Vintage Zildjian Ride Cymbal Shootout -- 4 different gram weights 1919g 2185g 2346g 2649g
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- A comparison of four typical vintage 60's & 70's 20" Zildjian ride cymbals across different weights with wood-tip sticks, wire brushes, and timpani mallets. Stick test: riding surface, bell, crashability of the edge, recovery time from crash all demonstrated. Brush test: riding surface, bell, edge, flutter stroke, bell tap, lathe scrape.
L-R:
1919g 1960's
2185g 1960's
2346 1960's
2649 1970's
Lighter the better for me, love crash rides!
I'm right with you
I'm watching your videos because I basically wanted to learn a little about these cymbals. I just got a sonor drum set from the sister of a neighbor who died. It has a 20" that weighs 2160 grams, an 18", a 12", and 2 hi hats that are 14". Everything is from 1968 and all have zildjian avedis usa stamped with the 3 dots. The drum are missing a few parts but look beautiful turquois sparkle. A man just offered me $800 from one picture alone and I may just sell them but I hate to do things when I am ignorant about them. Thank you for the couple of videos I watched. I'm a little surprised to be honest.
Wow, did not expect the lightest to be my favourite.
excellent demo- huge overtones on the 26 "
Great comparisons! I have a 20" 1950's 2221g and use it for everything!
Thanks! That's a good weight. I'll bet it's nice and smoky.
Thank you for this. I've just got a 70s Avedis ride and this was very informative indeed.
The lighter the better - this video just proves it.
Cool video and great explanation thank you!
You sir- know your stuff- great video.
Very informative. Thanks for sharing. I'd like to see a shootout on different chinas.
That's a good idea
I like three, then one.
The heavy one has the incredible ability to chant like a monk while being played.
Thanks for this, so different. I still prefer the thinner one, for me sounds better
My personal preference if I can only have one trends towards the 1900-2000g range
Just bought a riveted 2200 early 60s A! Im a jazz player so really lookin forward to that classic sound. 50s might have been closer but I think itll be close enough
Sounds like a sweet find
I really like the 26
So precise, so clear in the mix
I have an A Zildjian, 20" ride that I 've been using for almost 40 years. It's irreplaceable and couldn't be bought for any amount!!
I know exactly how you feel. They all have such personality, and finding the perfect fit is priceless.
Could you do a highlight video of the weirder vintage zildjians that you have? I'm very curious.
I like that idea. I may do just that. Thanks for the suggestion!
I like the 2 heavy ones. Am I weird? Hahaha
I just bought a thin light 22 from the 60s. I hope it turns out well.
Nothing weird about that. Different characters suit different players' needs. Sounds like you value a clean, focused sound over a broad, smoky sound. Good luck with the 22!
My guess is if you like the two heavier rides that Cody showed you probably won't like that thin 22 it will be incredibly Washi and out of control most likely by now you have already had it I'm curious how did it turn out? Do you have a weight on that 22 because the weights are all over the place if it is under 2800 grams then it will be very WashY and seeing it is designated as being thin it will most likely be in the 2400-2700 range.
@@polara01 The 22 was 2750. I also bought a trans stamp 18 that is 1625. To my naked ear I love the crash but the ride is somewhat washy. But I'm not a drummer and I bought those cymbals, a kick, a snare, and a 13" K over Z hat to make recordings.
Fortunately, the 22 sounds great recorded. So it all worked out.
@@albionseed4866 yes, the good thing about Zildjian avedis cymbals is even if they don't sound too good in person that usually record much better than they actually sound in the room which is a good thing. That 18 inch crash is pretty heavy at that weight but it's whatever sounds good to you that's what counts I usually like my crashes to be a little over 1500 grams that's not too heavy and not too thin kind of a sweet spot for an 18 for my taste. I never found a 22 that I was happy with I pretty much used 20in rides and have a couple 24's it original giant beat and I had a 2000 too but I recently sold it those are pretty massive but they have a good tone to them
@@albionseed4866 2750 grams is a good weight for a 22in ride kind of vague midpoint I'm sure Cody would agree but every cymbal is different when it comes to Zildjian avedis they are totally all over the place you could have two identical weights and eras and sound completely different in character sustain and tone
I have a 60s era Adevis 18”
Just found a late 60s 20 inch ride, 2136 grams for $40!
Wow! What a find!
@@CodyWeathers drove an hour and a half for it, but absolutely worth it after trying it out tonight. Thanks for this video!
Have a 60s (heavy), I love the warm tone, huge bell and you get 4 distinctive tones... 2 at the bell, mid cymbal and lip
Are you getting a decent crash at the lip?
@@CodyWeathers decent, but really I love the warm tone and with the bell you don't need a cowbell, hahahaha... They don't make em like they used to!
@@victorglaviano you said it!