We prorogue parliament every year and also every time we get a new government we suspend parliament before a queen’s speech, there is nothing unusual about this,
@@inquaanate2393 why didn't Johnson do this before the summer recess then? Or why didn't he make the suspension period only a few days as has happened in the past?
Twitter and Instagram are predominantly left wing (were as fb is a but more mainstream and full of boomers) and the majority of globalists tend to be on the left.
@Aaron Swan most of my family voted leave, thinking it was a good way to protest (not sure what they thought they were protesting against though, they are lifelong tories). They all signed the petition to revoke.
drummingtildeath Exactly. They didn’t know the consequences of their vote. Like playing with dynamite when you don’t understand the consequences of it exploding.
I'm not sure if I'd rather watch the political hell that's going in the UK or the actual hell going on here in Brazil. At least the UK crisis seems polite and orderly.
As someone from the US, I'm sick to death of Donald Trump. Clearly other countries are having big troubles as well, but the chance to see something else is irresistible.
I'm an American. I have no dog in this fight. Just honestly wondering. No one liked May's deal. Boris will probably not be able to cut a great deal from the EU either. So...No Deal Brexit, right? Dear Brexiteer: What makes you think you can negotiate awesome trade deals outside the EU if your negotiations thus far have been miserable? Your teams will suddenly get better? I simply don't understand.
Sssssttt don't ask tough questions to Brexiteers. They just call you out for being a project fear spreading remoaner. Anything to not accept reality is not as they were told by the great Brexit scam.
Take up some shorts. Might as well make some money if you can't change the outcome. I'm an American and that's what I've decided is my best response. 😏
Dear American, The resit of Europe is looking on in awe also. It seems a lunatic journalist and ex bankers and financiers who would gain from Brexit have frightened the peasants and waved union jacks to stoke fear and racism. The same people have become party leaders and Even prime minister on the fear tide as they had newspapers behind them. Now half the populace are desperate for an exit of the safety of the EU to a not so safe unknown place. It’s farcical and scary to see the mob.
There is no more deal to be cut. The stuff in the May's deal is 100% consequences of the conditions the UK set, EU gave everything they could, but they can't give stuff that contradicts the conditions, and the conditions were fucking bonkers, and Boris wants to have more self-contradicting conditions, so no, no deal can be made, because the conditions the UK is setting are logically impossible.
I'd prefer just no brexit it was a shit idea from the beginning. All the flag waving racist have had their turn now it's time to stop. Just go back to your working men's members only clubs to drink warm beer until you piss yourself and fall of your bar stool.
So the thing you've been talking about for MONTHS on this channel finally happens and it coincides with your birthday. There is OOOORDAAAA in the Universe...
This is a like some wierd choose your own story book. For vote of no confidence turn to page 45: For altered deal turn to page 72: For no deal turn to page 36:
@@randomdaveUK Even though this prorogation is clearly politically motivated, you do understand that the current parliament has been in session for well over two years while this supposedly unconstitutional democratic crisis of prorogation should occur by convention every twelve months? It's not the business of the public to vote about whether routines should be followed; this is a part of the English common law tradition, which is one of the key roots of the UK's political system. You can't call something a democratic crisis when a simple routine is followed by the book. You also have to keep in mind that the parliament has had those two years+ to organize a Brexit, but haven't been able to pull it through because of a combination of incompetence and unwillingness. The Queen is a Brexiteer herself, and has been since 2016 (She said that leaving the EU would be "no problem" and that "Britain should just get on with it", and that was in 2016). Are you seriously claiming that politicians following rules in parliament is a democratic crisis but the two and a half-years old Brexit referendum not being honored isn't?
The Colonel okay.... So, TLDR has not displayed any political views except one of a pro democratic one. Johnson is doing something way more undemocratic than the second referendum the conservative party was against for being undemocratic (which is a fair point) You are writing a pro democracy standpoint off as a political opinion, when it really shouldn’t be. To me that sounds like you want What you think is best for the country without any consern for What others think, which is self-righteous at best and dictatorial at worst
The Colonel so you want to break the system of a democracy for a referendum from 3 years ago where a slight majority want a brexit (not even a no deal one) And the parlementairians are directly elected (altough unfairly, but that’s another can of Worms) to represent the people. So by the way the uk works they are the foundation of the democracy Breaking the rules of a democracy is Very dangerous, the likes of Caesar, Hitler and Lenin got to power by people who broke the democracy by ignoreing the rules of them in a crisis
@The Colonel for that matter, why have so many elections, right? Once the people have voted for who should run the country once, it would be completely undemocratic to have another vote on the subject.
The Colonel i Will not argue that brexit needed to take 3 years (since it didn’t need to). But many representatives do not feel that a no deal / the deals that were in place were good enough to see them trough. In my opinion a nation shouldn’t strife to make one good decision and a bad one, but as many decisions that are good enough for (mostly) everyone. That is the strength of a well functioning democracy. Because if the government Goes trough with this, it Will send a president that prorogation is a method of taking care of opposition, which could be used against the people that use it now.
True, but some options are less unpopular. A Condorcet vote, by Parliament or by the electorate, could cut through this mess and find the option that's more popular when compared to each of the others.
@@rvanzo925 - what form of Brexit? It's a poor illustration but imagine people are given a choice of ice cream. The choice is Vanilla or Not Vanilla. 48% want Vanilla and 52% say Not Vanilla. Now, when it comes to choosing the actual ice cream - some say Strawberry, others say Chocolate (uck) and yet others say Raspberry. However no one can agree. The default is no ice cream at all. Who is happy with this? Certainly not the majority! That's the logic jam we have here. Given the above - vanilla is still the most preferred option out of all.
Just imagine any other job where you get a task, accomplish absolutly nothing in 3 years, and than take one moth off just two moth before the deadline (wich you already missed twice)...
To be fair, it's an impossible job...the initial vote lumped all brexiters into one group despite the fact that they don't agree with each other...no matter how Brexit is done, about 75% of the people would be pissed the fuck off. The remainers would be pissed off either way, but no-deal people get pissed off if there is a deal and deal-leave people get pissed off if there is no deal... How can anyone expect to make a decision when there are no good options?
@The Colonel "Deals will continue to be done"... Except if we leave the EU with no deal, we will lose the 50 free trade agreements we have with countries outside the EEA as well as those with EU countries, and be left with no deals at all. We will plunge ourselves into a desperate state, where we will need to make new trade agreements with other countries very quickly - desperation is never good in negotiations.
No need to apologise for being the voice of gloom; you're just being straightforward & realistic, which is a trait that's earmed you us 300k+ subscribers. Sorry about your birthday, but it's a bad day for all of us. Now I'm heading over to your store to pick out some new pins. TY.
All this stress about detached bits of countries missing from the pins is more than a little crazy. The US and Canada are both missing about a third of their landmasses on those pins.
Secretly, this is the REAL reason Boris Johnson asked the queen to prorogue parliament. You think England is in charge of England, but actually, it’s Blizzard.
As someone who is watching this happen from the outside, it seems like the natural outcome to things. No deal is supposed to be the default in the event that nothing could be worked out, which is what is happening right now. But Parliament is so grid locked that not even the default position can be attained, so this seems like a natural outcome.
@The Colonel so all leave voters actually voted for no deal? Not the deals Farage promised? Or the deal Liam Fox promised we'd get? That we'd be better off out than in, that's all fantasy now then? Seriously man, brexiteers now just want brexit at any cost. Half of leave voters disagree with what Boris has done, but want brexit. How about getting a good deal for the country? Just leaving because you hate the EU without any consideration for your fellow Britons is about as childish a reason for leaving as it gets. Those elected representative were reelected in 2017 AFTER the referendum. So if the people wanted a full leave parliament they would have voted for it. Or are you only in favour of supporting the referendum, not the election result??
@@Carl-hs420a depends on how you mean it i guess, by outweighing their vote great, disabling their vote not so much. One must always beware of authoritarianism no matter from where.
Why do you assume the EU will grant a delay? The EU was already divided on the previous request for a delay. Why do you assume the EU is willing to grant another delay? The UK has done nothing with the current delay. The first announcement after the delay was granted was for parliament to take leave. Over summer they took a long leave, and after return they will have a couple of days and they had planned to take another leave. From this perspective it's pretty ridiculous how much noise is made about proroguing parliament which results in only very little extra delay compared with all the leave they are already taking willingly. Without doubt some EU members will plead in support of a delay if the UK requests one, it's far from certain one will be granted, after all they all have to agree. Since november 14 2018 there is a published withdrawal agreement. The UK has to decide what they want. The options are very simple, accept the withdrawal agreement, leave without a deal or undo brexit. If the UK can't decide, and there is no reason to believe they would be more able to make a choice after general elections, everyone is better off if a decision is made for the UK. Make a choice or the passing of time will take care of it and eject the UK from th EU on october 31st.
What would happen if MPs just keep showing up to work anyway? (I mean, the doors of the palace of Westminster might be locked, but since parliament is the collection of MPs, they can just meet anywhere they feel like right?)
@@unlivethesystem8634 In that case it shouldn't have to to be shut down, because it has a balance of opinions. Parliament represents the interests of the British people, and removing it to attempt to force a no deal is outrageously undemocratic
@@nametab6415 This parliament was voted for way before the Brexit referendum. Do you remember which party won a crushing victory in the last EU election in may? The current parliament doesn`t even reflect the will of the people, let alone how they percieve their interests. Elitist MPs that worked so long to undermine the results of a democratic referendum don`t have the right to cry about lack of democracy even if that wasn`t a standard procedure. It is a constitutional monarchy after all.
Scotsman David Robertson has a much more balanced assessment: “The current parliamentary session has been running for two years (the longest since the English Civil War in the 17th Century). It was due to end anyway. The big concern for the anti-Brexit politicians is the timing. This will reduce the amount of time that they could debate Brexit. But only by three days!...those who are most upset are far more concerned about being in the EU than they are about democracy...They ignore the fact that the EU is fundamentally undemocratic...It’s the 2019 version of Millenium bug syndrome - remember when we were told that all the computer systems would break down, food would disappear and planes would fall out of the sky…etc...those who are cynically (or ignorantly) campaigning against the prorogation of parliament on the spurious grounds that they are defending democracy, are in actual fact campaigning to negate democracy - by preventing the implementation of the biggest democratic vote in UK history and by handing over our parliamentary sovereignty to an unelected, unaccountable, supranational body. I pray they don’t succeed.”
They couldn't get anything done last year, when May did not prorogue during the usual conference season. So BoJo probably thought, "Eh fuck it, might as well close shop and be done with it"
Not enough, apparently. They need to be prorogued more until they understand they need to obey the people, not rich multinational businesses with deep pockets.
Well not all of it is actual time off. The summer recess has other reasons, including members of parliament hitting their local districts. There's also a slew of party conferences coming up, all of which normally wouldn't be a big thing (or most people wouldn't even notice). The problem lies with essentially nothing happening in the last 2,5+ years, combined with the current madness of seemingly everybody on all sides of the argument kicking the can along till the absolute, last possible time. Parliament could have skipped, or changed the length of, their summer recess, instead everything went along as normal as the opposition (well lets be honest here, Labour) couldn't get their ducks in a row. The summer recess was most likely the only chance they had to let calmer heads try and sort out a unified vote of no confidence............
@@CellGames2006 you have no idea how economically damaging this will be do you? They are obeying the will of the people. The people who dont want to go through a large recession when the US economy is about to have one, which could weaken the world economy as well. That's a dangerous combo. Youd be foolish to think Brexit will be beneficial
CellGames2006 brexit doesn’t benefit large, international businesses. Honestly, it will likely kill the smaller multi-nationals in the UK or in the EU. They’re listening to the vote of a poorly informed public 3 years ago.
I have zero dog in the fight (American) but i am fascinated and have such studied on the outcomes as an economist as a mental exercise for a long while now. Honestly, while no deal might have a few issues especially in the short term. In the end it will be most likely be better for you in the long term. I can not see any deal that would be a good outcome at this point as you lost a lot of your leverage. I know you want to stay in the EU which is why you blocked everything as much as you could but you cut off your nose to spite your face. You could have had power to control deal. A revote will most likely be a horrible idea as you will have civil unrest no matter who wins. It could seriously lead to something awful. Your best option would have said screw it lets not fight it...get negotiation power for a good deal or just have won the first referendum. As an example..... In America, Obama wanted to desperately pass the Affordable care act but did not have the votes really. So Harry Reid basically changed the rules on how the bill got through in pieces. All it needed now was a simple majority. This motion has now led us down a terrible path. This isn't a indictment on the bill or Obamacare really but the process that now has our country more divided and divisive than in a long long time. Rarely is bipartisan or negotiation taking place where both sides having to make a compromises. Why because you just need to campaign and get a simple majority. You never need to reach out to other points of view just win elections. So it becomes twitter feeds, facebook and public opinion polls . Basically few minor but vocal people controlling the narrative and pushing extreme political viewpoint on both sides of aisle. Heed my warning you may win the battle but ultimately lose the war
There is another way out, which Johnson would have a hard time blocking. Have a vote of no confidence then all the leaders of the opposition parties go to the EU and asked for a delay because of the election. The EU offered last time to delay in the event of an election so I don't see why they wouldn't do so again. The election could then be used to resolve the Brexit question once and for all.
we already had that election in 2017. Conservatives formed a government which promised leaving with or without a deal with no-deal being the option if a deal wasn't good enough.
we can have it again but i expect Conservatives would do better this time around without 'strong and stable' Theresa May saying fox hunting is on the cards.
You know, in the Weimar Republic (1918-1933) the German President could also "close" the parliament, tho this led to the unlimeted Power for Hitler to do whatever he wanted
Abit harsh us brits in general havn't had much control of the metaphorical sledge since the referendum. I voted to leave i wasn't sure about it at the time and I'm leaning on remain now. The sledge driving since we pushed it down the slope as been done by MP''s. You could argue I'm simple facing the consequences of my decision but as alpha pointed out some people didn't vote for brexit not just people who voted remain but kids who still can't vote, people who simple didn't vote and people who were to young to vote at the time. If our country can be said to have collective karma (I deny there can be such a thing but it works as short hand) then I see what you mean,.
I really hate brexitteers but you have to understand. We don't want the UK to be the anker of the EU since it seems like a large part of your population are not team players anymore. I still hope that the British people open themselves up to diplomacy and democracy across borders though.
If there were a way to just give the Leavers their Brexit and leave everyone else alone, then I'd agree. Life changing complex political decisions should never depend on simple majorities either.
Weren't there times in English history where the monarch tried to shut down parliament but parliament meet secretly and then told him to fuck off? They should do that again. Since the queen decided to ignore democracy maybe they should just get rid of her tbh, it's about damn time. Or like, maybe force her to give up the rest of her powers. Magna carta part 2: electric boogaloo
@@Josh-xz4ec Sam tyler The Leave vote consisted of Leave with various deals and No Deal voters. It took both of those positions together to have a majority over remain. We may have voted to leave in the advisory referendum, but we most certainly did not vote for No Deal.
I think UK needs to go through no deal scenario. It is quite obvious that you dont hold any of your politicians accountable for anything. So the pain needs to be felt. A hard lesson and a tragic one, but necessary. As an added bonus, EU can proceed with real problems, not temper tantrums of one delusional nation.
@@kvandermeersch5753 Noobs, in Spain we had a PM for a few hours. He was appointed, he tried to stop the Civil War, he failed and he resigned during that time.
The data of the poll they used was horribly bias using phasing of the question that suggests an attempt to skew results to using a weighted average by ignoring the 20% of Survey responders who responded with "unsure". It was really a poor showing by the telegraph.
Thank you for calling out how much of a constitutional crisis this is. I know it must have been hard for you as a journalist to say it out loud, as you're always trying to be neutral. Your honesty is appreciated and I wish we had more journalists like you. Also, happy birthday!
Leave: EU is undemocratic. Democratic vote: we're leaving. Parliament: delays and refuses to leave. Boris: uses legal mechanism to suspend parliament in order to force parliament to stop blocking the results of democratic vote. Remainers: complain about using the monarchy to leave, while also using the monarchy to formally beg the queen to block a no deal.
@@puffaliaz Since when did Parliament refuse to Leave? How is it proroguing Parliament in a Parliamentary Democracy democratic? When did we have a vote on no deal?
@@Cervando there was a vote to leave. No deal is the default option, the only thing guaranteed by Art.50. Having a deal in place for when the separation happens is optional (though preferable). Delaying the leave date is of questionable legality, and doing it repeatedly with no clear exit plan is horrific. The actions of the parliment clearly hows that they aren't going to do anything but kick the can down the road as much as they can, which is clearly against the result of the referendum. Involving the monarchy is clearly a last resort, and houldn't be done in a modern democracy, but at least it is just extending something that happens legally anyways, and is oly being used to stop further interference... as opposed to the remain camp who have for the last few months said they'd use a "humble address" to the queen to stop a no deal brexit (which is essentially asking the queen to step in and actually take legally binding action)
@@Cervando If proroguing parliament is not democratic why are there rules in place to make it possible? Virtually the entire extension granted by the EU parliament has chosen to take leave, but if they are forced to do so for a only tiny little longer through rules that parliament presumably put in place itself they start screaming..........
Yes, because decisions and debates don't take time, conducting research to map out consequences of actions is quite frankly irrelevant and to be fair the country did vote for brexit so it's what the people want, we just have to ignore the fact that not all brexiters want no deal, but frankly are they really true patriots? If only every country could just scrap democracy. None of that sounds bad at all does it?
To be fair, it's an impossible job...the initial vote lumped all brexiters into one group despite the fact that they don't agree with each other...no matter how Brexit is done, about 75% of the people would be pissed the fuck off. The remainers would be pissed off either way, but no-deal people get pissed off if there is a deal and deal-leave people get pissed off if there is no deal... How can anyone expect to make a decision when there are no good options? The initial vote was very much flawed and these 3 years are a result of having a flawed vote.
I would like to see a video dedicated to whether pushing to remain, pushing for a second referredum, or pushing to revoke article 50 is democratic or not. If this channel is genuinely impartial, there should not be a problem with this.
Yeah, but this time it will be Boris' deal and will be a completely new and much improved deal that just happens to be identical in every word to May's deal.
So my understanding is that Queen Elizabeth really did not have an option regarding this, as the role of the Crown is Ceremonial in nature now. Was there any solid reasoning for expecting her to not agree besides wishing so?
Yes, the crown's appointee for ceremonial stuff in Canada said no to arbitrary prorogation back in 2011. Then again, prorogation in the first part of a new government's term is standard practice in Britain, so you could say the only arbitrary part of this was the start date (or maybe the end date, I don't know how queen's speeches are scheduled). It is possible (but will probably never be known for sure) that the exact dates which seem less than optimal for BoJo were chosen due to some communication on reasonable limits between the crown and the new government.
@@TrabberShir Thanks! I had forgotten about the arbitrary suspension being denied in 2011. I guess my gut feeling is that as a Head of State, one would either say "if you are confident in resolving issues in that short of time, you can do so without dissolving parliament." Ah well.
Hello from Australia. Brexit is the greatest show on Earth, every episode is better than the last; I just can’t look away (unlike the Ashes which I’m happy to look away from after I accidentally dropped the remote control onto the wall the other night). I’m sure that whatever happens with Brexit, Great Britain will be fine. You’re the 5th largest economy, have a permanent seat on the Security Council, you’re nuclear powered and therefore heading towards zero net CO2 emissions. Once you’re out, you’ll have countries queuing around the block (including mine) to sign a trade agreement with you. In, or out of Europe, I’m sure you’ll flourish.
@Noel F nice comment mate, we are in trouble when Tim Paine gets the hang of the review system!. I think we'd be better off using an Aussie and a Brit for umpiring. cheers
Boris has to restart Parliament as Mays Treaty has already failed the maximum amount of times in one session. So in a new session he can sprinkle Mays Treaty that the EU wrote, which was the worse thing ever, with Magic Boris dust and represent it to the house, vote for this or its No Deal. He can do that three times before he turns to us and says here's Brexit accept the Treaty or there's no Brexit.
France and Belgium already have legislation in the pipeline that eases transition for financial sector companies, plus a few tax breaks here and there. And they aren't quite about it either. They openly flirt with any company that can't afford to exit the market but is in the UK right now :)
What a cruddy birthday present! Hope the rest of the day makes up for it! Thanks for the usual clear and concise Brexit update, your channel has been a life saver during this whole charade.
When discussing the shape of the Earth, would an impartial person just say there are people who claim that it is an oblong spheroid, and (a handful of) others who say it is a flat disc? Or would they point out that all the facts support the first group, and that the second group is therefore certifiably insane? I have seen nothing in this video that isn't wholly supported by objectively verifiable facts.
Pretty soon the videos will just be about the merch and dropping links to buy said merch. The ads for the merch will be interrupted with ads for merch and more begging for money.
Those anti-government MPs should lock themselves in a room, have a Condorcet vote on whom (if anyone) to pick, release themselves once they've decided and stick to this next time they're in Westminster. In fact, the whole "indicative votes" episode could have been more constructive with a Condorcet system. In fact, the electorate could decide on which particular outcome they want through a Condorcet referendum!
The other parties, especially the Lib Dems, need to get over themselves. They're all stroking their egos. Corybn has the largest opposition behind him, and without Labour the temporary government would 0% chance of being a reality.
According to Dominic Grieve's recent amendment parliament can't be suspended more than 2 weeks, but how did they get Queen's consent for suspension of parliament for 4 weeks??
TLDR News, I was wondering if parliament during the prorogation, would be legally allowed to convene as a group elsewhere? After all, they might not officially be in sitting, but they could all turn up for a lunch in the park surely?
Pretty much, she acts based on the advise of her government.. if she went roque it would put the monarchy in danger. (Even more than by going along with Johnson)
@@Josh-xz4ec Subverting our democratic process to force a No Deal is what's undemocratic. If we must leave, fine. But do so democratically so that the method of our leaving is fair to the people. Perhaps that might mean No Deal eventually, but more likely it would mean some kind of a deal. Still leaving, but leaving democratically. Forcing No Deal through this way makes a mockery of us all.
@@Josh-xz4ec the leave campaign had help from cambridge analytica and was fueled by lies. Not to mention that people thought it would be leagues easier than it is. And now BoJo needs to cancel parliament to get a no-deal through. It's almost as if this is resulting in something that nobody wants but we have to go through with it because of ignorant boulder-heads like you who cant look yoursel fin the mirror to realise this is manipulated top to bottom. This whole thing is illegitimate.
Once upon a time in Germany (1933) on a beautiful March day a certain party came to true power trough fiddling with parliament that changed the world... Thank god those absurd days are over. Right? Right....? Right.............?
Not a single german back then voted to be obliterated in a war. This time it might be an economic obliteration... Perhaps equally divisive and destructive in a 2019 climate.
Happy birthday. Also so much thanks for videos being so constant and provide so much needed info. Like progrouging and telling us 2 months before anyone else knows about it.
So what do you think will be a better solution. There needs to be new parliaments periodically with new plans and objectives laid out especially with a change of government. There cannot be set terms for parliaments as important legislation may end up not passing in time (this one due to brexit was 50% longer than any other in 400 years). I guess parliament itself could vote on its own suspension however I'll be curious whether that could interfere with the government's ability to govern by prematurely ending or delaying suspensions.
It's not exactly a true statement if it hasn't been done for 70 years. Also, that statement does sound remarkably like Trump's "My tax returns are under audit and I unfortunately can't show them" - just the cheapest excuse he could find for ending democracy.
@@oliverlane9716 Why couldn't parliament do it? A government needs a majority anyway, so why would a governments majority vote against its own interests?
@@oliverlane9716 Prorogation has also been used historically for PMs to avoid parliamentary oversight (usually involving parliamentary investigations into corrupt behaviour of the PM). Generally during times of national crisis prorogation is made as short as possible (i.e. no more than 1 day) to ensure parliament is able to deal with the crisis. Boris's ill-timed (why didn't he prorogue right when he came to power?) and inappropriately long (don't take a week off right before a major deadline) prorogation is obviously designed to maximally disrupt attempts by parliament to block a No Deal while still letting him pretend that that is not the main goal of it.
This episode of The Brexit Show is ridiculous. This show has jumped the shark. I think audience popularity is going to fall off before the season finale.
Happy belated birthday. To honor the anniversary of your birth, I let all the ads for this video play to the end, ensuring full monetization for you. You're welcome.
I think this gentleman made a mistake by breaking with his usual dispassionate presentation of the facts to rant about the supposed insanity of this development. It doesn’t seem “insane” to me, an outside observer. It seems like what is necessary to make progress.
I think there’s some MPs who are looking into the ‘advice’ Johnson gave the Queen (the Queen has to act on the Prime Minister’s advice) into whether or not it was valid. (Correct me if I’m wrong and this isn’t the case.)
@The Colonel if the queen has to act on the advice of the prime minister. Why shouldnt parliament act in the advice of the people? Which a referendum isnt, by the way. They could have taken a simple poll if they wanted "advice".
Bustaperizm Banks will throw in more russian cash grabbed out of the tax haven of Britain, launder it and say it came from a deal he declared as a no gain sale to the tax man. Brexit was paid for. Follow the money.
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Happy birthday. I got you a democratic crisis. Hope you don't have one yet.
My favourite!
@@SallyBlumCGN We are still talking about the UK not the DPRK
We prorogue parliament every year and also every time we get a new government we suspend parliament before a queen’s speech, there is nothing unusual about this,
@@inquaanate2393 why didn't Johnson do this before the summer recess then? Or why didn't he make the suspension period only a few days as has happened in the past?
Even if he has got one, I guarantee it isn't like this one...
5:11 _"...so it does seem that our audience is a little divided."_
John Bercow: DIVISION! Clear the lobby!
It's not divided. Facebook is just easier (and more popular) to bot-swarm...
Hahaha best comment on this page!
Twitter and Instagram are predominantly left wing (were as fb is a but more mainstream and full of boomers) and the majority of globalists tend to be on the left.
@@QemeH he said it's been shared with UKIP groups, so people with different opinions ... you know that's not bot swarming right.
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Cheers! You're welcome.
Ironic how the vote was about the EU but so far it's only exposed the broken system we have here
@Aaron Swan or they could have held protests
@Aaron Swan Lazy.
UK system of government isn't broken.
@Aaron Swan most of my family voted leave, thinking it was a good way to protest (not sure what they thought they were protesting against though, they are lifelong tories).
They all signed the petition to revoke.
drummingtildeath Exactly. They didn’t know the consequences of their vote. Like playing with dynamite when you don’t understand the consequences of it exploding.
every time I am sick with italian politics and politicians I come here and I start feeling better...
Underrated.
same here for Greek politics its getting a bit boring nowdays... this season of Brexit seems to be moving on a explosive ending!
I'm not sure if I'd rather watch the political hell that's going in the UK or the actual hell going on here in Brazil. At least the UK crisis seems polite and orderly.
As someone from the US, I'm sick to death of Donald Trump. Clearly other countries are having big troubles as well, but the chance to see something else is irresistible.
I'm sick to death with Egyptian politics, as in, everyone is in prison
So I watch the UK shitshow instead lmao
I'm an American. I have no dog in this fight. Just honestly wondering.
No one liked May's deal. Boris will probably not be able to cut a great deal from the EU either. So...No Deal Brexit, right?
Dear Brexiteer: What makes you think you can negotiate awesome trade deals outside the EU if your negotiations thus far have been miserable? Your teams will suddenly get better? I simply don't understand.
Sssssttt don't ask tough questions to Brexiteers. They just call you out for being a project fear spreading remoaner. Anything to not accept reality is not as they were told by the great Brexit scam.
Take up some shorts. Might as well make some money if you can't change the outcome. I'm an American and that's what I've decided is my best response. 😏
Dear American,
The resit of Europe is looking on in awe also. It seems a lunatic journalist and ex bankers and financiers who would gain from Brexit have frightened the peasants and waved union jacks to stoke fear and racism. The same people have become party leaders and Even prime minister on the fear tide as they had newspapers behind them.
Now half the populace are desperate for an exit of the safety of the EU to a not so safe unknown place.
It’s farcical and scary to see the mob.
There is no more deal to be cut. The stuff in the May's deal is 100% consequences of the conditions the UK set, EU gave everything they could, but they can't give stuff that contradicts the conditions, and the conditions were fucking bonkers, and Boris wants to have more self-contradicting conditions, so no, no deal can be made, because the conditions the UK is setting are logically impossible.
I'd prefer just no brexit it was a shit idea from the beginning. All the flag waving racist have had their turn now it's time to stop. Just go back to your working men's members only clubs to drink warm beer until you piss yourself and fall of your bar stool.
I'm here so early they haven't changed the title from the file name yet
Same
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@@jono_high Still not changed :D
So the thing you've been talking about for MONTHS on this channel finally happens and it coincides with your birthday.
There is OOOORDAAAA in the Universe...
TL:DR really pulls the strings in this country..... its the only way he could get such a great present from ol BorisBoy 👌 its a conspirisahhh!!!!
Mate, if you read revelations... the fuckening is coming!
This comment cannot be upvoted enough times.
This is a like some wierd choose your own story book.
For vote of no confidence turn to page 45:
For altered deal turn to page 72:
For no deal turn to page 36:
It bothers me that you didn't list the options sorted by page number. xD
For extension of Article 50, turn back to page 2
To revoke Article 50 throw the stupid Brexit Book away 📕🗑
Only problem is that you can't just go back and pick a different choice if you don't like the outcome.
I want that, with all possible paths! (After the fact, of course.)
"it is easy to forget how mental this actually is"
happy birthday, Democracies are messy things, but does make for great drama.
Britain ceased to be a democracy in June 2016.
Say hello to the world's largest ochlocracy
Let's give a HUGE credit to TLDR for staying calm and as unbiased as a human can be in such dire situation, I salute you.
@TheBaconHunter doesn't matter. 50% of leave voters disagree with proroguing parliament
@TheBaconHunter This is the point: he kept a high bar of being unbiased despite having a stance. Try doing that yourself next time
To be fair it's impossible to be completely unbiased but TLDR do a good job of presenting the facts as dispassionately as possible
@@randomdaveUK Even though this prorogation is clearly politically motivated, you do understand that the current parliament has been in session for well over two years while this supposedly unconstitutional democratic crisis of prorogation should occur by convention every twelve months? It's not the business of the public to vote about whether routines should be followed; this is a part of the English common law tradition, which is one of the key roots of the UK's political system. You can't call something a democratic crisis when a simple routine is followed by the book.
You also have to keep in mind that the parliament has had those two years+ to organize a Brexit, but haven't been able to pull it through because of a combination of incompetence and unwillingness. The Queen is a Brexiteer herself, and has been since 2016 (She said that leaving the EU would be "no problem" and that "Britain should just get on with it", and that was in 2016). Are you seriously claiming that politicians following rules in parliament is a democratic crisis but the two and a half-years old Brexit referendum not being honored isn't?
@@Aircalibur then why not only proroge for 4 days and get back to work?
You know this is serious when TLDR feel the need to remind people that this is, in fact, "insane".
The Colonel okay....
So, TLDR has not displayed any political views except one of a pro democratic one.
Johnson is doing something way more undemocratic than the second referendum the conservative party was against for being undemocratic (which is a fair point)
You are writing a pro democracy standpoint off as a political opinion, when it really shouldn’t be.
To me that sounds like you want What you think is best for the country without any consern for What others think, which is self-righteous at best and dictatorial at worst
The Colonel so you want to break the system of a democracy for a referendum from 3 years ago where a slight majority want a brexit (not even a no deal one)
And the parlementairians are directly elected (altough unfairly, but that’s another can of Worms) to represent the people. So by the way the uk works they are the foundation of the democracy
Breaking the rules of a democracy is Very dangerous, the likes of Caesar, Hitler and Lenin got to power by people who broke the democracy by ignoreing the rules of them in a crisis
@The Colonel for that matter, why have so many elections, right? Once the people have voted for who should run the country once, it would be completely undemocratic to have another vote on the subject.
The Colonel i Will not argue that brexit needed to take 3 years (since it didn’t need to). But many representatives do not feel that a no deal / the deals that were in place were good enough to see them trough. In my opinion a nation shouldn’t strife to make one good decision and a bad one, but as many decisions that are good enough for (mostly) everyone. That is the strength of a well functioning democracy.
Because if the government Goes trough with this, it Will send a president that prorogation is a method of taking care of opposition, which could be used against the people that use it now.
Ye it's almost like the bloke running this isn't almost definitely a remainer left wing snowflake
You know when someone as balanced and impartial as TLDR says something is crazy, sh*t just got real!
Balanced, yes.
Impartial, no.
The trouble is there is no majority in parliament for any outcome. So any result is "against parliament".
True, but some options are less unpopular. A Condorcet vote, by Parliament or by the electorate, could cut through this mess and find the option that's more popular when compared to each of the others.
We only know what’s popular by vote, polls have a tendency to be quite wrong. The vote was Brexit.
There is a majority in Parliament and in the country to leave the EU. We must leave the EU.
@@rvanzo925 - what form of Brexit? It's a poor illustration but imagine people are given a choice of ice cream. The choice is Vanilla or Not Vanilla. 48% want Vanilla and 52% say Not Vanilla. Now, when it comes to choosing the actual ice cream - some say Strawberry, others say Chocolate (uck) and yet others say Raspberry. However no one can agree. The default is no ice cream at all. Who is happy with this? Certainly not the majority!
That's the logic jam we have here. Given the above - vanilla is still the most preferred option out of all.
Boo Hoo Hoo. Waa Waa Waa.
I wasn't a fan of the Brexit show at first, but it hooked me in Season 2 and now Season 3 has me glued
Do you think they'll get a season 4 after October or do you think it will end with season 3?
@@MrCaptainRoscoe Season 3 is gonna be the end, but there's going to be a sequel series for sure
Season 4 is going to be the best. Lots of action, lots of blood and tears.
It was only supposed to run for two seasons.
Just imagine any other job where you get a task, accomplish absolutly nothing in 3 years, and than take one moth off just two moth before the deadline (wich you already missed twice)...
We basically name it studies 🤣
To be fair, it's an impossible job...the initial vote lumped all brexiters into one group despite the fact that they don't agree with each other...no matter how Brexit is done, about 75% of the people would be pissed the fuck off. The remainers would be pissed off either way, but no-deal people get pissed off if there is a deal and deal-leave people get pissed off if there is no deal...
How can anyone expect to make a decision when there are no good options?
My GCSEs oof
@The Colonel The problem is that the public didn't specify HOW they wanted to leave. Which is kind of a big fucking deal.
@The Colonel "Deals will continue to be done"... Except if we leave the EU with no deal, we will lose the 50 free trade agreements we have with countries outside the EEA as well as those with EU countries, and be left with no deals at all. We will plunge ourselves into a desperate state, where we will need to make new trade agreements with other countries very quickly - desperation is never good in negotiations.
Birthdays are suspended from yesterday until October 14th.
😂😆🥰
Lucky mine is Oct 15th :-)
No need to apologise for being the voice of gloom; you're just being straightforward & realistic, which is a trait that's earmed you us 300k+ subscribers. Sorry about your birthday, but it's a bad day for all of us. Now I'm heading over to your store to pick out some new pins. TY.
As a Tasmanian, thanks for including us in the Australia pin!
As an Australian I am worried that this new power/status will go to your head.
Btw I’m from melbourne
You are lucky! Sicily and Sardinia were not in the old Italian pin, so I couldn't buy it even if I wanted!
@@andreanari3341 Sicily is much bigger than Tassie. I'm surprised they missed it.
Who is this barbarian?
All this stress about detached bits of countries missing from the pins is more than a little crazy. The US and Canada are both missing about a third of their landmasses on those pins.
Imagine being an MP right now, WoW classic launches during recess, then they get another month off, talk about Pro-Rogues!
LOL..
Secretly, this is the REAL reason Boris Johnson asked the queen to prorogue parliament. You think England is in charge of England, but actually, it’s Blizzard.
Even Theresa May didn't do this… And here we thought it couldn't get worse!
As someone who is watching this happen from the outside, it seems like the natural outcome to things. No deal is supposed to be the default in the event that nothing could be worked out, which is what is happening right now. But Parliament is so grid locked that not even the default position can be attained, so this seems like a natural outcome.
While few people liked May, I don't think there are many people who thought Boris Johnson would make a *better* PM!
Theresa May was a reaminer. She either was incompetent to wage negotiations with the EU overlords or sabotaged them on purpose to delay Brexit.
@fireson23 I think Boris is giving a very good example how. By not bending the knee to them.
Hahahaha, omg, “take back control” they said.
Hilarious.
I mean the government is taking back control, they just didn't mention, that from the eu meant they included the British people as well.
@@willowarkan2263 😂
taking back control from the remoaners is a good start
@The Colonel so all leave voters actually voted for no deal? Not the deals Farage promised? Or the deal Liam Fox promised we'd get? That we'd be better off out than in, that's all fantasy now then?
Seriously man, brexiteers now just want brexit at any cost.
Half of leave voters disagree with what Boris has done, but want brexit.
How about getting a good deal for the country? Just leaving because you hate the EU without any consideration for your fellow Britons is about as childish a reason for leaving as it gets.
Those elected representative were reelected in 2017 AFTER the referendum. So if the people wanted a full leave parliament they would have voted for it. Or are you only in favour of supporting the referendum, not the election result??
@@Carl-hs420a depends on how you mean it i guess, by outweighing their vote great, disabling their vote not so much. One must always beware of authoritarianism no matter from where.
Happy birthday I guess, bet you didn't want THAT surprise.
Orange versus Orangutan in the next great episode of - Idiots of the World.
When Harper was PM of Canada he used Prorogation to shut down Parliament for six months
Dennis Cambly Did anybody notice?
@@XalphYT yes and he was tossed out of office by calling an election
Why do you assume the EU will grant a delay? The EU was already divided on the previous request for a delay. Why do you assume the EU is willing to grant another delay? The UK has done nothing with the current delay. The first announcement after the delay was granted was for parliament to take leave. Over summer they took a long leave, and after return they will have a couple of days and they had planned to take another leave. From this perspective it's pretty ridiculous how much noise is made about proroguing parliament which results in only very little extra delay compared with all the leave they are already taking willingly. Without doubt some EU members will plead in support of a delay if the UK requests one, it's far from certain one will be granted, after all they all have to agree.
Since november 14 2018 there is a published withdrawal agreement. The UK has to decide what they want. The options are very simple, accept the withdrawal agreement, leave without a deal or undo brexit. If the UK can't decide, and there is no reason to believe they would be more able to make a choice after general elections, everyone is better off if a decision is made for the UK. Make a choice or the passing of time will take care of it and eject the UK from th EU on october 31st.
The biggest birthday gift from Boris Johnson, the biggest plot twist
Plot twist? Didnt we all saw it coming since season 2 started?
The idea was being kicked around in June, and members of Johnson's cabinet were saying it wouldn't happen.... Yeah, right.
Please don’t show your opinion - the comments at the end weren’t necessary. Really want a neutral source for reliable news!
What would happen if MPs just keep showing up to work anyway?
(I mean, the doors of the palace of Westminster might be locked, but since parliament is the collection of MPs, they can just meet anywhere they feel like right?)
Rory Yeung
Correct. Bercow mentioned this when discussing prorogation earlier; he said that if parliament wanted to meet, it could do it wherever.
You act like all of the parliament is opposing No deal. Do you realise how far from reality this is? Even the opposition itself is not united.
@@unlivethesystem8634 In that case it shouldn't have to to be shut down, because it has a balance of opinions. Parliament represents the interests of the British people, and removing it to attempt to force a no deal is outrageously undemocratic
@@nametab6415 This parliament was voted for way before the Brexit referendum. Do you remember which party won a crushing victory in the last EU election in may?
The current parliament doesn`t even reflect the will of the people, let alone how they percieve their interests. Elitist MPs that worked so long to undermine the results of a democratic referendum don`t have the right to cry about lack of democracy even if that wasn`t a standard procedure. It is a constitutional monarchy after all.
I doubt the cabinate would be there and you can't discuss much without the opposition being there.
UKIP only uses Facebook 🙄
Color me surprised
Well they are prob banned from twitter for not being insane
Because only people with no real friends use any other social media.
Scotsman David Robertson has a much more balanced assessment: “The current parliamentary session has been running for two years (the longest since the English Civil War in the 17th Century). It was due to end anyway. The big concern for the anti-Brexit politicians is the timing. This will reduce the amount of time that they could debate Brexit. But only by three days!...those who are most upset are far more concerned about being in the EU than they are about democracy...They ignore the fact that the EU is fundamentally undemocratic...It’s the 2019 version of Millenium bug syndrome - remember when we were told that all the computer systems would break down, food would disappear and planes would fall out of the sky…etc...those who are cynically (or ignorantly) campaigning against the prorogation of parliament on the spurious grounds that they are defending democracy, are in actual fact campaigning to negate democracy - by preventing the implementation of the biggest democratic vote in UK history and by handing over our parliamentary sovereignty to an unelected, unaccountable, supranational body. I pray they don’t succeed.”
How many hollidays to these people get! No wonder were not getting anywhere. Parliament must be closed more than it is open.
They couldn't get anything done last year, when May did not prorogue during the usual conference season. So BoJo probably thought, "Eh fuck it, might as well close shop and be done with it"
Not enough, apparently. They need to be prorogued more until they understand they need to obey the people, not rich multinational businesses with deep pockets.
Well not all of it is actual time off. The summer recess has other reasons, including members of parliament hitting their local districts. There's also a slew of party conferences coming up, all of which normally wouldn't be a big thing (or most people wouldn't even notice). The problem lies with essentially nothing happening in the last 2,5+ years, combined with the current madness of seemingly everybody on all sides of the argument kicking the can along till the absolute, last possible time.
Parliament could have skipped, or changed the length of, their summer recess, instead everything went along as normal as the opposition (well lets be honest here, Labour) couldn't get their ducks in a row. The summer recess was most likely the only chance they had to let calmer heads try and sort out a unified vote of no confidence............
@@CellGames2006 you have no idea how economically damaging this will be do you? They are obeying the will of the people. The people who dont want to go through a large recession when the US economy is about to have one, which could weaken the world economy as well. That's a dangerous combo. Youd be foolish to think Brexit will be beneficial
CellGames2006 brexit doesn’t benefit large, international businesses. Honestly, it will likely kill the smaller multi-nationals in the UK or in the EU. They’re listening to the vote of a poorly informed public 3 years ago.
I have zero dog in the fight (American) but i am fascinated and have such studied on the outcomes as an economist as a mental exercise for a long while now.
Honestly, while no deal might have a few issues especially in the short term. In the end it will be most likely be better for you in the long term.
I can not see any deal that would be a good outcome at this point as you lost a lot of your leverage.
I know you want to stay in the EU which is why you blocked everything as much as you could but you cut off your nose to spite your face. You could have had power to control deal.
A revote will most likely be a horrible idea as you will have civil unrest no matter who wins. It could seriously lead to something awful.
Your best option would have said screw it lets not fight it...get negotiation power for a good deal or just have won the first referendum.
As an example.....
In America, Obama wanted to desperately pass the Affordable care act but did not have the votes really. So Harry Reid basically changed the rules on how the bill got through in pieces. All it needed now was a simple majority. This motion has now led us down a terrible path. This isn't a indictment on the bill or Obamacare really but the process that now has our country more divided and divisive than in a long long time.
Rarely is bipartisan or negotiation taking place where both sides having to make a compromises. Why because you just need to campaign and get a simple majority. You never need to reach out to other points of view just win elections. So it becomes twitter feeds, facebook and public opinion polls . Basically few minor but vocal people controlling the narrative and pushing extreme political viewpoint on both sides of aisle.
Heed my warning you may win the battle but ultimately lose the war
no deal is not a short term solution, it's a long term solution, an economic speed bump into a brave new frontier for the British people.
Fair play for doing it on your birthday. Happy birthday have a good one 👍🏻
There is another way out, which Johnson would have a hard time blocking. Have a vote of no confidence then all the leaders of the opposition parties go to the EU and asked for a delay because of the election. The EU offered last time to delay in the event of an election so I don't see why they wouldn't do so again. The election could then be used to resolve the Brexit question once and for all.
we already had that election in 2017. Conservatives formed a government which promised leaving with or without a deal with no-deal being the option if a deal wasn't good enough.
we can have it again but i expect Conservatives would do better this time around without 'strong and stable' Theresa May saying fox hunting is on the cards.
You know, in the Weimar Republic (1918-1933) the German President could also "close" the parliament, tho this led to the unlimeted Power for Hitler to do whatever he wanted
2019 we are still asking Europe and Germany what we can do.
Happy Birthday, shame you had to come in on your birthday to do such a dire video
Brexiteer and proud right here bring on halloween!
Dire is the word. Your rant at the end undermines any impartiality you may have had. Bad move Jack.
At this point UK really deserves a no deal brexit
At least 48% of the electorate don't.
Abit harsh us brits in general havn't had much control of the metaphorical sledge since the referendum. I voted to leave i wasn't sure about it at the time and I'm leaning on remain now. The sledge driving since we pushed it down the slope as been done by MP''s. You could argue I'm simple facing the consequences of my decision but as alpha pointed out some people didn't vote for brexit not just people who voted remain but kids who still can't vote, people who simple didn't vote and people who were to young to vote at the time. If our country can be said to have collective karma (I deny there can be such a thing but it works as short hand) then I see what you mean,.
I really hate brexitteers but you have to understand. We don't want the UK to be the anker of the EU since it seems like a large part of your population are not team players anymore. I still hope that the British people open themselves up to diplomacy and democracy across borders though.
well, since they are not a working democracy, they are not welcome in the EU.
If there were a way to just give the Leavers their Brexit and leave everyone else alone, then I'd agree. Life changing complex political decisions should never depend on simple majorities either.
I just wanted to mention that the automatic subtitles translates your web url at 0:53 as "Tod on new Skoda UK" and I think that's brilliant.
Fine moters skoda faster than a miniy cooper
Weren't there times in English history where the monarch tried to shut down parliament but parliament meet secretly and then told him to fuck off?
They should do that again.
Since the queen decided to ignore democracy maybe they should just get rid of her tbh, it's about damn time.
Or like, maybe force her to give up the rest of her powers.
Magna carta part 2: electric boogaloo
Parliament is there to carry out the will of the people & the people want Brexit.
Why does everyone think that the EU will grant a extension? Maybe they have enough and wont extend it?
EU shouldn't grant an extension, we voted to leave, That's what's gonna happen.
@@Josh-xz4ec Sam tyler The Leave vote consisted of Leave with various deals and No Deal voters. It took both of those positions together to have a majority over remain.
We may have voted to leave in the advisory referendum, but we most certainly did not vote for No Deal.
I think UK needs to go through no deal scenario. It is quite obvious that you dont hold any of your politicians accountable for anything. So the pain needs to be felt. A hard lesson and a tragic one, but necessary. As an added bonus, EU can proceed with real problems, not temper tantrums of one delusional nation.
The nail knocked right on the head! Very well put
BJ is trying to become the shortest-term UK PM ever. General election before 2020, yes or no?
He has 82 days left to beat the record of George Canning, it seems to me that the odds are in BJ's favor to accomplish this marvelous goal!
I said it before, but my "5-PM-year" bet is looking stronger every day :)
@HazardousPleb V no, if he gets no deal he will be out the next day. You seem to forget even the Tories over whelmingly don't want a no deal exit.
WORST. BJ. EVER.
@@kvandermeersch5753 Noobs, in Spain we had a PM for a few hours. He was appointed, he tried to stop the Civil War, he failed and he resigned during that time.
Actually there a poll in the telegraph saying the people support proroguation.
The data of the poll they used was horribly bias using phasing of the question that suggests an attempt to skew results to using a weighted average by ignoring the 20% of Survey responders who responded with "unsure". It was really a poor showing by the telegraph.
Thank you for calling out how much of a constitutional crisis this is. I know it must have been hard for you as a journalist to say it out loud, as you're always trying to be neutral. Your honesty is appreciated and I wish we had more journalists like you. Also, happy birthday!
Brexitards: EU is undemocratic.
BoZo: Hold my Parliament...
Leave: EU is undemocratic.
Democratic vote: we're leaving.
Parliament: delays and refuses to leave.
Boris: uses legal mechanism to suspend parliament in order to force parliament to stop blocking the results of democratic vote.
Remainers: complain about using the monarchy to leave, while also using the monarchy to formally beg the queen to block a no deal.
@@puffaliaz Since when did Parliament refuse to Leave? How is it proroguing Parliament in a Parliamentary Democracy democratic? When did we have a vote on no deal?
@@Cervando there was a vote to leave. No deal is the default option, the only thing guaranteed by Art.50. Having a deal in place for when the separation happens is optional (though preferable).
Delaying the leave date is of questionable legality, and doing it repeatedly with no clear exit plan is horrific.
The actions of the parliment clearly hows that they aren't going to do anything but kick the can down the road as much as they can, which is clearly against the result of the referendum.
Involving the monarchy is clearly a last resort, and houldn't be done in a modern democracy, but at least it is just extending something that happens legally anyways, and is oly being used to stop further interference... as opposed to the remain camp who have for the last few months said they'd use a "humble address" to the queen to stop a no deal brexit (which is essentially asking the queen to step in and actually take legally binding action)
@@puffaliaz It's still only half the country that wanted to leave though isn't it. Be honest mate, no one wanted the cluster fuck we've ended up with.
@@Cervando If proroguing parliament is not democratic why are there rules in place to make it possible? Virtually the entire extension granted by the EU parliament has chosen to take leave, but if they are forced to do so for a only tiny little longer through rules that parliament presumably put in place itself they start screaming..........
Parliament already had several years to agree a workable deal, they really don't deserve more time to pull their collective thumbs out.
Yes, because decisions and debates don't take time, conducting research to map out consequences of actions is quite frankly irrelevant and to be fair the country did vote for brexit so it's what the people want, we just have to ignore the fact that not all brexiters want no deal, but frankly are they really true patriots? If only every country could just scrap democracy. None of that sounds bad at all does it?
To be fair, it's an impossible job...the initial vote lumped all brexiters into one group despite the fact that they don't agree with each other...no matter how Brexit is done, about 75% of the people would be pissed the fuck off. The remainers would be pissed off either way, but no-deal people get pissed off if there is a deal and deal-leave people get pissed off if there is no deal...
How can anyone expect to make a decision when there are no good options? The initial vote was very much flawed and these 3 years are a result of having a flawed vote.
David Bodor, I agree, the initial vote feels rushed and poorly thought through. David Cameron just didn’t think it would go this way I guess.
Absolutely. ..
Give TLDR some money to buy lights for the studio
He should watch DIY Perks channel and make some on the cheap out of broken TVs
Lights? What for?
I would like to see a video dedicated to whether pushing to remain, pushing for a second referredum, or pushing to revoke article 50 is democratic or not. If this channel is genuinely impartial, there should not be a problem with this.
Would this mean there could be a fourth vote on May's deal after parliament reopens?
Yeah, but this time it will be Boris' deal and will be a completely new and much improved deal that just happens to be identical in every word to May's deal.
Bro that file name "Prorogue Announcement YT 4K
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Brorogue
So my understanding is that Queen Elizabeth really did not have an option regarding this, as the role of the Crown is Ceremonial in nature now.
Was there any solid reasoning for expecting her to not agree besides wishing so?
Yes, the crown's appointee for ceremonial stuff in Canada said no to arbitrary prorogation back in 2011.
Then again, prorogation in the first part of a new government's term is standard practice in Britain, so you could say the only arbitrary part of this was the start date (or maybe the end date, I don't know how queen's speeches are scheduled). It is possible (but will probably never be known for sure) that the exact dates which seem less than optimal for BoJo were chosen due to some communication on reasonable limits between the crown and the new government.
@@TrabberShir Thanks! I had forgotten about the arbitrary suspension being denied in 2011.
I guess my gut feeling is that as a Head of State, one would either say "if you are confident in resolving issues in that short of time, you can do so without dissolving parliament."
Ah well.
Happy birthday young man! Keep up that good work, that is much appreciated :o)
Hello from Australia. Brexit is the greatest show on Earth, every episode is better than the last; I just can’t look away (unlike the Ashes which I’m happy to look away from after I accidentally dropped the remote control onto the wall the other night).
I’m sure that whatever happens with Brexit, Great Britain will be fine. You’re the 5th largest economy, have a permanent seat on the Security Council, you’re nuclear powered and therefore heading towards zero net CO2 emissions. Once you’re out, you’ll have countries queuing around the block (including mine) to sign a trade agreement with you. In, or out of Europe, I’m sure you’ll flourish.
@Noel F nice comment mate, we are in trouble when Tim Paine gets the hang of the review system!. I think we'd be better off using an Aussie and a Brit for umpiring. cheers
Boris has to restart Parliament as Mays Treaty has already failed the maximum amount of times in one session.
So in a new session he can sprinkle Mays Treaty that the EU wrote, which was the worse thing ever, with Magic Boris dust and represent it to the house, vote for this or its No Deal.
He can do that three times before he turns to us and says here's Brexit accept the Treaty or there's no Brexit.
A Different bias.
Hi, my name's Phil and I like talking about politics.
Amsterdam will be so happy with all the companies leaving the uk
I think what we dutch gain is less than what we lose. We might lose less than the UK economically but still no reason to be happy.
France and Belgium already have legislation in the pipeline that eases transition for financial sector companies, plus a few tax breaks here and there. And they aren't quite about it either. They openly flirt with any company that can't afford to exit the market but is in the UK right now :)
BoJo: With the power of Haystack Platinum The Prorogue, I will stop parliamentary time for 5 weeks!
Cors, OrDIO, Nicolabolo and co.: *U W0T M8?!*
*TO BE CONTINUED*
Bojo's bizarre adventure
Part 1: May's blood
Part 2: No deal tendency
Part 3: Sawdust hamburgers
What a cruddy birthday present! Hope the rest of the day makes up for it!
Thanks for the usual clear and concise Brexit update, your channel has been a life saver during this whole charade.
When the Queen is being talked about in the political section of the news, you know something is seriously wrong...
Was this filmed on the 28th? Because if so, we're birthday twins 😁😁
King .L. Dorius it’s triplets!
yes its my birthday as everyone else born on this day who knew 🙄
Same but there's only 365 days on which to have a Birthday. It's doubtless a lot of us 33,000+ viewers share Birthdays
7 way?
@@stuartmorgan3654 I saw a really interesting breakdown of the weird maths behind shared birthdays.... it's less of a coincidence than it seems.
Happy birthday....or happy prorogue day lol
Pins? Pins!! You're British man, the word is "badges".
We don't need no stinkin' badges!
badges are bigger than pins
Hey....you sound like a gammon :)
You're not even trying to be impartial anymore.
When discussing the shape of the Earth, would an impartial person just say there are people who claim that it is an oblong spheroid, and (a handful of) others who say it is a flat disc? Or would they point out that all the facts support the first group, and that the second group is therefore certifiably insane?
I have seen nothing in this video that isn't wholly supported by objectively verifiable facts.
Pretty soon the videos will just be about the merch and dropping links to buy said merch. The ads for the merch will be interrupted with ads for merch and more begging for money.
Corbyn needs to get over himself and agree to a temporary consensus candidate.
Those anti-government MPs should lock themselves in a room, have a Condorcet vote on whom (if anyone) to pick, release themselves once they've decided and stick to this next time they're in Westminster.
In fact, the whole "indicative votes" episode could have been more constructive with a Condorcet system.
In fact, the electorate could decide on which particular outcome they want through a Condorcet referendum!
Pardon me but what's a temporary consensus candidate?
The other parties, especially the Lib Dems, need to get over themselves. They're all stroking their egos. Corybn has the largest opposition behind him, and without Labour the temporary government would 0% chance of being a reality.
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According to Dominic Grieve's recent amendment parliament can't be suspended more than 2 weeks, but how did they get Queen's consent for suspension of parliament for 4 weeks??
because shes the Queen ..Watch Blackadder
As an outsider it looks like Brexit would be much easier if you just de-occupied Ireland.
Am I oversimplifying?
Happy birthday Jack! And thank you for all the TLDR videos, they're massively useful and you're doing a great job!
Happy Birthday man! keep doing what your doing, Excellent source of Brexit news
Very pro-european, but what about those of us who want Brexit to happen?
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TLDR News, I was wondering if parliament during the prorogation, would be legally allowed to convene as a group elsewhere? After all, they might not officially be in sitting, but they could all turn up for a lunch in the park surely?
Was the Queen obliged to accept Johnson's petition to prorrogue Parliament?
Pretty much, she acts based on the advise of her government.. if she went roque it would put the monarchy in danger. (Even more than by going along with Johnson)
Yes.
3:00 Sept 12 - Oct 14 is 32 days not 23.
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I watch all your how the hell don’t I know your name?
11:44
"Outage"- 4:52?
Brexit is the most undemocratic thing ever, I swear to god
Trying to stop brexit is the most un-democratic thing ever
@@Josh-xz4ec Subverting our democratic process to force a No Deal is what's undemocratic.
If we must leave, fine. But do so democratically so that the method of our leaving is fair to the people. Perhaps that might mean No Deal eventually, but more likely it would mean some kind of a deal. Still leaving, but leaving democratically.
Forcing No Deal through this way makes a mockery of us all.
@@Josh-xz4ec the leave campaign had help from cambridge analytica and was fueled by lies. Not to mention that people thought it would be leagues easier than it is.
And now BoJo needs to cancel parliament to get a no-deal through.
It's almost as if this is resulting in something that nobody wants but we have to go through with it because of ignorant boulder-heads like you who cant look yoursel fin the mirror to realise this is manipulated top to bottom. This whole thing is illegitimate.
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So in total, the UK is still screwed
What a shock
Once upon a time in Germany (1933) on a beautiful March day a certain party came to true power trough fiddling with parliament that changed the world...
Thank god those absurd days are over. Right? Right....? Right.............?
Don't you think that this is a bit of a strech?
That would be Socialism, Right.!
James Bond Pretty sure that is what the voters thought at the time too...
IPJ Bradley Europe/EU IS a socialist system. Comparing it to nazisms ‘1.0’ version is a bit of a stretch.
Not a single german back then voted to be obliterated in a war. This time it might be an economic obliteration... Perhaps equally divisive and destructive in a 2019 climate.
As any good lawyer will tell you, Divorce is always messy...
Happy birthday. Also so much thanks for videos being so constant and provide so much needed info. Like progrouging and telling us 2 months before anyone else knows about it.
The fact that "that's what governments always do" is probably the root problem.
So what do you think will be a better solution. There needs to be new parliaments periodically with new plans and objectives laid out especially with a change of government. There cannot be set terms for parliaments as important legislation may end up not passing in time (this one due to brexit was 50% longer than any other in 400 years). I guess parliament itself could vote on its own suspension however I'll be curious whether that could interfere with the government's ability to govern by prematurely ending or delaying suspensions.
It's not exactly a true statement if it hasn't been done for 70 years. Also, that statement does sound remarkably like Trump's "My tax returns are under audit and I unfortunately can't show them" - just the cheapest excuse he could find for ending democracy.
@@oliverlane9716 Why couldn't parliament do it? A government needs a majority anyway, so why would a governments majority vote against its own interests?
@@oliverlane9716 Prorogation has also been used historically for PMs to avoid parliamentary oversight (usually involving parliamentary investigations into corrupt behaviour of the PM). Generally during times of national crisis prorogation is made as short as possible (i.e. no more than 1 day) to ensure parliament is able to deal with the crisis. Boris's ill-timed (why didn't he prorogue right when he came to power?) and inappropriately long (don't take a week off right before a major deadline) prorogation is obviously designed to maximally disrupt attempts by parliament to block a No Deal while still letting him pretend that that is not the main goal of it.
More like cowardly MP's are mad they can't further stall and try stop what the people voted for
I think you should have less lighting for your videos, and maybe mention your birthday more.
And add a bit of promotion of your channel.
Why not make at least half of each video promotion?
“We’re in the Endgame now.”
TLDR News has been my favourite news channel for quite a while now.
Happy birthday!
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This episode of The Brexit Show is ridiculous. This show has jumped the shark. I think audience popularity is going to fall off before the season finale.
do you do big posters of countries with legs? like ....say....Scotland with legs?
I know this needed to be edited really quickly, and it's your birthday, but "procedure" has no double e.
A lot of their videos have typos.
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I think this gentleman made a mistake by breaking with his usual dispassionate presentation of the facts to rant about the supposed insanity of this development. It doesn’t seem “insane” to me, an outside observer. It seems like what is necessary to make progress.
You may wanna fix that title
I think there’s some MPs who are looking into the ‘advice’ Johnson gave the Queen (the Queen has to act on the Prime Minister’s advice) into whether or not it was valid. (Correct me if I’m wrong and this isn’t the case.)
Edie Archer You would be correct. The courts will rule in the prime ministers favour though according to legal experts on sky news yesterday.
@The Colonel if the queen has to act on the advice of the prime minister. Why shouldnt parliament act in the advice of the people?
Which a referendum isnt, by the way. They could have taken a simple poll if they wanted "advice".
Bustaperizm Banks will throw in more russian cash grabbed out of the tax haven of Britain, launder it and say it came from a deal he declared as a no gain sale to the tax man. Brexit was paid for. Follow the money.
What's your opinion on the RUclips union also you should do a video on it
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7:29 I don't know why, but this bit just gets me every time
People & Parlement: Vote to leave
PM: Makes UK leave
People & Parlement: :o