Honestly, for someone who has never even heard of FFV before, the most unhinged line to them must be "I have to return to the first meteor, but I need to restock on bears"
@@Malconchu but in order to keep whatever you stole, don’t you need to wait until he ran out of MP, otherwise he restarts the fight because you didn’t use magic? …And it takes 16 hours for him to run out of MP for you to have IIRC a 5% chance to steal the rare item?
@@MalachiLper If you bring two characters in, you can use the mage masher to get Silence on Omniscient. It only lasts for like 2 seconds, so you need to have the other character queued up to swing the Thief Knife (or steal) before Silence wears off. Rinse and repeat until you steal something, and if it isn't the gourd, you poke Omniscient to make him cast Reset for you :P I think the PR doesn't let you bounce the Mage Masher's Silence procs off your own reflect anymore? But you could in previous versions.
I mean, you aren’t throwing things - you are controlling them like circus people do, with whips (which is a design decision phased out after Gen 1), so there is no way they would go after FFV. World of Final Fantasy may be affected because of the catching of mirages.
Never mess with the Beastmaster for they have the most powerful weapon at their disposal.....Bearga. Tinkle Tinkle Little Bell, Geomancer will be swell. Hopefully all things go well, or else things will go to hell.
I been watching and rewatching the FFV and Dark Souls videos the last couple weeks. I been stuck in the hospital for the last 3 weeks. Watching your vids have been keeping me sane. Thanks man!
Thank you for putting out another one before I go to basic training. Really enjoying the series and didn't think I'd be catching another episode before I leave tomorrow
I’ve played through FFV like 6 times and had absolutely no idea about that Kornago item. I love that these games can still surprise me with random nonsense like that lol. Awesome video!
Beastmaster feels like a proof-of-concept rather than a Job. Like, if you just described it to me its mechanic sounds pretty cool for a JRPG character, but when you actually play it it just becomes a weaker Blue Mage with extra obnoxious steps.
I wonder, now that Beastmaster is confirmed to come to FFXIV, how good is it going to be or will it be far worse Blue Mage? Honestly, it is funny how there are two classes, Ninja and Beastmaster, that are worse versions of other classes, Samurai and Blue Mage, respectively. At least Ninja is fleshed out enough to have one unique thing. Very literally, Beastmaster exists to get the last few moves of Blue Mage and that’s it.
@@iantaakalla8180 it might be similar to how it was handled in Octopath Traveler 2. You can capture up to 6 monsters and use them however many times you want, but they have MP costs and if you want to capture a different enemy, you need to release something you already caught. It even had a limit break in which you could summon multiple monsters if you had the MP for it, and if you played your cards right, it could straight up win boss fights in 1 or 2 turns.
@@iantaakalla8180 I see two ways they could go about it: A: Return of the pet class. Basically akin to how Summoners used to work and much like WoW hunters. B: Become the beast. Like the Morpher in FFTA, which was closely tied to the Beastmaster in that game (and basically the only point of capturing beasts with them in the first place) Either way, collecting a large variety of beasts will likely be central to the class much like with Blue Mage spells. As for Ninja, I'd say he's more like a better Thief really. They're both speedy, have similar weapon options, both have a dedicated Flee command and a support skill to manipulate encounters in their favor.
@@MalachiLperBeast Master along with jobs such as Berserker and Red Mage are the reasons why FF5 are the game would most like to see remastered with some of the evolutions the jobs have gotten over the years.
@@twelfthknight it was their first attempt at Beast Master, and they weren’t balancing jobs to be competitive with one another. Beast Master is a continuation of Blue Mage - a lot of blue spells require Control. If you look at blue, catch, and control as part of the same game mechanic, there’s a considerable amount of forethought put into what is available and when. It is not a coincidence that Beast Master can single-handedly defeat and capture shield dragons, or that it provides a final boss attack that a Blue Mage can’t learn.
Fan Wikis are the reason I'm glad GameFAQs still exists. Back in my day you had to actually wait for someone else to finish the game and take the time to write out and post a full guide. Now get off my lawn.
@Xenobears You enjoy your occasional magazines that might showcase the game you want to play with half-baked tips and tricks on seeing Samus in the buff or warping straight to world 8. I'll happily enjoy my 35 12pt-font pages of monster stats and poorly made ASCII art maps and header. The future is now old man! Uhhh... 25ish years ago...
Back in my day, we collected physical game guides from Brady Games 😂 they came with lots of greaat concept art, trivia and the like. I miss those things
I think making beastmasters into a type of blue mage would work. As if you catch a monster once, you release it, and then can "recharge" this monster by using a tent Or you can make monsters use up an item, but that would basically turn them into a Catmancer from Bravely Second, lol
I like the idea of Beastmasters being allowed to capture multiples of monsters to build up spell uses as seen in earlier FF titles. Say, if you catch 3 Grizzlies, you have 3 uses of Grizzly available, but are also able to catch other monsters for other spells. That way, you still keep them capture dependent to keep the job's flavor into the endgame but make them actually able to do things beyond a single use each battle. Granted, some abilities might need to be tweaked to account for crazy people catching 99 of a creature, but FF5 already plays fast and loose with how broken some things are. At the very least, the dedium of capture would then be rewarded with more than the current single use one trick pony.
I love how every improvement you can make to Beastmaster has been made in other jobs here or in Bravely Default, meaning Beastmaster was screwed unless Blue Mages were not introduced in FF5.
The grind was real in this challenge. The magical beast types came in way more handy than expected. And the Neo Exdeath win at the end was a real butt clencher and the ultimate clutch.
I’ve been enjoying these challenges. Been thinking of doing a fiesta job run on FFV so hopefully those videos will give me knowledge on how to make the run as fun and not at all painful and long.
You showed me some of the appeal of a lot of classes! Unfortunately Beastmaster definitely doesn't have enough. Because of this series I gave Final Fantasy 5 another shot and tried out a bunch of things you didn't even covered yet. Having a lot of fun so far. Geomancer' Gaia is a great supplemental ability for other jobs. Free magic! I imagine it's kinda weak on its own though...
This is a true story: I was looking for a Blaze xp farm for bedrock Minecraft to build on a server with my brother and I see this video and ditch him. He’s fine but this video is more important than Minecraft.
I haven't used much of Beastmaster, but some of the guides I've read mention the power of "Strong Attack." I'm glad you went for it, them's beeg nombers. "You know what I'm Dune 2 that sandworm" XD "This sounds like a job for breath wing." No! "Let's just catch 4 Zus" Nooo! I've brought !Geomancy into this fight I _know_ what coming D: Bearmaster! :) Interesting, I think Blaze is percentage just like Breath Wing. Wasn't expecting anything to survive 4 of them, but that's extremely convenient. Ah, yeah. Enemy attacks are based on their stats. I guess Shield Dragons have poop magic attack. Gilgamesh: "I brought a sidekick!" Beastmaster squad: "You brought _us_ a sidekick!" I'm not sure what could possibly work against all the crystals, but I'm not _too_ surprised Death wasn't it. :( Beastmaster sure made taking down ExDeath a _breeze._ :P I'm on the edge of my seat awaiting gun puns with these bullettes. "Empty the chamber" "Firing off every round" etc Ugh, I can't remember why I cared about those unknowns, but I feel your pain trying to find the right version of the right kind. I'm not sure I've ever cared about the Beast Killer whip, what with the Flame Whip right there. Looking forward to surprise big damage. Oh boy, carrying Float through the whole rift without using a tent is sure something. Level 47! That says everything about Beastmaster taking forever. Haha, oops all Magic Beasts indeed! :D After a couple of freebies, he's back to spouting off White Holes again D: Wow, that could hardly have been closer! Way to pull through Krile! This is trivia rather than strategy, for reasons you will understand better than anyone, but there's an enemy which !Releases Evil Eye. You can potentially petrify the Almagest part with it. I was brainstorming improved !Catch mechanics while watching, and I think I got a decent one. What if !Catch was a status like !Control? You have to commit a character to maintaining it, but if the enemy passes the hp threshold (or dies) while under the effect they get caught automagically. This would make catching monsters fit into the flow of battle instead of the *core mechanic* of Beastmaster requiring you to play a completely different game on top of the regular battle. Thanks for another video! I enjoyed it a lot!
Beastmaster is one of the most unique jobs in the game, but it's only really good if your other jobs stink because it's slow. Still, I find it pretty fun if you have that Catch knowledge. Sadly, PR has no Paralysis animation so the whips that do it at a 50% rate are a bit mysterious to the player. Here are some other good/useful catches and tips for people using the job in their playthroughs: -Undead Husk does Break on release, good for instant-killing Ifrit although it's a long backtrack to get it. -Page 32 does Banish on release, good for instant-killing Byblos although it can miss so you might have to retry a few times. Luckily there is a save point right before Byblos. -Bandersnatch does Blaster on release, which is a coinflip chance to instant-kill any non-heavy boss like Chimera Brain. Can be caught outside Tule. -Sand Bears are referred to as Bearaga by the community, glad you found them and used them extensively. -Beastmaster loses the player a lot of money which is annoying, having to buy the gourd and not selling the hypno crown/coronet, which is the best sell in the game :( This item ups your Control chance from 40% to 75%. -Ship Gilgamesh can be instant-killed with an Aquathorn, also skipping Enkidu. -Crystal guardians in Moore Forest are rough, but I like to catch the Sand Crawl from the moogle desert and reset until Maelstrom hits at least two of them for a couple easy kills at the start of the fight. Carrying more of them with this party would work well. -It's quite easy to catch magic dragons next to the last save point in Exdeath's Castle, you can find them on the adjacent 'skull floor tiles' room. Release 4 Flame attacks ftw or save a couple for Melusine which they can basically defeat with 2 releases since she starts weak to fire. There is a pyramid Catch that does the same thing, but it's tricky and annoying to get. -Omniscient is a big Beastmaster exploit, exclusive to PR: You can release two Zuus to remove all but 1 of his HP (weak to wind and only doesn't completely die due to rounding of dmg), and in this version he doesn't reset from the releases! A single whip hit afterwards or reflecting one of his spells finishes the fight. -Nice to see the Beastkiller whip doing some good work late-game, unfortunately there's no fun way to get the Dragon Whip. Opening Shinryu's chest over and over, swinging the thief knife, and running away before tidal wave will eventually get it if you care. At least each attempt is over very quickly. -Twin Tania's weak form can be instant-killed by a lot of things, probably the easiest way is catching an Orucat in the void. -TED is a pain, but at least on PR whips do some bonus damage and never miss because the tree is an Aerial-type enemy. I suspect the White Hole chance in the script was changed from 1/3 to 1/2 or even 2/3 on PR. -I do enjoy 4x 9999 breath wing dmg to all living parts of NED, there are other things you can do with Beastmasters in the fight but those things are less reliable. You could have finished at a lower level, but that's PR boost settings for you :/ GG on the clutch win Krile!
Beastmaster, or Guide Dang It: The Game Heck of a vid, though. Fun fact: in the GBA version you can also bring the Elf Toad from World 1 to get the Kornago Gourd. And if you miss the Kornago in World 2, you can catch an Elf Toad in the tower with Gogo later and get it. I haven't made it far enough in the PR to test it there yet though
Almagest had NO RIGHT being as weak as it is in our hands. It's my favorite spell, i love holy elemental, and this is what happens?! It's almost as useless as Giga Flare. Why do I catch an endgame enemy just to do a couple hundred all-cast damage?! Disgusting!
Beastmaster sole purpose is to dispatch enemies weak to Whips, and to help Blue Mages to learn their spells, maybe can be used to stop an enemy from attacking too and open it to be stealed, but other than that is hard to be one. Most of the time I only use one, learn his abilites and swap to another job that makes good use of them, even if that means I dont get to use the Kornago thing, always felt odd to get it in first place. And dont worry about Geomancer, he may be weak first but his spells hit strong once you start to level up.
Geomancer is one of those classes where if you level up too much, geomancy tends to end up trying to do KO moves (that will never hit heavy enemies), as the table is level dependent.
@@lordofhyphens Yes that's true, the table for geomancy spells becomes a roulette of Instant KO spells on higher levels, which is good for random enemies but not great for bosses.
Beast Master, a.k.a. Blue Mage DLC Realm in FF6 is based off of it, but how often does anyone use Sketch/Control? Honestly, Beast Master has only been done justice by Octopath Traveler.
I'm looking forward to Beastmaster coming to FFXIV, partly out of morbid curiosity of how it'll work and partly because I already enjoy Blue Mage in that game.
Im sure youll be tired of this game by the end of all the play throughs, but after everything itd be cool to see- 1. A run where you get to play your favorite classes and play normally 2. A run where your party classes are randomized after every major storyline boss
Pretty funny that Whips end up a far better weapon typs than some other weapon types meant for more melee-oriented classes and that Beastmaster involves more math than _FFT_ Calculator.
As a huge Blue Mage fan, I've used Control way more than I'd like, but even though I like Beastmaster conceptually, I've never even thought of using the class beyond getting Control on a Ninja. Much like Blue Mage, the implementation in FF5 is just way too guide dependent. I'd have loved it if later releases bothered to add Beastmaster monster effects to the Bestiary for easy access. Sadly, we didn't get that even in the pixel remaster, so the class is doomed to be incredibly tedious. It was fun seeing so many monster effects in this video though, I think the run is worth a watch for that.
Beast masters are also insanely broken in bravely default 2 (it's basically a final fantasy game with the serial numbers filled off made by square and everything) since not only can they hold more than one at a time they get an abillity that gives them stat boosts from the amount they hold which can reach utterly ridiculous levels.
BeastMaster is so boring unfortunately, it has interesting mechanics But his main weapon, the whip, is almost non-existent and with such bad stats it is a job with potential without fulfillment. What they could have done is improve their attack to better take advantage of their attack on the back row and be able to capture more than one monster at a time IMO
The fact that better Beastmaster is either Blue Mage or Summoner basically means Beastmaster is not only useless, but redundant across two classes. I wonder how bad Beastmaster is going to be in FFXIV?
Shinryu has dragon whisker as a rare steal if you wanted to try that hell. Considering how you were trying to farm stingray I guess you are up for something like that though lol.
Beastmasters have one purpose for me. The ability of control. U either control to get those blue magics. Or i control to get dark matter in world 1. No more. No less. Depending on what i pull from Four job Fiesta will determine if i want to 4 release on Exdeath W2.
59:07 Actually that would be Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. They were pretty much required if you wanted to use Blue Mage or the Morpher class but other than that they weren't all that good considering you didn't really fight monsters that much. You could also control a monster and make it break the law and get sent to jail which is hilarious. They were nerfed into the ground in the sequel due to the massive changes in mechanics.
@@BacklogBusterI do wonder if you can just hack in the Jobs around the start on GBA and do a run with that but I know it’s probably not ideal or the jobs break so much of the game’s challenge?
Beast master? More like beast apprentice. Catch should just work instantly since release only works once. Feels like that would make it much more viable. Maybe give it same odds as control if you HAVE to give it a cost. Great vid tho, I'd never have seen this class otherwise
I like creature collector games, but not like this. Not like this. For real, though, this looked _painful!_ Looking forward to what geomancer has in store!
Honestly, for someone who has never even heard of FFV before, the most unhinged line to them must be "I have to return to the first meteor, but I need to restock on bears"
"Omniscient's rare steal" truly the most cursed words ever uttered
In my present save, I have in fact stolen this rare item.
You can just hit him to reset the fight so it's not that bad if you have access to Steal
@@Malconchu but in order to keep whatever you stole, don’t you need to wait until he ran out of MP, otherwise he restarts the fight because you didn’t use magic?
…And it takes 16 hours for him to run out of MP for you to have IIRC a 5% chance to steal the rare item?
@@MalachiLper If you bring two characters in, you can use the mage masher to get Silence on Omniscient. It only lasts for like 2 seconds, so you need to have the other character queued up to swing the Thief Knife (or steal) before Silence wears off. Rinse and repeat until you steal something, and if it isn't the gourd, you poke Omniscient to make him cast Reset for you :P
I think the PR doesn't let you bounce the Mage Masher's Silence procs off your own reflect anymore? But you could in previous versions.
@@Jikkuryuu ...That is one tactic that never came to mind, and now I'm angry I didn't think of it before.
this new pokemon game looks kinda weird
Nintendo gonna sue.
I mean, you aren’t throwing things - you are controlling them like circus people do, with whips (which is a design decision phased out after Gen 1), so there is no way they would go after FFV. World of Final Fantasy may be affected because of the catching of mirages.
The worst kind of Nuzlocke; after battling, release all Pokemon that participated.
"Some grinding is inevitable"
See hour long video.
"Yeah, some..."
sheeple playthrough time; can’t wait to see how much fun you have getting monsters to low health for hours.
Never mess with the Beastmaster for they have the most powerful weapon at their disposal.....Bearga.
Tinkle Tinkle Little Bell, Geomancer will be swell. Hopefully all things go well, or else things will go to hell.
Every boss fight will be either random rolls or chip damage with knives. I don't envy the poor sod who has to play through that.
I've seen all your FFV videos, and I look forward to them. I think this is my favorite one yet
This was one of the videos i was most looking forward to, and probably one you equally dreaded making. Thank you for your service.
I have really enjoyed this saga and this is the first one i catch on launch. And You can be sure i Will love it
Frog Leena's animation when she rod smashed really showed dominance
I been watching and rewatching the FFV and Dark Souls videos the last couple weeks.
I been stuck in the hospital for the last 3 weeks.
Watching your vids have been keeping me sane. Thanks man!
Damn, hopefully you get out of there soon man.
Thank you for putting out another one before I go to basic training. Really enjoying the series and didn't think I'd be catching another episode before I leave tomorrow
Godspeed and good luck!
@alexandercreef6161 thank you, I appreciate it!
Good luck
@@BacklogBuster thank you! I really appreciate hearing it
I’ve played through FFV like 6 times and had absolutely no idea about that Kornago item. I love that these games can still surprise me with random nonsense like that lol. Awesome video!
Beastmaster feels like a proof-of-concept rather than a Job. Like, if you just described it to me its mechanic sounds pretty cool for a JRPG character, but when you actually play it it just becomes a weaker Blue Mage with extra obnoxious steps.
I wonder, now that Beastmaster is confirmed to come to FFXIV, how good is it going to be or will it be far worse Blue Mage?
Honestly, it is funny how there are two classes, Ninja and Beastmaster, that are worse versions of other classes, Samurai and Blue Mage, respectively. At least Ninja is fleshed out enough to have one unique thing. Very literally, Beastmaster exists to get the last few moves of Blue Mage and that’s it.
@@iantaakalla8180 it might be similar to how it was handled in Octopath Traveler 2.
You can capture up to 6 monsters and use them however many times you want, but they have MP costs and if you want to capture a different enemy, you need to release something you already caught.
It even had a limit break in which you could summon multiple monsters if you had the MP for it, and if you played your cards right, it could straight up win boss fights in 1 or 2 turns.
@@iantaakalla8180 I see two ways they could go about it:
A: Return of the pet class. Basically akin to how Summoners used to work and much like WoW hunters.
B: Become the beast. Like the Morpher in FFTA, which was closely tied to the Beastmaster in that game (and basically the only point of capturing beasts with them in the first place)
Either way, collecting a large variety of beasts will likely be central to the class much like with Blue Mage spells.
As for Ninja, I'd say he's more like a better Thief really. They're both speedy, have similar weapon options, both have a dedicated Flee command and a support skill to manipulate encounters in their favor.
@@MalachiLperBeast Master along with jobs such as Berserker and Red Mage are the reasons why FF5 are the game would most like to see remastered with some of the evolutions the jobs have gotten over the years.
@@twelfthknight it was their first attempt at Beast Master, and they weren’t balancing jobs to be competitive with one another. Beast Master is a continuation of Blue Mage - a lot of blue spells require Control. If you look at blue, catch, and control as part of the same game mechanic, there’s a considerable amount of forethought put into what is available and when. It is not a coincidence that Beast Master can single-handedly defeat and capture shield dragons, or that it provides a final boss attack that a Blue Mage can’t learn.
Gotta catch them all!
Oh boy I love looking at tables for 2 hours to get anything done.
I Like Shorts! They're Comfy and Easy to Wear!
This series is absolute gold. Thank you!
Never knew about the Kornago thing.
Most people don't since it's only useful if you're using Beastmasters and you have to go out of your way to do it.
Fan Wikis are the reason I'm glad GameFAQs still exists. Back in my day you had to actually wait for someone else to finish the game and take the time to write out and post a full guide. Now get off my lawn.
What’s that… GameFAQs? I had to wait for the monthly issue of *Tips & Tricks* to find guides for the games I was playing back in my day…
Oh, my back!
@Xenobears You enjoy your occasional magazines that might showcase the game you want to play with half-baked tips and tricks on seeing Samus in the buff or warping straight to world 8. I'll happily enjoy my 35 12pt-font pages of monster stats and poorly made ASCII art maps and header. The future is now old man!
Uhhh... 25ish years ago...
Back in my day, we collected physical game guides from Brady Games 😂 they came with lots of greaat concept art, trivia and the like. I miss those things
28:22 That is genius. I gotta use that the next time I play FFV.
I think making beastmasters into a type of blue mage would work. As if you catch a monster once, you release it, and then can "recharge" this monster by using a tent
Or you can make monsters use up an item, but that would basically turn them into a Catmancer from Bravely Second, lol
I like the idea of Beastmasters being allowed to capture multiples of monsters to build up spell uses as seen in earlier FF titles. Say, if you catch 3 Grizzlies, you have 3 uses of Grizzly available, but are also able to catch other monsters for other spells. That way, you still keep them capture dependent to keep the job's flavor into the endgame but make them actually able to do things beyond a single use each battle. Granted, some abilities might need to be tweaked to account for crazy people catching 99 of a creature, but FF5 already plays fast and loose with how broken some things are. At the very least, the dedium of capture would then be rewarded with more than the current single use one trick pony.
I love how every improvement you can make to Beastmaster has been made in other jobs here or in Bravely Default, meaning Beastmaster was screwed unless Blue Mages were not introduced in FF5.
Heck yeah, busting some backlogs on a Monday is fire. I can't watch right now but I'm going to drop a like and comment preemptively.
Been looking forward to this one, and good to see Jachol Cave for a change! Can't wait for Geomancer!
Having never played ff5. I love these videos
The grind was real in this challenge. The magical beast types came in way more handy than expected. And the Neo Exdeath win at the end was a real butt clencher and the ultimate clutch.
I’ve been enjoying these challenges. Been thinking of doing a fiesta job run on FFV so hopefully those videos will give me knowledge on how to make the run as fun and not at all painful and long.
Depending on your team configuration, some grinding may be inevitable.
Dread it, run from it, it matters not. Grinding is _inevitable_ in some manner in all RPGs.
@@darkprelude3155 I dread the running! XD
Though autobattle in the PR likely makes it way less painful to grind escapes.
Another run, another job, and another Twintania not instantly killed with Magic Lamp Odin.
perfect way to relax on a monday evening
Realm was effectively a beast master.
HELL YEAH! BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE!! LOVE YOUR VIDEOS, and the lenna jokes xD
Your FFV videos convinced me to buy the pixel remaster version lol
The gba version is great too and available for free, just so ya know haha but if you really want the 4x options, i feel you 😂
@nintendbro3275 I'm aware the GBA version has more content but I honestly just wanted the flashy visuals and soundtrack lol
The fun part on those runs is the commentary. Hilarious 🤣
Never underestimate the power of Bearaga
You showed me some of the appeal of a lot of classes! Unfortunately Beastmaster definitely doesn't have enough. Because of this series I gave Final Fantasy 5 another shot and tried out a bunch of things you didn't even covered yet. Having a lot of fun so far. Geomancer' Gaia is a great supplemental ability for other jobs. Free magic!
I imagine it's kinda weak on its own though...
This is a true story: I was looking for a Blaze xp farm for bedrock Minecraft to build on a server with my brother and I see this video and ditch him. He’s fine but this video is more important than Minecraft.
Time to become the very best. Like no one ever was.
To catch is my real test, to train is my cause~
To RELEASE them, is my cause!
I will travel across the land, searching far and wide
Each beast caught to understand the move they have inside!
BEASTMASTER!
I haven't used much of Beastmaster, but some of the guides I've read mention the power of "Strong Attack." I'm glad you went for it, them's beeg nombers.
"You know what I'm Dune 2 that sandworm" XD
"This sounds like a job for breath wing." No! "Let's just catch 4 Zus" Nooo! I've brought !Geomancy into this fight I _know_ what coming D:
Bearmaster! :)
Interesting, I think Blaze is percentage just like Breath Wing. Wasn't expecting anything to survive 4 of them, but that's extremely convenient.
Ah, yeah. Enemy attacks are based on their stats. I guess Shield Dragons have poop magic attack.
Gilgamesh: "I brought a sidekick!" Beastmaster squad: "You brought _us_ a sidekick!"
I'm not sure what could possibly work against all the crystals, but I'm not _too_ surprised Death wasn't it. :(
Beastmaster sure made taking down ExDeath a _breeze._ :P
I'm on the edge of my seat awaiting gun puns with these bullettes. "Empty the chamber" "Firing off every round" etc
Ugh, I can't remember why I cared about those unknowns, but I feel your pain trying to find the right version of the right kind.
I'm not sure I've ever cared about the Beast Killer whip, what with the Flame Whip right there. Looking forward to surprise big damage.
Oh boy, carrying Float through the whole rift without using a tent is sure something.
Level 47! That says everything about Beastmaster taking forever.
Haha, oops all Magic Beasts indeed! :D
After a couple of freebies, he's back to spouting off White Holes again D:
Wow, that could hardly have been closer! Way to pull through Krile!
This is trivia rather than strategy, for reasons you will understand better than anyone, but there's an enemy which !Releases Evil Eye. You can potentially petrify the Almagest part with it.
I was brainstorming improved !Catch mechanics while watching, and I think I got a decent one. What if !Catch was a status like !Control? You have to commit a character to maintaining it, but if the enemy passes the hp threshold (or dies) while under the effect they get caught automagically. This would make catching monsters fit into the flow of battle instead of the *core mechanic* of Beastmaster requiring you to play a completely different game on top of the regular battle.
Thanks for another video! I enjoyed it a lot!
I like that series, have a great Day and Success.
The saddest thing about watching this was knowing a page 34 can one shot biblos with a banish release. 😢
Goblin is an excellent Capture. It does FLARE!
That sounds like such an FF6 feature, having a cute early-game creature do a damaging spell.
@@iantaakalla8180 Thinking about it, it honestly makes sense to have Goblin do that because of the hoops you jump through TO capture it.
I'll be checking this video out tonight. Surprised it's a hour long
Saved at the 11th hour by Krile, lol
Beastmaster is one of the most unique jobs in the game, but it's only really good if your other jobs stink because it's slow. Still, I find it pretty fun if you have that Catch knowledge. Sadly, PR has no Paralysis animation so the whips that do it at a 50% rate are a bit mysterious to the player. Here are some other good/useful catches and tips for people using the job in their playthroughs:
-Undead Husk does Break on release, good for instant-killing Ifrit although it's a long backtrack to get it.
-Page 32 does Banish on release, good for instant-killing Byblos although it can miss so you might have to retry a few times. Luckily there is a save point right before Byblos.
-Bandersnatch does Blaster on release, which is a coinflip chance to instant-kill any non-heavy boss like Chimera Brain. Can be caught outside Tule.
-Sand Bears are referred to as Bearaga by the community, glad you found them and used them extensively.
-Beastmaster loses the player a lot of money which is annoying, having to buy the gourd and not selling the hypno crown/coronet, which is the best sell in the game :( This item ups your Control chance from 40% to 75%.
-Ship Gilgamesh can be instant-killed with an Aquathorn, also skipping Enkidu.
-Crystal guardians in Moore Forest are rough, but I like to catch the Sand Crawl from the moogle desert and reset until Maelstrom hits at least two of them for a couple easy kills at the start of the fight. Carrying more of them with this party would work well.
-It's quite easy to catch magic dragons next to the last save point in Exdeath's Castle, you can find them on the adjacent 'skull floor tiles' room. Release 4 Flame attacks ftw or save a couple for Melusine which they can basically defeat with 2 releases since she starts weak to fire. There is a pyramid Catch that does the same thing, but it's tricky and annoying to get.
-Omniscient is a big Beastmaster exploit, exclusive to PR: You can release two Zuus to remove all but 1 of his HP (weak to wind and only doesn't completely die due to rounding of dmg), and in this version he doesn't reset from the releases! A single whip hit afterwards or reflecting one of his spells finishes the fight.
-Nice to see the Beastkiller whip doing some good work late-game, unfortunately there's no fun way to get the Dragon Whip. Opening Shinryu's chest over and over, swinging the thief knife, and running away before tidal wave will eventually get it if you care. At least each attempt is over very quickly.
-Twin Tania's weak form can be instant-killed by a lot of things, probably the easiest way is catching an Orucat in the void.
-TED is a pain, but at least on PR whips do some bonus damage and never miss because the tree is an Aerial-type enemy. I suspect the White Hole chance in the script was changed from 1/3 to 1/2 or even 2/3 on PR.
-I do enjoy 4x 9999 breath wing dmg to all living parts of NED, there are other things you can do with Beastmasters in the fight but those things are less reliable. You could have finished at a lower level, but that's PR boost settings for you :/ GG on the clutch win Krile!
Beastmaster, or Guide Dang It: The Game
Heck of a vid, though.
Fun fact: in the GBA version you can also bring the Elf Toad from World 1 to get the Kornago Gourd. And if you miss the Kornago in World 2, you can catch an Elf Toad in the tower with Gogo later and get it. I haven't made it far enough in the PR to test it there yet though
Almagest had NO RIGHT being as weak as it is in our hands. It's my favorite spell, i love holy elemental, and this is what happens?! It's almost as useless as Giga Flare. Why do I catch an endgame enemy just to do a couple hundred all-cast damage?! Disgusting!
I believe Release uses the monster's stats for damage, so Almagest from a weak monster will deal much smaller damage.
@sertiana2512 Fair I figured as much, but it should've been learnable through a control - blue magic learn strategy. But then we get that.
Beastmaster sole purpose is to dispatch enemies weak to Whips, and to help Blue Mages to learn their spells, maybe can be used to stop an enemy from attacking too and open it to be stealed, but other than that is hard to be one.
Most of the time I only use one, learn his abilites and swap to another job that makes good use of them, even if that means I dont get to use the Kornago thing, always felt odd to get it in first place.
And dont worry about Geomancer, he may be weak first but his spells hit strong once you start to level up.
Geomancer is one of those classes where if you level up too much, geomancy tends to end up trying to do KO moves (that will never hit heavy enemies), as the table is level dependent.
@@lordofhyphens Yes that's true, the table for geomancy spells becomes a roulette of Instant KO spells on higher levels, which is good for random enemies but not great for bosses.
Al-Muh-Jest... Jest as in Jester. Love your videos! 🤣😋
“Vancouver kid”… the Canadian or American one… i just always assumed Canada with your accent… but I’ve been wrong plenty o times before 🤔
Oh sorry, I'm from "veng-couver" way up north.
I guess WoFF did beast master justice cuz you are the beast master
Oh hey the class i didn't use because i didn't want a guide for the whole thing
Half of the FF5 jobs require a guide to learn how their gimmicks work. But Beastmaster is definitely the worst offender.
Anyone else notice how Xezat always spawns in the wrong spot in the ending sequence then he corrects himself? Man I love submarines
Beast Master, a.k.a. Blue Mage DLC
Realm in FF6 is based off of it, but how often does anyone use Sketch/Control? Honestly, Beast Master has only been done justice by Octopath Traveler.
Skip....No!
We always visit Zok!
Ikd. I always stay because of Lenna getting poisoned
Not the sharpest tool in a shed she is. But her heart is in the right place
@@nolanstrife7350 I'm confident she'll dodge it one day.
this job's genes made it into H'aanit capture and Beastmaster (BD2)
I'm looking forward to Beastmaster coming to FFXIV, partly out of morbid curiosity of how it'll work and partly because I already enjoy Blue Mage in that game.
epic nuzlock run of final fantasy 5!!
Im sure youll be tired of this game by the end of all the play throughs, but after everything itd be cool to see-
1. A run where you get to play your favorite classes and play normally
2. A run where your party classes are randomized after every major storyline boss
No thanks.
I wanna see how you’ll pronounce Zok next !! 😅
You will eventually get that rare steal!
Krile solo challenge nice
12:40 BEARAGA as the FF5 runners are known to say.
This looked like the worst of all so far. I felt your pain during this.
Pretty funny that Whips end up a far better weapon typs than some other weapon types meant for more melee-oriented classes and that Beastmaster involves more math than _FFT_ Calculator.
Finally! Little pigm.. I mean diamond bell 🔔 has seen some use))))😂😂😂
Vancouverboi! I love your vids but now your more awesome for being from BC (I am to!!) lolol
Beast Master shows up in bravely default 2. Its still a pain but if you grind it out it lets you have insane stats
Fun fact for others, aegis released cast rainbow wind. It does hp leak and can skip archaeoaevis form change
As a huge Blue Mage fan, I've used Control way more than I'd like, but even though I like Beastmaster conceptually, I've never even thought of using the class beyond getting Control on a Ninja. Much like Blue Mage, the implementation in FF5 is just way too guide dependent. I'd have loved it if later releases bothered to add Beastmaster monster effects to the Bestiary for easy access. Sadly, we didn't get that even in the pixel remaster, so the class is doomed to be incredibly tedious. It was fun seeing so many monster effects in this video though, I think the run is worth a watch for that.
The way I acquired omniscient's gourd was 1 character with blue and time magic and another with steal and mix.
I think FFX-2 had Trainer dressphere which was basically this. I never got it in my only playthrough though so no idea
Nope, Trainer is just /petaction. Other RPG that does this, for example, is Hunter jobs from Octopath Traveler games
Beast masters are also insanely broken in bravely default 2 (it's basically a final fantasy game with the serial numbers filled off made by square and everything) since not only can they hold more than one at a time they get an abillity that gives them stat boosts from the amount they hold which can reach utterly ridiculous levels.
On the bright side, geomancers are protected from damage floors
BeastMaster is so boring unfortunately, it has interesting mechanics But his main weapon, the whip, is almost non-existent and with such bad stats it is a job with potential without fulfillment. What they could have done is improve their attack to better take advantage of their attack on the back row and be able to capture more than one monster at a time IMO
Maybe adding a "summon" type of effect? Instead of having to catch and reléase, once You catch You can summon any Beast You already captured
@ignacioperez5479 O problema que eu vejo é que ficaria muito parecidos com BLUE Mage e Summoner, e ambos tem algo pro fim do jogo
The fact that better Beastmaster is either Blue Mage or Summoner basically means Beastmaster is not only useless, but redundant across two classes. I wonder how bad Beastmaster is going to be in FFXIV?
Shinryu has dragon whisker as a rare steal if you wanted to try that hell. Considering how you were trying to farm stingray I guess you are up for something like that though lol.
Beastmasters exercise their right to bear arms.
Never used beastmaster in ff v. It's pretty cool, like blue magic
"Lena can just beat off the team with the healing staff (to get them back into tiptop shape)"
shame that wasnt in the FF Anthology Translation
Beastmaster? Beast Mode!
Beastmasters have one purpose for me. The ability of control. U either control to get those blue magics. Or i control to get dark matter in world 1. No more. No less. Depending on what i pull from Four job Fiesta will determine if i want to 4 release on Exdeath W2.
59:07 Actually that would be Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. They were pretty much required if you wanted to use Blue Mage or the Morpher class but other than that they weren't all that good considering you didn't really fight monsters that much. You could also control a monster and make it break the law and get sent to jail which is hilarious. They were nerfed into the ground in the sequel due to the massive changes in mechanics.
In North America maybe, but FF11 predates FFTA by like 6 months or something in the original Japanese release.
@@BacklogBusterAh. Good to know.
Lets go!🎉
The only thing I ever use beastmaster for is to make my blue mage's life easier. I never realized that whips were so not bad in this game though.
Do you think Beastmasters would be better if you stock up on monsters like items? Catching would still be tedious but less backtracking to restock.
what job is that in the Second Crystal Far Right still Gray out?
Mime probably.
are you going to do the hidden classes? I know they are post game but would love to see them ran from the start
No. The Advance Jobs dont exist in the pixel remaster and they're all post-4 tablets anyways so its not exactly going to be interesting.
@@BacklogBuster ahh didnt know they weren't in the remaster! I was hoping you could hack them back to the start
@@BacklogBusterI do wonder if you can just hack in the Jobs around the start on GBA and do a run with that but I know it’s probably not ideal or the jobs break so much of the game’s challenge?
Im not doing the advance jobs.
>hour long video
Hell yeah it's time for suffering
Da Bears!
Bear is the best. I do not envy this run
Beastmaster 2: Through the Portal of Time only run when?
This could be more sad than the white mage run, damn this class is something else
Just grind White Mage to 50 and its fine :^)
Almagest is powerful, but sadly, very weak in the hands of Shell Dragon, because they have a Magic stat of 0.
I guess we're not counting Gau in ff6. He seems like an evolved version of Beastmaster, far less tedious and allows for multiple uses
Beast master? More like beast apprentice. Catch should just work instantly since release only works once. Feels like that would make it much more viable. Maybe give it same odds as control if you HAVE to give it a cost. Great vid tho, I'd never have seen this class otherwise
I like creature collector games, but not like this.
Not like this.
For real, though, this looked _painful!_ Looking forward to what geomancer has in store!
They should've made so that the captured beast would only "escape" 33% of the time or something.
Should have saved B4 the stingray encounter and reload ur save. But then it on a timer so NVM ...
To farm the best whip, couldn't you catch 4 winds, save, and reload if you don't get the whip?
Super curious on this run because I know Beastmaster's beasts can be super good, but it always seems way too hard to get and never worth the payoff.
We'll get Geomancer soon......soon.... haha