Sabian Ride Cymbal Comparison by Troy Wright
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Rides from left to right:
Sabian HHX 22" Omni Ride
Sabian HHX 21" Groove Ride
Sabian HHX 22" Legacy Heavy Ride
*playing starts at 1:10
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by Troy Wright from the Gold Coast, Australia.
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*Filmed, recorded, mixed and video editing done by Troy Wright at Wright Drumming Studio Gold Coast, Australia
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Now this is how you demo cymbals!! :) I hate those dudes on youtube who just demo a ride on the bell or don't even show their dynamics
I'm not spending $300-$500 on a bell. I think they should focus on the cymbal not the bell, turn the background music off and stay away from massive drum rolls and fills. SHOW ME THE CYMBAL.
Memphis drum shop do great demos i think
@@oskarfield8696 Amen... Those guys are musicians that know how to demo each part of the cymbal and hit it appropriately. Reading some of these comments make you wonder why they're drummers to begin with.
The HHX Groove ride crashes soooo well. The Legacy takes the cake overall though
Exactly! :)
Agreed, that Legacy is amazing...
How much is a Legacy going for? I bet it's a good chunk of money!
Wyatt Brady looks like $369.00 USD
+Wyatt Brady I got mine for £190 used :3
I've been wanting to order a new Sabian ride for years instead of my trusty AA Medium, but I get disheartened when the only videos on RUclips are jazz drummers quietly demoing them in a style that doesn't reflect my own. So not only did I narrow it down to the Groove and Legacy Heavy rides, but you made a VIDEO COMPARING THEM and in a REALISTIC, MODERN WAY! So on behalf of all rock drummers, thank you.
What did you end up buying?
Same here
that 21 Groove is heavenly.
The Omni is my newest ride and I'm really growing to like it a lot. It has a nice dryness about it with a quick crash. I'll be using it in my new videos
Troy Wright I have an Omni as well and find myself ignoring all my other cymbals because I love seeing what sounds I can get out of the Omni. Had a jam the other week that was all over the place in terms of genre and the Omni sounded right whether it was a punk blast or some crazy stoner funk. I love that symbal.
Sounds like the middle one with ducktape all over the bottom
Troy Wright Hi Troy, What's the gram on this Sabian HHX 22" Legacy Heavy Ride
??? or caraterística . know your serial number ? thanks , greetings from Argentina :)
+Troy Wright I just got one yesterday. It's the perfect balance of stick definition vs wash and can easily serve as left or right side ride.
the legacy is my favorite because tomas hakke made me love it
DUDE... your day is coming when you will be recognized as one of the best drummers in the world..
Legacy Heavy ride all the way man! Pitch is higher so it cuts through better, although I might actually prefer the Groove ride for more modern jazz stuff. Groove is also the best when crashed, but that's not really the priority with rides imho. Omni is meh.
Francesco Filigoi Totally agree.
Couldn't agree more.
Absolutely! Legacy is the best, the warmest. The Omni has a very good definition and the groove a nice wash, but it opens way too much for me.
Frederico Celentano I bought a groove ride at one point and it was really awesome, but not for any kind of heavy music. Way too washy. I returned it for an AAX 21" Raw Bell Dry Ride that came in a pack.
Michele Perrone
brown nose...
I bought the groove ride to use as my main crash. Works so well and sounds killer
That's how to do a bloody comparison video!! Great work mate. 👍
0:24 Hey check checks 22 inch heavy legacy ride!
I personally feel the Legacy has the nicest bell, the Omni has the best bow, and the Groove ride has the best crash.
Another vote for the legacy ride. Its got the best stick definition and bell and its crashability is definitely heavier than a normal crash cymbal. Which I think is what you want, if your crash riding on your ride cymbal, you wanna feel heaviness of it in the sound, which the legacy ride gives
Yes, yes, yes! More videos like this, Troy! Loved it!
One of the most musical product demos I've ever seen. so good!!!
Legacy takes it, but that Omni is mighty nice too...
Love you lance
Sam Y
Lol .... new episodes coming soon!
awesome
naah, i think these cymbals sound too LanceCampeau-ish
Ich Und Nicht Du no prob alex
I was really digging my new omni ride until I seen this video! The legacy wins!
Same
the omni ride just made me smile. sounds so good!!
Bow: Legacy
Bell: Legacy
Crash: groove
I don't like the omni that well.
same. crash on groove washed nicely tho
Tobias TK totally agree mate
Tobias TK the AAX omni is way better then the HHX imo
Tobias is right
Hey Josh just curious, why do you think the AAX Omni is better than the HHX?
This vídeo is responsible for seeling a plenty Sabian Cymbals for sure. Troy is a endorsed that is making his job on a nice way. Awesome demo.
I can't wait for my 22" HHX Legacy Heavy Ride. Selling my K 21" Brilliant Crash Ride for it.
Killer demo! Great drumming. Awesome sounding Sabian rides. I have the HHX Groove and love it. All three of these sound amazing. My biased vote though is for the HHX Groove.
Legacy for me. Although the crash on the Groove ride is really nice.
The heavy is my fave. Its crash is a little brighter which is something I like because it stands out, something you want on a busy piece, but the groove is nice for a slower paced piece where you want it to meld with the rest. Great selection, thanks for sharing!
This overview was totally awesome!
I would like to see the Raw Bell Dry Ride (HHX) included, but it's great anyway.
Like the Legacy most of the three.
Also - your snare sounds so much better with a coated head on, imho.
Cheers, mate! Keep it up!
It would be great if all cymbal companies did comparison videos like this. It can give an amazing side by side comparison to each individual cymbal line.
Love the fast crash on the Omni.
That Omni for me. In fact, picking one up next week. In my case, I'm primarily a church or recording drummer, and the lower volume, plus the versatility and darker tone really suit what I do. Love that thing. Thanks, Troy, for a great comparison!
Best Comparison video I've seen. Great job staying consistent across each cymbal. Also I've never seen someone so willing to show how a ride cymbal will crash, which is important to me. Keep doing what you're doing. I'd like to see you compare some kits next.
This is such an epic demo, I've looking at cymbal demo's relentlessly for the last two months and this is BY FAR the best demo I have come across! Absolutely nothing wrong with jazz BUT damn everybody demo's cymbals playing jazz! Troy hit these bad bad boys with meaning and plays like he means it.
Anyhow...The Legacy sounds stunning and my fave out of the three AND she's ever so sexy, ooh lala!
HHX Groove Ride you can't beat all around its a great ride cymbal!
Is it just me or omni sounds more like a china cymbal..
I love ur heavy ride !!!
Keep up the good work
I recently got the opportunity to try out the HHX Omni for myself and I actually really like the sound of it! Great addition to the kit
YES! thank you for actually giving a great demonstration on the HHX groove ride everyone else play that beginner bull i needed to hear someone play its potential thank you!
I'd go with the legacy any day of the week.
- the bell reminds me so much of my favourite bell sound, the Zildjian k dark medium 22's bell
- mighty crash sound
-definite, chocolaty bow sound with a pleasant wash that has a distinct note.
If you need a musical ride to treat with heavy hands, that's what I recommend.
Groove ride is fine too, but too mellow for my taste.
Try to avoid the omni when recording.
awesome drumming TROY WRIGHT
What a nice cymbal comparison!
I have a sabian HHX omni ride by myself and it sounds every time amazing. It is such a nice crash sound next to the dry ride sound!
And the HHX legacy ride has a really nice sounding crash sound
I almost think the Groove Ride is just a less shimmery version of the Legacy Heavy Ride. I ended up choosing a Groove Ride over the Legacy Heavy Ride in my personal setup for this reason, but I seriously think I could have been happy with the Legacy. I like the groove ride because it's cleaner sounding and the bell is unlathed, which for me makes really separates its sound from the bow and makes it stand out sonically. Love my Groove Ride. I also tried (and still own) the AA Raw Bell Dry Ride and a HHX Fierce Ride, but none of them had the stick definition/ping, attack, strong bell, and the crashabilty of the Groove Ride for me. To me, good definition on the ping from the bow of a ride is the key element in choosing a ride.
SOOO helpful, thank you!! I've had my eye on the Legacy for a while and the crashability sold me
Thx for amazing demo,
Very detail and show the dynamic
You're the only drummer who could convince me to play Sabian, but just holy damn
I could literally use all of these as just simply crashes! Holy crap!! Especially the groove ride and legacy, but the groove is my personal favorite!!!
I bought a 22" Legacy heavy because of this video. Phenomenal cymbal. I use a 20" HHX Evo ride as crash. I'd love to have a Groove ride but I can't see it dethroning the Legacy heavy.
Bagged a HHX Brilliant Groove ride after watching your video Troy for a juicy £175! Thanks a bunch, you seriously need to make comparison videos for all major cymbals such as the Holy China vs AAXTreme China vs paragon china!
Been using the omni for 2days. It has a really cool sound and can get a little trashy as you move to the outside of the cymbal. It is a quiet ride cymbal though. I do need that volume and I don't want to start cracking ride cymbals, So I will trade up for the artisan 22".
Great video comparing these rides. It helped a lot!!
for me: 1st Groove, 2nd Legacy, 3rd Omni
The Groove and Legacy are almost joint 1st but I like the darker tone of the Groove Ride
Because of you I bought a Sabian HHX 22" Legacy Heavy at the PASIC show in 2017. It was the model they had on display and it was about 30% off what it usually is. I use that at school with my AA 21" Bash ride, both work well for every style from jazz to metal. I also have the 21" AAX Raw Bell Dry Ride which is similar to the groove ride and in my opinion, it is the perfect rock ride sound. I hope to have a studio like yours someday where I can make high quality recordings of all 3 and then make all sorts of records with those 3 rides!!
The HHX Groove ride is going to be my next ride for sure
Great video. I havent seen a comparison video done this way before. It was spot on how a comparison vid should be! My fav was probably the Legacy, but all three of them sounded good enough to be crashes aswell!
Absolutely no contest, the Legacy is amazing!
I’ve never seen a more useful video on RUclips. Amazing job sir
I give the edge to the Legacy on everything except the bell, that goes to the groove ride. Awesome demo, Love to see a similar one on the AAX line
I think the Omni has a nice dry sound and works as an alternate ride, but the Legacy is the best all around.
I was never a fan of the Omni ride. It's too trashy and the decay is too quick, and I like to crash my rides often while also having some stick definition so I prefer my 21" Groove ride. I might end up using my Groove as a crash and get the 22" Legacy as well.
stellar drumming troy, so bloody hard deciding on the circles of joy lol, the snare got my ear open though
I wish they made an omni with a little more body and sustain to the crash. I use the Groove ride and Evo ride on my kit at the same time. I really love your Legacy heavy. It will be my next ride purchase
Hey Mr. Troy, great demonstration, i love the stick definition of the omni, im still in love with my Meinl 20" Byzance dark ride which ive recorded on my channel but definitely need another ride for versatility.
Dude I absolutely love this! I currently have a your Omni but in 24 inch I love the raw bell sound & raw ride as well as the lathed ride pings & dings I get out of them but the crash is a little too washy for me. Currently looking into maybe down sizing to the 21 or 22 of the hhx complex medium or thin ride. It’s a tough choice. This video I just came a crossed and I love how you really crash them! Most people don’t crash them as much & I hate that. Mostly because I truly love a multi sound ride nice cutting bell and ride dings with a wide and open crashabilty/sound is the best thing to me when playing. You have a killer style too man! Thanks for posting
Having been fascinated by the dark side of cymbals now, I feel like the Omni is an excellent blend between brightness and dark sounds. Might be my next "high-end" cymbal choice.
Very good comparison. I'd say either legacy or groove can work as a first ride and omni for a second. Or in other words i think i wouldn't pick omni if it would be my only ride.
Awesome comparison, thanks for the video! I think the Legacy Heavy Ride is my favorite
I really wish you had also posted the gram weights. It really helps. I love the Legacy Heavy and yet it doesn't sound heavy at all to me. Id guess around 2500 gram.
I mean, couldn't everyone agree that all these ride cymbals all sound soooo god and each has their own particular playing environment and situation. Sabians shimmer like no other brand. And yet, I love Zildjians too. Drummers are inherently collectors of cymbals
I’m a Sabian player and they have some amazing rides but I have to admit Zildjian do have the best rides. That Sweet K ride they have?! It’s like the groove ride levelled up with better bell and stick definition. Personally I play a 22 HH Power Bell ride.
Great demo mate and outstanding performance on the kit!
i'm leaning towards that legacy heavy ride out of the three. i really like how it sounds!
This would make an awesome series.
Sabian HHX 22" Legacy Heavy Ride for me!!
thank you troy! love the Sabian Legacy heavy ride 22, I'm going to go buy it now!
This is absolutely wonderful. Thanks Troy.
Great vid! The wobble on the Legacy is sexy AF!
Loving them all expect the omni. That groove ride is delicious. I want one.
amazing that your playing Plini, I seriously thought my itunes opened up and started playing or something haha
The Legacy sounds and looks awesome
If I had to choose one, I'd go for the Legacy 'cause it seems more like an all-terrain type of ride that would fit multiple genres well enough.
Man you did this demo up right...thanks!
Nice to hear Plini in the backround ;)
“No rides were harmed in the making of this video” 😑 @1:45
The Sabian HHX 21" Groove Ride sounds best in my opinion... Wish I had one...
I like the legacy the best the groove is also nice just not the pitch I want in a ride. The omni is cold but I wouldn't really use it as a ride tho.
Legacy for me. Best stick definition, very good ping, super crashability and a nice sounding bell.
i just got an AAX omni, I think it's crash is a little better than the HHX omni, but I love the stick definition of the HHX one
Dude, I think your snare sounds soooo much better with coated heads. The legacy wins for me, although, I think the omni is pretty unique and cool. Must be super fun to play it.
I just came here to watch you play drums dude. BUT, each of those rides are great in their own way. I can see using that Omni ride on a jazz gig or something a little more toned down since its a pretty dry ride. The the Legacy Groove would be perfect for a more "vintage" sound and the Legacy Heavy would be sick for anything that's really got to cut, like a heavier style of music. Or you could just say fuck it and use all of them at the same time. You only live once.
Definitely think the Legacy is the brightest of the Rides. The articulate and crash is superb. The groove comes in second, but I personally prefer the bell it has over the Legacy. The OMNI sounds awesome none the less, although I personally feel it's crossed over into an FX cymbal given its got a sorta sustained splashy sound it produces (from my ears).
Love the video! Keep it up Troy! :)
That omni ride is so nice.. I need it
It's widely known that the HHX Groove is the best crash among the rides. Same to Evolution series and alike. Omni is very dark, while Legacy has bright sound and thus is more versatile.
Amazing comparison video
The HHX 22" Legacy Heavy ride cymbal sounded the best..........my opinion......
That sounds perfect! Those three. That's my set up. Beautiful as crashes. Maybe the lighter legacy though.
This Legacy is a gorgeous cymbal.
Such a good comparison video. Great work mate. 👍🏼
Thanks for making this video. Since I play more of a rock style with distorted guitars, none of these cymbals have enough stick definition or strong bell characteristics to cut through the mix. The qualities you ascribed to them are only true if played in lighter, softer genres. I liked the video though - the cymbals do sound nice. Cheers.
I have the legacy heavy and it's fucking nice and the perfect balance between being dry and crashable
Great demo/cymbal comparison mate!
Everything about this video is EPIC ! - Check out my Sabian ride shootout if you get a chance: ruclips.net/video/Zapw_gkP7No/видео.html
Excellent demo. Thank you so much!
The groove ride and the heavy ride are my favorites out of the three.
legacy!! superb not just ride but crash too! i like it..
Great video sir. Great sound as well
The Groove Ride and Legacy Ride both sound fantastic, I really can't get to grips with the Omni cymbals though, to me they sound like a cheap, cracked cymbal which doesn't crash or ride very well.
I love that crash sound of the omni.
that joker is so unique man.. the crash of it is perfect so that it don't sound too much like an actual crash ..