The Rise of The TAMIYA RISING FIGHTER #2 Step by Step Upgrade - CVA Oil Filled Dampers!
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- Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2024
- Step 2! On Sundays we upgrade the Tamiya Rising Fighter 58416 ... Step by Step! Slowly and steadfast. This is a homage to the Last of the Tamiya Hoppers!
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Welcome to Step 2 of this new Sunday Tamiya upgrade video series.
Watch the introduction and step 1 here: • The Rise of The TAMIYA...
The Tamiya Rising Fighter is based on the Tamiya Grasshopper II chassis, a modified Tamiya Super Hornet body, a Tamiya DT-01 Gear Box and a DT-01 Mad Fighter Wing.
For me, this combination is the perfect starting point for a splendid "Hornet III" or a "Super Super Hornet" project. Basically it is screaming for some simple modifications and upgrades to bring it to a whole new Hopper-level. Can one really ask for more fun?
In this step we replace the stock friction shocks with CVA oil filled dampers. Mind you, these specific CVAs are not Tamiyas official CVA upgrade to the Grasshopper II chassis, but unused CVAs from a Tamiya Levant. The front shock travel couild be shorter and the incredible hard springs proved a setback, but the result is still better than the stock setup.
Improving the rear damping on these Hoppers is actually quite a challenge. But since the hopeless rear suspension can be considered as the part that make these 2WD classic buggies into the characteristic "Hoppers" they are, I'm not too concerned about that. But improving the damping of the front swing arm suspension is quite easy and front CVAs (or any decent oil filled dampers) really make a world of difference!
Hope you found this installation video useful or/and interesting! The video is purely intended for viewers with an interest in the Tamiya Grasshopper/Hornet legacy or/and the Tamiya Rising Fighter.
Check out my channel for many more Tamiya Hoppers/Hornets and other models.
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Tamiya Rising Fighter Hop-Up Options (so far):
Step 1: 9 x 1150 and 1 x 850 Ball Bearings
Step 2: 4 x Tamiya CVA Oil Filled Dampers
... to be continued!
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Tamiya Rising Fighter 58416 Specifications (Stock):
Released in: 2008
Type: Assembly Kit, Buggy
2WD
Chassis: ABS Plastic (1988 Grasshopper II Chassis)
Body: ABS Plastic
Scale: 1/10
Length: 418 mm
Width: 236 mm
Height: 187 mm
Wheel Base: 268 mm
Ground clearence: 14 mm
Weight (dry): 1110 g.
Suspension Front: Independent Swing Arms
Suspension (Rear) Rigid Rolling Rear Axle
Shocks/dampers: Friction/Springs
Plastic bushings (9 x 1150) & Metal Bearing (1 x 850)
Gears: Sealed Gear Box with Differential
Pinion Gear : Aluminium 17T 0.8 Mod
Gear ratio: 1:9.33
Electric motor: Tamiya Brushed Standard Type 540 27T
ESC: Tamiya TEU-105BK
Optional Parts:
Servo: Tamiya TSU-01
For this upgrade series I have loosely installed a receiver for testing purposes.
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Nordic RC Visions Statement:
This video features homemade footage of my own radio-controlled unit, The Tamiya Rising Fighter (Tamiya Model 58416 from 2008), from my personal RC model collection. All rights reserved.
That will drive so much better now, can't wait to see what else you will do👍
Jay Gazur Yeah, we’re getting there slowly - step by step :-) Not planning anything really special - just making the Rising Fighter I’ve always wanted. Thanks for following along, mate. Appreciate it.
Great start to the series Nordic RC Visions - and excellent to se you re-using left-over spares that most of us RC fans carry! And with the springs - if it don't work - make it work! I know we chatted a lot about the performance of the CVA's on the last video, but we agreed they are an essential upgrade - big like and looking forward to next Sunday's installment :-)
Mark Bryan RC Thanks! Yeah. I like the fact that we both liked the stock springs so much they where re-used. I think the Tamiya Super Hornet CVAs are the best fit for the Grasshopper II chassis. Great length and soft springs. But since I had these brand new CVAs lying around it seemed a wiser idea (for my bank account) to re-use those too. Looking very much forward hearing your honest opinions about my choices for the Rising Fighter as we go along. Would love as much feedback as possible by other Rising Fighter owners :-)
Cheers Nordic RC Visions - You know you can rely on my honest opinions! It's just great to be able to share our thoughts and ideas on this forum and it's always interesting to see someone else's take on how to tackle some of the 'issues' each car has - especially when it's presented in the detailed and intelligent way that your videos show :-)
Well, you and Alf make up an intelligent team too in your vids. Sometimes I feel we all are a bit too nice with each other. Sometimes some constructive criticism (can you say that in English? We say it in Denmark ... well, in Danish). But I also find it a bit hard when on youtube. I mean, when I’m watching a video here I usually do it to have a good time, and the videos I watch in full length, are usually good (that’s why I watched them till the end) and then it seems natural to give good feedback. Well, maybe we should just have fun and compliment each other and forget about constructive critisism. Hmm, not sure :-)
Hmmm... You seem to be in a very reflective mood Mikael - I too have those moments. There are so many people in life that are too keen to criticise everything because they have no joy in their lives. We congratulate each other on our achievements because we understand exactly what we are trying to do and what is involved. This is not our real life, it's RUclips, but we are trying to entertain I think. I (and you I think) have a natural tendency to try to do well at all that I do - it was the way that I was brought up. I see your videos and understand what it took to make them, so I give genuine feedback. Constructive criticism is definitely an English saying. I have been pleased with your positive comments, it is an incentive to do more and not give up as I have thought "what's the point" several times! But criticize away my friend, and I will too, if it makes our content better in any way. All the best to you and your family my friend on RUclips :-)
Really cool! That thing is spotless!!! 👍🏻🤘🏻
D.P.T. Thanks! Gettin’ it ready for the spring :-) Hopefully after this summer it will look a bit more used :-)
Nice educational video! 👍👍👍👍👍 I’m always using stands for RCs to avoid the flat spots on the tires and keep shocks stay in good shape.
jdpasl Thanks jdpasl! Yeah me too. I use small IKEA containers underneath. After all, this is Scandinavia :-)
Awe, I wanted to see a running video. Lol good stuff.👍
Rc Basher Boi he he :-) Ahh, nothing but rain and mud here, and these cute Tamiyas ain’t going out in that :-) Thanks, buddy!
Awesome stuff! Yeah I had the same problem too, when I ordered some new oil filled shocks for my super hornet. there rock solid hard too. :)
Actually think the original Super Hornet CVAs are very good. The problem with these hoppers is the angle and the weight in the back. They need to be super super soft to actually work - but when they are super super soft they would just sink. It’s just a faulty design in general - but that’s what we love and why they are fun runners and great Hoppers :-)
Nordic RC Visions totally agree :)
Great upgrade! That rear! That rear suspension! Ahhhhh :D
Remote Addicted Gotta love that rear suspension, ha ha. Genious :-) Thanks, my friend.
A great video as always. I’m following this with interest.
Grumpy Granddad Stinky’s RC Dump Thank you very much for the kind feedback! Appreciate it. It’s probably gonna be a long video series. Maybe 6 or 7 videos in total :-)
I’ll make some sandwiches and a flask of coffee. I’ve followed you for a while, especially the DT/DF videos. I really want an MS of one of them.
Sound goods :-) Yeah, the MS editions are quite cool. But apart from the cool looking and very expensive TRF shocks I think it’s easy to turn a standard edition into something just as good looking. Found some TRF shocks second hand for the DT-03 and the DF-03 so gonna build ‘my own’ MS editions, without the MS body. Gonna be cool too :-)
Hi, very helpful video.
Have you got the part number of Tamiya CVA oil filled shocks?
One of the stock shock has finally broke on my Rising Fighter and I need the upgrade urgently.
Hi! These CVA shocks I made of different parts I had lying around. But some CVA’s that fit the Grasshopper II or the Super Hornet will do great l think. Should be easy to search out the part number on Google for those.
Another great job. :)Also I always like your painted driver. Can you make some boby painting video?
Thanks! I would love doing a video about it but I’m not too sure if many are interested. I have made several build videos including painting the body. Also some clips with the driver. But I guess it would be very boring watching me paint the driver in real time. I have no talent or technique so the key for me is just patience. Just making a lot of errors (I find it difficult getting a straight and even line with a brush) and then waiting for it to dry, correct it, wait till it dries, try again. Over and over. If I can do it anybody can :-) Would love if some of the real talented painters would make an instructional video with all the tips and tricks, for us all.
Hello! I have recently purchased a rising fighter and i am interested in following along. It might be a bit late now but do you have a link from which you bought these dampers?
Hello, bro! Nice! I hope you will have fun with it. Ahh, these shocks where some left overs I had from the spare parts to the Tamiya Levant. Anyway, the springs are much too hard. Maybe check out some Tamiya CVA oil filled shocks from the Super Hornet, Grasshopper II, DT-01 or maybe even from the DT-02 or DT-03. I bet they will fit nicely, although it's hard getting the springs soft enough for this light buggy ... and containing the ride height in the same time.
@@NordicRC okay thank you for the help! 😊
Hey. Time Tunnel Models are doing a RF bundle for £110. I'm really tempted by that or the Tamiya Mercedes Benz E190 TT01. I want to do onroad and some off road. What would you recommend, please?
Not sure what the bundle includes, but it sounds like a good deal if there are radio, servo etc included. Uhh. An RF or a TT-01? World of difference. Get them both 😉🙃
If you want to shorten the length of the front CVA’s, easy and cheap, put a piece of medical tubing, whatever length you want to shorten them by, on the piston, inside the shock body.
Hi Joanna. Yeah, I usually use the rubber o-rings underneath the piston head. Sure does the trick.
nice video man
mini RC Sports Thanks, buddy!
Hi mate, did you ever find a softer spring to suit the rear end?
Hi bro. No, that part I still have to go back too. If I ever get around to it, rear springs (or entire shocks) from a Super Hornet would do better than my solution.
Where can I by them could you leave a link thanks
Not sure. They pop up now and then, but I think the general new production has stopped.
@@NordicRC ok thanks
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Why can't I find these damn things haha!
Uhh, what things?
@@NordicRC any oil filled shocks. I know they're very common but I don't know what sizes I need or anything.
Ahh, yes. Right now I can’t remember the specifications, but the length of the CVA shocks from models like the Stadium Blitzer Beetle and Super Hornet should do fine.