The reason Yuzei not doing Scrap Mechanic is the same reason kAN can't do TrailMakers, their videos dip in views. (for ScrapMan this is vice versa he built his channel on scrap mechanic but if you look at the recent year numbers, trailmakers content brought the most views for him.) so more than a personal choice, it's a business decision... 🤔 (I mean, I love scrap mechanic... if they make more videos on that, it's a win for me!)
here's an idea: spleef but Kan is right, your car is better. but it could be better in just one aspect, and someone else's is better in another way, etc, etc.
Character classes! Could have a lot of options for that: One is faster, one turns sharper, one has extra wheels, one can temporarily disable its guns, and the lime green one is totally normal.
Omg like his "over powered" vids, He could have an overpowered spleef car vs the other guys in their normal cars!. that could be fun :D give them "Respawns" and whoever lasts longest in the overpowered car wins.
@@pascal2085 Faster speed, Faster turn radius, Bigger wheels, More guns, Directed guns, Limited Flight soo it can have a chance to stay on platforms like a "Double jump". more weight so it can push the little cars around/out of the way. maybe it could have a player mounted turret :D, let it set explosives.. be able to turn its guns on/off at will. maybe extending arms so it can try and "Catch" itself from falling down.
Same it took the third round when the camera zoomed in on yzuie and I saw it was yuzie and not kosmo ( edit 1 it was kosmo who played slpeef mm not moonbo my bad )
I was 1/4 thru the video before I realized the third voice was Yuzei instead of Kosmo lol! Glad to see more of him on the channel too, especially on SM
@@concretemathematics414 YUZEI IS KOSMO!!! I mean, there are facts to back this, the fact that they both sound the same and even have the same amount of characters in their name!
An indestructable room below the arena for the spud grenades would be fun. That way, if they fall through, they'll keep bouncing around, cutting into the arena above. :)
ANOTHER Spleef Idea: Remeber you once did a Multiplayer Monday in which you attached spud guns to your wheels? Yeah. Spudgunwheelspleef. And maybe one on each wheel coz i dont think its gonna be same frequency of hits.
17:36 could have probably made the mines stay in by rigging the thrusters up opposite. Basically the distance sensor triggering a thruster on the opposite side, if it does not detect blocks. Should make them tumble across the ceiling, I think?
Spleef, but there is a rumba, that drive on the ceiling (so it's will live until end) and shoots wide ray of potato (maybe you can try with a DVD icon that bounces off the walls like on old TV, sensors on each side that connected to XOR, that connected to challenge pistons)
Huh.. First Moonbo, then Kosmo and now we have Yzuei... Man imagine the episode with 5 players again but in Spleef Arena. That'll be total chaos for sure
Here is an idea, based on the pistons you used here, I was thinking of an arena where it gets smaller as time runs. Like right from the start, the arena gets slowly getting destroyed by pistons below/on top.
I have a suggestion. My idea is for you to make a walker of some sort like the one you made 6 years ago but the walking mechanic has something to do with power couplings. Also another idea is to recreate your very first builds ( ex: first car, boat, plane. etc)
You could try mixing this and the vertical spleef wall idea, make the walls out of cardboard too and have transitional pieces to go from wall to wall, or wall to floor.. Like a 3D Spleef Box
Yzuei! Welcome to Spleef! :D Pro Tip: Always watch out for KaN, he's a k'niving mind. ;) Also, is it just me, or has it been awhile since Scrap won on one of his own Spleef Arena Builds...? :P
I was watching your last video and had a good idea. Dogfights but every round we add more weight. Seeing as how that plane was so difficult to fly it could be quite interesting.
Really enjoy the randomness. I think it might be fun having one (or two) dynamite launchers randomly throwing explosives into the arena would be interesting. You could use the launcher Kan has built for the ball mace.
Definitely should have Yuzei as a regular part of MPM going forward if he can make it. Yuzei is awesome. Also where has Moonbo been? Just conflicting schedules?
It'd be pretty cool if you redid this challenge but have it so buttons are on top and can be shot (or cardboard cars so that it falls apart) but the buttons can be messed with (like switches to constantly have you turn left)
Idea for future spleef: have SAWS on pistons or whatever under the arena that cross the map at designated times! That should be much more dangerous than random spuds fying around and it would make it extra hard to predict which parts of the arena are gonna fall off.
The reason the pistons flicker is because every time the creation they are on gets updated (e.g. a block gets placed or destroyed) the pistons reset and then update. It doesn’t change anything to how the pistons function, just makes them flicker
this looked really fun. I think it would be cool if there was a phase where one of those drones spawned but just starts spawning occasional explosives. or something along those lines :P
Hear me out, vehicles vs God. Three people build vehicles and then either complete challenges or races on something like race island, and then one person hosts the game and messes with the session settings. For example, you could do a boat race, and then the “god” changes the wave settings to mess with the racers. Or maybe car races but the host messes with the gravity. You could take turns being the host or do it like you did the Hide & seek or the spleef maps, with the different video from each channel. It would be a really fun and interesting video to watch. (Trailmakers)
Scrapman, you should give Kan what he wants. Make a Spleef challenge where all the vehicles have different quirks. change the tires, change the speeds, have a randomizer to change the speed. Make the wheels extend outward and maybe upward. Things like that.
Separate ideas (combine as desired): Cube map. Replace the armored glass with breakable glass. Make the cars capable of driving up onto the walls and the ceiling. Start giving Kan an engine with a 1 higher speed rating, and a 4th gun, but it still looks identical to the other cars. He will want another car and you can take his better car. Make all the cars look different so that it looks like they have different performance, but are actually identical. Spud guns on bearings that slowly sweep back and forth 45 degrees.
You could do "shark attack spleef" one player is drives upside-down under the arena, the other players are on the top with spud guns. The "shark" is trying to cut the players out before the players cut them out. You could make the players drive a "boat" on the top that is slower, with the shark moving faster and possibly wider set of guns. The those on the boat lack speed (but the shark has a harder time knowing where they are),well being able to be more precise with where they want to destroy
This has to be the best one sofar! I feel like you could have made the drones look for the height of the ceiling? maybe painting the roof orange and have them drive towards orange until 0 then fall for a couple second and repeat. in theory if they always flew up until they hit orange = 0 and stop their engine for 1s they would fall down to a set distance based off scrap mechanics specific gravity.
Spleef Idea: Divide the arena into 16 parts and add thrusters that can barley make the cardboard Hover at the smae hieght so that you can set up traps. The variability in the weight that depends on how you cut the cardboard and the height difference could be interesting Or make it actually hover with auto correction (somehow) and itll be good too!
Scrap man, you should troll Kan one of these days by making all of the vehicles have a hidden switch that makes em better. Let everyone EXCEPT for Kan know of it
If you do this floating mine thing again, put a glass room, like the map flipped upside down under the spleef, so the mines can't escape and the players still fall through the spleef arena.
Do a spleef game where its just a gigantic arena, and you can make your own creation with the twist being NO RULES. Flippers, pushers, anything is allowed, 1, 10 or 100 spud guns? No problem.
I think we need to see a bigger arena with these drones combined with the multiple controllable spud guns on the vehicles. Not sure how the computer hardware will handle that, but it would be pure chaos.
Idea for Team Spleef: The arena is a grid of red and blue cardboard, maybe like 8x8 sized grid tiles. There are two teams of two. On each team, one person can only cut out blue carboard and the other can only cut out red carboard.
Honestly, I'm still curious how some of these MM games might work in Space Engineers... 'cos on the one hand, the game is a bit more complicated (have to keep gravity and a bunch of other stuff into account), but on the other hand... no Multiplayer delay (or at least, nowhere near as severe as Scrap Mechanic, I tried it with some friends and idk how you guys even play with it)
Spleef ideas: Spleef but you make your own car, ofc there's gonna be limits like engine speed, # of spud guns, etc. or spleef but there's bots, taking inspiration from kAN, but there is still the regular 3 people with the addition of 3 bots too, or spleef but you have machineguns.
It could be fun to have a setup at the back of the car where you have two sets of guns on either side of the car, so you are cutting out lanes as you drive.
I wonder if it's actually possible to make a self destroying spleef arena so that none of the cars have guns but the floor is still destroyed in a random pattern that always changes.
You should build a spleef arena with hidden pillars, that get detached over time So sections that have been cut out, but were still supported would randomly fall
I was hoping for Yzuei to show up in Scrap Mechanic, but as a fourth filling in for Moonbo, not a third filling in for Kosmo. I miss four-player Multiplayer Mondays.
Make a very colourful arena but but sensors on the bottom of your cars and make them colour coded to a random colour, then add a logic explosive and hook all the sensors into the logic gate into the gun pointing at the explosive. And to make it funnier make the colour on your car (the colour that make you explode) more rare than other colours
Because KAN keeps taking your car in spleef, you should consider putting an extra switch into only your car that wont activate for a couple minutes, and simply just blows it up as a trap for KAN
I think the pistons are flashing because the game tries to re-render them every time a cardboard block is destroyed. If you put them on a separate creation, I think they won't blink anymore.
Add an indestructible layer like 20 blocks lower than the spleef floor so the flying mines don't get lost. They'll keep shooting from below. If you fall you still lose.
Or, have more cars below, that only shoot up. Then when someone falls they still lose, but they get to drive around below and try to knock the surviving players out by shooting up.
I'd like to see this again, but no guns on the cars. Let the arena slowly dissolve away. You can probably get away with boxing in the mines about the arena, and having a grid that they can shoot through, but not fly through. They're pretty big, so the holes don't even need to be very small to keep them caged.
Make an arena that has walls around it but the entire floor extends beyond the wall and is held by a single block. Above the block is a spud gun on a 2.5min timer. The players can't cut out this block because of the walls but if there is no winner in 2.5min, the entire floor falls and the arena wins a round
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I'm not a regular trailmakers watcher, but Yzuei really deserves more love in scrap mechanic videos.
He can come play scrap mechanic more, i dont like like tralmakers anymore
@@tomas5059-u6bwhy don't you like trailmakers?
We all love moonbo too hes one of my favs. Kosmo is funny to. But moonbo is my fav
The reason Yuzei not doing Scrap Mechanic is the same reason kAN can't do TrailMakers, their videos dip in views. (for ScrapMan this is vice versa he built his channel on scrap mechanic but if you look at the recent year numbers, trailmakers content brought the most views for him.) so more than a personal choice, it's a business decision... 🤔
(I mean, I love scrap mechanic... if they make more videos on that, it's a win for me!)
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here's an idea: spleef but Kan is right, your car is better.
but it could be better in just one aspect, and someone else's is better in another way, etc, etc.
Character classes!
Could have a lot of options for that:
One is faster, one turns sharper, one has extra wheels, one can temporarily disable its guns, and the lime green one is totally normal.
Love this idea of character classes for cars.
Omg like his "over powered" vids, He could have an overpowered spleef car vs the other guys in their normal cars!. that could be fun :D give them "Respawns" and whoever lasts longest in the overpowered car wins.
How would a car be "better" in spleef?
@@pascal2085 Faster speed, Faster turn radius, Bigger wheels, More guns, Directed guns, Limited Flight soo it can have a chance to stay on platforms like a "Double jump". more weight so it can push the little cars around/out of the way. maybe it could have a player mounted turret :D, let it set explosives.. be able to turn its guns on/off at will. maybe extending arms so it can try and "Catch" itself from falling down.
Do ScrapMechanic Hide'N'Seek again. PLEASE. Or King Of The Hill/Capture The Flag in Trailmakers, that was fun to watch. Participate with Yzuei.
KoTH/Dethrone gets my vote - been wanting more for years
Yes more KOTH/Dethrone!! this game is amazing
For the other guys who play with scrap man, anything trailmakers related doesn't do nearly as good as scrap mechanic
Here's the trick. MM doesn't have to be the same game on everyone's channel.
@@shadowalker4955 but Yzuei and his friends do well
oh wow i didnt expect Yzuei in Scrap mechanic
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Same it took the third round when the camera zoomed in on yzuie and I saw it was yuzie and not kosmo ( edit 1 it was kosmo who played slpeef mm not moonbo my bad )
@@StephenMitchell-j1w Recently its mostly Kosmo but they had a ton of other creators on the multiplayer monday
@@StephenMitchell-j1w ya I thought it was moonbo. Kinda sounds like him
He sounds like kosmo tho
I was 1/4 thru the video before I realized the third voice was Yuzei instead of Kosmo lol! Glad to see more of him on the channel too, especially on SM
Me to lol
I have a theory
@@Akawump what's your theory?
@@concretemathematics414 YUZEI IS KOSMO!!! I mean, there are facts to back this, the fact that they both sound the same and even have the same amount of characters in their name!
@@Akawump i mean, we've seen pictures of both people and they look nothing alike. but i will say, for this video, they sounded the exact same
Full complexity hovercraft ar drone battle would be insane, maybe even flying tanks
An indestructable room below the arena for the spud grenades would be fun. That way, if they fall through, they'll keep bouncing around, cutting into the arena above. :)
Yuzi graduating to the multiplayer Monday stage! This one was awesome! Great idea scrap!
ANOTHER Spleef Idea: Remeber you once did a Multiplayer Monday in which you attached spud guns to your wheels? Yeah. Spudgunwheelspleef. And maybe one on each wheel coz i dont think its gonna be same frequency of hits.
Honestly i wonder how rhat would go
17:36 could have probably made the mines stay in by rigging the thrusters up opposite. Basically the distance sensor triggering a thruster on the opposite side, if it does not detect blocks. Should make them tumble across the ceiling, I think?
Spleef, but there is a rumba, that drive on the ceiling (so it's will live until end) and shoots wide ray of potato
(maybe you can try with a DVD icon that bounces off the walls like on old TV, sensors on each side that connected to XOR, that connected to challenge pistons)
Huh.. First Moonbo, then Kosmo and now we have Yzuei... Man imagine the episode with 5 players again but in Spleef Arena. That'll be total chaos for sure
Here is an idea, based on the pistons you used here, I was thinking of an arena where it gets smaller as time runs. Like right from the start, the arena gets slowly getting destroyed by pistons below/on top.
I have a suggestion. My idea is for you to make a walker of some sort like the one you made 6 years ago but the walking mechanic has something to do with power couplings. Also another idea is to recreate your very first builds ( ex: first car, boat, plane. etc)
You could try mixing this and the vertical spleef wall idea, make the walls out of cardboard too and have transitional pieces to go from wall to wall, or wall to floor.. Like a 3D Spleef Box
Spleef idea
The gimmick is like the zone from battle Royale games where parts of the map that get cut off automatically as the round goes on
finally a spleef that sounds interesting
I only realised that Yzuei was playing Scrap Mechanic about 2.5 minutes into the video, I was rather surprised. :)
Yzuei! Welcome to Spleef! :D
Pro Tip: Always watch out for KaN, he's a k'niving mind. ;)
Also, is it just me, or has it been awhile since Scrap won on one of his own Spleef Arena Builds...? :P
I was watching your last video and had a good idea. Dogfights but every round we add more weight. Seeing as how that plane was so difficult to fly it could be quite interesting.
Really enjoy the randomness. I think it might be fun having one (or two) dynamite launchers randomly throwing explosives into the arena would be interesting.
You could use the launcher Kan has built for the ball mace.
man i wish you and yzuei can start a coop survival
RNG is a fascinating thing
I'm so glad that Yzuei is coming around on the scrap mechanic side now and mixing with the old crew! :D
Love to see this crew together on multi-player Monday
15:05 well technically you out kan but unintentional as kan help creating mini circle he fell into.
Definitely should have Yuzei as a regular part of MPM going forward if he can make it. Yuzei is awesome.
Also where has Moonbo been? Just conflicting schedules?
“It’s just normal spleef”
*The flying thingamabob*
Yzuei AND kAN in the same video? What is this, a crossover episode ??
Sometimes, some crimes go slippin' through the cracks.
Looked like confetti a few times there.
great to see Yzuei in scrap mechanic again
Again? Is he here before?
@@CUBES__ nope that's his first time
ScrapMan did one or two videos with Yzuei in Scrap Mechanic before. One of them was something like "Noob tries Scrap Mechanic for the first time"
It'd be pretty cool if you redid this challenge but have it so buttons are on top and can be shot (or cardboard cars so that it falls apart) but the buttons can be messed with (like switches to constantly have you turn left)
Idea for future spleef: have SAWS on pistons or whatever under the arena that cross the map at designated times! That should be much more dangerous than random spuds fying around and it would make it extra hard to predict which parts of the arena are gonna fall off.
awesome to see Yzeui in for multiplayer monday!!
The reason the pistons flicker is because every time the creation they are on gets updated (e.g. a block gets placed or destroyed) the pistons reset and then update. It doesn’t change anything to how the pistons function, just makes them flicker
Nice to see what Yuzei does in Scrap Mechanic 🙌
this looked really fun. I think it would be cool if there was a phase where one of those drones spawned but just starts spawning occasional explosives. or something along those lines :P
Vote for more Yzuei in Multiplayer Monday! :D
The choice of background music fit really well with the spud gun shots and arcady theme.
Glad to see Yuzei join multiplayer Monday!
Ayye the boy Yzuei hopping on some MM scrap mechanic 🙏
scrap man should make spleef with walls that close in
its nice seeing yzuei in a spleef video
both yzuei and kan on this one *chefs kiss
Great episode, and clever concept. Yzuei was very quiet to being with in the episode but I guess as he isn't a regular in scrap mechanic or MM.
Hear me out, vehicles vs God. Three people build vehicles and then either complete challenges or races on something like race island, and then one person hosts the game and messes with the session settings. For example, you could do a boat race, and then the “god” changes the wave settings to mess with the racers. Or maybe car races but the host messes with the gravity. You could take turns being the host or do it like you did the Hide & seek or the spleef maps, with the different video from each channel. It would be a really fun and interesting video to watch. (Trailmakers)
This has been my favorite spleef episode.
A race track should be so fun with this method and every lap harder.
Scrapman, you should give Kan what he wants. Make a Spleef challenge where all the vehicles have different quirks. change the tires, change the speeds, have a randomizer to change the speed. Make the wheels extend outward and maybe upward. Things like that.
Separate ideas (combine as desired):
Cube map. Replace the armored glass with breakable glass. Make the cars capable of driving up onto the walls and the ceiling.
Start giving Kan an engine with a 1 higher speed rating, and a 4th gun, but it still looks identical to the other cars. He will want another car and you can take his better car.
Make all the cars look different so that it looks like they have different performance, but are actually identical.
Spud guns on bearings that slowly sweep back and forth 45 degrees.
Nice to see Yzuei in a Scrap Mechanic MM
You could do "shark attack spleef" one player is drives upside-down under the arena, the other players are on the top with spud guns. The "shark" is trying to cut the players out before the players cut them out.
You could make the players drive a "boat" on the top that is slower, with the shark moving faster and possibly wider set of guns. The those on the boat lack speed (but the shark has a harder time knowing where they are),well being able to be more precise with where they want to destroy
next time do a robot wars spleef its just normal spleef but each player gets a weapon of there choosing or a maze spleef
Suggestion: spleef vehicle evolution
Basically, the winning vehicle of each round is kept and everyone modifies theirs how they want
This has to be the best one sofar!
I feel like you could have made the drones look for the height of the ceiling?
maybe painting the roof orange and have them drive towards orange until 0 then fall for a couple second and repeat.
in theory if they always flew up until they hit orange = 0 and stop their engine for 1s they would fall down to a set distance based off scrap mechanics specific gravity.
I want to see a spleef where the cars are made out of cardboard and you put the mines so that the cars can be disintegrated by the mines.
Spleef Idea: Divide the arena into 16 parts and add thrusters that can barley make the cardboard Hover at the smae hieght so that you can set up traps. The variability in the weight that depends on how you cut the cardboard and the height difference could be interesting
Or make it actually hover with auto correction (somehow) and itll be good too!
But the weight gonno change because the weight of the car
That's how the person would fall into the trap
Should do this again but with multiple layers so that the spud drones last longer
Scrap man, you should troll Kan one of these days by making all of the vehicles have a hidden switch that makes em better. Let everyone EXCEPT for Kan know of it
Do this same thing but you have no spud guns on your car. chaos cuts only for damage.
YZUEI IN SCRAPMECHANIC!!!??? The funny, thing was that I only noticed it when Scrap pointed it out. 😂
What if you add a lot of black random lines, it will make it hard to see what has already been cut.
If you do this floating mine thing again, put a glass room, like the map flipped upside down under the spleef, so the mines can't escape and the players still fall through the spleef arena.
Do a spleef game where its just a gigantic arena, and you can make your own creation with the twist being NO RULES. Flippers, pushers, anything is allowed, 1, 10 or 100 spud guns? No problem.
I think we need to see a bigger arena with these drones combined with the multiple controllable spud guns on the vehicles. Not sure how the computer hardware will handle that, but it would be pure chaos.
Idea for Team Spleef: The arena is a grid of red and blue cardboard, maybe like 8x8 sized grid tiles. There are two teams of two. On each team, one person can only cut out blue carboard and the other can only cut out red carboard.
Great way to start the day!!
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Honestly, I'm still curious how some of these MM games might work in Space Engineers... 'cos on the one hand, the game is a bit more complicated (have to keep gravity and a bunch of other stuff into account), but on the other hand... no Multiplayer delay (or at least, nowhere near as severe as Scrap Mechanic, I tried it with some friends and idk how you guys even play with it)
I love the concept and video! So gald to see yuezi as well!
For more chaos, make the cars out of glass or cardboard.
Maybe just for the fun of it, next time for the first round reverse Kan's car steering, so he will have a reason to say your car is better. 😂
Spleef ideas: Spleef but you make your own car, ofc there's gonna be limits like engine speed, # of spud guns, etc. or spleef but there's bots, taking inspiration from kAN, but there is still the regular 3 people with the addition of 3 bots too, or spleef but you have machineguns.
It could be fun to have a setup at the back of the car where you have two sets of guns on either side of the car, so you are cutting out lanes as you drive.
You should do a multiplayer Monday where the only source of purpultion you can use is the anti mater thrusters
we need more yzuei in scrap
I wonder if it's actually possible to make a self destroying spleef arena so that none of the cars have guns but the floor is still destroyed in a random pattern that always changes.
You should build a spleef arena with hidden pillars, that get detached over time
So sections that have been cut out, but were still supported would randomly fall
I was hoping for Yzuei to show up in Scrap Mechanic, but as a fourth filling in for Moonbo, not a third filling in for Kosmo. I miss four-player Multiplayer Mondays.
Okay, after watching round 1, this arena might be too much for four players. 😂
yzuei fits great on the sm team, mb a super collab with moonbo, kan, john, and some of the other ppl
Play spleef in this arena with cardboard cars and cardboard thruster spud gun parts (to decrease the hardness slightly)
You should totally make hidden mines, or a minefield spleef arena, but it has to be random placement of explosives.
Day 2 of asking scrapman to make the vespa 150 tap
Edits:it’s a motorbike with a mortar like cannone strapped to the side!
Make a very colourful arena but but sensors on the bottom of your cars and make them colour coded to a random colour, then add a logic explosive and hook all the sensors into the logic gate into the gun pointing at the explosive. And to make it funnier make the colour on your car (the colour that make you explode) more rare than other colours
how about arena,that gets eaten away with spotguns at groundlevel constantly shooting mooving from left to the right
Yzuei in Scrap Mechanic....What a treat!
Because KAN keeps taking your car in spleef, you should consider putting an extra switch into only your car that wont activate for a couple minutes, and simply just blows it up as a trap for KAN
these are some interesting background music choices and I like them.
Talk about "MINE THE GAP!"
I think the pistons are flashing because the game tries to re-render them every time a cardboard block is destroyed. If you put them on a separate creation, I think they won't blink anymore.
CHAOS
CHAOS
*Jevil laugher*
About the piston strobing: it happens every time the structure the pistons are attached to changes.
Yep I’m here😮
Hello
Hey Yzuei, please play King Of The Hill (or capture the flag) in Trailmakers with Scrapman and one or two other friends.
always great to see @Yzuei on these things
spleef but you have piston mellee attacks
Add an indestructible layer like 20 blocks lower than the spleef floor so the flying mines don't get lost. They'll keep shooting from below. If you fall you still lose.
Or, have more cars below, that only shoot up. Then when someone falls they still lose, but they get to drive around below and try to knock the surviving players out by shooting up.
I'd like to see this again, but no guns on the cars. Let the arena slowly dissolve away. You can probably get away with boxing in the mines about the arena, and having a grid that they can shoot through, but not fly through. They're pretty big, so the holes don't even need to be very small to keep them caged.
One of the flying spud gun machines just fell off lol
I miss moonbo
Make an arena that has walls around it but the entire floor extends beyond the wall and is held by a single block. Above the block is a spud gun on a 2.5min timer. The players can't cut out this block because of the walls but if there is no winner in 2.5min, the entire floor falls and the arena wins a round