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Suikoden II - The Best RPG You Never Played
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- Опубликовано: 9 май 2023
- Hey welcome back everyone, today we're talking about a real gem of a game. Suikoden II for the PlayStation 1 and why I think it is a must play RPG for the system. Hope you enjoy!
RIP Murayama-sensei, the creator of Suikoden just passed away today, only a few months before the release of his newest game. He will be remembered as an RPG icon.
Omg I had no idea, rip you giga chad!
You did not even mention the best part of the game, which is the story, it’s such a personal human drama between the main characters but told in such a grand scale, with waring nations, monsters and power beyond imagination in the form of runes, they managed to find the perfect balance, making the game always feel grounded. It’s one of my favorites from any fiction ever!
Truly great story and worth paying attention to while playing
and there are still many stories and mysteries in this series that will not be revealed...
What a pity...
He’s avoiding spoilers that’s why
He’s avoiding spoilers that’s why
@@j0nnyism i mean the konami, they stop development of suikoden series
Granny will always let you know your next objective. She's very important. The backbone of the group.
I LOVED Army Battles, I even had a memory Card with different save slots for every battle, and replay them because I geniuenly enjoyed them :D
Just remembered, You could personalize every battalion, and depending on who you put the battalion won "skills" and I can't remember now, but I think it was something like Magus>Horses>Infatry.
@ricoselkum. No, the rock paper scissors were from Suikoden 1.
That said, I have never liked war games in any of the Suikoden games. The ONE thing I don't like from them.
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Suikoden II is the best game for my life forever.
I always love seeing suikoden get more acknowledgment. I played 2 like 3 times and it’s fun every time
Awesome video!!! More people need to play this game !!!
Though kinda disagree with Army Battle opinion, i think its essential since the game background was war, and its kinda easy after you figure it out and i love it. Also the fact some characters can die on the battle when their unit get wiped out make me think that this mini game not an after thought like you said.
And you can recruit Templeton (map guy), after you relocate to Muse City, like 3 or 4 hours into the game.
I agree with all of this...poster should have maybe played through it a few times cuz it's not as simple as this review makes it out to be
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Suikoden II truly is a hidden gem! I couldn't agree more with your insights on this underrated RPG. The depth of the narrative and the portrayal of war in the game are truly remarkable. Thanks for shedding light on this classic. Can't wait to dive back into this masterpiece!
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Well said
I’m so pumped that we get suikoden remaster, as well as the original creators are making a new ip, good times.
Suikoden II has the best story that I ever played, the plot is thick
and luca blight still the best antagonist on RPG history for me
Never played?!?!!?!
I was a Suikoden super fan back in my teens and 20s. I've replayed Suikoden 2 more times than I can count. Hell, I've done a 108 Stars run quick enough to also complete Clive's sidequest the same playthrough.
...but I guess I am an old millennial, and many zoomers probably never even owned an original PSX, much less played Suikoden 2, so fair enough. Spread the love!
Not a lot of us sadly. Most jrpg fans don’t know about the series, let alone the other players.
I'm the only person I know who owns any of the games from the series, I still feel it is the greatest RPG series of all time, I have all five numbered titles, as well as tactics, all still in great condition. It's such a hard series to get new players into, thanks to the high cost of the games, hopefully the remasters will solve that problem though.
Yeah I bought them when they were released and I have more hours logged on this game than ALMOST any other.
Don’t downplay zoomers. Some of us actually like old JRPGs because some of us still grew up on many of them lol
When my kids were younger, they would help me create the dishes for the chef cookoff (ahem, Iron Chef). We had a great time and this is my favorite JRPG. Can’t wait for the remaster.
excellent video,about the part of being lost about not knowing what to do,currently there is something that serves as a quest log,the granny that you recruit for the castle tells you where you have to go if you forget,but it has the same problem as In the case of the map,you only recruit grandma after 12 to15 hours of play,that is,if you get lost before that,it's complicated,but suikoden 2 is incredible, it's the best RPG both in technical terms and in history
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Yup
Jokes on you. I playthrough S2 every year as a tradition.
I assume that once I have beaten it 108 times that my passing into the afterlife will be in full color.
Bro, not only have I played it, but I've completed it more times than you have years xD. 1&2 is an absolute masterpiece, with each playthrough I discovered something new (character, hidden quest, scene). An epoch-making work of art. Already ordererd Eyuden.
Every video that someone makes about my favorite videogame I consume immediately, it's like the favorite difficult food to make, it's prepared very rarely but I enjoyed every second
2 is amazing, but if you feel that it is your favorite, I strongly suggest you play 3, at least as good as 2, and doesn't get the recognition that it deserves.
Finally. A suikoden video thats NOT from Eric Landon.
I used to play suikoden 1 & 2 back when I was a kid! It was definitely a wild ride. I love the music, characters, and the story.
Sounds like a promising game. I DO love an old fashioned diabolical villain. Thanks for the recommendation.
I can second almost everything he said, it's one of the best games of all time IMO
suikoden 2 is a masterpiece, but I personally feel suikoden 3 is considerably better.
But since it was made in 90s it lack quality of life features in modern games just keep that in mind.
Suikoden 1 & 2 will always be in my top 10 best game i've ever played
The GOAT of jrpg i feel sorry for anyone who never played this masterpiece
Its mid
@@Ehrle6969 youre mid
Psycomantis saying that I like Suikoden scared me SO MUCH. I wasn’t expecting it and it was my favorite game ever.
What's funny is I remember wayyyyy back when you had to rent games from a video store, I rented this game for the OG Playstation because the game I was wanting at the time hadn't been returned yet. I didn't think I would be very interested in it but my dad was rushing me so I just picked it because the cover art looked interesting. I absolutely fell in love with the game and I rented it again in order to try and beat it. I got up to the part where (SPOILER ALERT) your sister can & did die in my game.. and I had to return it. I didn't have the money to rent it again right away so I had to wait a week. In that week someone else rented it and literally never brought it back. I wanted to beat it badly because I was so enthralled with the story, so I went to buy it at EB ..(Electronic Boutique). I was like $10 short, so I went back the next week to buy it and all their stock was gone, I asked the clerk and he said the game had been discontinued or some bs crap.. So I had to beg my parents to please buy a copy of it for me from EBAY which..back then EBAY was a little sketchy.. But they got it for me.. It was the first thing I ever bought from EBAY.. but yeah, I kicked the shit out of the game after that lol.. It was my favorite RPG for a long time, I even liked it more than Final Fantasy 7 for awhile.. But yea..totally great game
Great story.
I still have my playstation copy of suikoden 1 and 2. Can't wait for the remaster. I hope they get a physical release also
I gave up on the zombie dragon in the first game so I started the second.
This is a true CLASSIC in every sense of the word.It's basically Game of Thrones the RPG! It's also similar to Trails of Cold Steel series.
It's a 25 year-old masterpriece that's aged surprisingly well
A 10/10.
That was a serious boss for such early part of the game. I dont know if youre aware that Suikoden 1 & 2 are getting a remastered version soon. Hope you give it another try!
@@fittushattana I'll probably pick it pick it up, since you get two classic games for the price of one, which is a sweet deal.
I'm also very much looking forward to Star Ocean The Second Story R. I played the demo on PS5, which was awesome. I preordered the game (which I hardly ever do).
Reasons to play I first: Don't forget that if you have a Suikoden I save with all characters (at the final save spot), you can then import your main as a hidden recruitable character into Suikoden II.
I’m pretty sure Konami came back to suikoden bc they wanted to take advantage of the spiritual successor game popularity
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We all been wanting a remaster for years, happy it's finally coming.
I'm perfectly fine with that if I get my remasters. Granted I have played Eiuden Chronicles, it does not feel very suikoden like to me. It looks like one, but it doesn't play like it.
Of course. They did it with TMNT.
Suikoden 1 got a darker story and will give you goosebumps sensation when playing Suikoden 2
there is a reminder system. a recruited charater is the old woman and she will tell you wher you need to be
This game changed my life.
I love both Suikoden games and would definitely recommend playing the 1st game before prior to the 2nd. And, like you said, it is short. You can blow through it in a week.
You know what you've sold me on it I'm gonna play it!
Welcome back cheif. Glad to see you back.
Great video and this game definitely seems up my alley. Thanks for recommending it!
Nice to see a new video from you! And on Suikoden no less!
I love Suikoden 2, but there are several RUclips videos explaining all of the merits of it. We need more videos telling how amazing suikoden 3 is, as a result of 2's popularity 3 is far too often overlooked, and my personal opinion is that it is actually better than 2 in many ways. I would be insanely grateful if you could make that video, and share suikoden 3 with potential fans who haven't had a chance to learn about it yet.
I agree. If it weren't for certain things that hold III back, it would be my personal favourite in the series. II has more polish, but III pushed the envelope a bit more. My favourite part of the game is the theatre.
@@PS1Fan1991 the theater is pretty entertaining, it's hilarious to cast Chris as literally any role, because she is just such a bad actor, and how Fred it's so self-centered that he refuses to play any role that isn't himself.
Suikoden 3 is a very bad game, and even according to the script and plot, it loses not only the second part, but also the first one. After a deep friendship tragedy, 3 Suikoden is a shallow matinee anime with underdeveloped characters and poor dialogue. It's more of a bad Final Fantasy called Suikoden.
@@jowy9072 I respectfully disagree. I personally think that it is one of the best JRPGs that I have ever played.
@@jowy9072 strongly disagree, Suikoden 3's story is carefully interwoven between 5 different perspectives, to tell a compelling political drama, in a very interesting way. Your interpretation tells me that either you didn't play the game, or you went into it already convinced that you hate it, which are both terrible ways to aquire a fair evaluation of the game.
I've played literally every JRPG released in the West on every console, and Suikoden 2 is my favourite.
I got that Suikoden dialogue in meta gear solid as a kid, still an incredible and shocking moment thats stuck with me to this day. As did Suikoden 1 and 2. It's the reason I backed Eiyuden Chronicles and am looking forward to the remasters even though I still own a copy of both games in my garage some where.
This game has the best narrative of any RPG I've ever played. I'm so fired up for the Eiyuden Chronicles beta tomorrow.
I am so freaking excited for the remaster of I and II, though I think III is still my favourite 😅
I love everything about this comment, I don't see enough people who recognized the quality of 3.
it's good seeing konami come back to their older franchises, makes me wonder if they'll come back to their racing ones (like GTi Club)
Along with DW(Q) 3, this is my favorite JRPG of all time.
first rpg i played ever , still my favourite till this day , story line is insanely good and the options to change things at the caves
Damn! what a start to playing RPGs. All downhill after this haha!
Same here! This got me to love JRPGs
Tbf. This could be said about the entire series as a whole. The buzz surrounding it, especially when compared to other RPG series, is practically non-existent
Love the battles. The dmg thing can be annoying, but I still remember when I was thrown into one for the first time. There was so much tension in trying to figure out tactics so the characters I liked survived because they could die.
What if i tell you I found a copy of this game a couple months ago at my girlfriends place, played it without ever having heard of the series and fell in love like 10 mins. in? My only regret is failing to get the perfect ending
Thanks for the discovery and the recommandation
The best RPG game ever made.
Period.
I want Sony to make more great pixel art rpg games.
Its mid😂
Oh, I've played it. It's been in my top three video games of all time since release, usually finding itself with the number one spot.
I actually really enjoyed the grand army battles lol
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Loved suikoden 2 and hope the remaster actually releases. Konami is making me nervous with zero communication on updates since delaying the release Last Year!
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I never got to finish this game and I spent forever building up my characters
I got this as a teenager original release!
Still own it to this day!
the only reason why I wishlisted the upcoming Remastered Suikoden I & II because I had a very fun memory with Suikoden V back in PS2, now that I watched your video I pray that the game will launch without any issue on steam and produce a good number of sales to convince Konami to do up until Suikoden V, who knows we might even get Suikoden VI
No boss music slaps like Neclord’s! This is a hugely underrated game and gem of my childhood
The cooking competition is awesome!
Man, that part in MGS freaked me the hell out when I first played it as a kid way back when. I remember turning to my friend saying, “How does it know?!” And just before I went all “the power of Christ compels you!” I looked down and realized my rpg memory card was plugged in and it was reading my memory card save and my idiot 13yo self could only let out a laugh of relief.
But yes Suikoden 2 is phenomenal.
My personal all time favourite game.
Beautiful pixel art. Beautiful story. Great music. Brilliant characters.
The ending was beautiful, the true ending i mean.
Vagrant story, ff7, eternal eyes, azure dreams, ocarina of time, chrono trigger, dragon quest/warrior monsters was all brilliant.... But Suikoden 2 is the Goat. Such a shame the series died off like it did.
bro its been 20 years and noone has thought about creating spinoffs or rebooting suikoden 2. i want to play it longer
I want to mention a couple of details, it is true that getting the cartographer takes time, although the area is quite limited to the point where you get him
And yes there is a mechanic to remember the objective, in addition to going to the main room of the castle, where the story is almost always advanced, one of the characters to be recruited has its only function of reminding you exactly what you should or have pending to do
Tactical battles are not good and hopefully the remake will do something about it
I habe never played this game but I do remember it from some reviews I watched about it when I was a kid. And I always remember this game as the jrpg that you can recruit your own army.
I play Suikoden 2 at least 4 - 5 times every year. I just finished it this morning. With the good ending, of course, all stars recruited.
great video man many ppl should play the game even though its so expensive now a days, i'm so happy played this so long ago back in 2016 and i got memories of it today i wanted to play suikoden 1 first but played 2 first and i was hook on the game i could not stop until i finish it, and i never got back to the series until now starting suikoden one since u can transfer files even in suikoden 3 i notice so t made me want to go back to
Loved Suikoden 1, 2, and 3. It’s still the goat of rpg’s
This game is very famous in the Philippines. A david that stood against a Goliath which is FF8, but in my opinion was way more better in any category. Before I played this game with my friends now I played it with my Daughters 😅
The rts parts were some of my favorite.
I wish they would remaster or re-release this game. I loved playing it so much
Suikoden 2, the only game I have played multiple times approximately 20+ times since childhood can't wait for the remaster and Eiyuden Chronicle
just for your info, there’s this one character whose sole purpose in the game is to tell you what to do next to move the story forward in case you get lost. So the second negative point you raised makes no sense to me tbh.
S2 is LEGEND amongst industry vets.
My favorite RPG ever is Suikoden 2.
Nothing comes close.
Keen for the remaster. I will play S1 when it comes out!
Dad came back with the milk
I am so excited for the Suikoden 1 and 2 remaster... but the UI, the text boxes... they look so Placeholder-y. I hope those get polished up lest they disappoint like the Final Fantasy remasters on, like, iOS and such.
The map rts battles are sick. So are the duels and dice
oh I've played it. Multiple times. One of the all time best!
Brave of you to bring Freed Y lol! Hmm... You can get Templeton right after you enter Muse though
Suikoden 1 & 2 are my two favorite games. I've never played the rest of the games though
Suikoden 1 is the underrated gem sure it had its flaws but unlike 2 the plot doesn't feel as bad in back and forth of "we pushed the enemy way, oh they have come back" and repeat which made the plot feel it was moving slowly, and 1 felt more fantasy like than the human centric 2 i.e elves, kobolds, dwarves. If 1 had the length of 2 and the graphics engine and detail then i'd say 1 would win by a clear shot.
The best rpg I have played countless of times!!
Don't me wrong i love Suikoden 2 but Kefka is the best villain ever. Everything Luka Blight does and how he acts Kefka did first
So true !! At 8:37 I've restarted a couple of times even with a guide book
Played, beat, and got the best ending too.
Great game though beyond doubt.
I hope on the remaster after beating the game there will be an option to play as jowy. Ive played many jrpgs and this is still number 1 for me. Beat it many times and still coming back for more. Everything is a masterpiece especially the story. I just hope konami invest on this series just like how sony invest with their final fantasy franchise.
I have no real arguments for this video, I agree with most of it. But please, anyone reading this, do yourself a favor and if you like Suikoden I and II, give III a shot. To me, III is the definition of a misunderstood, underappreciated game. Even within its own fandom. It's such a great sequel to II, and it ALSO lets you transfer save date from Suikoden II. Meaning, things you did in Suikoden I can effect certain easter eggs/references in Suikoden III. Suikoden I-III really are a cohesive trilogy with a massive payoff if you experience all three games. It's at least worth an experience, despite what many people say.
I'm not saying you'll love it as much as I do, it's literally my favorite game of all time. But, I think it's worth a look to decide for yourself where it stands. I think all the Suikoden mainline games are worth experiencing, even the spin-offs.
Suikoden has one of my favorite fictional worlds ever, and III fleshes out the world better than ever imo. The characters feel so alive and the towns are so vibrant despite the dated systsem it's on. Plus, the shot composition is absolutely phenomenal. I could go on forever, but the cinematography in the cutscenes is really thoughtful and effective. An element in games I feel is overlooked and I think Suikoden III is a masterclass example of how to use the camera to enhance the story being told, whether you realize it or not.
Just go in expecting something different. Something more ambitious. It's not trying to be the same game as I and II. I love I and II, but their design philosophies are so intrinsically linked it's impossible to seperate them. III wanted to try something different. Whether that works for you or not is entirely up to you, and totally okay. I just want more people to try it, because I feel like it's always forgotten, and there are probably a lot of people out there who would really like it if they gave it a chance.
3 is my personal favorite of all the suikoden games. Love the different perspectives and I think the cast of characters (that are at least story relevant) are top tier as well. I’ve played it like 6 times xD
@@superblanco444 Glad to see another III enjoyer! I agree, the cast of characters are really great. The main trio has some of the best party members I've ever seen in an RPG! And there's 4 of them, if you count Thomas. I need to replay it soon!
@KingofHart34 Technically there's five perspectives if you count Luc. If you beat the entire game with all 108 Stars you unlock his story. Absolutely love your little rant here by the way, I fully agree with everything in it, and I've left several quite like it on the bunch of other RUclips videos. Suikoden 3 needs to be played, it's my personal favorite game of all time, and I have the entire suikoden series in my collection.
@@missingLEGACY Yes, for sure, thanks for adding that! I moreso meant that there are essentially 4 main parties, if you count Thomas, and that each of these main parties are super memorable and interesting. Like this game has 4 parties, and there are very few RPGs I've played that I like their SINGLE party as much as I like any of these 4. It's incredible! Chris, while my favorite character, probably has my least favorite party, but I still really like it. Especially when a certain someone joins later on. But Geddoe has my favorite right out the gate. Such fantastic chemistry and diversity in personality and background.
@@KingOfHart34 you're talking about Fred, aren't you? I love to hate that guy. Granted, casting him in any of the plays that can be put on at the castle, is almost always hilarious.
You never played huh, well for 90's and 2000's kid its literally every gamer childhood, its also very popular on rpg community.
Anyways, So excited for the remaster, to reminisce the fun times, also highly recommend it for people who havent played it, this game is a legendary masterpiece, if i could only choose one game to play for the rest of my life it would be suikoden 2.
Recmond and that old lady that sees the future serve as a guide to what to do next if you forgot
I bet this looks great with scanlines.
Best music , story and gameplay in any game.
My local store just got a copy of Suikoden II in and it's priced at $275. I want it so bad but that's such a steep price!
It’ll go down after the remake drops
Still my favorite game after nearly 20 years.
I’ve picked up and stopped playing this game like 3 times. It’s amazing, but I always manage to stop because I lose focus. I’m like halfway through on the playthrough I started and I honestly should just finish it. Played 1 years ago and started 2 years ago as well lmfao
I've played the hell out of suikoden 2, it was amazing. But better if you played suikoden 1 first, which I didn't. I played 2 first and then baught 1 at a pawnshop. I love both of them but 2 is the goat. I played 3 and actually liked it quite a bit. Never played 4 or 5 or tactics cause I had been playing world of warcraft and that sucked me in for quite a long time and console didn't matter after that till I got a ps4.
I still define this game as the best I've ever played despite having played the "Tales Series", "Breath of fire series" and "Ys". I didn't include FF because all it offers is good graphics and super confusing, bland and uninteresting storylines.
Just a couple weeks left for Eiyuden 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤤
I am just past south window and the inventory is way worse in 2 than in 1. I never had to throw things out in 1 because by this point in the game I could teleport back to base at any time and put my stuffnin infinite storage. Here I don't even have a base so have to throw things out constantly my inventory is getting filled with recipes and old books I need.
Hmm. agree, i realy cant think of another 2D game with better animations from that time era. realy looks amazing.
Suikoden 2 and xenogears are the best jrpgs on PS1 for me
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