Why is Contraception Wrong?
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2017
- Why does the Catholic Church teach that contraception is wrong? Is there any biblical support for the teaching? Find out in this edition of #AllThatCatholicStuff
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Wow... it’s almost like that... made sense. And I’m not even Catholic. Thanks!
So is drinking sugar free coke immoral? The purpose of sweet taste is to acquire calories through sugar consumption. Are sugar-free products sinful?
DrMakak that would be changing the analogy... your new analogy would be more along the lines of a couple engaging in the marital act, while knowing one may be infertile. The difference is they are still open to life. Kind of like drinking water, which also has zero calories. Hope that clarifies.
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You came to my school. Your daughter said she was getting married.
The Catholics have no problem changing with the times and bending due to social pressures #Filioque
The Filioque is literally biblical but okay
There was a time where Christians were great, when Europe conquered other people. Now people preach kindness that bends over backwards to get fucked in the ass by modernity. Fuck modern society.
The Earth is overpopulated with all the effects.
Terrible and vile immorality. This video is wrong.
Let’s forget for a second about right and wrong… How about STD?
Only a man who isn't going to get pregnant, deal with morning sickness, backaches, stretchmarks, labor pains, post partem depression, saggy painful breasts.....no thank you!
so women are just suppose to get pregnant over and over back to back? thats awful and also dangerous to her body and the baby. also planning intercourse only works if you have regular menstrual cycles
Hibiscus_Honey no ! u just cant have sex. EVER . and if u want to.. ur mindset has to be “were procreating”
No, I think that you're supposed to only have sex for the purpose of creating another human being. Sex just for pleasure is part of pleasure seeking, and you're not supposed to go down that path. After living a full life, and always thinking that this was just an insane church trying to control it's benefactors, I think I'm finally getting it: just like enlightened people no longer seek sexual pleasure, but are content and at peace with the consciousness they know themselves to be, I think, in a very badly worded way, the Bible meant the same.
He never said that but okay
There are reasons for family planning?", "Can I afford to have children?", "Is it something I want?" "Is it the right time?" "How many can I afford?" and these are logical questions that couples should asked them selves and you really do not have to have children to complete a marriage. There are economic reason to have children and there are economic reason not to have children. Children are a major responsibility and can be an economic stress. It should not be a religious obligation to procreate.
@@brittonmerrithew7334 That's wrong.
I'm ok with the biblical explanation. The bible says not to "spill your seed" and catholics consider contraception a kind of "spilling". Fair enough. But to me, the rest of this guy's explanation is pure speculation about why God says "spilling" is wrong. Once you do that, you create an argument that can be picked apart and is, in all likelihood, wrong. Consider that other christians don't extract the same interpretation from those verses. God may have struck the man dead for simply not fulfilling his duty to his brother. Additionally, the practice of marrying your brother's widow to raise up seed to that brother is no longer done, even by modern Jews. Why die on the "spilling" hill, but not the "marry your brother's widow" hill.
I'm not saying this to get you to stop believing contraception is wrong. I just want to point out that the most important thing is obedience to God. When we speculate about God's motives behind a commandment , we can be tempted to place the theory above the commandment. When those theories get knocked down, it can degrade faith. Commandments may not have good reasons behind them. "Spilling seed" may have less to do with the act itself, and more the simple act of obedience to whatever god asks of us. In this case, supporting what the pope and other church leaders say is doctrine is important. If they say it's wrong, you simply trust God is guiding them.
“Other Christians don’t extract the same interpretation from those verse” - interesting fact, until 1930, ALL Christian denominations condemned contraception as intrinsically evil. Also, Christians disagree on an array of what certain passages mean (even ones more central to the faith, like baptism and salvation), so I don’t see that as a strong argument to disregard this. I do however see even the church fathers, consistently taught all through history as contraception being considered gravely immoral, and disordered as it frustrates a logical end of the act of sex. Food for thought. God bless,
@@chrisbraymusic I hear you. Again, not telling you to not believe church fathers. I'm actually saying that is the real reason Catholics believe it's wrong. It's not wrong because of the logical argument, it's wrong because the pope said it's wrong. If pope francis said tomorrow "contraception is not immoral" are you going cling to the logical argument or believe the pope?
@@johnmeadow1426 No I see what you are saying and would agree for sure. However, many Christians don’t consider Magisterium authoritative on these matters, so the video focuses primarily on the logical / biblical arguments. (Sort of like how Jesus only references the scriptures to prove the after life to the Sadducees from the TORAH, as they didn’t accept the other scriptures as authoritative..) hope that makes sense. Bless you,
There are reasons for family planning?", "Can I afford to have children?", "Is it something I want?" "Is it the right time?" "How many can I afford?" and these are logical questions that couples should asked them selves and you really do not have to have children to complete a marriage. There are economic reason to have children and there are economic reason not to have children. Children are a major responsibility and can be an economic stress. It should not be a religious obligation to procreate
Ah, the overused Bulimic analogy in order to make contraception look bad by comparison.
In reality, Bulimia is bad because of the real physical and mental harm it does to people, not because of some abstract standard that says that we shouldn't do it simply because we're "going against the nature of things."
Meanwhile that latter argument is all Catholics really have against the general use of contraception on a moral level. In other words they have no concrete, pragmatic ethical arguments.
So no, contraception and Bulimia don't compare at all. What does compare however is contraception and NFP.
Your argument against the Catholic view of contraception is…that it’s moral? So you openly profess to having no morals?
So for Catholics to skate around this full self giving they intentionally teach couples how to cycle intercourse to purposefully prevent pregnancy , what is the difference in this than contraception , if in fact there both used for the same reason ? Second you speak as though the man is using his wife, as though it's a one way street and she is not receiving any satisfaction.
FlippinTobyland great question. The difference is in the case of contraception the couple is intentionally engaging in the act to make babies, while forcibly distorting the act to not make babies... while in the other case of natural family planning, the couple abstains from intercourse when the women is fertile. So, not having sex, and having sex with a barrier, are two different things. Does that clarify for you?
Chris Bray So yes I can agree one is an artificial way of preventing pregnancy and one be looked at as " natural " but there's nothing inherently natural about planning the days in which you can or cannot engage in intercourse with your wife for the purpose of "spilling your seed "so to speak on a infertile egg . The church has to have classes to teach this . For if the churches argument was to let Christ decide how many kids you have by not using any abnormal barriers ( contraception or purposeful intercourse planning ) Or only having sex when wanting children .I would feel they have a much stronger argument . I can see how one can say well if you want kids you have intercourse and if you don't you abstain and that makes it natural but the " planning "and still having intercourse to purposefully forego pregnancy makes it a little obtuse to me , I understand we're likely to agree to disagree on this , but thanks for the response and clarifying the churches teaching on this I appreciate it .
FlippinTobyland I don’t think “planning” is so unnatural. We do it all the time. People go to work, school, get groceries, go to the gas station... they plan their entire day, all while abstaining from sex. Discerning that conceiving a child would irresponsible for grave reasons, is good, and abstaining for such reasons is prudent.
Chris Bray I just believe the moral argument is lost wether someone spills there seed purposefully using contraception as to not have kids or purposefully spilling your seed on a infertile egg both are planned for the same reason, to not procreate .
FlippinTobyland isn’t that logic analogous to saying: everyone is eventually going to die, therefore there is nothing immoral about killing someone? Same end, different means...
If your God says "Go and multiply" is intrinsically good, then he's not an ace when it comes to demographics, economy, ecology or sociobiology in general.
If your parents didn't go and multiply you wouldn't be here commenting.
@@jeremiahcastro9700 And? Your point makes no sense.
@@mrmoth26 One doesn't need to be a rocket scientist or genius to understand that the decline in people having children is directly contributing to the inverse pyramid we have around the world today:
*Old people are living longer*
*Older people are staying in the workforce to support the disabled and elderly.*
*The youth are wasting their youth on themselves.*
This only means that as time goes on there are less fresh workers to replace the older generations before them. Contraception doesn't help this problem but, exacerbates it by indirectly promoting selfishness and a life of ease and pleasure "with no strings attached."
There is an old proverb which says:
*The righteous leave an inheritance for their grandchildren.*
This means truly good people leave behind goof things for future generations to benefit from. Evil and unrighteous people come into this world and only think of themselves and give no forethought to what their children and grandchildren will have to deal with and therefore bring them to ruin.
@@jeremiahcastro9700 People should be forced to do something for economic reasons, slavery was also for economic reasons. Plus, most people still want to have children, some don't and they can't and should not be forced to give birth.
Contraception isn't bad, fanatical Christians are, and Christian "morality" ( if they even have one) is.
@@jeremiahcastro9700 The population of the world is still big, and it still keeps growing. We don't need people pushing out children left and right. At this rate, if people would be having more children, environmental factors, overpopulation and stuff like that would be killing us much faster.
There will still be more workers, by the mid 2050's the population is expected to be 9.8 billion, it keeps growing at a rate od about 83 million annually, there will not be a decline in younger workers. Plus, having children is worse than not having them anyways.
The only problem is that ,,god`` does not exist.