Wow, I don't know how he can think the sound on the two different cameras are even marginally close to the same. I was curious myself but, at least on the speakers on my phone, the difference is massive. The 2016 sounds professional and perfect the 2017 sounds tinny and hollow. Just the huge difference if you've got decent speakers on your device
Terrific review, except for a couple of points. #1. The sound. The old version 1 of the Gear 360 is barely any worse than the main audio recording quality, which was probably recorded on a much better device. Meanwhile the sound recorded from the updated newer camera had no bass, or upper frequencies. #2. The "lens flare" in the older camera is not actually lens flare at all. The lines you see in the image is the reflection of the grooved or stepped moulding of the plastic bezel around the actual lens, inside the protective dome. Those of us who have broken, scratched, removed the protective dome, or technically savvy enough to mod the bezel, do not get the reflections of the barrel in the protective dome. Other than those two inaccuracies...excellent video review in general
Thanks for doing this video. anyways i will go with the 2016 because it is not as bulky in the height department. and when you put it on a bike mount or a helmet mount it does not stick up as much. also batteries can be swapped in the 2016
Will you be able to see the legs of this Manfrotto MTPIXIEVO-BK PIXI EVO 2 Section Mini Tripod on the Gear 360 2017? It's a bit wider than the first one!
Ben do u know about printed 360 photos .....it can be done with a 3d printer using gypsum ......also it can be done with paper but it's a bit time consuming ......I did a video about it recently .....sorry if I have mentioned this before ...I don't remember
Thanks for the review. I have a gear360 2017, using s10pus and galaxy tab s6 with Android 10 one UI 2.0. recently i can no longer access the gear card to transfer the photos directly to the s10pus. Samsung said that disabled this function for Android 10. This is a major disrespect to the consumer user. Do you recommend a third-party app to stitch stitch photos and videos together? I am not familiar with the V360 app, but I would just like to save the photos in the gallery together. Thank you.
I'm looking at a 2016, but only have an iphone, but I don't care about using either with my phone, are you saying they can't be used as a stand alone camera, where I can download footage from sd card to my pc?
As of January 27th, 2018, the price of the 2016 model is $68 on Amazon and $143 for the 2017 model. What a crazy drop in price in less than a year! I just got my 2016 model for $48 on Amazon but it's slightly used
The 2016 model can be removed from the tripod and mounted to a helmet ( with the Samsung Mount Kit for eg), which is a big bonus for me. Imagine the 2017 model stuck on top of your helmet, you can guess what it would look like !! Another bonus is in the UK, the 2016 costs £89 while the 2017 is £206.
Why does my gear 360 2016 look like there is a connection between the front and rear cameras (I see a few pictures that are missing between stirching, i see the border,, not 360 degrees smooth) ? 😓
@@BenClaremont thanks 😊 I think every time we save a video from a 360 camera to a mobile phone it's already stitching. So we have manual stitching? How?
LIFE in 360 Well I'm in Oregon and doesn't get hot very often. The Rylo looks like its $400 to $500 and I am not a pro photographer. I just bought a Gear 360 (2016) for $59 so I thought I would take a chance. I really like your production quality and delivery of information. Thanks a million.
I was also going to ask, do you know of any low cost gimbles; as when I shoot videos with my Gear 360.while I am walking, there is a noticible bounce in the video with every step I take. Thanks.
Is there a relatively similarly-priced camera that is better all around?
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I want to know if in 2020 the Samsung leave an update for improve more features in the gear 360 2017. I want to work with this camera, and how I am starting my job with this market, i think this camera is good for me. and also?
Hi, I'm gonna buy one of those cams, but I'd want to use it with my Huawei Mate 8 (modded manager app). Maybe does the older one require a less powerful phone than the 2017 device? Or do they both require the same minimum hardware?
LIFE in 360 I don't think Samsung would advice using unofficial modded apps with non-Samsung devices. Anyway, I just bought the older cam for 79,99 euros, I'll find out by myself! Thank you
I just purchased the 16 model, and , I'm confused about charging the battery. 'do I need to buy a charger? or can I charge the battery through the camera using the usb cable they included in the package?
Can I use the gear 360 2017 to record my daughters softball games? I just want to set up the camera behind home plate and hit record. Is this possible? Can you give me any pointers?
+Dimas Videomaker given the lesser resolution, if you zoom in a bit it's going to show as soft. Try again in more controlled lighting and see if there's a difference 👍
Hey Is it possible to get the camera of the previous model 2016 for a phone that is not Samsung Android? Would you be happy to know how to do it? Thanks
Did they not lower the resolution in order to make the sensor less crowded (as it's smaller) and get better low light performance..... relatively speaking....
This issue... I still can't get it to import without artifacts using my MacBook Pro (us.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearable-Tech/Gear-360-Action-Director-Black-box-artifact-in-center-of-screen/td-p/58816)
Heya. The 2017 footage is very noisy for me, even outside in sunlight. I have the iso set to lowest at 400. I'm stitching via S8. When I view it in the Gear VR headset it's so flippin noisey. I know the pixels are getting stretched in a headset. But my clips seem way noisier than yours(and you've uploaded yours to YT too ha) Any other tips? I have HDR on, but is that doing anything for video shooting. I seem to remember 2016 footage being less noisey. Cheers!
+Matt Oliver I know what you mean! Hmm.. will test this further. But for now I'd say play around with the exposure settings as much as you can to try and reduce it, including white balance, exposure compensation, HDR etc.
Thanks a lot for the complete review, my G360 2016 rear lens just died today because of overheating... The camera froze while turning on and my gf couldn't manage to get the stucked battery out on her own, by the time she reached me the rear lense was dead (about 1h later). So easy battery access could potentially save your camera from damage, it's not only for long shooting days, just saying :) This review was super helpful, especially the part on the fog pb because I really was wondering if Samsung fixed it. I couldn't find anyone addressing this issue, but now I know thanks to you ! Keep on the good work. Cheers
If your girlfriend gets stuck in such a situation again, tell her to go to the nearest electronics store, or a hardware store if she can't find an electronics store. Even getting a bag of ice from a restaurant, placing the camera on top of the bag for just a few minutes might lower it's temperature enough to save it. It must have been very hot the day she shot the video as, mine hasn't fogged up or over heated thus far.
I'm having three problems with my 2017 unit: 1) It overheats, causing the recording to stop. 2) A long recording is split up into multiple MP4 files under 2GB each, even though the SD card was formatted in camera to exFAT. 3) The Mac desktop software does not install, complaining of incompatible VGA graphics card. My MacBook Pro has Intel HD 4000. Any help with any of these problems?
+Douglas Shieh 1) are you shooting in a climate with a not-too-hot temperature, and using a fast (95mb/s+) micro SD card? 2) almost all video cameras divide really long clips up into shorter ones, which you can reconnect later in your editor. 3) if you have an older computer, which it sounds like you do, the graphics card won't be fast enough to handle 4k footage. Gotta have good hardware if you want to process high res video 👍
Thanks so much for your response. 1) Yes, I am. Is this condition conducive to overheating? 2) So the file splits are expected for the Gear 360? Seems silly since the exFAT file system does not have the 2GB file size limit. 3) Late 2012 MacBook Pro. Too old/underpowered?
any idea what the bandwidth is when streaming live. i have a 4g s8 so suspect the phone is good for the option but i only have 6 gig data per month. i need to make sure i dont gobble it up
great video! Quick question, can the 2017 360 cam be used like a nest cam since it has a streaming capabilities? i sorta wanna use it to monitor my dog at home. I do not want to stream publicly.
+json405 thanks- honestly I'm not sure about that one.. it would be a lot of work to set it up every time and you'd need to host it privately through RUclips or elsewhere. My suggestion would be streaming through a non-360 camera that is better equipped for surveillance.
I bought the 2016 model on Amazon in 2017 for only $94. After seeing the comparison, I'm glad I got the 2016 model. Plan on using it on the Indianapolis Canal Gondola ride. Had it mounted on the top of my car with a suction mount and it worked great.
After I follow your channel I decided to bought the 2017 one and SS S7edge. Because it compatible with Phone with android 7.0 but it open my world to take new style of photos in Thailand. Thank you for many techniques, I got from you. :)
LIFE in 360 That is pretty disappointing but in line with your thoughts on Samsung. So you'd still recommend the 2016 model over the 2017? Going to pull the trigger this weekend on either a used 2016 for around £70 or a new 2017 for £100...
Haha! No doubt...I think that's a number of steps up! I saw your other video about the upcoming cameras and thought the YI 360 VR Camera looked like a good option.
Right now, as I am typing this, amazon has the 2016 for $145 new shipped and sold by them. I had $75 in bestbuy reward points, so I went into the store had them price match the $145 which they did, then used my $75 and now my 2016 model is $75 total after tax. Needless to say, at that price point, it cannot be beat. I have a SJcam4000, Hero 3 White, and 80D Canon. So this is a nice toy at that price.
I'm late to this video but I have two questions, right now I'm considering the 2016 model because of price and sound so these questions are mainly for that camera. Do you know if I can edit the 360 video in adobe premiere elements 14? My second question is regarding battery life. How long does it last if it is continually recording in a room? Could I run it off of a power bank and have it record at the same time? Thank you
Quick question - Amazon (US) selling the 2016 for less than $100 today - is it worth getting at that price, even if you DON'T have a samsung phone - ie: can you process just on PC/Mac - I heard that you lose some functions? cheers
right now I'm still non the wiser as to which one to buy lol. I just want it to video special family moments like holidays and birthdays, no action video or anything like that. I just want a nice smooth good quality video? what one do you reckon I should opt for???
LIFE in 360 Ooh okay. I've seen that my Gear 360 2016 is due for an firmware update. So what you are saying is that I should avoid this firmware update 😂
well, you definitely covered all the pros and turned their cons into compromises. I have a volunteering project of putting a 34 km bicycle lake trail on the google street view - do you think 2016 would be enough for stills?
the significant difference is the 1080s live streaming from the 2017 .....but the samples I have seen r really bad quality and the wobble he mentioned about the 2017 is quite annoying.... until it's fixed so if the 2016 is way cheaper....on a sale or second hand with warranty left over it looks like the better choice
+Unique Photo and Video it doesn't record audio separately so it's joined to the .mp4 video file. And there is a wind filter which you can activate within the app for both, although without a proper windsock there's not a whole lot something like that can do.
Thank you for information! Keep up the great work! I recently subscribed! :D Will you consider making a video about your 360 workflow for video editing?
Unique Photo and Video cool! Actually my next big project is going to be a professional video training course about how to get a high end result from 360 video with consumer cameras.. keep your eyes peeled in the next few months!
LIFE in 360 the newer version can't or can it? I think it would be fairly cumbersome standing up that high off of a helmet. Still I am currious, can you screw some sort of mount into the second generation model?
I recently pulled out my Gear 360 2016 and took some pictures. However the picture are not viewable on my Samsung Note 5 anymore. All pictures are black on the phone. Does anyone have this issue or know of a fix on this issue? Thanks.
Thanks. I reinstalled the app and updated firmware on the camera. Still doesn't fix the problem. I will reset the phone next. I know that there were a couple of OS updates on the phone since the last time that the 360 picture view was working correctly.
I have the 2016 version, and the only things I really don't like, and had hoped they would fix (even as a software upgrade), is the stitching and the resolution / overall image quality, so it's weird to see that the new version is actually _worse_ there. Plus the 2017 model, even though slimmer, is bigger since you can't remove the base (or did I misunderstand?). Plus better pictures in darker environments with the 2016... I guess I'll keep my 2016 version.
I got both for Christmas and each cost $75 the 2017 came by mistake I think when my son ordered the 2016 they sent the 2017. Tried to returnit but they won't answer emails ... tough luck for them.
the problem with the 2017 battery is more about ....if u don't use it regularly or whatever and the battery is dead in 1-2 years ......not so much about popping in another battery to keep going
Hi! Thanks for this great video! I still haven't made up my mind between these two guys though. I am wondering which one would be the best for VR. What do you think ? Thanks
+Marie Ivanoff no problem Marie! VR is basically the same as watching the footage back on a computer, in which they're identical. Honestly the points I discussed are more important than this.. it's better you have a camera that's suited to what you're shooting to begin with 👍
Hey great review. Don't mean to derail the topic, but will you do a video on all the Accessories that you have for the 360 Cameras? The only thing I've purchased so far was the manfrotto 2in1 and the mini tripod you recommended. As always, love your videos. Cheers
Thanks a lot! Whenever i discover a 'must have' accessory, i'll usually make a vid about it. I also try to incorporate them into my other vids as well (for example the light stand in the last video). Will keep an eye out for more cool things and will be sure to post!
I think the 2016 is better for someone who ride bikes/dirtbikes because you can take the legs off and mount it to a helmetwith more stabilization opposed to the 2017 the handle is built in and you have abetter chance at keeping itstaying cool although they should've made it a bit smaller
Does not disprove my statement. Sure you can buy a high class microphone along with a portable recorder. But you are comparing two cameras here. The 360 (2017) sounds like there is a high-pass filter on it to me.
+Yuennaes they're both equally not good. Sound recording is like the 15th thing you should be looking for from a 360 camera, also a decent sound recorder is not that expensive.
LIFE in 360 I agree. But also think even a high class 360 camera won't beat a external recording system. And not everyone wants to carry around an extra device ((even though it's improving the sound massively) So you should compare the sound on a lower level. For me it's just the fact that they introduce a new version of the same product but lower the sound quality. (To me it's sounds like that the 360 (2017) is recording with a lower spectrum. ). It's not a no go. I'm just saying they are both bad quality, but the 2017 sounds way more worse (to me). Would have been cool if Samsung would have implement directional sensitive microphones on each side.
+Yuennaes it'd be cool, but also realize that they're both under $200 cameras and when you look at everything they deliver for that price, you really can't expect more for such a small price point. Yeah I'd love them to both be 8k and have perfect sound quality, but for $200 that ain't gonna happen (well not for now anyway).
superb video, great info. I love my 2016 as Im primarily into photography and the older model takes amazing images BUT I might get the new one as well just for video? PS the 2016 sound is way way better.
2016 all the way. just as well because i just brought one the other day... but i cant connect it to my phones through the app though (s5 neo & j5) do i need to upgrade? (seems to be connected though Bluetooth and i can get street view working)
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11:40 🤔 I think audio is better on 2016 .
its more natural on the 2016 although 2017 is a bit more clear.
I think the 2016 is much better too!
Without a doubt.
Totally! I recorded a fragment of a death metal concert and the sound was soo clear lol
Tampatec yeah, completely agree, the 2017 was vastly more tinny and artificial sounding while the 2016 is a lot more natural which better base.
Wow, I don't know how he can think the sound on the two different cameras are even marginally close to the same. I was curious myself but, at least on the speakers on my phone, the difference is massive. The 2016 sounds professional and perfect the 2017 sounds tinny and hollow. Just the huge difference if you've got decent speakers on your device
Terrific review, except for a couple of points. #1. The sound. The old version 1 of the Gear 360 is barely any worse than the main audio recording quality, which was probably recorded on a much better device. Meanwhile the sound recorded from the updated newer camera had no bass, or upper frequencies. #2. The "lens flare" in the older camera is not actually lens flare at all. The lines you see in the image is the reflection of the grooved or stepped moulding of the plastic bezel around the actual lens, inside the protective dome. Those of us who have broken, scratched, removed the protective dome, or technically savvy enough to mod the bezel, do not get the reflections of the barrel in the protective dome. Other than those two inaccuracies...excellent video review in general
Thanks for doing this video. anyways i will go with the 2016 because it is not as bulky in the height department. and when you put it on a bike mount or a helmet mount it does not stick up as much. also batteries can be swapped in the 2016
Cool!
I got the 2017 free with my phone, looking forward to try it in Japan soon
Nice
Will you be able to see the legs of this Manfrotto MTPIXIEVO-BK PIXI EVO 2 Section Mini Tripod on the Gear 360 2017? It's a bit wider than the first one!
+The Meza Family Vlogs yeah definitely
is the 2017 still good at 2023 or is there any similar video 360 camera with the same price as the smasung gear 360 (2017)?
Want to find out too!
Thank you. Very well presented and helpful.
How to grading the color (brightness/contrast/saturation)? Camera setting or with an application?
+fachmi Nasrun you can do basic white balance within the app, then you can grade it later in Premiere 👍
Ben do u know about printed 360 photos .....it can be done with a 3d printer using gypsum ......also it can be done with paper but it's a bit time consuming ......I did a video about it recently .....sorry if I have mentioned this before ...I don't remember
Hey.. no i haven't really looked too much into it. Is it worth doing?
Thanks for the review. I have a gear360 2017, using s10pus and galaxy tab s6 with Android 10 one UI 2.0. recently i can no longer access the gear card to transfer the photos directly to the s10pus. Samsung said that disabled this function for Android 10. This is a major disrespect to the consumer user. Do you recommend a third-party app to stitch stitch photos and videos together? I am not familiar with the V360 app, but I would just like to save the photos in the gallery together. Thank you.
These cameras don't support live viewing from Gear VR right? Just from the phone? Is the live streaming in 360 too? Thanks...great videos.
true after 30 minutes my 2016 over heated. liked 👍 the review I might upgrade and use other as a backup.
Tampatec if you use a battery pack with a long micro USB power cable, you can run the camera longer without it overheating.
I'm looking at a 2016, but only have an iphone, but I don't care about using either with my phone, are you saying they can't be used as a stand alone camera, where I can download footage from sd card to my pc?
As of January 27th, 2018, the price of the 2016 model is $68 on Amazon and $143 for the 2017 model. What a crazy drop in price in less than a year! I just got my 2016 model for $48 on Amazon but it's slightly used
Bargain!
Today how i can make the update of firmware for Gear 360 2017? (Not working from Android App). Thanks
The 2016 model can be removed from the tripod and mounted to a helmet ( with the Samsung Mount Kit for eg), which is a big bonus for me. Imagine the 2017 model stuck on top of your helmet, you can guess what it would look like !! Another bonus is in the UK, the 2016 costs £89 while the 2017 is £206.
+mobit76 hahahaha!
Why does my gear 360 2016 look like there is a connection between the front and rear cameras (I see a few pictures that are missing between stirching, i see the border,, not 360 degrees smooth) ? 😓
Probably because you have not stitched your images...
@@BenClaremont thanks 😊 I think every time we save a video from a 360 camera to a mobile phone it's already stitching. So we have manual stitching? How?
want to ask, brother, can this Samsung 360 camera be used independently without a smartphone?
Hi can it be used as wifi camera like set at home and when you are away you can look at what camrea sees thanks
Your videos have been very helpful, they are very good. Do you know where I can buy ger 360 lenses (2017)? Greetings from Cali, Colombia
Thanks, no you can’t buy lenses for it
Will you do a video to show all the gadgets you can attach both to??
+Tyler Futrell hey- you might want to look through my other vids for my favorite accessories!
I plan on using the 2016 model on a quadcopter, do you think it would have the overheating problem flying on a quad? thanks a million.
It may if the weather is too warm.. honestly I’d suggest something else now like the Rylo 👍
LIFE in 360 Well I'm in Oregon and doesn't get hot very often. The Rylo looks like its $400 to $500 and I am not a pro photographer. I just bought a Gear 360 (2016) for $59 so I thought I would take a chance. I really like your production quality and delivery of information. Thanks a million.
I was also going to ask, do you know of any low cost gimbles; as when I shoot videos with my Gear 360.while I am walking, there is a noticible bounce in the video with every step I take. Thanks.
BTW, some of my kids are on YT at Asthetics and Insights.
Honestly it’s cheaper just getting a camera with stabilization like Insta360 One 👍
Is there a relatively similarly-priced camera that is better all around?
I want to know if in 2020 the Samsung leave an update for improve more features in the gear 360 2017. I want to work with this camera, and how I am starting my job with this market, i think this camera is good for me. and also?
Hi, I'm gonna buy one of those cams, but I'd want to use it with my Huawei Mate 8 (modded manager app). Maybe does the older one require a less powerful phone than the 2017 device? Or do they both require the same minimum hardware?
Check the Samsung website for device compatibility 👍
LIFE in 360 I don't think Samsung would advice using unofficial modded apps with non-Samsung devices. Anyway, I just bought the older cam for 79,99 euros, I'll find out by myself! Thank you
Do you know how to fix the problem of the excess of zoom and pixelation when exporting with premiere pro?
I just purchased the 16 model, and , I'm confused about charging the battery. 'do I need to buy a charger? or can I charge the battery through the camera using the usb cable they included in the package?
Just charge the camera with the battery inside 👍
Can I use the gear 360 2017 to record my daughters softball games? I just want to set up the camera behind home plate and hit record. Is this possible? Can you give me any pointers?
Hi Jenny, yes of course you can. I have lots of tutorials on my channel that are filled with shooting tips :)
Nice!My Samsung 2017 is showing some blur in photo mode. Is this normal?
+Dimas Videomaker given the lesser resolution, if you zoom in a bit it's going to show as soft. Try again in more controlled lighting and see if there's a difference 👍
thank you,I will try.
By chance, I ended up with both, and its a pain to have to take both out because they are better at different things.
Hey
Is it possible to get the camera of the previous model 2016 for a phone that is not Samsung Android?
Would you be happy to know how to do it?
Thanks
I don’t think so but you could always ask in the Facebook group 👍
Did they not lower the resolution in order to make the sensor less crowded (as it's smaller) and get better low light performance..... relatively speaking....
+Robert Leather yeah like I mentioned the camera is obviously smaller, but the low light performance isn't an improvement as you saw.
I'm wondering, is it possible to choose settings like hdr, timelaps, ..... on the gear 360 (2017) without smartphone?
+klungelair it sure is 😉
I just notice that your video in your low light video is not right. The label is not right. Kindly check it. Thank you
Yes the labels are correct! A 360 camera cannot see itself.
Do you know how to fix the black spot when stitching images with the Gear 2016? Thanks!
+orcinoman not sure what you mean
This issue... I still can't get it to import without artifacts using my MacBook Pro (us.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearable-Tech/Gear-360-Action-Director-Black-box-artifact-in-center-of-screen/td-p/58816)
Very good video I consult you for what is photography which of the 2 is better and in what format they work thanks
Heya. The 2017 footage is very noisy for me, even outside in sunlight. I have the iso set to lowest at 400. I'm stitching via S8. When I view it in the Gear VR headset it's so flippin noisey. I know the pixels are getting stretched in a headset. But my clips seem way noisier than yours(and you've uploaded yours to YT too ha)
Any other tips? I have HDR on, but is that doing anything for video shooting.
I seem to remember 2016 footage being less noisey.
Cheers!
+Matt Oliver I know what you mean! Hmm.. will test this further. But for now I'd say play around with the exposure settings as much as you can to try and reduce it, including white balance, exposure compensation, HDR etc.
Thanks a lot for the complete review, my G360 2016 rear lens just died today because of overheating... The camera froze while turning on and my gf couldn't manage to get the stucked battery out on her own, by the time she reached me the rear lense was dead (about 1h later).
So easy battery access could potentially save your camera from damage, it's not only for long shooting days, just saying :)
This review was super helpful, especially the part on the fog pb because I really was wondering if Samsung fixed it. I couldn't find anyone addressing this issue, but now I know thanks to you !
Keep on the good work.
Cheers
+Antoine Le Guen hey really glad it was helpful 🤙🏻
If your girlfriend gets stuck in such a situation again, tell her to go to the nearest electronics store, or a hardware store if she can't find an electronics store. Even getting a bag of ice from a restaurant, placing the camera on top of the bag for just a few minutes might lower it's temperature enough to save it. It must have been very hot the day she shot the video as, mine hasn't fogged up or over heated thus far.
Actually is it worth it to get the old gear 360? Particularly if I want photos? Or shall I wait for the Theta?
Both of them are very worth it, and yes the Theta 4k is going to be awesome but it's probably still months away.
I'm having three problems with my 2017 unit:
1) It overheats, causing the recording to stop.
2) A long recording is split up into multiple MP4 files under 2GB each, even though the SD card was formatted in camera to exFAT.
3) The Mac desktop software does not install, complaining of incompatible VGA graphics card. My MacBook Pro has Intel HD 4000.
Any help with any of these problems?
+Douglas Shieh 1) are you shooting in a climate with a not-too-hot temperature, and using a fast (95mb/s+) micro SD card? 2) almost all video cameras divide really long clips up into shorter ones, which you can reconnect later in your editor. 3) if you have an older computer, which it sounds like you do, the graphics card won't be fast enough to handle 4k footage. Gotta have good hardware if you want to process high res video 👍
Thanks so much for your response.
1) Yes, I am. Is this condition conducive to overheating?
2) So the file splits are expected for the Gear 360? Seems silly since the exFAT file system does not have the 2GB file size limit.
3) Late 2012 MacBook Pro. Too old/underpowered?
+Douglas Shieh no problem. Yes your MacBook is too old unfortunately- you need a lot of RAM and a fast graphics card to process 4k footage 👍
any idea what the bandwidth is when streaming live. i have a 4g s8 so suspect the phone is good for the option but i only have 6 gig data per month. i need to make sure i dont gobble it up
Not sure 🤔
great video! Quick question, can the 2017 360 cam be used like a nest cam since it has a streaming capabilities? i sorta wanna use it to monitor my dog at home. I do not want to stream publicly.
+json405 thanks- honestly I'm not sure about that one.. it would be a lot of work to set it up every time and you'd need to host it privately through RUclips or elsewhere. My suggestion would be streaming through a non-360 camera that is better equipped for surveillance.
I bought the 2016 model on Amazon in 2017 for only $94. After seeing the comparison, I'm glad I got the 2016 model. Plan on using it on the Indianapolis Canal Gondola ride. Had it mounted on the top of my car with a suction mount and it worked great.
Awesome! Glad to hear it.
After I follow your channel I decided to bought the 2017 one and SS S7edge. Because it compatible with Phone with android 7.0 but it open my world to take new style of photos in Thailand. Thank you for many techniques, I got from you. :)
+Siripattana Sangduen hey that's awesome to hear! Keep it up my friend.
Have they fixed the stitching issue on the 2017 where the picture looks like it moves?
Nope
LIFE in 360 That is pretty disappointing but in line with your thoughts on Samsung. So you'd still recommend the 2016 model over the 2017? Going to pull the trigger this weekend on either a used 2016 for around £70 or a new 2017 for £100...
You should check out my other videos as there are now lots of other options 👍
@7:00, - What would be the next step up in 360 video?
+Husk Productions Insta360 Pro 😎
Haha! No doubt...I think that's a number of steps up! I saw your other video about the upcoming cameras and thought the YI 360 VR Camera looked like a good option.
Right now, as I am typing this, amazon has the 2016 for $145 new shipped and sold by them. I had $75 in bestbuy reward points, so I went into the store had them price match the $145 which they did, then used my $75 and now my 2016 model is $75 total after tax. Needless to say, at that price point, it cannot be beat. I have a SJcam4000, Hero 3 White, and 80D Canon. So this is a nice toy at that price.
+Hgaara0204 score!!! Congrats 👊🏻
Hgaara0204 overkill
I'm late to this video but I have two questions, right now I'm considering the 2016 model because of price and sound so these questions are mainly for that camera. Do you know if I can edit the 360 video in adobe premiere elements 14? My second question is regarding battery life. How long does it last if it is continually recording in a room? Could I run it off of a power bank and have it record at the same time? Thank you
I haven’t used elements but t works in Premiere. It will record for up to an hour otherwise
Quick question - Amazon (US) selling the 2016 for less than $100 today - is it worth getting at that price, even if you DON'T have a samsung phone - ie: can you process just on PC/Mac - I heard that you lose some functions? cheers
+caterhamnut honestly I wouldn't- it's gonna be too hard to use
Hey, how do you make full screen for 2016 gear 360 cause I am stuck in vr
What do you mean make full screen?
LIFE in 360 to get rid of those two rings on the screen
right now I'm still non the wiser as to which one to buy lol.
I just want it to video special family moments like holidays and birthdays, no action video or anything like that. I just want a nice smooth good quality video?
what one do you reckon I should opt for???
+Richard Langton I'd say the 2017, because of expanded compatibility and portability 👍
can i use Samsung Gear C-200 without Samsung cellphone ... Take pictures or videos etc...
+Sonia Sharma c200?
Samsung Gear 360 SM-C200
Hi guys, can you use the 2016 camera on a samsung s10? I just find that camera a better looking thing. Cheers.
Yeah... waiting for your answer..
2016 or 2017 which one u prefer fr s10?
Given that I can find them both for the same price, which should I get? Mostly photos, some video.
If this video doesn’t answer that question I don’t know what will!
Can you charge as you record on the 2017?
Yeah
Ben, Did Samsung fix the stitching problem on the gear 360 2017? 4:40
+Pursue360 not yet unfortunately and I think they've even added it to the 2016 in a recent firmware update..
LIFE in 360 Ooh okay. I've seen that my Gear 360 2016 is due for an firmware update. So what you are saying is that I should avoid this firmware update 😂
+Pursue360 100% 😂
LIFE in 360 😂🙈🙈
Which iPhone is suitable for Samsung gear 2016. And best software for video editing and adding graphics to the video
Like I said in this video, the 2016 isn’t compatible with iPhone 👍
Probably for start up I will get the older one and then if I like I will go in a more expensive machine !!! That is for sharing !!
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thanks, now i'm completely lost between these two guys...
Haha, the goal of this video was to make the decision easier..
well, you definitely covered all the pros and turned their cons into compromises. I have a volunteering project of putting a 34 km bicycle lake trail on the google street view - do you think 2016 would be enough for stills?
For a volunteer project, absolutely!
the significant difference is the 1080s live streaming from the 2017 .....but the samples I have seen r really bad quality
and the wobble he mentioned about the 2017 is quite annoying.... until it's fixed
so if the 2016 is way cheaper....on a sale or second hand with warranty left over it looks like the better choice
I will say I've been put into the same boat, was just about to order now I'm beyond confused. It's like neither one is the perfect choice..
Thanks for the video! Do you know if the 2016 model is compatible with Samsung A7(2016)?
Not sure sorry!
the 2016 version is $90US on amazon now! just put my order through now
+Tim McDermott well spotted!
Thanks a lot for the review. It's very important for me to choose cheap and good enough device to make interactive 360 e-learning solutions.
Which audio format does the Gear 360 use?
How does the device handle wind noise?
+Unique Photo and Video it doesn't record audio separately so it's joined to the .mp4 video file. And there is a wind filter which you can activate within the app for both, although without a proper windsock there's not a whole lot something like that can do.
Thank you for information! Keep up the great work! I recently subscribed! :D
Will you consider making a video about your 360 workflow for video editing?
Unique Photo and Video cool! Actually my next big project is going to be a professional video training course about how to get a high end result from 360 video with consumer cameras.. keep your eyes peeled in the next few months!
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The thing about the older version is that it can easily be helmet mounted with a fly 360 threaded mount
Sure
LIFE in 360 the newer version can't or can it? I think it would be fairly cumbersome standing up that high off of a helmet. Still I am currious, can you screw some sort of mount into the second generation model?
Have any of the issues for the 2017 version been fixed by Samsung since this video was made?
Nah don’t think so
bro, when will Instagram allow 360 photos? do you have any idea?
+doktor baki no idea!
Hi, Means i am unable to connect my gear 360 2016 version to my iphone 7plus?
+Zhang Qinping correct
Even if I update the firmware?
2016 model is just competible with samsung devices
What would be a good time to try this? What camera is better?
What do you mean?
I will buy this camera soon. Which is better?
is there a way to stich 360gear 2016 on mac worflow?
+Mauricio FRANCO TOSSO yes, just look through my channel for a tutorial
I recently pulled out my Gear 360 2016 and took some pictures. However the picture are not viewable on my Samsung Note 5 anymore. All pictures are black on the phone. Does anyone have this issue or know of a fix on this issue? Thanks.
+ericdaozero I haven't heard of this! May be an issue with your phone, or the app
Thanks. I reinstalled the app and updated firmware on the camera. Still doesn't fix the problem. I will reset the phone next. I know that there were a couple of OS updates on the phone since the last time that the 360 picture view was working correctly.
Does anyone know if the 2016 one is compatible with the Samsung a50
2019 now. Has the 2017 software improved on the stitching?
Nope
It has now. New firmware took care of many issues.
Any improvements on 2016 version?.
Is it worth buying any of these in 2020
What sd card are you guys using for the 2017 360?
+ryanrunss check out my overheating video a few videos after this one!
What about it hiding the tripod and stick while holding it cause I notice you see your hand holding it
What about it?
I have the 2016 version, and the only things I really don't like, and had hoped they would fix (even as a software upgrade), is the stitching and the resolution / overall image quality, so it's weird to see that the new version is actually _worse_ there. Plus the 2017 model, even though slimmer, is bigger since you can't remove the base (or did I misunderstand?). Plus better pictures in darker environments with the 2016... I guess I'll keep my 2016 version.
+JohnDoeSchmoe you might want to consider brands other than Samsung if you want a big upgrade.. there are so many now!
I got both for Christmas and each cost $75 the 2017 came by mistake I think when my son ordered the 2016 they sent the 2017. Tried to returnit but they won't answer emails ... tough luck for them.
Score!
I agree the 2016 sounds better and to me might still be a winner in my eyes
the problem with the 2017 battery is more about ....if u don't use it regularly or whatever and the battery is dead in 1-2 years ......not so much about popping in another battery to keep going
+pumpuppthevolume do you mean the 2016 or 2017?
well the battery of the 2016 is user replaceable ......and I'm not saying non user removable battery is a problem ....I'm just thinking down the line
+pumpuppthevolume true, but it's impossible to predict something like that just weeks after a camera is released.
I bet In like 2 years, these current 360 cameras are gonna be like 20 bucks sooooo by then you might as well just toss it and get a better one by then
Hi! Thanks for this great video! I still haven't made up my mind between these two guys though. I am wondering which one would be the best for VR. What do you think ? Thanks
+Marie Ivanoff no problem Marie! VR is basically the same as watching the footage back on a computer, in which they're identical. Honestly the points I discussed are more important than this.. it's better you have a camera that's suited to what you're shooting to begin with 👍
I picked up the 2016 on Amazon for 108 dollars a few weeks ago. I don't see the need for the 2017 version.
+Nick Guidry bargain!
I won the 2016 in a contest and I only have an IPhone, can I still use it somehow?
Nope
What is the video like when viewing through a VR headset?
What do you mean what’s it like?
Hey great review. Don't mean to derail the topic, but will you do a video on all the Accessories that you have for the 360 Cameras? The only thing I've purchased so far was the manfrotto 2in1 and the mini tripod you recommended. As always, love your videos. Cheers
Thanks a lot! Whenever i discover a 'must have' accessory, i'll usually make a vid about it. I also try to incorporate them into my other vids as well (for example the light stand in the last video). Will keep an eye out for more cool things and will be sure to post!
LIFE in 360 thanks alot. keep up the good work and I'll be sure to watch out for them.
I think the 2016 is better for someone who ride bikes/dirtbikes because you can take the legs off and mount it to a helmetwith more stabilization opposed to the 2017 the handle is built in and you have abetter chance at keeping itstaying cool although they should've made it a bit smaller
does anyone know, if the 2016 version is compatible with iOs?
+Ales sandro nah it's not unfortunately- didn't I cover this in the video?
I think Samsung update the firmware, maybe next test with newest firmware?
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Can i make 360 live stream on Facebook with the 2016 camera?
+Francesco Giallombardo nope!
I can do live in facebook or instagram with 2016 model?
+Raphael Volpe nope!
In my opinion, the sound of the 2016 is way more better than the 2017 model.
+Yuennaes in my opinion, recording sound professionally is way more better than relying on a 360 camera 😂
Does not disprove my statement. Sure you can buy a high class microphone along with a portable recorder. But you are comparing two cameras here. The 360 (2017) sounds like there is a high-pass filter on it to me.
+Yuennaes they're both equally not good. Sound recording is like the 15th thing you should be looking for from a 360 camera, also a decent sound recorder is not that expensive.
LIFE in 360 I agree. But also think even a high class 360 camera won't beat a external recording system. And not everyone wants to carry around an extra device ((even though it's improving the sound massively) So you should compare the sound on a lower level. For me it's just the fact that they introduce a new version of the same product but lower the sound quality. (To me it's sounds like that the 360 (2017) is recording with a lower spectrum. ). It's not a no go. I'm just saying they are both bad quality, but the 2017 sounds way more worse (to me). Would have been cool if Samsung would have implement directional sensitive microphones on each side.
+Yuennaes it'd be cool, but also realize that they're both under $200 cameras and when you look at everything they deliver for that price, you really can't expect more for such a small price point. Yeah I'd love them to both be 8k and have perfect sound quality, but for $200 that ain't gonna happen (well not for now anyway).
tkx friend for the video, i want to know, how i can for live streaming with samsung 2016 or 2017
tkx for all ;)
+Mohamed ksouri hey- you can only stream with the 2017, and you can see how to do it in my previous review video of that camera 👍
But in the website of samsung he say we can stream with samsung 2016 ?
+Mohamed ksouri you might want to read it again, because it can't 👎
superb video, great info. I love my 2016 as Im primarily into photography and the older model takes amazing images BUT I might get the new one as well just for video?
PS the 2016 sound is way way better.
+despotmurgatroid glad it was helpful! And definitely get the new one if you can afford it.
Witch one I can use with iPhone or iPad ?
Did you watch this video lol
9:52 you labelled the cameras wrong. You can see the left is the 2016 version but it says 2017 underneath it and the same the other way around.
+Tazer Urbex sorry but you're wrong, a 360 camera CANNOT see itself. Labels are correct.
Thanks for the reviews. Ended up ordering the 2017 from Verizon with the $50 gift card. Nice to have all the info that concerns me being new to 360
No problem, and good choice!
2016 all the way. just as well because i just brought one the other day... but i cant connect it to my phones through the app though (s5 neo & j5) do i need to upgrade?
(seems to be connected though Bluetooth and i can get street view working)
john doe check the phone compatibility on Samsung's website.. it's basically the last few models of Samsung galaxy that it's compatible with.
should i upgrade to gear 360 2017 i have lg 360 cam
+kc0isw it's definitely better- almost anything I've been posting about recently will be an upgrade from the LG 👍
Excellent review
Are these better than the fly360 4k
Yes
@@BenClaremont thanks what do you think of the fly360 cameras? I haven't seen you talk about them. Thanks!