HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO CATCH EVERY PATTERN OF SPINDA?

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
  • You asked, and I delivered. In my Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald Catch 'em All video, I joked about catching every pattern of Spinda, and an insane amount of people asked for that video. If you liked the video leave a like! Comment a video you'd like to see! Have a great day :)
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  • @9Tailsfan
    @9Tailsfan 5 лет назад +4088

    Catching one shiny Spinda is an accomplishment in itself. My shiny Spinda won't look like somebody else 's shiny Spinda.

    • @bex--
      @bex-- 5 лет назад +192

      9Tailsfan damn now I want a shiny spinda.

    • @Filthy_Cubes
      @Filthy_Cubes 5 лет назад +150

      To be honest it is unlikely that more than 2 other Spindas will look exactly like yours

    • @JoshPowlison
      @JoshPowlison 5 лет назад +121

      I saw a shiny Spinda once, but was a confused noob and didn't catch it. :/

    • @neoall-rounder2403
      @neoall-rounder2403 5 лет назад +105

      once i saw a shiny voltorb and it used self destruct on its first turn... I never told my brothers.

    • @tamaraadams1072
      @tamaraadams1072 5 лет назад +13

      Yeah same its my favourite shiny that I have. No one else has one. :D

  • @littlesaresare
    @littlesaresare 5 лет назад +4409

    John: "If we're going to catch all 4 billion Spinda, the first thing we need to work out is the best game for it."
    Me: "No, the first thing we need to work out is immortality."

    • @venor2612
      @venor2612 5 лет назад +8

      Lmao

    • @SJNaka101
      @SJNaka101 5 лет назад +226

      If you wish to bake an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe

    • @drecknathmagladery9118
      @drecknathmagladery9118 5 лет назад +25

      @@SJNaka101 a true statement indeed

    • @goreobsessed2308
      @goreobsessed2308 5 лет назад +2

      Your not wrong

    • @PokeMaster22222
      @PokeMaster22222 5 лет назад +39

      And getting cartridges or computers to work for 6000+ years continuously, without entropy reducing them to dust.

  • @flatoutalliance
    @flatoutalliance 5 лет назад +2436

    Everyone: Gen 8 speculation videos
    John: I catch every possible spinda pattern

    • @shinysilverstardust
      @shinysilverstardust 5 лет назад +37

      Well, at least he isn't putting flipin' leaks in the thumbnail or title

    • @seank.cunningham3841
      @seank.cunningham3841 5 лет назад +23

      @UnknownSoldier9865 Tmw people say this after 2 minutes of gameplay.

    • @Smiley_Face0
      @Smiley_Face0 5 лет назад

      @UnknownSoldier9865 yOs

    • @sonydelha1784
      @sonydelha1784 5 лет назад

      @eva wathcu mean, they're supposed to talk about it like that lmao. The company released a bunch of hype so that fans COULD do that and spread the word, leading to more people buying their games lolol

    • @walkingcorpse1224
      @walkingcorpse1224 5 лет назад

      Well I'm sure there's a device we can use to just make each spinda according to possible design, sort of a like a really, really, really forced cheat.

  • @zircon7634
    @zircon7634 5 лет назад +2449

    I think a more manageable challenge is to find 2 identical spinda.

    • @pepethefrog5182
      @pepethefrog5182 5 лет назад +186

      2 identical shiny spinda, i think it's impossible, probably the hardest thing you can do

    • @JamesFragwurdig
      @JamesFragwurdig 5 лет назад +43

      @@pepethefrog5182 Na the shiny Spindas have the 4 billion versions too.

    • @pepethefrog5182
      @pepethefrog5182 5 лет назад +42

      Yes but they are shiny, so it is more harder than 2 Non-shiny identical Spinda

    • @JamesFragwurdig
      @JamesFragwurdig 5 лет назад +9

      @@pepethefrog5182 Ah ok. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

    • @pepethefrog5182
      @pepethefrog5182 5 лет назад +7

      @@JamesFragwurdig np

  • @Oboromaru
    @Oboromaru 5 лет назад +884

    I once had a spinda in sapphire which had 2 spots on its head which looked perfectly centered over its eyes (like he just had red eyes). I loved it. Then I transferred it to diamond a few years later when that game game out. The spot on it's right eye became slightly off-center once i took a look at it in diamond, so I guess that particular spot wasnt perfectly centered in the original game like I thought.
    It irked me so much LOL

    • @callmegravy
      @callmegravy 5 лет назад +28

      1:15 On the left

    • @jakemcgoldrick3552
      @jakemcgoldrick3552 5 лет назад +4

      One of Pokémon go’s 9 spinda forms has red eyes just like that

    • @zjzr08
      @zjzr08 5 лет назад +16

      I think Diamond's sprite having a different pose probably is a cause of this where the spot position didn't change but the base Spinda did.

    • @David-vc9hr
      @David-vc9hr 5 лет назад +1

      The audacity!

    • @D0NTHEMAN
      @D0NTHEMAN 3 года назад +1

      I got a spinda wich looked exactly like Pikachu
      Sadly, it's in a emulator. So I probably won't be able to transfer it to anywhere

  • @LadyBrightcynder
    @LadyBrightcynder 5 лет назад +1979

    This is the kind of theoretical insanity I live for.

    • @JTRogue151
      @JTRogue151 5 лет назад +18

      I got a better one for you how long would it take to catch a shiny variant of each spinda?

    • @abitofsupport601
      @abitofsupport601 5 лет назад +15

      @@JTRogue151 simple. multiply the number of variations by 8192 and pray to god you are that lucky

    • @Malcador-TWOM
      @Malcador-TWOM 5 лет назад +4

      @@JTRogue151 it would take almost 300 billion YEARS to catch every shiny variant of spinda counting that you are perfectly lucky.

    • @Malcador-TWOM
      @Malcador-TWOM 5 лет назад +2

      Mb it would only take 73,527,012.14551 years to catch all shiny variants of spinda

    • @amir-zz7lz
      @amir-zz7lz 5 лет назад

      It’s actually high school level math, it’s just a bunch of complicated calculations

  • @AylinDawn
    @AylinDawn 5 лет назад +940

    Me at 10pm: I'm gonna sleep early tonight.
    Me at 3am:

  • @twixdakat1135
    @twixdakat1135 5 лет назад +1349

    If you collect all the Spinda variants, a Dragonite will fly to your location and deliver a special Spinda ribbon to you.

  • @Reac2
    @Reac2 5 лет назад +897

    What if there is an illusive spotless Spinda? Also what is the mathematical chance that there is still a Spinda out there that no human has ever seen?

    • @veryasian8810
      @veryasian8810 5 лет назад +92

      Damn, tip of the iceberg huh?

    • @pumpkingreg6673
      @pumpkingreg6673 5 лет назад +114

      There was one I found that I THOUGHT was spotless, but had one on it's neck.

    • @byroncardoza8032
      @byroncardoza8032 5 лет назад +13

      I have a spinda that has one spot missing

    • @jimmyh2137
      @jimmyh2137 5 лет назад +57

      @@camthesaxman3387 The thing is, it's possible to have one (or more) spot with the coordinate being OUTSIDE Spinda' sprite. So you can't see it, it's not on the body at all.

    • @hzlink
      @hzlink 5 лет назад +7

      All spinda have 4 spots, the only thing that changes is where the spots are placed

  • @graylynch1271
    @graylynch1271 5 лет назад +323

    Alot of patterns would be so close that the pixel art couldn't give 2 different images.

  • @Missingno0479
    @Missingno0479 5 лет назад +291

    Imagine this being a collaborative effort between a bunch of poketubers. Of course it would be easier to use the strategy of documentation of every spinda form rather then catching them. They could even have some kind of cause attached to it like live streams charitys. If they succeed this could go down in video game history.

    • @phil.
      @phil. 5 лет назад +9

      Get a youtuber whos got a million subs and its gonna get done!

    • @brontome
      @brontome 5 лет назад +50

      Pewdiepie "catching every spinda to beat t-series"

    • @liltone9614
      @liltone9614 5 лет назад +4

      Honestly just get pewpediepie to do it then you’re done

    • @PeanutTechno
      @PeanutTechno 5 лет назад

      100th like! :D

    • @Usario321
      @Usario321 5 лет назад +3

      Kenneth Loehr yeah, not gonna happen

  • @plant8732
    @plant8732 5 лет назад +235

    Scary Fun Fact: If you use the cute charm glitch in gen 4 which makes it super easy to find shinies by making all pokemon have certain Pokémon IDs, you can get 2 identical shiny spinda with relative ease.

    • @beta511ee4
      @beta511ee4 5 лет назад +4

      What is this Cute Charm glitch you're talking about?

    • @fplflair4792
      @fplflair4792 5 лет назад +3

      @@beta511ee4 Search it up, you'll find out.

    • @justaguythatsbadateverythi2499
      @justaguythatsbadateverythi2499 5 лет назад +2

      I wish I could do that
      But I can't RNG for it and powersave doesn't work in hgss

    • @azelfdaboi5265
      @azelfdaboi5265 5 лет назад +3

      The issue is, if you encounter 2 of the same shiny, it crashes

    • @lilpetz500
      @lilpetz500 4 года назад +12

      @@azelfdaboi5265 Only when encountered simultaneously. In gen 4, there is no way to make this happen luckily.
      The glitch makes shinies have about a 21.34% chance of spawning every encounter, just over 1 in 5 encounters will statistically be shiny. So like, I think the chances of getting 2 of the same spinda patterns shiny would be about 5 times the identical spinda number of 8,589,934,592. That would make it about a 1 in 4,299,672,960 chance that you will get 2 of the same shiny.
      Best way to actually do this is the Emerald RNG glitch; RNG clones are generated in that game and the frame numbers count up from zero every time the game is booted. So if the particular save file has a shiny frame that happens quickly after startup, running around on the spinda route immediately is likely to come up with a shiny. And since this same early frame determines a bunch of other Pokemon values including spot pattern, hitting the early shiny frame will hit the same spot pattern frame, complete with same stats and everything!
      Other Pokemon games don't restart the frame count from zero on opening, so only Emerald has this glitch.

  • @KokuroSame
    @KokuroSame 5 лет назад +260

    John: "So I'm starting to think it might not be possible in 24 hours."
    Me: It'll be close for sure.

    • @AquaFan1998
      @AquaFan1998 4 года назад +5

      Yea you could do it in 24 hours, monkeys and type writers style, if you had infinate monkeys and gbs with the cartrage, your golden 😂

  • @ravenwraith1017
    @ravenwraith1017 5 лет назад +897

    Next task once you finish this one: Capture a shiny pokérus infected version of every variation of Spinda :D

    • @icecontrol2571
      @icecontrol2571 5 лет назад +218

      Next task. Capture a shiny pokerus infected version of each gender with each ability with perfect IVs of every variation. :D

    • @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441
      @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441 5 лет назад +11

      @@icecontrol2571 Dam! I would die doing that challenge out of boredom lol!

    • @thatoneguy8948
      @thatoneguy8948 5 лет назад +38

      @@Illcobalt not gunna lie, I can see that being hell

    • @thatoneguy8948
      @thatoneguy8948 5 лет назад +4

      @@Illcobalt hahaha

    • @user-mq1ng6sj7b
      @user-mq1ng6sj7b 5 лет назад +14

      @@icecontrol2571 Hell in all parallel universes in all timelines would freeze over before this happened even if everyone on the planet teemed up to catch every conceivable variation of every spinda and only ate slept and drank when absolutely necessary

  • @XperimentorEES
    @XperimentorEES 5 лет назад +295

    There's another complication you missed, you can only hold a maximum of 99 repeat balls at a time, further extending the time by a magnitude to account for more inventory management, multiple times per trip.

    • @Raizex97
      @Raizex97 5 лет назад +44

      If I remember correctly in gen 3 games you could have multiple stacks of the same item

    • @mercenaryforhire3453
      @mercenaryforhire3453 5 лет назад +11

      Just tested, can confirm

  • @Webster2000
    @Webster2000 5 лет назад +578

    when i was like 7 i decided to try and catch every spinda pattern in Ruby
    I found a shiny Sandshrew as I was running to the poke mart to buy more balls

    • @moonfusion9964
      @moonfusion9964 5 лет назад +19

      Clueless White Kid Studios Rip

    • @usernamewoa
      @usernamewoa 5 лет назад +10

      That Sandshrew was a troll

    • @Webster2000
      @Webster2000 5 лет назад +32

      @@usernamewoamf made me cry in the gym lobby smh

    • @ultimateking2238
      @ultimateking2238 5 лет назад +6

      Legend says you are still attempting this legendary feat.

    • @quinnzoee
      @quinnzoee 5 лет назад

      Same

  • @Shirae
    @Shirae 5 лет назад +115

    Actually after the 255th rematch of the tv crew, you can still rematch them. They just stop changing routes. You can still rematch them, which cuts away the walking to the new locations.

  • @Toadmelon
    @Toadmelon 4 года назад +42

    "In this pokémon game there is going to be 4 billion+ pokémon!"
    "Woah!"
    "Most of them will be patterns of spinda."
    "Oh."

  • @kylef7491
    @kylef7491 5 лет назад +56

    As a mathematician, this is my favorite video in a long time. My mathematical thoughts:
    • Did you consider lowering the number for effectively identical spindas, like if two spots are in the same place, or dot 1 is gone on one and dot 2 is missing on the other? I’m not sure this concept is even valid with the spot generation, but worth a shot.
    • You’d be nearly guaranteed to catch thousands of shinies, as catching a smaller number becomes increasingly unlikely. Think of rolling a die 100 times. What are the odds 6 never comes up? Extremely low.
    • If emulation is allowed, we could theoretically design a program to play these games at lightning turbo speed to jettison the playtime away from thousands of years. It takes a computer a fraction of time to o things like this that take a person longer.
    • How many spindas (or other Pokémon) would get to level 100 by fighting the elite 4 as many times as required?
    • Breeding. Hatch 5 spindas while just moving between encounters, repeat.
    I love your videos and this one tops the cake for me. Looking forward to more content in the future.

    • @jimmyh2137
      @jimmyh2137 5 лет назад +6

      - It's possible to have overlapping Spots. This lowers the patterns considerably.
      - It's possible to have Spots generating OUTSIDE Spinda Sprite.
      - You are (nearly) guaranteed to catch shinies but the number of shinies is very flexible. Think of rolling 10 dice 100 times each, every one of them will most definitely have a different amount of "6" rolling (in theory you have a range of 0 to 100 rolls with "6" but realistically between 10 and 25 rolls of "6")
      - With emulation and auto-pilot, let's say the game works 100 times faster. Result = original time/100. Easy.
      - You can kill the League with the same Spinda every time. If you WANT to have many lv100 Spinda then:
      [1] check the EXP gain for every pkmn in the league (write it down the first time);
      [2] Add everything. Eventually take into account your Lucky egg and/or Exp Share;
      [3] Spinda needs 800'000 exp to get to lv100, you catch it at lv14 or 15 or 16 (3rd Gen). Avg is lv15. Exp at lv15 = 2'700 exp. You need 797'300 exp.
      [4] Check how many "league wins" to reach 797'300 exp.
      [5] Total "league wins" / "league needed for ONE Spinda" = Number of lv100 Spinda
      - Breading takes time to fly back and forth, boxing and re-filling with eggs. This won't save much time, if any. It's indeed possible that you're wasting more time instead but I'm not sure, needs work to calculate.

  • @PebbsBun
    @PebbsBun 5 лет назад +59

    "How long would it take to catch every pattern of Spinda in its shiny form?"
    "Yes"

    • @D0NTHEMAN
      @D0NTHEMAN 3 года назад +1

      10 years later: are you winning, son?

  • @FLYNN_TAGGART
    @FLYNN_TAGGART 5 лет назад +113

    There's a program called Spinda Painter that lets you calculate the personality value after drawing the four dots yourself.

    • @Xx_Oleander_xX
      @Xx_Oleander_xX 5 лет назад +1

      can you link it?

    • @Xx_Oleander_xX
      @Xx_Oleander_xX 5 лет назад +11

      wait is this it pokemon.thundaga.com/spinda/Spinda%20Painter.htm

  • @TheDoctorDahl
    @TheDoctorDahl 5 лет назад +239

    This kind of maths problem is actually called the "Coupon collector's problem", and by my calculations one could expect to see every pattern of Spinda (not including their shiny variants) in 97,744,545,502 encounters. This is, surprisingly enough, "only" 22.76 times more than the 2^32 you based the rest of the calculations on.
    So your 6,000 year journey is more likely a 137,000 year journey.
    I wish you good luck!

    • @HopUpOutDaBed
      @HopUpOutDaBed 5 лет назад +32

      this is what I came here for and was kind of mad he didn't calculate how many encounters it would take to see every one of them with an >90% probability or something.

    • @genessab
      @genessab 5 лет назад +1

      David Garcia bc he’s not good at math?

    • @exantiuse497
      @exantiuse497 5 лет назад +8

      @@HopUpOutDaBed You are severely overestimating the mathematical ability of the average Pokemon RUclipsr. There is a Pokemon video in RUclips where the guy unironically suggests that shiny Pokemon prove that 0=1 (I'm not kidding, the video is called "5 Pokemon paradoxes" or something, go see for yourself)

    • @NaskaRudd
      @NaskaRudd 5 лет назад

      @@exantiuse497 are you on about TheAuraGuardian's Pokemon paradoxes? In that he says that each encounter has a small chance to be shiny, and each encounter is an independent variable, so therefore every encounter is simultaneously nornal and a shiny up until it is triggered in which it becomes defined as either one of the two fields.

    • @exantiuse497
      @exantiuse497 5 лет назад

      @@NaskaRudd Wtf, I think we're talking about different videos, the one I'm talking about didn't say anything like that

  • @Crossark1
    @Crossark1 5 лет назад +375

    I’m about four and a half minutes in and I just HAVE to point out that, like Unown, the REAL number of possible patterns Spinda can have is limited by the amount of distinct sprites GameFreak actually put in the game. Doubtless there’s an algorithm to divide each of the 4 billion permutations of personality codes amongst X number of actual sprites were drawn up, but if there’s 4 billion ways to get one of, say, 6 sprites, then it’s a cake walk. Going back to Unown, for example, there are 256 ways of encountering one out of 28 possible sprites. 256/28 is the actual ratio for a particular sprite’s appearance rate. For Spinda, we have roughly 4 Billion/X as the ratio, so we most likely just need to do a lot of trial and error to narrow down that X value to a reasonable degree of certainty. Either that or, y’know, some data mining of the game files would probably just show how many discrete sprites there are for Spinda.
    The only conceivable situation in which Spinda could have more than 4 billion sprites would be if one of the games had a built in procedural generation graphical engine, mapping color onto the base Spinda model based on each personality code for a “unique” pattern every time. Of course, this would pose a lot of other problems - anyone could understand how such an engine would quickly grow in size to dwarf the rest of the game code. However, the real downfall of this hypothetical would be that the models wouldn’t really be “unique” - at least not in significant enough ways to make it worth the technical behemoth powering this exercice in randomness. In practice, the difference between two results in a graphical mapping function based on adjacent permutations in a dataset of over 4 billion variables would be so slight that it wouldn’t be perceptible by humans, slashing the number of apparent formes by leagues. And, of course, that’s assuming that the difference in what’s mapped in theory to 4 billion models can even be parsed within the technical constraints of the device display. Even IF the game could run with all that baggage, the display of a 3DS would almost certainly not have granular enough real estate to display a difference of, say, 2/15 of a pixel of red.
    Tl;dr: GameFreak definitely drafted up a relatively short, pre-set list of Spinda sprites, so really the number of possible formes is limited to the number of sprites, despite the total number of possible personality codes.

    • @Sugarstaches
      @Sugarstaches 5 лет назад +41

      Crossark1 yeah, I’m really intrigued with this concept and wanna know what the actual value is. I’ve done a decent amount of research, but everyone keeps bringing up the 4 billion number. I’ve seen a couple people say ~200 (which is what I’m hoping for), but there’s no evidence. Data miners might be the only answer. : (

    • @Meowmers1219
      @Meowmers1219 5 лет назад +15

      Unless the game procedurally generates a Sprite based on the personality value, which could happen, but I kinda doubt it.

    • @shizotypical
      @shizotypical 5 лет назад +23

      I always thought the sprites are procedurally generated, but even like that, there's no way 4 billion different variations exist. What's the sprite size for Spinda in gen 3? A lot of variations will be like 1 pixel away from each other, you'll probably have to check that personality data every time to differentiate them

    • @mijkolsmith
      @mijkolsmith 5 лет назад +9

      John should revisit this if he ever figures out what X is

    • @Sullenslime
      @Sullenslime 5 лет назад +21

      After a little research, this site: pokemon.thundaga.com/spinda/Spinda%20Painter.htm
      You can enter a number and see the resulting spinda

  • @Red-nw2yn
    @Red-nw2yn 5 лет назад +74

    800+ pokemon is hard to catch em all
    spinda : hold my 4,294,967,296 spots

  • @Crimson_Valor
    @Crimson_Valor 5 лет назад +54

    This should have been an April fools video, either this or the part 1 video of your 6000 year journey.

    • @bossboy191919
      @bossboy191919 5 лет назад +1

      Chuck Norris almost has it done.
      He will complete the challenge in another 254 years, all are shiny though

  • @Thunderbolt5827
    @Thunderbolt5827 5 лет назад +391

    John: I’ll catch every Spinda pattern
    Everyone: Lol that’s so funny 😂😂😂
    John: *actually tries it*
    Everyone: 😮😮😮
    John: Pulled a little sneaky on yah

    • @tjmario64
      @tjmario64 5 лет назад +16

      Next, John'll catch every shiny Spinda pattern!

    • @PepperMcSalt
      @PepperMcSalt 5 лет назад +2

      GarbageHumanTJM64 oh jeez

    • @seanathonhooper
      @seanathonhooper 5 лет назад

      @@dnamewtation And pokerus

  • @TheRibottoStudios
    @TheRibottoStudios 5 лет назад +427

    ....you absolute _madlad._

    • @sektorone1466
      @sektorone1466 5 лет назад

      Pleasant Kenobi?

    • @emanuelecorvino3880
      @emanuelecorvino3880 5 лет назад

      Bufarete?

    • @tabularasa1673
      @tabularasa1673 5 лет назад

      I bet your subscribed to pewdiepie

    • @TheRibottoStudios
      @TheRibottoStudios 5 лет назад

      @@tabularasa1673 we gotta get everyone in on this-t series and pewds are LITERALLY like 6k subs apart now lol it's crazy

    • @DankestLLama
      @DankestLLama 5 лет назад

      Ik im stupid but how do u do italic also SUB TO PEWDS.

  • @Pasloe.
    @Pasloe. 5 лет назад +72

    Luckily I already had max money on two save files! Already at 100 spinda and going strong. Doing my part I wish you luck on the grind!

    • @noahmantoine
      @noahmantoine 5 лет назад +1

      Nintender please tell me this is a joke

    • @Pasloe.
      @Pasloe. 5 лет назад +2

      @@noahmantoine Nah, mate

    • @seanchou9049
      @seanchou9049 5 лет назад

      Pyra best girl

    • @Yoseqlo1
      @Yoseqlo1 5 лет назад +1

      I don't know why there isn't a reddit dedicated to catch/see all spinda. I mean, it they have time to do the Profesor Challenge, they surely can drop a couple decades of their lives.

    • @Super-qr7wm
      @Super-qr7wm 2 года назад +2

      @@Yoseqlo1 ehhh they wont need those we need the spinda

  • @TheBlueye13
    @TheBlueye13 5 лет назад +21

    If you account for multiples you essentialy have a coupon collectors problem. The expected number of catches can then be computed with the following formula.
    k*(ln(k)+gamma)
    Where k is the number of individuals and gamma is the euler constant ~0.57. If we put in 2^32 we get roughly:
    2^32 * (22.75)
    So you will have to multiply your time by this factor of 22.75 in order to get the expected number of encounters needed to find every pattern at least once.

    • @darkmario720
      @darkmario720 5 лет назад +3

      When your math teacher is fishing for a reason why you need math irl

  • @WhiteCaneV1
    @WhiteCaneV1 5 лет назад +87

    Why did Gamefreak code that...
    Are there video games in the afterlife?

    • @blancogohan
      @blancogohan 4 года назад +1

      They didn't make every pattern

  • @Simonumy
    @Simonumy 5 лет назад +24

    Honestly, it would be pretty cool to make this a joint effort, where people can enter the binary combinations they find on a website, so there would be a list of which combinations have been caught already. Then you can see how much time it takes if anyone can help, maybe make a livestream to follow the amount of unique spindas.

    • @TheBlimpFruit
      @TheBlimpFruit 5 лет назад +3

      I feel like it's way too big of a number to even be worth it

  • @MediumDSpeaks
    @MediumDSpeaks 5 лет назад +338

    John, you're a crazy person

    • @PepperMcSalt
      @PepperMcSalt 5 лет назад

      Medium D Speaks but he did it

    • @jayesper4390
      @jayesper4390 5 лет назад

      ...Like trying to play every stage of Blue Sphere...

  • @PokeTips
    @PokeTips 5 лет назад +19

    I'm really happy to see your channel blowing up, you make great content :)

    • @JohnstoneYT
      @JohnstoneYT  5 лет назад +2

      PokeTips Thanks dude, its been a wild month haha. On my personal RUclips account I’ve been following you since (I believe) Sun/Moon, so it’s crazy to see how much you’ve grown too! Enjoy your play button ;)

    • @spaciebun
      @spaciebun 5 лет назад

      Now we wait for Verlis to steal this idea, get called out by both PokeTips and Johnstone, say he's being slandered and rinse + repeat.

  • @cyriszx
    @cyriszx 5 лет назад +99

    Next challange to you: Catch two shiny spinda's with same pattern

    • @TheDanielRagsdale
      @TheDanielRagsdale 5 лет назад +2

      Richard Bright that’s a lot more manageable. If I did my math right, I think it would take about 50,000 spinda to have 50-50 odds of a matching pair.
      Seems like that might barely be possible

    • @usernamewoa
      @usernamewoa 5 лет назад

      I encountered the same pattern regular, not shiny, spinda twice one time-

    • @cyriszx
      @cyriszx 5 лет назад +5

      @@usernamewoa yeah ill take things that never happened for 500 Alex

    • @R0DisG0D
      @R0DisG0D 5 лет назад +2

      @@cyriszx It likely wouldn't have been the exact same pattern, but a lot of them will be 1 pixel off. Also, assuming that a decent portion of the audience played these games and encountered multiple Spinda, chances are a few of them actually encountered Spina with the exact same pattern.

    • @mysterioussoull
      @mysterioussoull 5 лет назад

      I did that before but then i reset the game once i got bored.

  • @iSkAndRispog
    @iSkAndRispog 5 лет назад +19

    Well f*** completing pokedex.
    Completing spinda dex will take 40 lives.

  • @JC-hi8fk
    @JC-hi8fk 5 лет назад +104

    The only time you want a Spinda over a Skarmory

    • @CommaGaming
      @CommaGaming 5 лет назад +2

      OMG dude stop. It's like near that vulcano place next to the old people in the spring bath. You'd legit only get AliExpress Ferrow or gay Pikachu

    • @wertyuser798
      @wertyuser798 5 лет назад

      @@CommaGaming the fuck?

    • @FortHYPEZONE
      @FortHYPEZONE 5 лет назад

      Comma Gaming the fuck?

    • @LoL768491
      @LoL768491 5 лет назад

      @@CommaGaming the fuck?

  • @lindseybrown5648
    @lindseybrown5648 5 лет назад +85

    PLEASE do a recruit em all run for mystery dungeon. It doesn't have to be in 24 hours or anything but well you've done both Let's Go and the first 3 generations sooo do a Mystery Dungeon game please?

    • @MintyCodes
      @MintyCodes 5 лет назад +6

      Preferably one of the originals (R/BRT or EoS/D/T)

    • @abitofsupport601
      @abitofsupport601 5 лет назад +6

      @@MintyCodes IMO those are the only good ones

    • @gallusdomesticus5478
      @gallusdomesticus5478 5 лет назад

      MintyCodes oof some of those encounter and recruitment rates are impossibly low

    • @MintyCodes
      @MintyCodes 5 лет назад

      @@gallusdomesticus5478 Yeah it took me months to recruit them all (without wishing anything in) but it was really fun overall and I think it would be an enjoyable challenge to watch.

    • @gengarzilla1685
      @gengarzilla1685 5 лет назад

      I've gone and done that with Blue Rescue Team, and it was honestly a nightmare. When it came to Chansey I just gave up and got Jirachi's help.

  • @moonstruck69
    @moonstruck69 5 лет назад +40

    I didn’t even know there were multiple patterns on Spinda, damn

    • @chubeviewer
      @chubeviewer 5 лет назад

      Thats cause noone cares about damn spundas

    • @Dawesome97
      @Dawesome97 5 лет назад

      @@chubeviewer spinda was my first shiny. I love spinda

  • @fabianbuchholz8480
    @fabianbuchholz8480 5 лет назад +55

    If every type of spinda has a pokedex entry, how long would it rake to scroll trough a full pokedex once?

    • @frickgoddessofchaos7302
      @frickgoddessofchaos7302 5 лет назад +2

      This spinda has dots above it eyes and below it's mouth

    • @GamerGrovyle
      @GamerGrovyle 5 лет назад +2

      Fabian Buchholz Which game are we talking about?
      Also just realized I can’t remember the last time I used the Pokédex in a Pokémon game... At some point it just became an accessory...

    • @ogloc4478
      @ogloc4478 4 года назад

      You dumb birch

  • @bossapocalypse
    @bossapocalypse 5 лет назад +8

    Imagine if Johnstone found out the secret behind immortality just to catch every pattern of Spinda

  • @PadChennington
    @PadChennington 5 лет назад +97

    ayyyy got something to watch on my lunch break

  • @TheAmazingDeadpool
    @TheAmazingDeadpool 5 лет назад +38

    I've thought about doing a challenge of finding two identical spindas.

    • @zowayix
      @zowayix 5 лет назад +11

      The funny thing is that this is actually doable during Shiny hunting. You have about a 50% chance of finding two identical Spinda patterns within 8 Shiny encounters, which is (barely) plausible for one person to pull off.

    • @breadwizard9808
      @breadwizard9808 5 лет назад +5

      Honestly pretty easy in specifically Emerald, because the RNG always starts from a fixed value when you reset the game. You have to time a frame-perfect encounter the same number of frames after soft reset more than once, but it's still far easier than in any other game.

  • @qwertyuiopzxcfgh
    @qwertyuiopzxcfgh 5 лет назад +5

    I really enjoyed this video, but it raises a question: _how likely is it that every variation of spinda has been seen by any person?_ To answer this question, I would need some information:
    1. _how much games have been sold in which you can encounter Spinda?_ (easy to find online)
    2. _how many Spinda does the average player encounter while playing a game in which Spinda can be found_ (very difficult to answer. I don't think anyone reading this knows for sure how many Spindas they've encountered or can even make a serious estimate. I might need to keep this number as a variable, so I can calculate how many Spindas everyone needs to see to get a reasonable chance of Every variation of Spinda being seen)
    3. _Do trainer owned Spindas look the same for everyone, or are they different for every savegame?_ (I really hope Johnstone can answer this question, because it seems like he's done his research. The answer to this question can add an entire new dimension to the problem, since there are (probably) games in which you can't catch Spinda, but can encounter a trainer that has a Spinda)
    If anyone would like to see me answer this question, please leave a comment, preferably with information about my questions, so I'll remember to do this when I wake up.

  • @ZimoNitrome
    @ZimoNitrome 5 лет назад +23

    Now you're thinking with... maths.

  • @eonshade6297
    @eonshade6297 5 лет назад +5

    "So lets just start with catching four billion Spinda."
    I actually laughed

  • @aures.7365
    @aures.7365 5 лет назад +5

    I've been watching you for a few days (you're often in the recs of one of my frequent watches, Pikasprey) and I must say, your passion for Pokemon really shines through, especially in this vid. You've earned another sub, keep up the fantastic vids!

  • @JonathanMillerMusic
    @JonathanMillerMusic 5 лет назад +19

    John... you need an award for best mathematician in the Poketuber Community. 👏🏼👏🏼💗💗

  • @singingshyguy4046
    @singingshyguy4046 5 лет назад +209

    There are about 9 billion different Spinda forms. You forgot that they can be shiny

    • @fordjames6031
      @fordjames6031 5 лет назад +81

      But the shiny ones have the same patterns, and this video is about catching every pattern of Spinda. Not every version.

    • @singingshyguy4046
      @singingshyguy4046 5 лет назад +15

      @@fordjames6031 they might have the same pattern but they are different colors. it's just getting into semantics here though and is up to each person. I consider them different but I understand it you don't

    • @fordjames6031
      @fordjames6031 5 лет назад +34

      @@singingshyguy4046 You're misunderstanding me. Shiny versions ARE different from normal Spinda, so your original comment is correct - there are apprix. 9 billion different Spinda versions. But Johnstone's video is only on about collecting the different patterns of Spinda. So for each Spinda pattern, there are two versions: normal and shiny. Therefore the video is correct because it's only referring to the unique patterns, not unique versions.

    • @singingshyguy4046
      @singingshyguy4046 5 лет назад +7

      @@fordjames6031 I dont misunderstand you. My definition of a different pattern of spinda also includes the shiny versions. Yours and Johnstones definition dont. We just have different opinions on what constitutes a different pattern of spinda. It's okay we can disagree

    • @winnipeginstinct
      @winnipeginstinct 5 лет назад +1

      no he didnt. he just doesn't care if they are

  • @daniexisde564
    @daniexisde564 5 лет назад +91

    Do you hate yourself?
    Know catch them all shiny

    • @Agent_Cirno
      @Agent_Cirno 5 лет назад +2

      lol im a white guy do u know the definition of insanity?

    • @simunator
      @simunator 5 лет назад +1

      @@Agent_Cirno doing the same thing over and over expecting a different outcome.
      technically each spinda is different, so it's borderline inanity

    • @umbrellaxrd
      @umbrellaxrd 4 года назад

      0w0

    • @daniexisde564
      @daniexisde564 4 года назад

      @@umbrellaxrd owo?

    • @umbrellaxrd
      @umbrellaxrd 4 года назад

      me owo

  • @Showsni
    @Showsni 5 лет назад +3

    One important thing to note - some of the personality values will result in spots that are either off Spinda's body entirely, or overlap each other. That means that there are fewer than 4,294,967,296 visually different Spinda - conflating all the off the body spots you get a mere 3,945,136,128 different Spindas, and that's not accounting for overlapping spots. There's a tool here: pokemon.thundaga.com/spinda/Spinda%20Painter.htm where you can see all the different spot patterns, and the personality values that give them.

  • @dburris718
    @dburris718 5 лет назад +5

    Teacher: You’ll use this algebra in your daily life.
    Me: can comprehend the math needed to catch 4 billion Pokémon

  • @xXMeecrobXx
    @xXMeecrobXx 5 лет назад +12

    You can catch all different spindas in the older versions if you just go by the pixels and the visible parts... there is a much lower logic number of how much difference the visible spots are placed based on the pixel pattern

  • @MofoMan2000
    @MofoMan2000 5 лет назад +13

    About the reporters: After 255 battles they can still be rematched, but they no longer move location so at that point it's actually easier to battle them. I know this because I used them to farm EXP to fill up my Pokédex.

    • @mixnflix101
      @mixnflix101 5 лет назад

      Can you literally just speak to them after the battle ends and go again? Or do you have to reset?

    • @MofoMan2000
      @MofoMan2000 5 лет назад +2

      @@mixnflix101 You just need to leave the route and come back. Just bike to Mauville and come back, or maybe the Winstrate house will work too.

  • @cancerouscontent2924
    @cancerouscontent2924 4 года назад +2

    damn, Imagine you having your entire bloodline pulling this entire feat like an jjba parody

  • @EvilApple567
    @EvilApple567 5 лет назад +3

    I sense a hint of sarcasm there at the end, but I would easily trade my home, friends, family, physical and mental health, and all of my worldly possessions for a Spinda goatee.

  • @Valcuda
    @Valcuda 5 лет назад +8

    I know I'm a month late, but we need to make this a thing. We need to set up a goal to catch every different type of Spinda, we need to setup a site dedicated to this! You catch a Spinda? Post it's picture, then one day, one GLORIOUS day, we will have caught every different type of Spinda in all of Pokemon

  • @SIowpoke
    @SIowpoke 5 лет назад +7

    After a quick research there is only half a million coded spinda sprites. Nice video though.

  • @MakusinMeringue
    @MakusinMeringue 5 лет назад +15

    Idea: Spinda Podcast where you attempt to collect Spinda in the background, but its a podcast!

    • @BreaPotts
      @BreaPotts 5 лет назад +1

      I'd listen to this.

  • @santosic
    @santosic 5 лет назад +15

    Math needs to be redone now that your sub count has grown to 120K ;)
    I'm sure we can shave off a few more decades now! xD

    • @jimmyh2137
      @jimmyh2137 5 лет назад +1

      Subs now = 3x original subs
      Time now = Original Time/3

    • @chartreusemoon
      @chartreusemoon 4 года назад

      dont drag me into this

  • @interstellar0001
    @interstellar0001 5 лет назад +2

    The Grand Pokémon Project for centuries upon centuries upon millennia to come: get those 4.29 billion different Spinda patterns.

  • @lyric7702
    @lyric7702 5 лет назад +15

    *There’s no way he’s actually going to try it-*

  • @GippyHappy
    @GippyHappy 5 лет назад +12

    "Day 1 of my 6000 year journey"

  • @Crushkai
    @Crushkai 5 лет назад +109

    Who saw the Grookey from sword and shield at 1:05

  • @WildfireP01
    @WildfireP01 5 лет назад +2

    With the TV crew after enough rematches they aren’t disabled, they just stick to one location. To fight them again you just bike off the route and bike back to refresh them for easy grinding.

  • @Jonaaa420
    @Jonaaa420 5 лет назад +5

    10 million subscriber special: "ok guys lets catch some Spinda"

  • @smilesfordays
    @smilesfordays 5 лет назад +16

    Bro... bro... please don’t catch them all. Don’t die.

    • @phyvo
      @phyvo 5 лет назад +3

      I'm not a pessimistic person but I think somewhere along his 6000 year journey he's not gonna make it.

  • @cleliaoconnell3705
    @cleliaoconnell3705 5 лет назад +10

    How many different pattern of spinda can you catch in 24h?
    (More manageable)

  • @ChocolateKuruma
    @ChocolateKuruma 5 лет назад +6

    "Decades of Sandshrew and Skarmory"

  • @extradelux8088
    @extradelux8088 5 лет назад +2

    As a pokemon fan who's only shiny pokemon ever caught was a spinda, and have encountered literally thousands of spindas because that is what I chose to do with my life at some point, I can assure you there is no merit in this task. Spare yourselves, before it's too late.

  • @fitnessavarice8065
    @fitnessavarice8065 5 лет назад +2

    Small correction for 6:05: ty and gabby will stop relocating after 255 battles. They will stay at route 111 after that and you can just change routes to rechallenge them

  • @Sonikks
    @Sonikks 5 лет назад +4

    Wow, what a video. That was a rollercoaster to experience. Very nicely made!

  • @arcaneusumbra1539
    @arcaneusumbra1539 5 лет назад +4

    Me: *See's title of video late at night*
    "I don't need sleep, I need answers"

  • @Demonwolf666-i4r
    @Demonwolf666-i4r 5 лет назад +17

    Now catch shiny feebass i dare you..😅😅

  • @TinySpiny
    @TinySpiny 4 года назад +1

    Johnstone’s distant descendant, finally catching the last of the Spinda Variants: I have fulfilled my family’s legacy at last

  • @mudkipmania5239
    @mudkipmania5239 4 года назад +1

    After watching this video I decided to do some theory crafting and it turns out there are a few optimisations to speed up this process even more to make it realistically possible for a large amount of players to catch every type of Spinda in Pokemon emerald within our lifetime. Through the Pomeg berry glitch you could cut down on the time needed to set up the game. The earliest theoretical point you would be set up the situation required to catch all these Spinda would be after the 6th gym and would require you to clear out the aqua hideout and get the masterball there, as well as having picked up at least 1 Pomeg berry from route 119 (the most optimised spot as you need to go there in normal gameplay anyway). Assuming each player understands the game well enough to solo run the first six gyms and picks Mudkip as their starter (as Mudkip can learn all the neccesary tms required up to this point while the others cant learn surf) then only around 12-14 hours of gamplay would be required compared to the 8 badges and 50 hours+ with the elite 4 grind otherwise required. The next step would require each player to use the Pomeg berry glitch to corrupt their money way above the normal limit - this takes about 1 minute of setup and 14 seconds of corruption compared to the extra 2 badges and elite 4 grind otherwise required- then they would repeat this glitch to dupe 2 items - the Masterball acquired from the Aqua Hideout and the White flute which is found from collecting Ash on route 113, as a result of the Pomeg glitch the players could mass dupe both. The Masterballs guaranteed catchinf of Pokemon would massively speeding up battle and the mass dupe of white flutes to increase the encounter rate by 50% thus speeding up the process more would cut down on battle time. With these optimisations and many players it therefore might be possible for every unique type to be caught in emerald within our lifetime.

  • @ColdViolet
    @ColdViolet 5 лет назад +4

    'so let's just start with catching 4 billion spinda' 😂

  • @Chamushgoo
    @Chamushgoo 5 лет назад +47

    The Pokemon God is back with another video!!

  • @chonchjohnch
    @chonchjohnch 5 лет назад +4

    I love the idea of using terabytes of data for Pokémon

  • @themagicrat8020
    @themagicrat8020 5 лет назад

    This is quite possibly my favorite Pokemon video I've yet seen. That or #2 behind Pikasprey's video about Electrode.

  • @whippedalcremiepokemon3271
    @whippedalcremiepokemon3271 4 года назад +1

    Elcremie: haha i have the most forms!
    Spinda: hold my personality value

  • @Squidhead
    @Squidhead 5 лет назад +10

    I’ll do you one better:
    How long would it take to catch every pattern of Spinda *BUT SHINY*

    • @coal9205
      @coal9205 5 лет назад +1

      The universe Will d I e by the time you accomplish that

  • @monte_2000
    @monte_2000 5 лет назад +8

    This man literally made 4K subscribers in a day God damn bruh

  • @yorgeabouttstudio
    @yorgeabouttstudio 5 лет назад +11

    im crying this is insane XD im sharing the hell out of this!!!!!

  • @theshepdawg6809
    @theshepdawg6809 5 лет назад +2

    Also, fun fact:
    One save file of Pokémon Ruby takes up 128 kilobytes. Multiply that by the number of saves needed to contain all the Spinda, and that's a grand total of a little more than1.3 terabytes of data.

  • @beta511ee4
    @beta511ee4 5 лет назад +1

    4:50 If you want to count the Spinda in your party, that number decreases to 10,082,083.
    Though if you want to not include them for future save files, the number increases.

  • @Christian-tr9uf
    @Christian-tr9uf 5 лет назад +14

    Haven't watched the video completely yet but I'd say it'd take more than a year even with a lot of games since you'd have to make sure you got *every* pattern and unless you have a computer software that could count them to differentiate them you still wouldn't know
    edit: LMAOOooO 10 million games holy shit

  • @Veniden
    @Veniden 5 лет назад +14

    If you do all that catching who will do the editing?

  • @GrandReform
    @GrandReform 5 лет назад +9

    Alright, when do we start?

  • @configchan1062
    @configchan1062 5 лет назад +1

    One thing that's a bit of a correction is that, for shiny Spinda, since shininess is determined based on the personality value and Trainer ID/Secret ID in Gen III, it's not actually an average of that so much as; if you were to catch every single pattern of Spinda from the same file, exactly 524,288 patterns would always be shiny with that OT.
    Also, if you merely wanted to see every variant of Spinda, one question would be: "Are you allowed to cheat, and how long do you have to see for it to count?" If your goal is to simply see every variant in-game, depending on how Spinda are drawn in a game, it may be possible to cycle through Spinda on a frame by frame basis by continually changing the PID. Assuming you can do this in RSE, you could theoretically change which pattern you're looking at ever frame, for 60 Spinda a second, and could continually stare at the screen without blinking, and without interrupting the power for the console for the entire time, you could see every spinda pattern in (2^32) frames, or (2^32)/60/60/24/365 = just under 136.2 years. That's several centuries of time saved!

  • @MadaxeMunkeee
    @MadaxeMunkeee 5 лет назад

    You did a great job with this video. Lots of new questions have arisen now! The most obvious is how long on average till you catch every Spina assuming the 4 billion kinds are equally likely to appear. But there are other questions like, are there even enough copies of the game in existence to perform this challenge.
    You could have gone crazier if you had a mathematician to consult with - I’d be happy to nerd out over a problem like this.

  • @codeman9115
    @codeman9115 5 лет назад +20

    Wait I thought you were joking!?

  • @danielbaljeu3669
    @danielbaljeu3669 5 лет назад +4

    Are there really 4 billion different Spinda? Numerically it makes sense with the binaries, but they always look pretty similar having 0-4 big red spots that move around a pixelated face

    • @Stephillpotten
      @Stephillpotten 5 лет назад +2

      No, If I remember correctly the number is around 200.

    • @danielbaljeu3669
      @danielbaljeu3669 5 лет назад

      @@Stephillpotten That sounds like a do-able challenge!

  • @ximbabwe0228
    @ximbabwe0228 5 лет назад +4

    Plot twist: there are 26 patterns of spinda

  • @clownpieceenjoyer5439
    @clownpieceenjoyer5439 4 года назад +1

    Bruh all of this just for the world population of some red spotted pandas.

  • @EvilApple567
    @EvilApple567 4 года назад +1

    Just for the curious, given the average shiny encounter rate the least possible amount of encounters you would need to find every shiny pattern of Spinda is 35,184,372,088,832 (35 Trillion), and over 35 Quadrillion dollars for the Repeat Balls, or 542,968,705,075 (543 Billion) Elite Four runs with the Amulet Coin.
    Let's get to work boys, we have a new end goal for the human race

  • @maizen1335
    @maizen1335 5 лет назад +3

    Aren't there only like 30 forms of unown though? That'd mean that different personality values could give you the same form, and it might be the same way from spinda
    I know this is a joke but, maybe it's possible?

  • @Mushimiya
    @Mushimiya 5 лет назад +10

    I see an error in your mathematics.. Who says every number in the binary code is linked to one specific pattern. The only thing that matters is the visual pattern.

    • @kristophesiem5336
      @kristophesiem5336 5 лет назад +2

      The game code. Each byte represents one of the 4 dots of spinda and every bit determines the coordenates of its respective dot, so yeah

  • @jcnot9712
    @jcnot9712 4 года назад +5

    1:05 I’m so confused, isn’t that the Sword/Shield starter at the bottom left? On a video that was uploaded more than half a year before Sword/Shield came out?

    • @dudeman6306
      @dudeman6306 4 года назад

      That's a blazikin

    • @jcnot9712
      @jcnot9712 4 года назад +3

      Dude Man your eyes suck if you think that’s Blaziken.

    • @healinghamza
      @healinghamza 4 года назад

      JC Not you’re right! How did you notice that! Haha

    • @jcnot9712
      @jcnot9712 4 года назад +1

      Healing Hamza I didn’t when I watched it the first time months ago, but Grookey done gave me a jumpscare when I rewatched. Still dunno what Johnstone was on when he put that there or if Grookey had been revealed back then.

    • @tonytang7550
      @tonytang7550 4 года назад

      Half a year before SwSh came out, but months after the starters were announced

  • @LtheOriginal
    @LtheOriginal 5 лет назад

    I imagine catching every single Spinda is a task you have to do whilst in purgatory.

  • @woofy8373
    @woofy8373 5 лет назад +1

    You brother, Is a true genius. I mean your calculating skills are insane