She said she doesn’t want to be known as that video game voice acting girl and wants to stay away from them in the future. A statement that shouldn’t be respected.
@@shinobu37If she wants to be known for things other than video game adaptations that's her decision. You don't have to agree with her reason for avoiding these types of roles but there's no reason not to respect her decision. You can't expect actors to do what you want, and then when they don't, decide that they aren't allowed to do that. Getting upset about that is just stupid.
Fallout was fine but the technical team for Arcane deserves like everything under the sun tbh. The writing could have been better in season 2 but every frame was a goddamn painting and the animation was soo good.
Arcane's only flaw was that there was too little of it, some story bits deserved entire arcs, or at least separate episodes. Especially Cait's deep dive into dictatorship could at least be an episode instead of just a music clip Still, the story is great My only gripe with it is that League's lore has to follow Arcane, which was only great as a standalone
@@senatorpineapple8149 It's very clear the creators tried to shove 2 seasons worth of story into a single season. As a result, we got the rushed "mess" that it was. It was still good, but nowhere near as good as it could've been if the creators weren't so gungho about getting the story over and done with to focus on their next spinoff.
@ I definitely agree that they shoved too much into a single season, and it could have been much better had that not been the case, but in my opinion it’s a miracle that it’s still this good despite that fact. I think the thing is they relied a bit TOO much on show dont tell. For example, a common criticism is how Isha is never mentioned again after she dies, but the effects of her death manifest in Jinx instead, the depression and hair cutting and all that. But then after Ekko convinces her to fight with them, Isha’s LIFE manifests on Jinx, as the lair-ship is outfitted to be a memento to her memory. Other examples include the set up to Cait betraying Ambessa being shown through her reaction to Singed, and Vi and Caits sex scene being a reward for Cait acting against her desire for revenge. But when you do SO MUCH show don’t tell (even if it’s necessary because of the cramped nature of the season), the result is that the audience will understandably miss a lot important things that there shouldn’t be a chance of missing. I’ve been writing too much just watch Schnee’s recent vids on Arcane he explains some of how it’s still great, and if ur not convinced oh well different opinions lol, have a great one
@@TierHarribelI‘d say calling it a mess is not correct! It was still pretty good, just not as Good as season 1. If season 1 was an 10/10 Masterpiece, Season 2 was a Very good 8/10. season 1 just set an Insanely High Standard.
even if arcane season 2 had its flaws it was still an absolute 9/10 it seemed like it was a bit rushed but still it is just so fricking good and it developed on the characters even more and yeah i dont think it goes without saying but arcane season 1 is a 10 so in total its like a 9.5 for fallout its an amazing show aswell but i think its a 8/10. it should deserve to win any other year but maybe not this one still congrats to ella
Season 2 was still really good-better than most shows, honestly. The character development was still top-notch, especially Viktor’s story. It’s so interesting how a guy who just wanted perfection and to help humanity ends up becoming this messiah-like figure. Some parts felt a bit rushed,like the black rose part but it majority of the storylines were still very solid like the cait and ambessa thing was good or like the dictator arc seemed great but it seemed to have been cut short viktor's arc was great the alternate universe timeline(ekko and jayce). and i felt jinx and vi's family arc with vander mixed well into the finale The story did feel a bit fast-paced, probably because they couldn’t stretch it to three seasons due to budget issues. Yeah, it was a little chaotic, but we’ve seen that in other great shows. Breaking Bad’s last season, for example, felt very chaotic and the villains felt pretty rushed i felt only hatred for them nothing like tuco or gus. And while it leaned a bit into Marvel Phase 3 territory, it didn’t feel completely random. Season 1 already hinted at how dangerous Hextech could be, like it could destroy civilizations, so it didn’t come out of nowhere. a lot of details were also put which we can only find in 2nd or 3rd watch which makes the story seem even more firm The characters still made sense-they weren’t acting weird just for the sake of it. Everyone had great reasons to act the way they did. in my terms mid(5/10) is like a kny just in terms of story telling or 7/10 is like dandadan till now and i think arcane is still way above these 2
I think it was mainly due Arcane already winning at S1. So it was wiser to reward a new series for being amazing rather than just give it to the same thing
No, it was mainly because Arcane came out too late. 1st season won best adaptation of 2022 despite being released in 2021. They should've done the same thing here since a lot of people voted for Fallout before Arcane even finished.
@@AppleBaron imo, Arcane is a great show and Fallout is a better adaptation. why? i played fallout and LoL and i could tell LoL is very different from Arcane
Honestly, it feels like a hold-up. Fallout is decent, but it's not that good. It’s the kind of show you watch once and then forget most of it shortly after. In contrast, Arcane keeps people coming back, rewatching it constantly to catch the little details they missed the first time.
i was dissapointed when i didnt see perks and stuff like that but it makes sense why it won sequels have a harder time winning since they require you to watch what came before them (this happend to spider-man acrros the spider verse too) but im still upset af
I think Fallout gets a push because live action adaptions even when they're good usually don't capture the look or tone of the games but Fallout did. Arcane is the better show but it takes far less from it's source material and stands almost entirely on it's own.
But arcane would be a far worse show if it literally adapted 1 to 1 with the game. I don't a story about 5 character farming minions and grouping up to kill dragon and fight 5 other people every 5 min would be very appealing. I argue they took all the necessary stuff from league and made a fantastic series which is by all means a great adaptation. Arcane 1 wouldn't have beaten edgerunner last year if pure adaptation was main point of the award.
@oreoyo5639 I said "gets a push" the quality of the individual shows still comes into play. But Fallout gets extra points for this type of award for the adaptation quality not just show quality where as Arcane loses points as it literally didn't even need to use League to be as great as it is. Edgerunner just wasn't anywhere close to Arcane season 1.
i think sequels have a harder time winning since they require you to watch what came before them and considering arcane came at the end of the year not everyone can catch up (i think spider man across the spider verse didnt win for a simmillar reason)
@DR9Y I mean I disagree with that. Sequels get the advantage of a built in fanbase and critics will go in with a more positive attitude. Not to mention series usually grow if they're well received. Like at Breaking Bad. It almost got canceled the 1st 2 seasons. The problem is some people have this idea that if something has already won it's "not fair" for them to win again. Which is really dumb.
@@CoopHawke well in this context both do have a good amount of people who were going to watch because they played the games (fallout & LoL) so yeah you are kinda right, it probably boils down to the idea it something won already its "unfair" for them to win again (which i think is very stupid just as you said)
@@chainsaw8507 honestly I remember jackshit from Arcane S1. Only that the animation and soundtrack was good. I watched edgerunners right after and i was crying from the ending. Was the story actually any good in Arcane ?
How did they win last year then? Edgerunner definitely felt more like cyberpunk then arcane to league. You simply can't adapt a moba concept to a show if you want to make it good. Arcane did with what they could use from the league which makes it a great adaptation imo.
Can you stop parroting this same regarded opinion over and over? As the guy above me said, how can you say that Fallout adapts its game better than Arcane because of the gameplay if the original material of the two shows is so vastly different in terms of the genres, do you want a League of Legends adaptation to have a literal Summoner's Rift and two teams trying to destroy the enemy Nexus? How would you see a PvP game adaptation that captures the gameplay without being shit lmao
Opinions in this comment thread are so bad, if you want to judge fallout for yourself, please watch it. I liked both arcane s2 and fallout, why is everyone so ready to hate on something they didn't watch?
I agree, people should watch both before making a blanket statement. However, having watched and liked both, I think that Arcane S2 did deserve it over Fallout. Fallout was pretty good, but even with the pacing in S2 I think for it's execution and the overall storytelling it should've still won... Again! This is only my opinion!
I guess it depends on how you're judging it really. As an adaptation, I would say Fallout is more faithful to its games. It just feels like Fallout through-and-through. But as a standalone thing that just happens to be an adaptation, Arcane is clearly the superior product, but it doesn't really feel like the game in any way at all. They're both great, though. I'm just happy we're finally getting videogame adaptations that don't suck.
While Arcane was a masterpiece in every right, I understand why Fallout beat it for best adaptation. After all, when people recommend Arcane, their first sentence is usually "You should give Arcane a chance, it's not at all like the game"
This shocked me immensely. Like fallout was good but Arcane was fantastic. Then knuckles was also really good. I didnt think Fallout was coming close but it won somehow.
The project has a worse production value than season 1 but I disagree with it being worse. To me it’s so clear that everyone involved at every stage has refined their craft in such a crazy amount, giving a better product.
@@turtleturb3752 honestly fallout and arcane S2 are bad but people are not ready to hear that. People will clown on Halo and Witcher yet say Fallout is a masterpiece it literally comes down to Fallout and Arcane being superficially more pleasing because of the animation or having better actors. If Halo still had masterchief was still a r3tard but when he removed the helmet it was like walton goggins or karl urban instead of whatever boring no name they have now people would be saying it's the best show of the year.
@@moe5020huuuuh ? Arcane s2 is « bad » ? Did you smoke opium ? What ? It was « worst » that’s s1, but it’s better than almost all other shows. What is this stupid opinion
This is tough. Based on the show by itself i think Arcane is better specially it has 2 seasons and a more complete story however as an adaptation there's a really strong arguement for Fallout specially Arcane's story quality dipped between seasons. In my eyes both cam win for different reasons, I just hope Fallout can keep up or improve witht he following seasons to justify beating Arcane this year.
The think about fallout is that everything feels right,even when the dialogue feel quirky it only because thats the kind of dialogue for it.its a strong solid series
I honestly dont think s2 deserved an award. s1 for sure, but s2 messed up all the writing in so many places. Its still peak, but fallout was through and through good, why give two awards to the exact same series after they kinda uncook some of their first season cooking when you got new chef cooking a separate series that is also peak?
If this how good Fallout is, maybe it will blow my mind the same way as Arcane did, especially when I was never familiar with LoL lore. The great thing about Fallout so far is the cinematography. Beautiful, stunning and humongous.
- Arcane already won in S1 - keyword: video game ADAPTATION - Arcane didn't adapt League, it adapted the fking lore champions wiki. Real league players know Arcane is NOTHING like League. Fallout however captures the atmosphere of the games making it feel like you're actually playing the games
I think its more because the fallout show adapted the game and captured a lot of its feel. Whereas arcane adapted the lore of the game, but the gameplay itself is unadaptable so of course they didnt even try.
You know what? Fine. It finished like a few weeks before the Game Awards, season 1 already won the award, people haven’t had enough time to digest season 2 still, Fallout can have it this time.
It was obvious. Arcane S2 came out around the voting phase. Not everyone got to watch it yet, even I watched 2 weeks after it released because of busy schedule. But who cares? I bet it will still get more Annie and Oscar awards than Fallout.
Fallout was good and you can argue that it was a more faithful adaptation, but arcane is on a whole other level. 10 years from now, people will still be talking and thinking about this show.
Arcane S2 was not weaker till ep 7, they just did too much in 2 ep while they could have done a s3 in those last 3 episodes and it would have stayed a masterpiece from 1st season to the last.
Disappointed Arcane did not win... The raw emotions you felt for each character were too mind-blowing, and the music - just everything - was so fantastically futuristic and amazingly top of the charts stuff. We are definitely watching Arcane again 1st and 2nd season in the holiday season :D Arcane You Are Winners To Your Biggest Fans 🏆
like how everyone is saying fallout won because its a better adaptation of the game.... then cyberpunk edgerunners shoulda won against it, it was a better adaptation of the game then Arcane season 1. and u know what, a lot of people would have been okey with it, it was up there with arcane, cant say the same about fallout.
For this year Awards show IGN put soo much influence and rigged a lot of stuff, for example they put voting system for the GAME of the year but then screwed points from Wukong and made them lose the award, also they rated arcane 7/10 which is crazy cuz literaly every other platform rated arcane atleast 9, and IGN being that big influenced this aswell, also its not the first time The Game awards rigged some vottings this show is heavily influenced by western politics, they purposefully giving awards towards the best choice for the politics
Arcane is so far away from the games that I think it's completely okay to say it's not the best "adaptation". It's great but it's original work, script, and in a lot of ways even original characters and universe, but as far as a true adaptation of a game/series, Fallout landed the feeling much better
See fallout may be a better adaption than arcane for lol but not for some dumb reason that it’s not like the actual game it’s because the story fully contradicts points previously established instead of arcane adapting to lol the game adapted to arcane which makes my oppinion of its adaptation weird
No this is fair, the award was best adaptation and Fallout is a far better adaptation even though Arcane is better from a film standpoint. Fallout really felt like a Fallout game where you follow 3 different kinds of players: Lucy, Maximus and The Ghoul. Arcane is just based of the lore of LoL and isn’t actually anything like the game.
Personally, Fallout feels more like a game adaptation than Arcane, "best adaptation" doesn't mean best writing or visuals, pretty sure they have their own category. Fallout beats Arcane all day when it comes to "video game adaptation" as it stays faithful to the original source material like Ella Purnell said in her Fallout interviews, even the actors had to get exposure to the games to give them inspiration on the characters they act as, before you goobers come at my throat, Arcane is a masterpiece, the details, the visuals and the storytelling is amazing but it doesn't feel like a game adaptation, more of an original series based on a portion of lore from League of Legends.
As someone who has seen both shows and has zero knowledge of the games they were based off of, I thought Fallout was very good, but Arcane was leagues better. (No pun intended)
Fallout is really good, but Arcane is better, Arcane is f*cking phenomenal. I think the only reason fallout won is because it's live action and in the west that has a bigger audience and a greater foundation in the industry compared to animation
its rigged regardless, Arcane won last time it was out and wasnt rewarded again. critics also shafted black myth despite the numbers cause of the backlash critiques got.
Fallout wasn't all that imo. Don't get me wrong it was good. I liked the direction, the humour and music but as a whole it was a solid 7-8/10 show. The metrics and reviews don't particularly show anything extraordinary either. Arcane s2 had its fair share of problems for sure, but i feel like it was still at least an 8. Defiantly was the stronger season of television compared to fallout for me. But oh well
Arcane didnt win cuz s2 ruined what was basically perfect and fallout didnt have that so it was pretty obvious if it was just s1 arcane the shit wins hands down
Arcane is peak, but I wouldn't call it an adaptation of league of legends. It's better in every way. Fallout though is a great ADAPTATION but I still prefer arcane
Tbh, Arcane is a masterpiece but not a true adaptation to lol lore. It's basically writing the lol lore anew. Fallout on the other hand, is quite close to the original lore.
Wish people would stop glazing the fallout show, that garbage fire was absolutely fucking horrendous, even with the rushed nature of s2 it was still in a entirely different…league then the fallout show. It’s literally as bad as the halo show yet for some reason it gets praised, I swear people were drinking or high when they watched this shiw
Fallout is only ok imo, i watched few ep but stop. The adaptation however i can not say anything good about FO since its a bit on genetic side, like not much innovation so definitely a rob. Unless of couse if it about arcane being released too late then it would make more sense.
@tman0131 Very rushed ending. Characters are killed off in a very contrived manor. Very poor closure in general. It really felt like they significantly overplayed the scale, and they didn't know how to land the plane.
Also gatcha game get rekt by Baltro wich is funny and deserve or not depend of personal preference. Also I like black myth wukong but weird that they were nominated for best Voice acting.
@@jordanprater7233 And to me, Edgerunners is better then arcane. I atleast remember the Edgerunners story. Arcane story was mid at best. Animation and Sountrack was good though.
@ceshmate1953 you said at least to me, as if it was a fact. This is on you. If you prefer one story over another, that's fine but there's no reason to downplay arcane's story. Both story had their strengths and weaknesses.
@@ceshmate1953edge runner second half kinda fell off tbh but that's just a classic on most shows made by the studio trigger like kill la kill and darling in the franxx
Fallout was more consistent and paced better as adaptation to the Fallout games😮 when comparing it to season 2 of Arcane While Arcane had to retcon it's game's lore and needed more time to cook and complete it's arcs and to be honest, arcane season 2 needed an Act 4 at LEAST , as much I love Arcane, after the Honeymoon phase i can see flaws now It had to be said, so Arcane Losing was not out of the blue, but tbf Arcane has the best animations I had seen for Western Studios, Fortiche made masterful work I can give em that If i wete to rate the Shows Arcane season 1 is a 9.4 Fallout a 9.0 While Arcane Season 2 a 8.8 or 8.9
I don't understand duality here If ppl call frerien masterpiece in ( 26 ep) he is like it's too early And now he calls Arcane S1 with 12 ep masterpiece Also ppl who said frerien is masterpiece with 1 ep what do you smoke 😂
he said people that said frieren is a masterpiece after episode 1 are giving it the title too early, not to mention arcane episodes are twice the length bruh. Actually reaching lmao
Because with frieren season 1 they didn’t have any real finality in its conclusion. It’s very much the middle or maybe the start of the journey and therefore is hard to judge as a whole without that conclusion. But with only the 9 episodes in arcane season 1 they conclude the main emotional conflict of the season, being weather or not powder was going to be powder or jinx. It feels like a complete package that could have ended at s1 while frieren you need whatever is gonna happen in later seasons to judge how good s1 is. Idk if I phrased that well but that’s what I think
what is even this debate lmao 😂, take things as they are, for what they are. If that single season is a masterpiece than so be it, if something takes time to get good then whatever it can get good when it gets good. what a waste of time discussion
The difference is that Frieren takes a lot of time with slower worldbuilding while Arcane has 40-minute episodes where each minute is maximized to develop the plot. By the end of either season, Arcane has a much more complete and cohesive storyline than Frieren. This isn't even exclusive to Arcane. Lots of 1-cour anime like Edgerunners are jam-packed with stuff going so that the plot is more finished within 12 episodes. Frieren aims for a much grander storyline where 28 episodes doesn't even scratch the surface of the full plot.
Did it tho? Imo all the episodes up till like ep 7 was really good, a few of them being excellent even. The final two were the only ones that left a lot to be desired
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It’s still a win for Ella purnell since she’s in both ahah
You can't lose when you play both sides
She said she doesn’t want to be known as that video game voice acting girl and wants to stay away from them in the future. A statement that shouldn’t be respected.
@@shinobu37 what? when did she said that?
@ Recently in an interview I forgotten which one so I don’t have the source but search it up I just happen to scroll past it
@@shinobu37If she wants to be known for things other than video game adaptations that's her decision. You don't have to agree with her reason for avoiding these types of roles but there's no reason not to respect her decision. You can't expect actors to do what you want, and then when they don't, decide that they aren't allowed to do that. Getting upset about that is just stupid.
They give it award once and said "nah that to much credit for league"
Fallout was fine but the technical team for Arcane deserves like everything under the sun tbh. The writing could have been better in season 2 but every frame was a goddamn painting and the animation was soo good.
Don't worry, Arcane will sweep real rewards like it did with season 1.
but the story turns out to be shit after all the build up.
@@OtterlyGCould you please elaborate on why you think it’s shit? Serious question by the way.
Arcane's only flaw was that there was too little of it, some story bits deserved entire arcs, or at least separate episodes. Especially Cait's deep dive into dictatorship could at least be an episode instead of just a music clip
Still, the story is great
My only gripe with it is that League's lore has to follow Arcane, which was only great as a standalone
@@OiCrocothe whole Jayce ARC.
"everybody will vote for arcane, and because I'm not cringe, I'll vote for the second best - fallout"
good thing thats literally just you and on one else.
@@Stinkie80yet fallout won
None of them deserved it, but it's a popularity contest. both shows were awful and arcane in particular was butchered horribly.
@@Ganom-ng1zt nice bait eunuch
@Ganom, you literally have an Arcane profile picture??
Fallout was good but wasn't a generational masterpiece like arcane was
Arcane Season 1 was a masterpiece.
Arcane season 2 was a mess.
@@TierHarribelSeason two wasn’t a masterpiece like season one, but im curious why you think it’s a “mess”
@@senatorpineapple8149 It's very clear the creators tried to shove 2 seasons worth of story into a single season. As a result, we got the rushed "mess" that it was. It was still good, but nowhere near as good as it could've been if the creators weren't so gungho about getting the story over and done with to focus on their next spinoff.
@ I definitely agree that they shoved too much into a single season, and it could have been much better had that not been the case, but in my opinion it’s a miracle that it’s still this good despite that fact.
I think the thing is they relied a bit TOO much on show dont tell. For example, a common criticism is how Isha is never mentioned again after she dies, but the effects of her death manifest in Jinx instead, the depression and hair cutting and all that. But then after Ekko convinces her to fight with them, Isha’s LIFE manifests on Jinx, as the lair-ship is outfitted to be a memento to her memory. Other examples include the set up to Cait betraying Ambessa being shown through her reaction to Singed, and Vi and Caits sex scene being a reward for Cait acting against her desire for revenge.
But when you do SO MUCH show don’t tell (even if it’s necessary because of the cramped nature of the season), the result is that the audience will understandably miss a lot important things that there shouldn’t be a chance of missing.
I’ve been writing too much just watch Schnee’s recent vids on Arcane he explains some of how it’s still great, and if ur not convinced oh well different opinions lol, have a great one
@@TierHarribelI‘d say calling it a mess is not correct!
It was still pretty good, just not as Good as season 1.
If season 1 was an 10/10 Masterpiece, Season 2 was a Very good 8/10.
season 1 just set an Insanely High Standard.
even if arcane season 2 had its flaws it was still an absolute 9/10 it seemed like it was a bit rushed but still it is just so fricking good and it developed on the characters even more and yeah i dont think it goes without saying but arcane season 1 is a 10 so in total its like a 9.5 for fallout its an amazing show aswell but i think its a 8/10. it should deserve to win any other year but maybe not this one still congrats to ella
Season 2 is a 7/10 at best
@@wbthorpe34 yeah sure bud
@@cryoniczz7073 the greatness of season 1 is blinding you to the truth that season 2 was mid
Season 2 was still really good-better than most shows, honestly. The character development was still top-notch, especially Viktor’s story. It’s so interesting how a guy who just wanted perfection and to help humanity ends up becoming this messiah-like figure. Some parts felt a bit rushed,like the black rose part but it majority of the storylines were still very solid like the cait and ambessa thing was good or like the dictator arc seemed great but it seemed to have been cut short viktor's arc was great the alternate universe timeline(ekko and jayce). and i felt jinx and vi's family arc with vander mixed well into the finale
The story did feel a bit fast-paced, probably because they couldn’t stretch it to three seasons due to budget issues. Yeah, it was a little chaotic, but we’ve seen that in other great shows. Breaking Bad’s last season, for example, felt very chaotic and the villains felt pretty rushed i felt only hatred for them nothing like tuco or gus. And while it leaned a bit into Marvel Phase 3 territory, it didn’t feel completely random. Season 1 already hinted at how dangerous Hextech could be, like it could destroy civilizations, so it didn’t come out of nowhere. a lot of details were also put which we can only find in 2nd or 3rd watch which makes the story seem even more firm
The characters still made sense-they weren’t acting weird just for the sake of it. Everyone had great reasons to act the way they did. in my terms mid(5/10) is like a kny just in terms of story telling or 7/10 is like dandadan till now and i think arcane is still way above these 2
You are incredibly cringe for saying that gosh@@wbthorpe34
I think it was mainly due Arcane already winning at S1. So it was wiser to reward a new series for being amazing rather than just give it to the same thing
That's not how awards work dude if it's better it's better
what is this logic
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No, it was mainly because Arcane came out too late. 1st season won best adaptation of 2022 despite being released in 2021. They should've done the same thing here since a lot of people voted for Fallout before Arcane even finished.
@@AppleBaron imo, Arcane is a great show and Fallout is a better adaptation. why? i played fallout and LoL and i could tell LoL is very different from Arcane
Honestly, it feels like a hold-up. Fallout is decent, but it's not that good. It’s the kind of show you watch once and then forget most of it shortly after. In contrast, Arcane keeps people coming back, rewatching it constantly to catch the little details they missed the first time.
Yep, so much re-play value
i was dissapointed when i didnt see perks and stuff like that but it makes sense why it won sequels have a harder time winning since they require you to watch what came before them (this happend to spider-man acrros the spider verse too) but im still upset af
The thumbnail would have made sense if League didnt win the other 3 esport category 😂
I think Fallout gets a push because live action adaptions even when they're good usually don't capture the look or tone of the games but Fallout did. Arcane is the better show but it takes far less from it's source material and stands almost entirely on it's own.
But arcane would be a far worse show if it literally adapted 1 to 1 with the game. I don't a story about 5 character farming minions and grouping up to kill dragon and fight 5 other people every 5 min would be very appealing. I argue they took all the necessary stuff from league and made a fantastic series which is by all means a great adaptation. Arcane 1 wouldn't have beaten edgerunner last year if pure adaptation was main point of the award.
@oreoyo5639 I said "gets a push" the quality of the individual shows still comes into play. But Fallout gets extra points for this type of award for the adaptation quality not just show quality where as Arcane loses points as it literally didn't even need to use League to be as great as it is. Edgerunner just wasn't anywhere close to Arcane season 1.
i think sequels have a harder time winning since they require you to watch what came before them and considering arcane came at the end of the year not everyone can catch up (i think spider man across the spider verse didnt win for a simmillar reason)
@DR9Y I mean I disagree with that. Sequels get the advantage of a built in fanbase and critics will go in with a more positive attitude. Not to mention series usually grow if they're well received. Like at Breaking Bad. It almost got canceled the 1st 2 seasons. The problem is some people have this idea that if something has already won it's "not fair" for them to win again. Which is really dumb.
@@CoopHawke well in this context both do have a good amount of people who were going to watch because they played the games (fallout & LoL) so yeah you are kinda right, it probably boils down to the idea it something won already its "unfair" for them to win again (which i think is very stupid just as you said)
Maybe I'll watch fallout this weekend
It’s not bad…really gory and def deserves the MA rating. I liked it but not as much as TLOU or Arcane
Lower your expectations
Not as good as Arcane season 1, but better than Arcane season 2
@@chainsaw8507 honestly I remember jackshit from Arcane S1. Only that the animation and soundtrack was good. I watched edgerunners right after and i was crying from the ending.
Was the story actually any good in Arcane ?
Don’t forget that that the journalist holds an overwhelming majority of voting power
its for best adaptation not best game tv series, i think fallout felt more like fallout that arcane felt like league of legends
How did they win last year then? Edgerunner definitely felt more like cyberpunk then arcane to league. You simply can't adapt a moba concept to a show if you want to make it good. Arcane did with what they could use from the league which makes it a great adaptation imo.
Can you stop parroting this same regarded opinion over and over? As the guy above me said, how can you say that Fallout adapts its game better than Arcane because of the gameplay if the original material of the two shows is so vastly different in terms of the genres, do you want a League of Legends adaptation to have a literal Summoner's Rift and two teams trying to destroy the enemy Nexus? How would you see a PvP game adaptation that captures the gameplay without being shit lmao
Which is a good thing. We don't want Jinx screaming racial slurs in team chat.
@@michuumichowskithat's the thing. It would be shit lmaooo
@@michuumichowskisaying to not parrot the same thing whilst copying what the other guy said is crazy
Opinions in this comment thread are so bad, if you want to judge fallout for yourself, please watch it. I liked both arcane s2 and fallout, why is everyone so ready to hate on something they didn't watch?
im fuckin saying.
I agree, people should watch both before making a blanket statement. However, having watched and liked both, I think that Arcane S2 did deserve it over Fallout. Fallout was pretty good, but even with the pacing in S2 I think for it's execution and the overall storytelling it should've still won... Again! This is only my opinion!
Sometimes the wins feel really biased due to stuff like this won already or it has a big presence already. Anyway Arcane is a masterpiece
I guess it depends on how you're judging it really. As an adaptation, I would say Fallout is more faithful to its games. It just feels like Fallout through-and-through. But as a standalone thing that just happens to be an adaptation, Arcane is clearly the superior product, but it doesn't really feel like the game in any way at all.
They're both great, though. I'm just happy we're finally getting videogame adaptations that don't suck.
While Arcane was a masterpiece in every right, I understand why Fallout beat it for best adaptation. After all, when people recommend Arcane, their first sentence is usually "You should give Arcane a chance, it's not at all like the game"
he prob saw it after this but league got a dub sweeping the esports category faker, t1 & league winning. so its a 3/4
T1... 🙄
This shocked me immensely. Like fallout was good but Arcane was fantastic. Then knuckles was also really good. I didnt think Fallout was coming close but it won somehow.
Wait he said arcane season 2 has weaker animation than season 1?
seems to be the general consensus
@@lloydlim1055 That isn't the general consensus...
The project has a worse production value than season 1 but I disagree with it being worse. To me it’s so clear that everyone involved at every stage has refined their craft in such a crazy amount, giving a better product.
@@lloydlim1055 not a single person has said that, so no it isnt.
@@zap7737 well clearly you havent been lookimg, that opinion exist.
Being live action probably a big point too
Arcane win S1 so...
And deservedly so, in my mind. S2 was a hot mess, even without comparing it to S1
@@turtleturb3752 honestly fallout and arcane S2 are bad but people are not ready to hear that. People will clown on Halo and Witcher yet say Fallout is a masterpiece it literally comes down to Fallout and Arcane being superficially more pleasing because of the animation or having better actors. If Halo still had masterchief was still a r3tard but when he removed the helmet it was like walton goggins or karl urban instead of whatever boring no name they have now people would be saying it's the best show of the year.
@@moe5020huuuuh ? Arcane s2 is « bad » ? Did you smoke opium ? What ? It was « worst » that’s s1, but it’s better than almost all other shows. What is this stupid opinion
@@moe5020 crazy ragebait lmao
@@xxjazzzminexx I'm sorry you had to hear it you weren't ready for the truth.
This is tough. Based on the show by itself i think Arcane is better specially it has 2 seasons and a more complete story however as an adaptation there's a really strong arguement for Fallout specially Arcane's story quality dipped between seasons. In my eyes both cam win for different reasons, I just hope Fallout can keep up or improve witht he following seasons to justify beating Arcane this year.
Fallout did a great job since for the most part didn't ruin any of the lore from the games. Probably the best live action game adaptation
The think about fallout is that everything feels right,even when the dialogue feel quirky it only because thats the kind of dialogue for it.its a strong solid series
I honestly dont think s2 deserved an award. s1 for sure, but s2 messed up all the writing in so many places.
Its still peak, but fallout was through and through good, why give two awards to the exact same series after they kinda uncook some of their first season cooking when you got new chef cooking a separate series that is also peak?
in terms of best adaptation fall out deserve the W
If this how good Fallout is, maybe it will blow my mind the same way as Arcane did, especially when I was never familiar with LoL lore.
The great thing about Fallout so far is the cinematography. Beautiful, stunning and humongous.
fallout was so goood too though
- Arcane already won in S1
- keyword: video game ADAPTATION
- Arcane didn't adapt League, it adapted the fking lore champions wiki. Real league players know Arcane is NOTHING like League. Fallout however captures the atmosphere of the games making it feel like you're actually playing the games
Well if that's the criteria then arcane doesn't deserve to win in S1.
then cyberpunk edgerunners shoulda won last year.
Honestly its really a good year for league
Cap.. We got robbed.. WHAT?!?!!?
no you didnt
The fallout is more of a adaption than arcane imo. Arcane is way more orginal content than fallout
short answer: It's live action and arcane won last time
And that's why you don't hold ceremonies like this in freaking December, so things that came out later in the year have a chance of winning.
I think its more because the fallout show adapted the game and captured a lot of its feel. Whereas arcane adapted the lore of the game, but the gameplay itself is unadaptable so of course they didnt even try.
You know what? Fine. It finished like a few weeks before the Game Awards, season 1 already won the award, people haven’t had enough time to digest season 2 still, Fallout can have it this time.
The people voting for fallout were very Joey pilled
It was obvious. Arcane S2 came out around the voting phase. Not everyone got to watch it yet, even I watched 2 weeks after it released because of busy schedule. But who cares? I bet it will still get more Annie and Oscar awards than Fallout.
Fallout was a great show. Arcane was fucking CINEMA.
Fallout was good and you can argue that it was a more faithful adaptation, but arcane is on a whole other level. 10 years from now, people will still be talking and thinking about this show.
Fallout is definitely better than Arcane s2. The writing for the final season was genuinely atrocious compared to its first season.
Arcane S2 was not weaker till ep 7, they just did too much in 2 ep while they could have done a s3 in those last 3 episodes and it would have stayed a masterpiece from 1st season to the last.
Fallout was a 7/10 at best
Fallout has more mass appeal. Plenty of people still refuse to engage with animated shows.
Disappointed Arcane did not win... The raw emotions you felt for each character were too mind-blowing, and the music - just everything - was so fantastically futuristic and amazingly top of the charts stuff. We are definitely watching Arcane again 1st and 2nd season in the holiday season :D Arcane You Are Winners To Your Biggest Fans 🏆
my girl win thats mather❤❤❤
Both were great but I think fallout definitely got more casual watchers than arcane.
like how everyone is saying fallout won because its a better adaptation of the game.... then cyberpunk edgerunners shoulda won against it, it was a better adaptation of the game then Arcane season 1.
and u know what, a lot of people would have been okey with it, it was up there with arcane, cant say the same about fallout.
For this year Awards show IGN put soo much influence and rigged a lot of stuff, for example they put voting system for the GAME of the year but then screwed points from Wukong and made them lose the award, also they rated arcane 7/10 which is crazy cuz literaly every other platform rated arcane atleast 9, and IGN being that big influenced this aswell, also its not the first time The Game awards rigged some vottings this show is heavily influenced by western politics, they purposefully giving awards towards the best choice for the politics
Arcane is so far away from the games that I think it's completely okay to say it's not the best "adaptation". It's great but it's original work, script, and in a lot of ways even original characters and universe, but as far as a true adaptation of a game/series, Fallout landed the feeling much better
See fallout may be a better adaption than arcane for lol but not for some dumb reason that it’s not like the actual game it’s because the story fully contradicts points previously established instead of arcane adapting to lol the game adapted to arcane which makes my oppinion of its adaptation weird
No this is fair, the award was best adaptation and Fallout is a far better adaptation even though Arcane is better from a film standpoint. Fallout really felt like a Fallout game where you follow 3 different kinds of players: Lucy, Maximus and The Ghoul. Arcane is just based of the lore of LoL and isn’t actually anything like the game.
Arcane way better than fallout.
but win is a win for my girl
Make sense if we talk about adaptation arcane is a better story but a worse adaptation
Sweeping in esports is enough league tbh 🎉
Same
Personally, Fallout feels more like a game adaptation than Arcane, "best adaptation" doesn't mean best writing or visuals, pretty sure they have their own category. Fallout beats Arcane all day when it comes to "video game adaptation" as it stays faithful to the original source material like Ella Purnell said in her Fallout interviews, even the actors had to get exposure to the games to give them inspiration on the characters they act as, before you goobers come at my throat, Arcane is a masterpiece, the details, the visuals and the storytelling is amazing but it doesn't feel like a game adaptation, more of an original series based on a portion of lore from League of Legends.
Biggest L ever. Arcane is insane they are just disrespecting it
your comment is dumb and you should feel dumb for commenting it
Nah arcane is disrespecting League of Legends
Nah. Fallout > arcane
Arcane season 2 just wasn't as good as season 1. Definitely think Fallout was better if we're only going off season 2 of Arcane
As someone who has seen both shows and has zero knowledge of the games they were based off of, I thought Fallout was very good, but Arcane was leagues better. (No pun intended)
Wow i learned that fallout might be good. Who knew
Fallout is really good, but Arcane is better, Arcane is f*cking phenomenal. I think the only reason fallout won is because it's live action and in the west that has a bigger audience and a greater foundation in the industry compared to animation
I was so happy XD just cause it's league
I think this is fine and we’re overreacting too much to it
its rigged regardless, Arcane won last time it was out and wasnt rewarded again. critics also shafted black myth despite the numbers cause of the backlash critiques got.
Fallout wasn't all that imo. Don't get me wrong it was good. I liked the direction, the humour and music but as a whole it was a solid 7-8/10 show. The metrics and reviews don't particularly show anything extraordinary either.
Arcane s2 had its fair share of problems for sure, but i feel like it was still at least an 8. Defiantly was the stronger season of television compared to fallout for me. But oh well
I play league so I already lost at life
Arcane didnt win cuz s2 ruined what was basically perfect and fallout didnt have that so it was pretty obvious if it was just s1 arcane the shit wins hands down
Arcane is peak, but I wouldn't call it an adaptation of league of legends. It's better in every way. Fallout though is a great ADAPTATION but I still prefer arcane
At least Jinx win something 😭
Tbh, Arcane is a masterpiece but not a true adaptation to lol lore. It's basically writing the lol lore anew. Fallout on the other hand, is quite close to the original lore.
Season 2 was not at all weaker
Edgerunners is not an anime
Edgerunners is a Hiroyuki imaishi-line trigger project. You literally can’t get more ‘anime’ than that
Wish people would stop glazing the fallout show, that garbage fire was absolutely fucking horrendous, even with the rushed nature of s2 it was still in a entirely different…league then the fallout show.
It’s literally as bad as the halo show yet for some reason it gets praised, I swear people were drinking or high when they watched this shiw
I mean Fallout was good, but it was no Arcane.
Fallout is only ok imo, i watched few ep but stop.
The adaptation however i can not say anything good about FO since its a bit on genetic side, like not much innovation so definitely a rob. Unless of couse if it about arcane being released too late then it would make more sense.
Arcane is a great show, but an okay adaptation. Fallout is a great show and a great adaptation.
Fallout is a good show but not great arcane even with its flaws is phenomenal.
@Pelican07.23 incorrect.
I still think arcane s2 was a masterpiece. Just not as good as s1. The ending was amazing. Sad, but amazing.
Couldn't watch Fallout past 2 episodes - not for me (felt like it was more for the Fallout fans), though season 2 of Arcane was weaker than the first.
Arcane had to win it doesn't make sense I'm sorry
fallout was good, it was just nowhere near arcane in terms everything, so am genuinely surprised
Fallout was more satisfying than *S2* Arcane. S1 Arcane clears easily, but we aren't talking about S1
This was disgusting ngl
The ending fucked the show
I thought it was fitting (I mean Ekko was a little too OP but he also the boy savior). Why did u think it ruined the show?
@@tman0131 giga rushed development, they frickin offscreened Jinx and Ekko talk for what?
@tman0131 Very rushed ending. Characters are killed off in a very contrived manor. Very poor closure in general. It really felt like they significantly overplayed the scale, and they didn't know how to land the plane.
I liked Arcane S2 a lot but Fallout deserved it.
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@@blackhole5803🤏
I agree. Arcane needed an extra episode for season 2 for me personally
@@blackhole5803👍
I have over 300 hours in fallout games and the show doesn't deserve sht, it's above average, Arcane is on another league
I guess there still a stigma against animation
Aracane season 1 won when it came out and won so many other awards. 9 Emmys i think?
Yea there def still is…wait a few years until the next gen takes over and I wouldn’t be surprised if each category had an anime on there
Season 2 is not as good as season 1
lol
No, season 1 won an award and it deserved it. Season 2 was still good, but not THAT good. Fallout was the best choice
Not at all, season 2 was mid, fallout was way better overall
I mean league eated all the award in esport category
Metaphor and arcane robbed
Also gatcha game get rekt by Baltro wich is funny and deserve or not depend of personal preference.
Also I like black myth wukong but weird that they were nominated for best Voice acting.
An L for Grant is a W for the world.
NGL fallout deserved
To anyone angry about Arcane not winning. Watch Fallout and you gonna understand why it won
I did, I really enjoyed fallout but not more than arcane… not even close
fallout is great but arcane s just the most popular animated TV show right now for a reason.
@@jordanprater7233 And to me, Edgerunners is better then arcane. I atleast remember the Edgerunners story. Arcane story was mid at best. Animation and Sountrack was good though.
@ceshmate1953 you said at least to me, as if it was a fact. This is on you. If you prefer one story over another, that's fine but there's no reason to downplay arcane's story. Both story had their strengths and weaknesses.
@@ceshmate1953edge runner second half kinda fell off tbh but that's just a classic on most shows made by the studio trigger like kill la kill and darling in the franxx
arcane season 2 was much much worse than 1st season. episode 8 and 9 where disappointing.
bruh league won like three (best esports, best player, best esports org)
I genuinely thought the fallout show was trash so it winning stung but Ella Purnell is the real winner
Yeah it was pretty mid
I love arcane but season 1 was better than season 2 and fallout was a special show seriously do yourself a favor and go watch it
Fallout was more consistent and paced better as adaptation to the Fallout games😮 when comparing it to season 2 of Arcane
While Arcane had to retcon it's game's lore and needed more time to cook and complete it's arcs and to be honest, arcane season 2 needed an Act 4 at LEAST , as much I love Arcane, after the Honeymoon phase i can see flaws now
It had to be said, so Arcane Losing was not out of the blue, but tbf Arcane has the best animations I had seen for Western Studios, Fortiche made masterful work I can give em that
If i wete to rate the Shows
Arcane season 1 is a 9.4
Fallout a 9.0
While Arcane Season 2 a 8.8 or 8.9
Arcane even at its worse still has better writing than fallout.
I don't understand duality here
If ppl call frerien masterpiece in ( 26 ep) he is like it's too early
And now he calls Arcane S1 with 12 ep masterpiece
Also ppl who said frerien is masterpiece with 1 ep what do you smoke 😂
he said people that said frieren is a masterpiece after episode 1 are giving it the title too early, not to mention arcane episodes are twice the length bruh. Actually reaching lmao
Because with frieren season 1 they didn’t have any real finality in its conclusion. It’s very much the middle or maybe the start of the journey and therefore is hard to judge as a whole without that conclusion. But with only the 9 episodes in arcane season 1 they conclude the main emotional conflict of the season, being weather or not powder was going to be powder or jinx. It feels like a complete package that could have ended at s1 while frieren you need whatever is gonna happen in later seasons to judge how good s1 is. Idk if I phrased that well but that’s what I think
what is even this debate lmao 😂, take things as they are, for what they are. If that single season is a masterpiece than so be it, if something takes time to get good then whatever it can get good when it gets good. what a waste of time discussion
The difference is that Frieren takes a lot of time with slower worldbuilding while Arcane has 40-minute episodes where each minute is maximized to develop the plot. By the end of either season, Arcane has a much more complete and cohesive storyline than Frieren.
This isn't even exclusive to Arcane. Lots of 1-cour anime like Edgerunners are jam-packed with stuff going so that the plot is more finished within 12 episodes. Frieren aims for a much grander storyline where 28 episodes doesn't even scratch the surface of the full plot.
ongoing vs finished what do you smoke
To be fair, Fallout was amazing all the way through. Arcane fell off after the midway point.
Did it tho? Imo all the episodes up till like ep 7 was really good, a few of them being excellent even. The final two were the only ones that left a lot to be desired
Silco alone clears the fallout cast
this was for arcane S2 ie the bad season with no silco and MCU jinx