4 years ago I had the money and bought a 1994 corvette. I have always been a "car" guy but to be honest I knew ZERO about corvette because I never thought I would be able to afford one. I didn't know what to look for, I didn't know what to ask, I didn't know anything. Well 2 days in it wouldn't start because the chip in the key was worn down so much it didn't connect and had to have new keys. After that it wouldn't start and I learned about the Opti-spark in the LT1 corvettes. After that it was the middle LCD screen, headlight motors, weatherstripping, radiator, Fuel injectors the leather on the seats that suck. Needless to say in 4 years I learned a lot and didn't find C&S Corvette youtube until 2 years into owning the car. Well Last week I bought another corvette (2001 with a 6 speed) and I watched ALL of your videos on C5's before even looking this time. My salesman was pissed at you because I asked about the torque tube, harmonic balancer and everything else those videos told me. I went through that car with a fine tooth comb and it was all because of everything you taught me. I was able to work him down on price because I knew every little thing to look for and what to ask. I knew why the seats in it seemed to move an inch back and fourth and why the right headlight made the noise it did and I knew how much it was going to cost and how to address it. I can not thank you enough for the videos and I have passed it on to other first time owners. I have two great running corvettes in my garage and it's because of you....Thank you guys
Damian, I'm so happy to hear this! Educating potential buyers is as important as helping people who already have these cars--maybe even more so. I'm thrilled that you were able to put that knowledge to use in getting the right car at the right price! Thank you for sharing it! Lyle
And then we have the C4... Best of both worlds. Simple enough to do your own repairs on and modern enough to use as a daily driver 😉. Love my '96 LT4 CE.
@@fuse911 The newest C4's getting close to 30 years old and I assume not many car manufacturers making new computers or modules for car's that old. Good thing with cars like the C4 is that there are many businesses that refurbish/manufacturing parts for that car. Used or refurbished parts for the C4 ain't hard to find and the electronics are quite simple and not to hard to repair. If the ECU goes bad an aftermarket stand alone ECU will do the job better than the original, only my opinion.
I'm currently going through this I have to replace a fuel pump and the fuel pump sender. I have a 92. Not cheap and I had just bought it a couple weeks ago.
I bought an 03 2 years ago. She was rough. I paid 10k. Worth every penny spent. I'm no pro. But I love to tinker. My Vette is looking and running so well now. It's satisfying making a cool car look great once again.
Picked up a 99 c5 over 3 years ago. Dealer said it was perfect turns out it wasn't. Wanted 11k. After deducting all the parts it needed I walked away for 7,300. All basic stuff I could do myself. After fixing everything myself, saving alot of shop time. She runs and drives great now and learned there was alot of engine work done (way over 400hp) I know I got lucky but couldn't afford a perfect example so I did what I had to. Bought a 95 for 4,100 for my son right after that. Perfect condition with 80k and a ton of service records. Got 2 for 11,400
Walter, you did your homework, and I'm guessing a car guy. Well done. Many are not, and buying the dream. Unskilled dreamers usually take a bath. Know what you are buying. But what if you don't know sh... about cars? Lyle is just giving the average new car person some "food for thought ". At least that's how I see it.
I got a Corvette c4 sir and it's making a noise that sound like a pulley or the belt. I've changed the serpentine belt, ideler pulley, the tensioner, and check the harmonic balancer and it seems to be ok. I do not have a catch can. My little research tells me it could be the pressure from not having a catch can that's making that noise. Is that true or possible sir?
I bought my first corvette ever last October, and it is the absolute greatest car I've ever owned. It's a 2008 C6. What's funny is that the guy who sold it to me told me it had been used by the police for the past 6 years, and they only put 2k on the car during that time. He said undercover cops bought cars from him all the time, so he knew it was probably used by undercover cops posing as drug dealers - he'd sold them cars for that purpose before. It was seized by the cops, and then they used it for 6 years in their undercover work. And it's flashy and red with black decals - it does look a bit like a punk should be driving it. I'm a 46-year-old woman, so I find the whole thing really hilarious. Everyone in my family loves that it's a former undercover narc mobile!
Hi Lyle Rick here, Just thought i would share just what you said would happen! I bought 85 c4 for 3200 and boy i will fix it up! Being a retired mechanic that can fix just about anything i figured no problem. RIGHT I did all the labor myself. I will just list the parts as much as i can remember. Starting with it needed a 700R4 transmission, complete exhaust and manifold studs, all hangers. New flywheel Starter all new brakes Tires Iac motor all temp sensors anti knock sensor injectors plenum gaskets bypass hose new distributor wires plugs distributor cap oils sensors oil change air pump delete kit new valve covers and gaskets new rockers and pushrods all new vacuum lines air filter All new carpets and reupholster seats replaced most of the interior plastic shifter boot rebuilt instrument panel all seals rear glass latch storage box covers all light bulbs not headlamps Door panels rekeyed door locks and console cover headliner in targa top TPS sensor Visors Radio and power antenna All stabilizer bar mounts front and rear AND I AM SURE I forget all kinds of things Again I did All the Labor in a year But I got a College degree on the c4 BUYER BEWARE !!!!!! RUNS PERFECT NOW Going to paint it this year Two tone bottom burgundy wine and white Top
Lyle, you last comment on saving for upcoming necessary repairs was spot on!!!!! Tires, brakes, alignment or whatever. Put some money away, to keep your ride "whole", or save to purchase/trade for a new/new to you, ride. This has worked for me for since I was thirty. No financial surprises, can keep my vehicles very reliable, and enjoy them more when I'm in them. There's something satisfying when you can go out, climb in your fully fuelled ride and just go. Without unnecessary financial or reliability worries. But it doesn't happen by chance. Like you say, do a "little planning", it'll pay huge dividends.
I used to work at a Corvette shop. The amount of shocked owners would always surprise. Their great cars. Being machines means they’ll always needs a little love and care.
Waiting on the C4’s video! 😂😂😂😂 finally moved closer to my working place last year. 56 miles round trip (from Plant City to Tampa) and now im driving my 40th anniversary every day to work! What a joy! Had the car since January 21! Like you said. Now all the small noises and lights are starting to come up. 😂 now i need a lift in my garage!
Funny thing about this video. When I bought my 1966 Sting Ray from my Uncle. He said exactly " now it is your turn to throw money at it". I don't regret it one bit. It gives me a chance to make it the way I want it. Great video as always and so spot on. Keep up the great work!!
Great advice. Had to learn this the hard way. Transmission rebuilt, rear axels replaced, DIC taken out rebuilt, knock sensors replaced, the list goes on. Should I have bought a new c7 or greater. The money spent says yes, but man I love the car don’t think I can let go now 😂
Lyle and Steve are 2 of the best Corvette buddies you'll ever have. Living in Michigan and Florida, my only wish is they were near Tampa instead of Sarasota!!
So true about the history and condition of the car correlating to the cost of ownership. I inherited a 1971 vette. It has had at least two owners. Been in a barn for years but started and driven occasionally. I was told all it needed was paint, interior, and vacum lines. A year and $3,000 in parts I have not started on paint, interior, or vacum lines. But a great experience with my son working on it together.
Thanks Lyle, I wish I would’ve found your videos sooner. I recently purchased a 99 C5 Corvette. I’m 55 and I always dreamed of owning a Corvette. I’ve already discovered 4 or 5 things I need to address! Some of which you already have videos showing how to repair. Hopefully I can fix most of these minor issues my self and enjoy the car.
I own an 07 C6 that I’ve had since 2009. With the exception of fluid changes, Brakes, and the regular maintenance stuff. I’ve only had to replace the Alternator once, and the battery twice. I’ve put 48,000 miles on it.
I just sold my bass boat as being 70 I shouldn't be on the water alone. At least that's what everyone says. Well I have decided my next venture is a C7 GS in Watkins Glen Gray! I have been binge watching your channel for a week. By Far the Best Corvette channel on YT! Thanks for all the great info!
This is my first time watching your videos. Very impressed with your knowledge base & integrity. I'm just in a C2 dream. Love the '64, '65, and '66 Stingrays.
They are gorgeous, for sure...but you really need to be a handy wrench yourself if you want one of those cars without having it break your wallet. That is my main caution regarding older Corvettes. :) Lyle
got my 1987 C4 base model in gold in 2013 for $6000. Drove it about 20.000 miles since then and I didnt spend more then $3000 in that time. It's an absolute dream and not slow. I just drove it yesterday here in Germany on the Autobahn with over 150mph. Bulletproof car.
Lyle, So appreciative of your well thought out and beautifully presented informational videos! Haven’t purchased my first corvette yet but at 68 years of age, I am researching and planning to buy my first C7 this spring. Living in Bradenton and am grateful that we have such a great state to enjoy these beautiful machines! Thanks again and be well.
Thinking the same thing as you. I want a C7 also but what do you think of the current pricing? Seems they are over priced to me. Do you think the prices will ever go back to normal like pre-covid prices? Some of these prices are close to MSRP and they are 4 or 5 years old. What's your thoughts?
Regarding the “escrow” recommendation for the more modern cars… absolutely SPOT ON. Great advice! I bought a really nice low-mileage C6 Grand Sport and put about 30k miles on it in just under three years without any repairs (just routine maintenance)… and then the A/C compressor crapped out (on one of the hottest days of the year when we were on a road trip three hours from home - of course!). It cost me TWO GRAND to fix at the Chevy dealership - mainly because their book called for 8 hours of labor to replace because it’s so difficult to access. Anyway… if I’d been given this advice sooner and followed it, this bill would have been much easier to swallow. DO IT.
Great advice! Much appreciated. These extra ownership costs can be included into an annual budget even before I purchase a vehicle so I'll know what the true costs are beyond the purchase price.
Great advice! $1500 a year is a helluva lot cheaper than car payments. I knew a girl who loved new Vettes. After two years she wore it out. She could not hold that throttle steady if he were paid. I baby every car and truck I have. I never turn the wheel unless I am moving. I get 100,000 on a set of brake pads, 70k on Michelins, and there is no other brand for me. Do the same thing with your bodies so you can enjoy those Corvettes for a long long time.
Thanks Lyle. Good advice. I have a 87 coupe owned for20 years. Outside of regular maintenance and updates and a blown head gasket( 2400.00 at 80k miles) I have spent very little. Garage kept and less than 5k per year, it’s been a great car. Of course you have to talk to them and give them hug once in while 😂
Thanks for the information. I wanted to own a vette every since I was 13, but couldn't afford one. Now at 74, my dream finally came true. I use to pass by this particular house regularly and he had a c6 atomic orange base model. So one day I passed by one day and it had a for sale sign on it. I enquired about it and he said it had 73000 miles on it. It had been maintained by dealership only. It had new brakes, michelin run flats, the harmonic balancer had been changed, plus the shift cable. He had purchased a transparent top and never used. The car was garage kept with cover and my favorite chrome wheels. I test drove it and checked it over. All was needed was air and cabin filters. I enjoy it no leaks no where. It's only a weekend driver. I'm not a speedster so it should be around for a while. Thanks again.
That is great, Bobby! You did everything correctly, had some knowledge going into the purchase, and came away with a car that will last you for years! Enjoy!!! Lyle
On c5 and newer, dont forget the clutch. 500 clutch pack will cost 10 times that much on the vette. Very labor intensive and not for the faint of heart.
Lyle, long time subscriber here. I’ve used a lot of your tips and advice and it’s very helpful, you’re doing a great service to us Vette owners and I/ we hope you continue to do so for a long time. My question is, much like two of the earlier comments from Julio Manlucu and Kickstart My Crue, I live in an area that gets snow and ice and salt is used on the roads. What are guys like us to do when weather such as this prohibits driving for 45 minutes every other week as per your advice? I have my 2000 C5 on a battery tender and I start the car and let it run for about 45 minutes or so every two or three weeks. I’ve been doing this routine for 5 winters now and everything seems to be fine. I would love to see a video on this or maybe some advice for us colder climate owners. Thank You in advance for any response you give.
Thanks Lyle. I've been a c3 owner for 11 years, only parts needed have been tires, calipers and pads. So far this car has been very cheap to drive.But I have only put 6k on it in 11 years.
Hahahaha...each and every single word you said about "antique Corvettes" is true! I bought a 63 C2 in 2018 for 37 Grands and brought the car from Ohio to Germany (which makes the spares expensive). Since then, she is my rolling piggy bank... 🙂 But I love her! No regrets!
Excellent advice regardless of type of vehicle. I have a 2000 C5 convertible that was well maintained by previous owner. It’s had some issues, but all reasonably dealt with.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and wisdom, Lyle. I'll keep your last piece of advice about saving $1500 a year for possible repairs in mind. I am currently driving a base 2014 C7 Stingray, and so far it has been a dream, but I also am just scared of dealing with its first trip to the mechanic. Luckily, it's under warranty. 👍
Almost bought an 88 recently. I was in denial when the corvette shop said don’t buy it. Towed it for a second opinion only for it to then refuse to start. After spending nearly $300 and really only getting advice and an oil change, I had to face reality and let it go. Very happy I did.
I find your comments on this subject highly informative and helpful cause I’m in the market for a C7 Corvette preferably 2015-2016 thanks for the heads up
Good stuff Lyle! I'm in Wisconsin, and for 3 seasons I drive my 73 coupe pretty much daily. Roughly 15 thousand a year. I have a great shop by me that keeps it running nicely for me, and once you go through everything like wiring, rattling and all that kind of crap, it's not too bad. Small block so it's decent mileage, and like you said, I started with a great car to begin with...
You are a 1000% correct on all of this. When i first bought my C7 i thought "Ok, i know oil changes will be high. I cant get under it myself so ill have Chevy do it." Plus other things will happen so i started a separate bank account for it like a car payment. $150/month. Where i live 4 months a year are not favorable driving conditions. Fair enough. Low and behold! The touch screen interface went out the same year she needed tires. $1800 for the radio, close to $2000 for tires. Add the oil change, & new battery they did while they had her, im sitting on a $4200 bill. But, ive been saving that $150/mo for three years b4 i had to dip into it. So not bad considering that i made a point of enjoying her for a full day at least once every two weeks if not every weekend.
Totally agree with your thinking. For many years I've put a few hundred into a "car maintenence" account every month. Across my Corvette and my Cadillac, I almost always have money sitting there ready for the various costs that crop up ... and just as well, because I've never been in a position to simply have "excess" cash lying around! :-)
Great video, insurance on all of the Vette’s we’ve had, the tires are more expensive than a “regular” car because you’re changing them much more often than on a normal car/truck. Otherwise they have been pretty Dadgum reasonable. My 2005 was the most Troublesome of the 6 we’ve had, I hope the first model year curse passes over our 2020 C8😊
Another great video Lyle - we bought our C5 - my 4th Corvette - so recovered seats by C&S Corvette- replaced power steering rack (leak) - blend doors - rear brakes - parking brake - fluids - filters - use NCM Insurance- your $1500 annual spot on - oh - low mileage car - weekend cruiser-
Have 2004 convertible. 70° plus ride, always have the top down. Only a few issues. Both power window motors, one by mechanic and the other by myself (EASY REPAIR). Sun visors purchased through your site, shale color match is fine. Don't have a wobble on balancer yet. Lots of good info on this site.👍
Great vdeo as usual. Very informative. I would also like to see a winterized video for us northerners who can't move those cars when the snow comes. What's your suggestions on setting them up for the winter.
"Cheap" corvettes are absolutely expensive in the long term. I sorta knew what I was getting into because I bought mine with the intention o having a project and it's taught me so much honestly which I do love but sometimes it'd also make me want to send it to the crusher too. So far I've had to replace all of the interior lights and back lights which had burned out, replace a mosfet on the hvac controller because it had burned out, replace the clutch, rebuild the torque tube, rebuild the transmission, replace the blown shocks, suspension bushings and ball joints, replace the intake manifold because it had a crack in it, along with various gaskets and plastic pieces along the way. So in the end definitely not cheap hahah (especially because I don't even consider the car finished either)
Looking for this comment. Bought a somewhat “cheap” 01 zo6. great condition as far as paint and interior, but had 125k miles on it and it was my first car and vette I have bought. Has been an amazing car but a pain in the ass at the same time. Have spent well over 5k on parts alone, and I have done all the work myself. But I do drive the thing very hard as far as street use goes, so I can’t be too mad stuff is needing replacing constantly as I really enjoy driving it. If I were to buy another vette it would either have to be stock and have somewhat extensive maintenance records or be modded nicely with super low miles (mine was modded with high miles). I keep telling myself it will be finished and not be a project but I know it will always need to be worked on if I keep driving it how I do
You mentioned the ECBM issue on 97-00 C5s. An individual on Corvette Forum gives instructions on replacing the ECBM on early C5s with one from a later model C5. Could you comment on this conversation sometime? Appreciate all your knowledge and videos. Keep up the great work!
Ken, I have had several requests to cover this topic and will look deeper into it for a future video. I know guys have done it successfully and documented their experiences on the forum, like you said. Stay tuned! :) Lyle
That's my 2001. I've had it 12 years. First big bill was slave cylinder blowout (add clutch and pilot bearing). Next was harmonic balancer (went ahead and did valve and valley covers). This time it wants a LOT of money. Oil pan seal, oil pump, ps rack leak, failing lifter and worn cam. Every 4 years it had required a sacrifice. But they're fun cars!
You are so right about maintenance. And the car sitting there, and the next time you know something's broke on it, i've got four C threes, And it seems like every time I drive them, when I park them, I get back in them two or three days later, maybe a week. There's something wrong with it. Then Pour more money in it. I can do the work myself. But it's more work than enjoyment. So buy a good one from the get go.
I’m in my late 50’s and drive a Mazda Miata, somehow I think many of us gradually fall into the Porsche or Corvette world. This was an interesting video.
HI Lyle this may be a situation that you may already know but it was a big problem for me my 98 would shut down while I was driving I would pull over put in park it would fire up. So when the event at carlsle the past summer offered diagnostic service I made appointment to have it looked at tech from corvette found problem, he said the key was worn and said I might need new switch, and said the key was losing contact in switch and system would shut down, so I went home and switched keys spare was like new and removed other items on key ring so only the key is in switch and haven't had any problems since.
C6 z51 black. So far i replaced the radiator, starter, water pump, harmonic balancer, wiring harness, headlights, torque tube, rear main seal, oil pump, shocks, engine gaskets, steering wheel, stereo, rotors and it was worth every penny.
I was a parts guy for a dealer that owned a BMW 633CSI Alpina grey market car. Very clean and low mileage. Some miscreant took a screwdriver to the ignition lock cylinder and cut the S1800 Italian leather steering wheel in the process. So add criminal activity to your list of possible expenses when considering your purchase of a vehicle.
Again great informative video. All you say is so true. Only wishing I could have a Corvette extra money account for future expenses. That’s the tough part. I deal with each issue as it comes. So far it’s been what I could handle. Mine is a ‘98 and my fear is that part that cannot be fixed or replaced. The EBCM I believe it’s called. I hear and see so many videos about it and it scares me . What does your shop do with a customer that brings in one with this problem? Thank you as always.
Great video Lyle, I’m about six months into my ownership of a 2009 3LTZ 51 Corvette on the second owner and I have money set aside I know that I’m going to have to spend money for things like tires and brakes so your advice is spot on. I would like your opinion on one thing, I’ve never believed in aftermarket warranties. For a 09 Corvette with 59,000 miles would you consider an aftermarket warranty a good or a bad proposition to offset those huge things like the ABS module or the torque tube.
James, the key with aftermarket warranties is making sure to read the fine print below the fine print....Make sure that the things you are trying to protect yourself against are ABSOLUTELY covered by that poilicy, and that you get to choose who does the work. Beyond that, I think it is a wise investment. Lyle
Also own an '09. Would not waste a dime on any warranty. Bought tires for $1,000 last year. Brake work is not that expensive. Have your brakes bleed, change air filter, clean MAF and throttle body that are all easy to do and inexpensive. Enjoy!
AVOID THOSE CRAPPY after market warranties!!! Friend of the family that works at a dealership for used cars said even the BEST RATED ones are garbage and NOT WORTH THE MONEY!!!
Turned 50, always wanted one so I picked up a 98 convertible. Living in Canada means you need a place to store it in the winter, also a reliable winter car.. I’ve had it 8 years and it’s my regular vehicle all summer long. By the way, I pay 48 bucks a month, year round and it’s insured replacement value is20k. Haggerty is the only company you should insure your Vette
Hello sir , I love your show thank you. I’m from Chicago and I have my C5 anniversary .I bought it 2 yrs ago .during winter I have it my garage not heated but double cover from Chicago weather. My question is should I start my car and run it for 45 minutes.? I appreciate your response and Thank you in advance.. Jul .
Julio im in the same boat. I have an 84 that i have in my garage. Garage isn't heated but it's not really feasible to drive it right now with snow, but i have heard just starting it and letting it run isnt what i should do. After what Lyle said, im kinda lost on what to do.
9 years of owning my 01 c5 balancer and auto transmission internal harness . Rear wheel bearings. Tune up. $2500 total. Very inexpensive fun weekend cruiser.
That "set aside $1500 a year" line scares me... I have had my C6 for almost 15 years and my biggest repair was replacing a Catalytic Converter this spring.
I am thinking about buying a C5 coup. I would be keeping it on the street, though. However, the prices and what you get for $20k is such a better deal than half the new cars I see all over my neighborhood.
This especially for the c4’s. Personally I own a 35th anniversary corvette. Car has 127k on it. When it was delivered from a large very dishonest dealer up north. The car was a basket case. Radiator was bad to the point it was overheated off the trailer. A/c didn’t work or heat. Radio was aftermarket and hacked in. Alternator went out. Radio mast didn’t work. Back lights on the cluster were out. Head light motors needed work with the pellets.plus a lot more the other day I had to spend 10 hours chasing a short down. Honestly if you are good with cars and enjoy working on the a c4 is an amazing experience however if not skip the c4 and go straight towards a c5 or c6
Magnetic ride shocks to be done on my 2003 c5 . Guess ill be doing my own work, the new shocks were extremely expensive but thats part of the adventure of owning a old car.
Great and true advice.I found that a poorly maintained Vette was like dominoes. When one thing "broke," then something else went.This is a must-see video. Edit: Find a mechanic that knows the beast.The corner mechanic might be a good guy, but replacing parts until he/she finds the problem; ultra expen$$$$ive.
I had Hagerty and switched to Grundy because it was a load cheaper. I got my '68 Corvette because my friend blew the engine and need a daily driver so I swapped him my '75 Chevy Monza. I had a rebuilt 454 from my '65 Malibu SS and swapped it into the Vette.
It's hard to believe how maintenance free my 2000 has been. 149000 and runs like new. It is garaged, and I use it in the winter when the roads are dry.
Lyle, you have said it before but didnt hear you say this time, even if the car is only 10k now, it requires service of a 50k sports car. Cheap purchase price doesnt mean cheap maintenance cost.
4 years ago I had the money and bought a 1994 corvette. I have always been a "car" guy but to be honest I knew ZERO about corvette because I never thought I would be able to afford one. I didn't know what to look for, I didn't know what to ask, I didn't know anything. Well 2 days in it wouldn't start because the chip in the key was worn down so much it didn't connect and had to have new keys. After that it wouldn't start and I learned about the Opti-spark in the LT1 corvettes. After that it was the middle LCD screen, headlight motors, weatherstripping, radiator, Fuel injectors the leather on the seats that suck. Needless to say in 4 years I learned a lot and didn't find C&S Corvette youtube until 2 years into owning the car. Well Last week I bought another corvette (2001 with a 6 speed) and I watched ALL of your videos on C5's before even looking this time. My salesman was pissed at you because I asked about the torque tube, harmonic balancer and everything else those videos told me. I went through that car with a fine tooth comb and it was all because of everything you taught me. I was able to work him down on price because I knew every little thing to look for and what to ask. I knew why the seats in it seemed to move an inch back and fourth and why the right headlight made the noise it did and I knew how much it was going to cost and how to address it. I can not thank you enough for the videos and I have passed it on to other first time owners. I have two great running corvettes in my garage and it's because of you....Thank you guys
Damian, I'm so happy to hear this! Educating potential buyers is as important as helping people who already have these cars--maybe even more so. I'm thrilled that you were able to put that knowledge to use in getting the right car at the right price! Thank you for sharing it! Lyle
very informative and accurate description of the corvette curse "they know when to break" he's 100% right.
And then we have the C4... Best of both worlds. Simple enough to do your own repairs on and modern enough to use as a daily driver 😉. Love my '96 LT4 CE.
I agree I love my 1996 LT1. I wish mine looked this nice...ruclips.net/video/yY1ezZpIMqw/видео.html
lol about that
Till you have trouble finding computers for that car
@@fuse911 The newest C4's getting close to 30 years old and I assume not many car manufacturers making new computers or modules for car's that old. Good thing with cars like the C4 is that there are many businesses that refurbish/manufacturing parts for that car. Used or refurbished parts for the C4 ain't hard to find and the electronics are quite simple and not to hard to repair. If the ECU goes bad an aftermarket stand alone ECU will do the job better than the original, only my opinion.
I'm currently going through this I have to replace a fuel pump and the fuel pump sender. I have a 92. Not cheap and I had just bought it a couple weeks ago.
This guy gives honest advice. Watch his videos before you buy. Verry knowledgeable!!
The wisdom this man offers is priceless. The escrow account for your corvette maintenance cracked me up a bit. Great stuff Lyle.
I bought an 03 2 years ago. She was rough. I paid 10k. Worth every penny spent. I'm no pro. But I love to tinker. My Vette is looking and running so well now. It's satisfying making a cool car look great once again.
Picked up a 99 c5 over 3 years ago. Dealer said it was perfect turns out it wasn't. Wanted 11k. After deducting all the parts it needed I walked away for 7,300. All basic stuff I could do myself. After fixing everything myself, saving alot of shop time. She runs and drives great now and learned there was alot of engine work done (way over 400hp) I know I got lucky but couldn't afford a perfect example so I did what I had to. Bought a 95 for 4,100 for my son right after that. Perfect condition with 80k and a ton of service records. Got 2 for 11,400
Walter, you did your homework, and I'm guessing a car guy. Well done. Many are not, and buying the dream. Unskilled dreamers usually take a bath. Know what you are buying. But what if you don't know sh... about cars? Lyle is just giving the average new car person some "food for thought ". At least that's how I see it.
I got a Corvette c4 sir and it's making a noise that sound like a pulley or the belt. I've changed the serpentine belt, ideler pulley, the tensioner, and check the harmonic balancer and it seems to be ok. I do not have a catch can. My little research tells me it could be the pressure from not having a catch can that's making that noise. Is that true or possible sir?
Congratulations 🎊🍾🎈🎉!
Looks like you got two good cars.
There’s a lot of good Corvette models out there. Just gotta search 🔦.
buy something you can fix yourself
I bought my first corvette ever last October, and it is the absolute greatest car I've ever owned. It's a 2008 C6. What's funny is that the guy who sold it to me told me it had been used by the police for the past 6 years, and they only put 2k on the car during that time. He said undercover cops bought cars from him all the time, so he knew it was probably used by undercover cops posing as drug dealers - he'd sold them cars for that purpose before. It was seized by the cops, and then they used it for 6 years in their undercover work. And it's flashy and red with black decals - it does look a bit like a punk should be driving it. I'm a 46-year-old woman, so I find the whole thing really hilarious. Everyone in my family loves that it's a former undercover narc mobile!
Hi Lyle Rick here, Just thought i would share just what you said would happen! I bought 85 c4 for 3200 and boy i will fix it up! Being a retired mechanic that can fix just about anything i figured no problem. RIGHT I did all the labor myself. I will just list the parts as much as i can remember. Starting with it needed a 700R4 transmission, complete exhaust and manifold studs, all hangers. New flywheel Starter all new brakes Tires Iac motor all temp sensors anti knock sensor injectors plenum gaskets bypass hose new distributor wires plugs distributor cap oils sensors oil change air pump delete kit new valve covers and gaskets new rockers and pushrods all new vacuum lines air filter All new carpets and reupholster seats replaced most of the interior plastic shifter boot rebuilt instrument panel all seals rear glass latch storage box covers all light bulbs not headlamps Door panels rekeyed door locks and console cover headliner in targa top TPS sensor Visors Radio and power antenna All stabilizer bar mounts front and rear AND I AM SURE I forget all kinds of things Again I did All the Labor in a year But I got a College degree on the c4 BUYER BEWARE !!!!!! RUNS PERFECT NOW
Going to paint it this year Two tone bottom burgundy wine and white Top
Lyle, you last comment on saving for upcoming necessary repairs was spot on!!!!! Tires, brakes, alignment or whatever. Put some money away, to keep your ride "whole", or save to purchase/trade for a new/new to you, ride. This has worked for me for since I was thirty. No financial surprises, can keep my vehicles very reliable, and enjoy them more when I'm in them. There's something satisfying when you can go out, climb in your fully fuelled ride and just go. Without unnecessary financial or reliability worries. But it doesn't happen by chance. Like you say, do a "little planning", it'll pay huge dividends.
I used to work at a Corvette shop.
The amount of shocked owners would always surprise. Their great cars. Being machines means they’ll always needs a little love and care.
Waiting on the C4’s video! 😂😂😂😂 finally moved closer to my working place last year. 56 miles round trip (from Plant City to Tampa) and now im driving my 40th anniversary every day to work! What a joy! Had the car since January 21! Like you said. Now all the small noises and lights are starting to come up. 😂 now i need a lift in my garage!
Funny thing about this video. When I bought my 1966 Sting Ray from my Uncle. He said exactly " now it is your turn to throw money at it". I don't regret it one bit. It gives me a chance to make it the way I want it. Great video as always and so spot on. Keep up the great work!!
Great advice. Had to learn this the hard way. Transmission rebuilt, rear axels replaced, DIC taken out rebuilt, knock sensors replaced, the list goes on. Should I have bought a new c7 or greater. The money spent says yes, but man I love the car don’t think I can let go now 😂
Lyle and Steve are 2 of the best Corvette buddies you'll ever have. Living in Michigan and Florida, my only wish is they were near Tampa instead of Sarasota!!
... or Clearwater better yet.
@@lanchedriver5655 Yeah, I'm really close, up here in north Palm Harbor.
As a future C6 owner, thank you for your videos!
So true about the history and condition of the car correlating to the cost of ownership. I inherited a 1971 vette. It has had at least two owners. Been in a barn for years but started and driven occasionally. I was told all it needed was paint, interior, and vacum lines. A year and $3,000 in parts I have not started on paint, interior, or vacum lines. But a great experience with my son working on it together.
Being able to share time with a loved one working on the car is one of life's great pleasures. Enjoy! Lyle
Thanks Lyle, I wish I would’ve found your videos sooner. I recently purchased a 99 C5 Corvette. I’m 55 and I always dreamed of owning a Corvette. I’ve already discovered 4 or 5 things I need to address! Some of which you already have videos showing how to repair. Hopefully I can fix most of these minor issues my self and enjoy the car.
I own an 07 C6 that I’ve had since 2009. With the exception of fluid changes, Brakes, and the regular maintenance stuff. I’ve only had to replace the Alternator once, and the battery twice. I’ve put 48,000 miles on it.
How often is oil change required and how much does it cost to change the oil on it
I just sold my bass boat as being 70 I shouldn't be on the water alone. At least that's what everyone says. Well I have decided my next venture is a C7 GS in Watkins Glen Gray! I have been binge watching your channel for a week. By Far the Best Corvette channel on YT! Thanks for all the great info!
This is my first time watching your videos. Very impressed with your knowledge base & integrity. I'm just in a C2 dream. Love the '64, '65, and '66 Stingrays.
They are gorgeous, for sure...but you really need to be a handy wrench yourself if you want one of those cars without having it break your wallet. That is my main caution regarding older Corvettes. :) Lyle
got my 1987 C4 base model in gold in 2013 for $6000. Drove it about 20.000 miles since then and I didnt spend more then $3000 in that time. It's an absolute dream and not slow. I just drove it yesterday here in Germany on the Autobahn with over 150mph. Bulletproof car.
Lyle, So appreciative of your well thought out and beautifully presented informational videos! Haven’t purchased my first corvette yet but at 68 years of age, I am researching and planning to buy my first C7 this spring. Living in Bradenton and am grateful that we have such a great state to enjoy these beautiful machines! Thanks again and be well.
Thinking the same thing as you. I want a C7 also but what do you think of the current pricing? Seems they are over priced to me. Do you think the prices will ever go back to normal like pre-covid prices? Some of these prices are close to MSRP and they are 4 or 5 years old. What's your thoughts?
Regarding the “escrow” recommendation for the more modern cars… absolutely SPOT ON. Great advice! I bought a really nice low-mileage C6 Grand Sport and put about 30k miles on it in just under three years without any repairs (just routine maintenance)… and then the A/C compressor crapped out (on one of the hottest days of the year when we were on a road trip three hours from home - of course!). It cost me TWO GRAND to fix at the Chevy dealership - mainly because their book called for 8 hours of labor to replace because it’s so difficult to access. Anyway… if I’d been given this advice sooner and followed it, this bill would have been much easier to swallow. DO IT.
Are you going to do a video on the C4? You didn't touch on them.
Great advice! Much appreciated. These extra ownership costs can be included into an annual budget even before I purchase a vehicle so I'll know what the true costs are beyond the purchase price.
Great advice! $1500 a year is a helluva lot cheaper than car payments. I knew a girl who loved new Vettes. After two years she wore it out. She could not hold that throttle steady if he were paid. I baby every car and truck I have. I never turn the wheel unless I am moving. I get 100,000 on a set of brake pads, 70k on Michelins, and there is no other brand for me. Do the same thing with your bodies so you can enjoy those Corvettes for a long long time.
Girls have no business diving corvettes
Thanks Lyle. Good advice. I have a 87 coupe owned for20 years. Outside of regular maintenance and updates and a blown head gasket( 2400.00 at 80k miles) I have spent very little. Garage kept and less than 5k per year, it’s been a great car. Of course you have to talk to them and give them hug once in while 😂
Thanks for the information. I wanted to own a vette every since I was 13, but couldn't afford one. Now at 74, my dream finally came true. I use to pass by this particular house regularly and he had a c6 atomic orange base model. So one day I passed by one day and it had a for sale sign on it. I enquired about it and he said it had 73000 miles on it. It had been maintained by dealership only. It had new brakes, michelin run flats, the harmonic balancer had been changed, plus the shift cable. He had purchased a transparent top and never used. The car was garage kept with cover and my favorite chrome wheels. I test drove it and checked it over. All was needed was air and cabin filters. I enjoy it no leaks no where. It's only a weekend driver. I'm not a speedster so it should be around for a while. Thanks again.
That is great, Bobby! You did everything correctly, had some knowledge going into the purchase, and came away with a car that will last you for years! Enjoy!!! Lyle
Lyle, right on with the C5 & newer Corvettes, more & more aging electronics that will need to be addressed eventually
On c5 and newer, dont forget the clutch. 500 clutch pack will cost 10 times that much on the vette. Very labor intensive and not for the faint of heart.
Lyle, long time subscriber here. I’ve used a lot of your tips and advice and it’s very helpful, you’re doing a great service to us Vette owners and I/ we hope you continue to do so for a long time.
My question is, much like two of the earlier comments from Julio Manlucu and Kickstart My Crue, I live in an area that gets snow and ice and salt is used on the roads. What are guys like us to do when weather such as this prohibits driving for 45 minutes every other week as per your advice? I have my 2000 C5 on a battery tender and I start the car and let it run for about 45 minutes or so every two or three weeks. I’ve been doing this routine for 5 winters now and everything seems to be fine. I would love to see a video on this or maybe some advice for us colder climate owners. Thank You in advance for any response you give.
Same here
Thanks Lyle. I've been a c3 owner for 11 years, only parts needed have been tires, calipers and pads. So far this car has been very cheap to drive.But I have only put 6k on it in 11 years.
Hahahaha...each and every single word you said about "antique Corvettes" is true! I bought a 63 C2 in 2018 for 37 Grands and brought the car from Ohio to Germany (which makes the spares expensive). Since then, she is my rolling piggy bank... 🙂 But I love her! No regrets!
Excellent advice regardless of type of vehicle. I have a 2000 C5 convertible that was well maintained by previous owner. It’s had some issues, but all reasonably dealt with.
My 2001convert has 72k on it and runs like a top. I wouldn't sell for any reason.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and wisdom, Lyle. I'll keep your last piece of advice about saving $1500 a year for possible repairs in mind. I am currently driving a base 2014 C7 Stingray, and so far it has been a dream, but I also am just scared of dealing with its first trip to the mechanic. Luckily, it's under warranty. 👍
Almost bought an 88 recently. I was in denial when the corvette shop said don’t buy it. Towed it for a second opinion only for it to then refuse to start. After spending nearly $300 and really only getting advice and an oil change, I had to face reality and let it go. Very happy I did.
I find your comments on this subject highly informative and helpful cause I’m in the market for a C7 Corvette preferably 2015-2016 thanks for the heads up
If looking at an automatic transmission C7, do some research on their issues. Manuals no problem.
Good stuff Lyle! I'm in Wisconsin, and for 3 seasons I drive my 73 coupe pretty much daily. Roughly 15 thousand a year. I have a great shop by me that keeps it running nicely for me, and once you go through everything like wiring, rattling and all that kind of crap, it's not too bad. Small block so it's decent mileage, and like you said, I started with a great car to begin with...
You are a 1000% correct on all of this. When i first bought my C7 i thought "Ok, i know oil changes will be high. I cant get under it myself so ill have Chevy do it." Plus other things will happen so i started a separate bank account for it like a car payment. $150/month. Where i live 4 months a year are not favorable driving conditions. Fair enough.
Low and behold! The touch screen interface went out the same year she needed tires. $1800 for the radio, close to $2000 for tires. Add the oil change, & new battery they did while they had her, im sitting on a $4200 bill. But, ive been saving that $150/mo for three years b4 i had to dip into it. So not bad considering that i made a point of enjoying her for a full day at least once every two weeks if not every weekend.
Precisely!! You are an excellent example of how to plan ahead !! Lyle
Totally agree with your thinking. For many years I've put a few hundred into a "car maintenence" account every month. Across my Corvette and my Cadillac, I almost always have money sitting there ready for the various costs that crop up ... and just as well, because I've never been in a position to simply have "excess" cash lying around! :-)
Great video I always on every Video pickup something I didn't know . Which means you can always teach an old dog a new trick
Great video, insurance on all of the Vette’s we’ve had, the tires are more expensive than a “regular” car because you’re changing them much more often than on a normal car/truck. Otherwise they have been pretty Dadgum reasonable. My 2005 was the most Troublesome of the 6 we’ve had, I hope the first model year curse passes over our 2020 C8😊
thank you very much, this was direct, clear, and very logical
Thank you for this important segment. Vroom! Vroom!
Yes, I agree, greetings from Valrico, Florida
Such a great video 👍
Thank you! Hello from Chicago
Thanks for your time. For me it seems just when I get some money together, something happens and eats it all up.
Great advice as always....HEY, got a peek of behind the scenes!!!! Nice Surprise. 🙂
Another great video Lyle - we bought our C5 - my 4th Corvette - so recovered seats by C&S Corvette- replaced power steering rack (leak) - blend doors - rear brakes - parking brake - fluids - filters - use NCM Insurance- your $1500 annual spot on - oh - low mileage car - weekend cruiser-
Great content.You have great info.And very honest.Thankyou
Have 2004 convertible. 70° plus ride, always have the top down. Only a few issues. Both power window motors, one by mechanic and the other by myself (EASY REPAIR). Sun visors purchased through your site, shale color match is fine. Don't have a wobble on balancer yet. Lots of good info on this site.👍
Great vdeo as usual. Very informative. I would also like to see a winterized video for us northerners who can't move those cars when the snow comes. What's your suggestions on setting them up for the winter.
"Cheap" corvettes are absolutely expensive in the long term. I sorta knew what I was getting into because I bought mine with the intention o having a project and it's taught me so much honestly which I do love but sometimes it'd also make me want to send it to the crusher too. So far I've had to replace all of the interior lights and back lights which had burned out, replace a mosfet on the hvac controller because it had burned out, replace the clutch, rebuild the torque tube, rebuild the transmission, replace the blown shocks, suspension bushings and ball joints, replace the intake manifold because it had a crack in it, along with various gaskets and plastic pieces along the way. So in the end definitely not cheap hahah (especially because I don't even consider the car finished either)
Looking for this comment. Bought a somewhat “cheap” 01 zo6. great condition as far as paint and interior, but had 125k miles on it and it was my first car and vette I have bought. Has been an amazing car but a pain in the ass at the same time. Have spent well over 5k on parts alone, and I have done all the work myself. But I do drive the thing very hard as far as street use goes, so I can’t be too mad stuff is needing replacing constantly as I really enjoy driving it. If I were to buy another vette it would either have to be stock and have somewhat extensive maintenance records or be modded nicely with super low miles (mine was modded with high miles). I keep telling myself it will be finished and not be a project but I know it will always need to be worked on if I keep driving it how I do
Like to hear more about storage choirs as my 93 C4 sits in Garage. Thanks for the clarification another Great video
Priceless counsel! Best auto advice since Gerald Celente said of investments: "If you don't hold it, you don't own it."
Damn you are so spot on! I wish you were in California and not just Florida!
"And there's C4s, there in their own category, we'll get to them."
Lyle never gets to them. 😁
Oh, they are getting their own Very Special Episode--just like in the 80's when Family Ties would address serious topics/problems. :) Lyle
Thanks Lyle
Thank you for the great work you do!
You mentioned the ECBM issue on 97-00 C5s. An individual on Corvette Forum gives instructions on replacing the ECBM on early C5s with one from a later model C5. Could you comment on this conversation sometime? Appreciate all your knowledge and videos. Keep up the great work!
Ken, I have had several requests to cover this topic and will look deeper into it for a future video. I know guys have done it successfully and documented their experiences on the forum, like you said. Stay tuned! :) Lyle
Great advice my man!
I'm a fan of Haggerty for insurance 👍👍
Your video was right on the money.Everything you put out there is so true.Thanks
Great channel
That's my 2001. I've had it 12 years. First big bill was slave cylinder blowout (add clutch and pilot bearing). Next was harmonic balancer (went ahead and did valve and valley covers). This time it wants a LOT of money. Oil pan seal, oil pump, ps rack leak, failing lifter and worn cam. Every 4 years it had required a sacrifice. But they're fun cars!
You are so right about maintenance. And the car sitting there, and the next time you know something's broke on it, i've got four C threes, And it seems like every time I drive them, when I park them, I get back in them two or three days later, maybe a week. There's something wrong with it. Then Pour more money in it. I can do the work myself. But it's more work than enjoyment. So buy a good one from the get go.
This is excellent advice!
I’m in my late 50’s and drive a Mazda Miata, somehow I think many of us gradually fall into the Porsche or Corvette world. This was an interesting video.
HI Lyle this may be a situation that you may already know but it was a big problem for me my 98 would shut down while I was driving I would pull over put in park it would fire up. So when the event at carlsle the past summer offered diagnostic service I made appointment to have it looked at tech from corvette found problem, he said the key was worn and said I might need new switch, and said the key was losing contact in switch and system would shut down, so I went home and switched keys spare was like new and removed other items on key ring so only the key is in switch and haven't had any problems since.
We found much more friendly to remove front window rather the whole dash for HUD repairs or add on.. love your show....
C6 z51 black. So far i replaced the radiator, starter, water pump, harmonic balancer, wiring harness, headlights, torque tube, rear main seal, oil pump, shocks, engine gaskets, steering wheel, stereo, rotors and it was worth every penny.
I was a parts guy for a dealer that owned a BMW 633CSI Alpina grey market car. Very clean and low mileage. Some miscreant took a screwdriver to the ignition lock cylinder and cut the S1800 Italian leather steering wheel in the process. So add criminal activity to your list of possible expenses when considering your purchase of a vehicle.
Again great informative video. All you say is so true. Only wishing I could have a Corvette extra money account for future expenses. That’s the tough part. I deal with each issue as it comes. So far it’s been what I could handle. Mine is a ‘98 and my fear is that part that cannot be fixed or replaced. The EBCM I believe it’s called. I hear and see so many videos about it and it scares me . What does your shop do with a customer that brings in one with this problem? Thank you as always.
1996 C4 guy, I'm that small percentage. Mine is a daily driver, not cherry, but reliable and fun to drive.
Great Stuff, as always! Thanks Lyle!
Great video Lyle, I’m about six months into my ownership of a 2009 3LTZ 51 Corvette on the second owner and I have money set aside I know that I’m going to have to spend money for things like tires and brakes so your advice is spot on.
I would like your opinion on one thing, I’ve never believed in aftermarket warranties. For a 09 Corvette with 59,000 miles would you consider an aftermarket warranty a good or a bad proposition to offset those huge things like the ABS module or the torque tube.
James, the key with aftermarket warranties is making sure to read the fine print below the fine print....Make sure that the things you are trying to protect yourself against are ABSOLUTELY covered by that poilicy, and that you get to choose who does the work. Beyond that, I think it is a wise investment. Lyle
Also own an '09. Would not waste a dime on any warranty. Bought tires for $1,000 last year. Brake work is not that expensive. Have your brakes bleed, change air filter, clean MAF and throttle body that are all easy to do and inexpensive. Enjoy!
AVOID THOSE CRAPPY after market warranties!!! Friend of the family that works at a dealership for used cars said even the BEST RATED ones are garbage and NOT WORTH THE MONEY!!!
Turned 50, always wanted one so I picked up a 98 convertible. Living in Canada means you need a place to store it in the winter, also a reliable winter car.. I’ve had it 8 years and it’s my regular vehicle all summer long. By the way, I pay 48 bucks a month, year round and it’s insured replacement value is20k. Haggerty is the only company you should insure your Vette
Love the ‘delayed repair bill’ theory. Actually it’s not a theory, it’s true!
Hello sir , I love your show thank you.
I’m from Chicago and I have my C5 anniversary .I bought it 2 yrs ago .during winter I have it my garage not heated but double cover from Chicago weather.
My question is should I start my car and run it for 45 minutes.? I appreciate your response and Thank you in advance..
Jul .
Julio im in the same boat. I have an 84 that i have in my garage. Garage isn't heated but it's not really feasible to drive it right now with snow, but i have heard just starting it and letting it run isnt what i should do. After what Lyle said, im kinda lost on what to do.
Turn it on every Monday for 10 mins. I barely drive mine
And every C4 owner is currently thinking "We get our own episode? F#@%." 😆
9 years of owning my 01 c5 balancer and auto transmission internal harness . Rear wheel bearings. Tune up. $2500 total. Very inexpensive fun weekend cruiser.
spot on... i have a 79..... what can go wrong... will go wrong
Haha, spot on with the older cars on everything said.
Great advice!
Lyle - you are brilliant! Thank you for all you do!
Greetings Lyle from Oregon
That "set aside $1500 a year" line scares me... I have had my C6 for almost 15 years and my biggest repair was replacing a Catalytic Converter this spring.
So what about the C4?
Dont!!!
I am thinking about buying a C5 coup. I would be keeping it on the street, though. However, the prices and what you get for $20k is such a better deal than half the new cars I see all over my neighborhood.
This especially for the c4’s. Personally I own a 35th anniversary corvette. Car has 127k on it. When it was delivered from a large very dishonest dealer up north. The car was a basket case. Radiator was bad to the point it was overheated off the trailer. A/c didn’t work or heat. Radio was aftermarket and hacked in. Alternator went out. Radio mast didn’t work. Back lights on the cluster were out. Head light motors needed work with the pellets.plus a lot more the other day I had to spend 10 hours chasing a short down. Honestly if you are good with cars and enjoy working on the a c4 is an amazing experience however if not skip the c4 and go straight towards a c5 or c6
It’s true the car knows when the budgets tight!!
Magnetic ride shocks to be done on my 2003 c5 . Guess ill be doing my own work, the new shocks were extremely expensive but thats part of the adventure of owning a old car.
Great and true advice.I found that a poorly maintained Vette was like dominoes. When one thing "broke," then something else went.This is a must-see video.
Edit: Find a mechanic that knows the beast.The corner mechanic might be a good guy, but replacing parts until he/she finds the problem; ultra expen$$$$ive.
I had Hagerty and switched to Grundy because it was a load cheaper. I got my '68 Corvette because my friend blew the engine and need a daily driver so I swapped him my '75 Chevy Monza. I had a rebuilt 454 from my '65 Malibu SS and swapped it into the Vette.
Hi Lyle. 'Collector' car insurers will not generally insure a car unless you have another car/truck that is your PRIMARY driver.
It's hard to believe how maintenance free my 2000 has been. 149000 and runs like new. It is garaged, and I use it in the winter when the roads are dry.
Lyle, you have said it before but didnt hear you say this time, even if the car is only 10k now, it requires service of a 50k sports car. Cheap purchase price doesnt mean cheap maintenance cost.
Thanks!
So true . Bought a c6 and needed 500 battery cable,shifter . Love it but there's always something. Harmonic balancer first think I looked at.