How to change a Sargent & Greenleaf combination and how to dial in (open gun safe).
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- How to open and change a sargent and greenleaf dial for a gun / fire safe. Terry Pratt, the owner of Sturdy Gun Safe Mfg (www.sturdysafe.com) , is teaching. ANOTHER WARNING! Some safe manufacturers void the warranty if the combo is changed, but not Sturdy Safe.
Great video, but a few things what I wish were mentioned. First: As long as you DO NOT shut your door, you can reset the combination if your new one isn’t working. Let people know that their are tutorial videos showing how to remove the back of the Sargent & Greenleaf (S&G) lock and taking a few easy steps to change an unknown combination.
I knew this might be a problem if I made an error putting in my new combination so I looked up other videos before hand. As I predicted I screwed up the first time and neither my new nor old combination worked. Popped the back off the lock, manually lined up a few things and I was back in business.
Second: Let people know that most safe brands use these S&G combination locks. I feel dumb, but it took me a little while to realize that the safe manufacturer, and the manufacturer of the combination locks aren’t the same.
Anyways you did a great job, and saved me $150 on getting a locksmith, and possibly 1,000s in property that could have been stolen.
FYI-there ARE also forbidden zones in safe locks if properly splined don't set the last number between 90 and 20. You can cause a lockout situation if not followed!
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Very good advice to tape over the 12 o'clock index line.👍
By far the BEST tutorial for this s&g lock. Who's changing this coz of a divorce lol. .😂
Thanks for the video, managed to change the combination on a safe that we had bought back In '94! Thanks again
Thanks here's the LABEL we're putting on our safe: Label:
Unlock
Sequence:
LEFT-4
RIGHT-3
LEFT-2
RIGHT-1
UNLOCK:
-1st Secret #: Turn Dial LEFT (counter-clockwise):
Stop on its 4th* passing.
-2nd secret #: Dial RIGHT (clockwise):
Stop on its 3rd passing.
-3rd Secret #: Dial LEFT (counter-clockwise):
Stop on its 2nd passing.
-Dial RIGHT (clockwise):
To a hard, Lock Retracted, Stop (#86).
-Turn Handle Right, to Open Door Dead Bolts.
Notes:
*When Starting the 1st secret #, More passes are allowable.
Also Less passes may be allowable, IF the Dial was turned Left enough, when previously locked.
The 12 o’clock “Opening Index” crows-foot mark is where you must align and stop your secret # precisely under.
The 11 o’clock mark to the left is the “Changing Index”, used during a combination change.
So you don’t dial past a #, slow down to “Sneak Up” on it.
You Must Start Open Directions All Over IF:
1. When dialing the 2nd or 3rd Secret numbers, when you should have stopped, you pass them.
2. You turn the dial in the wrong direction/try to “back up” to a missed/passed number.
LOCK:
1. Close Door.
2. Turn Dial to the Left, At Least 4 Full Revolutions.
Depository Drop Hopper
Combo Change
Key Insert Hole
Dead Bolts Manual
Deployment Switch
very nice instruction and Sturdy safes are built better than most, thanks
Fantastic description of this process. Great job!
Great tip covering up the 12 o'clock index notch.
Best description on youtube, Thanks
THANX!!! I was able to change my combination just fine after watching this video... and ordering the change key...
Great Video!!! I was able to change the combo on my AWESOME STURDY SAFE!!!👍🍻
Great video, where can I get a change key?
Outstanding video!! I now have a good, operating safe!! Thank you guys! Merry Christmas!
This is a great generic video, but lookup your specific model of S & G lock on their website and follow the directions for your model exactly.
I have the R6700. It had an additional step not shown in this video. After setting the new combination on the change index, I had to move the dial to the right 10 numbers before removing the change key.
Outstanding video! Very well done sir! Thank you for the instruction, my safe is now secure once again!
I changed my combination to the same thing. It works fast.
my dad was unaware of this feature. i will send this video to him
All of your videos are very well done. Great explanations, videography, etc. Thank you. :)
Great video to this day, thanks so much
k. i'm going in! wish me luck!
My lock does not have the "11 o'clock" index. I can guess but would be afraid I will mess up!
Want one of your safes Terry.
I have a safe unknown manufacturer the only I'd on it is the lock which is a Sargent and Greenleaf mechanical lock that is 30 plus years old it was my dad's he gave it to me but I don't have the change key and he has know idea where it is how do I determine what kind of key I need and where can I get one
WHAT IF ITS A NEW DIAL LOCK AND YOU WANT TO MAKE A COMBINATION.?
Thank you. You saved me.
Thanks for your help.
Worked for me. Thank you!
I changed the combination and it worked fine for several times. The the hubby attempted the new combination and the safe opened, but now the dial sticks and won't lock. I can move the handle to lock, but the dial won't spin to keep if from unlocking. I was able to get it to spin a couple of times, but now not at all. Any suggestions?
You may have violated the third number rule. This video does not mention that the third number cannot be between 0 and 20. This is because of the way the lock works. Violation of that rule will cause the problem that you describe.
Also, as this video does not explain, NEVER close your door after a combo change until you have worked the combination at lease 3 times to make sure that the new combination was put in properly and that the lock will open once the door is closed and locked.
Miyatafixie I did the combination several times before I actually closed the door and it worked fine. But after closing it, the problem started. Looks like we did violate the third number rule. Is ther a fix for this, or do I need to call a locksmith?
Rayneht The dail moves enough to allow me to lock the door, then use the key to lock the dial.
Rayneht
To make sure that I understand your problem correctly, you can get the door to open and close, it is just that you cannot get the lock to spin and lock the safe. If that is correct, then what you must do is open the door and take off the back of the lock. Then you must manually turn the wheels to align them so that the change key can be inserted when you put the back of the lock on again. The change key has to fit into the square holes in the wheels. Turning the square holes unlocks the inner part of the wheel from the outer part. By changing the relative position of the inner part of the wheel to the outer part is what changes the number for that wheel. When you have the wheels aligned and the back on again, you can now insert the change key and put in a new combination. Do not unlock the wheels before putting the back of the lock on again and remember the third number rule.
May I ask what if you don't have the original combo then what route could be taken to reset the combo? Thanks
We have a video for that. It’s called
How to realign the Tumblers if you messed up changing the combination of a Sargent and Greenleaf Lock.
@@SturdyGunSafeMFG wow thank you.
Thank you for the tips, Irish...hopefully Sturdy will add this to any instructions, though they can see it here.
Question for you. Is dialing too fast an issue? I am not talking 9,650 RPMs...just a quick dial?
If you spin to fast..
You can make the dials float past your number.
Do not spin fast when setting up your new combination.
But..
If you can do it..
And open your safe, it will not hurt anything.
Thanks for this video very helpful.
So, everybody is changing their combo to 60- 50- 70, right? ;-)
This made me LOL!
Ty
Maybe the camera man was high because the guy is pointing to things below the camera frame.
Thank you❤
Does any change key for and SG lock work or is it model specific?
acoow It’s model specific.
Very useful. Thanks.
very good , thank you
I cant open mine still...Leeco safe
Hey can you teach me how to do
Great !
you turn yours more than I turn mine to open it the 2nd number is 2 times and 3rd number once I've got a Sargent & Greenleaf not sure why that is
I believe it's how it is dialed in when setting the new combo. You choose how many turns.
does anyone know where I can buy a replacement key to change my combo
ebay for $10.00
excellent
Thanks !!
thanks very match
Seems simple enough
01/011975
I just bought Electronic a keypad safe fuck this dial one.... takes for ever to open.... And good luck trying to open your safe in emergency in the dark...
they have an LED dial light most people have...good luck when someone takes a hammer to that plastic housing..