And the CHIP has 3.5mm audio, which is more than a new iPhone does! :)
8 лет назад+35
That moment when a 9 dollar micro PC is more advanced in technology than the newest 1000 dollar + shit from Apple.
8 лет назад+14
***** No. I shit into their. To be honest. I just don't want to buy overpriced shit that has old technology which is selled as "new". I don't want to buy things that make life "easier" but actually makes your life worse by takeing away any comfort. If Apple would be honest... or no. If there were not so extremely many fanboys that takes all of the shit they are making to heaven, Apple would be a much better brand. That is the opinnion I have about Apple. Once, they were glory, once. Not today anymore. They died for me like Nintendo is dying right now.
3:25 actually, powering C.H.I.P. from a LiPO battery _was_ straightforward, as it had onboard power management to stabilize voltage and charge the battery. Awesome for a hobby project.
good video but I really wish you had run the same browser and video player on each device. using different programs kind of negates the test in my mind. What default program the developers decided to use doesn't really have any bearing on raw performance. I think anyone who would be buying one of these would understand how to install a different program.
not if another player shows something else. the chip is now unusable for many, but if another free player is able to play it fine, it would change the outcome. perhaps still slower than the pi which this was all about, that's true. but it would still be a better test/video.
Way To Bring The Hits Every Sunday Chris! Another Great Video Man. It Was Very Interesting To See A Side By Side Comparison Like That. Well Done. This Will Provide Many Answers And Options For People New To These Devices Moving Forward......
ErPAkka Yes. New versions of Raspbian come with Chromium browser pre-installed. Raspbian used to have a more bare bones browser before the Pixel update. I'm not too sure why they decided something as heavy as Chromium was a good idea for a SBC...
Pi Zero W just came out a week or two ago and it adds the same WiFi and Bluetooth setup as the Pi 3 to the Pi Zero. Costs $10 instead of $5 but that should actually make it a lot more accessible since now they have room for profit.
To be honest I'd use neither of these for desktop computing, I do have a Zero which I am planning to try some projects with and I'm going to get a Chip just because they are cheap, by the time you buy all the peripherals you'd be better with a PI 3 model B with 4 USB Ports, Wifi, Bluetooth, Quadcore, 1 Gb ram, Ethernet, HDMI all for around the $40 mark.
These sorts of mini computers are good for personal security programming small projects ect. There are many more places you can cram a chip or pi zero than a full on Pi3
The video playback comparison is tied into the "support" you mentioned near the end of the video, and said support may be the most important part of SoCs. Any SoC at the sub 50usd range will always crawl like the chip when doing video playback with gnome mplayer. At least with catch-all acceleration methods and drive stacks that come out with the operating system you use with it. Starting at the lowest level the Pis operating systems and hardware have been available to the public for far longer, so not only is there more of a mature understanding of it, you see things like Omxplayer more often. Omxplayer is what wins the Pi for video playback, it is an entire video player stack using the OpenMax api from Broadcom themselves to get the absolute best media play back possible from the Pi. The chip may one day have the same sort of support but unfortunately unless one person stumbles on some goldmine of performance in the chip to compete with things like Omxplayer, it is always going to be second fiddle to the Pi.
If you put the DIP on the Chip all the GPIO pins will be occupied just to have a HDMI output. On the PI you can still use the GPIO pins and have a HDMI output. They should've made something else for the Chips so that you can still use the GPIO pins + have a HDMI output.
You could still use pins if you put DIP on the CHIP. You have GPIO solder points on the DIP where you could solder GPIO headers :) Look more carefully: docs.getchip.com/images/hdmi_callout.jpg
What a great video ! I'll go with Chip + DIP. You could use a flashusb for added RAM for chip (like old winxp netbooks used for extra RAM) so 6gb basically =) I'll just use my 2k downconverted or 1080i to vcd/mpeg1 video files to play on CHIP !
Excellent video, Christopher. I like the neutral point of view presented, because both boards have advantages and disadvantages, and of course it is up to the user to decide which will be better to meet their need.
Really surprised by the result of the video playback test! Did not expect that at all! Bit of a shame that the Pi Zero does not have wi-fi and/or bluetooth on that board, though. It's just what it needed. EDIT: I wonder how's the performance for data access speed on both of those devices.
Excellent! Didn't even know about the RasPi Zero, but just ordered one, although I struggled to find the board only! Ordered a Chip but still waiting for it as it was sold out. Just been notified it will be shipped this month. Really good narration voice and presentation by the way!
Well, I don't know if any comparison makes sense. Those computers are not meant to be used for general computing anyway. And from what I see, the zero is meant for smaller projects (well, physically smaller at least :) ) while CHIP could be good for some retro gaming with its less-than-perfect analog video output. In any case, I see a market for both, but not necessarily competing directly.
The zero or the chip, no they don't have the horse power for general computing. I have done retro gaming on the zero its no quad core but it does the job. I can see the chip being good in that application as well. For General computing though the pi 3 is getting close to what I would call usable horse power for that. If the pi 3 had just one more gig of ram it would be there IMO.
The Pi Zero is about the same size as the Arduino nano, As is the Pi3 to the Arduino Uno but they are for 2 entirely different purposes so it isn't really a useful comparison. These little things are certainly not sitting between the full Pi and Arduino, as these little computers hold a full operating system with a nice amount of RAM & storage space vs the Arduinos 2KB RAM and 32KB of flash memory, but again they are for 2 completely different purposes. Last time I looked into it the Banana Pi had a separate USB/Ethernet bus if that is what you need, if they are still going.
Easily missed fact about the CHIP is that it has a 40 pin display controller so you can cut the display's driver board out and run it straight off the CHIP. The space saving from not needing a display driver board makes up for the board size difference.
I have to agree the Pi has the edge. Its on-board HDMI and user selective memory capacity are key features. The CHIPs slow video playback is more than a little disturbing and a game ender if it cannot be overcome. The price of both devices is getting up there once you add on necessary accessories... which make one wonder about simply going with a full size Pi over the Zero. Excellent video as always.
On the Launch browser & page load-test, you can see in the bottom left of the Raspberry browser that it's the uBlock extension that's causing most of the extra time spent in rendering the page, while I'm not sure the C.H.I.P even had that extension. Still, neither of these computers are really meant for browsing or even windowed environments in general no matter what the marketing is telling us.
omxplayer has always been the superior video player in my opinion, for low-end computers it completely bypasses desktop environment which makes it MUCH faster, and capable of being run from a command-line only interface (obviously not through ssh or such, but CLI through hdmi)
I'm wondering if the HDMI adaptor on the chip computer was causing the slow browser video playback, was the performance the same out of the composite video? Academic as chip went bust
The Chromium starts to wait for uBlock Origin adblock extension from 26.5 seconds. What if we also install adblock on Firefox? Does it run faster on the CHIP?
Ordered a chip years ago after watching your review, never ever got to try it.... Ordered the pi zero w last Thursday and it should be here tomorrow, hope it's more fun that the chip would have been heh...
well it had to happen some time i guess 36 years old , internet / youtube about 20+ years first thing that's interesting on this crap site very nice structured videos , good explanation thanks man , keep it up
I prefer the zero w out of both these. The sd card support and hdmi support is great and you don't have to buy that silly wifi adapter. It's my favorite SBC by far.
you should do a vid on the different "projects" you can do with the chip. you do a great job with the vids long time watcher and subscriber keep up with the work
Its worth noting that the availability of the raspberry pi and the chip are vastly different. I have only ever seen the chip shipping from the nextthing site whereas the raspberry pi is sold on a multitude of electronics websites. Also the chip shipping costs for the UK are extortionate, but it is coming from Australia so ho hum.
Perhaps a more accurate comparison might now be between a CHIP and a Raspberry Pi zero-W which has a built in bluetooth and 802.11(something) wi-fi card - it's closer to $10, but brings more functionality onboard. The "vanilla" Zero is perhaps closer in concept to the "thinking person's Arduino" - it's primarily intended as a "maker" board which *happens* to run a version of Linux, than a fully-functional desktop alternative. And to be "balanced" - the Rpi needs you to set up the Micro-SD card on a conventional computer, or buy one preloaded with Raspian Still, an interesting comparison
the CHIP sounds downright ideal for use as a remote-use device. Especially a battery powered one. I feel like the built in LiPO connector isn't getting enough credit for it's usefulness in that regard. If you're just setting it up to run a small program remotely you'll only need composite out to do initial setup then never need video out again. If the project doesn't need much space then you can VERY easily justify the lack of expandable storage by having the convenience of it built on, and the wifi/bluetooth connectivity right out of the box is a bit of a godsend. I'd wager you could make a mean solar powered piratebox for small files out of one of those things with a big enough battery to last the night/cloudy days for probably under 30 bucks since it already has most of what you'd need built in.
I would have thought the use for these would be to be built into other projects, for control or telemetry, as a kind of super form of embedded device, so I would tend to downplay the necessity of using a monitor, and for this reason I would prefer the Pi Zero as it comes with the option of either soldering header pins on if needed, or directly soldering wires onto the board itself for a better long term connection, which is how I would like to construct a project myself.
I think once the Chip solves its video playback, it will become the better SBC. I wish you would have discussed how to addon memory to the chip. Maybe another dip?
The memory is soldered, and hence cannot be expanded I'm afraid. Since I made this video a $10 "Raspberry Pi Zero W" has become available with WiFi and Bluetooth like the CHIP.
I think for a cheap torrent box that can download stuff overnight without having to turn on a regular desktop PC, the chip is pretty good. It already has on board storage so you can stick whatever Linux you want to use to make the torrent client. Also has Wifi built in and you can run it from composite video to do the initial setup of the board, no need to buy an adapter + hdmi cable for that. Has a regular USB port so you can add a external storage and configure it so it dumps your torrent or hosts your files from there.
Could you please take a clip about playing a video over usb source? - this maybe shows where the brake is going on. Graphics adapter or the onboard flash? An 2.0 usb Adapter with a SD-Card will show us the truth and will me getting sleep in slightly :-) Cheers!
Network seems to be bottled capped with these single computer boards since they seem to share the USB data with the network adapter. So it really doesn't matter if you use a built in Ethernet port (like on a Raspberry Pi) or a USB Ethernet adapter, you still pretty much limited by the data transfer speeds of the USB chipset/controller itself. So using Wi-Fi to downloads torrents on these is pretty much OK considering it's a low powered device that you leave unattended @ night downloading stuff for you. Also keep in mind it's just a $9 board.
Nathan Schmick Looking at a high-res photo right now, there's no LED there. Even in the video you can clearly see there are no pads for an LED to be soldered to, the flashes are appearing between a layer interconnect connected to pin 18 (5V) and a trace leading to pin 16 (SDA) and there's no component there. It can be either a spark or a reflection.
Well, you've changed my mind about the CHIP. Another great video tutorial. Thank you for posting this video. I'll stick with my PI 3 for the wife's next computer.
Memory Access Time - how much of a factor is memory access time? I have been surprised at how slowly laptops run SDs and microSDs when plugged into the SD slot, even when the storage chips themselves are fast. UHS cards running on USB3 via an appropriate adapter can be several times as fast as the same cards shoved into the SD slot.
I really don't consider the Orange Pi to be a "Pi" beyond the name, because RPIs are released by Pi Towers, while OPIs come from Adafruit. That being said, OPIs are generally more expensive, which may allude to better-performing hardware, or at least, more for your money, but there is nothing stopping the ecosystems for CHIP, RPI and OPI from merging together, as many hackers manage to get components working together even if they aren't made to work with one another because it's all copper and silicon at the end of the day.
I think the software comparison would have been more fair if the tests were run using the same applications, I mean, to be fair, that the actual conclusions here fit the question "what default software run better on each device" instead of "what device is faster/better"
6:00 my board came with that cable. 7:10 you assume that everyone has an hdmi cable which does not seem fair to the chip because you include the cost of the cable for the chip, which i say again was included.
My understanding is that the first round of CHIPs sold (via the Kickstarter) came with the TTRS/composite cable. Since that time, the cable has not been included in the $9 purchase price. On the HDMI cable for the Pi, I am including the cost of a mini to standard HDMI adapter. But yes, you may be right in that not everybody will have an HDMI cable (although I would suspect that most people who own a TV or monitor with an HDMI port will have it connected to an HDMI source, and hence will have a cable).
I was curious about the audio output quality and found in the datasheet that the Allwinner SoC has an integrated 24-Bit audio peripheral. For me that would be a huge advantage over the Zero, but now I'm confused why they don't lose a word about the audio in the documentation. Neither the wiki nor the datasheet specify the sampling rate, output impedance etc.
The CHiP includes a battery charging circuit doesn't it? So you can solder on a LiPo and use it out and about. Then again there are plenty of 5V battery packs that connect via USB, and they include a charger circuit. The newer Pi Zero (v1.2) introduced a mini sized camera port. You did a fair review I think... clearly not biased one way or the other.
The CHIP has one huge advantage and that's the ongoing availability by the manufacturer. While the RPi Zero is great when it comes to function as it should, the company behind unfortunately decided to set this thing on a limited production. That's also why prices for the board are also almost as high as those for the typical Pi2 and Pi3 boards.
This is true, although both the CHIP and Pi Zero are hard to get hold of. It took me six months to get a CHIP after the order, and I see that are now out of stock until "Q1 2017". In a way this is good -- it indicates demand -- but I think the margins in these boards make their supply problematic for any company.
the pi is a lot better option for me. i have a wifi dongle, an hdmi to normal hdmi cable, a usb hub and a powersupply. i use (a full size) pi as a media center for my living room. i also overclocked it with no problem whatsoever. but the most important for me is the on-board decoder that makes the video playback perfectly buttery smooth.
trouble is the chip computer is in update and not available, unless you buy the pocket one, plus now there is the pi zero W which has wifi. Be interesting to see an update when the chip get reissued against the zero w
Hi I have the Raspberry Pi Zero with the latest and updated Raspbian installed. It says OMXPlayer is installed when I type it into the terminal but I cant find it on the GUI desktop. I see you have it associated with your video files, could you tell me or point me to a guide that will help me set mine up like this, thanks.
Hello friend!I am facing a problem in my RaspBerry pi zero, it is not recognizing mini wireless touch pad keyboard and another that I have also not, what do I do to solve this?Can you tell me a keyboard or solution?I connect mini keyboard by hub!
Just saw a presentation about this thing embedded into the PocketCHIP case. By the time you make the "cheap" computer runnable, it is at least 3 times the cost of Pi3, about 10 times the price of a Pi0 with about the same speed if you want HDMI. 1/4 the speed of a 3B for more money. I guess it has a market niche but I am straining to understand it. The flash that has to be bought tends to level the pricing just a little but, as you say, not changable on CHIP. Limited selection of environments, too. As always, an excellent, informative presentation. One update, the Pi0W is out now so $5 extra for the Pi side of the tally. As of May 3, 2018 the CHIP is not available. They claim they will return. I suspect their production run was completely subscribed and they have to go back to the fab to get some more made up. Will see what it looks like next round.
I thought the chip appeared visibly faster in composite than in HDMI, "snappier" if you will. The adapter drags, it's likely what's wrong in video playback. You should try video playback on the chip without it for a cleaner out the box comparison.
Thanks for this -- and you see Chromium in this video. Since the launch of PIXEL, it has been the default browser on the Pi, and is now pre-installed in Raspbian. The LattePanda also happily runs Chrome or Chromium. :)
I have to say for embedded systems I prefer the Pi. I don't need HDMI or networking, or even Bluetooth. I just need the GPIO Pins. And a big advantage of the pi is: I plug in a SD card with my software, solder some wires on, and it works.
I don't know why, but I prefer Raspberry Pi boards. I think it's the user community which seems to be in the millions with an endless back catalogue of projects, from the very simple to the unbelievably advanced.
Could youb explain why the CHIP can't play video smoothly? I've heard that is because of a video codec or driver. Do you think this can be fixed? Thanks!
Where i can buy this pleezz lmk what's the easiest way to buy the Shannon have windows installed is it already installed or would it be easier because from what I understand Lennox is free and available to download so I would be able to install that on to the check if it doesn't have OS
what are you smoking? these are great boards, but apple have phones with 4-8 gigs of ram, faster CPUs than mobile intel processors and graphics better than an ps3/xbox 360. add on the 64+ gigs of storage, battery, hi res display, 4k cameras, os...
But I'm looking for a microcontroller that can interface with an electronic subsystem, provide video and computer connection, with data. So if I hook up that HDMI module to the Chip, I lose all of those GPIO and analog connectors. Actually, I also want video I/O, and it doesn't look like either of these will do both. Both of these are ARM processors. Chip is Allwinner R8 ARMv7 Cortex-A8. Pi-0 is ARM1176. Alternatively, an onsite laptop computer, which is what I don't want to drag along, but if I want to do any heavy data storage, I may have to. Neither of these has an external drive port. Interesting - thanks for the comparison. I think you also may have separate videos on each of these, so I'll have a look at those.
I do indeed have videos on each -- and on a great many other SBCs! Sounds to me like an x86 board like a LattePanda may suit your needs: ruclips.net/video/z5EXNfHYPfQ/видео.html
A 1TB HDD should certainly be usable for storage on a Raspberry Pi. You will need a table that has a standard USB Type A connector at the Raspberry Pi end.
Community support is probably the most important part for me. Without community support I would have never bough my Pies. note: I saw you say that some 64Gb cards work on the Pi in fat32. I have formatted my 64Gig and even 128Gb cards with the special formatter (for noobs) and they all work great (I have about 8 Pies that I manage and or own - i lost count)
It now contains a webpage with nightly compiles - over time the archive has become quite big. They where on sale during black Friday ($32,-) I just had to buy one. www.amazon.com/SanDisk-microSDXC-Standard-Packaging-SDSQUNC-128G-GN6MA/dp/B010Q57S62/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1485204251&sr=8-2&keywords=128gb+sandisk
Sadly, here in Poland atleast, these things are kinda expensive. For example, Pi Zero costs 60 $. 100 bucks for self contained plug and play gadget. As for CHIP, i could`nt find it anywhere. For 100 $ i can have used 10 YO laptop running WinXP with some power to spare. And i cant get anything ordered from abroad cheaper, do to taxes. Tell me about 5th world country... Anyhow. Quality upload, as always.
This is why the pi zero w was such a huge deal. add "ssh" to the root of the sdcard and "wpa_supplicant.conf" with your network config and use it in projects wireless and headless. Nobody should be using these as computer systems other than like a gameboy or something.
The safest way would be to use an air blower to remove dust/dirt from the port -- there are spray cans or little rubber things you can get. For basic port cleaning, I often use a bit of BluTack, although this cannot get right inside.
Yes, the Pi 3B and Pi 3 B+ have WiFi and Bluetooth. But please stop posting comments about the Pi 3 on a video about the Pi Zero and CHIP. I for one am getting very confused here. The computers shown in this video cannot boot from USB, and the Pi Zero shown does not have WiFi or Bluetooth!
There's a slight mistake with the ports description on the chip, the micro USB port is also an otg port that can provide serial connection to the chip, which is a huge advantage in my use case, I'm a programmer and I'm using the chip as portable programming device and I'm connecting it through one USB port directly to the pc and I can.program at my regular environment without the need to configure everything from scratch every time I'm at new place and the greatest thing about it that's it cross platform I can even use it on winxp and the pi0 from the other hand can be set as ethernet gadget but it requires different settings on different machines plus there no WiFi
Chris i've seen that on raspberry pi zero when you press on the video it automatically starts playing What did you add on the program i still need to type in terminal on omxplayer Is there an upgrade or some software? Thank you
Good spot! :) You need to use a text editor to create a desktop shortcut to the video file, and to specify the program that will launch it (omxplayer as you say). I am struggling to remember the syntax right now -- I am not on a Pi! -- but I think the file has to be created in /home/pi/Desktop
Christopher, I think the benchmark is quite muddled by the fact that you're using different apps on the two different systems. I also think the webpage on the chip was likely cached. It was far too fast considering all of the other bottlenecks. I'm not disputing your conclusion, just offering refinements on the methodology. Thanks!
I inevitably used different apps on different systems, as there is no available operating system that runs on both computers, nor a common browser. So I am running here what the manufacturers/suppliers intended. The test here is a real-world one of computer systems, not hardware -- or in other words, the combination of hardware and software that real users would run in the real world. People seem to forget that on ARM systems you cannot just "download the same OS" and try it. It does not work that way. The OS and drivers need to be available and compiled for the specific hardware. :) When testing other SBCs I get a similar argument -- the test is no good, why not try using such-and-such an OS on them that happens to run both? (Even though it is a very obscure OS that almost no real world user will ever run). Which might, technically be a "better test" of hardware vs hardware, but is meaningless for real world application. If comparing a Mac and a PC, would you wipe macOS and Windows off them to install Linux to do a better test? I seriously hope not.
I agree that you can't run the same distro on both, because there are custom binary drivers usually involved. But I think you can probably get the same browsers on both.
I figured you were comparing "system" to "system," rather than hardware to hardware. I would still humbly recommend trying to run the benchmarks on the same apps if at all possible, and not just the same type of app. Cheers.
I wonder if the video playback is more of a driver issue or built in decoder issue. Sucks but sometimes with low power devices you will have to convert or download videos with codecs that are supported by your onboard decoder :)
Chris, you might want to do a video about thin client computing, meaning using a low power computer to access a remote server to do work, like I'm doing right now. I use a Windows 10 OS in a virtual machine on a Linux server in France, and accessing it from Linux Mint using Remmina RDP client. I use a low power laptop with a 4W Intel Celeron N3160 CPU and 4GB RAM and a 32GB eMMC storage.
@ExplainingComputers Do you think I can run a smart-home lamp control (433 Mhz sender to control the sokets) with the chip? I need 3 GPIO Pins for that. And as the Chip has wifi this goes fine with me.
At least they have more ports than the new MacBook
And the CHIP has 3.5mm audio, which is more than a new iPhone does! :)
That moment when a 9 dollar micro PC is more advanced in technology than the newest 1000 dollar + shit from Apple.
***** No. I shit into their.
To be honest. I just don't want to buy overpriced shit that has old technology which is selled as "new". I don't want to buy things that make life "easier" but actually makes your life worse by takeing away any comfort.
If Apple would be honest... or no. If there were not so extremely many fanboys that takes all of the shit they are making to heaven, Apple would be a much better brand.
That is the opinnion I have about Apple.
Once, they were glory, once. Not today anymore. They died for me like Nintendo is dying right now.
The only Apple product I can afford is Apple Juice
I was waiting for someone to say that. Haha
3:25 actually, powering C.H.I.P. from a LiPO battery _was_ straightforward, as it had onboard power management to stabilize voltage and charge the battery. Awesome for a hobby project.
R.I.P. NTC
Very nice comparison. Yeah, people complain about different softwares being tested, but this is great for comparing out of the box performance.
Exactly! :)
It held up to what I have seen in other videos. The cost comparison with accessories though is the best I have seen done on the 2 boards.
I got lucky and scored 2 zero boards. The kit plus a single board. You have to camp the sites hard as they sell fast.
Check Pimoroni's site. Zero is currently in stock: shop.pimoroni.com/products/raspberry-pi-zero
sorry it wasn't when i sent you the link
good video but I really wish you had run the same browser and video player on each device. using different programs kind of negates the test in my mind. What default program the developers decided to use doesn't really have any bearing on raw performance. I think anyone who would be buying one of these would understand how to install a different program.
Yes I agree :)
not if another player shows something else. the chip is now unusable for
many, but if another free player is able to play it fine, it would
change the outcome. perhaps still slower than the pi which this was all
about, that's true. but it would still be a better test/video.
Do R/C! but if he did that, then it wouldn't be comparing the default hardware.
Way To Bring The Hits Every Sunday Chris! Another Great Video Man. It Was Very Interesting To See A Side By Side Comparison Like That. Well Done. This Will Provide Many Answers And Options For People New To These Devices Moving Forward......
Yes, great job once again. My whole family follows your videos. You do such a great job of explaining thoroughly.
Thanks to your whole family for watching! :)
You might want to re look at this now :) Since the pi zero W has wifi and bluetooth built in ;)
and the price is closer togther now lol
Indeed, things keep moving on . . . :)
Firefox vs. Chromium, found your issue.
Emilispk yes good point
agreed
ErPAkka Yes. New versions of Raspbian come with Chromium browser pre-installed. Raspbian used to have a more bare bones browser before the Pixel update. I'm not too sure why they decided something as heavy as Chromium was a good idea for a SBC...
The pi was waiting for the built in Adblocker. Look at the bottom left.
also usb wifi can be worse
I just wanted to say that I really enjoy and appreciate your videos. Your lack of bias and dedication to fair comparison is exemplary. Thumbs up.
Many thanks.
I dreamt of 256 bit credit card computers in 1969.
Now,you have it :).
Pi Zero W just came out a week or two ago and it adds the same WiFi and Bluetooth setup as the Pi 3 to the Pi Zero. Costs $10 instead of $5 but that should actually make it a lot more accessible since now they have room for profit.
If you are a thrifty person many of the add-ons you need can be found at pound shops for the Pi Zero. A mouse, charger, hdmi adapter all found there.
To be honest I'd use neither of these for desktop computing, I do have a Zero which I am planning to try some projects with and I'm going to get a Chip just because they are cheap, by the time you buy all the peripherals you'd be better with a PI 3 model B with 4 USB Ports, Wifi, Bluetooth, Quadcore, 1 Gb ram, Ethernet, HDMI all for around the $40 mark.
These sorts of mini computers are good for personal security programming small projects ect. There are many more places you can cram a chip or pi zero than a full on Pi3
These are for other purposes than desktop experiences. For example, I run one as a weather station logger.
The video playback comparison is tied into the "support" you mentioned near the end of the video, and said support may be the most important part of SoCs. Any SoC at the sub 50usd range will always crawl like the chip when doing video playback with gnome mplayer. At least with catch-all acceleration methods and drive stacks that come out with the operating system you use with it. Starting at the lowest level the Pis operating systems and hardware have been available to the public for far longer, so not only is there more of a mature understanding of it, you see things like Omxplayer more often. Omxplayer is what wins the Pi for video playback, it is an entire video player stack using the OpenMax api from Broadcom themselves to get the absolute best media play back possible from the Pi. The chip may one day have the same sort of support but unfortunately unless one person stumbles on some goldmine of performance in the chip to compete with things like Omxplayer, it is always going to be second fiddle to the Pi.
If you put the DIP on the Chip all the GPIO pins will be occupied just to have a HDMI output. On the PI you can still use the GPIO pins and have a HDMI output.
They should've made something else for the Chips so that you can still use the GPIO pins + have a HDMI output.
You could still use pins if you put DIP on the CHIP. You have GPIO solder points on the DIP where you could solder GPIO headers :) Look more carefully: docs.getchip.com/images/hdmi_callout.jpg
What a great video ! I'll go with Chip + DIP. You could use a flashusb for added RAM for chip (like old winxp netbooks used for extra RAM) so 6gb basically =) I'll just use my 2k downconverted or 1080i to vcd/mpeg1 video files to play on CHIP !
Excellent video, Christopher. I like the neutral point of view presented, because both boards have advantages and disadvantages, and of course it is up to the user to decide which will be better to meet their need.
What a time to be alive.
Seeing again is nice to see how things are getting better in this small device... I use the pi zero for teaching to deaf people with video lessons
Cool.
I'm a big fan of CHIP, but I think this was a perfectly fair comparison overall.
Really surprised by the result of the video playback test! Did not expect that at all!
Bit of a shame that the Pi Zero does not have wi-fi and/or bluetooth on that board, though. It's just what it needed.
EDIT: I wonder how's the performance for data access speed on both of those devices.
Excellent! Didn't even know about the RasPi Zero, but just ordered one, although I struggled to find the board only! Ordered a Chip but still waiting for it as it was sold out. Just been notified it will be shipped this month. Really good narration voice and presentation by the way!
This channel very much deserves the 3/4 million subscribers it has- "good show" I say to it success.
Well, I don't know if any comparison makes sense. Those computers are not meant to be used for general computing anyway. And from what I see, the zero is meant for smaller projects (well, physically smaller at least :) ) while CHIP could be good for some retro gaming with its less-than-perfect analog video output.
In any case, I see a market for both, but not necessarily competing directly.
The zero or the chip, no they don't have the horse power for general computing. I have done retro gaming on the zero its no quad core but it does the job. I can see the chip being good in that application as well.
For General computing though the pi 3 is getting close to what I would call usable horse power for that. If the pi 3 had just one more gig of ram it would be there IMO.
The Pi Zero is about the same size as the Arduino nano, As is the Pi3 to the Arduino Uno but they are for 2 entirely different purposes so it isn't really a useful comparison. These little things are certainly not sitting between the full Pi and Arduino, as these little computers hold a full operating system with a nice amount of RAM & storage space vs the Arduinos 2KB RAM and 32KB of flash memory, but again they are for 2 completely different purposes. Last time I looked into it the Banana Pi had a separate USB/Ethernet bus if that is what you need, if they are still going.
Easily missed fact about the CHIP is that it has a 40 pin display controller so you can cut the display's driver board out and run it straight off the CHIP. The space saving from not needing a display driver board makes up for the board size difference.
That is a nice feature. External display driver boards can be a real pin to space out and deal with for projects.
There is not MARKET with things that are not available to buy/use!
So your safest bit is the Orange Pi:
www.banggood.com/search/orange-pi.html
I have to agree the Pi has the edge. Its on-board HDMI and user selective memory capacity are key features. The CHIPs slow video playback is more than a little disturbing and a game ender if it cannot be overcome. The price of both devices is getting up there once you add on necessary accessories... which make one wonder about simply going with a full size Pi over the Zero. Excellent video as always.
On the Launch browser & page load-test, you can see in the bottom left of the Raspberry browser that it's the uBlock extension that's causing most of the extra time spent in rendering the page, while I'm not sure the C.H.I.P even had that extension.
Still, neither of these computers are really meant for browsing or even windowed environments in general no matter what the marketing is telling us.
I discovered your channel a few days ago, just wanted to tank you ! amazing channel :D
Many thanks. :)
I'm amazed how heartless all of you are! This man is dying! And no one says a word.
omxplayer has always been the superior video player in my opinion, for low-end computers
it completely bypasses desktop environment which makes it MUCH faster, and capable of being run from a command-line only interface (obviously not through ssh or such, but CLI through hdmi)
I'm sure you're aware by now that the PI 0 (W) comes with WIFI and BT as standard. Great video thanks
Great experience watching so tiny computers. Thanks................
I'm wondering if the HDMI adaptor on the chip computer was causing the slow browser video playback, was the performance the same out of the composite video? Academic as chip went bust
The Chromium starts to wait for uBlock Origin adblock extension from 26.5 seconds. What if we also install adblock on Firefox? Does it run faster on the CHIP?
Ordered a chip years ago after watching your review, never ever got to try it.... Ordered the pi zero w last Thursday and it should be here tomorrow, hope it's more fun that the chip would have been heh...
The Pi Zero W is cool -- enyou it! Sorry the CHIP did not arrive. :(
well it had to happen some time i guess
36 years old , internet / youtube about 20+ years
first thing that's interesting on this crap site
very nice structured videos , good explanation
thanks man , keep it up
Thanks! :)
I prefer the zero w out of both these. The sd card support and hdmi support is great and you don't have to buy that silly wifi adapter. It's my favorite SBC by far.
you should do a vid on the different "projects" you can do with the chip. you do a great job with the vids long time watcher and subscriber keep up with the work
Thanks for doing these two videos on the CHIP! It was something I mentioned in the comments a while back :)
It too me some time to get hold of a CHIP. :)
Its worth noting that the availability of the raspberry pi and the chip are vastly different.
I have only ever seen the chip shipping from the nextthing site whereas the raspberry pi is sold on a multitude of electronics websites.
Also the chip shipping costs for the UK are extortionate, but it is coming from Australia so ho hum.
Perhaps a more accurate comparison might now be between a CHIP and a Raspberry Pi zero-W which has a built in bluetooth and 802.11(something) wi-fi card - it's closer to $10, but brings more functionality onboard. The "vanilla" Zero is perhaps closer in concept to the "thinking person's Arduino" - it's primarily intended as a "maker" board which *happens* to run a version of Linux, than a fully-functional desktop alternative.
And to be "balanced" - the Rpi needs you to set up the Micro-SD card on a conventional computer, or buy one preloaded with Raspian
Still, an interesting comparison
True -- but the Pi Zero W had not been released when this video was made! :)
the CHIP sounds downright ideal for use as a remote-use device. Especially a battery powered one. I feel like the built in LiPO connector isn't getting enough credit for it's usefulness in that regard.
If you're just setting it up to run a small program remotely you'll only need composite out to do initial setup then never need video out again. If the project doesn't need much space then you can VERY easily justify the lack of expandable storage by having the convenience of it built on, and the wifi/bluetooth connectivity right out of the box is a bit of a godsend.
I'd wager you could make a mean solar powered piratebox for small files out of one of those things with a big enough battery to last the night/cloudy days for probably under 30 bucks since it already has most of what you'd need built in.
I have a couple running as "mesh WiFi network" systems - operating off a LiPo battery with a small USB output solar panel.
The PiZero says "Waiting for extension UBlock origin" which is an adblocker extension.
I would have thought the use for these would be to be built into other projects, for control or telemetry, as a kind of super form of embedded device, so I would tend to downplay the necessity of using a monitor, and for this reason I would prefer the Pi Zero as it comes with the option of either soldering header pins on if needed, or directly soldering wires onto the board itself for a better long term connection, which is how I would like to construct a project myself.
i have resisted doing this for 6 ov your videos and i have to admit, you got me.... SUBSCRIBED!!
thumbs up!!
Excellent -- welcome aboard! :)
how about in one of the next videos one of the bench test i think it would be a great idea to test them in light gaming or arcade cabin emulator
I think once the Chip solves its video playback, it will become the better SBC. I wish you would have discussed how to addon memory to the chip. Maybe another dip?
The memory is soldered, and hence cannot be expanded I'm afraid. Since I made this video a $10 "Raspberry Pi Zero W" has become available with WiFi and Bluetooth like the CHIP.
I think for a cheap torrent box that can download stuff overnight without having to turn on a regular desktop PC, the chip is pretty good. It already has on board storage so you can stick whatever Linux you want to use to make the torrent client. Also has Wifi built in and you can run it from composite video to do the initial setup of the board, no need to buy an adapter + hdmi cable for that. Has a regular USB port so you can add a external storage and configure it so it dumps your torrent or hosts your files from there.
Yes, all very, very true. :)
Could you please take a clip about playing a video over usb source? - this maybe shows where the brake is going on. Graphics adapter or the onboard flash? An 2.0 usb Adapter with a SD-Card will show us the truth and will me getting sleep in slightly :-)
Cheers!
Network seems to be bottled capped with these single computer boards since they seem to share the USB data with the network adapter. So it really doesn't matter if you use a built in Ethernet port (like on a Raspberry Pi) or a USB Ethernet adapter, you still pretty much limited by the data transfer speeds of the USB chipset/controller itself. So using Wi-Fi to downloads torrents on these is pretty much OK considering it's a low powered device that you leave unattended @ night downloading stuff for you. Also keep in mind it's just a $9 board.
10:21 What's the flashing bellow pin 18 of the HDMI connector? It's way too small to be an LED. Looks almost like a spark.
hellterminator That is an LED. Just a tiny one mounted to the board.
Nathan Schmick Looking at a high-res photo right now, there's no LED there. Even in the video you can clearly see there are no pads for an LED to be soldered to, the flashes are appearing between a layer interconnect connected to pin 18 (5V) and a trace leading to pin 16 (SDA) and there's no component there. It can be either a spark or a reflection.
I see something soldered to pads there, it's just that the LED is facing the side of the board, not toward the camera.
sinephase Dude, there's no LED. i.imgur.com/O2tVEm4.jpg
Well, you've changed my mind about the CHIP. Another great video tutorial. Thank you for posting this video. I'll stick with my PI 3 for the wife's next computer.
You cannot go far wrong with a Raspberry Pi 3. :)
Thank you, Chris, for all your video tutorials. I'm learning a lot!
I prefer the minimalism of the Pi Zero, especially not having internal storage. I like all that modular.
Memory Access Time
- how much of a factor is memory access time? I have been surprised at how slowly laptops run SDs and microSDs when plugged into the SD slot, even when the storage chips themselves are fast. UHS cards running on USB3 via an appropriate adapter can be several times as fast as the same cards shoved into the SD slot.
Nice comparison! Also could you make a list of all the similar single board computers available so far?
First normal comment ....
pls include the orange pi
Thanks for this! :) Yes, the Orange Pi is now on my video slate.
ExplainingComputers ohh I look forward to that.
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cuz i couldn't afford other components :(
i think it should be compared to the orange pi sero
I really don't consider the Orange Pi to be a "Pi" beyond the name, because RPIs are released by Pi Towers, while OPIs come from Adafruit.
That being said, OPIs are generally more expensive, which may allude to better-performing hardware, or at least, more for your money, but there is nothing stopping the ecosystems for CHIP, RPI and OPI from merging together, as many hackers manage to get components working together even if they aren't made to work with one another because it's all copper and silicon at the end of the day.
I think the software comparison would have been more fair if the tests were run using the same applications, I mean, to be fair, that the actual conclusions here fit the question "what default software run better on each device" instead of "what device is faster/better"
Will you ever do some kind of a portable arcade or PIboy. I would love to see your version of the build!
Nice idea -- noted! :)
Thanks, cant wait for the next few episodes! :)
6:00 my board came with that cable.
7:10 you assume that everyone has an hdmi cable which does not seem fair to the chip because you include the cost of the cable for the chip, which i say again was included.
My understanding is that the first round of CHIPs sold (via the Kickstarter) came with the TTRS/composite cable. Since that time, the cable has not been included in the $9 purchase price. On the HDMI cable for the Pi, I am including the cost of a mini to standard HDMI adapter. But yes, you may be right in that not everybody will have an HDMI cable (although I would suspect that most people who own a TV or monitor with an HDMI port will have it connected to an HDMI source, and hence will have a cable).
Good comparison video... Bu what about the Heat generated on Chip & Raspberry Pi ? Could you help with this. Thank you!
Neither of these SBCs get very warm -- both are very lower power.
I was curious about the audio output quality and found in the datasheet that the Allwinner SoC has an integrated 24-Bit audio peripheral. For me that would be a huge advantage over the Zero, but now I'm confused why they don't lose a word about the audio in the documentation. Neither the wiki nor the datasheet specify the sampling rate, output impedance etc.
How to connect the RSPBY board with the ARDWINO drives with the step in the CNC?
The CHiP includes a battery charging circuit doesn't it? So you can solder on a LiPo and use it out and about. Then again there are plenty of 5V battery packs that connect via USB, and they include a charger circuit. The newer Pi Zero (v1.2) introduced a mini sized camera port. You did a fair review I think... clearly not biased one way or the other.
Thanks for this. And yes, the CHIP has a battery charging circuit as you say, so you can plug in or solder a LiPo.
The CHIP has one huge advantage and that's the ongoing availability by the manufacturer.
While the RPi Zero is great when it comes to function as it should, the company behind unfortunately decided to set this thing on a limited production.
That's also why prices for the board are also almost as high as those for the typical Pi2 and Pi3 boards.
This is true, although both the CHIP and Pi Zero are hard to get hold of. It took me six months to get a CHIP after the order, and I see that are now out of stock until "Q1 2017". In a way this is good -- it indicates demand -- but I think the margins in these boards make their supply problematic for any company.
the pi is a lot better option for me. i have a wifi dongle, an hdmi to normal hdmi cable, a usb hub and a powersupply. i use (a full size) pi as a media center for my living room. i also overclocked it with no problem whatsoever. but the most important for me is the on-board decoder that makes the video playback perfectly buttery smooth.
trouble is the chip computer is in update and not available, unless you buy the pocket one, plus now there is the pi zero W which has wifi. Be interesting to see an update when the chip get reissued against the zero w
All very true. The Pi Zero W is a great value board.
be nice to get past the one at a time, so the re-sellers will then go away
Hi I have the Raspberry Pi Zero with the latest and updated Raspbian installed. It says OMXPlayer is installed when I type it into the terminal but I cant find it on the GUI desktop. I see you have it associated with your video files, could you tell me or point me to a guide that will help me set mine up like this, thanks.
Clear and easy to understand comparison. Very good stuff.
Hello friend!I am facing a problem in my RaspBerry pi zero, it is not recognizing mini wireless touch pad keyboard and another that I have also not, what do I do to solve this?Can you tell me a keyboard or solution?I connect mini keyboard by hub!
It's Firefox - of course it's better than Chrome :)
Just saw a presentation about this thing embedded into the PocketCHIP case. By the time you make the "cheap" computer runnable, it is at least 3 times the cost of Pi3, about 10 times the price of a Pi0 with about the same speed if you want HDMI. 1/4 the speed of a 3B for more money. I guess it has a market niche but I am straining to understand it. The flash that has to be bought tends to level the pricing just a little but, as you say, not changable on CHIP. Limited selection of environments, too.
As always, an excellent, informative presentation.
One update, the Pi0W is out now so $5 extra for the Pi side of the tally. As of May 3, 2018 the CHIP is not available. They claim they will return. I suspect their production run was completely subscribed and they have to go back to the fab to get some more made up. Will see what it looks like next round.
As you say, Pi Zero W is now a far better bet. And the CHIP is no longer available . . .
I thought the chip appeared visibly faster in composite than in HDMI, "snappier" if you will. The adapter drags, it's likely what's wrong in video playback. You should try video playback on the chip without it for a cleaner out the box comparison.
Thanks for the video. I love when I see new videos about SBCs. I love collecting and testing them. I would love to see chromium on an SBC.
Thanks for this -- and you see Chromium in this video. Since the launch of PIXEL, it has been the default browser on the Pi, and is now pre-installed in Raspbian. The LattePanda also happily runs Chrome or Chromium. :)
I have to say for embedded systems I prefer the Pi. I don't need HDMI or networking, or even Bluetooth. I just need the GPIO Pins.
And a big advantage of the pi is: I plug in a SD card with my software, solder some wires on, and it works.
I don't know why, but I prefer Raspberry Pi boards. I think it's the user community which seems to be in the millions with an endless back catalogue of projects, from the very simple to the unbelievably advanced.
Could youb explain why the CHIP can't play video smoothly? I've heard that is because of a video codec or driver. Do you think this can be fixed? Thanks!
The Pi has hardware accelerated h264 decoding, and this is the only reason it plays the video that smoothly.
Is the CHIP actually available yet? Their UK site says out of stock, delivery Q1 2017. Bob
Where i can buy this pleezz lmk what's the easiest way to buy the Shannon have windows installed is it already installed or would it be easier because from what I understand Lennox is free and available to download so I would be able to install that on to the check if it doesn't have OS
is it possible to use a raspberry pi 0 w
without a heatsink?
Yes.
You basically have 2/3rds of an iPhone... for $5. No wonder Apple is worth so much.
what are you smoking? these are great boards, but apple have phones with 4-8 gigs of ram, faster CPUs than mobile intel processors and graphics better than an ps3/xbox 360. add on the 64+ gigs of storage, battery, hi res display, 4k cameras, os...
@@ConsumerOfCringe It's a joke mate. Have a sense of humor :D
But I'm looking for a microcontroller that can interface with an electronic subsystem, provide video and computer connection, with data. So if I hook up that HDMI module to the Chip, I lose all of those GPIO and analog connectors. Actually, I also want video I/O, and it doesn't look like either of these will do both.
Both of these are ARM processors. Chip is Allwinner R8 ARMv7 Cortex-A8. Pi-0 is ARM1176.
Alternatively, an onsite laptop computer, which is what I don't want to drag along, but if I want to do any heavy data storage, I may have to. Neither of these has an external drive port.
Interesting - thanks for the comparison. I think you also may have separate videos on each of these, so I'll have a look at those.
I do indeed have videos on each -- and on a great many other SBCs! Sounds to me like an x86 board like a LattePanda may suit your needs: ruclips.net/video/z5EXNfHYPfQ/видео.html
1:30 TIL pi zero has stacked chips!
The Black Talon All the Raspberry Pi systems use that trick, it's one of the clever signature design choices they made in the original system design.
+Alexander Roderick Actually only the 1st gen Pis did that. Pi 2 and 3 have the RAM on the other side of the PCB.
and it isnt new, chip stacking has been used for years..... long before the first Pi was thought of.
There was uBlock Origin extension on Chome, a lot of time was spent processing the page for ads.
A very good spot. :)
Can I use a 1 TB external HDD using an OTG cable for storage in Raspberry Pi 0?
A 1TB HDD should certainly be usable for storage on a Raspberry Pi. You will need a table that has a standard USB Type A connector at the Raspberry Pi end.
Above, I meant "cable" -- although tables are useful things too.
Community support is probably the most important part for me. Without community support I would have never bough my Pies.
note: I saw you say that some 64Gb cards work on the Pi in fat32. I have formatted my 64Gig and even 128Gb cards with the special formatter (for noobs) and they all work great (I have about 8 Pies that I manage and or own - i lost count)
Thanks for this -- great to hear that 128GB cards work. I've never had one that size to try in a Pi! :)
It now contains a webpage with nightly compiles - over time the archive has become quite big.
They where on sale during black Friday ($32,-) I just had to buy one.
www.amazon.com/SanDisk-microSDXC-Standard-Packaging-SDSQUNC-128G-GN6MA/dp/B010Q57S62/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1485204251&sr=8-2&keywords=128gb+sandisk
Does the Pi run Adblock in its browser? Does that affect webpage loading speed?
Sadly, here in Poland atleast, these things are kinda expensive. For example, Pi Zero costs 60 $. 100 bucks for self contained plug and play gadget. As for CHIP, i could`nt find it anywhere. For 100 $ i can have used 10 YO laptop running WinXP with some power to spare. And i cant get anything ordered from abroad cheaper, do to taxes. Tell me about 5th world country...
Anyhow. Quality upload, as always.
what about the pi zero model w which is the same as the one you are using in this comparison, but with WiFi and bluetooth
This is why the pi zero w was such a huge deal. add "ssh" to the root of the sdcard and "wpa_supplicant.conf" with your network config and use it in projects wireless and headless. Nobody should be using these as computer systems other than like a gameboy or something.
I wonder if you could connect them together for a simple server system?
I have a question what is the best way to clean the port where we connect the power to charge the phones on my case I got a j7 Samsung.
The safest way would be to use an air blower to remove dust/dirt from the port -- there are spray cans or little rubber things you can get. For basic port cleaning, I often use a bit of BluTack, although this cannot get right inside.
Have you updated videos releated with SDR?
i m trying to make a rpi 3b+ computer
should i buy 3b or 3b+
and what is maximum sd card supported or usb storage max
3B+ is a faster board, and the list price is now the same. SD card is I think 32GB, USB as large as available.
@@ExplainingComputers woo thanks can we boot from usb
and where will be storage
in bootable ddevic?
Yes, you can boot a Pi 3B+ from USB, but only FAT32 I think. A Pi 3 can be reprogrammed to boot from USB.
@@ExplainingComputers thanks
does it have blutooth and wifi module
Yes, the Pi 3B and Pi 3 B+ have WiFi and Bluetooth. But please stop posting comments about the Pi 3 on a video about the Pi Zero and CHIP. I for one am getting very confused here. The computers shown in this video cannot boot from USB, and the Pi Zero shown does not have WiFi or Bluetooth!
can you make a video on how to solder the composite video jack to a raspberry pi 0 w
There's a slight mistake with the ports description on the chip, the micro USB port is also an otg port that can provide serial connection to the chip, which is a huge advantage in my use case, I'm a programmer and I'm using the chip as portable programming device and I'm connecting it through one USB port directly to the pc and I can.program at my regular environment without the need to configure everything from scratch every time I'm at new place and the greatest thing about it that's it cross platform I can even use it on winxp and the pi0 from the other hand can be set as ethernet gadget but it requires different settings on different machines plus there no WiFi
Excellent presentation!
Chris i've seen that on raspberry pi zero when you press on the video it automatically starts playing
What did you add on the program i still need to type in terminal on omxplayer
Is there an upgrade or some software?
Thank you
Good spot! :) You need to use a text editor to create a desktop shortcut to the video file, and to specify the program that will launch it (omxplayer as you say). I am struggling to remember the syntax right now -- I am not on a Pi! -- but I think the file has to be created in /home/pi/Desktop
The Raspberry Pi in all of its raspberry goodness.
Christopher, I think the benchmark is quite muddled by the fact that you're using different apps on the two different systems.
I also think the webpage on the chip was likely cached. It was far too fast considering all of the other bottlenecks.
I'm not disputing your conclusion, just offering refinements on the methodology.
Thanks!
I inevitably used different apps on different systems, as there is no available operating system that runs on both computers, nor a common browser. So I am running here what the manufacturers/suppliers intended. The test here is a real-world one of computer systems, not hardware -- or in other words, the combination of hardware and software that real users would run in the real world. People seem to forget that on ARM systems you cannot just "download the same OS" and try it. It does not work that way. The OS and drivers need to be available and compiled for the specific hardware. :) When testing other SBCs I get a similar argument -- the test is no good, why not try using such-and-such an OS on them that happens to run both? (Even though it is a very obscure OS that almost no real world user will ever run). Which might, technically be a "better test" of hardware vs hardware, but is meaningless for real world application. If comparing a Mac and a PC, would you wipe macOS and Windows off them to install Linux to do a better test? I seriously hope not.
I agree that you can't run the same distro on both, because there are custom binary drivers usually involved. But I think you can probably get the same browsers on both.
I figured you were comparing "system" to "system," rather than hardware to hardware.
I would still humbly recommend trying to run the benchmarks on the same apps if at all possible, and not just the same type of app.
Cheers.
I wonder if the video playback is more of a driver issue or built in decoder issue. Sucks but sometimes with low power devices you will have to convert or download videos with codecs that are supported by your onboard decoder :)
Chris, you might want to do a video about thin client computing, meaning using a low power computer to access a remote server to do work, like I'm doing right now. I use a Windows 10 OS in a virtual machine on a Linux server in France, and accessing it from Linux Mint using Remmina RDP client. I use a low power laptop with a 4W Intel Celeron N3160 CPU and 4GB RAM and a 32GB eMMC storage.
Is the performance of the C.H.I.P with the new 3D acceleration firmware update?
This is the CHIP straight out of the box, with the latest OS upgrade to support the HDMI DIP.
@ExplainingComputers
Do you think I can run a smart-home lamp control (433 Mhz sender to control the sokets) with the chip? I need 3 GPIO Pins for that. And as the Chip has wifi this goes fine with me.
This sounds like it would work.
Can u attach a touch screen for the pi 0 and chip sir
You can attach a screen to a Pi Zero, via IC2. But I am not aware of a touchscreen for a P Zero. A Pi 3 A+ has far more options.