"understeers like a concert marimba." Although I have never driven this car, since I was a percussionist I now know EXACTLY what this car steers like. Thanks Mr. Regular
This is super funny to me because I have this car and the first thing I did was slammed it. I never even experienced the original suspension but mine works great lol
+tohnari Hey, it's an EX, that's a powerful model. haha. Nah, but forreal doe sit have the vtec in it and is it a manual? My girlfriend has an 05 Civic EX hybrid manual and while it doesn't have the vtec, it does have the 1.5 with the assist hybrid motor and it's not a slouch. haha.
Yooper Dad: "Dat's a good car, Ja 'dats a four-cylinder right? Ja, like that Civic; that's good on gas. Gramma in background: "Oh, be careful." I live in Wisconsin and have a 98 Civic sedan. This could not be more spot on. Thanks for reviewing the Civic!
I had this exact grey Civic, except manual, at one point. It was benign, milquetoast, and completely forgettable when it was gone. Mom still talks about it.
Kinda every civic besides the type R and I guess some SIs are boring in my opinion... S2000 and the new type r are the only hondas id really like to drive
Just an FYI, understeer vs. oversteer on a FWD car has nothing to do with the car being independent rear suspension or not. It's actually primarily based on the relationship between front and rear roll stiffness, which is determined by the springs/sway bars. -High front roll stiffness will cause a car to understeer. -Relatively equal front and rear roll stiffness will make a car more neutral. -High rear roll stiffness will make the car oversteer. Most regular FWD cars are set up with high front roll stiffness to the factory to make the car "safely" understeer. This is why fitting a stiffer rear sway bar is such a common mod for people with FWD cars. It evens out the front and rear roll stiffness, making the car more neutral. Fit a stiff enough rear sway bar to this Civic and it will swing its tail around like a dachshund that's had its back legs replaced with wheels.
Not too sure about FWD cars but on my RWD car I can tune the under and oversteer with just the alignment specs. Specifically on my car more front camber and castor = more front grip = more oversteer. It took some trial and error but it's fairly even now.
Ryan Hudson Yep, obviously there a lot of factors that affect handling balance, and alignment specs (particularly static and dynamic camber) certainly make a difference. When you start getting into cars with RWD, AWD, torque vectoring, ect. then you obviously add in a whole new laundry list of factors as well. For the regular FWD car though, front-rear roll stiffness is usually the biggie for determining handling balance.
Currently reading the Wikipedia article for the 7th gen Civic and it's strangely similar to the script of this video minus all the jokes. I see you Mr. Regular, I see you.
I want a sports car as my first car That sounds expensive, no you want a honda civic I want a muscle car as my first car No, you want a honda civic I want a 4 speed bicycle Happy birthday, I got you a honda civic
Ric Ultima "hey check out this Honda Civic I just bought dad!" "Oh, cool. Thats a nice, safe, slow car. Oh, what are those red badges that say Type R though ?" "Oh, they're just some sporty looking things the previous owner put on you know"
We have achieved peak regular car. My mother recently gave up driving and gave me her.. 2002 Honda Civic LX Automatic. It's even silver. And holy cow does it under-steer - and this is coming from an Audi owner. I've been noodling back and forth to work in it worry free - well, worry free since the airbags were replaced.
My technically "first" car was a 2001 Civic LX Automatic. Gold. it was a hand me down from my parents. Half way through owning the car I found out it was a Canadian model, something about being able to dim the dashboard lights that you couldn't do in the US models. Then soon afterwards the transmission craped out and the gears were slipping under hard acceleration... and yeah the understeer is very bad, and the body roll too! None the less, it was a great car.
Dana W I just bought a 2001 civic lx today and the only light on the dash is the SRS light. I was kind of worried about it and thought maybe the airbags are out of service but your comment just gave me a sigh of relief .. I’m sure it’s probably just the sensor in the belt
It has understeer because the rear sway bar is absent on the LX trim level. The EX trims from this generation handle like you were expecting this LX to handle. Countering the cornering force (i.e. "roll" or "sway") with the rear axle lets the inner, front wheel put more force to the ground giving the front end more grip. This is why rear sway bars on FWD cars are so critical as well as stiff chassis (to transmit the action of the rear axle to the front). This also explains why torsion beam rear suspension on FWD cars allows for rotation (See: Focus and Fiesta) - the anti-sway action is built into the suspension geometry. However, torsion beam does sacrifice some fine-tune control which is why IRS w/ sway bar is still desirable - kinda like McPherson Strut vs Double Wishbone).
I've got one of these. THE UNDERSTEER. IT'S TRUE. Like, understeer at 25 mph through a slight bend. I was shocked. I thought the indie rear suspension would make if corner like a champ... That aside, it's a great car! This is a very accurate review. Props to Mr. Regular and the Roman.
I own a 2001 Honda Civic LX. Tan on tan. Automatic. It was basically given to me, and as much as I appreciate it, when I drive it I get this overwhelming feeling that I've given up on life. There is no joy, only existence. If there is even a hint of joy before I get in to drive it, it gets eradicated when I sit uncomfortably in the tan cloth seats. It's THE most bland Civic ever produced, inside and out. It makes a Toyota Camry look sporty.
I have an EX coupe in red with manual: the manual transmission is the only thing that lets me feel any sense of satisfaction in the choice of Honda (I downgraded from a 5th gen Accord EX Coupe manual because of a collision that was out of my control, I fuckin' loved that car).
I can confirm the 2004 LX with a 5 speed is a understeering dog. It was a great little car, that did everything that I could have asked of it. Even that one time I thought off roading was a good idea. Had over 150k miles and still ran like a boss.
Hey Mr. Regular, I just wanted to say that I was on frontline as a freshman and Drumline the three years thereafter, two of which I was captain. And I greatly appreciate all of the percussion oriented band jokes and mentions you've made over the years. I have to say it's really awsome for there to be another band nerd car guy out there. Especially a famous one. Anyway, have a great day.
Alto Sax player here! I miss marching band so much, but sadly I can't really manage a commitment like that in college. Now that I think about it, I need to start practicing again :P
As a shameless Honda fan-boy, this car represents when I stopped giving a shit about Honda. I've owned two 2000's and a 99 - and I love them. This thing is a pale reflection of its forefathers, and it all went downhill from here. Bigger, fatter, less grounded in realty every single year after 2000.
The turn of the century brought new safety and emissions standards so most lovable lightweight cars from the 90s turned to shit after 2000. Look at the Eclipse for example. Not that I hate the third and fourth gen Eclipses (I owned one) but the car took a completely different direction and they ended up basing it off the Galant. Sure it had about the same amount of power, but lack luster engines, sloppy suspension designed for comfort, and a sedan Chassis isn't exactly the recipe for the perfect sports car.
Huss Ali Completely disagreed. Ill take an em1 over the new junk anyday. I went to turnersville honda with intentions of driving and purchasing a 2007 si, and I was just just disappointed. and my 2000 civic was a dx model, but swapped to a b20b with a b16 trans and it would wreck the k in the 07 si.
David Hoffnung That's what she said! OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *everybody declines my high five*
This was my 1st car, a beige one. We went everywhere together and I got my license with it. Funny you talk about its under-steering, my mom would always complain that I took turns too fast cause she felt the car rolling and that I had to slow down 😂 Just sold it a few days ago with 141k miles of memories (so cheesy). Great car, man do I miss it!
If you drive like grandma drive a corolla You drive like a coked up teen who shotguned 5 beers and wants to go fast Buy a civic 2 bery different "reliability" standpoints
The ending song is from FFVIII!!! Great game!!! (But most people didn't like it).. Ok MR regular, when are you going to review the G37S coupe, my very own car.. Damit I been asking this for a year now... Hope you have the time..(and car) because I love your job.
I thought I recognised it! Quickly went to the comments for confirmation! Ahh thats so cool! Wicked cover Roman! :D (great review as always Mr. Regular.)
Every time I hear people inexplicably call FF8 a great game, I die a little inside. War... suffering... AIDS... people that call FF8 a great game... why must there be so much evil in the world? I don't understand.
Well... It's a bad game??? It's a piece of shit game??? It's sooo bad this game that make you to write this crap we all have to read?? I can tell that your judgment is inexplicably stupid.
Yes, you all have to read it. I had to play that game. I played FF7 back at launch on PSX, like everyone else it knocked me on my ass. Rushed out and bought FF8 at launch, rammed it into my psx GET IN THERE YOU FUCK and turned it on and... ohh... ohh... nohh... *drops controller from nerveless fingers* ohhhhhh.... and now, years later, you all have to read this crap. I think that's only fair! Don't you think that's fair? I think it's fair.
This car makes me love my '94 Peugeot 205 1.1i even more: it usually under-steers when the road is wet, but on a certain rainy day, when going 70 km/h it decided to go from under-steer to over-steer. My years of playing racing games (and practicing in real-life snow) finally payed off: counter-steering and holding the throttle made me catch the slide.
I currently own this car and I abuse the hell out of it. It's steering and handling is great as long as you're not mashing down the throttle in a corner. It will effortlessly take turns as long as you're going "the safe speed". The suspension feels great, not much roll, but still very comfortable. I love this car, its the king of practicality.
It is a bitch. People in my country because it is a Camry it is Toyota and guess what when they get old they cost even more in maintenance specially the suspension. I know 2 cancelled the car because it suspension cost. Fuck Toyota.
This is hilarious. I own that same car, trimline, year, and color. And yes it's bigger on the inside (moved across the country twice with it). Traded up to a WRX
Awesome Video. My 2 cents on the 7th Gen Civic is that this was the best damn little car that I have driven for a person that did not know how to drive a car. Unlike my little Subie DL that I had in high school and college, this car was not fast off the line, nor would it break loose the front tires and push its way around the upside of a mountain road at 55 MPH (tires were clocking close to 75 mph), but it was predictable. It had slightly better than acceptable acceleration at highway speeds if you learned how to take advantage of the missing gate between D3 and D4 on the shifter (You didn't mention the missing gate between D3 and D4.) This had to be the best car for a person who does not know how to drive a car. And better than that, this is the best car for a person who does not aspire to be a better driver on the highway. It is an amazing piece of engineering and is really the ultimate "appliance" car.
I'd go with a previous gen EK9, or an EG6 because of the double wishbone front suspension, which from what I've heard supposedly is that civic (EK9,EG6 and other 5th & 6th gen models) has one of the best suspension systems found on any passenger car.
YEP! So glad someone else mentioned this! Once this gen came out, a lot of Honda guys I knew abandoned ship on the brand! Between this thing and the RSX there was a lot of frustration with Honda!
***** Well, I don't think they're any more likely to rotate with the factory setup, lots of people just feel that the double wishbone style of suspension is a lot better platform to mod on. TeamIntegra.net has some GREAT suspension articles if you're interested. They're pretty much civic relevant too. They explain the differences of both and advantages and disadvantages of both.
***** ugly, they rust out hardcore like every dodge, and power really doesnt mean anything because for cheap you can double the power. look at SRT4's people blow them up all the time haha. civics also out handle neons wierdly enough.
Robby94LS I've owned two EG6s (an SiR II and an SiR), have driven two DC2 Integra Type R's, and an EK9. I now own a DC5 Integra Type R, and I will say without a doubt that the DC5 Type R is the best Honda I've ever driven.
Much like my '98 Corolla, the Civic was designed to be a reliable people mover for non-enthusiasts. It's bland and boring, and that's by design---bland and boring appeals to alot of people. I only bought my Corolla because I had x amount of $$$$, and I needed something reliable right away (wanted a Celica). You made a good point in that vid, and the point is that reliability sells cars. The 18 year old kid's first car was an old Honda, and it was as reliable as a bank vault....a few years later, he's got a good job and more disposable income, and he remembers how reliable that Honda was---he buys a new one. I know a guy in his early 50's that has driven only Toyotas for the last 25 years....brand loyalty.
kasm279 I completely agree... I wanna see some love for the mighty YAMAHAMMER!!! The Gen 3 V8 is a rolling joke he could do a half hour video about the flaws in that car (I had 2, by the way) For some reason still loved them!
I've been driving a 01 Civic EX for 14 years that I bought new. It's modified with high performance summer tires, Koni adjustable shocks, high lb. Springs, sway bars, polyurethane suspension bushings, chassis reinforcement among other engine and interior exterior mods. And I can assure you that the car can be a lot of fun and has such a high limit that I have yet to have the balls to find it on the street. It corners unbelievably fast and has made several friends into Honda believers. When I bought it I said I would drive it into the ground or until I could race it abd here we are and I'm running my first track day with it in several months.
The accuracy of this review is uncanny. I had a white 99' LX. Super clean, tinted windows, lowered on coilovers. The coilovers killed a lot of the understeer and with the sporty tires I had it was hard to lose control. But stock, it would just push... Whatever, I have a Miata now! Track day, bro!
I hate this gen Civic. They took the long lasting quality, fun and timelessness out of the previous gen and delivered this uninspired heap of nothingness. The 6th gen still looks more fresh than the 7th. No Type R, not even a Japanese Si. The beginning of Honda's laziness. All the civics to follow have never matched the build quality of the tanks that the 6th gen was.
I don't even think of US Civics starting that one as the actual Civics, look at the rest of the world. Nobody will accuse of EU/JP 2005 model of not being bold or fun.
I haven't seen anything close to the EH2s either. Those were light, quick, and I've never had more fun driving a stock car than when I drove a stock EH2
That was the first car I ever rode in. A 2000 or 2001 Honda Civic. That was the car that brought me home just after my birth. It had a manual transmission, manual windows and was in a dark green colour.W We had this car until 2008, when we bought a new Mitsubishi Outlander.
best car in the world honestly. It just, is a car, a good car. Nothing modern will compete with the simple a to b reliability of this car. At least not from a reputable brand, there may be versas or some shit for kids 20 years down the road but those have a eastern european style crash saftey, essentially a strong enough to protect you from running over a gypsie and that is it. Long live the civic.
Stuff in more safety than that and we're simply betraying Darwin and helping idiots to breed and making our cars inexorably slower and less efficient. EE safety best safety.
If you have one and want it to over steer on the track, the recipe is quite simple and cheap. Use an angle grinder to cut out the front sway bar, install a 21-26mm rear sway bar, and lower the vehicle. This model as well as the coupe do not need a rear strut bar, as the struts are reinforced by a thick frame rail in the trunk. I have not experimented with a front strut bar yet, but as of yet the handling is already amazing. Rear sway bars can bolt directly in from the Civic EP3 "si" or the RSX and can be found for pennies at a local scrap yard. Lowering is up to how much you want to spend/how comfortable you want the ride. The power is crap but If you have the D17a2 a Crower stage 1 camshaft is a worthy/cheap modification, the car will still be slow but lessor so.
Imho, a fwd car that oversteers(like you said the Fiesta does) is a bad thing for regular people. Catching oversteer on a fwd car is HARD for regular non-car-people. Now, please correct me if I'm wrong, but don't fwd cars usually violently swing back the other way because people overcorrect it(due to weight transfering from one side to the other), and then slam into the wall with even more force on the other side of the road. Whereas just letting it spin out without correcting usually results in the car staying on the road. When I had a fwd hatchback, I once nearly spun out in the snow, but corrected it. It then swung the other way much more suddenly than it did innitially. The only reason I managed to not crash, is because I decided to hold the accelerator down, so it pulled the front end out of that second slide.. But most people wouldn't do that, and then try to correct it again. I believe the Civic is meant to understeer because fwd understeer is much easier to catch according to manufacturers. You just let off the gas to get more weight on the front wheels, straighten the wheel *a bit* and then start steering again... At least that's what I've learned in an anti-skid program. Personally I drive an old Bmw E36, and even that car is alligned to understeer rather than oversteer. I spun that car in the rain once and just let it spin, because I knew my driving skills weren't good enough to catch it and I'd just end up in the ditch on the other side. By letting it go it stayed on the road and I had no damage, other than my ego..
Mythbuster Yeah, I agree, regular people WILL just hit the brakes! I've seen it in other cars and I've been in the car when people have done it. Most non drivers reaction to ANYTHING abnormal is to just hit the breaks! I'm always drilling into my wife that sometimes the gas pedal will get you OUT of bad situations! It's got me out PLENTY of times!
Haha, I have an E36 and I nearly understeered into a bridge offramp divider in the snow, I know for a fact it doesn't like to oversteer until you decide to hoon :D
I have a 99 LX, and I went through one. My mom had the car for years before me and it went out around 150k I believe. Other than that, it's just been simple things, and I abused the car when I first got it. I didn't even change the oil back then lol, I do now, but I was an idiot when I first got it lol
My mom bought an ex (inline 4) and that thing is a slug. 150hp/138ft-lbs in a sedan? Seriously? It does handle, thought, if you know what you're doing. Beware: the back door links might fall off and you'll never open them.
That FInal Fantasy 8 outro!!!! I think one of my favorite things is simply trying to guess which video game (usually JPRG) OST you guys are going to use!
"Why should it understeer in the first place?" he says, while we all still have the image of a shopping cart full of window weights bumping into things in our minds.
I've gone from a 1989 Accord to a 7th gen Civic for grad school and I've come to love it. One of these days I would love to be an enthusiast but I just need something to get me through the next couple years.
Both my parents had one of these when I was growing up, an 03 and an 04. It understeers forever until it suddenly doesn't and then you're completely out of control. No lead up, just understeering...understeering...BAM! SIDEWAYS. Very hard to regain control. Nearly crashed it at Laguna Seca of all places after many laps of constant slidy understeer. Difficult clutch too. But also the most unobtrusive car I've ever driven. Always found myself asking to borrow it when I was tired and didn't want to deal with another car. You could drive it comfortably for days.
We have a 2014 Honda Civic that we bought in late 2013, it's a great car, 'nuff said. It is not a Lexus or a Cadillac, but it will get you from point A to point B while maintaining excellent fuel economy and superb reliability, it doesn't have luxury amenities, but it does the job. The Civic is what a car should be, basic transportation, nothing else.
Sorry but your view of a car is so simplistic. A car is or can be more than just basic transportation. It can be an emotional connection, a toy, a status symbol, a conversation starter, an extension of you. Obviously you are simplistic therefor you have a Honda Civic. LOL
***** I am not simplistic, I simply believe a car such as the Civic is simplistic, the Civic we own is actually the Touring model, top-of-the-line fully loaded with all the bells and whistles, I just think the Civic is car that carries out what it was made for, when Henry Ford made the Model T, he created it as a method of transportation to make horseback travelling obsolete, but times have changed and a car is no longer what it was, yet the Civic is a car that represents what an automobile was.
Sorry my comment came off a bit negative. I am not saying that simplicity is necessarily a bad thing though. I just misinterpreted you comment. I felt like you meant all automobiles should be as simple as a Civic. I apologize.
***** Frankly, I should apologize due to the lack of my opinion being unsupported and delivering a message that was not intended, it is not your fault, I'll be careful next time to add more detail and have motives behind an opinion. Apologies
Owned one for 8 years it was a former total loss. Hardly did oil changes , timing belt mah never did it. It was bullet proof! 550 km city driving per 40 litre tank it was awesome
This was actually my first car, i had the manual 2 door EX coupe though. I feel like since it was such a safe car my teenage brain told me to push it ever harder. I never wrecked it, crazy chicks dumped water in the gas tank, keyed it, and kicked in the rear quarter panel trying to kill a spider but it kept going. e-brake slides, burnouts and weekends of racing in on backroads against friends outbacks and ford escapes. I loved the little car(still do). I think it made me appreciate cars more, yea it made me want to get something RWD to have what i though would be more "fun" The civic never let me down and no matter how hard i tried to get it to get dangerous in the turns it just wouldn't. Not that you couldn't really go at the turns, it would take them but never felt like it was going to bite back.
Drive a 6th gen Civic, or even better, a 5th gen, they handle so much better because they have Double-Wishbone suspension as opposed to to 7th gen+ with their Macpherson Struts
Mine has replaced tires too and it corners really well, although I've only had limited experience with other cars since like RCR said, its my first car
Yeah, just looking at the tires that are on their, they're the kind that are advertised as being eco tires. Even on a proper set of all seasons, it'll corner in the dry pretty well in my opinion. The same issue with those low friction tires can be experienced when driving in the rain and trying to corner the same way.
This was the first generation to adopt macpherson strut suspension in the front, instead of double wishbone all around so perhaps that is a contributing factor in its understeer.
For the record our bari sax player was 6’2 and 275 of pure muscle soooo he was carrying his bari with one hand and by trombone with the other….but yeah…..understeer
"understeers like a concert marimba." Although I have never driven this car, since I was a percussionist I now know EXACTLY what this car steers like. Thanks Mr. Regular
Although I have never been in band, since I own a Honda Civic I now know EXACTLY how heavy a concert marimba would be
As someone who was in band, I know exactly what that is like now.
Yes, especially with the fat tires
My dad had '03 grey stick shift civic until last year and I am a percussionist. How did I stumble upon this absolute beauty of a video?
This is super funny to me because I have this car and the first thing I did was slammed it. I never even experienced the original suspension but mine works great lol
"oh be careful.." im dying
norflett %50 of everything my grandma says
xDD
+tohnari Hey, it's an EX, that's a powerful model. haha. Nah, but forreal doe sit have the vtec in it and is it a manual? My girlfriend has an 05 Civic EX hybrid manual and while it doesn't have the vtec, it does have the 1.5 with the assist hybrid motor and it's not a slouch. haha.
This is what grandma was concerned about..
+norflett HEH my first car is a RX-8, grandma said the same thing
You actually managed to find one with out a fart cannon I'm impressed.
He just stole it from some grandma
This gen civic seems to be the least messed with idk why
this gen we dont like. looked ugly and motors were relatively weak
It's the most grandma spec Civic out there imo
This gen sucked ass. The only decent Civic of this gen was the Si hatch, and without a K20A2 or K20A it was pretty shitty.
Yooper Dad: "Dat's a good car, Ja 'dats a four-cylinder right? Ja, like that Civic; that's good on gas.
Gramma in background: "Oh, be careful."
I live in Wisconsin and have a 98 Civic sedan. This could not be more spot on.
Thanks for reviewing the Civic!
I live in Virginia and my dad is a yooper and this is still spot on
Sounded more Canadian though I thought
@@GK5_ yeah. Certain parts of the U.P. it sounds almost Canadian
Surreal Memes Y E S
I have a ‘98 Civic sedan too
Oh hey when did this comment blow up lol
I had this exact grey Civic, except manual, at one point. It was benign, milquetoast, and completely forgettable when it was gone. Mom still talks about it.
Kinda every civic besides the type R and I guess some SIs are boring in my opinion... S2000 and the new type r are the only hondas id really like to drive
then it wasn't the exact same then
2005 Type R here - can confirm its hella fun
9 months later and i actually bought an 03 LX 50th anniversary for 500bucks. Rip impreza. Ill miss you partner. I was basically raised in that car
Me too! I had a 2001 beige with an automatic transmission. the tranny went out while I was on the highway
Just an FYI, understeer vs. oversteer on a FWD car has nothing to do with the car being independent rear suspension or not. It's actually primarily based on the relationship between front and rear roll stiffness, which is determined by the springs/sway bars.
-High front roll stiffness will cause a car to understeer.
-Relatively equal front and rear roll stiffness will make a car more neutral.
-High rear roll stiffness will make the car oversteer.
Most regular FWD cars are set up with high front roll stiffness to the factory to make the car "safely" understeer. This is why fitting a stiffer rear sway bar is such a common mod for people with FWD cars. It evens out the front and rear roll stiffness, making the car more neutral. Fit a stiff enough rear sway bar to this Civic and it will swing its tail around like a dachshund that's had its back legs replaced with wheels.
I'm always looking forward to the comments you make on these videos.
Not too sure about FWD cars but on my RWD car I can tune the under and oversteer with just the alignment specs. Specifically on my car more front camber and castor = more front grip = more oversteer. It took some trial and error but it's fairly even now.
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Lol thanks. :D
Ryan Hudson Yep, obviously there a lot of factors that affect handling balance, and alignment specs (particularly static and dynamic camber) certainly make a difference. When you start getting into cars with RWD, AWD, torque vectoring, ect. then you obviously add in a whole new laundry list of factors as well.
For the regular FWD car though, front-rear roll stiffness is usually the biggie for determining handling balance.
One of these days I will try my hand at a FWD and see if I can get it to handle.
Currently reading the Wikipedia article for the 7th gen Civic and it's strangely similar to the script of this video minus all the jokes. I see you Mr. Regular, I see you.
Plot twist: he wrote the Wikipedia page
I want a sports car as my first car
That sounds expensive, no you want a honda civic
I want a muscle car as my first car
No, you want a honda civic
I want a 4 speed bicycle
Happy birthday, I got you a honda civic
Ric Ultima "hey check out this Honda Civic I just bought dad!" "Oh, cool. Thats a nice, safe, slow car. Oh, what are those red badges that say Type R though ?" "Oh, they're just some sporty looking things the previous owner put on you know"
Gut the interior, remove all unnecessary parts, add type r badging. Win
Armouredfalcon hahahaha
@@rckli Don't forget the Ivtec sticker!!!
99 COROLLA
"Little did they know this car was going to be used for.. banging freshman.." LMAAAOOOOOOOOO
We have achieved peak regular car.
My mother recently gave up driving and gave me her.. 2002 Honda Civic LX Automatic. It's even silver. And holy cow does it under-steer - and this is coming from an Audi owner.
I've been noodling back and forth to work in it worry free - well, worry free since the airbags were replaced.
As I drive my used-rental Impala.
I'm keeping my eye out for an '80s CRX. You know, for kids!
My technically "first" car was a 2001 Civic LX Automatic. Gold. it was a hand me down from my parents. Half way through owning the car I found out it was a Canadian model, something about being able to dim the dashboard lights that you couldn't do in the US models. Then soon afterwards the transmission craped out and the gears were slipping under hard acceleration... and yeah the understeer is very bad, and the body roll too! None the less, it was a great car.
You probably got screwed by the garage. There is a sensor in the seat belt, if it goes bad it throws an air bag light.
Dana W I just bought a 2001 civic lx today and the only light on the dash is the SRS light. I was kind of worried about it and thought maybe the airbags are out of service but your comment just gave me a sigh of relief .. I’m sure it’s probably just the sensor in the belt
@@TragicFlows how is it holdin up?
I like how youtube posts an ad for a concert marimba at the end of the video.
It has understeer because the rear sway bar is absent on the LX trim level. The EX trims from this generation handle like you were expecting this LX to handle.
Countering the cornering force (i.e. "roll" or "sway") with the rear axle lets the inner, front wheel put more force to the ground giving the front end more grip.
This is why rear sway bars on FWD cars are so critical as well as stiff chassis (to transmit the action of the rear axle to the front).
This also explains why torsion beam rear suspension on FWD cars allows for rotation (See: Focus and Fiesta) - the anti-sway action is built into the suspension geometry. However, torsion beam does sacrifice some fine-tune control which is why IRS w/ sway bar is still desirable - kinda like McPherson Strut vs Double Wishbone).
I've got one of these. THE UNDERSTEER. IT'S TRUE. Like, understeer at 25 mph through a slight bend. I was shocked. I thought the indie rear suspension would make if corner like a champ... That aside, it's a great car! This is a very accurate review. Props to Mr. Regular and the Roman.
"It's bigger on the inside... like a TARDIS, or a stripper."
Coffee, meet keyboard.
Like a tardis had me 😐 but at the or a stripper part 😂😂
He had me at "why should it understeer in the first place, im talking about the civic again"
Another good video!
I'm glad Harold isn't afraid to "show his face" in public after his last appearance.
HAHA Yeah, we can only take Harold in small doses.... That FULL episode was painful!
What last appearance? What did I miss out on?
Civic Si, maybe a month or so ago!
Robby94LS Damn I feel I missed out on something big. I saw the comments on that video, Yikes.
I own a 2001 Honda Civic LX. Tan on tan. Automatic. It was basically given to me, and as much as I appreciate it, when I drive it I get this overwhelming feeling that I've given up on life. There is no joy, only existence. If there is even a hint of joy before I get in to drive it, it gets eradicated when I sit uncomfortably in the tan cloth seats. It's THE most bland Civic ever produced, inside and out. It makes a Toyota Camry look sporty.
I have an EX coupe in red with manual: the manual transmission is the only thing that lets me feel any sense of satisfaction in the choice of Honda (I downgraded from a 5th gen Accord EX Coupe manual because of a collision that was out of my control, I fuckin' loved that car).
😄
Accurate
I can confirm the 2004 LX with a 5 speed is a understeering dog. It was a great little car, that did everything that I could have asked of it. Even that one time I thought off roading was a good idea. Had over 150k miles and still ran like a boss.
Bro, I had the same exact experience with my '03 lx 5spd, lost her recently :(((
It truly is "The Car". In a manual; this generation - pound for pound, may be the best car ever. I own one. Look at the generations that followed.
Hey Mr. Regular,
I just wanted to say that I was on frontline as a freshman and Drumline the three years thereafter, two of which I was captain. And I greatly appreciate all of the percussion oriented band jokes and mentions you've made over the years. I have to say it's really awsome for there to be another band nerd car guy out there. Especially a famous one. Anyway, have a great day.
Alto Sax player here! I miss marching band so much, but sadly I can't really manage a commitment like that in college.
Now that I think about it, I need to start practicing again :P
Trumpet player. I love being in band, and I'm so glad I chose to do it college. Me R, thank you so much for the band nerd jokes, keep it up
omg wang fei! awesome ff8 reference!
laowhy86 A cheesy song from a below average game for a perfectly average car.
Setzer_Gabbiani yes
cmilk
Bruh what are you doin here 😂
I love the Final Fantasy 8-like ending theme! Good job guys!
As a shameless Honda fan-boy, this car represents when I stopped giving a shit about Honda. I've owned two 2000's and a 99 - and I love them. This thing is a pale reflection of its forefathers, and it all went downhill from here. Bigger, fatter, less grounded in realty every single year after 2000.
The turn of the century brought new safety and emissions standards so most lovable lightweight cars from the 90s turned to shit after 2000. Look at the Eclipse for example. Not that I hate the third and fourth gen Eclipses (I owned one) but the car took a completely different direction and they ended up basing it off the Galant. Sure it had about the same amount of power, but lack luster engines, sloppy suspension designed for comfort, and a sedan Chassis isn't exactly the recipe for the perfect sports car.
You should try an 8thgen civic si it's better than 99-00 si
Huss Ali Completely disagreed. Ill take an em1 over the new junk anyday. I went to turnersville honda with intentions of driving and purchasing a 2007 si, and I was just just disappointed. and my 2000 civic was a dx model, but swapped to a b20b with a b16 trans and it would wreck the k in the 07 si.
RavagedSilence I miss my dx.
David Hoffnung
That's what she said! OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
*everybody declines my high five*
This was my 1st car, a beige one. We went everywhere together and I got my license with it. Funny you talk about its under-steering, my mom would always complain that I took turns too fast cause she felt the car rolling and that I had to slow down 😂 Just sold it a few days ago with 141k miles of memories (so cheesy). Great car, man do I miss it!
2:03 Dan arnetts groan is why I come back to this video
"Eyes On Me" cover, Roman?! You're the man.
This is the Red Letter Media of car reviews. Excellently produced.
Half in the ba,err, honda.
was doing some research before purchasing my first car....this is the best review ive ever seen lmao....
Freshman?
Its a corolla by honda lol !
Still not a Corolla. Good car though.
Nowhere near as much rust as a Corolla.
But the civic is better
If you drive like grandma drive a corolla
You drive like a coked up teen who shotguned 5 beers and wants to go fast
Buy a civic
2 bery different "reliability" standpoints
Toyota
The ending song is from FFVIII!!! Great game!!! (But most people didn't like it).. Ok MR regular, when are you going to review the G37S coupe, my very own car.. Damit I been asking this for a year now... Hope you have the time..(and car) because I love your job.
Shout out to RCR for the FFVIII love.
I thought I recognised it! Quickly went to the comments for confirmation! Ahh thats so cool! Wicked cover Roman! :D (great review as always Mr. Regular.)
Every time I hear people inexplicably call FF8 a great game, I die a little inside. War... suffering... AIDS... people that call FF8 a great game... why must there be so much evil in the world? I don't understand.
Well... It's a bad game??? It's a piece of shit game??? It's sooo bad this game that make you to write this crap we all have to read??
I can tell that your judgment is inexplicably stupid.
Yes, you all have to read it. I had to play that game. I played FF7 back at launch on PSX, like everyone else it knocked me on my ass. Rushed out and bought FF8 at launch, rammed it into my psx GET IN THERE YOU FUCK and turned it on and... ohh... ohh... nohh... *drops controller from nerveless fingers* ohhhhhh.... and now, years later, you all have to read this crap. I think that's only fair! Don't you think that's fair? I think it's fair.
My 02 Civic LX is now my youngest brother's first car. 275k miles on the original motor and transmission. The thing won't die.
"It's bigger on the inside, a tardis or a stripper"
-mr. Regular
LEGOStudios9083 like a tardis or a stripper
I thought that's what he said, lol.
This car makes me love my '94 Peugeot 205 1.1i even more: it usually under-steers when the road is wet, but on a certain rainy day, when going 70 km/h it decided to go from under-steer to over-steer. My years of playing racing games (and practicing in real-life snow) finally payed off: counter-steering and holding the throttle made me catch the slide.
I currently own this car and I abuse the hell out of it. It's steering and handling is great as long as you're not mashing down the throttle in a corner. It will effortlessly take turns as long as you're going "the safe speed". The suspension feels great, not much roll, but still very comfortable. I love this car, its the king of practicality.
Perhaps the most regular car review in Regular Car Reviews. Great video, as usual Mr. Regular!
I'm really surprised Mr. Regular hasn't reviewed the ULTIMATE regular car. The Camry.
thecarexpert21 he has
Probably not three years ago. BROWN BROWN BROWN BROWN EZRA POUND!!
It is a bitch. People in my country because it is a Camry it is Toyota and guess what when they get old they cost even more in maintenance specially the suspension. I know 2 cancelled the car because it suspension cost. Fuck Toyota.
FF8 Eyes on Me outro. Very classy. I love you guys' nerdy inside jokes. It truly closes the gap between nerd and gearhead.
This is hilarious. I own that same car, trimline, year, and color. And yes it's bigger on the inside (moved across the country twice with it).
Traded up to a WRX
Awesome Video. My 2 cents on the 7th Gen Civic is that this was the best damn little car that I have driven for a person that did not know how to drive a car. Unlike my little Subie DL that I had in high school and college, this car was not fast off the line, nor would it break loose the front tires and push its way around the upside of a mountain road at 55 MPH (tires were clocking close to 75 mph), but it was predictable. It had slightly better than acceptable acceleration at highway speeds if you learned how to take advantage of the missing gate between D3 and D4 on the shifter (You didn't mention the missing gate between D3 and D4.) This had to be the best car for a person who does not know how to drive a car. And better than that, this is the best car for a person who does not aspire to be a better driver on the highway. It is an amazing piece of engineering and is really the ultimate "appliance" car.
I'd go with a previous gen EK9, or an EG6 because of the double wishbone front suspension, which from what I've heard supposedly is that civic (EK9,EG6 and other 5th & 6th gen models) has one of the best suspension systems found on any passenger car.
YEP! So glad someone else mentioned this! Once this gen came out, a lot of Honda guys I knew abandoned ship on the brand! Between this thing and the RSX there was a lot of frustration with Honda!
***** Well, I don't think they're any more likely to rotate with the factory setup, lots of people just feel that the double wishbone style of suspension is a lot better platform to mod on. TeamIntegra.net has some GREAT suspension articles if you're interested. They're pretty much civic relevant too. They explain the differences of both and advantages and disadvantages of both.
***** rather buy a $500 shell and an h23 blue top and build that up
***** ugly, they rust out hardcore like every dodge, and power really doesnt mean anything because for cheap you can double the power. look at SRT4's people blow them up all the time haha. civics also out handle neons wierdly enough.
Robby94LS I've owned two EG6s (an SiR II and an SiR), have driven two DC2 Integra Type R's, and an EK9. I now own a DC5 Integra Type R, and I will say without a doubt that the DC5 Type R is the best Honda I've ever driven.
I'm so glad Harold is back!! My business accounts needed businessing
Saab Sonett
Broh.
I'm planning on a vacation in the spring, when would you like the keys?
This needs to finally happen
Noah Dalton He knows I'm here..
Amesie's Corner Shoot him an email mate. You'll be able to set up something with him there
Saab.
He should just meet some of us saab guys in Carlisle
This is actually a pretty fun car if you don't expect too much out of it. I really love driving mine, and I've drove quite a few different cars.
Much like my '98 Corolla, the Civic was designed to be a reliable people mover for non-enthusiasts. It's bland and boring, and that's by design---bland and boring appeals to alot of people. I only bought my Corolla because I had x amount of $$$$, and I needed something reliable right away (wanted a Celica).
You made a good point in that vid, and the point is that reliability sells cars. The 18 year old kid's first car was an old Honda, and it was as reliable as a bank vault....a few years later, he's got a good job and more disposable income, and he remembers how reliable that Honda was---he buys a new one. I know a guy in his early 50's that has driven only Toyotas for the last 25 years....brand loyalty.
is Mr. Plinkett going to make a guest appearance so he can argue with Mr. Slovisnki about cars
I would splooge for that crossover...even if it was just a beer podcast.
Do a Ford Taurus lol
He already did a Mercury Sable...
Even had the Vulcan V6!
I seriously want him to do a gen 1or2 AND 3 SHO!!!
Bill Bailey Yes, someone needs to lend him a SHO (Preferably the early Yamaha ones...)
kasm279 I completely agree...
I wanna see some love for the mighty YAMAHAMMER!!!
The Gen 3 V8 is a rolling joke he could do a half hour video about the flaws in that car (I had 2, by the way)
For some reason still loved them!
BB Bill Ah, there were more issues than the cam sprockets?
kasm279 i used to have one of those SHO's ahhhh. i would totally let him review it if i still had it xD
props for the FF8 tune at the end.
The non regular review for the regular car
This is peak, classic, RCR. And I love it.
I've been driving a 01 Civic EX for 14 years that I bought new. It's modified with high performance summer tires, Koni adjustable shocks, high lb. Springs, sway bars, polyurethane suspension bushings, chassis reinforcement among other engine and interior exterior mods. And I can assure you that the car can be a lot of fun and has such a high limit that I have yet to have the balls to find it on the street. It corners unbelievably fast and has made several friends into Honda believers. When I bought it I said I would drive it into the ground or until I could race it abd here we are and I'm running my first track day with it in several months.
Classic case of polishing a turd.
I was not expecting an " Eyes on Me" reference in 2022
It's the car, for the person, who does the thing thing, some of the times, usually.
Amazing even now
I like that 'Eyes on You' ending. LOL!
that parody of Eyes on Me caught me off guard
Is that ending song "Eyes on Me?"
+Brian C (Teddy) never mind. That is most definitely "Eyes on Me." Love it.
+Brian C (Teddy) thank you. I was wondering what it was.
yup
Lets not forget MULTIPLE airbag recalls. A year later I'm still liking it. And the instability went away when I got the stupid out of the brakes.
Yep, LOVE my 2002!
The accuracy of this review is uncanny. I had a white 99' LX. Super clean, tinted windows, lowered on coilovers. The coilovers killed a lot of the understeer and with the sporty tires I had it was hard to lose control. But stock, it would just push...
Whatever, I have a Miata now! Track day, bro!
7th gen Civic was my first car, then I got an e30. Such a big upgrade in terms of driving experience.
I hate this gen Civic. They took the long lasting quality, fun and timelessness out of the previous gen and delivered this uninspired heap of nothingness. The 6th gen still looks more fresh than the 7th. No Type R, not even a Japanese Si. The beginning of Honda's laziness. All the civics to follow have never matched the build quality of the tanks that the 6th gen was.
I don't even think of US Civics starting that one as the actual Civics, look at the rest of the world. Nobody will accuse of EU/JP 2005 model of not being bold or fun.
I haven't seen anything close to the EH2s either. Those were light, quick, and I've never had more fun driving a stock car than when I drove a stock EH2
First time I saw one of those here in Trinidad the guy did a k20 swap ,that shit was hella quick!!
I LOVE THESE VIDEO SERIES. CURES ALL MY PROBLEMS AND DISEASES PERMANENTLY
Never thought I'd hear an 'Eyes On Me' parody in a car review haha!
That was the first car I ever rode in. A 2000 or 2001 Honda Civic. That was the car that brought me home just after my birth. It had a manual transmission, manual windows and was in a dark green colour.W We had this car until 2008, when we bought a new Mitsubishi Outlander.
Édouard Murdoch youngin
best car in the world honestly. It just, is a car, a good car. Nothing modern will compete with the simple a to b reliability of this car. At least not from a reputable brand, there may be versas or some shit for kids 20 years down the road but those have a eastern european style crash saftey, essentially a strong enough to protect you from running over a gypsie and that is it. Long live the civic.
Stuff in more safety than that and we're simply betraying Darwin and helping idiots to breed and making our cars inexorably slower and less efficient. EE safety best safety.
If you have one and want it to over steer on the track, the recipe is quite simple and cheap. Use an angle grinder to cut out the front sway bar, install a 21-26mm rear sway bar, and lower the vehicle. This model as well as the coupe do not need a rear strut bar, as the struts are reinforced by a thick frame rail in the trunk. I have not experimented with a front strut bar yet, but as of yet the handling is already amazing. Rear sway bars can bolt directly in from the Civic EP3 "si" or the RSX and can be found for pennies at a local scrap yard. Lowering is up to how much you want to spend/how comfortable you want the ride. The power is crap but If you have the D17a2 a Crower stage 1 camshaft is a worthy/cheap modification, the car will still be slow but lessor so.
Imho, a fwd car that oversteers(like you said the Fiesta does) is a bad thing for regular people. Catching oversteer on a fwd car is HARD for regular non-car-people. Now, please correct me if I'm wrong, but don't fwd cars usually violently swing back the other way because people overcorrect it(due to weight transfering from one side to the other), and then slam into the wall with even more force on the other side of the road. Whereas just letting it spin out without correcting usually results in the car staying on the road.
When I had a fwd hatchback, I once nearly spun out in the snow, but corrected it. It then swung the other way much more suddenly than it did innitially. The only reason I managed to not crash, is because I decided to hold the accelerator down, so it pulled the front end out of that second slide.. But most people wouldn't do that, and then try to correct it again.
I believe the Civic is meant to understeer because fwd understeer is much easier to catch according to manufacturers. You just let off the gas to get more weight on the front wheels, straighten the wheel *a bit* and then start steering again... At least that's what I've learned in an anti-skid program.
Personally I drive an old Bmw E36, and even that car is alligned to understeer rather than oversteer. I spun that car in the rain once and just let it spin, because I knew my driving skills weren't good enough to catch it and I'd just end up in the ditch on the other side. By letting it go it stayed on the road and I had no damage, other than my ego..
If you lose it in a fwd car all you have to do is give it a little juice and it'll behave itself
iamstd2 That's the thing though, most regular people wouldn't do that. They think "Oh no I'm starting to skid, better hit the brakes"...
Mythbuster Yeah, I agree, regular people WILL just hit the brakes! I've seen it in other cars and I've been in the car when people have done it. Most non drivers reaction to ANYTHING abnormal is to just hit the breaks! I'm always drilling into my wife that sometimes the gas pedal will get you OUT of bad situations! It's got me out PLENTY of times!
iamstd2 eh, some of them. some of them do very bad things when the front wheels are loose. all cars should have LSD
Haha, I have an E36 and I nearly understeered into a bridge offramp divider in the snow, I know for a fact it doesn't like to oversteer until you decide to hoon :D
I never once complained about the weight of my baritone sax thank you. And god bless the drum line.
Dan Arnits, who likes the drugs his kids like?
DAN ARNITS, WHO IS DOING HIS WIFE?!
DIS IS THA DRUG DA KIDS LIKE
STILL driving it. This car will outlive me.
Please review 98-02 Honda Accord! I have one, and I'd love to hear what you have to say about that lmao :P
I have a 99 LX, and I went through one. My mom had the car for years before me and it went out around 150k I believe. Other than that, it's just been simple things, and I abused the car when I first got it. I didn't even change the oil back then lol, I do now, but I was an idiot when I first got it lol
YES DO THAT
My mom bought an ex (inline 4) and that thing is a slug. 150hp/138ft-lbs in a sedan? Seriously? It does handle, thought, if you know what you're doing. Beware: the back door links might fall off and you'll never open them.
That FInal Fantasy 8 outro!!!! I think one of my favorite things is simply trying to guess which video game (usually JPRG) OST you guys are going to use!
"Why should it understeer in the first place?" he says, while we all still have the image of a shopping cart full of window weights bumping into things in our minds.
lovin the simplicity of these 90s' family cars
Do an old Jeep Wagoneer! I love those things! :D
Especially the earlier ones, before all that electronic crap caused electrical issues...
Ye-ah
Currently got a 1998 Lx. Love it and its never let me down
Lmfao REALLY the civic song is Eyes On Me from Final Fantasy VIII !!!
I've gone from a 1989 Accord to a 7th gen Civic for grad school and I've come to love it. One of these days I would love to be an enthusiast but I just need something to get me through the next couple years.
I was always told that the honda civic was the .22 rifle of cars, boring, common, and underpowered.
But at the same time, a .22 can be fun, interesting. and good to learn the fundamentals on
But at the same time, a .22 can be fun, interesting. and good to learn the fundamentals on
But at the same time, a .22 can be fun, interesting. and good to learn the fundamentals on
4traxx true enough
This x3
Ah, now this is the RCR I remember. Not that I didn't enjoy all the Lotus, Ferrari, and Challenger SRT videos, but this is REGULAR car reviews.
The ending is final fantasy 8 song "eyes on me." What the hell is that doing here
Both my parents had one of these when I was growing up, an 03 and an 04. It understeers forever until it suddenly doesn't and then you're completely out of control. No lead up, just understeering...understeering...BAM! SIDEWAYS. Very hard to regain control. Nearly crashed it at Laguna Seca of all places after many laps of constant slidy understeer. Difficult clutch too.
But also the most unobtrusive car I've ever driven. Always found myself asking to borrow it when I was tired and didn't want to deal with another car. You could drive it comfortably for days.
We have a 2014 Honda Civic that we bought in late 2013, it's a great car, 'nuff said. It is not a Lexus or a Cadillac, but it will get you from point A to point B while maintaining excellent fuel economy and superb reliability, it doesn't have luxury amenities, but it does the job. The Civic is what a car should be, basic transportation, nothing else.
Sorry but your view of a car is so simplistic. A car is or can be more than just basic transportation. It can be an emotional connection, a toy, a status symbol, a conversation starter, an extension of you. Obviously you are simplistic therefor you have a Honda Civic. LOL
***** I am not simplistic, I simply believe a car such as the Civic is simplistic, the Civic we own is actually the Touring model, top-of-the-line fully loaded with all the bells and whistles, I just think the Civic is car that carries out what it was made for, when Henry Ford made the Model T, he created it as a method of transportation to make horseback travelling obsolete, but times have changed and a car is no longer what it was, yet the Civic is a car that represents what an automobile was.
Sorry my comment came off a bit negative. I am not saying that simplicity is necessarily a bad thing though. I just misinterpreted you comment. I felt like you meant all automobiles should be as simple as a Civic. I apologize.
***** Frankly, I should apologize due to the lack of my opinion being unsupported and delivering a message that was not intended, it is not your fault, I'll be careful next time to add more detail and have motives behind an opinion. Apologies
Civic si can do all of that while being fun.i own one 08 :)
I currently have an 03 EX coupe in manual. I have a blast with this little thing.
You won't get a better handling car than a Honda Civic of this generation.
Michael Burke a mustang has better handling
Owned one for 8 years it was a former total loss. Hardly did oil changes , timing belt mah never did it. It was bullet proof! 550 km city driving per 40 litre tank it was awesome
I just got a Hyundai Elantra advertisement comparing it's self to a Honda civic lx
This was actually my first car, i had the manual 2 door EX coupe though. I feel like since it was such a safe car my teenage brain told me to push it ever harder. I never wrecked it, crazy chicks dumped water in the gas tank, keyed it, and kicked in the rear quarter panel trying to kill a spider but it kept going. e-brake slides, burnouts and weekends of racing in on backroads against friends outbacks and ford escapes. I loved the little car(still do). I think it made me appreciate cars more, yea it made me want to get something RWD to have what i though would be more "fun" The civic never let me down and no matter how hard i tried to get it to get dangerous in the turns it just wouldn't. Not that you couldn't really go at the turns, it would take them but never felt like it was going to bite back.
Drive a 6th gen Civic, or even better, a 5th gen, they handle so much better because they have Double-Wishbone suspension as opposed to to 7th gen+ with their Macpherson Struts
DBL wish bone started with the 4th gen
Perfect just perfect, I'm a 19 y/o with the exact model, exact year. YOU SIR HAVE NAILED IT!
FF8 closer made this video 11/10.
I bought a 2002 Civic LX coupe, 5-speed, loved it to death. It makes regular tooling around town to be as fun as can be.
I haven't noticed much understeer. If anything mine oversteers heavily on corner lift-off.
But I have much better wheels/tires than stock.
+Furkan Turfanda then RCR is right and it is because of the tires.
Mine has replaced tires too and it corners really well, although I've only had limited experience with other cars since like RCR said, its my first car
Yep I put summer tires on my stock 92 and I run out of courage before the car runs out of grip.
I tried to pull a drift and understeered into a curb.
Yeah, just looking at the tires that are on their, they're the kind that are advertised as being eco tires. Even on a proper set of all seasons, it'll corner in the dry pretty well in my opinion. The same issue with those low friction tires can be experienced when driving in the rain and trying to corner the same way.
This was the first generation to adopt macpherson strut suspension in the front, instead of double wishbone all around so perhaps that is a contributing factor in its understeer.
Would love to see a 90's Thunderbird or Cougar.
Andy Scheier cougars are amazing 😏
Holy Hell, was that a rendition of Eyes on Me at the end? I love this channel!
Head gasket problems
+Tom Nick I fart too much. I don't trust them.
Cool, thanks for replying :D
+RegularCars That clockwork Orange reference though.
what do you mean?
D17 problems
a civic was my first car, and i did grow to appreciate it. my dad steered me away from getting a 240, and thank fuck for it.
Most of these I see on the road are that awful gray/silver color. Terrible color IMO.
For the record our bari sax player was 6’2 and 275 of pure muscle soooo he was carrying his bari with one hand and by trombone with the other….but yeah…..understeer
This car is faster than a bmw 525 from the same era. Ha!
The song at the end really brings me back. It's the game I feel most nostalgic for.