Logitech MX Vertical - Living With a VERTICAL Mouse
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- The Logitech MX Vertical is an interesting mouse that puts ergonomics over some functionality. But is it any good or are there too many sacrifices?
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what no RGB? how am i suppose to win at cs:go?
You can't RGB =skills
I'm disappointed aswell I can't take the risk getting this!
Damn me too, rgb has given me the reason of my life
These jokes are no longer funny
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You do 6IX9INE haircut? Needing a non G mouse?
I have an Anker wireless vertical mouse and it has been great in the months I've had it. I got it after I had surgery done on my wrist and after a few days of getting use to it my wrist/elbow feel much better. The sensor is mediocre so I still use my G402 for gaming, but it's good enough for most routine task. Very good value for $20.
Vertical mice literally changed my life. Wrist strain is almost non existent an the learning curve on how to use one is not that long. It's basically second nature now. When I would edit on a traditional mouse for long hours, I would get hand cramps and wrist strain all the time. Highly recommend vertical mice.
What kinds have you used? Have any recommendations for something with a third button? I’ve been adding Blender animation to my video production skill set.
I have the MX Master 2s, I've been eyeing these vertical mouses, as I am on a computer 9 hours a day, and im really interested in trying one.
I also have that mouse. Light Grey/White
Egg
Anker has one for 20 bucks, you can try it and maybe upgrade if you really like it
I tried the MX Master, worst mouse I've tried ergonomically. Even a G502 is a massive improvement. Try the G603 if you want a good wireless mouse with good ergonomics. Only downside is it doesn't have hyper scrolling.
@@Drinkyoghurt mx master 2 x is a heavy brick .. weight is the key for comfort ... the vertical one is heavy too .. idk but these are failures of a mouse for me if you are power user... 80 - 110 grams .. no more ( mx master is 170g ...) ..
Switching to a vertical mouse has relieved so much wrist pain I used to have. I have issues with my wrists from my younger days using the palm of my hand as a hammer. I used to only be able to use a computer for about an hour at a time or so, before some major wrist pain set in, now I can use a computer all day without feeling any pain caused by the odd position that a typical (horizontal) mouse causes.
I have bought 4 cheap ones (Delux M618), and use them everywhere, home, work, shop (soon to be in my garage) and one that I take with me, if I need to use my laptop for extended periods. I haven't had any problems with them, though my first one, that I've been using for about 3 years now or so, is MAYBE showing some signs of wearing out.
Vertical mouse is one of the best computer related purchases I've made.
It looks super comfortable, makes my wrist feel better just looking at it.
Use the ANKER version. I love it. It's cheap. It's great for productivity. I use a mouse at work 4-8 hours a day. My hand was cramping on a normal mouse. I use a Logitech gaming pro mouse at home for gaming. Switching back and forth feels very natural for me.
I bought the MX Master 2S right before they announced the MX Vertical, so I'm not really willing to switch now. I'm really looking forward to a potential MX Vertical 2 (or S) that has a similar feature set to the Master 2S - the same sensor, hyperscrolling, vertical scroll and gestures, because that would be the bomb.
Five years later and I'm still waiting for that MX Vertical 2.
I have an ancient Logitech hyperscrolling enabled mouse that was on the cheap side back then, and I can give the wheel a spin in pretty much any mouse orientation, so that's definitely not an issue.
Furthermore, I think every mouse manufacturer should contemplate making mice with this kind of a scrolling wheel mechanism. It's super convenient.
I just got my Logitech MX Vertical and I want to make sure it can plugin into my Macbook Pro that only has USB-C ports. It wasn't clear in the video.
I have the Delux vertical mouse with a rest for the side and back of your palm that moves with the mouse and eliminates your hand dragging on the desktop. I have large hands and would like it a lot more if it was 20% bigger. However that is its only flaw for me. It works very well and has stopped my hand from going to sleep and my shoulder from aching after hours of gaming as happens with a normal mouse. It is also about a quarter of the price of the Logitech.
Enjoyed the quality of the review.
Enjoyed how soothing his voice is.
Enjoyed the lack of background music.
I broke my wrist 8 weeks ago. I have always used the Apple Magic Mouse but in this case, I had to change. I bought 3 mice (Vertical, Ergo Plus & Master 3) and have spent a few days testing all 3. I really liked all of them but the Ergo Plus added more stress to my hand and wrist after the surgery. I liked the Master 3 but the two flywheel's drove me crazy. But it moved great across surfaces. In the end I had to keep the Vertical because it honestly put the least amount of stress on my hand and wrist. I would say that if you have hand problems you have to spend time with all of them just to see what will work best.
I'm using the original MX Master at work and at home. I was looking forward to the release of the MX Vertical release but was disappointed to see that the MX Vertical doesn't have the gesture thumb button. Using this to switch screens all day and would love to see this button on a future revision!
I used the MX Vertical for a couple weeks and my thumb has started hurting pretty bad. gripping/pinching to hold on to the mouse.
I just don't understand how it's like $100! It's just a different shell shape!
Disappointed cause I wanted to replace my MX Master with this.... But it also has less features than the MX Master to make it worse.
Inelasticity of demand mainly. Also, this is a mouse directed to the older generations, some features might even be less desired (vertical scroll wheel etc.) or are just not worth the production cost because again, inelasticity of demand
New tooling and a molds were probably used, not to mention the design of the PCB and the buttons had to changed in order to accommodate the new shape. If demand rises for this kind of mice, you can expect to be priced lower.
Anker has a similar concept for 20 bucks, you could look into that
@@SaschaEderer I don't have problems with the lack of those features by itself. It's the lack of those features at $100 that I don't think is reasonable.
@@julian23561 I agree that there needs to be new design and mold, but Anker is able to make a similar mouse at 1/5 of the cost. Yes, it's cheaper feeling, but the MX vertical doesn't feel it function 5x better... Just my opinion
They may not have put more items for the thumb area for ergonomic reasons. I've found I've had issues with my thumb and the trackball mouse - so for me its good to give the thumb less functions to use
big fan of your work, Eber!!
I currently have Microsft's Sculpt Mouse. I'm debating whether to switch to this Logitech one. What do you think? Please advise. Similarities and differences. I have both Microsoft keyboard and Logitech one, so universal usb is no issue for both. Just wanting to see which mouse works better.
Been testing out a lot of mouse devices to see which one best fits for what I do on a daily basis. So far, the MX Master has been working great for me. Especially in video editing with that sweet side scroll. :)
Feels like they should have the scroll wheel on the thumb, and be a primary wheel too. You could definitely have the infinite scrolling feature there too…
You guys straight up have the BEST VIDEO INTRODUCTION FOR THE PRODUCTS IN STARTING OF THE VIDEO. And I love it. Gives such a cinematic profile to the video. Keep up the good work.
Does anyone know what background music they are using? I'm digging it.
I've adopted a somewhat odd grip over time. My hand doesn't sit in a flat orientation, instead I have something between a palm and claw grip with my hand rotated outward slightly.
How does it compare to the MX Master for gaming? The mx master seems to track pretty well and not too much perceivable latency for me.
great review (as always), I've never had any issues on wrist pain when mousing until I switched to a standing desk. Even though my arm angle is the same, without the elbow support of a chair, I've noticed some wrist discomfort in my mouse arm. I was thinking about picking up the Logitech MX Vertical, now I'm looking at other alternatives (cheaper)
Hopefully they'll give it more features on it's sucessor, I like the ergonomics idea, I even remember putting it in the cart or at least thinking about it, before I bought an MX master 2s
I've been using a vertical mouse for abut a year now, and I will never go back. I use a 25 dollar Anker mouse and it works just fine.
Can u pls tell What are cheaper working alternatives to this...
Does it work for mac? buttons are customizable in mac too?
I have an MX Master and I love the fast scrolling wheel and the thumb buttons. You've convinced me not to switch.
Why couldn't they put the HERO sensor in this, from the G305 and G603? Since the laser sensor isn't Darkfield, it cannot track on glass, which puts it in the same boat as the G series mice.
Because Logitech G (gaming division) and LOGI (consumer division) dont talk to each other...
-D.
@@HardwareCanucks Haha. It's still a better love story than Twilight ;)
A friend of mine got a cheaper model a while ago (may have been the Anker) and it was surprisingly comfortable. Good design idea
LOGITECH PLEASE GIVE US A GAMING VERTICAL MOUSE!!!!!!!!!
greentrigger no
@@Aikano9 yes
Id buy a vertical g600
I want to get this so badly for gaming but the price tag and low response time really kills it for me.
I've been using a unimouse for gaming lately, its vertical angle is adjustable and it comes wired and wireless with a Pixart PMW 3330 optical sensor, so it tracks just as good as my g900....only issue is the side button placement.
I know this review is a bit old, but is it possible to 'click' or 'press' the scroll wheel sideways? So, not just down like a regular button, but also to the sides. My current Logitech has it and I've mapped some functions to it I use a lot and I'd reaaally like this one to have it as well. Many thanks in advance :)
Can you help me find one for glass mousepad? I am absolutely desperate to find one that’s perfect for what I do, I use 400 dpi a lot and I have been searching forever and haven’t found anything that is what I am looking for.
Is this better for 3d designer and vfx artist. Who uses for 3d softwares, adobe etc
Does it have quite clicks?
They should put more macro keys on it, considering how many more surface than other normal mouse. If so, it would a excellent replacement of g602.
They should also make it the heavy scroll wheel they put in the Master, as well as a horizontal scroll wheel.
I have been looking for a mouse like this one from Logitech for some time now. Thank you for reviewing it. Concern is, will they add that additional scroll wheel on the update?
You can configure the side buttons with copy paste ... ??
I was waiting for a quality vertical mouse like this one
Does anybody who has the Mx2s have the same issue with feeling the battery moving around inside the mouse when moving really fast? Or is mine just broken?
Any chance you could do a review of the Evoluent vertical mice? The wireless ones especially. I've been using a cheap Anker for years now, and I'm wondering if it's worth buying a more expensive one. And, for anyone thinking about a vertical mouse, try one of the cheap ones. I spent $20 on my Anker, and it's helped a lot. I can't really imagine going back to a normal mouse.
I’ve started developing wrist problems and this mouse definitely helps. Super light weight and you’ll get used to it in a few minutes. I do wish it had the hyper scroll though. I do think it is expensive for what you get. I paid the higher price over other brands because I trust Logitech.
It looks like it would definitely be more comfortable than a traditional mouse, however I have a very pronounced pisiform bone and it feels like turning my palm in a more natural position like this mouse does would actually put more weight/strain on that bone, and it's already constantly bruised from all the brushing against the mousepad.
is there a left hand version ?
Are you guys having stiff/shoulder pain after using mouse clicking all day everyday? I really want to try this mouse but I'll wait the price goes down
It's been all over their homepage for so long i have the g403 btw
Does someone know a good and cheaper alternative that truly works? The price for this mouse is way too much and I can’t afford ATM because of the exchange rate of the moment.
That sounds good, thanks for sharing! Although I'm still happy with my Master MX 3, it's very interesting.
I bought one but ended up returning it because my hand kept sliding down, despite the grippy-ish surface, so I would constantly have to lift it back up- otherwise my finger would not reach the button. I also knocked it down a few times as I was not used to having such a tall mouse whenever I was reaching for it. I really wanted to like it but it just didn't work. Ended up buying Logitech MX Master 2S and it is so much more comfortable.
I used an MX Master 2, and it kicked the bucket after several years of hard use with a number of different computers.
I’m a Mac user now, and when the time came to get a new one I considered the MX Vertical and the MX Master 3. I got so used to the gesture button for Mission Control on my Mac that I bought the Master 3 without a thought, because more than the horizontal scroll wheel I was convinced I needed the gesture button.
I do wish I could get a more ergonomic shape (particularly for my ring and pinky fingers which sort of just hang off the side) with all the features I want, but the MX Master 3 is basically the only option unless I wanted to use the Magic Trackpad. If the Vertical had a gesture button, chances are pretty good I would have gotten that instead.
Do you after an year of use recommend this mouse considering your pinky still hang off of it? I feel it's an inconvenience specially for a longer time use and you kind of wished it was shorter so your pinky could rest too? I also wanna know if the thumb is in resting position while use or you have to lift thumb a little up too to operate it?
Thanks
Is pointer speed really the same as DPI level?
Are the buttons programmable?
Solved my discomfort and pain between my middle and ring finger using a MS Arc mouse all day in WFH, but after 2 days of use with the Logi MX vertical, I've developed a blister on my wrist down from my pinky finger...moving around the table surface. Anyone else have this irritation?
Esse é o melhor review que eu vi, Obrigado. Abraços do Brasil .
I've had an MX Vertical for just under two years. The left button is failing, effectively making it impossible to click and drag. The buttons feel pretty cheep and so whilst it's really disappointing, it's not really a surprise it failed so early.
Cool, Logitech is now renewing that lineup! Also, intro music is awesome. What's the track?
Since I use my mouse claw style and with my fingers not flat with my palm touching it, I'm also not putting strain on my wrist with normal mice. I can half my wrist angled and still use my mouse normally. Trying to have my wrist flat just now made me realize I never have my wrist flat or in an uncomfortable position. $$$ saved.
If that featured customisable or even a basic array of buttons around the thumb, maybe. I have a gaming mouse and use so many profiles I don't think I could go back. Even just web browsing would be a slightly less streamlined experience without the functions of my existing mouse (Roccat Nyth).
Has the sensor a red light in this mouse?
Like that but with 6 thumb buttons and free scroll+horizontal wheel clicks and I'm sold.
Would love to see a gaming orianted version of this, maybe with more buttons.
I have had my MX master s2 for a year now. been using with for content creation and yes, gaming competitively.
but im starting to have wrist and elbow problem.
im so used to the hyper scrolling...so im just going to get this mouse just for the sake of my health.
HELL YEAH IM GOING TO GAME WITH THIS TOO
I've always wanted a gaming vertical mouse with a 3360 based sensor, they look like something I would like
Me too, but the shape seems inherently flawed. The bottom should be much narrower and the top wider so the hand just sits in it allowing for easy lifting and moving with just the finger tips. Scroll wheel could be placed for the thumb. Maybe alternatively a coolie hat switch? I think this could work, but i have yet to find one like that.
@@fetB Agreed, it's probably really heavy too, with all that extra body. Still, I'd love to try something experimental like that
I love all logitech mx mouses, most elegent mouses in the world! and the "free wheeling" in mx master is so cool to boost productivity for me, hope they can make it intergrated in all mx mouses!
if they do anouth one of these, the should add gestures (with pop up that comes up whenever you hold the button) and a horizontal scroll wheel instead of the buttons
Hmm, I can’t say I’m a fan of the vertical thing... Excellent video btw, top quality content!
I’ve been a loyal MX Master user since early 2014, mine looks super worn out now which makes it feel so much more personal to the point where I didn’t really want to upgrade to the slightly updated Master 2S when it came out, all I’m really missing out on is the flow feature and some fresh colours, I’ll wait until there’s an actual physical change.
My worn MX Master just feels like an old friend when I hold it, I’ve worn those fancy shapes on the gesture button smooth to the point where my thumb has its own notch to rest in, the clickers have shiny smooth patches where my fingers click, and the top of the mouse is super shiny from use, that might irritate some people but I quite like it, it feels so personal now I’d be heartbroken if this mouse ever died on me.
Companies such as Corsair need to do a vertical gaming mouse (I have Corsair only peripherals and many of my PC parts are from them too at least one item from each category of product they sell and this is good for use in iCUE where I can sync lighting profiles with all my stuff) and as a person who probably spends most of their home time (not including my 8-10 hours of daily sleep and yes I do have a regular day job but when I am home most of the time is spent sleeping or at my desk either watching videos/movies or playing games which I can do on my PC I don't really watch TV or use my phone much at home) it would make sense
I bought this mouse today and thought it was wonderful - but im still returning it.
The one thing that I truly cannot let go of now in my work flow is Logitech's Hyperscrolling feature. I've been using an MX Master for the past few years, and the scrolling is a godsend. This mouse does not have that, so I guess it's time to buy an MX Master 3.
What is the mouse weight?
The anker ergonomic mouse from amazon is amazing. Better than a $100 mouse i used to have, go try that one everyone...it is only $20! You are welcome.
I've been using the Anker for almost two years now. I've got two of them, one for work and the other for home and the annoying issue is that they tend to creak over time and the buttons have developed a weird crackly click sound which is super unsatisfying.
Anyone else having problems with Anker? 6 months with no issues so far.
@@h6h6productions19 it's known to have poor switches and there's a guide online on how to replace them with Omron ones. I'll probably do that soon but I guess nothing can be done about the body creaking.
just get a new one for Christ's sake spending 20 bucks every two years on a mouse wont kill anyone
@@saibgassanov3378 I use two, so $40 bucks on a mouse which starts giving trouble after 6 months isn't very ideal.
Getting a vertical mouse soon, though being left handed, I use my right for mouse and my left when using my pc tablet.
This versus the MX Ergo? It will be quite a match
To anyone interested in vertical mice - do check out the Microsofct Sculpt Ergonomic. The whole set is great, but the mouse is *the* most ergonomic mouse I have ever used. Based on my experience with other vertical mice, I would guess it's also more comfortable than this Logitech. Would love to hear from anyone who has used both, though!
Disclaimer: at one point I got to horrible wrist and elbow pain and started trying out vertical mouse, and the MS one was the first one that alleviated all of the pain over time. I have since started using a "normal" mouse again, for gaming regularly. I think the combination of two helps a lot, one for work, the other for gaming.
I just bought the MX Vertical at Staples. I like it so far but I have large hands and it fits nicely. Still trying to figure out those 2 buttons on the top left side though. Also I'm on Mac. Been using Apple's Magic mouse for a long time and that think sometimes has a mind of its own. Pages slide out and a host of other sloppy problems. Main thing is I can't connect via Bluetooth. I'm in touch with Logitech for help. Right now Using the USB which is great. Charging the magic mouse is on the bottom so no mouse while charging. this MX still works. How Cool is that?
Im not a gamer but I do some CAD designs for my 3D printer; so far is seems to work well for me.
How do you feel for 3d. I m looking to get for 3d works. Please advice. I mainly use c4d and adobe.
Update. Both my MX Mouse and MX Keys were returned as junk. My Opinion only! I just couldn't get them to work right with my iMac. good thing I bought the extended warranty. got all m money back. Right now I'm back to Apple's magic mouse and my wired keyboard.
You should try out the MX Ergo next. It's a trackball mouse from Logitech
Second video I watch and deserves a sub, very good content
Congrats 1million 🎉🎉🎉
If only MX Vertical has horizontal scroll it would be perfect in my opinion. Horizontal scroll very helpful for scrolling spreadsheet document.
Used vertical mice before, tried most of what was available two-three years ago from the cheaper options.
This is definitely a cheap move from logitech. Instead of adding all that you mention like the extra scroll, buttons, or even side customising options (to adjust for different hand shape/size), they just made the most basic version they can, and priced it way too high.
Sorry, for that amount, there are Evoluent who have more experience in ergonomics.
Hope Logitech gets it together for a v2 (love most of their products, just not this one).
Did you even try the Evoluent ones? The precision is just terrible. Worked with some evoluent mice for two a years and was so happy with this one from logitech. "Evoluent has more experience with ergonomics" Logitech knows how to built a propper mouse. I don't get the hate around this one. Here in the Netherlands the Evoluent mice are more expensive then this one btw..
@@b.pelgrum5580 No hate. I have mostly used and use a Logitech mouse. And that's exactly why I think they could have at least added some extra button/feature to this one.
Did not know about Evoluent problems. Glad you brought that up, so now I can avoid spending money blindly.
Oddly enough, currently using Logitech G305, and while it's not "ergonomic", the size and weight just makes it so easy to use.
@@JanisVeide Ah oke, didn't want to flame on your comment btw. But I've tried the Evoluent 3, 4 and C.. all of them didn't work for me. But I've heard some other people that are very happy with the evoluent ones. So I guess it comes down to personal preference. If you want one, try one first fro a couple of weeks (you can try mine if you want :p). I do agree on the lack of functionality, I guess I was so stoked on the overall performance and feel of the MX vertical I didn't miss those features. I'm dealing with RSI for over 5 years now and this one finally works for me. We'll see if the MX vertical 2 will add extra functionality.
out of the ones youve tried, which would you say is the best overall?
What is the intro song name?
Oh man what is that music in the b roll? It’s so good
Excellent review! :)
is it bad that I want it for playing moira in overwatch
well, i think its time for me to get it. 2 times went to rheumatologist cause i spend a long time doing graphic designing with the MX master 2.
Can this connect to Android phones, ie Galaxy S21 Ultra?
Hoping a more professional, fully featured version of the MX Vertical will be available sometime soon
Glad that they had an ergonomic one, i had 3 surgeries in my wrist is the microsoft one that came with their ergo keyboard. Until today I have save a lot of money back to doctor for new appointments and a lot of pain.
This mouse, no doubt is a lifesaver for those with actual RSI issues.
I have a vertical mouse knocking around here somewhere... the Evoluent Vertical Mouse from ages ago..
I have big hands, but inspite of that, I still think the best mice Logitech have made is the 'anywhere' for, erm, anything, and the 'G9x' for gaming. Modestly sized as they are, they still feel a delight in use. Else, for me my primary and preferred is a big trackball.
It should have all the functions as the mx 2 with this shape. Then it would be a worthy buy!
Prolly shouldnt use it to play quake right?
I tried this mouse and it works great, on top of that I was happy that with this mouse I could use the same receiver as my keyboard, the problem however is that it is HUGE! My hand keeps falling off and I can't reach the buttons well. Logitech please make a smaller version like eg Evoluent which also has different sizes. I am obligated to use a cheap Chinese one now, which works ok, but isn't great.
7:47 Eber with the sick burn :D
This'd be a godsend for CTS affected users but would be horrible for gaming.
julian23561 I tried this exact mouse a while ago and if you're a sniper, it's actually a reasonably okay mouse. But yeah it is very clearly not a gaming mouse.
I love this mouse and have been using it for 5 years now with no problem in the mouse or my wrist!
Best designed ERGO mouse ever from logitech!
It's really sad that this mouse cannot really keep up with the master 2s.
I would have liked if it had a touchpad in the place for the thumb for gestures like switching between desktops.
The lack of the typical logitech scroll wheel is also a bummer. I am sure it would have been possible.
The last little annoyance is the software. It is most certainly windows only.
I had the anker vertical mouse 3-4 years ago, but i lost the reciever maybe a week after i got it, so never got to really use it.
Edit: Just found the mouse in my drawer and it surprisingly comfortable. It's a little to big for my hands, and I still don't have the reciever :p
Edit 2: The scroll wheel looks really wobbly on you master 2s. On my regular master it's almost 100% balanced.
2:47
that is what I am looking for :) thank you