The New Ford Bronco Raptor Is The Most Insane SUV Ever! But Is it Worth $80K!?

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  • @ryanmorris4406
    @ryanmorris4406 2 года назад +100

    Ford sent me an email to ask if I had interest in getting on the waiting list. I replied yes. They responded with an apology for getting my hopes up. Thanks a lot Ford.

    • @poplaurentiu4148
      @poplaurentiu4148 2 года назад +3

      Rather get for any trim of Bronco in same equal price the full electric F150-e Lightning..

  • @ronmac1832
    @ronmac1832 2 года назад +92

    That $1500/month payment will get old after about 6 months of driving back and forth to work.

    • @krane15
      @krane15 2 года назад +4

      Something people fail to realize when they purchase it. Definitely not worth it with manual seats and those aftermarket stick on fenders. For the price that needs to be part of the design and body colored.
      The TRX was super expensive but it was something special, and had state-of-the-art exterior and interior. It didn't look less like a truck and more like a luxury vehicle. So it was a special environment just to sit in.

    • @Alex0992
      @Alex0992 Год назад +2

      @@krane15 if you're doing what this thing is meant for you want manual seats

    • @transistor281
      @transistor281 Год назад +3

      my rental house on the Golf course is $1800 month lol

    • @davidhey52
      @davidhey52 Год назад +7

      This is not meant for people on close to minimum wages or jobs or rent that cost $1800.

    • @Meekerextreme
      @Meekerextreme Год назад

      Why would that be your only vehicle?

  • @jasonv5790
    @jasonv5790 2 года назад +59

    $80K??? We should be asking if it's worth $125K because we all know it sure isn't gonna be sold for $80k off the lots.

    • @joshuasterling2144
      @joshuasterling2144 2 года назад +8

      Dealers really do ruin it.

    • @Swissk31300BO
      @Swissk31300BO 2 года назад +6

      @@joshuasterling2144 The Dealers in my mind already knew that Ford was going to follow Teslas online only model and cut out dealers. So they’re making all they can while they still exist.
      All it takes is Customer is refusing to pay that price and waiting a year if necessary But we know Americans so that won’t happen

    • @omnignarusist
      @omnignarusist 2 года назад +3

      Yup, Ford dealer markup is ridiculous. If Ford doesn't discipline the dealers (do they even care?) this will be an ongoing disappointment and force me to another brand. I remember a corporate statement addressing this issue, yet nothing has been done to remedy it other than saying EV's will be online order only. Doesn't fix the ICE price gouging...

    • @crazebamm
      @crazebamm 2 года назад +3

      I’m new to cars and know dick about dealerships. Why is 80 not good/where does 125k come from?? Thanks

    • @joshuasterling2144
      @joshuasterling2144 2 года назад +7

      @@crazebamm As of now the Raptor is limited production. Dealers are taking advantage of that demand and putting huge premiums over sticker. This curbs enthusiasm for the product and in the worst case can actually kill an entire product line. Pricing is carefully set for the customer who is interested vs profit necessary for the manufacturer. Because the dealer is the middle man they can screw up that balance and destroy the desire for that product. What was once a great car is no unobtainable.

  • @loosingparts6159
    @loosingparts6159 2 года назад +190

    As long as people keep paying this price it’s gonna stay that way. Absolutely nuts to spend that just to say you have a bronco.

    • @paolo4002
      @paolo4002 2 года назад +18

      People are stupid... Good thing for Ford ;)

    • @unitaper
      @unitaper 2 года назад +10

      @Paolo imagine calling successful people stupid 😂

    • @loosingparts6159
      @loosingparts6159 2 года назад +19

      @@unitaper I think the term is “ more money than brains “ it’s a fad like skinny jeans and bad beer. Most of them will never see dirt ( probably a good thing), engines are failing, yet weekend warriors still paying over retail.

    • @mexifry222
      @mexifry222 2 года назад +4

      There is a whole world of wealthy tech company employees/executives that most people don't really grasp how many there are. They are goons buying these rediculous prices vehicles.

    • @loosingparts6159
      @loosingparts6159 2 года назад +4

      @@mexifry222 yup. Skinny jeans and bad beer. 😂

  • @shanes481
    @shanes481 2 года назад +344

    Remember when we could actually buy vehicles? This thing will sell for 100k plus.

    • @insooleedat1asiandude
      @insooleedat1asiandude 2 года назад +12

      Toyotas r usually in stock lmao

    • @fluffyFaris
      @fluffyFaris 2 года назад +33

      That's why Fords getting rid of car dealerships. I don't know how long it will take but they are going dealership free

    • @Welcometofacsistube
      @Welcometofacsistube 2 года назад

      @@insooleedat1asiandude that because no one wants those outdated pos'

    • @dcar7446
      @dcar7446 2 года назад +9

      Yep Ford is supposedly working on that problem GM as well but I heard you can order it and should be able to get it for MSRP

    • @stevefrench4595
      @stevefrench4595 2 года назад +10

      Those were the days. I love how they release a new one while thousands of people await orders rhat they already put money on

  • @jakes5530
    @jakes5530 2 года назад +339

    If the avg selling price of a 4 door wildtrack is $75k, there’s no way this goes for anything less than $100k… MSRP means nothing now especially with Bronco’s

    • @garysarratt1
      @garysarratt1 2 года назад +59

      I remember when msrp was always a joke, but in the opposite direction.

    • @jakes5530
      @jakes5530 2 года назад +34

      @@garysarratt1 yup literally in 2020 you could get any half ton for $12k under sticker. Dont think we’re going back to that any time soon…

    • @rafalst
      @rafalst 2 года назад +12

      You can check on their website. you can "build" a Bronco Raptor for $70k.

    • @dylan5367
      @dylan5367 2 года назад +32

      You have to order to get MSRP. Dealerships that are marking up over msrp will be disciplined by Ford. Spoke with a dealership that explained the entirety of the situation to me. These greedy dealers will get what's coming to them. Make no mistake.

    • @jakes5530
      @jakes5530 2 года назад +27

      @@dylan5367 most of the time, but dont be deceived, plenty of stories of people ordering custom built online and the dealership where they pick it up STILL marks it up. Literally need a notarized purchase agreement in writing to prevent these slimeballs from screwing you over.

  • @roybatty-
    @roybatty- 2 года назад +62

    Imagine getting on a waiting list, paying a 20k premium and then having the engine fail at 2k miles. 😬

  • @johnbriggs2659
    @johnbriggs2659 2 года назад +119

    Did you do that in one continuous shot? That was more impressive than the vehicle! Great job to both of you!

  • @dakotareynoldsakafloridama2723
    @dakotareynoldsakafloridama2723 2 года назад +173

    It's a 55 k vehicle (like most premium vehicles) with a 40k mark up based on the insane vehicles market and we should be fighting the industry. These prices are stupid

    • @2011blueman
      @2011blueman 2 года назад +8

      The normal Bronco badlands is $55k.

    • @dakotareynoldsakafloridama2723
      @dakotareynoldsakafloridama2723 2 года назад +28

      @@2011blueman correct which is over priced

    • @powerboatguy2308
      @powerboatguy2308 2 года назад +12

      The prices are about to start rapidly dropping as inventory is starting to surge with auto part suppliers and gas prices surging. Yes, it is over priced. The Premium trim of the Bronco is really a mid 40s to 50k vehicle. People that bought these cars in a peak market are going to start hating themselves.

    • @zephead843
      @zephead843 2 года назад +16

      The stupidity of the average American consumer figures heavily into an automakers business plan.

    • @VictorDeveze
      @VictorDeveze 2 года назад +10

      @@dakotareynoldsakafloridama2723 it’s not overpriced, it’s called the free market, supply and demand my friend. I thought Americans loved capitalism… well, this is it

  • @Libertarian_Neighbor
    @Libertarian_Neighbor 2 года назад +66

    In 110° heat, and after 2 cups of coffee, Tommy becomes Doug Demuro.

    • @billredding2000
      @billredding2000 2 года назад +3

      "...Tommy becomes Doug Demuro." -- Libertarian Neighbor
      "THIS, is the new Ford Bronco Raptor..." 😄
      -- BR

    • @DJ_BROBOT
      @DJ_BROBOT 2 года назад +5

      ...were gunna look at its quirks and feeeeetures and givit a Doug-score

    • @jamesengland7461
      @jamesengland7461 2 года назад +1

      THIIIIIIIS!

  • @mowcowbell
    @mowcowbell 2 года назад +11

    No 5.0L V8 under the hood? Has Ford missed the fact that Jeep has a 392 V8 Wrangler?

    • @gogofastful
      @gogofastful 2 года назад +2

      And Ford has years of pushing turbo v6's, even in their GT.

    • @hottaters9124
      @hottaters9124 2 года назад +2

      @@gogofastful unreliably

  • @wudznutt6732
    @wudznutt6732 2 года назад +32

    The extra flares look fine and in the mud you absolutely have to have them if you don't want to be covered in mud. If they had extended the flare as part of the fender, that would look goofier not to mention if it took a hit. I suspect that the flares can be removed if necessary.

    • @kevinhood9781
      @kevinhood9781 2 года назад +4

      Who will spend 80-90000 on a new vehicle to drive it in the mud and rocks and make it dirty. Most ppl that buy this wont go offroad

    • @EvilSlayer398
      @EvilSlayer398 2 года назад +3

      The flares should be removable as ford made the actual side panels easily removable in the normal bronco models incase you took damage on a trail. You can easily pop them off on the inside of the hood

    • @K03sport
      @K03sport 2 года назад +2

      @@kevinhood9781 ...you ask "who" would drive their $80k+ vehicle through the mud...well, that is Land Rover's entire marketing campaign. They want you to buy their $80k vehicle and drive it through the mud (thinking it won't leave you stranded). It is literally in EVERY Land Rover Commercial and print ad. Without mud, rocks, sand, and streams, Land Rover would not exist (more or less).

    • @calebpeters6267
      @calebpeters6267 Год назад +3

      @@kevinhood9781 I would, but unfortunately it's not in my budget. I will be taking my badlands mudding once it arrives.

  • @speharjason
    @speharjason 2 года назад +32

    Sounds like a kids toy when you Rev it up. I miss all the V8’s

    • @MrRjezonie
      @MrRjezonie 2 года назад +3

      That’s why I have a Jeep 392! Not a fan of the V6s.

    • @Saabkenny04
      @Saabkenny04 2 года назад

      A V-8 motor wouldn’t fit for some reason

    • @daryenmirabal2656
      @daryenmirabal2656 2 года назад

      @@Saabkenny04 unfortunately the v8 didn't even cross fords mind. Not even with a special order request ..

    • @jizzyjake6783
      @jizzyjake6783 2 года назад +1

      @@MrRjezonie now that's a nice powertrain. Love my 392.

  • @sludged08
    @sludged08 2 года назад +136

    That color... Oooff so good... Also I think I am glad they did fenders that way as opposed to the body colour wider fender, that fender extension will do a great job of protecting the body coloured fender out on the trail and be much easier to replace.

    • @robertprydon640
      @robertprydon640 2 года назад +4

      Good point! Hopefully cheap sacrificial fender extensions!

    • @I_like_turtles_67
      @I_like_turtles_67 2 года назад +4

      Let's be honest though.
      99% of the people who buy this. Won't take it off road.
      I take a stock Tundra in more places than these capable vehicles will go.
      Just like the raptors. Mall crawlers.

    • @omarperozo8464
      @omarperozo8464 2 года назад

      @@robertprydon640 yes

    • @omarperozo8464
      @omarperozo8464 2 года назад

      hi

    • @wossbros1
      @wossbros1 2 года назад +3

      I have big bend in a 2dr thats green luv it

  • @MasterYota1
    @MasterYota1 2 года назад +75

    They have a massive engine issue. The motors have been blowing left and right.

    • @stacksmasher
      @stacksmasher 2 года назад +12

      You should see the Ford forums.... its a bigger problem than I thought. I canceled my order, maybe next time.

    • @Str8Ripper1776
      @Str8Ripper1776 2 года назад +4

      New design problem or what? The 2.7s in the f150 and mustang hold up fairly well

    • @dougfredricks2017
      @dougfredricks2017 2 года назад +5

      Valve drops in especially the 27L

    • @mjz5254
      @mjz5254 2 года назад +2

      @@stacksmasher Can you share the links? Thanks!

    • @arcanum3882
      @arcanum3882 2 года назад +2

      @@dougfredricks2017 *2.7

  • @cachemoola2042
    @cachemoola2042 2 года назад +4

    Can’t wait till the new Bronco OJ edition comes out.

  • @broncoazvideo
    @broncoazvideo 2 года назад +50

    The Bronco Raptor is not worth the price to me. I’m happy with my Badlands 2 door manual with high package for $47K. I received a “golden ticket” from Ford to order a Bronco Raptor, but I declined. Buying it for resale was a thought, but if the economy tanks between ordering and delivery I didn’t want to get stuck with it at $80K.

  • @minrathejunglist
    @minrathejunglist 2 года назад +72

    It's funny because I've learned that breaking stuff goes hand in hand with off roading. I would be way too scared to break something on an $80k truck. That being said the only people that are taking these offroad in the conditions it's built for are people who can throw that kind of money around. Which you know, more power to them!

    • @Dwealdric
      @Dwealdric 2 года назад +4

      Well said. I completely agree.

    • @bigslacker666
      @bigslacker666 2 года назад +7

      I wheel my F150 Raptor pretty hard, break something and it's a good excuse to upgrade. ;)
      Even though I can afford it, there are times when I think, "Why don't I just buy a side by side for this?" :D

    • @minrathejunglist
      @minrathejunglist 2 года назад +1

      @@bigslacker666 I've been trying to look out for an old Toyota pick up/hilux to turn into a rock crawler. After nearly flipping my 4Runner I had to rethink what I was doing. This is a lot of talk coming from a 30 something year old dude who's only recently gotten into off roading. But I don't see anything wrong with dreaming big :D

    • @TangoTangoAlpha
      @TangoTangoAlpha 2 года назад +10

      Eh, I’d hedge on the idea they don’t have the money to throw around. Very likely there are substantial and lengthy loans involved. It’s an American past time to live at or above means.

    • @minrathejunglist
      @minrathejunglist 2 года назад +1

      @@TangoTangoAlpha I completely agree.

  • @TRDGE
    @TRDGE Год назад +2

    I agree on the styling. Imo that's why the DR and the Bronco R looks so badass. The fender was brought out with little flares instead of the other way around. It sucks how everything is so expensive these days but the vehicles themselves are awesome.

  • @WFO.
    @WFO. 2 года назад +18

    Tommy, Your reviews and down to earth and real. Keep up the good work.

  • @stevesmith2770
    @stevesmith2770 2 года назад +46

    Should've just shoe-horned the 5.0 in the engine bay and kept it naturally aspirated. Otherwise, it's pretty dang awesome.

    • @damilolaakanni
      @damilolaakanni 2 года назад +2

      Especially since the 5.0 doesn't make significantly less power than this 3.0 TT V6. At least the one in the F-150.

    • @RealcarTV
      @RealcarTV 2 года назад +4

      @@damilolaakanni This is inaccurate....its extremely close compared to the V8 in the F150 (395/400), and less than 5.0 put into past Mustangs 460/480.

    • @damilolaakanni
      @damilolaakanni 2 года назад +12

      @@RealcarTV which is why I said the 3.0 TT V6 doesn't make much more power than the F-150's 5.0 V8.

    • @nm-qt2hb
      @nm-qt2hb 2 года назад +3

      The 5.0 has no where near the torque band of the 3.0 TT. The 3.0 is a much better choice.

    • @damilolaakanni
      @damilolaakanni 2 года назад +10

      @@nm-qt2hb true, but most people want the V8 for the sound and predicted reliability. They believe the V8 will sound better and that it will last much longer because it doesn't have turbos.

  • @brianowens1002
    @brianowens1002 2 года назад +14

    It’s no 392 rubi…that’s for sure

    • @hotrod7603
      @hotrod7603 2 года назад +4

      It's a raptor not a garbage jeep , for real no comparison.

    • @RealcarTV
      @RealcarTV 2 года назад +6

      @@hotrod7603 I know, got to love the hairdryers and the independent front suspension instead of that V8 and solid axel...said no one ever.

    • @Welcometofacsistube
      @Welcometofacsistube 2 года назад

      @@hotrod7603 please. You would know articulation if it hit you on the head.
      Death wobble 🥱

    • @trailboss7504
      @trailboss7504 2 года назад +1

      The 392 is still a Dumpster jeep at the end of day , don't disrespect Braptor comparing it with some cheap pos.

    • @brianowens1002
      @brianowens1002 2 года назад +4

      @@trailboss7504 bahahaha what ever you say 😂

  • @landscapingspecialist
    @landscapingspecialist 2 года назад +3

    F-450 and 550’s had aux switches back turn of the century. But glad to see them being used here as well. Its a useful option in many cases.

    • @jlr3636
      @jlr3636 10 месяцев назад

      My 2006 F-250 Super Duty has factory Aux switches

  • @jg2611
    @jg2611 2 года назад +6

    For the dealer or manufacturer - YES
    we are long overdue for a hard recession. Things have been beyond ridiculous.

  • @Mr.Worf63
    @Mr.Worf63 2 года назад +6

    $100,000 🇨🇦 for that ?! Premium Fuel , Synthetic Oil and a Mortgage payment on the Bronco. Excellent gauge cluster .

  • @MakingMonroe
    @MakingMonroe 2 года назад +19

    That exhaust note doesn’t compare to a Jeep 392 😂

    • @Cm-ou3ml
      @Cm-ou3ml 2 года назад

      90k for a 392

    • @donaldliverance2597
      @donaldliverance2597 2 года назад

      @@Cm-ou3ml 10k gets you a lot of extra comparison wise

    • @ScentedCentaur
      @ScentedCentaur 2 года назад

      @@donaldliverance2597 80k = Street legal baha truck
      90k = V8 Jeep
      What??

    • @MrStaybrown
      @MrStaybrown 2 года назад

      🤣🤣👍
      I'm sure the speakers give out a V8 growl inside tho!

  • @Hambone905
    @Hambone905 Год назад

    Great video. Thank you!

  • @tjsmith7700
    @tjsmith7700 2 года назад +1

    Great job with this review, well done.

  • @vancitycoaster
    @vancitycoaster 2 года назад +22

    I’m 50/50 with those flares
    I saw the broncos iconic straight sides when you started and it all made sense. The flares look different for sure but it needs the flat sides to be a bronco I guess.

    • @Matteo-xm6xo
      @Matteo-xm6xo 2 года назад +4

      Flares are crap.the original flares were 50/50 lol

    • @youtubeaccount9058
      @youtubeaccount9058 2 года назад +1

      Plus now you have a wide vehicle yet short on interior space.

    • @providentpathfinders219
      @providentpathfinders219 2 года назад

      wait till you see the super bronco raptor. It has 5 foot wide wheel flares it also has flaps so you can generate some lift and increase the gas mileage to 17mpg. I digress, i’d nut all over this raptor bronco. thank goodness for the wash out interior

    • @MM-cs2rt
      @MM-cs2rt 2 года назад +2

      Those flares are horrible.

    • @abz5485
      @abz5485 2 года назад

      The flares are required for passing most if not all state inspections. They will most likely be removed or modified that’s why ford didn’t make it part of the body

  • @spiritsofthedistilledkind3633
    @spiritsofthedistilledkind3633 2 года назад +61

    Sounds pretty good. Still would like a V8 option though.

    • @WhateverItTakesLIVE
      @WhateverItTakesLIVE 2 года назад +7

      needs a v8 v6 and 4 sucks

    • @moistbrain9297
      @moistbrain9297 2 года назад +3

      I think if they gave it a coyote engine it'd manage to get single digit mpg ratings though

    • @JacesOwnWorld
      @JacesOwnWorld 2 года назад +7

      For $80k, your are 100% right. There is zero reason for a 4cyl American made vehicle to cost $80k+. Zero

    • @celsalazar77
      @celsalazar77 2 года назад

      The bronco raptor R coming soon

    • @bradforrester2417
      @bradforrester2417 2 года назад +4

      I can't see this getting a V8 ever. Because it's a) all assembled in the same plant with the rest of the V6 ECOBOOST line-up, and b) electrification is coming everywhere. A V6 Ford Performance POWERBOOST/Hybrid however... imagine instantaneous electric torque on the hole shot or for rock crawling???

  • @A.ChristopherJohnson
    @A.ChristopherJohnson 10 месяцев назад

    Great review Jr. !

  • @bigt4135
    @bigt4135 2 года назад +3

    Does the roof still sound like it’s making popcorn?

  • @fishslayer1994
    @fishslayer1994 2 года назад +9

    the fenders looked bad from when i first saw them but seeing them up close it ain’t the worst definitely gives it a mean stance definitely will turn heads!

  • @somecarnet
    @somecarnet 2 года назад +17

    The question a lot of these videos ask is "Is it worth it?" And the questions are never directly answered. Instead, they say "it is the top of the line vehicle in this lineup" or "the prices do compare with the competition." The real answer is "NO! These prices are not worth it." Please, journalists, start calling out these auto manufacturers and their insanely marked up prices.

    • @JogBird
      @JogBird 2 года назад +7

      they cant call out manufacturers because they would be cut off from early access to vehicles, which they produce content from.. in a way, they are a part of the marketing team

    • @mini2nut67
      @mini2nut67 2 года назад +2

      They ARE the marketing team.

  • @Havaseet2
    @Havaseet2 2 года назад +1

    I remember when 80 or100k would buy an elite supercar a nice speedboat, or a 3 bedroom block house. Now, you get a truck, high insurance payments and the "privilege" of driving basically a common, upgraded, SUV or truck.

  • @Davido50
    @Davido50 2 года назад +2

    My dream Bronco for sure! Tho i will be getting a 2nd edition Raptor 4dr w/Gen2 - 2.7L GTDI & 37in tires! Can't wait. Great job Ford!! 👍👍

  • @ImYoutubing247
    @ImYoutubing247 2 года назад +14

    I couldn’t tell the difference between quite and “loud” mode.

    • @richardnavratil9661
      @richardnavratil9661 2 года назад

      I think it started in normal, then went to quiet and then baja/loud. A prompt on the screen/video to distinguish would've been nice.
      My Ford has also active exhaust, unless it's evening (when I have automatic quiet mode disabled), that's how it be.

    • @mini2nut67
      @mini2nut67 2 года назад

      Videos do a terrible job at replicating exhaust sound. Must be heard in person.

    • @chuckadams9131
      @chuckadams9131 2 года назад +2

      It's because Tommy doesn't understand audio anymore than he understands cars.

    • @richardnavratil9661
      @richardnavratil9661 2 года назад

      @@chuckadams9131 That seems harsh...

  • @-007-2
    @-007-2 2 года назад +11

    2:33. that's a messy engine bay. way to keep it clean Ford 🤦‍♂️

    • @MM-cs2rt
      @MM-cs2rt 2 года назад +3

      All the eco boosts look like rats nests

    • @MrStaybrown
      @MrStaybrown 2 года назад

      Nightmare

  • @rexarei4953
    @rexarei4953 2 года назад +2

    Tommy: “The most over the top, ridiculous 4 wheel drive”
    Trackhawk: “Am I a joke to you?”

  • @duneattack
    @duneattack 2 года назад

    Thank you! another fine video!

  • @1guyin10
    @1guyin10 2 года назад +13

    Overall it's a great package. I just wish everything didn't cost a house payment these days.

    • @JH-mt3pp
      @JH-mt3pp 2 года назад

      House payment ? $80,000 is more than we paid for our house......that was in 1982 though lol.

  • @powerboatguy2308
    @powerboatguy2308 2 года назад +4

    Pay attention to inventory reports folks. You do not want to go out and pay 80 to 90k for a freaking V6 Bronco as inventory is starting to build up in auto parts suppliers signaling a recession. In 6 months you are going to see manufacturers pushing huge rebates to move these things off the lot.

    • @mini2nut67
      @mini2nut67 2 года назад +1

      1.5 years away from getting back to near normal

  • @jessem.5867
    @jessem.5867 Год назад

    Just got mine yesterday! I’m in love 😍

  • @jasonpitts8395
    @jasonpitts8395 2 года назад +4

    No way that sells for $80K. Last week I saw a used Bronco on a lot for $76K. The dealers are asking way over MSRP because they overpaid for used vehicles when they couldn't get new ones. Now they have to charge YOU more for a new one to make up for the loss they will take on the used ones. Glad I bought new before the madness started.

    • @chrisramsey3603
      @chrisramsey3603 Год назад +1

      Saw one here low low miles 67,000 and thats still way too high.

  • @justinmatthewl
    @justinmatthewl 2 года назад +45

    Seems like the shocks would have been something to talk about

    • @TFLcar
      @TFLcar  2 года назад +11

      Tomorrow is the full interview with the engineer

    • @jameslindsay479
      @jameslindsay479 4 месяца назад

      Agreed. The suspension and other performance aspects are what justify the Raptor pricing

  • @chuckadams9131
    @chuckadams9131 2 года назад +54

    Can't get worked up about any car whose combined MPG is 15mpg. Especially one that people take out of town for long adventure trips. Between the high factory sticker, the dealers raping you for more and the cost to drive, this thing is DOA for me.

    • @mpeugeot
      @mpeugeot 2 года назад +6

      Granted, I don't have the Raptor variant, but my 2.7 OBX is averaging around 21-23 MPG currently (combined highway and city).

    • @skoolynugenator1802
      @skoolynugenator1802 2 года назад +9

      If you can afford an 80-100k vehicle, you probably don’t care about mpg.

    • @MM-cs2rt
      @MM-cs2rt 2 года назад +4

      Get a Prius.

    • @chuckadams9131
      @chuckadams9131 2 года назад

      @@MM-cs2rt Nah. Maybe a Rivian. You know, cause I have choices.

    • @MM-cs2rt
      @MM-cs2rt 2 года назад +2

      @@chuckadams9131 sure you do.

  • @michaelwdagle7410
    @michaelwdagle7410 2 года назад +4

    For 80 grand it should have a optional V8.

  • @Roosternurse
    @Roosternurse 2 года назад +11

    Wonder how much over MSRP this one will run and how long before the engine blows and recalls start?

    • @gmarte12
      @gmarte12 2 года назад +1

      engine recalls already started

    • @smithsfan425
      @smithsfan425 2 года назад +1

      2000 miles into the break (down) in period

  • @GATORADDAM
    @GATORADDAM 2 года назад +13

    Great review as always.....
    I'm anything but a Ford fan. But this thing is pretty cool. 80 G?
    It ain't that cool!

  • @dmegahan
    @dmegahan 2 года назад +18

    At $70k it almost sounds like a bargain. Everything is so damn expensive today

    • @2011blueman
      @2011blueman 2 года назад +8

      Most buyers are going to be paying a LOT more than $70k-$80k. Even if you were lucky enough to have your reservation converted to a raptor allocation, the dealership you're at is going to ask 20-30K over MSRP in order for you to take delivery.

    • @DaRevrin
      @DaRevrin 2 года назад +3

      0% chance they sell these at 70k

  • @270billjones
    @270billjones 2 года назад

    Nice review Tommy!

  • @RE-ue6oz
    @RE-ue6oz 2 года назад +1

    Those fender flares are similar to what a lot of guys bolt on for desert runner truck builds down here. Local to the area in Riverside county.

  • @northerntoyota7584
    @northerntoyota7584 2 года назад +14

    That green is nice. That price up here in Canada will be over 100k. Crazy. I’m with Tommy, those flares look very homemade. Cheap

    • @zgdafzgdaf4264
      @zgdafzgdaf4264 2 года назад

      Ford probably has difficulty getting suppliers to produce the flares because of supply chain issues and probably that’s the reason they look homage.. because they are.

    • @Qmocean
      @Qmocean 2 года назад

      I think the Canadian MSRP will be over $100K. The stealership mark-up will have these going for $120K minimum.

    • @rajanrairealty8979
      @rajanrairealty8979 2 года назад

      ca currency is worthless to usa like 70 percent

  • @tman1129
    @tman1129 2 года назад +16

    I think the fenders and flares are they way they are for remove-ability... great vehicles were lucky to have these days...

  • @ragdolltrucking
    @ragdolltrucking 2 года назад +4

    I saw a bronco about a month ago with big tires on it, I believe it was the sasquatch one, it was in a parking lot with the front wheels doing this / \, owner went over a pot hole at 60 km/h and broke a tie rod, he only owned it for like a week 😂

    • @JamesThomas-dn6ee
      @JamesThomas-dn6ee 2 года назад +1

      Sure you did buddy

    • @ragdolltrucking
      @ragdolltrucking 2 года назад +4

      @@JamesThomas-dn6ee i drive a tow truck, im the one that towed it “buddy”, my company sees about one bronco a month with a broken tie rod and it’s NEVER from an accident 🤣

    • @MrStaybrown
      @MrStaybrown 2 года назад

      FORD TOUGH to keep on the road.

    • @JamesThomas-dn6ee
      @JamesThomas-dn6ee 2 года назад

      @@ragdolltrucking lol sure buddy I believe you here is the flaw in your story you first said you saw it now you are saying you towed it lol. Also there is no wide spread tie rod issues for the bronco the major issue is the 2.7 engine now if you would have said you towed one with a blown 2.7 I would have believed you.

    • @ragdolltrucking
      @ragdolltrucking 2 года назад

      @@JamesThomas-dn6ee i towed the bronco from united blvd at petro Canada in Vancouver, i work for Coquitlam towing, United blvd is an industrial area littered with potholes, he was able to get it off the road by driving slowly but every time he tried to reverse the wheels did this /\, your just some random dude on the internet, it literally has no effect on my life if you believe it or not, but i do think its funny because i stood there talking to the guy for like 20 minutes pointing at and talking about his broken tie rod, get a job driving a tow truck and you’ll see it happen with your own eyes “buddy” 😂😂😂

  • @twstrchasr
    @twstrchasr 2 года назад

    I completely agree about the flairs. That was the first thing I noticed even before I heard your comments.

  • @markphillips2648
    @markphillips2648 2 года назад +4

    Open the hood to any Japanese,Korean suv and admire the engineering that goes into getting rid of the spaghetti bowl of tubing, wiring and smog devices and ask yourself where do you add the spaghetti sauce. No every element of a vehicle has to check all boxes. I could not imagine being three hours off of pavement and have something in that hood come loose. Just saying.

  • @ROFLWAFFLE1911
    @ROFLWAFFLE1911 2 года назад +5

    There’s going to be a lot of people criminally upside down in vehicles from the last 2-3 years.

    • @13christbane
      @13christbane 2 года назад +2

      and people who leased two years before covid are buying out the lease and making 10k selling.

    • @privas8751
      @privas8751 2 года назад

      If they pay more than MSRP. There are plenty of Bronco Raptor future owners who have said their dealer is honoring MSRP. And a lot of reg Bronco owners doing the same. Raptors hold value EXTREMELY well. But yes, If you get wronged by your dealer, yes, this is very very possible.

  • @actontreadway1168
    @actontreadway1168 2 года назад +2

    Been waiting for this; wasn’t sure whether it was going to happen. Doesn’t look like a raptor; it looks like a shop built monster! They probably did the flares because, while it’s not too hard to design expanded front fenders, it is VERY difficult to do it in the back, especially when your customers might take the doors off. It would look weird like that. But yeah, at least it has the same exhaust note…;) Awesome truck, though.

  • @OutlawAlaskan
    @OutlawAlaskan 2 года назад +2

    I saw 302 on the valve cover and thought "man a 5.0, that's exactly what the people want!" I was wrong. Why not drop a V8 in the Bronco like Jeep did with the Wrangler?

  • @dgw4049
    @dgw4049 2 года назад +6

    The fender flares are just too much for me.

    • @79thump8
      @79thump8 2 года назад +2

      Agreed. They look like a tasteless aftermarket mod.

  • @byroncoffelt7023
    @byroncoffelt7023 2 года назад +7

    Not a fan of the monster fender flares but the darker colors like eruption green definitely mixes better with the flares, can't wait to see the performance videos 👍

  • @georgef1176
    @georgef1176 2 года назад +2

    The real question is does this new bronco have the motor issue of the regular ones?? For 80k Let’s hope not.. I do love it! Ford put the 5.2 or 5.0 v8 inside it!!!

    • @lrevz9672
      @lrevz9672 2 года назад

      Yea i had a 85 bronco 2... an my main concern was its lack of power. It just needs a good v8 in there. Nothing major 300hp v8 with a great exhaust...an without all this ecoboost crap the price woukd be 35-45k. Loaded

  • @AwkwardYet
    @AwkwardYet 2 года назад

    seen one in person not too long ago, its got something special about it

  • @alsjeep
    @alsjeep 2 года назад +4

    Frustrated buyers are already waiting months for a regular Bronco. Imagine the wait time for a Raptor!

  • @ceecee2485
    @ceecee2485 2 года назад +3

    Thanks for the walkaround. I wasn't interested in the "raptor" even if it was an option before I got my 2021 Badlands but I am really happy with my purchase now. I thought the fender flares were the reason for the extra width but I see they fattened up the whole thing. That wall off the grille is surprisingly big. Those rear lights are pretty terrible, too. My only 2021 regret is not having the option to get that green. It does look good. Looking forward to more videos.

    • @mini2nut67
      @mini2nut67 2 года назад

      I have an order for a 2023 Braptor at MSRP. It's a great value when consider everything that's included as standard equipment.

    • @lolol4513
      @lolol4513 2 года назад

      Poor jealous man. Sorry you couldn’t afford or get your hands on one! Such a silly comment.

  • @jpmcnown1
    @jpmcnown1 2 года назад +2

    $80k means $120k+ once our beloved dealerships get a hold of it.

  • @eliyahyisrael4189
    @eliyahyisrael4189 2 года назад +2

    Meanwhile...stock bronco owners are experiencing catastrophic engine faliure, among other problems after driving only 1500-2500 miles...ALOT of these new cars should be sold as "husks", so whoever buy them can put in whatever Power plant they want.

    • @robertmisiuk7137
      @robertmisiuk7137 2 года назад

      I'm pretty sure someone on RUclips is doing an LS swap already.

  • @wazgoodjj
    @wazgoodjj 2 года назад +6

    With gas prices close to $8 here in L.A, this might not be the best time for this truck to come out.

    • @jcollins1305
      @jcollins1305 2 года назад +1

      “I did that!l

    • @J.Young808
      @J.Young808 2 года назад

      Yeah did you catch the range when they were showing the digital dash? It looked almost full and only had 271 miles to empty. My display usually shows 533-633 miles.

    • @Blvck0ne
      @Blvck0ne 2 года назад +3

      People wanting this vehicle aren’t tripping over fuel prices.

  • @werdcrime
    @werdcrime 2 года назад +11

    I passed on the Raptor opportunity: It's too wide and those flares are like clown shoes. I am jealous of the towing increase and the dash display, which actually looks slick and modern unlike the already dated looking one on the regular Bronco, but I still think I made the right move. If I spent a lot of time out on wide desert trails my feelings might change, but for narrower stuff in the mountains here it just didn't make sense, especially for the not insignificant cost increase.

    • @cunawarit
      @cunawarit 2 года назад +3

      You made the right choice, I think the Raptor is awesome is you want to mostly off-road in the desert. For everyone else that narrower one is the best choice.

    • @zachrwagner
      @zachrwagner Год назад

      Been debating on saving for one of these for AZ desert off roading. Flares would actually come in handy with all the sand/mud. Vehicles like this are great for the terrain in my area

  • @renenowicki
    @renenowicki 2 года назад

    Saw one of these in MI last month. It’s a beast. Tires looked military spec.

  • @iii7878
    @iii7878 2 года назад +14

    I only watched until I heard what was under the hood. Is the Bronco Raptor worth 80k? Not without a V8 in my opinion. It's probably capable and can go a lot of places off road but I'm happy with the 5.0 in my F150 which has 37s which was a lot less being a 2014. I'm not unwilling to drive a v6 but I'm not willing to pay over 50k for a vehicle with a v6 in it.

    • @twongreen9968
      @twongreen9968 2 года назад

      I agree think u could pick me up I know gas killing u but I’ll give u gas money and we can ride and beat tha living shit out of ram 1500

    • @ShUisREAL
      @ShUisREAL 2 года назад

      P R E A C H. I agree

    • @robertmisiuk7137
      @robertmisiuk7137 2 года назад

      But it has a baby engine with a turbo to move that weight.

    • @iii7878
      @iii7878 2 года назад +1

      @@robertmisiuk7137 I like driving vehicles until the wheels fall off. Turbos put more stress on the engine long term and when you tow generally you get about the same mpg. Also it's not that light at between 4300 lbs to 5300 lbs for the Bronco, my single cab with the 5.0 is around 5000. I'd still rather have a naturally aspirated v8 over a turbo v6 and I'd rather have a naturally aspirated v6 over a turbo i4 .
      Plus nothing beats the sound of the coyote 5.0 with long tube headers. It doesn't matter how much horsepower, boost, or exhaust mods a v6 has its not going to sound as good as a v8. 99% of the time I'm cruising at highway speeds, the extra 20-30 hp or whatever of the v6 at peak horsepower doesn't doesn't do much for me most of the time.

    • @robertmisiuk7137
      @robertmisiuk7137 2 года назад +1

      @@iii7878 Just so you know I 100% agree. I was being sarcastic. Turbos are fine for light cars, but trucks should never have them unless they are diesel.

  • @AHungryHunky
    @AHungryHunky 2 года назад +4

    If i was given one for free I'd probably turn around and sell it and buy either a Wrangler or regular Bronco, soft top with some nicer features and light, road friendly AT tires. I'm not really into the whole "barely fits in a normal lane and gets MPGs that where shameful in the 2000s" scene but wouldn't mind a convertible SUV that can handle itself when needed.

  • @reho7387
    @reho7387 2 года назад +7

    As with you, I would forego a lot of the non-functional options to try and keep the cost more reasonable. Other than that, it is a nice vehicle and if I were in the market for an off road vehicle, this would be it.

  • @TheHomeExpert5
    @TheHomeExpert5 2 года назад +1

    Where did you get the body kit for that 1995 Ford Escape?

  • @JamesKehoeDO
    @JamesKehoeDO 2 года назад +1

    I have a Wrangler 392 and in my opinion no comparison. I also have a Explorer Platinum (same engine different tune). The Wrangler with a naturally aspirated V8 is much better the EcoBoost engines are just not reliable enough (even with early Hemi issues). The exhaust sound reminds me of a tricked-out Honda Civic (I hope it is just your recording). I now realize why Jeep didn't go with 35/37 tires stock. Having to widen the wheelbase, rear lights etc definitely will affect offroading. The Fender extensions can be removed so no big deal, would look worse with widened flares that can't be removed. Looks like Jeep went with letting the customer make mods rather than alter performance to meet standards. The Jeep suspension didn't need many upgrades for the 392, offroaders just wanted more power particularly the low end for rock crawling. The Bronco looks awesome and I do want one but will be badlands with sasquatch.

  • @joshtraughber8931
    @joshtraughber8931 2 года назад +3

    Can’t wait to see the Raptor compared to the jeep w/392!

  • @bpeterson54134
    @bpeterson54134 2 года назад +8

    80k plus dealer markup of 40k. Sounds like a great deal. ☹️

  • @Natures_Symmetry
    @Natures_Symmetry 2 года назад +1

    Richard Hammond would love this thing. Just because of the over head switches haha.

  • @joonyoung11
    @joonyoung11 2 года назад

    Thank you for the review when it’s 100 degree out there

  • @deverick4247
    @deverick4247 2 года назад +20

    I promise besides the Ford GT, Ford vehicles has some the sloppiest engine bays I’ve ever seen

    • @tcoppraptor
      @tcoppraptor 2 года назад +2

      The Mustang bays aren’t bad either, but yes, the rest I agree with.

    • @deverick4247
      @deverick4247 2 года назад

      @@tcoppraptor I agree with you on that.

    • @richardnavratil9661
      @richardnavratil9661 2 года назад +1

      @@deverick4247 Yup got a 2019 Bullitt, it's a good blend of exposed and neat-ish. I think they claim "easier servicability," but at this point yes it looks sloppy. However, lot of room to work with and mainly no stupid plastic covers is a bonus.

    • @ronmac1832
      @ronmac1832 2 года назад

      True! BMW has some nice looking engine bays, but are disasters to work on. Wondering if Ford doesn't care what they look like or are intentionally making things easier to work on.

  • @hesoomelo9868
    @hesoomelo9868 2 года назад +3

    My brother works at Roush and he let me drive it I got 11.7 MPG in the city 😂 it sounds nice but since it’s really heavy it doesn’t have anything like the F150 Raptor

  • @motownXJdad9565
    @motownXJdad9565 2 года назад

    did the upgrade the tie-rods to the kind that dont bend just from running 35" tires on light trails?

  • @ryanvargus9456
    @ryanvargus9456 2 года назад

    What are those plastic handle looking things on each side of the front hood for? Just ornamental things?

  • @Eric10301
    @Eric10301 2 года назад +4

    Gotta agree with Tommy on the fender flares. They look cheap and half hazard.

  • @uik99
    @uik99 2 года назад +6

    Wow that sounds like the lawn mower I hear ever Wednesday morning 😂 oh v6!!! I remember my first engine!!!

  • @StarGateSG7
    @StarGateSG7 2 года назад +2

    I would put a full body wrap on my Bronco Raptor anyways be it Mossy Oak or a CanPat/MarPat Camouflage pattern on the entire body AND fenders!
    You can even get the EXTRA THICK 1/16th inch thick vinyl wrap that also adds some tree branch scraping protection. In terms of the driving range, people are reporting, the on-board computers are getting smarter and more accurate in fuel consumption figures and I have found MANY Broncos are getting around 275 to 300 miles OFF-ROAD in heavy 4x4 terrain which is to be expected.
    That is WHY I am putting the custom built combined bush-bar and heavy duty bumper with winch AND a swing out cage on the back for the FOUR 20 gallon Jerry Cans of fuel (80 gallons and 480 lbs total weight) which is balanced by the heavy duty custom-welded front bumper and heavy duty winch and light bar I will have. And once you take out the back seats and put in your custom 200 litre combo fridge/freezer and 3000 watt Li-Ion camping battery pack and portable solar panel setup, the weight is now full distributed and you can get 1200 miles+ of driving range on even the gnarliest and hilliest of trails.
    The Bronco Raptor is ideal for me but I STILL can't decide whether to get the Bronco Raptor or the F150 Raptor --- I WISH I could get BOTH but I can only get one! The F150 Raptor carries more camp gear but the Bronco's shorter wheel base gets me to the deeper parts of the North Canadian back country of where the bigger fish are since a lot of people just can't/won't go as far into the back country that I am willing to go! With the setup I envision, my camp gear, my gasoline, propane, food and water supplies I would usually carry are enough to keep me in the backcountry for THREE MONTHS at a time if I drive a few tens of km per day to each deeeeeeep back country lake/river I would be fishing at.
    V

  • @fablife1093
    @fablife1093 2 года назад

    I agree with you on the fenders

  • @JV-in9kk
    @JV-in9kk 2 года назад +3

    80k? The dealerships are gonna mark this up to 120k

  • @jeffr6280
    @jeffr6280 2 года назад +3

    Hard to imagine that engine won't have similar issues that the 2.7 has been plagued with.

    • @hotrod7603
      @hotrod7603 2 года назад +3

      Lol there is also a 2.3 which doesn't have any single issue why don't you talk about that ? 2.7 had bad valves it's a reliable motor in f150 , the 3l is too

    • @scenicdepictionsofchicagolife
      @scenicdepictionsofchicagolife 2 года назад

      ​@@hotrod7603 it's all online trolls. the L Nano V6 is a beast of an engine. have one in my 2015 F150 and it's been super reliable not a single issue. they've updated the engine but nothing like a total overhaul. just small updates. Ford has already said that the valve dropping is due to a bad batch of components from the supplier. as long as they acknowledge that and own up / fix the issues then I don't see what the big fuss is. shit happens and this is not an integral design issue. it's a manufacturing defect and it's not even ford's fault in the first place. I presume Ford will start very thoroughly inspecting valves and other components after this whole ordeal BUT that adds cost and auto industry suppliers are expected to produce acceptable components. this will end up just making the motors more expensive so blame the supplier who probably tried to cut corners (or had to due to labor shortages and shit). in fact you could probably trace the whole issue down to the pandemic. but most online trolls and (unfortunately) many consumers will fall prey to the bullshit hearsay.

  • @mattbrew11
    @mattbrew11 2 года назад

    For 96% of recorded dealership history, NOBODY EVER paid MSRP for anything. Now due to extreme shortage and some particularly compelling vehicles, people are asked to pay more and they have forgotten about the $BILLIONS of dollars the dealership industry has saved consumers over time.

  • @jameslindsay479
    @jameslindsay479 4 месяца назад

    I just bought one with all the extras for 95k. Pretty good deal I think, considering you'd pay about 20k to upgrade a regular Bronco with this amazing suspension, 37s, etc, etc.

  • @induction7895
    @induction7895 2 года назад +5

    Regular Bronco sell for $80k. This is $100k+ in today’s stealership world.

    • @comptonoverland7442
      @comptonoverland7442 2 года назад

      Buy a Rolls-Royce and lift it and put it on 40s and throw piles of money under the tires if you get stuck.

  • @islandboy7271
    @islandboy7271 2 года назад +3

    Next? The Bronco Raptor ST.
    Basically a Ford Streethawk. 💪🏽

  • @andrews2203
    @andrews2203 Год назад

    Love the fenders. My favorite part

  • @koreyhayes9263
    @koreyhayes9263 2 года назад

    Point taken on the fenders. I actually like the styling. But I do believe they are removable, so maybe the body remains tucked in to let the big tires do all the rubbing. Function dictates form maybe sort of thing going on.

  • @01redsoxman
    @01redsoxman 2 года назад +3

    The flares are terrible but I’m wondering if their hands were tied due to regulations. Wouldn’t surprise me if regulations say there can’t be too much space between the wheel covering and the wheel

    • @bronxzou
      @bronxzou 2 года назад

      That’s exactly what it is

  • @bigt4135
    @bigt4135 2 года назад +4

    It needs a 2 door manual version

  • @ROCCOCYCLES
    @ROCCOCYCLES 2 года назад +1

    I'll keep my lifted Geo Tracker. It's unstoppable.

  • @shizenjapan
    @shizenjapan 2 года назад +1

    Looks a nice rig. It actually looks like a big beefy Suzuki Jimmy. I quite like the flared arches. I like the colour also. I was originally looking to buy a Jeep but they don't have a diesel engine and the prices are rediculous so decided on a land cruiser instead. Even if they had that Bronco here don't think I would go for that either being a petrol engine. Think it is a bit over priced though.