War Thunder P-51D-30 vs Japan | Throwback
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- Опубликовано: 21 мар 2019
- Ammo:
-12.7mm: Universal
Convergence: 400m
Manual Engine Control settings:
-100% prop pitch
-70% radiators
P51D30 video! Throwback to a simpler time back when I had 100 subs.
Against Japan, fitting considering the amount of pilots flocking to Japan nowadays.
Since the P51D30 a year ago, I've barely flown it despite it being one of my most flown aircraft. It's due to the trash rudder, which will be shown in all its glory in this match. Germans now have much better control at high speed than the D30.
With the amount of people playing Axis, looks like I'll be mostly playing Allies and so my videos will be mostly Allies in the next few videos.
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Uuh, ahhh!
* opens beer *
* opens bag of crisps *
* presses play *
Premiere experience!
If your trying to act American then call them chips not crisp still good one
@@acescionti711 It's not my intention to act american 😊
*chips
Why don’t you ever zoom in on your shots?
Make a video about dogfights you lost. And explain why you lose. That would be interesting to see.
I'll show anything that is interesting for sure!
Lol , med så fint folkeskikk som han spør med er det vel vanskelig å si nei .lol
I share the idea
A fail compilation would be funny.
Such a good idea
That thumbnail probably took more time to make than it did for Adam to shred this team
Edit: oh shit Adam supports Pewds, Adam is a hero in war thunder and real life
Hahaha perhaps!
r u racist? Cause Felix sure is.
@@Dudeman9339 no, but I support Pewds. That doesn't make me racist. If I support Trump, does that make me xenophobic? No, it does not. Some of my best friends are immigrants, and just because I support someone doesn't make me racist or xenophobic or homophobic or whatever the crap.
@@Dudeman9339 that's a dumb thing to say. I support pewds and will always support him.
Im an Indian i support poods, fuck t gay. There are. Atons of Indians on poods side, let's get him to 100mill.
Fear not, I won't be asking for bobs and vagene pics
" The P-51s can control very well at high speed "
Gaijoob : Oh really huh ?
Screw Gaijoob ruined these planes .
It's a shame indeed.
What do you mean? I think the p51s was worse before, a lot worse! I remember when you had to climb for 15mins just to get over 6km
Just Tony what?
Adam514 what happened to them?
How to use .50?
i like how u always write your thought proces on the side of the screen so that we can pause the vid, read it and realise whats about to happen and then just watch it being executed. really good work man
I try to leave enough time so that you can read the text without having to pause, but thanks!
Nahhhhhh
I’m the last zero in this, me and my friend were feeling hopeless ate that moment since we couldn’t regain altitude anymore. Lol what a good game haha . Thanks for a really nice match Adam!
Haha good fight!
I found you channel maybe a week ago and I've started using some of the tactics in your videos and have found a dramatic increase in my performance. Thanks Adam, you are number 1.
Welcome! Glad they helped!
That War Thunder music made me shed a tear !! There have been 4 years since I joined and I will never FORGET that BT-7 in the hangar with music in background.
Or that i15 and silver sb2m
Haha interesting thing not to forget!
Keep growing this channel Adam! You and Green are the best!
I will, thanks!
first time i checked the channel ! like it !
Welcome!
thx Adam cuz I will have my D30 soon, and I learnt a lot from ur vid!
My pleasure!
Finally D30!
Yes!
Ah I see you're doing your part! *respect+*
Doing my part for a better world!
im glad i got the f4u-4b after seeing your videos, it really is an amazing aircraft. just carried a 1v5 to victory in it
Nice! Indeed it is!
My biggest carry was in the F4U1D against 5 people, three of them just crashed trying to bnz me tho
Don't worry Adam, I liked your old thumbnails :P
Hahaha a real fan!
You are by far the best pilot I've ever seen
Thanks for the praise!
Thanks for telling us why you're flying the way you're flying. It's invaluable - even to us who rarely fly Mustangs. Do keep up the good work!
Thanks for the feedback!
I learn alot watching your videos.
I'm glad they help!
Congratulations you are now a flying ace!!
Thanks!
Glad you went back to that plane
Was my only D30 match in fact haha, it's a shadow of its former glory atm.
Fw190s.
IRL pilots hardly ever use rudder at high speeds but we are so reliant on it in RB due to instructor. Im Sim mode the P-51 flies really well at high speeds since you hardly ever use rudder.
Yeah, but then the issue is that not every plane is like this.
Is the Instructor enforced/always present in RB ? Because I remember deactivating it somewhere in the option one or two year ago.
@@CRL_One Oh ok. Yeah I know that, after my first battles in this game I tried to play with a joystick and holy shit I didn't stand a chance ! "really good with it" means God Tier.
@@CRL_One The near ground instructor would always try to kill me when I was landing, it would always pull up, bleed speed fast, and send me bouncing down the runway. So glad I found out I could turn it off lol
Rudder is still necessary for controlled turns - unless you are in an exact 90 degree turn you are going to pitch up or down slightly, however yes, at higher speeds generally most of the turning is done by ailerons and elevators, not so much the rudder.
Also, American and German aircraft in particular have some fairly... sensitive control surfaces... which in real life, and in most sims, could be used to put the aircrafts into controlled stalls to get behind opponents. Obviously when attempting this, or recovering from an accidental stall, needs use of the rudder as well.
I'm honestly a little disappointed that the P-51 in War Thunder doesn't go into a flat spin when you attempt a high-G turn for more than about 5 seconds.
Nothing like API/API-T .50s to ruin the day of the A6M
Indeed.
Any idea of why my view resets to the center while trying to manoeuver looking back?? It really piss me off...
I don't know what you mean unfortunately.
Nice video man. I've been Votour premium grinding up to French Jets in preparation for whenever the Mirage III gets released, keep running into ADHD and his G.91 lol. (since Super Mysterie is directly before the Mirage 3)
Premium Vautour looks fun indeed.
My favourite jet is the Mirage III, do you think they will bring it to WT?
@@luguicalaca Without a doubt. Probably next or the update after, when they bring in the mig-21, f-104, f-4 (possibly), and Spectat Jaguar or Lightning. They'll probably also introduce Anti-radiation missiles and radar semi active missiles.
Can you please tell me how to show all my stats in instructor in realistic battle i one have the speed and altitude ?
I use this now.
Overlay: forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/483838-warthunder-real-time-information/
Wow, great job Adam
Thanks!
Can you make a review of the Spitfire Mk.24, because there is almost no replays of it.
It's on my list!
When I face Japan in the D-30
I know ill have a good time
Nice video
Haha with this rudder though it's a pain.
When i set prop pith to 100 on my 109 i either get a dead engine or a n ircraft that slows down even when just going straight. I’m sure I’m using it either wrong or on a wrong aircraft, any tips?
Haha for sure, on German aircraft you need to leave prop pitch automatic. There is a way to use the German prop pitch as an airbrake, but you need to be careful.
Adam514 so MEC is generally only useful on the brits and the americans, right?
*SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON*
I agree!
Hello Adam, I was wondering how the P51 D30 holds up nowadays. Ive heard from other people that it isnt as good as it used to be, but i dont know who to trust tbh because i havent seen a relatively recent video on the D30.
I have been playing the F4u 4 and I've been liking it so far, but i want something a bit more agile and was wondering if the D30 is the correct choice for what i desire. Ive played the Premium D10 and i like the way it flies, is the D30 the same in strategy or is it a bit different?
Yeah got nerfed 2 years ago, mainly the rudder locks up massively.
Yeah I prefer F4U4 over the D30 currently. Better roll and turn, but limited WEP and a bit worse climb at low altitude. Same strategy as D30 though.
Whata the best climbing speed for the d30 and is the manual engine control stuff in the description for climbing?
Like 280 IAS, the MEC in the description is a good starting point for the aircraft in the video. Usually MEC for climbing and going fast is the same, so yes.
Heyy adam can you give me a tip on how to use this thing effectively? would you recommend me turn fighting if there is no way to run?
You can turn with most Germans especially if you use flaps. Against the other nations, it's a death sentence to turn.
Adam514 Thank you so much, this will help me improve alot keep up the great work!!💫🎊
How dare you play this without me.......😑😑😑😑
Played it once in like 4 months without you.
:O
Can you do a J7W1 guide? I’m having a bit of trouble adjusting to this plane and it’s weapons
It wouldn't be a guide, but J7W1 is on my list!
Adam514 Sweet! You’re gameplay alone with explanations is a guide enough!
Adam, do you think you could do a vid on the F4U-4? I know you're a big fan of its chad big brother, the F4U-4B, but the F4U-4 is still good imo.
Yeah it's on my list! You could say it's a D30 replacement.
could u do a video on the N1KJA
It's on my list!
Anyone know if they have plans to make the rudder on the p51 actually work?
Don't know of any plans.
Hey adam, got a request.
Any chance on a video with 190Ds/TA152H1 on how to fight the Corsairs and particularly the Bearcats? Having quite a lot of problems with those. Especially the latter ones.
190Ds and Ta152H are very different. Ta152H will actually outturn Corsairs and Bearcats with flaps, while 190Ds can't do that. In 190Ds you require the energy advantage.
True dat. With the TaH its not that bad, but with the 190s I see no land. 190s just dont climb as well, so I rarely have the energy and it feels like reversing is not the viable option. But maybe its just me.
What’s the climb speed in general for the P51Ds?
280 or so.
Still waiting for a BTD gameplay. And any plans on playing ships or tanks?
Edit: would you like the F-104 to be a thing in the game?
BTD is on my list! I play tanks from time to time, I wouldn't play tanks alone though and I have nothing to teach in tanks.
Haha F104 probably has a turn radius of around 1km, should be fun.
Glad you liked it! :D
I think F-5 FF or F-8 Crusader would be nice to see and they could balance T-2 and maybe MIG-21
If they add f-104 it should be in German tree after CL’s right?
I would rather have a f14 shooting down targets from miles away
I'm not sure if you would reply, but I wonder how would one fly the N1K series? Because they honestly feel like an inferior version to the Ki-84s
The 6.3 BR ones aren't worth their BR. Only decent one is N1K1.
Could you make a vid in the seafire Fr 47?
It's on my list!
Didn't the A7M get a buff in low altitude speed with this patch? I have to try it out.
It got a slight nerf.
is there any difference between the playstyle of the d-30 vs the d-5
not rlly u still wanna side climb and BnZ
Whats your Opinion on Ki-43 III Otsu and the Japanese Exclusive Saber
Since i dont see a lot videos about these two planes
F30?
@@AdamTheEnginerd F40
It's competitive.
Adam can u do la 5fn video pls.And what is your favourite aircraft nation?
It's on my list!
I don't have a particular liking of a nation, I like specific aircraft in each nation.
Adam what is your gun targeting distance ?
I know this will most likely come across to you as cliched, but your channel is the best War Thunder dedicated channel out there!
Educational and funny, just the way I, along with I believe a couple of other people, like it! Keep up the good work mate!
Also, could you make a video dedicated to defeating the ra-ther underrated P51D30s, F4U 4Bs, and the P47Ms/Ns?
Awfully sorry I wrote a comment this long.
Edit: and for some extra information, could you in the said video fly in the G14 as you demolish the Allied fighters?
(Again, I know you're probably busy with your Aerospace Engineering studies, but thanks for taking the time to read until here!)
Thanks mate! It's certainly less cliched when you explain a bit why ;).
Defeating those planes as Axis?
No worries, I read fast and I get much longer comments!
G14 is the worst 5.3 BR 109, so I would go with G10 over G14. I have a 9 kill G10 video on RUclips, but it's old.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Ah, right.
But still, is fighting the P51D30 at 3.3km altitude (where they change supercharger gears) a good idea?
My inner self says yes, but you may say otherwise, and your word is basically law so...
Haha I don't want my word to be taken as law, and quite the contrary if you think I made a mistake let me know!
It is still a good idea for sure. Even 3km nowadays since the engine nerf. It'll accelerate significantly slower at 3km compared to 1km.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Thanks for the reply!
I'm now researching the G10 instead of the Do 217 E2!
My pleasure!
Getting pretty popular out there these days eh bud ;)
Haha indeed!
I’ve ran into phly, eurocanadian, even jingles way back when... but you, you evade me good sir, I am coming. Let it be known.
hey Adam is this the premium one? Awesome video as always man :))
Nono it's the tech tree one (the best P51D).
Thanks!
@@AdamTheEnginerd thank you!!
Nice one :)
Thanks!
11:03 nice pilot snipe
Love the vids. Also, how do you get that thing with the hp, AoA, etc? And does it show in game or only after?
Thanks!
I use this now: overlay: forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/483838-warthunder-real-time-information/
Nice vid Adam!
Can we get a P51 H video? I think it's been over a year since you touched that plane lol
Thanks!
Yeah it's on my list!
@@AdamTheEnginerd Thank you!
I would really enjoy seeing some f80 A-5 gameplay!
I showed a dogfight with it a few weeks ago.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Oh thanks for replying I didnt see it gonna take a look now. :)
What convergence and ammo belts you use?
Description of my videos.
I'm always asking to my self.."Buy what is MER in the advantages/svantages factors?
Maneuvering Energy Retention. Essentially it's a measure of how much energy (speed) an aircraft loses when maneuvering. Different aircraft will lose speed at different rates depending on their power, weight, wing, geometry, etc. I did some tests and made a video explaining it if you're interested: ruclips.net/video/wLA8cspXbbE/видео.html
@@AdamTheEnginerd thank you so mutch. Seeing your videos it's very insteresting, with a perfect well based explication level.I will see that. Thanks
@@leandroorlando2531 My pleasure! Lots more to be learned!
Whats the telemetry thing that he has on the top left?
It's called the "local host".
How to access the "local host":
You need to be running War Thunder or it won't work!
Option 1: on the same computer that is running WT:
-Type localhost:8111/ in the address bar and press enter and voila.
Option 2 (which also works on the computer that runs WT):
-Type Your_IP_Address:8111/ where you replace "Your_IP_Address" by your IP Address (192.168.X.XXX) in the address bar and press enter and voila, you can look at the characteristics on another device while flying.
@@AdamTheEnginerd thanks man gonna come in handy for when playing props
Unrelated to the video but I'm having trouble flying my MK24 spitfire against jets, any tips?
It's normal, you have to be patient and let the enemy come to you. Don't dive unless you're certain you'll catch the enemy jet.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Alrighty thanks.
Can you play with the p38j15 please ?
I suppose, I don't really like P38s.
What is that box full of information on the left and is there any means of activating it?
I’m generally intrigued and interested.
It's called the "local host".
How to access the "local host":
You need to be running War Thunder or it won't work!
Option 1: on the same computer that is running WT:
-Type localhost:8111/ in the address bar and press enter and voila.
Option 2 (which also works on the computer that runs WT):
-Type Your_IP_Address:8111/ where you replace "Your_IP_Address" by your IP Address (192.168.X.XXX) in the address bar and press enter and voila, you can look at the characteristics on another device while flying.
Adam514 Thanks a bundle Adam!
Adam, try out the i-185 (m-82) sometime! It's a really interesting plane. It has a super high AoA that makes its low speed MER very bad, but its high speed energy retention (in turns and straight lines) is somehow really good despite the AoA. It's got P-47N level roll (just shy of the 190's) and okay-to-bad turn (better than a 190 though, and even decent with flaps). If you have your fw 190 angles mastered, you can just use those same techniques with this plane to get on your opponent's six. The bad low-speed MER also helps with staying on their six. I've managed to tail a Yak-3 in a CB for over a minute and a half before another enemy interrupted. Difficult but doable.
I've noticed that this plane loves to spiral dive because its high speed MER is so good. I'm not sure about this but I think it could even come out of a spiral dive with more speed than a P-51D-5 or a P-63.
The AoA makes defensive flying much more difficult than a 190A imo though, because you can move your nose a lot without actually changing direction. It's weird (But the same wonky AoA gives you excellent snap-to-target for offensive situations). And also it has bad (but manageable) climb rate stock but good-nice climb rate spaded, which allows it to energy fight with 109's and the like. It's very, very weird when you're at excessive AoA's and you can't turn but you can still hold your own in a stall fight with a 109. Definitely one of the weirdest planes I've ever played, but very fun.
P.S. You have to be extra careful when diving on low flyers. You compress very little, especially for a Russian plane, so there's no problem getting your nose up, but due to the AoA you can still crash even when your nose is well above the horizon.
Yeah I quite like it myself, and I also find it weird. Climb rate stock is still good though.
I really like this plane Man thx =P
My pleasure!
@@AdamTheEnginerd As usual, excellent Aim even with rudder lock xD
Eh considering the rudder lock yeah.
Can we get a d5 review?
It's on my list!
How would you feel about the A4 Skyhawk getting added to this game?
I don't know it.
@@AdamTheEnginerd en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_A-4_Skyhawk
10.09 really? I thought its best at high alt also? Which enemy aircraft perform better than this at high alt?
The speed difference is highest at low altitude.
I find it so difficult to use P51's series. the roll rate bad and its so hard to turn. its not a fun plane
Roll rate isn't bad, it's the rudder that is trash except on the P51H. Indeed P51Ds aren't fun since the nerf imo.
Whats your gun convergence when you use these 50 cals
Lots of useful info in the description ;).
@@AdamTheEnginerd ooop, didnt see! Thanks!
Nice job, im try to be as good as you these days.
Thanks!
Just got it. Hows it climb spaded? At 280 km/h ias
Climbs decent for the BR.
@@AdamTheEnginerd thnx dude.
Can you play the me262 with the 50ml gun?
Mm sorry
It's on my list!
I thought that i was crazy when i couldn't use the P-51 as good as i use to. I guess the rudder was nerfed like a year or 2 ago but i assumed it was always like that
A bit more than a year ago. I flew it twice shortly after it was nerfed and shelved it. I got good results, but it wasn't fun.
It has bad rudder since 1.73 or 1.77 if I am not wrong
@@arternativeyt that makes so much sense... I felt like something was wrong with the old girl...but never could put my finger on it.
thinking of getting the P-51-D10 what are your thoughts
Meh I'd wait until the rudder isn't like this.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Gaijin tried to make the P-51's rudder "historical" . It was actually worse few patches ago. However the real problem is while P-51 has to be "historical", some of its opponent enjoy the advantage of having incorrect FM.
Does the p51-h5 have the same rudder issue?
Nah P51H's rudder is much better.
@@AdamTheEnginerd thank god for that. Ive been playin the p51 d20 a lot(almost golded the crew for free) the plane has been difficult to play since the last few patches due to the rudder. It would have been a dissappointment if the h5 had the same problem since i heard it was a very strong plane at 6.3.
I've been having a very tough time flying the P-51D-30 recently, despite it also being my most-flown plane and knowing I used to fly great in it a couple of years ago. What frustrates me is I don't know where this degradation in my performance is coming from, asides from the obvious rudder nerf.
The state of RB has, personally, gotten so bad that I tried to find solace in Simulator Battles, to only see that it too is a shithole in the sense of EC just being a bomber swatting competition with the German's Ju 288s and Me 264s carrying the match.
It is a bit slower and a bit worse at climbing since a 1.5 years ago. It's like my 3rd most flown plane so I know the feeling.
Can you play in Cockpit and/or VR Mode?
I could.
First, love your vids keep it up!!
Thanks for the support!
Yo adam which do you think is better: the P51D10 or D30?
For the BR? Tough call, D10 perhaps.
adam, i need your help: some people says that the P51-H is the best prop fighter in the game. i don't feel it that way. can you do a video about the P51H against german props please? so i can understand what am i doing wrong
I did one mostly stock vs German-Japanese combo. I'll revisit the P51H, it's on my list.
@@AdamTheEnginerd thank you very much!
Can you do a Video on the Ki-87 Pls? Try 2
I don't have it unfortunately.
@@AdamTheEnginerd and the J7W?
It's on my list!
Ill soon be spading this bird. But i have the P-38L to do still. Loved the J variant!
I dislike P38s haha.
Why's that?
Big target, fragile, and not that fast at low altitude.
challenge: play the mig-9 stock
Might as well do Mig9L though.
the mig 9 is a friendly plane to fly tbh
@@flxdrv5020 not when its stock and keep getting uptiered to 8.0
@@AdamTheEnginerd i will give you a cookie if you do the regular mig-9 stock and get atleast 3 kills, you have to get uptiered for it to count tho [ you get uptiered like 90% of the time]
That's a bit too precise haha.
Do you have the p38k?
Nope.
A7M got nerfed ?? Didnt I read in the patch notes that it got some sort of flight model boost ...
Yeah, but in fact it's a nerf in handling and even speed a bit.
@@AdamTheEnginerd rip, bought the A7M1 jsut a week before the update xD Still a good plane tho.
How about playing in the b57 Canberra? I've never seen you play any bombers
I did the Arado 234C3 ;).
@@AdamTheEnginerd how about the b25j?
Maybe I'll do it one day.
How tf do you catch so many people by surprise? If I ever get within a km of anyone they turn and it’s over for my attack and I have to reclimb
Euh I made many passes in this match on aware targets haha.
Good ole throwback. I got 700 games in my D30
Nice, I've got around that number as well.
id like to know how you got that high and still had a team left. By the time i get to 5k either my team is mostly dead or we have won.
Well it was an airspawn map, which does benefit the Allies relatively speaking.
Digging the skin on the p51. Not overly complicated
It's the default skin haha.
@@AdamTheEnginerd I had no idea lol I'm not far enough down the tree. Any advise on getting planes faster?
Play to win and eventually you'll research stuff very fast as you improve.
@@AdamTheEnginerd thanks man
"Always shoot to scare them and make them think you were close to a shot;)."...So now I will know your sekrit plan if I ever run into you...
Haha I've got many sekrit plans though!
@@AdamTheEnginerd But I have stronk sekrit reveal fluid...i.imgur.com/W9gpd0q.jpg
Will you do ta 152 c3?
I did it twice.
@@AdamTheEnginerd really i havent watch it yet
Would've liked to see Dogeness's 1v1 with the 84 too
I'll think about it for next time.
I have a love hate relationship with this plane. It's good as long as you are above everyone, I have been near to an ace in multiple times that I had to J out because lack of time. I feel like this thing sits better between 4k and 2k where the roll becomes decent at low speed. But boi the rudder, I once engaged a g2 tropical that removed my rudder in the merge and I actually felt no difference for the 5 minutes of dogfight, realized just after shooting it down
Jout because of lack of time?
@@AdamTheEnginerdI play during the 30 minute break between the six hours of class. Sometimes I can take an entire match in 25 minutes, some others I get killed in the first 10 minutes and think I can take another match but when it's time to carry it goes longer and I end up having to return to class before the second match ends
Which one is better P-51H or Spit Mk.24?
It's debatable. If P51H had infinite WEP it would be the P51H for sure.
Ta 152H1
I feel like the P-51Ds are more trouble than they’re worth. They are anywhere between 3 and 4 times the repair cost of the P-57Ds and I believe they’re also pricier than the P-47N as well. They only really shine over those planes in a squadron and they just feel anemic in my opinion. Hope they get fixed sometime soon.
Why is the guy whining in the chat that he is bad? Its sad that he maybe didnt learn anything from your videos. But dont worry thanks to you and greenfury and jengar i learned a lot. I became from a bad player to a better player. I win more 1vs1, ok the aim is below average but i pratice on it, the rest is all thx to you. I fly without squad so i sometimes have a hard time especially allied teams, even when i kill 2 we lose anyway.
Sometimes people go on rants about how bad they are haha, it happens!
Glad I helped you!
Do you prefer 300 or 400m convergence?
300m is too low, I used to use 300m though. I'm at 500m now to improve my headon performance.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Nice, I use 400m for a while now. 300 seems odd!
How was a7m nerfed I didn't read patch notes
Roll is significantly worse, it's slightly slower at sea level, and there's more compression at speed.
At 3:51 look at the water it looks like your about to hit the water because of the contrails,very trippyyy
Ehh I don't see it.
When do I need to switch the supercharger on this plane.
Supercharger switch is now automatic on this plane.
AdamTheEnginerd thanks
i dont play around 5.0 often, why is the Ki-84 so dangerous?
Ki84 is a fast Japanese aircraft that still outturns the D30.
If ur playing 5.0 and start climbing and spot one of these guys you'd think they have an airspawn because they are like 2km above you and they have 4 20mm's that have better damage, ammo capacity and much superior accuracy than Hispanos. They also turn better than any American plane and are faster than most of its opponents.