I feel bad for her biological mother because her daughter is emotionally attached to another woman. And mother daughter love may never be there for her.
@Ana Ta no I disagree the daughter should be more compassionate to atleast not be so loving to her kidnapper in front of her moms face. Like she knows that she lost her after 8 hours and to still be loving to the kidnapper SO openly is like putting acid on an already broken heart.
@Jenni Pie Kamiyah is just as much of victim as her mother. Some of you act as if Kamiyah asked to be kidnapped and raised by another woman. Its not her fault that she was not allowed the chance to have the same bond with her bio mother as she does as the woman who took her from her bio mother. She can’t force herself to hate the woman who raised and loved her as her mother. So I think there needs to be some compassion for the innocent child as well.
@@Prince-newyork I understand that and I feel terrible that she went through and I'm not saying she has to stop loving her kidnapper cause she has such a strong bond with what I am saying is not to rub it in her actual moms face like she goes around on interviews saying oh I love my kidnapper and me and my mom are having trouble and though that may be true, to publicize your love of your kidnapper over you mom knowing what she went through is just cruel. I'm not telling her how to feel I'm saying try to keep it private for the sake of her mom cause its hurting her
@Jenni Pie To yall she’s just the kidnapper but to Kamiyah she is the only mother she knows, Kamiyah is the only one who has that mother and daughter bond with her, not y’all,so of coarse you’re going to only see her as the evil woman who stole a child. But that woman manipulated Kamiyah her whole life to have her thinking that she is her mother. I don’t think she’s rubbing it in her bio mothers face but this is just the situation that she is in. The woman she just met as her bio mother, is a stranger to her. I think that they can eventually bond but it is going to take time.
she also had a dad& his family; that was fighting custody. He also lost a daughter but wears a tattoo of the little girl ; that was not his. Gloria used that little girl as a weapon on that man
That poor girl. It doesn’t sound like she had a bad life at all, she developed a bond she wasn’t supposed to have with another. It’s just horrible. As a mom, I can’t even imagine how much this would hurt.
She didn’t have a “bad” life but seems the one she was supposed to have would’ve been better…her mom was a crack head the one who stole her abused her neglected her STOLE her she’s just sticking up for and pretending she’s model mother figure 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Because you were there to know ? Mind your dam business I’m not condoning the fake moms actions but the little said she loves her you can’t just erase love and feelings towards someone she thought was family in seconds get real ..
@@Laughingatyouu Who are you tell him to mind their business I know you’re not talking to me because you don’t know me and we’re on social media like on RUclips play go yell at your kids or something lady I’m a grown adult
I feel like she bonded with her dad so easily because it was something she was missing. But her real mother reminds her of the mother she lost and can’t let go.
that too...she never had a dad!? That's really sad so I'm glad she can have one now...especially that her parents were cery excited about starting a family and taking care of each other...I can only imagine how much pain it caused in their relationship as well..
I feel she bond with the dad bec he probly dnt put no immense pressure on her and just let her be if u look back on iyalana it's like he is afraid to lose her again so he just let her lash out and be disrespectful. Plus the Dad won't feel the same pain as the birth mom either. Men n women deal with emotions differently
Nikki Powell she bonds with her dad because she never had a daddy. This woman is so disrespectful I say woman because she’s almost 21 she’s a woman not a girl.. The fake mom wasn’t strict with her, never taught her any manners and treated her as a friend because that’s what it was for her. She didn’t see her as her child.
the real mother is not as grateful to have her kid returned. As the Dade She is holding on and wrapped up in her pain of lost...and even with the child back...still holding on to angrish instead of focusing on how to slowly and lovely reunite with her kid. That mother is selfish.
@@zanelemofikoe2374 that's just mess up the thinking bec she is young she won't be able to take care of the baby she is damn evil. I dnt know how she slept at night and go to church acting all holy knowing what she did smh. If kamiyah didn't need social security number to get a job kamiyah would not be found bec she wouldn't say anything just that she caught now she acting like she is sorry smh I dnt like kidnappers
I watched this young girl show her ass on Iyanla Saturday. I understand she has to be confused; however, the rage that she directed towards Iyanla Vanzant was disrespectful, and totally out of control. She really needs HELP.
@@belindabillingsley1719 she has all that rage pent up inside her she is taking it out on the wrong person when she should go take it out on Gloria bec she is the one who cause all this mess.
I lost my first baby at 9 months pregnant 😢 and I couldn't imagine taking someone elses baby. I use to hug a teddy bear pretending it was my son and then 11 months later i became pregnant again and had another son who is a healthy 2 year old. I was hurt but not selfish. Edit: thank you so much for your likes and comments. Five years ago this was so taboo to talk about at least in my family so I am happy my story is helping others. I now have a 4 year old son and 2 month old daughter. My son in heaven will be 5 this November 💙 if your grieving the loss of a child trust the process you will make it through.
Wow, the fact that I experienced the same thing last year.. only I haven’t conceived another baby yet but losing a son at 9months.. hugging a bear and pretending it’s him.. it was especially hard when his first birthday came around last month.. but yea kidnapping a child is bizarre and unreal. I could/would never simply because I wouldn’t be able to live with the guilt of lying to the child every day.
Yess tear rolling down my eye now and to see how the lawyer sitting there with his head down is the cherry on top because he is feeling her pain too even though kamiyah is his client
@A A I agree but if she could, I'm sure she would. It just seems that she can't or maybe she tried and her efforts were met with fails. Maybe she tried the slow route.
Yes still get chills through my whole body that was just so deep and she made sure the whole room heard her..I just feel shanara's heart I just wish we could all give her a hug ..the movie and the interview after that kamiyah did had me in tears just had my heart broken into pieces💔😢💜💕💖✨🌹🌹🌻💎😇
Nicole i know right🤔 that chit does something to me.... it seems so sarcastic.. in such a situation..... maybe im taking it wrong... id think say it in a tone so pple can feel ur pain and want to help.... not in a sarcastic type way... but again we dont know nor cant imagine how deep this pain is and we dont know how tf we’d react!
Her biological mom has to feel like she’s crying out to her daughter but that her daughter that she carried and was stolen from her could not hear her. I pray she receives the peace, comfort, love, & support that she needs. And I pray that she and her daughter build a healthy mother and daughter relationship as she desires.
Her mother was 16 when her baby got kidnapped, then kamiyah was 16 when she found out she was kidnapped. Both of their lives forever changed and defined at 16.
keedinah right, I think the biological mother would have been better off not getting back in contact with her. I understand why she did, but it probably made her life worse with this outcome.
@@MsStarryNights Maybe she should have been trained how to handle this. The woman talks about Kimaya likes she's her property but not a functional human being with her own agency.
@@Starkardur Seems like the birth mom is just hurt. And she IS her child, that's something worth more than property. How do you train some1 for something like this. Do you hear yourself?
@@Supade.editorrrr idc IF she was a good mom she’s a ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE person at heart to ever even THINK about ripping someone else’s child away from them for 18 years
Yes, Kamiya has to grow a little more to be able to put this entire LIE -this Debacle in perspective and see how selfish and criminal her abductor is.. regardless of “how well she treated her”! God bless this family
@@deeone5769 No matter how much she "grows", it will never change the fact that Gloria played the role of a loving mother. Deep down Kamiyah will always have that love for her.
It won’t change her stance those memories were very real the love real. Everyone in the situation has to step out of their own shoes. She’ll never full comprehend the feeling of losing a child until you lose one
not only has she ruined that poor girl's life but also her parents and her own man who for 18 years thought she was his daughter. her kidnapper has ruined multiple lives
@@kitchin666 He was. I saw this story on the episode For My Man and though they had separated, they were working as co-parents and he was providing support. He didn't even know the truth until the day that Gloria was arrested
Yea it is horrible and she stole her because she had a miscarriage which is very sad but what I don’t get is if u know what it is to lose a child why put someone else through that same thing
Yeah that's crazy that she stole that child. Gattdamn!! That was cold!! Imagine the first night trying to go to sleep knowing your child is gone/stolen. Smh.....
True. But you know how long it takes to adopt a kid?! You gotta fill out an application for adoption, then your application is processed, you and and friends and families are interviewed, then you and your spouse and family are run through a deep background checks for both criminal and mental health records, and then finally you have to have your approval signed off by a judge
@@Automowdown Yeah that's because they want to make sure they're capable of taking care of a kid and won't use them to get checks from the government, still better than stealing a newborn.
Absolutely. She’s traumatized & the parents want their child to be upset with her bc she was stolen from them which caused them great pains but she can’t to much bc she only knew of the decent life she lived and their bond. She didn’t live the trauma her parents experienced. She just now knows that she’s lived a lie being told she was one person when she wasn’t and being told her family was who they weren’t. Her kidnapper will pay for the pain she’s caused.
I just wish the daughter could see her mother’s perspective too. I get she raised you but to the mom this lady was her worst nightmare. I feel so extremely sorry for her mother! Maybe in time the daughter will show a little more consideration for her moms view of things and they can bond. Like she seems to be able to do with her father.
kimberly dobson i truly hope that’s true and she pays for it. I believe in karma but how long? Her poor mother has lived in hell for so long missing her baby and this Gloria women STILL has her around her finger. Smh. I hope the kidnapper never gets outta jail. Nothing would be enough
Yes indeed my Lord! Her heart had been ripped from her chest... twice! ...because when she thought she got her child back, she had to learn once again, that her child did not return to her, although she stood right in front of her. So close she could touch her; yet so far, she'd never reach her.
@@kobesan42 That's true. We do forget. I'm guilty of that. He copes a lot better than the mother I guess that's why. She can't even accept interviews so I guess we sympathize with her more, not intentionally dismissing the father's grief as well.
@@Blackskye211 I hope she is. Buff watching this new interview, I could only think that she's behaving better is because she's in control. She probably only agreed to do the interview if they referred to Gloria as her mother.
This just happened two years ago. She is a child mentally still , going through a lot psychologically, I see why she more connected to her mom because she’s all she knows and that’s her safe scape.
you cant judge someone who has been through what she has been through. her issue was with iyanla and it's obvious because alexis/kamiyah hasn't had an issue with any other person interviewing her and she is a happy and mature young woman, BUT she ha djust found out she had been kidnapped and iyanla tells her she has to stay in a room and tells her famiyl to leave and not answer her calls? she was forcing her into isolation and she didn't want that of course she reacted now she shouldn;t have reacted how she did it was pretty bad but she was backed into a corner kind of
@@blessed4596 right. I actually feel like this could have turned ugly quickly if Alexis/Kamiyah had of reacted differently when she found out. Gloria lacks empathy, even after getting caught, who knows what she was capable of doing.
She not brainwashed. If somebody out of nowhere told you your mother is not yours, it takes time to process that and figure things out. Each person will not respond the same way.
@Sweet potato Pie She wasn't brainwashed...she was raised by this woman and she grew up knowing this woman as "Mom". The abductor lied and led her to believe that she was her mother. It was terribly wrong what she did but there was no brain-washing involved, just deceit.
@Tony Black it's not really fair to place judgement on her when I'm sure you have no concept of her perspective. This is a crazy, crazy thing to be thrust into, and suddenly the women who raised you and loved you your whole life becomes the "villian". The daughter is a victim here as well, and she coped as well as she could I'm sure. We did hear her perspective of her bio mom, so it's not really fair to put that all on one person.
Bria Barrows thanks you for sharing that, I have a little one on the way and I didn’t even think that was allowed for me to do. Now that you said your pops did it then hell on every nurse like a hawk 😂😂
She's not a robot. She can't just shut off her emotions. She legit thought that was her Mom. I get it. I also understand her biological Mom's reaction. She probably has played a fantasy in her mind every day of how the reunion would be, and sadly it hasn't gone that way. It has to be frustrating
Exactly. These people expect her to just turn her back on the woman who loved and raised her from BIRTH and run into the arms of a total stranger. Yeah thats her birth mom but she is still a stranger.
@@SF-sl7fi I would have so much hatred for her fake momma!!! To know she told her but continued living their life to the fullest and the only reason it ever came out was because of the friend telling law enforcement
Indeed. That's why people need to stop calling it Stockholm'ss Syndrome, because it's not. Alexis was raised by Gloria since she was 8 hours old. She wasn't a toddler who was cognizant that she was being taken away from her mother. She wasn't held captive. She was loved and spoiled by a woman she called "mom."
People don’t understand kids love their parents unconditionally too…idc if they are crack heads abusive alcoholics we never stop loving our parents just as our parents should NEVER ever stop loving us as their kids
So surely you haven't forgiven Europe for kidnapping your ancestors and rearing them up totally opposite of Gloria Williams kidnapped child. Black people in America is psychologically damaged by some kidnappers that never had any good intentions!!!!
I'm a 62 years old and I still cry about my mother because that's something that everybody would love to know is their mother I appreciate you sharing this
The fact that she came and took her out of her mothers arms KNOWING she wasnt bringing her back is bone chilling!! As a mother I could never forgive that kind of evil!
This is a. Bad situation. But I’d welcome Gloria in my home as I love my kids unconditionally. That child loves Gloria I’d have. Thanks the heavens I got my child back and not a body bag.
@@happynoodle9239 Yes because clearly my child would love Gloria and rightfully so! Now I probably wouldn't invite her to the cookout lol, but I wouldn't pressure my child to cut ties or erase her memories because that is completely selfish and sick. I would never put more trauma on my child just to heal my own trauma! I would seek therapy and learn to accept that my child had a whooole life before she reunited with me.
Madison Griffin I agree, I put myself in her shoes and if my Mom (my mother and I are VERY close but we still have our own secrets) told me This, I mean she’s my mom.... i would want to be like “no, don’t tell me that.....” But I am also a mother and I feel for the birth mother, I would feel dead inside.
It was probably the worse case of unintentional manipulation. Gloria probably really and truly loved her as her own child. This wasn't a case of kidnapping that resulted in abuse or where the child knew she was kidnapped. Kamiyah had the best love and family around her so that family bond is with the Williams family and unfortunately her birth mother is still a stranger.........who might be speaking badly about Gloria which probably hurts Kamiyah smh
@@kitt7531 Agreed but she manipulated Kamiyah so she unfortunately probably sees her real mother as the "enemy" for being resentful instead of seeing Gloria as a criminal who kidnapped her. There's an interview with her mom where apparently the JUDGE is allowing Gloria to still contact Kamiyah!!! smh It's a sad story.......
Exactly ! If I found out my mother stole me at this very moment I wouldn't be angry with her not even a little because she's the only mother I ever knew people are quick to judge before putting themselves in someone else's shoes
shes very strong willed and doesn't like being forced to give up the only mother shes ever known . shes doing the best she can . knowing this child personally , shes a great smart young lady
Prolific I feel like they both need sympathy for each other and see it from the other persons side. The mother doesn’t realize Gloria is all kamiyah knows so erasing that isn’t going to be an overnight process
I said the same thing @Prolific, she acts like her mother is supposed to except her calling that bum bitch her mother that really hurts her I feel the mother's pain I can just imagine how she felt when she found out that winch stole her baby it probably took her years for her heart to stop hurting
You cant force this young woman to get over "Gloria" and accept her biological mother. That's all she knows. All she knows is Gloria. It's not like she's not acknowledging her biological mother, but all she knows is the life she live. Yeah she was wrong for taking another person's child.
She can at least be respectful of the fact that her mother has been through hell. Yes it’s traumatic to find out you’ve been kidnapped. But that poor mother.
Her response to the question at 7:26 really resonates with something I've been facing myself. She's a strong young woman in a very difficult situation. I hope that she has a wonderful life, she deserves it.
I feel so badly for her biological mom, she was robbed of her time with her child and will never get that back. She will never see her as her mom because the criminal is her mom. That's so sad. It's heartbreaking just to think about it, almost as if you have to mourn that child while she is right in front of you.
Well, she might eventually love her mom, but is it gonna take time if she does and she might eventually consider her her family but you got understand it’s gonna take time if she does and you people are gonna say that’s hard to do when they realize she is a stranger to her and it’s sad because I do feel bad for that mother because basically, it’s almost like her child died a long time ago and I said to say that’s basically what happened. Her child is like a child Died but she can’t force a relationship with her they both I’ve had any therapy I think they all need therapy to deal with it.
They all definitely need ongoing therapy and spiritual guidance. To try and heal, and teach some of the compassions, love that comes naturally with most mothers and daughters. They all have trauma but different traumas-ITS ALOT to overcome and if therapy isn’t apart of the healing--the situation will get worse
@@tammiepage6489 yes this situation is just unbelievably difficult. I cannot even imagine what they are all dealing with. I’m just hoping they all find their way back to each other.
No she won't, she can never know that, EVER. Unless her child is stolen and given back at 18, she will never know, EVER. Tbh I don't want her to know, stop trying to punish her because she doesn't bond with her donor like she did her Mother. Let's be honest her Mother is Gloria and her biological is her donor. Gloria is her Mother. We always say I watch a dog give birth but that doesn't make her a Mother. A Mother is who cares and raises the child, therefore Gloria is her Mother.
Right.... She does not speak properly. Very immature, street talk but she thinks she is alright! She doesn't realize the in depth of the truth. It sad and i cant stop crying bcz that selfish lady hurt everyone for her selfish emotional unbalanced mental state. No excuses. Lock her ass up 4 LIFE! She ruined everybody's life here. And for the young lady.... She shouldn't have NO contact w this monster!
what if she adopts? then she is still a mother and would still feel empathy towards gloria. There is a difference alexis grew up in a middle class home instead of an underage mother, of course she would prefer growing up in a middle class home.
Kathryn Quintin Gloria stole her. She isn’t a mother. It doesn’t matter if Alexis had a better life with Gloria, she is not the Alexis’ mother biologically or legally. She literally robbed someone else’s chance to be a parent. If Alexis had a child and god forbid if that child was taken from her, she would be in the same position as her real mother.
Imagine finding out one day your entire life was built on a lie. Honestly this is something that Kamiyah will never really heal from but just learn to cope with. This is not a simple case of just turning your feelings or emotions off. This is something that will take years for her to build a true bond and connection with her biological family.
I’ve been through similar but I was legally adopted! I found out I was adopted at the age of 11 and my life changed completely. I was angry bc I felt like I had been living a lie thinking these ppl were my biological family and they weren’t. My grades dropped tremendously and I was very angry with my biological mother for giving me up for adoption and I held a grudge against her for that and I had a mean attitude. So mean that ppl in our local church knew to be cautious before approaching me any kind of way🔥. I had to heal and grow out of that and I did. But I still face abandonment issues today at the age of 32. It’s not an overnight process.
Yes and that’s when she will realize how nasty her kidnapper really is. I don’t care what nobody tell me, I’d be upset. But we all don’t react the same
I honestly feel like with the love she has for Gloria having a child would actually have the opposite effect. I feel like it would push her even closer to Gloria. Also Shanara has/had unrealistic expectations on Alexis/Kamiyah. She didn't seem to understand that she was a perfect stranger to Alexis/Kamiyah and that they weren't going to automatically have that mother daughter bond/closeness. Also that Alexis/Kamiyah may never have any hate or anger towards the woman that raised her.
I totally understand why Kamiyah loves Gloria. That’s the woman who raised her and loves her. She can’t help her feelings. I feel bad for her real mom and dad and I hate that Kamiyah is caught in the middle. What Gloria did was awful!
Gloria is a low down dirty stinking Thief , it takes a horrible person to do that to another person to take their baby that they just had, think about it, she's a horrible!!!! person, and didn't have a bad conscience about it cuz if she did she would have given her back smmfh
I can also understand her being more close to Gloria instead of her real mother. She formed a bond with the other lady. Only time will tell how the relationship will be with her real mother. IT was also not fair to have her case and therapy aired on TV. She needs time to process everything that happened to her. It's a great deal of her lifetime that we are talking about...These kind of things just have to take time.
Y'all cannot be mad at a child for being emotionally connected to the only mother shes ever known. It's definently painful and annoying that she didn't really embrace her bio mom but I honestly felt that she was just trying to "ignore it and make it go away". I couldn't imagine being in her shoes, this entire thing is like a nightmare.
@@leopardking2099 You're being VERY dramatic sir. Justice wasn't served because there is so much pain from all ends. This young lady has an identity crisis, the biological mom is hurt bc her daughter doesn't recognize her as her mom, the baby snatcher is paved as this model citizen but did some sick shit. I mean shall I go on? TF you mean death penalty smart ass?
I mean I can understand just because she was a biological parent she’s a stranger in her eyes, she’s never met this woman and she really has nothing to do with her upbringing besides having her. Her biological mom is like a surrogate to her or an adoptive parent and I’m sure she feels strange being around her as she’s kinda being forced to know a woman she’s never met.
She Let Her Biological Mother In. Her Biological Mother Cursed Her Out & Refused To Talk To Her Because She Still Calls Her Kidnapper Mom. Both Sides Are Understandable But Whether The Girl’s Biological Mother Likes It Or Not, The Kidnapper Unfortunately Raised Her For 18+ Years So She Cant Get Pissed Off At Her Daughter For Having A Relationship With Her Kidnapper Who She Knew As Her Mom For All These Years
@@Jstreet410, exactly!!! THAT'S what people don't seem to understand!! It's so unfortunate... Everyone keeps saying Kamiyah is so disrespectful, but haven't walked in her shoes.
Lucia Garcia she has tried. Unfortunately the bio mom wil not see things from her perspective and understand that she cannot help but consider Gloria her mother
Can’t blame her for calling Gloria mom still. That woman raised her, that’s all she knew her whole life. Gonna take years to build a new life with her bio family.
Right exactly and people saying she's wrong you have to understand that's all she's known all her life and if any of us were in the same position people would understand better..gloria is where all of her memories are at and if she gives Gloria up then she's giving up her childhood memories Gloria and her family are the ones that raised her and know her if they want to know everything about kamiyah they have to go to Gloria's family but they have so much anger that is understandable because anyone would be angry but you have to put that to the side if they want to get to know kamiyah and the 18 yrs that they unfortunately sadly last she knows everything about kamiyah the only thing her bio mom did was spend 9months with kamiyah then she was stolen for 18yrs in such a evil way sadly💔😢
I’d immediately stop calling that woman mom. That woman has manipulated and used that girl for her own selfish needs. People need to really understand what love is. Glory didn’t love that girl one bit she loved her selfish need of her.
@@Kikitil Its called Stockholm Syndrome. It's a psychological disorder that arises when people bond with their kidnappers. It's not that easy for them to immediately stop calling the person that housed, bathed, clothed, fed, financially and emotionally nurtured them. Shes never going to be able to give up those memories and it's wrong for anyone to believe that psychological disorders are that simple.
It's a shame what happened to her but I feel like when she has her own kids that's when she's really going to understand how her biological Mom feels I feel like she's too young and the other woman was really nice to her and raised her as her own but in the end of the day that's not fair to her biological mom but I can only imagine how this must be for her and for her biological mom. I will 🙏🙏🙏 for her and her real family.
Have some empathy for her! SHE is going through SO much trauma because of this. They want her to be instantly THEIRS but that’s not how reunification works. This girl was raised in a very loving home (no matter how wrong) and had NO IDEA anything was wrong.
All I'm saying is that when she has her own child she's really going too understand the love that her mom had for her right when she was born and I'm sure she's going to also understand and know that she ain't going to want nobody not even a nice person to come and steal her child.
And how am I not having empathy for what this girl went through when I just said that I'm going to be praying for her and for her family as well as I cant even imagine what she is going through and been through.
@@jjamesmonroe yes she does need help shes so brainwashed she barely acknowledges the beautiful black woman that gave her life.she was so young she couldn't know the difference between good and evil as most children and sad because many ppl are instigating and enabling her to believe that the evil act could be justified.idc how she was raised the subject at matter is she was stolen and not raised by her mom
Iyanla capitalized off Kamiyahs situation and her pain and exploited her like she did with DMX and all her other guests. Kamiyahs reaction wasnt the nicest but iyanla was dirty for trying to isolate her from her loved ones while being fully aware of what she is enduring. Iyanla been trash
The Pain and suffering the real mother had to go through didn't know if her child was dead or live or probably taken by a predator. Missed out on her childs first words steps and going through purberty graduations sleepless nights and postpartum depression.. Gloria deserve life
Whew! Makes me cry just thinking about it. I have 3 children and I cant imagine missing all those special moments and/or just not even meeting them til they're adults.
I feel for the birth mother who for 18yrs dreamt of finding her missing daughter only to be rejected by her in the end. The kidnapper really established herself as her mother and as such, she is all this poor girl knows and loves. This girl won't ever know what her birth mother is going through until she becomes a mother herself. She will be singing a different a tune. I have no doubt.
All I got to say is, if someone today told my mom wasn’t my biological mom... I would still love her to death. When you share that bond with your mom, it doesn’t go away overnight. I feel so sorry for Alexis. I saw how she acted towards Iyanla but I feel sorry for her. Her whole life.. her family... her name... it’s all been a lie. How do you heal from that as a young woman? God bless her.
I wonder if her reaction to Iyanla was a lashing out to “mother figures” and people in authority that are telling her how to be. This girl went from being Alexis to Kamiyah. That’s confusing as hell. And everyone seems to have an opinion and no understanding smh.
@Anika Butler Yes but her mom was 16 and her own baby was stolen. The kidnapper had a miscarriage and felt so much pain so why put that pain on another person. The kid needs to understand that her "mother" isnt her mother abd is actually a disgusting person
If I learned my mom kidnapped me I would still have a little bond but I would never trust her and probably wouldn't really try to contact her that much
Honestly there is nothing the biological mothercan do other than accept the fact her daughter will forever love her abductor. As hard as it seems she must find the strength to accept this reality because the daughter will not stop loving the woman who raised her. The daughter wants both families to be happy and that is all that can be done at this moment. I pray both families come into terms and the mother heals her pain in time. As a parent I would just be grateful to God that I have finally found my daughter alive and well taken care of.
Naw she clings to her dad because there more like friends. They party, smoke weed and club together but with her momma it's more of a mothering parenting relationship feel and she probably feel she dont need another mother because she already got one
Fucking facts from the two pink lines to the cut of the cord plus I kinda think kamya is not mentally ok idk I am sure phyc has been done but if u don’t get it like somethings not there and a doctor should be working with her to help her live her best life but Gloria needs to be cut out there should have been a no contact order given there’s no reason that there should not have been who cares what kamya wanted or wants it’s what’s best now for her and I hope she’s working closely with a team I truly do cuz she’s not ok if she think ma this is chill .
She still continues to call her and be between her and her biological mother. Kamiyah can’t call her but she can. Knowing their is the difficulty and knowing what you did, why you still calling and being in between them?!
imagine being 16 giving birth to a baby and EIGHT HOURS LATER a woman u trusted takes her. YOUR 16 AND YOUR CHILD HAS BEEN KIDNAPPED. now for eighteen years your dealing with this trauma, thinking ur daughter was tortured raped having her skin peeled off her fingers chopped off or killed. for eighteen years. then they find her. your happy yet she loves and is siding with the woman who caused this pain to her. yes the daughter has gone through some trauma but she clearly loves the woman who caused it. she is a grown woman now. she knows how to act. she could’ve have at least gave her a chance. she found out at 16 she was kidnapped that affected her ofc but not as much as the mom she just wants HER baby back. HER baby is siding with the woman who caused the trauma. you can try to understand her daughter but u cannot side with her when she is siding with a kidnapper
Kamiyah's bio mother was knocked up at 15 by a 23-year-old man who was subsequently sent to prison for statutory rape. A sad beginning, altogether. Meanwhile, how much of the settlement money did Kamiyah's bio mom save for her if she she was found?
@@phyllispough1517 Yes, really. Especially given current DNA and forensic technologies. The likelihood that Kimayah would be located was very possible. For example, one of my first cousins was united with her biological father - even though my aunt's trifling ass was married to my late uncle during the window of conception and for thirty-two years, afterward. Kimayah could've been located by a DNA match, like my cousin, through Ancestry.com, or other reputable DNA companies, without Shanara even looking for her bio daughter, specifically. Shanara Mobley spent her portion of the settlement money faster than "CBS" fired "Jimmy the Greek," back in the day. Meanwhile, she cast aside her daughter because she couldn't understand, or get help in understanding, that she and Kimayah were virtual strangers to each other, despite the birth connection. Shanara, at least, could've followed through with appearing on the "Iyanla, Fix My Life" episode with her daughter and baby's daddy, a convicted rapist, Craig Aiken, since it was she who wrote Miss Iyanla in the first place. It perhaps would've made a difference in Kimayah's acting out on the show, and helped Shanara understand "Stockholm Syndrome" and its effects. Stay safe, mvbo31, RN, MSN/MPH.
@Tiffany F. With all of her good graces im sure she can not forget the loved that was shown to her and that she still has for her, But to hear and see my Real mother in a court room crying and sadden by this turn of events there is no way one will be able to forget this act forgive yes but for get no and a young girl im sure she was raised with values and as a woman who will soon be a mother one day, How can you have pity for the act that was commited when it was all done out of selfishness
Wow both of you ladies should be lawyers the way you both are debating LOL like yollie354 you could be lawyer pollie and Tiffany F you could be lawyer Tiffany :)
It's completely different to not hate someone for affecting your life so drastically & to act as if the effect of that person's actions weren't immoral, illegal & downright unnatural. It's as if she has completely disassociated from reality. That is a dangerous place to be emotionally.
That's what I thought! You don't get released from the hospital the same day you give birth. And they DEFINITELY don't release a newborn the same day! Come on, people...think!
@@bgjblue Right I have 4 children I know better and how come she didn't get additional time for taking child support from that man she said was Kamiyah daddy Charles Manigo Gloria should have been charged for that as well
This is the lady that raised her. This is the same emotions that these children and mothers have that has been in this situation. Strong support and counseling is needed. God bless them all
When I had my first daughter. This 1 nurse kept coming into my room and telling me that I could let her take my daughter to the nursery. Each time, I would tell her "no, thank you". She wasn't crying or anything. The only thing that was interrupting my sleep was that nurse. Sometimes, I think about that. It was just creepy.
Its not creepy. Its called doing her job. The staff probably thought u needed rest. They do that sometimes. They did it to me with my first, second, and third-not my fourth
gospelevans yea, the same happened to me and I was relieved because I was tired and needed a little break. I’d been in labor for over a day and so exhausted. In hindsight, after learning this story, I wouldn’t have let him go. But luckily, my nurse was really a nurse, let me sleep a little, and brought my baby back in about 1.5 hours.
@@clking1908 with that last one, i had 4 children under 4yrs old. All home with me, no childcare. I also had bells palsy. I was soooo tired. After breast feeding, i was like "take him, please"
@@johndean5036 Exactly. Especially since she did a good job at it. I have 3 children. Them calling another woman "mom" on their own warms my heart. They know a mom when they see one. If a woman loved them like I do, Im a happy woman. My children could never have "too much mommying". Like what? Lol
imagine your mom suddenly saying she’s not your real mom, that bond for 18 will never be fully broken and that love will never stop bc she was your mother .
Everyone has there braking point. She's not a child so she knows what she said was wrong. I'm pretty damn sure everything just got to her especially being on a tv show just a year after and everyone putting her on the spotlight
Iyanla caused that response. Her technique is to get people angry on her show. Iyanla wanted her to express feelings that she clearly didn’t have. Kimiyah wasn’t giving her anything to work with so she had to wake her beast side up.
I’m seriously annoyed by Kamiyah. Especially after seeing how she acted on the Inyalah show. Just annoying. Her voice annoys me as well. And not to forget, the way she treats her biological mother is horrible. I don’t feel sorry for this girl at all... you’re so okay with someone who literally stole you... regardless of the so called “upbringing” she provided you with, that shit is never ok. Over this. Not even gonna watch the movie. Carlina White story is worth watching though.
Aliyah 1290 I mean, I just see it as her being illegally adopted - which is horrible but why is it her responsibility as a victim here to drop everything and run to a woman she’s never known? Like does Kamiyah owe her something for just being born? I don’t understand this sudden obsession with filial piety.
@@Hanapetals Her mother is a victim too. She should at least try with her. Kimayah is not the only 1 hurting, but she's selfish and won't even open heart to her birth mom who is still hurting. Kimiyah had a mom all those years, but her mom has been grieving since the day she was born, and unfortunately still is.
Minx Mayhem its an unfortunate situation but why does she owe her birth mother an emotional connection? Last I checked she is her own person and an adult who is free to live her life however she wishes. How is she selfish when she was the one who was kidnapped? Yes her mother is a victim but in that case blame the kidnapper, not the child who was kidnapped lol that’s so backwards
REMIX: How could Gloria Williams look at the pain she caused the mother ANNND FATHER and still choose to keep that child away from her mother ANNND FATHER. Men are human too. Fathers lives matter. 🙏
I think Kimayia feels her mothers pain, that's why she trying to get to know them, but the biological family can't make her choose else they will lose her again. Her biological mother got to be careful what she say about Gloria to Kamiyha and realize Her daughter has made up in her mind to keep Gloria in her life
I feel sick to my stomach...there are so many levels of wrong. The daughter is lost, birthmom is broken, kidnapper is the poster example of selfishness.
Well, the daughter always be lost because of what the kidnapper did and it’s funny because people are still criticizing the daughter to and I’m like hold her she didn’t ask for this. No she didn’t ask for this and she will always be lost. She never she lost a time with her real family and she wasn’t raised in the right family and it’s hard to fathom. Do you know anybody would have a hard time with that they most of us if we realized we weren’t born in the right family or the wrong family took us because we were kidnapped or whatever. How do you deal with that?
Yep. And it's sickening to see all the supporters of the kidnapper just because she was a "decent" mom. The way this culture justifies violation is sickening. This woman destroyed Kamiyah's mother. She is a cruel & cold & calculated human trafficker. If Gloria was a man people would have no sympathy for her.
How can anyone have a hard time grasping that she still loves her "mother"?! That was her mom for all these years, the only mother she ever knew! Just imagine if you found out the mother you've loved your whole life wasn't you mother, would you stop loving her immediately and go running into the arms of complete strangers!? Of course you wouldn't! No one would who had a loving mother which Gloria obviously was, but I also understand her real parents, the pain on both sides must just be fucking awful! Kamiyah's real mother should try to understand her daughters side and not expect her to just drop the love she has for Gloria, even though it must be absolutely heartbreaking for her to accept.
The fact that she still loves her kidnapper isn’t the issue. It’s the fact that she still loves her kidnapper while showing no compassion or sympathy to her parents. It’s weird
She has a daughter. You would think that would make her realize her mother's pain but I guess being raised by a heartless witch made her heartless too.
In the mean time her mother shouldn’t shun her that’s pushing her closer to the kidnapper mom at this point kymiah is suffering the consequences of all this
I feel bad for her biological mother because her daughter is emotionally attached to another woman. And mother daughter love may never be there for her.
@Ana Ta no I disagree the daughter should be more compassionate to atleast not be so loving to her kidnapper in front of her moms face. Like she knows that she lost her after 8 hours and to still be loving to the kidnapper SO openly is like putting acid on an already broken heart.
@@LadyIsTheChamp I'm not saying be fake I'm saying don't do it infront of her face cause it's like pouring lemon on a paper cut x 100000
@Jenni Pie Kamiyah is just as much of victim as her mother. Some of you act as if Kamiyah asked to be kidnapped and raised by another woman. Its not her fault that she was not allowed the chance to have the same bond with her bio mother as she does as the woman who took her from her bio mother. She can’t force herself to hate the woman who raised and loved her as her mother. So I think there needs to be some compassion for the innocent child as well.
@@Prince-newyork I understand that and I feel terrible that she went through and I'm not saying she has to stop loving her kidnapper cause she has such a strong bond with what I am saying is not to rub it in her actual moms face like she goes around on interviews saying oh I love my kidnapper and me and my mom are having trouble and though that may be true, to publicize your love of your kidnapper over you mom knowing what she went through is just cruel. I'm not telling her how to feel I'm saying try to keep it private for the sake of her mom cause its hurting her
@Jenni Pie To yall she’s just the kidnapper but to Kamiyah she is the only mother she knows, Kamiyah is the only one who has that mother and daughter bond with her, not y’all,so of coarse you’re going to only see her as the evil woman who stole a child. But that woman manipulated Kamiyah her whole life to have her thinking that she is her mother. I don’t think she’s rubbing it in her bio mothers face but this is just the situation that she is in. The woman she just met as her bio mother, is a stranger to her. I think that they can eventually bond but it is going to take time.
This is still so sad because a mother lost her child..... and even though she's found she's still lost......
Livia E out of all of these comments yours a real gem you took the words right out my mouth
You said a mouth full sis 🙌🏽
So true
she also had a dad& his family; that was fighting custody. He also lost a daughter but wears a tattoo of the little girl ; that was not his. Gloria used that little girl as a weapon on that man
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You never meant to hurt her? Girl YOU STOLE A DAMN CHILD!
Vernon's Blog LMFAOOOOO BRUH 😂😂😂🤣💀💀💀💀
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🤦🤦🤦🤣🤣🤣🤣 right...you ain't Rob a item from someone, YOU ROBBED A WHOLE CHILD....
a "WHOLE" damn child... like are you serious becky??😂😂
Vernon's Blog They all laughing but nothing in your comment is funny. She really stole a child.
That poor girl. It doesn’t sound like she had a bad life at all, she developed a bond she wasn’t supposed to have with another. It’s just horrible. As a mom, I can’t even imagine how much this would hurt.
She didn’t have a “bad” life but seems the one she was supposed to have would’ve been better…her mom was a crack head the one who stole her abused her neglected her STOLE her she’s just sticking up for and pretending she’s model mother figure 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Because you were there to know ? Mind your dam business I’m not condoning the fake moms actions but the little said she loves her you can’t just erase love and feelings towards someone she thought was family in seconds get real ..
@@Laughingatyouu Who are you tell him to mind their business I know you’re not talking to me because you don’t know me and we’re on social media like on RUclips play go yell at your kids or something lady I’m a grown adult
@@amyalbernaz8687 IM TALKING TO YOU GOOOOFY I SAID WTF I SAID I DO NOT CARE HOW YOU FEEL 😂🤡
@@amyalbernaz8687 Amy shut tf up your not intimidating ish through a screen Karen sit back and relax 😂😂😂😂😐
I feel like she bonded with her dad so easily because it was something she was missing. But her real mother reminds her of the mother she lost and can’t let go.
that too...she never had a dad!? That's really sad so I'm glad she can have one now...especially that her parents were cery excited about starting a family and taking care of each other...I can only imagine how much pain it caused in their relationship as well..
Nailed it
I feel she bond with the dad bec he probly dnt put no immense pressure on her and just let her be if u look back on iyalana it's like he is afraid to lose her again so he just let her lash out and be disrespectful. Plus the
Dad won't feel the same pain as the birth mom either. Men n women deal with emotions differently
Nikki Powell she bonds with her dad because she never had a daddy. This woman is so disrespectful I say woman because she’s almost 21 she’s a woman not a girl.. The fake mom wasn’t strict with her, never taught her any manners and treated her as a friend because that’s what it was for her. She didn’t see her as her child.
the real mother is not as grateful to have her kid returned. As the Dade She is holding on and wrapped up in her pain of lost...and even with the child back...still holding on to angrish instead of focusing on how to slowly and lovely reunite with her kid. That mother is selfish.
EIGHT HOURS OLD she stole this woman’s baby. I’m so hurt and it’s not even my life.
Microphonechecka she thought it would be easier stealing it from a young mom nx
@@zanelemofikoe2374 that's just mess up the thinking bec she is young she won't be able to take care of the baby she is damn evil. I dnt know how she slept at night and go to church acting all holy knowing what she did smh. If kamiyah didn't need social security number to get a job kamiyah would not be found bec she wouldn't say anything just that she caught now she acting like she is sorry smh I dnt like kidnappers
I watched this young girl show her ass on Iyanla Saturday. I understand she has to be confused; however, the rage that she directed towards Iyanla Vanzant was disrespectful, and totally out of control. She really needs HELP.
Her life stopped at that point. It’s not fair.
@@belindabillingsley1719 she has all that rage pent up inside her she is taking it out on the wrong person when she should go take it out on Gloria bec she is the one who cause all this mess.
It’s crazy how the biological mother even sounds like her daughter even though she didn’t raise her
Elijah Silva nature vs nurture
Genes
Genetics darlin
Elijah Silva genetics
She looks and talks just like her mother😍✨💜💖🌻💕
I lost my first baby at 9 months pregnant 😢 and I couldn't imagine taking someone elses baby. I use to hug a teddy bear pretending it was my son and then 11 months later i became pregnant again and had another son who is a healthy 2 year old. I was hurt but not selfish.
Edit: thank you so much for your likes and comments. Five years ago this was so taboo to talk about at least in my family so I am happy my story is helping others. I now have a 4 year old son and 2 month old daughter. My son in heaven will be 5 this November 💙 if your grieving the loss of a child trust the process you will make it through.
I am so sorry you lost your child but I am also glad you gained a child.
Blessings to you 🙏🏾
Thank God
I’m sorry and happy u think this way. Congrats on your blessings
Wow, the fact that I experienced the same thing last year.. only I haven’t conceived another baby yet but losing a son at 9months.. hugging a bear and pretending it’s him.. it was especially hard when his first birthday came around last month.. but yea kidnapping a child is bizarre and unreal. I could/would never simply because I wouldn’t be able to live with the guilt of lying to the child every day.
I feel sorry for the real parents. All the suffering they had to endure.
And still enduring
Her real mom doesn’t care, that lady that stole atleast took care of her
@@pretty896 Stop spewing trash
@@pretty896 that is such an unfair statement. based on what do you say this?
Ron Isley you sure, i haven’t seen one time her mom with her
I still get chills when she says “I am your mother Kamiyah”
Yess tear rolling down my eye now and to see how the lawyer sitting there with his head down is the cherry on top because he is feeling her pain too even though kamiyah is his client
@A A I agree but if she could, I'm sure she would. It just seems that she can't or maybe she tried and her efforts were met with fails. Maybe she tried the slow route.
Yes still get chills through my whole body that was just so deep and she made sure the whole room heard her..I just feel shanara's heart I just wish we could all give her a hug ..the movie and the interview after that kamiyah did had me in tears just had my heart broken into pieces💔😢💜💕💖✨🌹🌹🌻💎😇
Nicole i know right🤔 that chit does something to me.... it seems so sarcastic.. in such a situation..... maybe im taking it wrong... id think say it in a tone so pple can feel ur pain and want to help.... not in a sarcastic type way... but again we dont know nor cant imagine how deep this pain is and we dont know how tf we’d react!
Her biological mom has to feel like she’s crying out to her daughter but that her daughter that she carried and was stolen from her could not hear her. I pray she receives the peace, comfort, love, & support that she needs. And I pray that she and her daughter build a healthy mother and daughter relationship as she desires.
Just imagine how many stories are out here like this that haven't been exposed.😞
Exactly
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AllThat Glamour exactly!!! But it's just like any other thing. You can't possibly catch it all.
Yes such as mine. My baby was stolen too..
@@MelenaSoleil no it wasn't
Her mother was 16 when her baby got kidnapped, then kamiyah was 16 when she found out she was kidnapped. Both of their lives forever changed and defined at 16.
Didn't think of this
The birth mom had to grieve her child twice. So sad.
keedinah right, I think the biological mother would have been better off not getting back in contact with her. I understand why she did, but it probably made her life worse with this outcome.
@@MsStarryNights Maybe she should have been trained how to handle this. The woman talks about Kimaya likes she's her property but not a functional human being with her own agency.
@@Starkardur Seems like the birth mom is just hurt. And she IS her child, that's something worth more than property. How do you train some1 for something like this. Do you hear yourself?
It's soooo unfair
She should not have dived head first in the relationship it was going to take the child sometime to herself and then they should have took baby steps.
I feel so bad for her REAL mother, that woman stole all her firsts with her daughter, 1st steps, 1st word, 1st tooth everything
Right
Truly sad
Kimiyah is my cousin blood or not. Ik she’s not her real mom but she was still a good mom.
@@Supade.editorrrr that lady took someone else’s child, she had to be really low for that.
@@Supade.editorrrr idc IF she was a good mom she’s a ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE person at heart to ever even THINK about ripping someone else’s child away from them for 18 years
I feel so bad for the real mother. That girl not gonna understand how her mother feel till she has a child of her own.
I don’t have any children but I can feel the pain smh this is sick
@@ebonymay7906 ikr
Yes, Kamiya has to grow a little more to be able to put this entire LIE -this Debacle in perspective and see how selfish and criminal her abductor is.. regardless of “how well she treated her”! God bless this family
@@deeone5769 No matter how much she "grows", it will never change the fact that Gloria played the role of a loving mother. Deep down Kamiyah will always have that love for her.
Very true.
When she has her own children she will definitely understand the feelings her biological parents feel. 💜
she will understand but it wont change the love she has for her fake mom
Maybe
I’m sure she understands now but that doesn’t erase the live she has for the woman who was supposed to be her mom ? What’s wrong with you ppl ..
It won’t change her stance those memories were very real the love real. Everyone in the situation has to step out of their own shoes. She’ll never full comprehend the feeling of losing a child until you lose one
Yup. I agree
not only has she ruined that poor girl's life but also her parents and her own man who for 18 years thought she was his daughter. her kidnapper has ruined multiple lives
I just hope the man wasn't paying Gloria child support because then he is really a victim too
The "father" didn't seem the type to pay child support. Doubtful.
@@kitchin666 He was paying child support
@@kitchin666 He was. I saw this story on the episode For My Man and though they had separated, they were working as co-parents and he was providing support. He didn't even know the truth until the day that Gloria was arrested
Ciera Bergman from what was told. He paid child support for Kamiyah
I feel bad for the biological mother. She is still that 16 year old mother in a grown woman’s body.
Sylvia Minnifield when you experience trauma to that depth, mentally you get stuck at that point. I pray she eventually gets it.
Yes...exactly what my thoughts were.
@@ShebaPhD 🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊right
Yup. The daughter is willing. Its the mother that has to heal.
Yes. You can hear it.
Gloria Williams is a monster. How dare you take someone's baby.
Yea it is horrible and she stole her because she had a miscarriage which is very sad but what I don’t get is if u know what it is to lose a child why put someone else through that same thing
@@justplainweird2727 because she was selfish. She didnt care about anyone else besides herself
brenda suhey96 But her baby just died a miscarriage I think it’s sad but this is stupid
She’ was a monster to steal the baby .... but she took good care of the child ... you can’t forget that ,.
Yeah that's crazy that she stole that child. Gattdamn!! That was cold!! Imagine the first night trying to go to sleep knowing your child is gone/stolen. Smh.....
could've just adopted instead of stealing someone else's child
Exactly
exactly someone like this wants someone to feel the pain THEY felt when they lost a child, or when they can’t have one
True. But you know how long it takes to adopt a kid?! You gotta fill out an application for adoption, then your application is processed, you and and friends and families are interviewed, then you and your spouse and family are run through a deep background checks for both criminal and mental health records, and then finally you have to have your approval signed off by a judge
@@Automowdown Yeah that's because they want to make sure they're capable of taking care of a kid and won't use them to get checks from the government, still better than stealing a newborn.
True, but part of her motivations were to keep a man who didn’t want her. She had to make him believe it was his to keep him around.
I can’t imagine not knowing what my baby is going through or who she’s with for 18 years. This poor woman was probably being tortured in her mind. :(
Absolutely. She’s traumatized & the parents want their child to be upset with her bc she was stolen from them which caused them great pains but she can’t to much bc she only knew of the decent life she lived and their bond. She didn’t live the trauma her parents experienced. She just now knows that she’s lived a lie being told she was one person when she wasn’t and being told her family was who they weren’t. Her kidnapper will pay for the pain she’s caused.
I just wish the daughter could see her mother’s perspective too. I get she raised you but to the mom this lady was her worst nightmare. I feel so extremely sorry for her mother! Maybe in time the daughter will show a little more consideration for her moms view of things and they can bond. Like she seems to be able to do with her father.
kimberly dobson i truly hope that’s true and she pays for it. I believe in karma but how long? Her poor mother has lived in hell for so long missing her baby and this Gloria women STILL has her around her finger. Smh. I hope the kidnapper never gets outta jail. Nothing would be enough
My heart still breaks for her biological mother
jojo2times facts bro, like no one gaf about how the dad felt
@@kobesan42 they do but he has a relationship with his child. The mother doesn't
Yes indeed my Lord! Her heart had been ripped from her chest... twice! ...because when she thought she got her child back, she had to learn once again, that her child did not return to her, although she stood right in front of her. So close she could touch her; yet so far, she'd never reach her.
@@kobesan42 That's true. We do forget. I'm guilty of that. He copes a lot better than the mother I guess that's why. She can't even accept interviews so I guess we sympathize with her more, not intentionally dismissing the father's grief as well.
@Bats How?
After the way Kamiah behaved on "fix my life" I can never look at her the same. The only person I truly feel sorry for is her biological mom
M D watching her interview now she seems like she is in a much better place.
@@Blackskye211 I hope she is. Buff watching this new interview, I could only think that she's behaving better is because she's in control. She probably only agreed to do the interview if they referred to Gloria as her mother.
This just happened two years ago. She is a child mentally still , going through a lot psychologically, I see why she more connected to her mom because she’s all she knows and that’s her safe scape.
She was going through a lot
you cant judge someone who has been through what she has been through. her issue was with iyanla and it's obvious because alexis/kamiyah hasn't had an issue with any other person interviewing her and she is a happy and mature young woman, BUT she ha djust found out she had been kidnapped and iyanla tells her she has to stay in a room and tells her famiyl to leave and not answer her calls? she was forcing her into isolation and she didn't want that of course she reacted now she shouldn;t have reacted how she did it was pretty bad but she was backed into a corner kind of
This is so heartbreaking. I feel so sad for the biological mom.
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This mother got robbed of her daughter TWICE. That’s tragic
She tried to fix her relationship by stealing a baby, truly despicable!
What's sad is, most of these women on crime shows like, "For My Man" and "Snapped" they did it to keep or get the man.
And it still failed anyway
@@blessed4596 right. I actually feel like this could have turned ugly quickly if Alexis/Kamiyah had of reacted differently when she found out. Gloria lacks empathy, even after getting caught, who knows what she was capable of doing.
minions arent hapy
This child is so brain washed!! She doesn’t understand how her “mother” was completely insane and robbed the lady of her own damn child!!!
She not brainwashed. If somebody out of nowhere told you your mother is not yours, it takes time to process that and figure things out. Each person will not respond the same way.
@Sweet potato Pie She wasn't brainwashed...she was raised by this woman and she grew up knowing this woman as "Mom". The abductor lied and led her to believe that she was her mother.
It was terribly wrong what she did but there was no brain-washing involved, just deceit.
LaTia Jackson I agree 100%
Tony Black where is your brain, the true victim here is the DAUGHTER!
@Tony Black it's not really fair to place judgement on her when I'm sure you have no concept of her perspective. This is a crazy, crazy thing to be thrust into, and suddenly the women who raised you and loved you your whole life becomes the "villian". The daughter is a victim here as well, and she coped as well as she could I'm sure. We did hear her perspective of her bio mom, so it's not really fair to put that all on one person.
That’s so bold to decide to steal someone else’s baby 😭. The mother lost everything that had to do with raising and watching her child grow
What she did was selfish and evil. This is why my dad went with the nurses everywhere with my bro and I. Can’t trust these people. She’s crazy
Bria Barrows thanks you for sharing that, I have a little one on the way and I didn’t even think that was allowed for me to do. Now that you said your pops did it then hell on every nurse like a hawk 😂😂
@@bamaspeed2057 Yes! So creepy. They can get their shots at the bedside in your room.
@@msch3891 they don't get shots when they are first born. You have to make an appointment at your pediatrician for them.
@Crystal Right. I'm going to keep that in mind when I have a baby.
Yes! My baby had to be rushed away hubby left me and followed my daughter and he brought her to me. He wasn't having that, trust no one.
She's not a robot. She can't just shut off her emotions. She legit thought that was her Mom. I get it. I also understand her biological Mom's reaction. She probably has played a fantasy in her mind every day of how the reunion would be, and sadly it hasn't gone that way. It has to be frustrating
Exactly. These people expect her to just turn her back on the woman who loved and raised her from BIRTH and run into the arms of a total stranger. Yeah thats her birth mom but she is still a stranger.
@@SF-sl7fi I would have so much hatred for her fake momma!!! To know she told her but continued living their life to the fullest and the only reason it ever came out was because of the friend telling law enforcement
Could you imagine someone telling you right now that your mother kidnapped you? I would be confused but I’m not giving up my mom
Indeed. That's why people need to stop calling it Stockholm'ss Syndrome, because it's not. Alexis was raised by Gloria since she was 8 hours old. She wasn't a toddler who was cognizant that she was being taken away from her mother. She wasn't held captive. She was loved and spoiled by a woman she called "mom."
People don’t understand kids love their parents unconditionally too…idc if they are crack heads abusive alcoholics we never stop loving our parents just as our parents should NEVER ever stop loving us as their kids
She cause permanently damage to a a family, it’s really unforgivable.
DeeRayOfSunshine
Yesssssss!! permanent damage!!
Nothing is unforgivable sis. If God can forgive us every moment,what more of us
Quin Bokwe1 literally shut up. she kidnapped someones BABY
Ceren b 😂😂😂like frl
So surely you haven't forgiven
Europe for kidnapping your
ancestors and rearing them up
totally opposite of Gloria Williams
kidnapped child. Black people in
America is psychologically
damaged by some kidnappers that
never had any good intentions!!!!
I'm a 62 years old and I still cry about my mother because that's something that everybody would love to know is their mother I appreciate you sharing this
The fact that she came and took her out of her mothers arms KNOWING she wasnt bringing her back is bone chilling!! As a mother I could never forgive that kind of evil!
As a mother, I would have been so brokenhearted if my son had been taken from me. I would have been inconsolable!
This is a. Bad situation. But I’d welcome Gloria in my home as I love my kids unconditionally. That child loves Gloria I’d have. Thanks the heavens I got my child back and not a body bag.
@@Star-dn3bq gloria is the one who took her baby, you would welcome the one who kidnapped your newborn baby?
@@happynoodle9239 Yes because clearly my child would love Gloria and rightfully so! Now I probably wouldn't invite her to the cookout lol, but I wouldn't pressure my child to cut ties or erase her memories because that is completely selfish and sick. I would never put more trauma on my child just to heal my own trauma! I would seek therapy and learn to accept that my child had a whooole life before she reunited with me.
I honestly understand why she has forgiven Gloria, she’s the only mother she has ever known.
Madison Griffin I agree, I put myself in her shoes and if my
Mom (my mother and I are VERY close but we still have our own secrets) told me
This, I mean she’s my mom.... i would want to be like “no, don’t tell me that.....”
But I am also a mother and I feel for the birth mother, I would feel dead inside.
It was probably the worse case of unintentional manipulation. Gloria probably really and truly loved her as her own child. This wasn't a case of kidnapping that resulted in abuse or where the child knew she was kidnapped. Kamiyah had the best love and family around her so that family bond is with the Williams family and unfortunately her birth mother is still a stranger.........who might be speaking badly about Gloria which probably hurts Kamiyah smh
But Gloria is a kidnapper
@@kitt7531 Agreed but she manipulated Kamiyah so she unfortunately probably sees her real mother as the "enemy" for being resentful instead of seeing Gloria as a criminal who kidnapped her. There's an interview with her mom where apparently the JUDGE is allowing Gloria to still contact Kamiyah!!! smh It's a sad story.......
Exactly ! If I found out my mother stole me at this very moment I wouldn't be angry with her not even a little because she's the only mother I ever knew people are quick to judge before putting themselves in someone else's shoes
This is so sad! I feel so bad for the biological mother …. How cruel and evil do you have to be to steal someone else’s baby.
You would have to be a narcissist to be that evil 😈!
Satan comes to steal, kill, and destroy
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That's the only person I feel sorry for is the biological mother
She need to have more sympathy for her biological mother. Smh. That’s so annoying.
shes very strong willed and doesn't like being forced to give up the only mother shes ever known . shes doing the best she can . knowing this child personally , shes a great smart young lady
Prolific I feel like they both need sympathy for each other and see it from the other persons side. The mother doesn’t realize Gloria is all kamiyah knows so erasing that isn’t going to be an overnight process
I said the same thing @Prolific, she acts like her mother is supposed to except her calling that bum bitch her mother that really hurts her I feel the mother's pain I can just imagine how she felt when she found out that winch stole her baby it probably took her years for her heart to stop hurting
You cant force this young woman to get over "Gloria" and accept her biological mother. That's all she knows. All she knows is Gloria. It's not like she's not acknowledging her biological mother, but all she knows is the life she live. Yeah she was wrong for taking another person's child.
She can at least be respectful of the fact that her mother has been through hell. Yes it’s traumatic to find out you’ve been kidnapped. But that poor mother.
When she has a child of her own she will then understand what her real parents went through.
Kimiya is a child, who really needs counseling.
So factzzzzz
Who you to recommend another person needs counseling? She just need time to bond.
Conscious Wright can you really blame her? That was basically her mom. You think you would be quick to adapt to this kind of change?
Donnell Evans um she’s going through some traumatic things. EVERYONE can benefit from counseling, no matter the situation
Doesn't mean she needs it
Her response to the question at 7:26 really resonates with something I've been facing myself. She's a strong young woman in a very difficult situation. I hope that she has a wonderful life, she deserves it.
I feel so badly for her biological mom, she was robbed of her time with her child and will never get that back. She will never see her as her mom because the criminal is her mom. That's so sad. It's heartbreaking just to think about it, almost as if you have to mourn that child while she is right in front of you.
Well, she might eventually love her mom, but is it gonna take time if she does and she might eventually consider her her family but you got understand it’s gonna take time if she does and you people are gonna say that’s hard to do when they realize she is a stranger to her and it’s sad because I do feel bad for that mother because basically, it’s almost like her child died a long time ago and I said to say that’s basically what happened. Her child is like a child Died but she can’t force a relationship with her they both I’ve had any therapy I think they all need therapy to deal with it.
They all definitely need ongoing therapy and spiritual guidance. To try and heal, and teach some of the compassions, love that comes naturally with most mothers and daughters. They all have trauma but different traumas-ITS ALOT to overcome and if therapy isn’t apart of the healing--the situation will get worse
@@tammiepage6489 yes this situation is just unbelievably difficult. I cannot even imagine what they are all dealing with. I’m just hoping they all find their way back to each other.
@@robinjohnson3365 yes so much to deal with.
That ponytail that gloria had has me dead 💀💀💀💀
Man that's that real struggle ponytail
QUEEN LIBRA 😂😂💀 fr
I am actually at this scene right now 😂😂
That's that I don't got no hair pony tail 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😅
The birth mother was robbed of time and memories she will not get back.
imhereforit huntie shut the FUCK up damn!
And The Daughter
WHEN she becomes a Mother she'll know how her REAL Mother feels.
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💯💯
Facts
if* maybe she doesnt want kids
No she won't, she can never know that, EVER. Unless her child is stolen and given back at 18, she will never know, EVER. Tbh I don't want her to know, stop trying to punish her because she doesn't bond with her donor like she did her Mother. Let's be honest her Mother is Gloria and her biological is her donor. Gloria is her Mother. We always say I watch a dog give birth but that doesn't make her a Mother. A Mother is who cares and raises the child, therefore Gloria is her Mother.
The way the girl talks is low-key annoying to me.
Jonathan Cineus Did you see her on Iyanla fix my life. I understand her frustrations but this child is blatantly disrespectful.
Right it really is
Oeurf
Right.... She does not speak properly. Very immature, street talk but she thinks she is alright! She doesn't realize the in depth of the truth. It sad and i cant stop crying bcz that selfish lady hurt everyone for her selfish emotional unbalanced mental state. No excuses. Lock her ass up 4 LIFE! She ruined everybody's life here. And for the young lady.... She shouldn't have NO contact w this monster!
Jonathan Cineus I like her voice. It’s interesting
She won't understand until she becomes a mother.
D B right?
what if she adopts? then she is still a mother and would still feel empathy towards gloria. There is a difference alexis grew up in a middle class home instead of an underage mother, of course she would prefer growing up in a middle class home.
D B Best comment ever! That’s how it will happen “bless of thé
D B I agree it soooo true
Kathryn Quintin Gloria stole her. She isn’t a mother. It doesn’t matter if Alexis had a better life with Gloria, she is not the Alexis’ mother biologically or legally. She literally robbed someone else’s chance to be a parent. If Alexis had a child and god forbid if that child was taken from her, she would be in the same position as her real mother.
Imagine finding out one day your entire life was built on a lie. Honestly this is something that Kamiyah will never really heal from but just learn to cope with. This is not a simple case of just turning your feelings or emotions off. This is something that will take years for her to build a true bond and connection with her biological family.
True! I believe what you are saying!
I’ve been through similar but I was legally adopted! I found out I was adopted at the age of 11 and my life changed completely. I was angry bc I felt like I had been living a lie thinking these ppl were my biological family and they weren’t. My grades dropped tremendously and I was very angry with my biological mother for giving me up for adoption and I held a grudge against her for that and I had a mean attitude. So mean that ppl in our local church knew to be cautious before approaching me any kind of way🔥. I had to heal and grow out of that and I did. But I still face abandonment issues today at the age of 32. It’s not an overnight process.
kimberly dobson Thanks for sharing Kimberly. I’m glad that your are healing!
EXACTLY!
Exactly
When Kamiyah has her own child she will truly realize the love of motherhood
Yes and that’s when she will realize how nasty her kidnapper really is. I don’t care what nobody tell me, I’d be upset. But we all don’t react the same
@@eatwithego9131 Soo true!! I remember when this happened
I honestly feel like with the love she has for Gloria having a child would actually have the opposite effect. I feel like it would push her even closer to Gloria. Also Shanara has/had unrealistic expectations on Alexis/Kamiyah. She didn't seem to understand that she was a perfect stranger to Alexis/Kamiyah and that they weren't going to automatically have that mother daughter bond/closeness. Also that Alexis/Kamiyah may never have any hate or anger towards the woman that raised her.
Don’t she have 3? I thought I read that
When? Do you not mean If she will have?
I totally understand why Kamiyah loves Gloria. That’s the woman who raised her and loves her. She can’t help her feelings. I feel bad for her real mom and dad and I hate that Kamiyah is caught in the middle. What Gloria did was awful!
Gloria is a low down dirty stinking Thief , it takes a horrible person to do that to another person to take their baby that they just had, think about it, she's a horrible!!!! person, and didn't have a bad conscience about it cuz if she did she would have given her back smmfh
Pacific Ocean You can think what you want about Gloria! It’ll never change how Kamiyah feels! 🤷🏾♀️ Until you’ve experienced it, you’ll never know.
I agree with you actually, I understand that’s her biological mother but she grew to love the woman who took her.
I can also understand her being more close to Gloria instead of her real mother. She formed a bond with the other lady. Only time will tell how the relationship will be with her real mother. IT was also not fair to have her case and therapy aired on TV. She needs time to process everything that happened to her. It's a great deal of her lifetime that we are talking about...These kind of things just have to take time.
Y'all cannot be mad at a child for being emotionally connected to the only mother shes ever known. It's definently painful and annoying that she didn't really embrace her bio mom but I honestly felt that she was just trying to "ignore it and make it go away". I couldn't imagine being in her shoes, this entire thing is like a nightmare.
@Black 716 no u
@@tytyr2576 nice
@@universecubed8221 ikr
*I hate this story so much. Justice was 🗣️NOT SERVED.*
I agree.
@@tajam4769 me too !!
Jessica Beee how was JusticeJustice not served she’s in prison isn’t she what do you want the death penalty?
Jessica Beee She’s locked up , Justice was served.
@@leopardking2099 You're being VERY dramatic sir. Justice wasn't served because there is so much pain from all ends. This young lady has an identity crisis, the biological mom is hurt bc her daughter doesn't recognize her as her mom, the baby snatcher is paved as this model citizen but did some sick shit. I mean shall I go on? TF you mean death penalty smart ass?
I feel bad for her biological mother. May God make the love between Kamaya and her biological mother strong.
She doesn’t let her bio mom in.. thats sucks..
Can you blame her?
I mean I can understand just because she was a biological parent she’s a stranger in her eyes, she’s never met this woman and she really has nothing to do with her upbringing besides having her. Her biological mom is like a surrogate to her or an adoptive parent and I’m sure she feels strange being around her as she’s kinda being forced to know a woman she’s never met.
She Let Her Biological Mother In. Her Biological Mother Cursed Her Out & Refused To Talk To Her Because She Still Calls Her Kidnapper Mom. Both Sides Are Understandable But Whether The Girl’s Biological Mother Likes It Or Not, The Kidnapper Unfortunately Raised Her For 18+ Years So She Cant Get Pissed Off At Her Daughter For Having A Relationship With Her Kidnapper Who She Knew As Her Mom For All These Years
@@Jstreet410, exactly!!!
THAT'S what people don't seem to understand!! It's so unfortunate...
Everyone keeps saying Kamiyah is so disrespectful, but haven't walked in her shoes.
Lucia Garcia she has tried. Unfortunately the bio mom wil not see things from her perspective and understand that she cannot help but consider Gloria her mother
Her voice makes my ears hurt
Same. Didn’t expect her to sound like that
fr
same...
Iammennii
So annoying though
Her voice bo disrespect but its really bad wow annoying. I feel bad for her future husband.
Good, she is pretty calm here, she wasn’t like this on Iyanla.
Right?!?! I said the same thing but you can tell she has matured alot since then
that was the beginning im sure she didnt know what to think or how to feel about her parents
No one is telling her how to feel here or force her to feel a certain way.
LOL 😂😂
Iyanla is toxic....
That is extremely cruel to do to someone. I can’t imagine what the mother went through so soon after giving birth
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Can’t blame her for calling Gloria mom still. That woman raised her, that’s all she knew her whole life. Gonna take years to build a new life with her bio family.
Right exactly and people saying she's wrong you have to understand that's all she's known all her life and if any of us were in the same position people would understand better..gloria is where all of her memories are at and if she gives Gloria up then she's giving up her childhood memories Gloria and her family are the ones that raised her and know her if they want to know everything about kamiyah they have to go to Gloria's family but they have so much anger that is understandable because anyone would be angry but you have to put that to the side if they want to get to know kamiyah and the 18 yrs that they unfortunately sadly last she knows everything about kamiyah the only thing her bio mom did was spend 9months with kamiyah then she was stolen for 18yrs in such a evil way sadly💔😢
I’d immediately stop calling that woman mom. That woman has manipulated and used that girl for her own selfish needs. People need to really understand what love is. Glory didn’t love that girl one bit she loved her selfish need of her.
But it's not fair 2 punish the mother though
I totally agree because that’s all this girl knows and in time she will realize what she wants and it’s truly her choice.
@@Kikitil Its called Stockholm Syndrome. It's a psychological disorder that arises when people bond with their kidnappers. It's not that easy for them to immediately stop calling the person that housed, bathed, clothed, fed, financially and emotionally nurtured them. Shes never going to be able to give up those memories and it's wrong for anyone to believe that psychological disorders are that simple.
When Kamiya has her own child maybe then she will understand how her real mother feels.
There is no bond. When she has a child key word; her child of her own. No one wins pain all over.
No she wont
Yup
Yes
It's a shame what happened to her but I feel like when she has her own kids that's when she's really going to understand how her biological Mom feels I feel like she's too young and the other woman was really nice to her and raised her as her own but in the end of the day that's not fair to her biological mom but I can only imagine how this must be for her and for her biological mom. I will 🙏🙏🙏 for her and her real family.
exactly
Have some empathy for her! SHE is going through SO much trauma because of this. They want her to be instantly THEIRS but that’s not how reunification works. This girl was raised in a very loving home (no matter how wrong) and had NO IDEA anything was wrong.
All I'm saying is that when she has her own child she's really going too understand the love that her mom had for her right when she was born and I'm sure she's going to also understand and know that she ain't going to want nobody not even a nice person to come and steal her child.
And how am I not having empathy for what this girl went through when I just said that I'm going to be praying for her and for her family as well as I cant even imagine what she is going through and been through.
@@Sejkcmj being a liar and telling a man a child that you stole is his is not exactly what loving people do. sorry just the facts here.
She can’t just stop loving the mom that raised her just like she can’t force the relationship with bio mom. It sucks but it is what it is.
She act like she was possessed on fix my life that young lady need serious counseling
@@jjamesmonroe yes she does need help shes so brainwashed she barely acknowledges the beautiful black woman that gave her life.she was so young she couldn't know the difference between good and evil as most children and sad because many ppl are instigating and enabling her to believe that the evil act could be justified.idc how she was raised the subject at matter is she was stolen and not raised by her mom
And I highly doubt a person can have that level of rage without experiencing trauma during childhood.
She is possessed living with that narcissistic/ BDP/ sociopathic/demonic creature
Iyanla capitalized off Kamiyahs situation and her pain and exploited her like she did with DMX and all her other guests. Kamiyahs reaction wasnt the nicest but iyanla was dirty for trying to isolate her from her loved ones while being fully aware of what she is enduring. Iyanla been trash
She’s not ready
The Pain and suffering the real mother had to go through didn't know if her child was dead or live or probably taken by a predator. Missed out on her childs first words steps and going through purberty graduations sleepless nights and postpartum depression.. Gloria deserve life
Whew! Makes me cry just thinking about it. I have 3 children and I cant imagine missing all those special moments and/or just not even meeting them til they're adults.
She does look like her parents. How sad she was denied the experience of being raised by them.
She looks like her dad.
I feel for the birth mother who for 18yrs dreamt of finding her missing daughter only to be rejected by her in the end. The kidnapper really established herself as her mother and as such, she is all this poor girl knows and loves. This girl won't ever know what her birth mother is going through until she becomes a mother herself. She will be singing a different a tune. I have no doubt.
The tone of her voice is so similar to her biological mother.
ikr!
True
I agree she sounds like her biological mother.
They both look alike as well. She has both from her biological mother and father, which she don’t look nothing like her abductor.
I noticed this too
All I got to say is, if someone today told my mom wasn’t my biological mom... I would still love her to death. When you share that bond with your mom, it doesn’t go away overnight. I feel so sorry for Alexis. I saw how she acted towards Iyanla but I feel sorry for her. Her whole life.. her family... her name... it’s all been a lie. How do you heal from that as a young woman? God bless her.
I wonder if her reaction to Iyanla was a lashing out to “mother figures” and people in authority that are telling her how to be. This girl went from being Alexis to Kamiyah. That’s confusing as hell. And everyone seems to have an opinion and no understanding smh.
Now that you put it that way, you're 100% right!
@Anika Butler Yes but her mom was 16 and her own baby was stolen. The kidnapper had a miscarriage and felt so much pain so why put that pain on another person. The kid needs to understand that her "mother" isnt her mother abd is actually a disgusting person
If I learned my mom kidnapped me I would still have a little bond but I would never trust her and probably wouldn't really try to contact her that much
She shouldn’t have been on that show. Lyanla was probably only saw one thing. Ratings. What Kamiyah went through isn’t going to be solved in 24 hours.
I don’t give a damn, how can u steal another’s baby.. that’s just plain evil
Cmnsmoove yes
Agreed
Honestly there is nothing the biological mothercan do other than accept the fact her daughter will forever love her abductor. As hard as it seems she must find the strength to accept this reality because the daughter will not stop loving the woman who raised her. The daughter wants both families to be happy and that is all that can be done at this moment. I pray both families come into terms and the mother heals her pain in time. As a parent I would just be grateful to God that I have finally found my daughter alive and well taken care of.
She need a build a relationship with the girl.
When u say we’ll taken care of you are saying well brain washed cause God Doesn’t Approve kidnapping honey that woman belongs in hell
You nailed it. Seems as if she was well raised, and loved deeply. Yk, "everything happens for a reason"....ijs
Eggsactly. "Well raised". Gona call a duck, a duck. The biological parents look ratchet. 🤷🏾♂️
She clings to her dad cause she never had one smh
Queen Foolie yesss!!! My thoughts also!
Nah cause he childish and wanna be her friend
MissRory662 yes
Naw she clings to her dad because there more like friends. They party, smoke weed and club together but with her momma it's more of a mothering parenting relationship feel and she probably feel she dont need another mother because she already got one
🙏 ahh...thank you.
..someone finally acknowledging the dad as well as the mother.
Until she's a mother herself, she’ll never understand
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MissNancyLondon or she might not want to be a mother which is understanding
Yes exactly what I s said
Fucking facts from the two pink lines to the cut of the cord plus I kinda think kamya is not mentally ok idk I am sure phyc has been done but if u don’t get it like somethings not there and a doctor should be working with her to help her live her best life but Gloria needs to be cut out there should have been a no contact order given there’s no reason that there should not have been who cares what kamya wanted or wants it’s what’s best now for her and I hope she’s working closely with a team I truly do cuz she’s not ok if she think ma this is chill .
Sooooo true
She's Damaged,She's Hurt,and she need Love that she actually can understand.
This story breaks my heart because I can feel the pain from the birth parents that their child was stolen and raised by a stranger who she calls mom.
I am glad Gloria lost her appeal. She is very self absorbed. I saw her telling her life story and she doesn't have any remorse.
What, she appealed??/!!!
I don’t think she’s self absorbed but she is not remorseful
She still continues to call her and be between her and her biological mother. Kamiyah can’t call her but she can. Knowing their is the difficulty and knowing what you did, why you still calling and being in between them?!
She is a monster!
Where did she tell her story?
The one thing that I don’t understand is how nobody she knew saw the news and didn’t realize that sketch was her
That is so true!
Like even the "grandmother" who said one day her daughter had a random baby.
Right like this lady worked at the hospital they should have found her 2 days later wtf
Because she ran away to a different state. This was also before technology was as advanced as it is to this day. Cameras were poor in ‘98
or realized the birthday
It's so sad when lives are destroyed over tryin' to hold on to a man!! Pathetic....😑
So true. The opposite of this are the women who allow that man to do whatever he wants to her child. Sickness.
@intriguing Woman Do a Google search before you come here with that nonsense.
Her personality is so bomb! Love it! Praying for her mommy & the connection between the two; I couldn’t imagine!🙏🏽
Yes her personality 🔥 ❤
imagine being 16 giving birth to a baby and EIGHT HOURS LATER a woman u trusted takes her. YOUR 16 AND YOUR CHILD HAS BEEN KIDNAPPED. now for eighteen years your dealing with this trauma, thinking ur daughter was tortured raped having her skin peeled off her fingers chopped off or killed. for eighteen years. then they find her. your happy yet she loves and is siding with the woman who caused this pain to her.
yes the daughter has gone through some trauma but she clearly loves the woman who caused it. she is a grown woman now. she knows how to act. she could’ve have at least gave her a chance. she found out at 16 she was kidnapped that affected her ofc but not as much as the mom
she just wants HER baby back. HER baby is siding with the woman who caused the trauma. you can try to understand her daughter but u cannot side with her when she is siding with a kidnapper
They're both victims her let's not forget that
Kamiyah's bio mother was knocked up at 15 by a 23-year-old man who was subsequently sent to prison for statutory rape. A sad beginning, altogether. Meanwhile, how much of the settlement money did Kamiyah's bio mom save for her if she she was found?
@@bunniebuns300 um what? So you’re saying that just bc they’re young he child should be taken away and possibly but in an abusive home. Yeah no
@@RN-DNP really I’m sure after 18 years of waiting they probably thought that she was never coming back
@@phyllispough1517 Yes, really. Especially given current DNA and forensic technologies. The likelihood that Kimayah would be located was very possible. For example, one of my first cousins was united with her biological father - even though my aunt's trifling ass was married to my late uncle during the window of conception and for thirty-two years, afterward.
Kimayah could've been located by a DNA match, like my cousin, through Ancestry.com, or other reputable DNA companies, without Shanara even looking for her bio daughter, specifically.
Shanara Mobley spent her portion of the settlement money faster than "CBS" fired "Jimmy the Greek," back in the day. Meanwhile, she cast aside her daughter because she couldn't understand, or get help in understanding, that she and Kimayah were virtual strangers to each other, despite the birth connection. Shanara, at least, could've followed through with appearing on the "Iyanla, Fix My Life" episode with her daughter and baby's daddy, a convicted rapist, Craig Aiken, since it was she who wrote Miss Iyanla in the first place. It perhaps would've made a difference in Kimayah's acting out on the show, and helped Shanara understand "Stockholm Syndrome" and its effects. Stay safe, mvbo31, RN, MSN/MPH.
An Act Like this is un forgivable I don't care how well she treated her
@Tiffany F. With all of her good graces im sure she can not forget the loved that was shown to her and that she still has for her, But to hear and see my Real mother in a court room crying and sadden by this turn of events there is no way one will be able to forget this act forgive yes but for get no and a young girl im sure she was raised with values and as a woman who will soon be a mother one day, How can you have pity for the act that was commited when it was all done out of selfishness
Wow both of you ladies should be lawyers the way you both are debating LOL like yollie354 you could be lawyer pollie and Tiffany F you could be lawyer Tiffany :)
@@sweetemogi8896 Esq Criminal defense since 2001 Burlington County Nj
@Tiffany F. when she herself becomes a mother all this pity talk for the abductor will be thrown out there is nothing like a Mother's love
@Tiffany F. its great Because you can be the one to make a difference one by one you do good for someone in need
The family knew is wasn’t her baby from the start..
I believe this to
i watch the movie in the movie they didn't it's on a ture story
jryj0913 It’s called lying.
@@rauldana7435 mm it's in a true story stupid
@Dezy blue i'm not
It's completely different to not hate someone for affecting your life so drastically & to act as if the effect of that person's actions weren't immoral, illegal & downright unnatural. It's as if she has completely disassociated from reality. That is a dangerous place to be emotionally.
Gloria Williams family had to know something she went into labor at work had a baby on her lunch break Yeah ok
Shantel Goggins I find that strange too
That's what I thought! You don't get released from the hospital the same day you give birth. And they DEFINITELY don't release a newborn the same day! Come on, people...think!
@@bgjblue Right I have 4 children I know better and how come she didn't get additional time for taking child support from that man she said was Kamiyah daddy Charles Manigo Gloria should have been charged for that as well
@@bgjblue they do if u have an at home birth
Shantel Goggins Sis!!!! I mean come on. They had to know that something was a LOT suspicious with that. Smh
I can't imagine what the biological parents when through. That woman is sick to do something like that period!
never forget how disrespectful she was to Iyanla.
she has a young mind, time will heal her
@@rain0069 kidnapper should've raised her to respect her elders.
@@creditrepairgoddessllc4139 she didn't care about that child just needed the company
Shahaad East I cant even look at that girl. She was way too disrespectful
@@CallmeQuayZ she was nasty that's probably why her voice is shot, it's normal for her
This is the lady that raised her. This is the same emotions that these children and mothers have that has been in this situation. Strong support and counseling is needed. God bless them all
When I had my first daughter. This 1 nurse kept coming into my room and telling me that I could let her take my daughter to the nursery. Each time, I would tell her "no, thank you". She wasn't crying or anything. The only thing that was interrupting my sleep was that nurse. Sometimes, I think about that. It was just creepy.
What year was it that you gave birth??
@Jasmine Sweeney She's fine. I wouldn't let that nurse take her out of my room.
Its not creepy. Its called doing her job. The staff probably thought u needed rest. They do that sometimes. They did it to me with my first, second, and third-not my fourth
gospelevans yea, the same happened to me and I was relieved because I was tired and needed a little break. I’d been in labor for over a day and so exhausted. In hindsight, after learning this story, I wouldn’t have let him go. But luckily, my nurse was really a nurse, let me sleep a little, and brought my baby back in about 1.5 hours.
@@clking1908 with that last one, i had 4 children under 4yrs old. All home with me, no childcare. I also had bells palsy. I was soooo tired. After breast feeding, i was like "take him, please"
Kamiyah hurt her birth mom even more when she came back
Shakira Wilder i was hurt with her
She don’t kno her birth mom it will take time
Her birth mother hurt herself expecting something from a child she didnt raise.
@@africanrumpunch7742 Amen. She is the victim, don't get me wrong, but she should know the girl will love the woman the raised her.
@@johndean5036 Exactly. Especially since she did a good job at it. I have 3 children. Them calling another woman "mom" on their own warms my heart. They know a mom when they see one. If a woman loved them like I do, Im a happy woman. My children could never have "too much mommying". Like what? Lol
imagine your mom suddenly saying she’s not your real mom, that bond for 18 will never be fully broken and that love will never stop bc she was your mother .
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I’m praying for the birth mother! I feel the most sorrow for her.
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This is probably one of the most evil crimes to exist period.
Nope it isn’t I saw worst
There is nothing worst to do to a Mother.
Happens more often than you think
What about murders, pedophiles, really? It’s a crime but not the worst.
@@cherylemaybury9967 "one of the most evil crimes" not THE most
I seen this child so disrespectful on Iyanla fix my life. Talked about beating older women up. I feel bad for her but it's no excuse.
Everyone has there braking point. She's not a child so she knows what she said was wrong. I'm pretty damn sure everything just got to her especially being on a tv show just a year after and everyone putting her on the spotlight
Iyanla caused that response. Her technique is to get people angry on her show. Iyanla wanted her to express feelings that she clearly didn’t have. Kimiyah wasn’t giving her anything to work with so she had to wake her beast side up.
None!!! Periodt.
Just watched a few hours ago. 😞😓😥 #Shameful
Exactly she toxic as the fake mother
I’m seriously annoyed by Kamiyah. Especially after seeing how she acted on the Inyalah show. Just annoying. Her voice annoys me as well. And not to forget, the way she treats her biological mother is horrible. I don’t feel sorry for this girl at all... you’re so okay with someone who literally stole you... regardless of the so called “upbringing” she provided you with, that shit is never ok. Over this. Not even gonna watch the movie.
Carlina White story is worth watching though.
Aliyah 1290 I mean, I just see it as her being illegally adopted - which is horrible but why is it her responsibility as a victim here to drop everything and run to a woman she’s never known? Like does Kamiyah owe her something for just being born? I don’t understand this sudden obsession with filial piety.
They’re stories are basically the same.
@@Hanapetals Her mother is a victim too. She should at least try with her. Kimayah is not the only 1 hurting, but she's selfish and won't even open heart to her birth mom who is still hurting. Kimiyah had a mom all those years, but her mom has been grieving since the day she was born, and unfortunately still is.
Minx Mayhem its an unfortunate situation but why does she owe her birth mother an emotional connection? Last I checked she is her own person and an adult who is free to live her life however she wishes. How is she selfish when she was the one who was kidnapped? Yes her mother is a victim but in that case blame the kidnapper, not the child who was kidnapped lol that’s so backwards
You should feel sorry she acts like that cuz of what she been through
I CANNOT imaging the pain the true mother must felt. Wow. My child is NOT leaving the room with anyone. My baby will ALWAYS be with me .
How could Gloria Williams look at the pain she caused that young mother and still choose to keep that child away from her mother
The devil comes in diffrent shapess and sizes
therealsongstress exactly...she influences the girl and she should encourage her to have a relationship and respect her biological mother
And won't cut ties.
REMIX: How could Gloria Williams look at the pain she caused the mother ANNND FATHER and still choose to keep that child away from her mother ANNND FATHER.
Men are human too. Fathers lives matter. 🙏
When she has her own child then she probably will truly feel her mothers pain.
I think Kimayia feels her mothers pain, that's why she trying to get to know them, but the biological family can't make her choose else they will lose her again.
Her biological mother got to be careful what she say about Gloria to Kamiyha and realize Her daughter has made up in her mind to keep Gloria in her life
I feel sick to my stomach...there are so many levels of wrong.
The daughter is lost, birthmom is broken, kidnapper is the poster example of selfishness.
That's why her head bald...just dirty
And baby daddy was 25 when Kamiyah was conceived with her 15 year old mom.
Well, the daughter always be lost because of what the kidnapper did and it’s funny because people are still criticizing the daughter to and I’m like hold her she didn’t ask for this. No she didn’t ask for this and she will always be lost. She never she lost a time with her real family and she wasn’t raised in the right family and it’s hard to fathom. Do you know anybody would have a hard time with that they most of us if we realized we weren’t born in the right family or the wrong family took us because we were kidnapped or whatever. How do you deal with that?
Yep. And it's sickening to see all the supporters of the kidnapper just because she was a "decent" mom. The way this culture justifies violation is sickening. This woman destroyed Kamiyah's mother. She is a cruel & cold & calculated human trafficker. If Gloria was a man people would have no sympathy for her.
How can anyone have a hard time grasping that she still loves her "mother"?! That was her mom for all these years, the only mother she ever knew! Just imagine if you found out the mother you've loved your whole life wasn't you mother, would you stop loving her immediately and go running into the arms of complete strangers!? Of course you wouldn't! No one would who had a loving mother which Gloria obviously was, but I also understand her real parents, the pain on both sides must just be fucking awful! Kamiyah's real mother should try to understand her daughters side and not expect her to just drop the love she has for Gloria, even though it must be absolutely heartbreaking for her to accept.
The fact that she still loves her kidnapper isn’t the issue. It’s the fact that she still loves her kidnapper while showing no compassion or sympathy to her parents. It’s weird
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@@alyssaoliver2135 she’s a child.
@@bigtimecena3676 Teen not a toddler.
Biological mother has every right to hate on kidnapper of her baby!! Stop acting like she is in the wrong !
When she has her own child, then she will come closer to her real mother.
Kashawn Wardlaw if she has her own child*
She has a daughter. You would think that would make her realize her mother's pain but I guess being raised by a heartless witch made her heartless too.
@@justbeingme3415 They didn't mention her having a daughter?????? How old is the child?
@Barbara Von Traumer No see no info on kamiyah Mobley having her own child how old is the child?
In the mean time her mother shouldn’t shun her that’s pushing her closer to the kidnapper mom at this point kymiah is suffering the consequences of all this
She hasn’t even realized the level of trauma she has endured and she will with time.
Right
godsheals90 because to her it isn't trauma
She ain’t endure no trauma
She is a mess. I don't understand why this girl isn't in therapy.
This is a kind of evil that..really can't be reversed, fixed or anything. They're going to just have to live with this.
She needs to have a child first before she can grasp the kind of pain her bio mum feels. Right now she's just a kid.
Catherine Garcia really ... and the fact that kamiyah is attached to the kidnapper