Cheap Yashica T4 Alternative - Almost Identical Point and Shoot
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- Опубликовано: 12 мар 2022
- I decided to try out a little known point and shoot Yashica camera that I was told was basically the same as a Yashica T4
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The frame lines in the T4 are supposed to accommodate parallax error at close range, that’s why they’re to one side. At infinity you’re supposed to use the whole viewfinder as far as I recall.
Ahhh that makes sense, I wondered briefly if that might be the case! I just used the whole viewfinder the entire time and seem to mostly have gotten away with that haha! Thanks for letting me know Moofy, will pin this to share the knowledge!
The manual for my T5 says anything under 1m use the corrected frame lines and anything further use the whole finder
thank you , I hate those lines so much
That video at the beginning of the model swimming underwater is SO BEAUTIFUL
Thank you Violet! Being in that wind wasn't great in the moment haha, but it made for a super cool bit of video the way it was playing on the water!
I owned the T4 and also the Olympus stylus with the fixed 35mm lens. Loved them both. So easy to carry and nice sharp lenses. Great video. Nice when you young folks appreciate the vintage stuff.
Is there much of a difference between the stylus and the t4 in terms on image quality
@@JOEZI. Well, it was pre digital so no 100% viewing on the monitor, but I never saw any difference.
I found this channel after I was looking for more info about Yashica T4. I own one, and bought it off my countries' Ebay-ish kinda webshop (not telling the name because it's kinda low key and non-english where you can find hidden gems for bargain prices...) for €50 euro's. I just wanted to say that I'm enjoying your video's. Keep them coming!!
I founded one in France after watching your great video. I'm testing it tonight and I will see the result Monday :)
Just bought a minitec super because of your video! Thanks a lot for this great comparison.
“But the T4 has a Carl Zeiss lens!!!!”
Perfect! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ahah glad you enjoyed that little snippet man!
Hype Beast Will is back??? 😮 😆. Thanks Will, this is the camera review I never knew I needed. Hiding in plain sight are lots of cameras like this that are 80-90% + of whatever their super popular counterparts are. I suppose it depends on what a person is looking for. I just like taking pictures 🤷🏽♂️ I’d go with the Super. Have a great day 👍
Haha he had a longer segment but my DV tape seems to have given up the ghost so had to make it a short one this time lolol! It's wild how many great cameras go overlooked cus of the hype machine, hopefully some folks get to try this one out now and see how lovely it is in spite of the non-zeiss optics, the Yashica lenses in general are quite well respected I believe! Have a great day too Justin! Cheers!
confused weather I should praise the return of hype beast will or lament the absence of pain but definetly happy about a new upload :))
also gotta love that nonchalance about point and shoots, you still somehow managed to make me want to look in to them xD
I know right! Where is Pain!! They must not have gotten a notification, this is after all not the usual upload time, but we'll have to send out a search party soon!
Glad you noticed the nonchalance haha, I think they're fun for sure I just can't prescribe to the hype associated with most of em when you get much more out of a cheap slr most of the time anyway lol!
All right, bought it! I wanted to buy a good but affordable point and shoot to take more casual photos so that's perfect, thanks for sharing this comparison!
I’m starting to think I probably should have bought one before I put this video out ahaha, cus they all seem to be gone now loooool! I hope your new pickup brings you much joy man!
@@willysheepskin Wow you're right, nothing left on ebay! I bought it locally though and the transaction's not complete yet (still waiting on the seller) so maybe I won't get it in the end!
I bought one as well cause of this video :) awaiting the parcel 🫶
@@flolipok1573 I had to buy 3 of these to get one that works, I hope yours will be fine!
Ayyy I just sold my 28Ti and picked up a Kyocera AF-D for 6 times less money because I didn't want to risk having a beautiful brick one day. The results are sublime and I believe it has the same Zeiss lens as the T4 (and other Yashicas) and best of all it still has flash off by default with a separate switch for it :)
Daaaamn that sounds like something worth investigating, well done you George! We must dismantle the hype machine haha!
Always great seeing Hypebeast Will yet again.
Ahaha cheers Micheal! He’ll make an extended return sometime not too far from how I reckon!
Nice video. I definitely recommend the canon sure shot M. And Canon WP-1 both have sharp 32mm lens
I played the few seconds' worth of Hypebeast Will over and over again. Something about it warrants a replay :)
Ahaha I’m glad it stuck with you Alp! There would’ve been more seconds if the darn dv tape wasn’t tweaking out haha
It's about time we get a full video done by Hypebeast Will. Absolutely hilarious!
There's another p&s with a T in it's name that I reckon only hypebeast will could handle hahaha, although I need to get him a new DV tape since the one he used in this instance seems to be kaput lolol
@@willysheepskin Oh god yes, nobody in this world would be more qualified to review that celebrity-magnet of a film camera. Looking forward to it, lol!
Hi! Would you recommend this camera better than Olympus mju ii? I'm willing to update the Kodak m35 I got to test this new hobby - which I've been loving
I can’t remember the exact specs but sold these both when they were new. The biggest difference with the T4 was that the AF had 24 or 36 focus steps whereas typical point and shoots had typically only 4 focus steps. Not a huge difference in most circumstances but a difference. That would be why the minitec missed the eye focus.
Whats the difference btw Yashica T2 and T2D?
i only found the yashica j- mini super on ebay is this the right cam? or something completely diffrent?
Hey William, do you know what the brand of the case is for the minitec super? Thanks
great video. as of right now, I cant find one online hahah. I mean i've only been searching for about 5 min but its definitely hard to find, your video def boosted the hype haha!
Yep! Seems hard to find one now...just found one locally but eBay and other places are completely out
Is there any way you can shoot without the flash. Ive bought this camera and still couldnt figure it out
hei, discovered you today and watched a few videos now (bc the Olympus mji video was good) and was asking myself if you d be up to, to explain the basics of iso, shutter speed ect.? :)
Hey, love this video :) What film did you use for the black and white images... love the contrast
and also the music for this video :)
hi willie i was just watching some camera reviews and then recognised a voice coming out of my laptop!!!! hello you !!! hope all is well
I use this camera a lot, and love my t4 . I would suggest to use it with porta 160 because you can really see the sharpness with it. Compared to most point and shoots I’ve used. But my contax t2 still is the best point and shoot I’ve ever used
Rad that you have all 3 of those Pepe! The T2 is a glorious feeling camera, I’m reminded every time I get one in hand how nice it feels, such a shame the prices have gotten so out of hand though I felt they were quite fair but still expensive back when they were like $500 haha
hypebeast will is bacck!
That mans can't resist butting in if theres a hype camera around these days ahah
well what im getting more and more is that people don't buy the cameras because they don't know about them
got one for 40£ on ebay last year. amazing camera
I owned a minitec super for a while and loved it. Ended up selling it to a David in Cpt, maybe this is my old camera. Always regretted selling it.
There is a strong chance that was your old minitec then, so awesome! It’s since moved on to a new owner I believe but it’s been on an adventure since moving on for sure haha, I hope you find another one soon!
Funnily enough my girlfriends Ricoh pns seems to have a failing motor so I looked on FB marketplace to see if there were any cheap pns available and a Yashica minitec super is available but looks beat to hell, already inquired about it though so this video is perfectly timed :) fantastic to see the return of hype beast will too haha
Oooh deary, David actually has been wanting me to try out some Ricoh thing for a while too, can't remember it's name but its very skinny lol! Seems like a bit of destiny that there's a minitec catching your interest locally though, if it's beat to hell maybe see if you can get them to bring down the price lol! Looks ain't everything and if it works properly still I reckon it could be worth it! Poor hypebeast Will had a segment but it got cut short cus as you likely noticed the DV tape was tripping out ahah
@@willysheepskin Probably one of the many Ricoh GR type camera's? ;)
@@sanderradstaake2622 Probably! It's like a super thin metal thing, David swears by it so I might have to give it a go haha!
@@sanderradstaake2622 actually it's one of their first pns cameras with AF the Ricoh FF70D has a few different names depending which market it was sold on
@@willysheepskin ah definitely I mean it's been listed for 40 euros anyway so not terrible but if it's untested I won't go above 30 the condition is so rough you can barely read yashica minitec super hahaha and the Ricoh my girlfriend has been using is one of riches first AF cameras, the Ricoh FF70D, fat thing (for a compact, sort of like Nikon l35af or Minolta himatics) but very nice 5 element lens 35mm f2.8 I believe but the autofocus is pretty meh although she uses it mostly in lowlight conditions but gotten some very nice colours out of it! Can't wait for the next return of hype beast will, hopefully the DV cam doesn't sabotage him again!
thanks cool video :)
Can't find the minitec super anywhere to buy, if anyone has a link where i could buy this that might be helpful
Hi Will, very nice video, thx for sharing. I think those point and shoots have a really bad downside: It takes really a lot of effort to fit in a 120 roll of film. 😉
Ahhahah this made me laugh, that is a very solid point Marxoni! Way too much effort!
Interesting video, my thoughts are all point and shoots get very similar results :D
Gonna have to do a test across the board someday haha, Pentax Espio through to Contax T3 lol!
I am pausing this video and heading to buy this camera right now before the price goes up. Haha 😁
Ahahah I doubt I have any influence over that! But it is a lovely little camera for sure, I don't think you'd regret picking one up!
Could anyone help me understand the difference between the Microtec AF and Super?
my underdog point and shoot camera is the Pentax espio zoom af ; ) its like a leica mini zoom. ALMOST ; ) but super cheap.
I should give that thing a chance again, I tried one out like 4 years ago and didn’t vibe with it but maybe now that I have a more informed opinion on things I could get behind it haha!
A better model is the Yashica T3 - Two reasons mainly : The lens is still a Zeiss optic, but unlike the T4, it's an f/2.8 ('FASTER' lens). Next, the movement of the lens when it's commanded to get ready for shooting OR upon closing/storage, is noisy, along with one of the major causes for its failure (aging tiny plastic gearing is its 'bricking' time-bomb).
We appreciate you raising prices on cameras, Will😂💔 lmao great video man!
I didn’t think I had that kind of potential impact 😭😭😭 glad you enjoyed it though AJ!
lol. Did I see my name in the end credits? Or was that a different Cristian? Doesn't matter. Always like your vids man. Your channel is way underrated and should have a way bigger audience. :)
Ahah I think it might be a different Cristian! But we can say it's a double feature for you as well ;) Glad you enjoyed this though Cristian, and honored that you reckon things are underrated! Perhaps one day things will be bigger, although I like knowing pretty much everyone in the comments by name and catching up with people every week too haha, it feels special!
This has happened many times during the Yashica T lineup, pretty much the same body exists for each generation with the only difference being the Carl Zeiss lens. Just recently tested and sold a yashica J AF which is very similar to a t2 but with a yashica lens.
Woah that's awesome! Gonna have to look into finding out what else there is out there that's pretty much the same haha!
Hi Will, Justin here! Thanks for a great comparison, love it, can you compare one of these to an olympus xa, I know its not the same oranges for oranges but just curious. The lower contrast on the cheaper one suits black and white I guess.
Hi Justin! Nice to see you again haha! That’d be an interesting comparison I reckon! I’d be curious to see how that glass holds up against the t4 since it’s got a great reputation haha! Will have to see if I can source one sometime!
@@willysheepskin Don't spend much time or money reaching out for this one. The lens in the XA is a unique design, used to compact the lens into the thin body without having to "pop out" to function. It is unique because it was relatively expensive and ended up being poor quality by any rational measure. It vignettes terribly (darkens around edges and into corners of the image.). It has visible distortion. It's resolution is as low has the worst lens in any camera of the type. It is truly one of the most ergonomic pocket cameras for small snapshot use, but its YT reputation as a significant photographic tool is total hype. Note that with the following version, the XA2, Olympus ditched that lens in favor of a Tessar copy like used on the Minitec or T4. Yes, it pops out.
One day later and they are all gone on ebay. Don't underestimate your influence. :D
Damn I just checked and they actually are 😳 I severely underestimated the potential impact ahah
The framelines are off centre for parallax correction up close
what’s the difference between the minitec and the j-mini tech super?
The J mini looks to be closer to the minitec Af in construction/components but I have no experience with it so wouldn’t be able to offer a properly informed opinion!
Seems like a pretty decent camera for a point & shoot. In Germany there is exactly one of these at ebay right now to a high price so....yeah added to the wishlist :D thanks for the tip!
It’s a very decent point and shoot indeed! Wish list is the pro strategy haha, I hope you find the right one!
If you think these cameras are pretty decent, then it is blatantly obvious that you are utterly clueless on what decent cameras are. You are better off taking photos using your shit than the so-called cameras in this video
This is my default reply whenever I don't know what to say about the camera stuff... Hubba Hubba
You can just say Hubba Hubba about the camera stuff that'd totally work too xoxo
Noo Will, i've been looking for a backup to mine for a while now, they'll be even harder to find now. Damn you! 😁
Ooooh so you knew about these things but didn't tell me huh! Lolol, for real though forward all complaints to David he's the fella that insisted I try it out ahah
@@willysheepskin Too bad i don't know David, William Scapegoat!
@@willysheepskin Ah, and i never had a T4, so i just knew my P&S was fine. I did not expect that the T4 has so little more to offer.
@@llitm.7761 Who knows, maybe it has some magic features I don't know about still aha! I'm definitely not a T4 expert, just thought the similarities would be fun to point out and compare between em haha!
@@willysheepskin Yes no, of course its fun and i am always grateful for your vibey videos. Just don't like competition hehehe
hey! great vid, what film did you use here? cheers.
Cheers Sam! I shot ilford xp2 in both of em, needed something I could dev fast and wanted to give it a chance again haha, although I’m probably going to be bummed when I try darkroom print it
@@willysheepskin it looks beautiful! im gonna pick up a roll thanks william
My Yashica t4 winds the 10:22 film all the way to the end instead of stopping on frame 1. Any ideas of how to remedy this isuue??
Check the little recessed mid roll rewind button isn't accidently pressed in and stuck!
With film cameras, the lens is essential (and with AF cameras, the AF). So, the „almost“ in „almost identical“ is pretty wide. But you‘re right in so far that you can save a lot of money by buying the unknown sister instead of a hyped camera. Konica A4 vs Konica Big Mini as well.
Yeah, the lens is the only thing affecting image quality in film cameras (assuming you can get the same focus, focal length, aperture and shutter speed). So it would be better if there was a camera with lesser features and the same quality of lens.
I can't find one anywhere, too bad.
The lens is the only thing that matters. That's really the only thing that separates a $600 camera and a $10 Point and shoot from a thrift store.
Well now the minitech super is just as expensive as the t4. So idk if people cared that much sadly.🤣
what a difference a year makes there both around $400
Goeie tip, ik heb meteen notificaties aangezet op mijn locale ebay-equivalent 😄
Brilliant! Jy sal waarskynlik selfs n goedkoeper een dan kan kry haha!
trying to get one on ebay right now 👍
That's rad Paul! They're super fun, I hope you get it and that it's a blast for you too haha!
And they're gone.
Is the Microtec AF-Super the same as the minitec super?
how do you have all these results on eBay... I don't see a SINGLE one
Ahem this video seems to have unexpectedly resulted in them all selling 😅
@@willysheepskin Sigh... maybe I have to turn my thumbs up into a thumbs down haha
the Yashica T2 would be a better comparison.
Oh hell. For that money, I'll just stick with my Canon Kiss III and a 40mm pancake lens. In it $139 total.
eBay prices about to go up William
I don't reckon I have enough of an impact on the scene at large to affect the ebay prices much haha! If they do go up though I shall be wary of sharing cool little anomalies like this in future lol!
@@willysheepskin nah don't think about your channel or reach being that small. I'm in Trinidad and Tobago watching and the title alone is gonna peck alot of peoples curiosity to buy one. I just a Yashica MicroElite AF that's has same lens to check out lol
*Yashica minitec super's price going uppp*
I hope not! I guess we'll have to see!
WILLY
PAIN!!!!
PAIN! WHERE YA BEEN!
@@willysheepskin currently not doing well.. i wont miss the next one!
Hey Willy
Hello very early Sreeku!
Am I the only one that can't seem to find this camera anywhere? No listings on eBay
They all sold after this video, not something I expected haha
@@willysheepskin damn internet
to be fair
Is it a surprise to anyone that Yashica would use the same core components and electronics for the T4 and MiniTec Super? Why would they build a different basic camera for these two moderls, or the other Minitec models for that matter? The lenses are both Tessars, one an authorized Tessar with Zeiss' proprietary "T" lens coating (i.e., royalty paid to Zeiss), and the other with Yashica's Tessar copy, a generic style of lens used in many P-n-S cameras from most makers (No royalty to Zeiss). At around $100. the Minitec is reasonably priced. At $500-700, the T4 is ridiculous owing to being hyped to a mass of buyers who are just ignorant about what they buy.
Very true! Glad I got to illustrate it in a video haha! I had read rumours about the minitec lens being pretty much the same construction but didn’t know if it was in fact a verified copy, there are for sure some apparent differences in quality between the two but my sensibility vote is for the minitec also haha!
Except it is not.
Minitec super has a triplet lens, T4 has Tessar lens.
PRICES OF MINITEC SUPER JUST WENT UP AFTER THIS VIDEO😭😭😭😭😭
Ahah I hope not man!
Oh but who is Carl zeiss! 😄😄😄
Mehh just some guy who liked glass I think ahaha ;)
I'm just going to say it.... You don't need to spend over $200 on a point and shoot.
Big facts Theodore!
Thanks to you minitec super price is doubled! ;-(!!!!!
Of course now a year later these are $250.
I just don't get it. I mean I sorta get it. But I don't get it. At these prices and this level of p&s fragility it never stops being bizarre.
Even an XA or a Rollei 35 is a better choice to me. Far less to go wrong mechanically or electronically (if at all). Just as small.
I don't get it.
I'm glad there are more overhyped cameras to take some of the demand off of the rest. That way i can get stuff like my Hi-matic 7s (not the 7sII) for 60 bucks or whatever, and get the same results. Thanks rubes!
Dang 5 days late to the party and they're none on eBay, Rats!!!
but it has a carl zeisss lens ! hahahahahaaaaaaa
Ahah Hypebeast Will is confused
HYPEBEAST WILL
HE LIKES THE ZEISS STUFF, nice to see you stop by as always btw yung specialist 🥳
You can buy a truck with a four-cylinder, a v6 or a v8 and they all have gas peddles so they’re like the same thing right? I’m not saying that everyone needs to splurge on the best optics but let’s not totally disregard that part of the camera like it’s a gimmick or something. And the comment about fixing it in post :l
Lol, that's a good analogy. The lens has the biggest impact on the quality of a film photo after all. So i'll gladly sacrifice features and size before lens quality.
Tessar lenses are waaaay over rated
Good cameras, but wow. They are ugly. hahaha
Those cameras are about as interesting as lump of shit. If you’re going to do a vlog about cameras then do one about decent cameras; those cameras in this video are utterly SHIT at best, to the point where I would rather take photos with a fart.
I would pay to see you do this.
Excellent plan, I’ve gone back in time and uploaded videos on cameras that I’ve used for years like the Mamiya 7, rb67, Nikon f3, Contax g2 and other fun ones, just for you so that I could make up for the lack of videos covering decent cameras on the channel!
I warped back to various periods over the past year and a bit just to make it seem like I’d organically uploaded them too
Gosh I’d feel silly having made a comment like yours if I didn’t know about time machines, teehee!
I mean they’re point and shoots lol, and they’re not bad. They have been used for editorial shoots by famous photographers
Ahhh.. Oh dear. 😂😂😂. I see you're brand new to the channel... Welcome.. A few pointers though... 1) We behave like decent, kind and educated humans in the comments on this channel. It's a thing. I'm sure you know how, so please do this in the future. 2) Being new to the channel, maybe take a few minutes in self orientation to see what else is on here before making suggestions of what Will should blog about. Seriously, about 30 seconds scrolling through previous uploaded videos and you wouldn't look so very, very silly right now. Clearly you're in a dark space emotionally, hopefully you feel better soon.
before i watched this video i had a heart attack cuz i bought a tproof last week and it’s supposed to be here tomorrow. safe to say i don’t regret my purchase
Awesome! I hope it brings you much joy!