6 months ago i bought my first racing bike, emonda sl6 pro 21. I ride it 15 days and i had to go back to work. I had some cheap mtb bikes before. I never tought that you can travel so fast and comfortable, you just sit on it and drive drive....amazing experience. In july im coming back and i can not wait to ride again my new bike🙂 Gratulations to Trek team company👍🏻👍🏿👍🏻
I've now had 2 Emonda SLR 9 eTap AXS...so obviously I absolutely love them. My biggest question for Trek is why do all this work to maximize the aerodynamics, but then stick with this almost 10 year old round seatmast cap. Surely even just using a "D" shaped seatpost would have saved a few more watts. And also I work in the industry, so I'm well aware of just how many Trek models use (current and older models) the round seatmast cap. It's honestly one of my only complaints about the newer Emonda SLR. I know it makes it easier for Trek, but adding 2 more SKU's (aluminum and carbon seatmast versions) can't be that hard. So I'd love to hear the reasoning from Trek.
Just bought an emonda sl7 2022 new on sale in dublin, ireland. It is simply a stunning bike to cycle. It eats the hills, is lightning quick yet extremely comfortable. Better than a giant defy and canyon endurance I previously owned.
I owned the previous rim brake version of the Emonda SL5, and I absolutely loved it. My first proper road bike we went on many adventures here in Japan. Got it down to about 8kg, so was easy to carry on the trains in a special bike bag to head out to the mountains. If I bought an Emonda again it’d be this new model for sure, they’ve addressed all of the areas I’d critique especially the cables and disc brake only with wider tyres. I’m now riding the new Domane SL5 and with the aero I’m constantly surprised at how many PRs I’ve picked up on segments without realising it. Would love to see a Domane idea like this in the future, Madone too.
Mazda University mine is 2020, bought November 2019. It’s a head turning purple flip colour SL5. I’ve added Continental Gatorskin Hardshells & also a second wheelset from a friend’s SL6 with 35mm Panaracer GravelKing SKs.
@@antonhelsgaun I absolutely love mine. I keep up with friends on fast city rides and have taken a ton of new PRs. It’s super comfortable on all day rides which was really noticeable on my biggest day of 201km. Ability to run up to 38mm tyres is a game changer, and I run a set of road 32mm and another wheel set of 35mm knobby tyres (wish I’d gone 38 but was thinking of mudguards). The bike is a bit heavier than Emonda. If the newest Emonda released at the same time I might’ve gone Emonda, but no regrets on Domane. Maybe test ride both to compare? I’ve a few ride videos with Domane on my channel.
18 watts of drag improvement is seriously impressive. That would put it in the category of Swork Tarmac. Which is surprising given the seat tube and seatpost are still tradition round tubes. Not sure if thats just the result of the frame or with the contribution of the new integrated handlebars and wheels.
This seems similar to the KVF design from a few years ago upgraded with disc. The prices at 33% higher for the SL6 which used to be $2499 for the rim brake and now costs $3299 for this new design with disc brakes. Trek seems to alternate between oval tubes and the aero tube shapes every few years. In addition, all their bikes have gotten heavier with disc brakes. The old Emonda SLR6 to my recollection was 14.75 lbs and was in the $6000 range. I don't think you can find anything that low weight anymore without paying $10k or more.
learned one thing in life, you will make and spend money your whole life. Learn what you need and do not and find a budget that lets you get what you want. I buy my self a new road bike every 5 years and basically sell my old one for 1/4 of what I bought it for (down payment).
Emonda has always been a fantastic bike. I own a ALR. The only thing I can say about this bike, it's too expensive! Pricing matters. As much as I love TREK, Canyon Ultimate would be the better choice due to pricing.
Ozzy I’d choose Trek over Canton any day as over the life of the bike I’ve always appreciated I can take to Trek for quality maintenance and their lifetime warranty on frames I have used once on a 5yr old bike. How does Canyon’s maintenance stack up?
all this technology al the cables in my DOMANE frame are clanking around. GMAFB little roughness feels like front is coming apart when you hear the noises.
@@trekbikes just saw this. Thanks for the reply. I have since picked up a '21 sl5. It's an amazing bike. My next question: does the sl have the same ride characteristics as the slr; just that it's heavier?
Hey trek bikes .i have a trek madone slr 7 segafredo (malton marble ).how ever i also have a cannondale super six evo sram red .its very face very lite .how ever i choose the trek madone slr7 bc its fast and aero.i think it will offer me more bike tnan my evo. my only dislike in regard to the madone is why did trek compromise on weight .does trek have future plans to make the madone super super lite while maintaining all its aero /speed talents .pls comply asap .*Kelly houston usmc/retired
Trek bicycles around 5k~10k USD are too heavy for the cost or comparing to other brands. They should be lighter at least 600g to 1,000g for each model. They need innovation I think.
Virtually all of my ride is climbing. Weight is important, but pedaling stiffness is primarily what I look for. In this regard, Emonda rates only fair. Emonda holds no appeal for me.
I purchased EMONDA SL6 pro. The screw which constraints the turn of the handlebar was broken. Thus the turn went beyond the limit and the ring marked go-go-go hitted the frame. The paint got damaged. I brought the bike to my supplier and they talked to TREK. TREK installed a new screw and new ring go-go-go. TREK didn't want to repair the scratches on the paint of the frame caused by the limitless turning. Now I have a new super bike with scratches on the frame. I didn't expect that from TREK. Low customer support and poor warranty. Bad experience. I feel dissapointed. The bike itself is a super bike but the warranty service does not work as it should.
Sorry to hear about this! Our warranty does cover defects in manufacturing, but without knowing the cause of this bolt breaking, I can't speak for it. We suggest talking to your dealer to get assistance with locating a close matching touch-up paint for your scratches, otherwise, these may be able to be buffed out.
@@trekbikes My dealer (Probike, Barcelona Spain) stated TREK can't do anything else about the scratches. Scratches are the outcome of a broken bolt during manufacturing or installation. They sold me the bike without constraints in the handlebar turning. Nobody from Probike paid attention on that detail. I discover it by myself when scratches appeared. Then I found the issue. Firstly I tought it was an engineering deffect. I called Probike and brought them the bike and one of their mechanicians stated the bolt was broken. I feel deeply frustrated. TREK should provide dealers with some product training in order to avoid similar situations in the future. Moreover TREK customer support is not handling issues as expected. This is my second TREK bike and will be the last one if TREK doesn't fix this up.
The top of the range Émonda SLR 9 at $11,000 US and weighing 6.8 kg and about middle of the range Émonda SL 7 at $ 5,000 US and weighing 7.8 kg. None of the range is lightweight by anyone’s standards. To state ultralight is a bit of a joke. And don’t say aerodynamic is more important, just marketing nonsense.
5:05 'You wouldn't expect making something bigger make it lighter, but it does make it stiffer.' WTF DOES THAT MEAN ... aka i built a 4000lb bike.. trust me, it;s stiff!
It's all marketing bullshit. None of these subtle differences will make you a faster rider, nor will it make it a more comfortable (yet STIFFER) ride. Comfort always comes down to proper sizing, good mechanical maintenance and properly inflated 28mm tires. Everything else is just aesthetics.
So you're telling me your bikes are going to continue to cost thousands of dollars but you're going to continue subsidizing and providing bicycles to police forces? Who have shown clearly to use those same bicycles as weapons against the people you claim to want to buy your bikes? Fix yourselves Trek
The thing with defund police is that’s it too high risk. Imagine all the calls the police answer domestic abuse, house parties going to crazy, pulling over drunk drivers, ticketing distracted drivers, arresting people who are disturbing the peace etc etc...it’s hard to put a figure to how many lives the police save everyday. So even if only 90 % of police are good and 10% are bad- and those bad 10% kill 100 people a year but the 90% save 1000 people - it’s not perfect but it’s the best way we could do it. Now if we defund the police there would be anarchy...it would be the old world in the 1800s crime would become monopolized by the few...the world would not be better. What we need is more funding for the police, they need more training - cops should be situation trained twice a month.
Gary Bains the (reported) numbers show police consistently kill 1000 people each year, a number staying steady since 2015. defunding the police is not a call to remove the police presence, it is a call to change the way we approach our society. we wouldn't need to "invest" as much as we do as a society in the police if we would just fund better education and better social workers. think about how we as a society with our hard earned tax dollars could affect disadvantaged communities if a majority of our money went to actually teaching our children crucial life skills to keep them off the street? to keep them from growing up and thinking drinking while driving or texting while driving is okay? I see more people texting while driving. I see more people in cars harassing people who ride bikes and purposefully putting them at risk. But police never catch them. they rarely if ever ticket those people. Having reasons to arrest or threaten people for minor infractions is not a valid excuse for having a disproportionally funded police system
Let’s see what happens - Nypd is cutting 1 billion from the police budget. Now that’s not a whole lot from their overall budget, but 1 billon dollars should provide sizeable increase in funding for the programs you mentioned. Let’s circle back in 3 years and see what the results are.
6 months ago i bought my first racing bike, emonda sl6 pro 21. I ride it 15 days and i had to go back to work. I had some cheap mtb bikes before. I never tought that you can travel so fast and comfortable, you just sit on it and drive drive....amazing experience. In july im coming back and i can not wait to ride again my new bike🙂 Gratulations to Trek team company👍🏻👍🏿👍🏻
I've now had 2 Emonda SLR 9 eTap AXS...so obviously I absolutely love them.
My biggest question for Trek is why do all this work to maximize the aerodynamics, but then stick with this almost 10 year old round seatmast cap. Surely even just using a "D" shaped seatpost would have saved a few more watts.
And also I work in the industry, so I'm well aware of just how many Trek models use (current and older models) the round seatmast cap.
It's honestly one of my only complaints about the newer Emonda SLR. I know it makes it easier for Trek, but adding 2 more SKU's (aluminum and carbon seatmast versions) can't be that hard. So I'd love to hear the reasoning from Trek.
I love Trek Domane. That Émonda is the best at what it does though. Great video. Do a video this long on the Domane in the future please!
Just picked up an Émonda SLR Project 1 2020, what a beautiful machine
Just bought an emonda sl7 2022 new on sale in dublin, ireland. It is simply a stunning bike to cycle. It eats the hills, is lightning quick yet extremely comfortable. Better than a giant defy and canyon endurance I previously owned.
I owned the previous rim brake version of the Emonda SL5, and I absolutely loved it. My first proper road bike we went on many adventures here in Japan. Got it down to about 8kg, so was easy to carry on the trains in a special bike bag to head out to the mountains. If I bought an Emonda again it’d be this new model for sure, they’ve addressed all of the areas I’d critique especially the cables and disc brake only with wider tyres. I’m now riding the new Domane SL5 and with the aero I’m constantly surprised at how many PRs I’ve picked up on segments without realising it. Would love to see a Domane idea like this in the future, Madone too.
What year is your Domane? I'm currently riding a Domane SL5 with Aeolus XXX 4 wheels - really happy with it.
Mazda University mine is 2020, bought November 2019. It’s a head turning purple flip colour SL5. I’ve added Continental Gatorskin Hardshells & also a second wheelset from a friend’s SL6 with 35mm Panaracer GravelKing SKs.
Any critique? I'm also wanting to buy a domane
@@antonhelsgaun I absolutely love mine. I keep up with friends on fast city rides and have taken a ton of new PRs. It’s super comfortable on all day rides which was really noticeable on my biggest day of 201km.
Ability to run up to 38mm tyres is a game changer, and I run a set of road 32mm and another wheel set of 35mm knobby tyres (wish I’d gone 38 but was thinking of mudguards).
The bike is a bit heavier than Emonda. If the newest Emonda released at the same time I might’ve gone Emonda, but no regrets on Domane. Maybe test ride both to compare?
I’ve a few ride videos with Domane on my channel.
im so glad i have a first gen emonda slr, itll be a classic... this one is baiscally a 2013 madone
18 watts of drag improvement is seriously impressive. That would put it in the category of Swork Tarmac. Which is surprising given the seat tube and seatpost are still tradition round tubes. Not sure if thats just the result of the frame or with the contribution of the new integrated handlebars and wheels.
This seems similar to the KVF design from a few years ago upgraded with disc. The prices at 33% higher for the SL6 which used to be $2499 for the rim brake and now costs $3299 for this new design with disc brakes. Trek seems to alternate between oval tubes and the aero tube shapes every few years. In addition, all their bikes have gotten heavier with disc brakes. The old Emonda SLR6 to my recollection was 14.75 lbs and was in the $6000 range. I don't think you can find anything that low weight anymore without paying $10k or more.
my 2016 with a few changes is 14.25lb in size 58cm.
Beautiful bike! Wondering if you can explain in more detail about the stiffness of the OCVL 500 carbon?
Super informative and appreciate the explanations of the new technology and the new Emonda family. Valuable information when researching a new bike.
Awesome video! Thank you for sharing all the details.
Crazy light, crazy fast, and crazy expensive
not crazy light - barely breaks UCI limit in the highest trim...
lechprotean which is pretty good for an integrated bike with proper aero fairings and disc brakes.
100 grams or so lighter than the totl domane right?
As many people say: “light, aero, cost effective: you can pick 2”
Are u talking about the madone ha ha
Can you make a video on how this bike actually make in factory really want to see 🚴
Just ordered one. Trek uni makes the deal sweet!
learned one thing in life, you will make and spend money your whole life. Learn what you need and do not and find a budget that lets you get what you want. I buy my self a new road bike every 5 years and basically sell my old one for 1/4 of what I bought it for (down payment).
Someone's getting a good deal
2019 Emonda SLR RSL rim brake...love my pony...not a disk fan
nice paint but Pragma Glycogen is lighter total build.
Anders totally crushed this presentation! ✔️
😂
The new logo is really big. Apart from that, the rest is still beautiful.
This bike is sick
Trek between two ferns
Only have one question, when will the Speed Concept go disc brake?
Lol they must have seen Hambini’s video 😂😂 btw I have a emonda alr 5 - it’s really a lovely bike
Great vid! How does the new Emonda test in the tunnel compared to the Madone? (Low yaw angles 0-10 degrees)
Canyon has been offering aero cockpit on ultimate even on entry models with no fuss about it. But I like your design approach
Emonda has always been a fantastic bike. I own a ALR. The only thing I can say about this bike, it's too expensive! Pricing matters. As much as I love TREK, Canyon Ultimate would be the better choice due to pricing.
Ozzy I’d choose Trek over Canton any day as over the life of the bike I’ve always appreciated I can take to Trek for quality maintenance and their lifetime warranty on frames I have used once on a 5yr old bike. How does Canyon’s maintenance stack up?
Not according to Hambini. You should see what he has to say about their bottom brackets lol
all this technology al the cables in my DOMANE frame are clanking around. GMAFB little roughness feels like front is coming apart when you hear the noises.
cool job!
Anybody else realized how the disc brakes are not implemented in their CFD model?
Bellissima 😃 complimenti 👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼
Congratulations really good video.
Nice 👍 how to get the Trek cushion covers? 🙏
TREK ES LA MEJOR MARCA DEL MONDO.
How much does a 52cm Emonda weigh? Some one said it was 8kg, which is almost 18lbs! Not a climbing bike if that is the weight.
Think that's pretty accurate for the sl5 disc
Anyone know what is that Blue Colour Emonda in the background?? Reminds me of Gios bike
Give us discount so we can purchase this badass bike
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Does the '20 Emonda SL ride the same as the '21 SL; just that the '21 is slightly aero?
Both models are lightweight and stiff, but the new Emonda will lead the chase being aero and stiffer than past model years!
@@trekbikes just saw this. Thanks for the reply. I have since picked up a '21 sl5. It's an amazing bike. My next question: does the sl have the same ride characteristics as the slr; just that it's heavier?
good!
a Trek aerodynamics engineer asking the marketing guy if he can hook him up... Tragic. LOL
why did non of your cod modelling include spokes and hubs? Maybe it was factored in but it certainly didn't look like it was part of the modelling.
Hey trek bikes .i have a trek madone slr 7 segafredo (malton marble ).how ever i also have a cannondale super six evo sram red .its very face very lite .how ever i choose the trek madone slr7 bc its fast and aero.i think it will offer me more bike tnan my evo. my only dislike in regard to the madone is why did trek compromise on weight .does trek have future plans to make the madone super super lite while maintaining all its aero /speed talents .pls comply asap .*Kelly houston usmc/retired
Heavy as expensive
6.76 is heavy? Are you living in the moon or somewhere gravity is less powerful?
While road bikes can be lighter than 6 with no compromise, 6.8 ain’t a lead brick either.
It would be more than better if Trek has cheap road bikes
You get what you pay for but they have aluminium bikes that offer a lower price point as well if looking for something cheaper.
Our Domane AL models our the entry-level models we make to suit a lower price range.
Uh oh! Trek just stole youre KOM! 🤘
Trek bicycles around 5k~10k USD are too heavy for the cost or comparing to other brands.
They should be lighter at least 600g to 1,000g for each model.
They need innovation I think.
Virtually all of my ride is climbing.
Weight is important, but pedaling stiffness is primarily what I look for.
In this regard, Emonda rates only fair.
Emonda holds no appeal for me.
Hello my friend the sl 6 pro very much heavy 8 kilo!! For lightweight bike!!!
Yeah I agree. Not even lighter than my domane
I purchased EMONDA SL6 pro. The screw which constraints the turn of the handlebar was broken. Thus the turn went beyond the limit and the ring marked go-go-go hitted the frame. The paint got damaged. I brought the bike to my supplier and they talked to TREK. TREK installed a new screw and new ring go-go-go. TREK didn't want to repair the scratches on the paint of the frame caused by the limitless turning. Now I have a new super bike with scratches on the frame. I didn't expect that from TREK. Low customer support and poor warranty. Bad experience. I feel dissapointed. The bike itself is a super bike but the warranty service does not work as it should.
Sorry to hear about this! Our warranty does cover defects in manufacturing, but without knowing the cause of this bolt breaking, I can't speak for it. We suggest talking to your dealer to get assistance with locating a close matching touch-up paint for your scratches, otherwise, these may be able to be buffed out.
@@trekbikes My dealer (Probike, Barcelona Spain) stated TREK can't do anything else about the scratches. Scratches are the outcome of a broken bolt during manufacturing or installation. They sold me the bike without constraints in the handlebar turning. Nobody from Probike paid attention on that detail. I discover it by myself when scratches appeared. Then I found the issue. Firstly I tought it was an engineering deffect. I called Probike and brought them the bike and one of their mechanicians stated the bolt was broken. I feel deeply frustrated. TREK should provide dealers with some product training in order to avoid similar situations in the future. Moreover TREK customer support is not handling issues as expected. This is my second TREK bike and will be the last one if TREK doesn't fix this up.
@@rogerserra1315 If you have your warranty claim number, we'd be happy to look into this further. Give our team a call at 01908 360140
Nice
2021 Emonda = 2014 madone 7 with disc
Fucking
True
Don’t forget the speed concept 😩
You reckon we'll get a new SC soon and will it be rim brake or disc brakes??
N+1 formula
The Emonda SL5 is super heavy.
Give me one
First comment
Trek Abandoned their taller riders. no more 64cm on any frame. zzz
Me pueden regalar una bicicleta bien gracias bb
logo size is too big
Wot no rim brake
The top of the range Émonda SLR 9 at $11,000 US and weighing 6.8 kg and about middle of the range Émonda SL 7 at $ 5,000 US and weighing 7.8 kg.
None of the range is lightweight by anyone’s standards. To state ultralight is a bit of a joke. And don’t say aerodynamic is more important, just marketing nonsense.
Agreed. Though the sub-700 gram frame is kinda good, I suppose
Only their oclv800 is considered to be "ultra light", but ya, they should nake that distinction more apparent.
@@ayowser01 "their"
Afaik it's just a rebranding of a slightly better toray carbon fiber
Trek needs to work on their quality control.i don't like seeing videos of shiet product. I'm a Trek owner too.
:))
Y you stop making rum brake!!!!!
Lack of demand at this price level
type17 don’t want my claiming bike to be disc sorry 😔
We've never made rum brakes
5:05 'You wouldn't expect making something bigger make it lighter, but it does make it stiffer.' WTF DOES THAT MEAN ... aka i built a 4000lb bike.. trust me, it;s stiff!
To heavy
very expensive for no reason..giant tcr much better
Go back to rim brakes and cables on the outside so much better
It's all marketing bullshit. None of these subtle differences will make you a faster rider, nor will it make it a more comfortable (yet STIFFER) ride. Comfort always comes down to proper sizing, good mechanical maintenance and properly inflated 28mm tires. Everything else is just aesthetics.
So you're telling me your bikes are going to continue to cost thousands of dollars but you're going to continue subsidizing and providing bicycles to police forces? Who have shown clearly to use those same bicycles as weapons against the people you claim to want to buy your bikes? Fix yourselves Trek
Cops kills people bro bikes don’t kill people - lol - chill weirdo troll
Gary Bains I mean that's valid but imagine if trek would fuckin defund their bicycle police programs
The thing with defund police is that’s it too high risk. Imagine all the calls the police answer domestic abuse, house parties going to crazy, pulling over drunk drivers, ticketing distracted drivers, arresting people who are disturbing the peace etc etc...it’s hard to put a figure to how many lives the police save everyday. So even if only 90 % of police are good and 10% are bad- and those bad 10% kill 100 people a year but the 90% save 1000 people - it’s not perfect but it’s the best way we could do it. Now if we defund the police there would be anarchy...it would be the old world in the 1800s crime would become monopolized by the few...the world would not be better. What we need is more funding for the police, they need more training - cops should be situation trained twice a month.
Gary Bains the (reported) numbers show police consistently kill 1000 people each year, a number staying steady since 2015. defunding the police is not a call to remove the police presence, it is a call to change the way we approach our society. we wouldn't need to "invest" as much as we do as a society in the police if we would just fund better education and better social workers. think about how we as a society with our hard earned tax dollars could affect disadvantaged communities if a majority of our money went to actually teaching our children crucial life skills to keep them off the street? to keep them from growing up and thinking drinking while driving or texting while driving is okay? I see more people texting while driving. I see more people in cars harassing people who ride bikes and purposefully putting them at risk. But police never catch them. they rarely if ever ticket those people. Having reasons to arrest or threaten people for minor infractions is not a valid excuse for having a disproportionally funded police system
Let’s see what happens - Nypd is cutting 1 billion from the police budget. Now that’s not a whole lot from their overall budget, but 1 billon dollars should provide sizeable increase in funding for the programs you mentioned. Let’s circle back in 3 years and see what the results are.