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Type 68 North Korean Tokarev/High Power Hybrid
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The Type 68 is a North Korean hybrid of the Tokarev and the High Power, used as a military service pistol until replaced by the Beak-Du-San copy pop the CZ75. The general outline of the gun is a copy of the Tokarev, with a modular removable fire control group, lack of manual safety, and tall thin sights. It is chambered for 7.62x25mm, and uses a magazine identical to the standard Tokarev except for not having a magazine catch cut, as the Type 68 has a heel magazine release.
Internally, the High Power elements include a detent-retained barrel pin, use of a solid barrel cam instead of a 1911/Tokarev swinging link, and a fixed barrel bushing. Two patterns of markings exist, one with a date and North Korean marking, and one (like this example) with only a serial number.
North Korean guns of all types are very rare in the United States. A very small number of Type 68s have come into the US, generally through Central America (probably via Cuba) and South Africa (via Rhodesia/Zimbabwe).
Update: It appears that the original design work for these was done by an independent engineering firm in Yugoslavia. The design (a TT33 with High Power type locking and angled slide serrations) was not completed in time for the trials that would lead to adoption of the Yugoslav M57, and the drawings were transferred to "another country" - probably North Korea.
Thanks to Legacy Collectibles for loaning me this pistol for filming! Check out his RUclips channel, with lots of other interesting guns:
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"It's an authentic American 1911, so it is!"
"What's that one star doing on the grip?" - "It's Texan"
"It has neither grip nor manual safety" - "As I said, it's Texan"
"It has a magazine heel release" - "Lots of Germans in Texas"
"It's in 7.62 Tokarev" - "That's a Native American name for Texas"
@Catboomer12 Some say Texas sunk alongside Atlantis, but we'll never know for sure.
The famous rifles of the Russian designer Tokarev SVT-38, SVT-40 once made a splash in the arms business. For SVT 40 Tokarev even provided a silencer (I do not know how relevant was the use of a silencer on rifles in the first half of the 20th century and whether silencers were used at all at that time). On the one hand, I envy that the US has very liberal legislation for gun ownership (unfortunately, this is a problem in Russia), but on the other hand, news regularly comes from the US about the use of weapons among the population (sometimes with victims), so the issue is very controversial...
@@alexxela9502 I know who Tokarev was. I was just making up an imaginary conversation to make light of the fact that this gun (at least in my opinion) really tries to look like a 1911 and coming up with ridiculous excuses to explain away all the things that are "off" about this gun.
@Catboomer12 So I asked 'em as they pulled their reins towards the settin' sun
I said, "Before you go, I'd like to know, just where you boys come from?"
Well they opened up a star chart and said, "right here where this 'X' is
It's the biggest place in Outer Space, the planet known as Texas"
I lived in Texas for a year. They had lots of snow that winter. I told em im Santa Claus the real one from germany tho and thats my way of saying "thank you Texas". On christmas eve they sang a german christmas Song "stille Nacht" in church for me. On german. And we were throwing snowballs at each other outside that night. Good times. I met so many lovely People there.
I love Texas.
Greetings from germany
Stay safe ya'll ✌☺
I'm fully expecting to one day hear one of those videos start with "Hi, I'm Ian McCollum and today we're in Kim Dzong Un's grey room in an undisclosed location in North Korea"
I knew he was a secret juche guy
Juche Gang, Juche Gang, Juche Gang
The way the DPRK has been opening up I wouldn't doubt it in 20 years time
Ah yes, the High Toker.
Toke Power!
I didnt know i needed this comment.
I'm a joker
I'm a smoker
I'm the High Toker
I sure want to shoot someone.
And now i got that playing in my head
Mordecai Eagle not that stupid song is in my head. Morise, whooo, whooo.
Looking good, Toker!
looks like a generic default pistol in a game where the developers can't get the trademark from other companies
Rockstar, lmao.
It looks like the AM D114 from MGS V.
Then they call it a "DD-Tarkov"
@Deanimator Intellectual property theft is China's MO.
@@erikcrouch7881 That all they can do.
I've always noticed that North Korean stuff tends to have distinct, sharp angles (architecture, regalia, etc.) so it's interesting, deliberate or not, to see it in pistol form.
When you said "Tokarev/High Power hybrid", I was hoping for a 13-round double stack magazine.
Vietnam makes one! So did Norinco. Since trade restrictions were eased on Vietnam 4 years ago, I've been waiting for firearms to start coming in, but none yet.
@@turbografx16 Yeah, would be nice if the K14-VN starts getting imported.
@@RedXlV That is a wishful thinking :))
I have a Norinco 213a double stack. It's one roughly made gun! Looks awesome from a distance though and shoots pretty straight! Speaking of Tokarev\HiPower hybrids the 213a actually can take HiPower mags with a very small modification to the magazine catch cutout.
Go look up “30 bore pistol” Pakistan makes tts copy’s and a lot of em they mash anything you can think of go look up “ dara adam khel” gun market in Pakistan where they hand make guns and sell em for as low ad 20$ its a great watch
The number one reason I love Ian and his channel is because he digs into the gun. A lot of people who present things show you the gun and tell you about it it's many interesting features. Meanwhile Ian will field strip the gun and SHOW you the features and how they work. Big love, Gun Jesus.
Totally agree am a disciple of gun Jesus for exactly this type of content. Ian would make a fantastic history prof in some alternative universe where guns are not a political issue.
I totally agree with you Chris; Love Ians' expertise.
he's basically Goshua And John Moses Browning Is Jesus Christ!
Nice looking gun, didn't expect to see that.
Most of their military hardware is ugly as sin. This one has a real Star Megastar look about it...
Especially from the worst country in the entire world!
Ian, regarding the serial number: DPRK has a different calendar in use.
So according to the Juche Calendar, 1912 is the 1st year, so the picture of one with a 41 would be made in 1953, unfortunately that still would be too early. My best guess is the same as Ian's probably a factory code because factories are named by number from what I've seen. Right side could possibly be the amount of the guns made by that factory. Good idea with the different calendar though, I didn't think of that.
Plus, They don't use Juche calendar in firearms, And Juche calendar was came out in 1997. Usage of Juche calendar in North Korea is similar to usage Japanese era name nowadays.
@@unapistola yup, cerimonial and for official fancy press releases
I'm just waiting the day when Ian shows us the North Korean pringles magazine.
I'm sure they are extremely unreliable or directly non-functional.
NK issues it to look modern, just like the chinese did with the qbz95 at HongKong occupation
@@rrphantom8194 I prefer the theory that those things are made from painted cartboard tubes. But i still love their bold claims, 150 rounds of 5,45 in helical mag, even if it is real it would be more unreliable than Chauchat in a trench and more front heavy than Lewis gun.
@@mordecaieagle4240
Well, north korean authorities don't really need high capacity magazines.
What is a tortured political prisoner going to do? Run?
A direct blowback unlicensed copy of a 1911 made by a vietnamese slave farmer back in the 60's is more than enough to kill him
@@rrphantom8194 it's not for the political prisoners, but to intimidate soldiers, policemen or cadres who might get the silly idea that they can do their country and the world a favour and empty their firearm into the dear leader.
@@KTo288 i wonder why no one has done that yet
This is quite well made for a pistol like this. The slide to me is what measures how much a country loves making handguns. That raised machined rib down the center is not just functional as a mirage band, but serves as a bold bit of decoration too.
It's like a gun you would see in a game like Uncharted or Just Cause.
With a name like TTT HighTower
I preferred Goldeneye - the DD44. Just change the letter to something it sounds like, and up the digit.
@@user-xq5og9lt8p ha! Ikr
Or world at war
Your tokarev will make a fine addition to my collection.
General grievous you’re shorter than I expected
@@Jedishill680 We call it communism
I love pistol designs. There's always an interesting lineage of who copied what. The Tokarev is pretty much a mechanical copy of the 1911 with some refinements, e.g. a simpler takedown.
Perfect timing, this popped up right when i finished watching the North Korean AK video
This is the best-looking version of the Tokarev.
Those seem like some really good, thoughtful updates of the Tokarev.
A surprisingly competent and well thought out improvements.
For real. I... kind of want one now.
1:06, while you're mentioning the type 70, i watched that video recently and I've realised it's very similar to the current pistol that the Romanian police are still using to this day(ex communist country, very heavy soviet armament influence) , probably they're both different copies of the same gun. We call it the "Carpați" pistol (after the Carpathian mountains), and it was introduced in 1974. They're both .32 acp copies of the walther PP
I own one. 280$ at the LGS. My best unresearched find.
This has to be the one the best channels on RUclips if not the best
"Would you want a 1911 or a Tokarev?"
North Korean officer: Yes
Ian, would you consider a short video of the pros and the cons of the heel mag release vs the button mag release, why would some weapons have one than the other and maybe a brief history of who invented each one?
Seems like decent quality considering where it came from. Also seems more pleasant to shoot than a Tokarev too with the way the grip is. Wish they were more available.
No
Fascinating. I learned a lot about my Russian Tokarev from this NK version video. Got it when I worked at Cabela's corporate office. Super-inexpensive firearm that's fun to shoot...when you can find inexpensive ammo for it. Thanks, Ian.
Its a beautiful piece ngl
Thank you for the education Ian! Your work is invaluable
Great info
Neat.
A Russian 1911 and a North Korean Hi-Power
Ah yes, noth korea
@@januskristensen4930
The Nothiest Korea
Just bought my TT-33 and this video speaks to me.
Very nice breakdown of a Type 68 showing all the ways it differs just slightly from the TT33 Tokarev. I just saw your video about turn of the century semiauto handguns and cartridges yesterday and can see the family resemblance between the TT33 and the Browning 1900. Then the Type 68 takes it a couple of steps farther with the threaded and peened barrel bushing, the 1911 style slide lock lever, and the Hi Power style barrel cam rather than the pivoting link. One thing about pronunciation though, I have it on good authority (as in Russians and Ukrainians I know personally) that Makarov is pronounced Ma-KAR-ov, stress on the middle syllable, not the first one. If you want to be the cool kid, that's the way you need to say it.
To speculate on the serial:
Is it possible that the third and fourth digits are the country of export?
So it'd be XXYYZZZZ
Where the X denotes factory of origin, Y denotes export country (domestic guns omit these entirely), and Z is the serial
I think you've cracked it
We all have been waiting for this video)))
Thank you , Ian
I have always loved the 7.63X25 round, and that pistol really looks like it would be a neat plinker, however since it is so damn rare guess I shall never own one. Guess I should have kept the Tokorav that I had.
I think it looks better than a Tokarev, and the changes made were all a pretty good idea. I wonder if the hammer group is interchangeable with the Tokarev?
Love your channel Ian ❤️
Ever since I saw a reference to you going to Legacy I have been waiting for the videos in anticipation of some cool guns!
This is a really cool pistol, had never heard of it
From a purely aesthetic standpoint, I'd say the Best Korean one have the advantage.
I like Legacy Collectibles story that it came in a CIA diplomatic bag... Definitely one of a kind in the US however it got there
Copying the CZ 75 9x19mm is actually a good move for a service pistol.
From 2000 to 2005, I campaigned on gun forums that the Tokarev was stronger than the CZ52, contrary to load books of the time.
You show the coolest toys :) Thanks for sharing !
I m totaly fan of tokarev and variation 😍😍😍
It’s like a combination of western and soviet aesthetics. I really like it ngl.
Ian, you should definitely do a backup gun match using the mag from one of these in a normal tokarev 😂😂
They might be using the juche calendar for the dates
Thanks Tom. Please send Ian some more guns, we all know you have a secret stash now.
Wow, this is pretty innovative in some ways, for what it is.
My biggest issue is that now that I've seen the snub Tokarev with the more modern slide grip, I want one.
that date probably isnt our julian calandar its probably the year of juche marked on there
But year 41 would be 1953 (i.e. before this gun was invented) and the Juche calendar wasn't adopted until 1997
Also, (unless you're an orthodox priest or from well in the past) we're using the Gregorian calendar now
It'd be weird to ask North Koreans for consideration, but they could just cut out the magazine catch in their mags and make it completely interchangeable. It actually annoys me that they didn't.
Much easier to shoot anyone who complains.
That's an unacceptable critic of the Will of the Great Leader Kim-Il-sung!!
it is just a pistol so whatever.
Why?? It is a good idea to be able to use other nations magazine while they can´t use yours! It is smart of NK to do this.
I was hoping to see a TT with a helical magazine!
that hoop on the bottom of the mag is pretty clever
What an interesting firearm … who'd have thought it?!? Looks cool as well .. I wonder how it shoots..
Should handle like any other Tokarev pattern pistol, maybe a slightly snappier recoil because the barrel is shorter, but I doubt it would be noticeable.
Need to get it Zastava firearms so they can make this version
North Korea/ DPRK uses it's own calendar( Juche year) with 1912 (year of Kim Il Sung's birth) being Juche year 1 and so on- I was wondering if that might have some relevance with the number on the side? (eg 82 would be 1993)
That doesn't really fit. 1953 for the code 41 is still too early and 1993 is too late.
Wow. I'm continually impressed on how you're able to source DPRK versions of Soviet weaponry.
I wonder why they went with a "heel" style magazine release instead of the "button" style like the original TT-30/33.
Machining/production costs, perhaps?
You guessed it. A lot quicker, cheaper, and easier to produce. Whoever owns the pistol probably won't survive long enough to load a second mag anyway.
@@soldat2501 not from combat however. They starve to death
Very nice AA900👍
At 10:08 you can also see a, what I would say, a scratched number (what I would recon say is a "1643") and a stamped digit (more specifically a "3") on the hammer itself.
Ah they’re one number off from perfection
So it´s a "High Tower". High Five if you get the Police Accademy reference.
North Korea also has a Type 68 Rifle which is a locally made version of the AKM.
its worth waiting a long time...
Baek Doo San pistol was adopted while Kim Jung Il (Jung Eun's old man) in power, 1992. Baek Doo San is the tallest mountain in Korean peninsula. In south Korea, some numbers of NK spies were caught with this pistol and essentially a direct copy of CZ75
I actually used to own a Tiawanese water pistol version of one of these.
Zastava makes an awfully similar version of this exact same pistol thats called the Zastava M88a. Its also chambered in 9mm. I know all this cause i've actually owned one for the past 5 years. Good little gun that also makes for a good CC
Alright, lets get this out onto a tray, nice, mmkay
Be good to see the quality of the rifling. But imagine pretty good the barrel looked the best quality part.
If I was ever hired to smuggle sanctioned goods into North Korea, I would ask for a few surplus crates of these as payment.
It's probably better to start your own anti-western communist country and ask for these as military aid.
@@Jason-fm4myToo much paperwork.
This looks like quite a good pistol.
"One toke over the line, sweet (Gun) Jesus
One toke over the line."
My wife has a pistol similar to this that her father brought back from vietnam. Has chinese characters on the top near ejection port. And a hand stamped serial number with 1966 above the grip. Could you do a video on that one?
Maybe it’s a Type 54?
Does it shoot? What caliber? Is it a locked gun or simple blow back? Is it a Chinese Mystery Pistol?
@@john-paulsilke893 haven't shot it yet. Pretty sure it uses the tokarev cartridge. Has a button mag release and that sliding clip to remove the slide stop for disassembly.
That is a TT33 Tokarev. I haven't done a video on them yet, but I will eventually.
I really want one of these guns.
BAEK-DU-SAN, a DPRK 9mm. Did they ever come up for auction? Anywhere. Their copy of a CZ75 9mm Parabellum pistol.
Aight, burn me on a stake or whatever, but it actually looks better than the regular Tokarevs.
The fact that it have mismatched parts might means that there is more than one imported to the states, or they just have non meticulous gunsmith/armourer.
It does look better than a standard Tokarev. Standard Tokarevs are ugly as fuck. This gun is a thing of beauty.
I think Tokarev 33, deserves a proper video. For Ian not to cover Tokarev 33 on its own....it's not painting Ian in a good light.
The military model with the year could Juche(think I spelled right). 1912 is Juche 1. 1913 is Juche 2. You get the idea. As Ian said very little is actually known.
I want virtually anything in 7.62 X 25 Tokarev...
Externally it looks a lot like a Zastava M88 in 7.62x25mm
I went into this video thinking it would be a fabri-cobbled nightmare, but to my surprise, if given the opportunity to get one of them I'd reach for my wallet with very little hesitation (depending on the price of course).
If it was a 300 dollar pistol I'd gladly buy it
man, I love the 7.62 Tok round but as an American all of the guns that shoot it are fugly, Korea and China of all places had cool looking toks so I'd have to rob a bank or do something equally as illegal involving smuggling to get one... I'd love one of those Type 80 Machine Pistols too I think they look awesome.
11:16 *"Baek Du-San"*
That's a character from Tekken lol!
North Korean arms have gone into Zimbabwe after the war ended via military arms and training in the 80s. Much of the armies “elite” soldiers were armed and trained by North Korean advisors following the formation of Zimbabwe.
Year 41 in North Korea is 1956, they have their own calendar.
Saw one of these in a museum in South Korea years ago and knew it had to be unique to North Korea. Never knew what it was until now!
I literally bumped into this video. didn't show up in my notifications.
So, a Browning Hi-Power and a T33 Tokarev walk into a bar...
Looks like its that time of the month. for the one pistol .
It is called the Type-66! Guy, not 68! SOF provided that information. Calling it a Type-68 is a Mistake. Paul
My "Type 68" has 1966 stamped on the slide.Still has ZA serial number crudely engraved on the slide.
I think it is much more handsome than the standard Tokarev
Am I the only one that wants a simple modern DA/SA double stack 762 tokarev very similar to this design? I bet CZ, Girsan, or TISAS would really do it justice.
Really neat unit. Would like to have one.
North Korea uses a "Juche" dating system in addition to the normal western dating system. Its a standard dating system in every way, except for the fact that it uses the birth year of Kim Il-Sung as its starting year. Virtually everything that uses a date in North Korea uses both, like magazines and newspapers, and everyone is expected to know both. Its possible that some aspect of the gun markings incorporates that date.
Hate to sat it.
I'm a fan of the heel release.
Huge tokarev fan.
With they made some tokarevs like that.
Pronunciation guide for Mr. Saive:
Dieudonné Saive = Dyu-donnay Sev
I dont even care much for guns but I love your videos!
I actually want some of these
10:07 there is a faint number on the hammer you missed '1043'
It could be a date because NK's calendar isn't the standard calendar we use.