@@marcoborrini5243 My point is this is a replacement for all handhelds ever. I personally have bought so many Cheap handhelds to do one thing or the other and it keeps upgrading so you wana get one when the Chinese Market has anything new. Not anymore i will not buy or use any handheld except this.
This is probably the most exciting product I've seen in a while, can't wait to get my hands on one of these! ETA, when you revisit this board please stack it up against the Pi Zero and the Pi 4 in power consumption, as that's one of the biggest draws of the Zero over the full sized Pi in many projects, even moreso sometimes than form-factor. Keep it up!
@@microlinux Thanks, Man! If you happen to get the chance, could you through out some numbers for idle as well and perhaps a mention of methodology (idling on desktop, idling on commandline, HDMI disabled, etc). Big ups!
@@darnell8897 ohh. That is a bit too much haha. I Sorry. Probably ETA will do that measures on next video. I commented just to clarify this is a very low power sbc.
Hey, sorry I missed your reply earlier. Yeah I realize it was a big ask! Thanks for the quick answer to my question about the current draw. Definitely gonna get one of these headed my way.
Thanks for the first look on this. Two quick thoughts.. the Zero W has wifi/bluetooth and might be closer feature set to compare than the native Zero. Also I would love to have seen the power consumption of the Radxa and how that compares. I have couple couple projects where I went with Zero W because it uses a fraction of the energy as other Pi's while only giving up a little performance.
It’s always just as the pi killers start to show up when the pi foundation surprise us with a new board, so I’m looking forward to the next zero model to replace this like the current zero W did the ntc chip, may it rest in pieces…
Spec-wise the CHIP wasn't really better than the Pi 0 though, it just packed a few more features while being a bit bigger. The OS was basically the same as the pi, so the community was never really out of options, whatever was needed, pi stuff mostly applied anyway. It's ironic that what was arguably it's biggest feature ended up killing it, (well, besides being the child of a dead parent company), the goddamn flash that rots away and the online flasher going down with the company!
@Shriadid what do you mean? As I said already, CHIP wasn't really better than the Pi 0, so comparing it to the Pi 0 2 doesn't make any sense, it's an upgraded 0.
I'd never thought I'd say "PiZero Killer" but this might be it. I wonder if Batocera on this board can handle PS1, Dreamcast, Atomiswave/Naomi, and PSP.
Great demo! Love the power, love the emmc, but - the one asterisk on the "same form factor as RPI0" claim is that this board (and the Banana Pi) have components on the bottom, which adds to the effective depth and might make it a deal breaker for folks trying to squeeze it in to small project. I have to imagine it will be fine for a large majority of people. I will certainly be buying a few!
Please include the pricing as well in the next video for the different models when comparing to the Pi Zero and Pi Zero W The reason for why the latter two are popular is because of their very very affordable pricing, I don't think the one you were running is going to be as cheap as they are.
Their very affordable pricing and very low power consumption. With this kind of steroid specs, there's no way this board will scratch a notable percentage off the Pi Zero market, as it will definitely be in a different league in at least one of these categories.
Agreed, people seem to forget that the #1 attraction to the pi is the price, and if your SBC costs 4x to 10x what a pi costs, it is no longer a competing product.
@@maximusdarja Where do you get all this? Pi was never low cost. Only Zero and Pico are affordable. And that 512mb of RAM is very limiting. Pi 4 costs comparably to x86 SoC. #1 attraction was always community and support. If all you care is price, than Orange Pi exists, but something tells me that you'd reevaluate after you try it.
@@Mr.Leeroy I bought my last five pi zeros for 5 usd a piece. But i was speaking in general, where there is this trend of "OMG PI KILLER, look at these stats!" Then when you track down the price it 200 bucks. If you mean my statement about the price being the number one factor for purchase, well that was from the Pi foumdation and those who developed the board. I sbould mentio that the original price goal was 25 usd, and ended up at 35 usd and a pi 4 full kit will run you 80 usd.
@@shlokshah5379 there is already portable hdmi lcd that even come with the case for pi 3/4, for this case the empty space can be useful for other part like battery or just design and make your own case with 3D printer
Damn I just had a look at their forum, this thing is insane. Definitely opens up multitudes of projects with this power to size ratio for their listing prices.
Thats what i have been searching for. pi zero lacks power to do arcades. pi 3 and 4 are to fat for my cotroll stick. android onn box dont work with zero delay.
@@davefarley4318 with a small board you can fit a larger battery.that is an advantage over HDMI.lol it's ok if it does only have HDMI because of optical cables that can be reduces and flattened.also you won't be able to do 4k without hdmi
In 5 more years ETA will be talking about a sbpc the size of a grain of rice: "Easily emulates PS5 but you're going to have to lock it at 60fps...fits nicely into a tyelnol capsule-sized case, I'm running retroarch on it with no problems..." Love your videos dude!
Anyone else impressed by the size of the NIO 12L? Tiny powerhouse with a Genio 1200 chip? The possibilities are intriguing! Hearing about the Nio 12L for a longer time!!!
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One of my favorite things ever made with Pi pcs is the Piboy, which was a emulation handheld in a gameboy chassis and powered by a Pi zero. I'd love to see a new version with this powering it instead.
Okay, for those that don't realize it, this is _basically an Odroid C2_ (which also uses the Amlogic S905 SoC) _in a RPi Zero form factor._ That's basically a RPi 3B+ amount of power. Which is just nuts for the size.
This is amazing. I was recently lamenting that I had a plan for a custom handheld project using an open cell monochrome LCD display, but all the SBCs out there with decent specs are absolute chonkers due to the bulky double-height USB-A and RJ45 ports. No DSI out is annoying, since that's the main way to interface with phone display panels and such, but for something this small, passing that off to a dedicated daughterboard might be feasible. Main challenge from what I can see would actually be setting up the battery. It's only power-in is throughone its USB-OTG port, which means you can't easily plug it into a PC without disconnecting the battery, and that's a giant pain in the arse.
Raspberry Pi Foundation definitely needs a refresh of the Zero form factor. Could they get the power consumption down on the Pi 3 SoC through a die shrink?
The cost difference doesn't make it a "Pi Zero killer". That is like saying a Porsche 911 Turbo is a "Ford Focus killer". It is a similar size, but that is all.
This looks awesome. I used to have a portable pocket wifi storage thingy done on rpi zero w, but it lacked speed in general and was limited to usb 2 speeds. Now with this with better specs and usb 3 there is a lot to be done with it. The questions is: is it compatible with rpi zero w battery modules? usb/lan modules?
Yep, cheapest one is $15 though still very impressive 512MB LPDDR4 with WiFi4/BT4 - 15$ 1GB LPDDR4 with WiFi4/BT4 - 20$ 2GB LPDDR4 with 8GB eMMC, WiFi5/BT5 - 30$ 4GB LPDDR4 with 16GB eMMC, WiFi5/BT5 - 45$
I just finished one fo your older builds, where i put a rasp zero inside an SNES controller. And IMAGINE this thing inside that SNES controller. That would be amazing, and powerful
Expected (but very much subject to change!) price points, as takenfrom the Radxa forums: - 512MB LPDDR4 with WiFi4/BT4 - 15$ - 1GB LPDDR4 with WiFi4/BT4 - 20$ - 2GB LPDDR4 with 8GB eMMC, WiFi5/BT5 - 30$ - 4GB LPDDR4 with 16GB eMMC, WiFi5/BT5 - 45$ Comparable processing power to an Odroid C2 but with more features in less than half the size for less money than a C2 was going for before the C4 came out (which was $46 in the US from Ameridroid).
@@TheNpcNoob I agree. Many are using them for their own security systems and creating their own cloud. SBC computers are more in vogue than we can imagine. Nobody talks about them but mention that you have one, and suddenly you have a new friend. LOL
Love it, but… the first one of these boards that fully utilizes usb-c for power and display is going to get all of my money. It’s okay if it’s a bit bigger… I just want less cables
on a serious note, if radxa gives device source so i can compile android by myself, this would make a nice tiny android tv module that you can camouflage behind a display
@@richarddukard8989 well, you can make a handheld with an HDMI base display. it have mostly cons. a bit more power consumption ( but its low anyway) and a more expensive device. the only pro its that you will have excellent display resolution changes (HDMI displays can handle that much better than DSI) . it is cool for a mini laptop.. but, hdmi displays are expensive ones!
@@richarddukard8989 yes, look. I would look forward for the new pine64 SoM for your handheld. Its just much better than the cm4 abd will work on your device with a proper carrier
Once you have the board powered up, you can disconnect the power cable and run the device purely off of HDMI power. I know it sounds bonkers, but it works... I can do this with devices up to Raspberry Pi 3b+.
Very cool, I wish there was a SBC specifically for 10GBe NAS type of use case. Maybe even to do some transcoding but w/e.. nvme cache slot 2-4 SATA ports sfp+ port built in sipping power even under load (minus the drives of course) I also wonder if this is going to help the plethora of small linux tv boxes out there that are using similar chipsets
Looks fast. Peeked my interest. ETA you mentioned LCD screens with ribbon cables. Can you post a link for one of those? Also I would like to see Batocera running on this thing.
Essentially it's a faster Raspberry Pi 3B+ condensed down to a Raspberry Pi Zero W formfactor with up to (starting from half) 4 times the RAM, eMMC storage on-board, and better bluetooth. Cool.
Oooh if a kit using this SBC to make a handheld emulation console was released I might get it! Id' get the most powerful variant of course, but damn.. such power in a small package! Such power. much wow! I'd like to see Linux on here please! Great video!
I used radxa! It is poor of software available. They design a board and they leave it as is in the market. There are not drivers and there are not good managed repositories. The software is the element that determine a Raspberry killer!!!!!!!!!
That's the problem with these cards. Thousands of them will appear but the software support is what makes the difference for Raspberry Pi. These others seem to be very raw.
I don't know why that would be a "PiZero Killer"! The most common reason people use a PiZero is power consumption, not how well 4k video runs. Unfortunately, power consumption has not been addressed at all.
Yes and no. Rpi is really not that well supported having that much money. Where is the h265 acceleration on his rpi os? 2 years later.. where is the vpu inside the browser? No. I dont think rpi does a good job supporting his boards. With that money.. any maker would make a much better job.
I hope Radxa does a better job of working with the open source community (specifically Armbian) to get their kernel changes for this mainlined than SinoVIP did with the BananaPi M2 Zero.
This has got some stink on it like deep Shenzhen flavor. Hope it has good support. Or, at least better support than the Banana flavor of the same size.
It will have NO support, and will disappear soon after an new zero appears, it doesn't have a SoC that is compatible with any raspberry PI, its dead in the water IMHO.
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That's a seriously cool little board. Lots of potential for SFF projects with it.
Nice seeing you here!
@@logancarlile9321 and you!
hi Jeff and Jeff!
What is up man, I watch all of your videos!
oh my from Jeff to another Jeff. good to see both of you here.
Interesting board but as always it depends on OS and wider software support.
well, mainline linux have open source gpu acceleration already. not VPU tho
Can't wait for this to be put in a portable system
With minor changes you can add it to the DS shell
Hopefully this power in this form factor means we’ll get some good psp style emu handhelds
@@alfiegordon9013 Steam Deck will kill everything and i am glad. Casual 100 plus dollar purchases on these Chinese handhelds do add up.
@@travelwithoutmoving8842 SteamDeck is at least 419$, so what's the point?
@@marcoborrini5243 My point is this is a replacement for all handhelds ever. I personally have bought so many Cheap handhelds to do one thing or the other and it keeps upgrading so you wana get one when the Chinese Market has anything new. Not anymore i will not buy or use any handheld except this.
This is probably the most exciting product I've seen in a while, can't wait to get my hands on one of these!
ETA, when you revisit this board please stack it up against the Pi Zero and the Pi 4 in power consumption, as that's one of the biggest draws of the Zero over the full sized Pi in many projects, even moreso sometimes than form-factor.
Keep it up!
max power consumption is 3 watts, 1.7 watts while gaming and doing video decoding. those are my measures
@@microlinux Thanks, Man!
If you happen to get the chance, could you through out some numbers for idle as well and perhaps a mention of methodology (idling on desktop, idling on commandline, HDMI disabled, etc). Big ups!
@@darnell8897 ohh. That is a bit too much haha. I
Sorry. Probably ETA will do that measures on next video. I commented just to clarify this is a very low power sbc.
Hey, sorry I missed your reply earlier. Yeah I realize it was a big ask! Thanks for the quick answer to my question about the current draw. Definitely gonna get one of these headed my way.
Thanks for the first look on this. Two quick thoughts.. the Zero W has wifi/bluetooth and might be closer feature set to compare than the native Zero. Also I would love to have seen the power consumption of the Radxa and how that compares. I have couple couple projects where I went with Zero W because it uses a fraction of the energy as other Pi's while only giving up a little performance.
been waiting for this board since it was announced
How long?
@SOUL SEEKER Bah Dum TSE!!! Thanks for the laugh!!! LOL
It’s always just as the pi killers start to show up when the pi foundation surprise us with a new board, so I’m looking forward to the next zero model to replace this like the current zero W did the ntc chip, may it rest in pieces…
Lol
Spec-wise the CHIP wasn't really better than the Pi 0 though, it just packed a few more features while being a bit bigger.
The OS was basically the same as the pi, so the community was never really out of options, whatever was needed, pi stuff mostly applied anyway.
It's ironic that what was arguably it's biggest feature ended up killing it, (well, besides being the child of a dead parent company), the goddamn flash that rots away and the online flasher going down with the company!
None of the "pi killers" has ever taken over, particularly with the Retropie crowd as they tend to be missing the large community support
@Shriadid what do you mean?
As I said already, CHIP wasn't really better than the Pi 0, so comparing it to the Pi 0 2 doesn't make any sense, it's an upgraded 0.
@Shriadid 512mb of ram lol....
Really nice little SBC keep up the good work radxa .. and I'm looking forward to seeing your next video on that board ETA Prime
NICE!!! THANKS ETA FOR ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO.
I'd never thought I'd say "PiZero Killer" but this might be it.
I wonder if Batocera on this board can handle PS1, Dreamcast, Atomiswave/Naomi, and PSP.
Probably not
well, I dont know in batocera, on android 9 it it does. I have several videos about it.
is rpi foundation still making zero line up ? when the next model released ?
@@mrwoodcat no official info about that
@@mrwoodcat No word. They are secretive when to comes to their products. We won't know what's new until the day it is released.
Great demo! Love the power, love the emmc, but - the one asterisk on the "same form factor as RPI0" claim is that this board (and the Banana Pi) have components on the bottom, which adds to the effective depth and might make it a deal breaker for folks trying to squeeze it in to small project. I have to imagine it will be fine for a large majority of people. I will certainly be buying a few!
Please include the pricing as well in the next video for the different models when comparing to the Pi Zero and Pi Zero W
The reason for why the latter two are popular is because of their very very affordable pricing, I don't think the one you were running is going to be as cheap as they are.
Their very affordable pricing and very low power consumption. With this kind of steroid specs, there's no way this board will scratch a notable percentage off the Pi Zero market, as it will definitely be in a different league in at least one of these categories.
US$15-45 depending on RAM
Agreed, people seem to forget that the #1 attraction to the pi is the price, and if your SBC costs 4x to 10x what a pi costs, it is no longer a competing product.
@@maximusdarja Where do you get all this?
Pi was never low cost. Only Zero and Pico are affordable. And that 512mb of RAM is very limiting. Pi 4 costs comparably to x86 SoC. #1 attraction was always community and support. If all you care is price, than Orange Pi exists, but something tells me that you'd reevaluate after you try it.
@@Mr.Leeroy I bought my last five pi zeros for 5 usd a piece. But i was speaking in general, where there is this trend of "OMG PI KILLER, look at these stats!" Then when you track down the price it 200 bucks. If you mean my statement about the price being the number one factor for purchase, well that was from the Pi foumdation and those who developed the board. I sbould mentio that the original price goal was 25 usd, and ended up at 35 usd and a pi 4 full kit will run you 80 usd.
Price & Models
512MB LPDDR4 with WiFi4/BT4 - 15$
1GB LPDDR4 with WiFi4/BT4 - 20$
2GB LPDDR4 with 8GB eMMC, WiFi5/BT5 - 30$
4GB LPDDR4 with 16GB eMMC, WiFi5/BT5 - 45$
This is exciting 🙌 More cores, more RAM and more and higher clock speed!! Where can I get one?
My dream handheld, here we come!!
Use a pi4 this isn't powerful enough
@@shlokshah5379 but much more efficient which is most important thing for handheld gadget
@@worldshell2313 yes it can emulate everything that the pi 4 can but I was talking about HDMI and how will you make a handheld from HDMI?
@@shlokshah5379 there is already portable hdmi lcd that even come with the case for pi 3/4, for this case the empty space can be useful for other part like battery or just design and make your own case with 3D printer
The only trusted channel for all sbc. Love the narration ❤️❤️ crisp & clear explanation
Nice SBC product preview video ETAPrime. I always appreciate your SBC ecosystem coverage. Keep up the good work.
Damn I just had a look at their forum, this thing is insane. Definitely opens up multitudes of projects with this power to size ratio for their listing prices.
This would be perfect for a DIY linux phone. Someone just really needs to make an antenna hat for it...
it would be perfect to make handhelds in general like pocket pcs or consoles
And a connector for a screen
no DSI, HDMI interfaces take up space
this device isnt good for handhelds.
@@oiytd5wugho Use it to dock it to a parent pcb.
Oh damn. I was contemplating getting a Zero to stick in a controller. This will be even better.
Ok, hear me out. Stick retro arch on this, add a small joystick and stick this little sucker in a custom case to make a portable gaming machine.
Thats what i have been searching for. pi zero lacks power to do arcades. pi 3 and 4 are to fat for my cotroll stick. android onn box dont work with zero delay.
do want this
@@davefarley4318 with a small board you can fit a larger battery.that is an advantage over HDMI.lol it's ok if it does only have HDMI because of optical cables that can be reduces and flattened.also you won't be able to do 4k without hdmi
In 5 more years ETA will be talking about a sbpc the size of a grain of rice: "Easily emulates PS5 but you're going to have to lock it at 60fps...fits nicely into a tyelnol capsule-sized case, I'm running retroarch on it with no problems..." Love your videos dude!
😁 sounds like ETA prime.
This looks very promising for ultra portable retrogaming/cyberdeck albeit the lack of DSI port. Thanks ETA for bringing it to our attention.
I'm definitely making a keychain computer with this little guy. There's a 0W on there right now but it leaves a lot to be desired.
This would be great for 3 printer builders wanting to run klipper
This looks perfect to use in a handheld......fingers crossed
Anyone else impressed by the size of the NIO 12L? Tiny powerhouse with a Genio 1200 chip? The possibilities are intriguing! Hearing about the Nio 12L for a longer time!!!
Waiting for this video btw amazing Video 👍
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I want this thing to succeed! It's been a long time since a SBC impressed me. Great specs and great performance in such a tiny package.
Amazing video ETA!
I am looking for information to get one in Spain, can you tell me how?
@@androlinux solo se produjeron 100 en la ultima tirada.. para testeo y desarrollo. No entro en producción masiva
@@microlinux Ok, thanks.
You could use this in place of an RPi Zero for projects that use them for some extra oomph. Very neat!
I wonder if I can stick this in my RetroFlag GPi, if it comes with a thing without headers
@16bit Classics yeah, I watched a little more and saw that :/
One of my favorite things ever made with Pi pcs is the Piboy, which was a emulation handheld in a gameboy chassis and powered by a Pi zero. I'd love to see a new version with this powering it instead.
I'd love to see a handheld using this :)
I'd definitely want to see Batocera running on this in another video =)
Very cool...a quad core and 4gb ram board the size of the zero is gonna be AWESOME!
Thanks for this!
Keep em coming!!!!
Okay, for those that don't realize it, this is _basically an Odroid C2_ (which also uses the Amlogic S905 SoC) _in a RPi Zero form factor._ That's basically a RPi 3B+ amount of power. Which is just nuts for the size.
Looks amazing, defo want to see Batocera running on this beast!
A new DIY handhelds fever has started
Yeah ETA should start a hardware github as to joy-con or not to joy-con?
This is amazing. I was recently lamenting that I had a plan for a custom handheld project using an open cell monochrome LCD display, but all the SBCs out there with decent specs are absolute chonkers due to the bulky double-height USB-A and RJ45 ports. No DSI out is annoying, since that's the main way to interface with phone display panels and such, but for something this small, passing that off to a dedicated daughterboard might be feasible.
Main challenge from what I can see would actually be setting up the battery. It's only power-in is throughone its USB-OTG port, which means you can't easily plug it into a PC without disconnecting the battery, and that's a giant pain in the arse.
Think it will work in the Retroflag GPi CASE?
That was my first thought when I saw this video released.
I would like to know as well! Seems a perfect way to get some more systems onto this little platform.
Having asked that question apparently not since it can't output the stuff through the gpio pins.
No, it only output hdmi
Batocera video, please. This is what we are here for.
perfect for a DIY maker Android tablet - Needs to be supported by LineageOS-microG, though, so could be de-Googled for a privacy-respecting Android
So whats gonna be the price for this little guy?
I suspect it'll be more than $10.
Really excited with the portable potential here. I hope you're right, keep us updated!
Finally the video is up, gonna watch it closely! :D
Edit: it's amazing! Run Linux on it!
Damn this little thing really powerful....
Raspberry Pi Foundation definitely needs a refresh of the Zero form factor. Could they get the power consumption down on the Pi 3 SoC through a die shrink?
The cost difference doesn't make it a "Pi Zero killer". That is like saying a Porsche 911 Turbo is a "Ford Focus killer". It is a similar size, but that is all.
This looks awesome. I used to have a portable pocket wifi storage thingy done on rpi zero w, but it lacked speed in general and was limited to usb 2 speeds. Now with this with better specs and usb 3 there is a lot to be done with it. The questions is: is it compatible with rpi zero w battery modules? usb/lan modules?
Vanced user: I see you're a man of culture as well
The Pi Zero is way overdue for an upgrade. Maybe this will get things moving. Of course, I doubt they'd be able to keep that $10 price point.
Yep, cheapest one is $15 though still very impressive
512MB LPDDR4 with WiFi4/BT4 - 15$
1GB LPDDR4 with WiFi4/BT4 - 20$
2GB LPDDR4 with 8GB eMMC, WiFi5/BT5 - 30$
4GB LPDDR4 with 16GB eMMC, WiFi5/BT5 - 45$
I just finished one fo your older builds, where i put a rasp zero inside an SNES controller. And IMAGINE this thing inside that SNES controller. That would be amazing, and powerful
Expected (but very much subject to change!) price points, as takenfrom the Radxa forums:
- 512MB LPDDR4 with WiFi4/BT4 - 15$
- 1GB LPDDR4 with WiFi4/BT4 - 20$
- 2GB LPDDR4 with 8GB eMMC, WiFi5/BT5 - 30$
- 4GB LPDDR4 with 16GB eMMC, WiFi5/BT5 - 45$
Comparable processing power to an Odroid C2 but with more features in less than half the size for less money than a C2 was going for before the C4 came out (which was $46 in the US from Ameridroid).
My mustache is glouries then pink sheep
This is a cool video 👍👍👍
A new SBC!!! I was thinking: “Is that market dying” great to hear new stuff comes out!
I don’t see how the SBC market could be dying, if anything it’s been on a continuous upwards trend.
@@TheNpcNoob I agree. Many are using them for their own security systems and creating their own cloud. SBC computers are more in vogue than we can imagine. Nobody talks about them but mention that you have one, and suddenly you have a new friend. LOL
Love it, but… the first one of these boards that fully utilizes usb-c for power and display is going to get all of my money. It’s okay if it’s a bit bigger… I just want less cables
Oh man! That’s a dream come true!
Who do I need to orally pleasure to buy a preview model🤪
on a serious note, if radxa gives device source so i can compile android by myself, this would make a nice tiny android tv module that you can camouflage behind a display
Love the RUclips Vanced app at 8:41 sweet.
impressive form factor 👍
great video 👍☺️
thanks for sharing your experience with all of us 👍😀
This REALLY needs a GPi cartridge, because that would fucking rule.
That will not works. This puppy only output hdmi.
@@microlinux that's so heartbreaking
@@richarddukard8989 well, you can make a handheld with an HDMI base display. it have mostly cons. a bit more power consumption ( but its low anyway) and a more expensive device. the only pro its that you will have excellent display resolution changes (HDMI displays can handle that much better than DSI) . it is cool for a mini laptop.. but, hdmi displays are expensive ones!
@@microlinux right, but my GPi case had so much potential. It's a shame.
@@richarddukard8989 yes, look. I would look forward for the new pine64 SoM for your handheld. Its just much better than the cm4 abd will work on your device with a proper carrier
Once you have the board powered up, you can disconnect the power cable and run the device purely off of HDMI power. I know it sounds bonkers, but it works... I can do this with devices up to Raspberry Pi 3b+.
These little SoCs are just getting better and better.
Shouldn't this fit in the GPi case?
My thoughts as well. Seems straight forward for someone who knows how to link the interface.
@@HumbugShow I mean it is hard to tell on a video but if it is exactly as bit as the Pi Zero, this should fit inside a cartridge.
Really hoping ETA tries like he did with the Banana Pi.
This form factor with a single Ethernet port would make a perfect sized pihole machine.
Can't wait to get one!~
512MB LPDDR4 with WiFi4/BT4 - 15$
1GB LPDDR4 with WiFi4/BT4 - 20$
2GB LPDDR4 with 8GB eMMC, WiFi5/BT5 - 30$
4GB LPDDR4 with 16GB eMMC, WiFi5/BT5 - 45$
Very cool, I wish there was a SBC specifically for 10GBe NAS type of use case. Maybe even to do some transcoding but w/e..
nvme cache slot
2-4 SATA ports
sfp+ port built in
sipping power even under load (minus the drives of course)
I also wonder if this is going to help the plethora of small linux tv boxes out there that are using similar chipsets
Dead Cells is so fun, Hope you keep using that on future videos
OMG!!! THAT is what we was waiting for!!!!
The EMMC FLASH ROM can be the selling point since the boot up will be faster than booting from SD cards. Pi Zero W will probably be cheaper though.
Amazing content as usual! This looks amazing!! How would this perform as a Steamlink device?
wonder what the price gonna be, a possible mini bar top arcade light version with it
Eagerly waiting for it..
Looks fast. Peeked my interest.
ETA you mentioned LCD screens with ribbon cables. Can you post a link for one of those? Also I would like to see Batocera running on this thing.
great informational video but i was really hoping youd do a power consumption test..
Holy sheet, this is what im looking for my project.
Essentially it's a faster Raspberry Pi 3B+ condensed down to a Raspberry Pi Zero W formfactor with up to (starting from half) 4 times the RAM, eMMC storage on-board, and better bluetooth. Cool.
Thank you for the introduction!
What's the idle power consumption?
Oooh if a kit using this SBC to make a handheld emulation console was released I might get it! Id' get the most powerful variant of course, but damn.. such power in a small package! Such power. much wow! I'd like to see Linux on here please! Great video!
S905x?
This can run EmuElec. That's a nuff said right there.
This thing has serious potential.
Imagine Argon-like case for this with 2tb ssd. Ooooof.
wow usb c! And Cortex A53 this means this is basically a Pi 3 in the Zero size, awesome
I used radxa! It is poor of software available. They design a board and they leave it as is in the market. There are not drivers and there are not good managed repositories. The software is the element that determine a Raspberry killer!!!!!!!!!
That's the problem with these cards. Thousands of them will appear but the software support is what makes the difference for Raspberry Pi. These others seem to be very raw.
I don't know why that would be a "PiZero Killer"!
The most common reason people use a PiZero is power consumption, not how well 4k video runs. Unfortunately, power consumption has not been addressed at all.
I'm impressed. Like really impressed.
Great review, do you think that should work with Gpi case ?
Looking forward to seeing what can be done with this new SBC.
Yo this machine is sick!🤯
4K streaming on this tiny little board, that's just so impressive
1.7 watts while doing that.
These are around the same specs like my Pi3B+!! +eMMC. Fantastic!
Much better specs.
Is the flirc zero case compatible?
I'm interested in headless applications.
I dont think so because the usbc wouldnt like up not to mention any of the chips it would touch.
Kinda diverse youtube recommendations there. 8:48 Komodo? :)
finally a worthy replacement for the Pi Zero W i have taped to the back of my TV
Holy moly that's so much more power than the raspberry pi
The first one of these that has display port over usb C is going to get a lot of my money.
Would this fit into a gpi game boy case and replace the pi 0?
I’m gonna try and see, I need another one so I can despiser the GPIO
I’d imagine, the gpi doesn’t use the usb ports right?
The only thing that can kill any raspi is a huge amount of support and development like a Raspi
Yes and no. Rpi is really not that well supported having that much money. Where is the h265 acceleration on his rpi os? 2 years later.. where is the vpu inside the browser? No. I dont think rpi does a good job supporting his boards. With that money.. any maker would make a much better job.
I hope Radxa does a better job of working with the open source community (specifically Armbian) to get their kernel changes for this mainlined than SinoVIP did with the BananaPi M2 Zero.
This has got some stink on it like deep Shenzhen flavor. Hope it has good support. Or, at least better support than the Banana flavor of the same size.
Lack of support is what usually kills all the Pi competition.
It will have NO support, and will disappear soon after an new zero appears, it doesn't have a SoC that is compatible with any raspberry PI, its dead in the water IMHO.
Nice vid pal 👍
And as it turnes out, the real killer of RPi Zero was RPi Zero... 2