Thanks for making this video! I haven't read the series. I am only aware of it because I seem to attract guys who love it, so it's been a bit of a red flag for me... watching your analysis confirmed a lot of my suspicions towards the series (and the fanbase), e.g. Aiko sharing the traits of the Manic Pixie Dream Girl concept, even if she is unique as a character. I'll be more careful around these fans, thank you!
I figured when Punpun got his own place, he was slipping into depression because I got the indication that he didn't really want to do anything but be like the old guy that occupied the apartment; to not bother doing anything until he died or killed himself.
If you can relate to Pun Pun, don't try to find love, fix whatever it is you find relatable within yourself before you disappoint the next person you try to "love".
@@tyzer2504bruh wtf is wrong with you, punpun is clearly a psychopath and the manga wasn't even a well written story about a psychopath, how could you possibly relate to him
After reading a lot of analysis based on the author's perspective, I'm so happy to find this video that deals with the psychological side of the story. What a great video man, i just finished Oyasumi Punpun last week and I'm still into it. Hope you create more video like this, it's great content 🍀.
They taught us about the hierachy of needs in my group about trauma and we were identifying which needs were not met in our childhoods bc of abuse. So its really cool to see you mention it
Don't try to find love until you sort yourself out. Pun Pun is an extreme that will disapoint anyone they try to love. Get help on your own or with people you trust before you hurt someone you love with toxic apathy.
He did enjoy Aiko, they were both going in and out of trusting each other because of the circumstances, I belive its one of the few times pun pun is actually happy in the series, when he's hanging out with her and doing her. It's way easier to belive he goes into shock after aiko is owari. They essentially did everything they wanted to do with eachother at that point. Unfortunately everything was already in shambles when they were finally satisfied and ready to look forward. Also Aiko basically got punpun to kill her mom the same way the girl from the clay modeling classes did, they could've just run away, they were both adults. They just let their feelings take over that chapter. Just going back to Aiko's mother was the worst decision in the whole manga.
Just finished it today. I don’t know if I should be concerned for relating to pun pun too much. I felt so “seen” that it make me ball my eyes out on the plane. It’s scary how real the thought he have is close to mine. I don’t have an aiko in my life, but the disgust, the apathy, the hatred, the slugging, and the aimlessness is all far too real. I wonder if this is the eventual path one would take after being completely broken into shambles. There simply isn’t any salvation to be found in the slow burning hell that we live in today. No one bats and eye, and if you are fucked, you are dead as good. Ignorance is bliss. Those who cannot be are sure to be swallowed by the ambyss.
One thing i realized is that all the people who dislike or find Goodnight Punpun disturbing are only because they do not know what exactly disorders feel like, they never had to deal with it. Only those who suffer and fight with their own inside demons every minutes for melancholic disorder knows how much it sucks, they know how suffocating it is to change moods every mins, being unable to get out of this goddam moodiness and worst part is being totally clueless for why all these are happening to them.
I think Oyasumi punpun is overated. The element of how dark and how griping and emotional the story is. I feel as a reader, you read the manga you feel sympathy for punpun early on with how broken but together his family is. He is simply discontent with everything, he wants romance/sex and gets it from midori, nanjou, aiko, soccer chick. Has no problems with friends who genuinely care about him, maybe socialisingin general but has a support network. Made all his decisions, such as leaving his uncles home, staying out of contact with his dad, he should've been going to therapy. Along with all the weird actions inbetween, reading the manga, knowing how well he's doing, academically progressing towards his real estate license. It feels like he's angry that things are fine, that he doesn't have a excuse to abandon everything or wallow in his own mind which he tries so much to do. He then meets Aiko again, his idyllic excuse and an individual so conceited and possessive as he is and saves her by protecting her against her abusive mother. He then feels finally dammed and can now drop all his pretentious nice-guy placated civility. Runs off in a deranged abusive relationship with Aiko, where he tries to embrace his delusional frame that's he's a killer, stringing Aiko along which she wants to but honestly has no choice, thinking of how to dispose of her and himself. At this point Punpun idyllic image of Aiko is ruined and he just sees her as simply a nuisance, they both contemplate disposing each other and the reality of Aiko situation gets the most of her and she commits suicide. Punpun returns home, similar to his uncle, and tries to commit suicide, with his obvious impending future being difficult to determine, and is saved by nanjou. Ultimately its a interesting but exhausting story of idiots and people who are lacking in conscientiousness, seki who is understandable and reasonable can't help but be compulsive and rely on Shimizu, pegasus and the mathematician, nanjou with Punpun, the uncle and Midori. Everyone is so dreary and pretentious.
I think it's a pretty good portrayal of what trauma and mental illness can do to people. Imo depression doesn't really care how well your life is on the outside, no matter what you have you'll still feel terrible. Most of the characters make idiotic and illogical decisions because their mental state is so messed up because of their trauma. There are definitely examples of characters overcoming it though, like with Yuuichi, who was more or less fairly rational after he returned from being missing and even was able to start a family. I wouldn't call it overrated, but it's definitely liked for the wrong reasons.
I have borderline personality disorder and major depressive disorder. First BPD is NOT a mood disorder its a personality disorder. I had a similar childhood to punpun and i've only read the first book of Goodnight Punpun and I thought it would give me hope for my depression. Seeing the spoilers for the rest of the manga of how it ends out I honestly hate it. I'm so tired of all these doomed depression stories especially around characters that have BPD because what am i supposed to take out of it? That I now wanting to work on myself and be accountable for the those I hurt cause of my BPD in the past should give up even trying cause this is the only hope I have? I dunno i feel a sort of betrayl in hearing what this manga had become, i guess its fine for people to understand how victums can end up as abusers but as someone who saw so many of these doom-like stories i've grown to be tired of them and their doom and stigmatization but that's just me personally.
To be fair, this is just my personal assumption of what could be going on with the character. Not that it was ever stated in the manga. There is hope in living a good life with your condition, media just likes to portray the negatives of it.
@@autumnmatthew3185 No she's not. The assumption is spot on. This has no good ending and this is exactly what she is complaining about, how almost no media try to show the good side of this kind of disorder.
Thanks for making this video! I haven't read the series. I am only aware of it because I seem to attract guys who love it, so it's been a bit of a red flag for me... watching your analysis confirmed a lot of my suspicions towards the series (and the fanbase), e.g. Aiko sharing the traits of the Manic Pixie Dream Girl concept, even if she is unique as a character. I'll be more careful around these fans, thank you!
lol this is my favorite comment ever
I figured when Punpun got his own place, he was slipping into depression because I got the indication that he didn't really want to do anything but be like the old guy that occupied the apartment; to not bother doing anything until he died or killed himself.
oh yeah, he definitely spiraled even more after that
The venn diagram of people who say "punpun is literally me" and "bojack horseman is literally me" is just a circle
facts
If you can relate to Pun Pun, don't try to find love, fix whatever it is you find relatable within yourself before you disappoint the next person you try to "love".
I wish I could go back in time and show this comment to myself at the beginning of highschool
@@tyzer2504bruh wtf is wrong with you, punpun is clearly a psychopath and the manga wasn't even a well written story about a psychopath, how could you possibly relate to him
@-sleepy- "wtf is wrong with you" I relate to punpun, that's what's wrong with me 💀
Glad I saw this
If you can relate to Punpun you are a wimp 🤣
After reading a lot of analysis based on the author's perspective, I'm so happy to find this video that deals with the psychological side of the story. What a great video man, i just finished Oyasumi Punpun last week and I'm still into it. Hope you create more video like this, it's great content 🍀.
Thank you, I’m trying my best and Punpun has been my favorite read. Any recommendations on who to do next?
@@hewayughosts13 please read and analyze aku no hana! it is kinda similar to punpun
@@aisu5969 will do
Great analysis. I personaly belive that PunPun has high-functional type of The Melancholic Depression-Persistent Depressive disorder
You’re super under rated. Amazing video
Thank you 🖤🖤
They taught us about the hierachy of needs in my group about trauma and we were identifying which needs were not met in our childhoods bc of abuse. So its really cool to see you mention it
I indeed got clickbaited. Had my pitchfork at the ready. But the video was great so idc
Amazing video, I've seen a lot of analysis for oyasumi punpun but yours are the best I could have found
Thank you man
Amazing video and analysis, makes me enjoy the manga even more
Hey man great video and amazing art. Hope you get alot more subs you deserve it.
Thank you so much, that means the world to me
good ass background music too i been tryna shazam this shit
Just looked at his subs, how tf broski only got 700 subs?🤨
great video
im sorry but the screen with "CHILDHOOD TRAUMA" with a happy sparkling noise (1:01) caught me off guard and i laughed and im so ashamed of myself
Even though the title is a clickbait, I think it was worth a watch.
I recently found your channel. I like very much your analysis and your drawing is good:)
I hope more people found you. Keep going!
your art is gorgeous aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
The title was extremely misleading but this actually was a decent video.
I'd argue it's not misleading. I love Goodnight Punpun, it's an incredible work of art. Also it sucks.
I think what the title meant is why punpun as a person suck
it's called "clickbait"
I love the video and the art!
Thanks bruh
This video helped me better understand myself
should I be concerned?
@@hewayughosts13 I'm just a stranger on the internet, so you have no obligation to be concerned over me or to do anything. So no.
Don't try to find love until you sort yourself out. Pun Pun is an extreme that will disapoint anyone they try to love. Get help on your own or with people you trust before you hurt someone you love with toxic apathy.
you make great videos man
My man
@@therenx8385 yessir
He did enjoy Aiko, they were both going in and out of trusting each other because of the circumstances, I belive its one of the few times pun pun is actually happy in the series, when he's hanging out with her and doing her. It's way easier to belive he goes into shock after aiko is owari. They essentially did everything they wanted to do with eachother at that point. Unfortunately everything was already in shambles when they were finally satisfied and ready to look forward.
Also Aiko basically got punpun to kill her mom the same way the girl from the clay modeling classes did, they could've just run away, they were both adults. They just let their feelings take over that chapter. Just going back to Aiko's mother was the worst decision in the whole manga.
素晴らしいビデオをありがとうございます。
愛子ちゃんもプンプンと同じ被虐待児で、共依存の関係になっていることに言及して欲しかったです。
プンプンは身体的な虐待は受けていませんが、情緒的ネグレクトを受けて育ち、そのせいで愛着形成ができなかったと思います。
I have also made a video on Aiko and her troubles. Glad you enjoyed :)
Honestly, Punpun remind me a little bit of Leo Alvarez from the visual novel Echo.
Just finished it today. I don’t know if I should be concerned for relating to pun pun too much. I felt so “seen” that it make me ball my eyes out on the plane. It’s scary how real the thought he have is close to mine. I don’t have an aiko in my life, but the disgust, the apathy, the hatred, the slugging, and the aimlessness is all far too real. I wonder if this is the eventual path one would take after being completely broken into shambles. There simply isn’t any salvation to be found in the slow burning hell that we live in today. No one bats and eye, and if you are fucked, you are dead as good. Ignorance is bliss. Those who cannot be are sure to be swallowed by the ambyss.
That title got me scared
its just the truth
I mean it's indeed about punpun(individual), not oyasumi punpun lol
One thing i realized is that all the people who dislike or find Goodnight Punpun disturbing are only because they do not know what exactly disorders feel like, they never had to deal with it. Only those who suffer and fight with their own inside demons every minutes for melancholic disorder knows how much it sucks, they know how suffocating it is to change moods every mins, being unable to get out of this goddam moodiness and worst part is being totally clueless for why all these are happening to them.
God i love this manga.
Damn I’m literally PunPun
(Joking, but I do see similarities.)
Yes officer, theres the sick fuck right there
I have never related só hard to a character
wow great video, happy this popped up in my recommended. As a sidenote do you think punpun has any personality disorders?
Thank you, and Punpun would likely have developed some sort of APD, or something more akin to an avoidant personality.
I think Oyasumi punpun is overated. The element of how dark and how griping and emotional the story is. I feel as a reader, you read the manga you feel sympathy for punpun early on with how broken but together his family is. He is simply discontent with everything, he wants romance/sex and gets it from midori, nanjou, aiko, soccer chick. Has no problems with friends who genuinely care about him, maybe socialisingin general but has a support network. Made all his decisions, such as leaving his uncles home, staying out of contact with his dad, he should've been going to therapy. Along with all the weird actions inbetween, reading the manga, knowing how well he's doing, academically progressing towards his real estate license. It feels like he's angry that things are fine, that he doesn't have a excuse to abandon everything or wallow in his own mind which he tries so much to do. He then meets Aiko again, his idyllic excuse and an individual so conceited and possessive as he is and saves her by protecting her against her abusive mother. He then feels finally dammed and can now drop all his pretentious nice-guy placated civility. Runs off in a deranged abusive relationship with Aiko, where he tries to embrace his delusional frame that's he's a killer, stringing Aiko along which she wants to but honestly has no choice, thinking of how to dispose of her and himself. At this point Punpun idyllic image of Aiko is ruined and he just sees her as simply a nuisance, they both contemplate disposing each other and the reality of Aiko situation gets the most of her and she commits suicide. Punpun returns home, similar to his uncle, and tries to commit suicide, with his obvious impending future being difficult to determine, and is saved by nanjou.
Ultimately its a interesting but exhausting story of idiots and people who are lacking in conscientiousness, seki who is understandable and reasonable can't help but be compulsive and rely on Shimizu, pegasus and the mathematician, nanjou with Punpun, the uncle and Midori. Everyone is so dreary and pretentious.
Given that Midori raped him I'm not sure that's great to include her
I think it's a pretty good portrayal of what trauma and mental illness can do to people. Imo depression doesn't really care how well your life is on the outside, no matter what you have you'll still feel terrible. Most of the characters make idiotic and illogical decisions because their mental state is so messed up because of their trauma. There are definitely examples of characters overcoming it though, like with Yuuichi, who was more or less fairly rational after he returned from being missing and even was able to start a family. I wouldn't call it overrated, but it's definitely liked for the wrong reasons.
I have borderline personality disorder and major depressive disorder. First BPD is NOT a mood disorder its a personality disorder. I had a similar childhood to punpun and i've only read the first book of Goodnight Punpun and I thought it would give me hope for my depression. Seeing the spoilers for the rest of the manga of how it ends out I honestly hate it. I'm so tired of all these doomed depression stories especially around characters that have BPD because what am i supposed to take out of it? That I now wanting to work on myself and be accountable for the those I hurt cause of my BPD in the past should give up even trying cause this is the only hope I have? I dunno i feel a sort of betrayl in hearing what this manga had become, i guess its fine for people to understand how victums can end up as abusers but as someone who saw so many of these doom-like stories i've grown to be tired of them and their doom and stigmatization but that's just me personally.
To be fair, this is just my personal assumption of what could be going on with the character. Not that it was ever stated in the manga. There is hope in living a good life with your condition, media just likes to portray the negatives of it.
I think you’re making a lot of assumptions for someone who only read the first book
@@autumnmatthew3185 No she's not. The assumption is spot on. This has no good ending and this is exactly what she is complaining about, how almost no media try to show the good side of this kind of disorder.
Whats the music name?
not sure, just some generic lofi probably
Good analysis, but why does punpun sucks? is it a clickbait title?
well he does suck as a person. definitely not someone you want to be around or date especially. but mostly clickbait :p
Finally some likeminded punpun haters #HWNDU
Reading the title, I though you would talk sh*t about the manga.
😢
Clickbqit
Not really tho. Punpun is the character's name not the manga's.
It's mid bro
truly