In California in the 70’s and 80’s there were many single drive axle trucks hauling containers that had similar setups to give them another axle. Thanks and take care.
Thank you for making this video - I came across it accidently, but our company is trying to make one of these to add a 5th axle to a heavy haul tractor, and this helps. We are planning to use a steerable axle, which I think should help a lot with maneuverability, would you think this to be correct? We are in Missouri, where a quad grouping will be permitted for as much as 89,600 lbs, so adding another axle seems to be the right choice vs. a jeep, which would be a horrible pain to maneuver into our jobsites in tight urban areas.
Definitely go with steerable. Just having a fixed tridem really decreases my steering ability especially in slippery conditions. I can’t imagine a fixed quad. I find it neat (a pain in the ass but neat) to see the different combinations being used in different areas.
Using a double drop, does the spare axle really gain you much weight since you can’t have the 5th wheel plate far enough forward for the best distribution?
Good question. Personally I’m not a fan of this configuration but sometimes we gotta do what we gotta do. With the 5th wheel all the way back you will really load the drives and we can easily permit 66,000 on 3 axles. We will of coarse be light on the steering but you sacrifice a few thousand pounds up front to gain 22,000 in the back. Just be extra cautious in slippery conditions because it won’t steer worth a shit!
I am not sure (been out of this business for over 20 years) but I do believe that in Europe pin on axles on the truck are illegal. At least I have never come across them. Heard of them but never seen them in situ.
Yeah… I wish we could. Eastern Canada likes to be so different and it’s hard to get permits on tridrives. We have one tridrive and the dispatchers hate it. I don’t make the rules. Thanks for watching 😊
@@luckybananaheavyhaul3407 after 47 yrs in the business it was always problematic operating thru different province's and states. Great videos...take care.
Thanks for watching 😊 5 years at Bellemare. It’s a great company if you like diversity. We have a lot of different equipment. 5 years and still learning :)
@@luckybananaheavyhaul3407 I was watching the sleeves on that safety hoodie you had on and made sure there weren’t any grease or dirt marks when you were pinning and hooking air and electric lines that there weren’t any stains nice job !
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In California in the 70’s and 80’s there were many single drive axle trucks hauling containers that had similar setups to give them another axle. Thanks and take care.
Oh kool. I did not know that! Thanks for watching 😊
This was fantastic. Exactly what I was hoping for when I messaged you!!! Thank you very much!
Happy you enjoyed it! Thanks for following 😊
Didn't know you could pin on another axle. Thanks for sharing.
I love those training videos! Really informative. Thank you!
That was really cool never seen that before
I drove for a small outfit that used the same style like Roadway uses, it had pins that went in the frame towards the cab.
It definitely makes the truck versatile. Thanks for watching 😊
Very nice video lb 👍great job with all your videos 👍thanks for making them 👍
Thanks for the encouragement! 😊 Cheers
Your welcome lb 👍
Thank you for making this video - I came across it accidently, but our company is trying to make one of these to add a 5th axle to a heavy haul tractor, and this helps. We are planning to use a steerable axle, which I think should help a lot with maneuverability, would you think this to be correct? We are in Missouri, where a quad grouping will be permitted for as much as 89,600 lbs, so adding another axle seems to be the right choice vs. a jeep, which would be a horrible pain to maneuver into our jobsites in tight urban areas.
Definitely go with steerable. Just having a fixed tridem really decreases my steering ability especially in slippery conditions. I can’t imagine a fixed quad.
I find it neat (a pain in the ass but neat) to see the different combinations being used in different areas.
Using a double drop, does the spare axle really gain you much weight since you can’t have the 5th wheel plate far enough forward for the best distribution?
Good question. Personally I’m not a fan of this configuration but sometimes we gotta do what we gotta do. With the 5th wheel all the way back you will really load the drives and we can easily permit 66,000 on 3 axles. We will of coarse be light on the steering but you sacrifice a few thousand pounds up front to gain 22,000 in the back. Just be extra cautious in slippery conditions because it won’t steer worth a shit!
I am not sure (been out of this business for over 20 years) but I do believe that in Europe pin on axles on the truck are illegal. At least I have never come across them. Heard of them but never seen them in situ.
They are illegal in western Canada also. Different provinces have different regulations
How do you make left or right turns when you're loaded ?. Do you drop the air in the pin-on axle before making the turns?
No it still turns. You just need to be careful in slippery conditions.
Interesting...out here in BC we just use tri-drive tractors.
Yeah… I wish we could. Eastern Canada likes to be so different and it’s hard to get permits on tridrives. We have one tridrive and the dispatchers hate it. I don’t make the rules.
Thanks for watching 😊
@@luckybananaheavyhaul3407 after 47 yrs in the business it was always problematic operating thru different province's and states. Great videos...take care.
That’s one I never seen before! Thanks for sharing!
How long have you been with your company?
Thanks for watching 😊
5 years at Bellemare. It’s a great company if you like diversity. We have a lot of different equipment. 5 years and still learning :)
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Who makes them been looking for one
These are home made
Doug I see that third axle has smaller tires, how much weight can be put on that axle?
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@@luckybananaheavyhaul3407 I was watching the sleeves on that safety hoodie you had on and made sure there weren’t any grease or dirt marks when you were pinning and hooking air and electric lines that there weren’t any stains nice job !
Hahaha. I had a brand new hoodie for the video but they don’t stay new very long!
My dad use to say, the only thing you can do with gloves on is piss your pants.
Who makes those pin on axles?
Ours are home made at our shop. I’m not sure if there are commercial versions out there.
Stearing is seriously comprimised, and so is safety when hauling such (over)weights. All in all this is not a good solution but a 'dirty trick'.
Agreed… but companies get away with it so they’re going to keep doing it.