MrLoobu Yes it does, I've got a little .32 magnum revolver that is super sweet shooting but I can't find rounds for it hardly anywhere these days, it sucks because .32 used to be absolutely everywhere
Wow that Inagaki pistol is really innovative. It almost reminds me of a PPK or Makarov in the way you disassemble it. It's truly terrible that Japan has such restrictive gun laws. We could see some more interesting designs coming out of Japan, but alas is not the case unless I'm missing something.
Alas, you aren't missing anything. Less than 0.3% of the Japanese populace own firearms. There are possibly more guns in one neighborhood here in the U.S. than the entire coutnry of Japan. We'll never see the modern-day equivalent of a katana, and the closest we'll come to a semi-auto that runs like a Civic will be some Austrian gun :.(
Japanese military industry minnebea has built some cool rifles and sub machine guns, doubt we will ever be able to buy them but still interesting to learn about.
The Inagaki reminds me of the Webley/H & R self loading pistols. The takedown, the exposed barrel, and the mechanism seem really reminiscent of those older pistols.
Right when I saw the Sugiura I thought it looked familiar, so I pulled my 1903 off my nightstand, it is an almost perfect match considering it's a wartime Chinese clone haha. Crazy to think that there was a clone like that during WWII that is so little know. Love your videos man!
I love how it’s speculated this was built after the Japanese had left. Like there’s no way something with pin ends like that has been manufactured under Japanese supervision. That’s how good their workmanship is/was. Amazing!
The japanese made the biggest battleship of all time too, their workmanship was damn good but their actual strategy was less than ideal considering battleships were basically outmatched by aircraft carriers at the time hahaha.
I saw my first Sugiura pistol at a Kansas City show in the late 1970s. The gun came with a story . The vet entered a concrete bunker and he saw a tall 5 or 6 high stack of new crates. He knocked the stack over and out of a broken crate fell these pistols. He pocketed one and exited the bunker throwing in a satchel charge as he left collapsing the bunker. No one at the show had ever seen that kind of pistol before and it was many years before I learned it was a Sugiura. So many unanswered questions what Island? How many guns to the case? Why take just one? I don't Know.
Inagaki pistol was inspire by Webby or HR 32 auto. I seen one custom made model for a Japanese Navy pilot with a 10 round magazine, and the barrel was a bit longer.
+Jesse Sisolack Despite appearances, the Sugiura / Colt 1903 design was actually easier to make by the standards of the time. As Perica De Losplotes points out above, the Spanish turned out hundreds of thousands of simplified copies of the Browning World War I, and for 20 years afterward. Inagaki pistols seem like they were almost hand made in a very small factory.
a very neat design, I sometimes wonder that some of these old ideas are due for a second look with modern manufacturing , metals and upgraded ergonomics a really simple but effective gun may come about.
The inagaki is a true firearm innovation ..thats impressively simple and well designed .. I wonder if the patent is still owned ..i think that would sell today if made in 9 mm as a single stack concealed carry gun
I like polymer framed firearms because of their lightness, Corrosion Resistance and ease of maintenance. But the feel of all steel and wood is CLASSIC!
Your videos are always interesting. You only have a few dislikes for each video. These people need not even watch. I bet they are always the same people. Keep up the great work.
Right on, I wish the Japanese had more pistols to choose from on Rising Storm than the Nambu Type 14. I hear the Japanese also had revolvers of some sort, and adding this rare Inagaki for higher level players so that it's still relatively rare would be a nice addition. I REALLY hate the Nambu...
does anyone know why most japanese pistols seem to look like boxes? they're never smooth and great for their grip, just wandering. no one else really seems to do this.
I think most safeties are like that. The only ones that aren't are selectors which point rather than cover. I.e. any thumb safety like on a shotgun or bolt gun will cover the S and show a red F to let you know you're on fire.
There was a Japanese WWII pistol that had a plate on the side that if you had a round chambered, and it was cocked, and you put pressure on the plate it would discharge. Very unsafe. Anybody know what that was?
Forgotten Weapons Stuck in foot lockers in old vets's attics? I was told that means prision for life in Japan, maybe in American veterans houses or Philippine houses for example.
+Forgotten Weapons I love everything you do man I love how you get all these great artifacts and you show us how they work its fascinating you don't miss a trick tha.k you for showing us how they work and not making us feel stupid cause we don't know already respectfully Doc
I'm only 5 years late to the party, but... The prominent anchor marking on the Inagaki caught my eye early, but what about the "$" towards the rear of the frame on the same side?
Seems like the Inagaki's trigger guard disassembly method would be a little prone to starting accidentally. Seems like a hard enough, and inopportune, hit or tap on the correct side of the trigger guard equals an accidentally disassembled gun. I suppose that'd be relatively easy to fix with a little more indentation in that slot above the front strap. Maybe it already was dealt with in that way and it's just hard to tell from the video....
Forgotten Weapons Fair enough. +ColtCommanderdm I'm having a hard time seeing the notch, but it seems like something they'd have thought of so I assume it's there.
Will we see a 7.65 mm Hamada type pistol? My Great- grand father carried one late in the war. He told my grandfather, it fired the Russian 32. cal., 9 shots mag, and was big as a Nambu
The Sugiura is almost a perfect clon of a Spanish Ruby 32 acp, widely used by the Frenchies during WW I, which was in fact a copy of the Colt 1903 as you said. The safety is not the same but the rest, yes. /watch?v=SQSPKYu1-vw
+Perico De Lospalotes Both guns are copies of the Colt/FN/Browning Model 1903. The Sugiura is closer to the original than the Ruby is because it possesses a removable bushing at the muzzle end of the slide and a sear-blocking safety. Both of these features are found in the original Browning design, but not in the Ruby. From what I could see, the trigger mechanism of the Sugiura seems inspired by the Ruby, however. This is suggested by the external disconnector.
The Inagaki has Japanese a marking/word on it. Back from the naval stamp, done in dots. I expect that's the name of the pistol or maybe, by crudity of the method, the name of the user?!?
It's hard to make out the first character, but the second character (towards the rear, they're written vertically if you hold the gun with the front pointing up) is 軍 (pronounced "gun", with the u like in prune), which means force/military/etc, e.g. navy is 海軍, Air Force is 空軍, etc. [A famous word using that character is "shogun" (general): 将軍... ^^; ]
That word indicates the pistol was captured by nationalist Chinese army, and probably have been used by them afterwards. It's the equivalent of "US property" marking seen on some WWII American guns.
Inagaki shiki? lol, "shiki" can mean unfinished or incomplete in Japanese. Perhaps the creator was actually saying the pistol is not in its final form?
I have always wanted a ww2 pistol. A real ww2 1911 is way out of my price range and so are these i am sure. Do they have any Star pistols or other very common pistols from the war in this auction that you could give us a view of?
***** They have a bunch, although at the lower price range you might be better off with one of the regional auctions. Take a look at their catalog and do some browsing to see what interests you...
dale myers Probably not sought after by such a large number of people for a number of reasons: they are much rarer so they'd cost more, and most people don't know they exist. I didn't until now.
i knew about them from "sons of guns" the tv show, in a gun deal that happen. and yes they are expensive. if you can find them. the price shows they are sought after or the price wouldn't be so high. prices are varying due to availability and demand. as they were more of the nambu's than these, witch will fetch more of a price. price is also dictated by what one will pay too. as the nambu cost more, stand to reason there is a demand. maybe not the same kind as modern day guns and prices. but those prices are due to quality factors and artistic designs on the better half
dale myers Yes, I know how supply and demand works. I was just confirming that these are not as sought after on the grand scale. Between a few people who are aware of their existence, yes they are more sought after than a Nambu. But that number is small. Many, many more people of the total gun nut population seek Nambus.
i don't think i mentioned any aspect of the weapons functionally but you make a great point. whether it was a design failure or not, it is the fact that it is an antique and it's rarity makes it valuable and sought after. many failed guns and the attempt to build them, makes them valuable to a collector of niche guns. all because of survivability over time for what ever the reason. many were destroyed because of warehousing reasons, some to recycling reasons. when some parts were re-purposed. and the rest scrapped. but to get a complete rarity is reason for a collector to pay for guns of such.
i think the Inagaki pistol is the best jap ww2 service pistol. with better stopping power and lesser moving part than nambu pistol which mean easier to service the gun
That second pistol is very interesting! I think if I had to choose a Japanese side arm from WWII, I'd go with that one rather than the Type 14 or the first one shown. Unfortunately I already forget which one is Sugiura and which one is Inagaki. Er wait, the first one is a Chinese copy of an American design. Still, that second one was REALLY cool! Since it only used .32 auto, I don't think that back piece of the frame that stuck up to engage the recoil springs has much worry of snapping off. At first I was kind of wary of it, but with such a tiny cartridge, nah. I don't get it though. It's barely over .30 cal, and I assume it's a straight-walled cartridge. Quite thin, thinner even than 9mm! Why not just extend the frame a little bit, give the hand more purchase, and give it a 9 or 10 round mag? Well, people back then were smaller than people now, I think the average height of an American, British, Canadian, or Australian soldier in WWI was something like 5'7 or so. I imagine there wasn't THAT much difference just 20-25 years later, so they definitely had smaller hands, which means a bigger frame would probably just be silly to have, especially when firing such a tiny round. Still, having a mag capacity bigger than 8 in a 'modern' detachable mag pistol, it's almost something worth writing home about during WWII. The only one that presently comes to mind is the Hi Power, at 13 round capacity, or 14 with John Inglis mags from Canada. Sure the C96 has a 10-rnd internal mag, but with those clips? Not exactly advanced, even by WWII standards. There's the schnellfeuer, which was essentially a select fire C96 with a 20-rnd detachable box mag, but that's practically an SMG at that point. A 20-rnd box mag of 7.63x25, that probably adds 1lb to what is already a 3lb design, isn't it? Oh well, capacity isn't everything.
John Ratko This is a bit of an oversimplification, but Julia focuses on having items with higher individual values, and RIA focuses on hiving a larger volume of items. Julia has a higher proportion of very high-end sporting arms that don't tend to get my attention. In addition, Julia does two gun auctions per year (and also works with several other areas - glassware, arts, etc) while RIA does 5 auctions per year (three premiere and two regional).
Forgotten Weapons I probably should have wrote that they have pieces more interesting *to me* since my interest is primarily in the development and evolution of all arms, not only firearms. RIA appears to have more of those examples in the firearm category.
That second gun is so ugly that it is past the ugly boundary and in to the cute section. If I were to carry a .32, which I never have and don't plan on doing, it would be something that is beyond ugly and into the cute range such as that cute little guy.
+Kyllein MacKellerann The marking is of the Jinsen Arsenal in Korea, not the Mukden Aresnal in Manchuria. Nonetheless, given its location and the logical association with supply chain, it could find itself as the sidearm of a Kwantong Army officer - IJA and IJN officers have to purchase their own sidearms themselves, so go figure. That said, this sample could found its way into the Communist hands, alas not likely in the major field army formations, as they'd have Mauser most likely, smaller outfits that gets by with whatever comes up. Now, nothing in the auction said how it got to the US...my bet would be part of the PLA contingent during the Korean War, and a GI took this one home as trophy - PLA standardisation to Soviet arms only took traction about late part of Korean War, earlier offensives they took a whole assorted array of weapons to Korea.
GraphicTs. com Yes, a rotating barrel for take down/disassembly (only). The barrel has several lugs that match up with corresponding grooves cut into the frame to keep the barrel fixed for operation (these are simple blowback designs). Several of John Browning's early blowback pistols were designed to be disassembled in this fashion (both the FN 1906 and the Colt 1908 Pocket pistols in .32 acp/6.35 mm.....and many, many, copycat blowback pistols from various manufacturers disassemble this way too).
.32 needs a comeback, i love the little straight blowback pop open guns like this.
MrLoobu Yes it does, I've got a little .32 magnum revolver that is super sweet shooting but I can't find rounds for it hardly anywhere these days, it sucks because .32 used to be absolutely everywhere
Keltec, Seacamp and Beretta make handguns for this round.
I've got a .32 bulldog revolver that's pretty sweet
I read once that the Colt 1903 is the most copied/pirated pistol in history, and watching the videos is kinda confirming that for me.
Wow that Inagaki pistol is really innovative. It almost reminds me of a PPK or Makarov in the way you disassemble it. It's truly terrible that Japan has such restrictive gun laws. We could see some more interesting designs coming out of Japan, but alas is not the case unless I'm missing something.
Hi how was your day?
Alas, you aren't missing anything. Less than 0.3% of the Japanese populace own firearms. There are possibly more guns in one neighborhood here in the U.S. than the entire coutnry of Japan. We'll never see the modern-day equivalent of a katana, and the closest we'll come to a semi-auto that runs like a Civic will be some Austrian gun :.(
Japanese military industry minnebea has built some cool rifles and sub machine guns, doubt we will ever be able to buy them but still interesting to learn about.
I just noticed that the sound quality on the videos is leagues better than it has been in the past. Very nice!
Hisoka2012 I've been making much more use of a wireless lavalier microphone.
The Inagaki reminds me of the Webley/H & R self loading pistols. The takedown, the exposed barrel, and the mechanism seem really reminiscent of those older pistols.
Right when I saw the Sugiura I thought it looked familiar, so I pulled my 1903 off my nightstand, it is an almost perfect match considering it's a wartime Chinese clone haha.
Crazy to think that there was a clone like that during WWII that is so little know.
Love your videos man!
I love how it’s speculated this was built after the Japanese had left. Like there’s no way something with pin ends like that has been manufactured under Japanese supervision. That’s how good their workmanship is/was. Amazing!
The japanese made the biggest battleship of all time too, their workmanship was damn good but their actual strategy was less than ideal considering battleships were basically outmatched by aircraft carriers at the time hahaha.
@@joaogarcia6170戦艦大和が建造された時はまだ、初めて航行中の戦艦が航空機に撃沈されたマレー沖海戦などは起きていなかった
I saw my first Sugiura pistol at a Kansas City show in the late 1970s. The gun came with a story . The vet entered a concrete bunker and he saw a tall 5 or 6 high stack of new crates. He knocked the stack over and out of a broken crate fell these pistols. He pocketed one and exited the bunker throwing in a satchel charge as he left collapsing the bunker. No one at the show had ever seen that kind of pistol before and it was many years before I learned it was a Sugiura. So many unanswered questions what Island? How many guns to the case? Why take just one? I don't Know.
For future reference (he said, commenting on a five-year-old video), "shiki" just means "type." So essentially it's an "Inagaki-type pistol."
Three years later, it proved helpful!
That second gun is really cool!
Inagaki pistol was inspire by Webby or HR 32 auto. I seen one custom made model for a Japanese Navy pilot with a 10 round magazine, and the barrel was a bit longer.
That Inagaki is very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
The second one is oddly beautiful
The Inagaki looks like a nice simple design. Shame it was not more popular. I think the basic design would had transitioned well into the modern era.
+Jesse Sisolack
Despite appearances, the Sugiura / Colt 1903 design was actually easier to make by the standards of the time. As Perica De Losplotes points out above, the Spanish turned out hundreds of thousands of simplified copies of the Browning World War I, and for 20 years afterward. Inagaki pistols seem like they were almost hand made in a very small factory.
+GR46404 The application of the arsenal marking looks not like from machine but cruder methods, by less skilled hands I reckon.
4:40 Ugly Duckling!? The Inagaki is looks amazing I want so bad. Alas only 500 or so made.
I wonder how well that trigger disassembly held up? It's a very interesting pistol, I'm speaking of the Japanese naval pistol.
probably worked fine on a .32
a very neat design, I sometimes wonder that some of these old ideas are due for a second look with modern manufacturing , metals and upgraded ergonomics a really simple but effective gun may come about.
The inagaki is a true firearm innovation ..thats impressively simple and well designed .. I wonder if the patent is still owned ..i think that would sell today if made in 9 mm as a single stack concealed carry gun
Hello again and thanks for this video. So as I could see here before, and not only here, the quality level in these 2 countries, were as it is now...
3:42 - 3:50 Reload Animation
I like polymer framed firearms because of their lightness, Corrosion Resistance and ease of maintenance. But the feel of all steel and wood is CLASSIC!
By the markings, it was from the Jinsen Arsenal in Korea, not the Mukden Arsenal in Manchuria.
Ian love the show. Could you possibly do an episode on the Wildey pistol. It's not that old but kind of forgotten?
He made this 2 years ago, and 2 years after your request. Is it the pistol you’re talking about?
ruclips.net/video/jYTVZiIybdk/видео.html
That Inagaki is very interesting.
Your videos are always interesting. You only have a few dislikes for each video. These people need not even watch. I bet they are always the same people. Keep up the great work.
Mr. Sagura, made a great pistol!
nice. I'm glad you showed that weapon.
Right on, I wish the Japanese had more pistols to choose from on Rising Storm than the Nambu Type 14. I hear the Japanese also had revolvers of some sort, and adding this rare Inagaki for higher level players so that it's still relatively rare would be a nice addition. I REALLY hate the Nambu...
whats the purpose of that metal stick on the inagakis slide?
That's the extracter. It has a hook the grabs the rim of the cartridge to pull the spent brass out of the barrel
Is that a crack on the frame just above the grip
FYI, Shiki means Type or Series.
Don't point it at my face, Ian.
Thank you.
does anyone know why most japanese pistols seem to look like boxes? they're never smooth and great for their grip, just wandering. no one else really seems to do this.
I think most safeties are like that. The only ones that aren't are selectors which point rather than cover. I.e. any thumb safety like on a shotgun or bolt gun will cover the S and show a red F to let you know you're on fire.
There was a Japanese WWII pistol that had a plate on the side that if you had a round chambered, and it was cocked, and you put pressure on the plate it would discharge. Very unsafe. Anybody know what that was?
Type 94 Nambu
Hi Ian, you said only a dozen or so Inagaki's are known to exist now... where would the other 480 or so have gone?
Son of a Zombie Deliberately destroyed after the war, lost in combat, stuck in foot lockers in old vets' attics, etc.
Forgotten Weapons Stuck in foot lockers in old vets's attics? I was told that means prision for life in Japan, maybe in American veterans houses or Philippine houses for example.
To the bottom of the Pacific or melted down for the steel, for rebuilding the country.
Ian, I know you're a pistol guy but do you have any more rifles ?
***** take a look at his backlog there is a bunch of rifle information and action, Ian is awesome like that.
***** In the coming week or so I will have videos on a ZH-29, a Blake bolt action, and a Japanese Pedersen.
Forgotten Weapons Sweet deal. Keep it up!
+Forgotten Weapons I love everything you do man I love how you get all these great artifacts and you show us how they work its fascinating you don't miss
a trick tha.k you for showing us how they work and not making us feel stupid cause we don't know already
respectfully
Doc
I really dig the Inagaki Shiki
A little bit of audio corruption? or is it just me?
I'm only 5 years late to the party, but... The prominent anchor marking on the Inagaki caught my eye early, but what about the "$" towards the rear of the frame on the same side?
Seems like the Inagaki's trigger guard disassembly method would be a little prone to starting accidentally. Seems like a hard enough, and inopportune, hit or tap on the correct side of the trigger guard equals an accidentally disassembled gun. I suppose that'd be relatively easy to fix with a little more indentation in that slot above the front strap. Maybe it already was dealt with in that way and it's just hard to tell from the video....
gkimsey If you look closely it is spring loaded and rests in a slight notch when reassembled.
ColtCommanderdm Yeah, I think it would be very unlikely for it to come loose unintentionally.
Forgotten Weapons Fair enough. +ColtCommanderdm I'm having a hard time seeing the notch, but it seems like something they'd have thought of so I assume it's there.
Looks like a Markov highpoint
4:27 "This somewhat ugly duckling of a pistol is an air wrench meant for removing the lug nuts from cars wheels."
激レアな銃ですね。素晴らしい！Woderful!
Will we see a 7.65 mm Hamada type pistol? My Great- grand father carried one late in the war. He told my grandfather, it fired the Russian 32. cal., 9 shots mag, and was big as a Nambu
Wow these pistols are cheeky
Where is Canadian Terri???
how many bullets may contain the Inagaki Magazine? And What Caliber?
He says at 5:28 in the video that it's an 8-round magazine of .32 Auto rounds.
Did the Colt 1903 have the rotating Barrel?
The Sugiura is almost a perfect clon of a Spanish Ruby 32 acp, widely used by the Frenchies during WW I, which was in fact a copy of the Colt 1903 as you said. The safety is not the same but the rest, yes. /watch?v=SQSPKYu1-vw
+Perico De Lospalotes
Both guns are copies of the Colt/FN/Browning Model 1903. The Sugiura is closer to the original than the Ruby is because it possesses a removable bushing at the muzzle end of the slide and a sear-blocking safety. Both of these features are found in the original Browning design, but not in the Ruby. From what I could see, the trigger mechanism of the Sugiura seems inspired by the Ruby, however. This is suggested by the external disconnector.
The Inagaki has Japanese a marking/word on it. Back from the naval stamp, done in dots. I expect that's the name of the pistol or maybe, by crudity of the method, the name of the user?!?
It's hard to make out the first character, but the second character (towards the rear, they're written vertically if you hold the gun with the front pointing up) is 軍 (pronounced "gun", with the u like in prune), which means force/military/etc, e.g. navy is 海軍, Air Force is 空軍, etc.
[A famous word using that character is "shogun" (general): 将軍... ^^; ]
Miles Bader Hm, interesting. Thank you very much.
That word indicates the pistol was captured by nationalist Chinese army, and probably have been used by them afterwards. It's the equivalent of "US property" marking seen on some WWII American guns.
I'm curios how much of this arcane knowledge you have in your head, vs. what you are given at review time, Vs. what y you figure out on the fly.
That Inagaki looks to be about about 1/4 barrel by length.
Inagaki shiki? lol, "shiki" can mean unfinished or incomplete in Japanese. Perhaps the creator was actually saying the pistol is not in its final form?
普通に型番や形式などを表すのに使います
Inagaki - oh look half-a-century old five-seven
Thanks for uploading many of Imperial Japanese pistols.
Are they employed 9mmPara or 8mmJap? I am not good at English, sorry.
.32 ACP
Thanks a lot. I like Inagaki-pistol.
Looking at Sugiura - oh look its Tokarev.... Looking at Tokarev - oh look its Browning.....
EDIT: I forgot to add Norinco
Nice!
I have always wanted a ww2 pistol. A real ww2 1911 is way out of my price range and so are these i am sure. Do they have any Star pistols or other very common pistols from the war in this auction that you could give us a view of?
***** They have a bunch, although at the lower price range you might be better off with one of the regional auctions. Take a look at their catalog and do some browsing to see what interests you...
***** I heard the CMP is selling surplus M1911's
***** What's your price range. I got a WW2 P38 for $800.
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ive got a ww2 1911 😁😁😁
i'm guessing these aren't the ever so sought after nambu pistols. papa through baby.
dale myers Probably not sought after by such a large number of people for a number of reasons: they are much rarer so they'd cost more, and most people don't know they exist. I didn't until now.
i knew about them from "sons of guns" the tv show, in a gun deal that happen. and yes they are expensive. if you can find them. the price shows they are sought after or the price wouldn't be so high. prices are varying due to availability and demand. as they were more of the nambu's than these, witch will fetch more of a price. price is also dictated by what one will pay too. as the nambu cost more, stand to reason there is a demand. maybe not the same kind as modern day guns and prices. but those prices are due to quality factors and artistic designs on the better half
dale myers Yes, I know how supply and demand works. I was just confirming that these are not as sought after on the grand scale. Between a few people who are aware of their existence, yes they are more sought after than a Nambu. But that number is small. Many, many more people of the total gun nut population seek Nambus.
lol..... your a nut.
i don't think i mentioned any aspect of the weapons functionally but you make a great point. whether it was a design failure or not, it is the fact that it is an antique and it's rarity makes it valuable and sought after. many failed guns and the attempt to build them, makes them valuable to a collector of niche guns. all because of survivability over time for what ever the reason. many were destroyed because of warehousing reasons, some to recycling reasons. when some parts were re-purposed. and the rest scrapped. but to get a complete rarity is reason for a collector to pay for guns of such.
I've got one of the Sugiura pistols, myself. #2103
That second one looks like someone tried to explain what a gun looks like to a 6 years old kid and then he drew it.
The inagaki is kinda bullpup. The grip is so far forward. Looks like it would be really well balanced
the inagaki is quite nice actually kinda steampunk ish
The first pistol looks like a weird crossover of a Five Seven and a 1911...
+CelphTitled which looks like a tokarev
CelphTitled lol
all of their cool pistols and they adopted the nambu...
i think the Inagaki pistol is the best jap ww2 service pistol. with better stopping power and lesser moving part than nambu pistol which mean easier to service the gun
Makes me wonder what pre-1945 gun-laws where, for private ownership in Japan
the second one it look like a copy of H&R .32
they dont like hammers fired guns do they? Thats actually rare to find a striker fired full metal gun
+Vice Mugger
Kahr makes them.
check out all the other early semi-auto videos he has. ; ) [he has a playlist]
That second pistol is very interesting! I think if I had to choose a Japanese side arm from WWII, I'd go with that one rather than the Type 14 or the first one shown. Unfortunately I already forget which one is Sugiura and which one is Inagaki. Er wait, the first one is a Chinese copy of an American design. Still, that second one was REALLY cool! Since it only used .32 auto, I don't think that back piece of the frame that stuck up to engage the recoil springs has much worry of snapping off. At first I was kind of wary of it, but with such a tiny cartridge, nah.
I don't get it though. It's barely over .30 cal, and I assume it's a straight-walled cartridge. Quite thin, thinner even than 9mm! Why not just extend the frame a little bit, give the hand more purchase, and give it a 9 or 10 round mag? Well, people back then were smaller than people now, I think the average height of an American, British, Canadian, or Australian soldier in WWI was something like 5'7 or so. I imagine there wasn't THAT much difference just 20-25 years later, so they definitely had smaller hands, which means a bigger frame would probably just be silly to have, especially when firing such a tiny round. Still, having a mag capacity bigger than 8 in a 'modern' detachable mag pistol, it's almost something worth writing home about during WWII. The only one that presently comes to mind is the Hi Power, at 13 round capacity, or 14 with John Inglis mags from Canada. Sure the C96 has a 10-rnd internal mag, but with those clips?
Not exactly advanced, even by WWII standards. There's the schnellfeuer, which was essentially a select fire C96 with a 20-rnd detachable box mag, but that's practically an SMG at that point. A 20-rnd box mag of 7.63x25, that probably adds 1lb to what is already a 3lb design, isn't it? Oh well, capacity isn't everything.
Interesting how he used English letters for fire and safe instead of Japenese
Kind of looks like a poor-mans version of the 1911
i thought it looked like a poor man's version of a browning hi-power.
The back of the slide on the second gun looks like Magneto's helmet. Just saying!!
$8,500 just a bit out of my reach
No offence at all intended towards James D. Julia, but RIA appears handle a larger number of more interesting pieces.
John Ratko This is a bit of an oversimplification, but Julia focuses on having items with higher individual values, and RIA focuses on hiving a larger volume of items. Julia has a higher proportion of very high-end sporting arms that don't tend to get my attention. In addition, Julia does two gun auctions per year (and also works with several other areas - glassware, arts, etc) while RIA does 5 auctions per year (three premiere and two regional).
Forgotten Weapons I probably should have wrote that they have pieces more interesting *to me* since my interest is primarily in the development and evolution of all arms, not only firearms. RIA appears to have more of those examples in the firearm category.
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That second gun is so ugly that it is past the ugly boundary and in to the cute section. If I were to carry a .32, which I never have and don't plan on doing, it would be something that is beyond ugly and into the cute range such as that cute little guy.
Inchon,Korea mfgr. ☆ ???
Might these pistols also been used by the Communists?
Probably not since Japan was enemy's of China and Russia and the inagaki was made in Japan the first pistol shown maybe but not likely
+Rick Hadley Maoists would use anything they could get their hands on, so it's possible.
+Kyllein MacKellerann The marking is of the Jinsen Arsenal in Korea, not the Mukden Aresnal in Manchuria. Nonetheless, given its location and the logical association with supply chain, it could find itself as the sidearm of a Kwantong Army officer - IJA and IJN officers have to purchase their own sidearms themselves, so go figure.
That said, this sample could found its way into the Communist hands, alas not likely in the major field army formations, as they'd have Mauser most likely, smaller outfits that gets by with whatever comes up.
Now, nothing in the auction said how it got to the US...my bet would be part of the PLA contingent during the Korean War, and a GI took this one home as trophy - PLA standardisation to Soviet arms only took traction about late part of Korean War, earlier offensives they took a whole assorted array of weapons to Korea.
+MwRYum Interesting. Thanks for sharing that info.
so weird and goofy, and kind of stupid. but the machining is impeccable.
I have a feeling the Inagaki is going to sell for more than $8K
It’s so ugly, I love it
STOP UPTALKING! AAARGH!
Why are we Japanese bad at making guns…?
Couple of cute little creepy
heh...cheeky pistol
small gun for small mind
That's a seriously ugly pistol
Did the Colt 1903 have the rotating Barrel?
GraphicTs. com Yes, a rotating barrel for take down/disassembly (only). The barrel has several lugs that match up with corresponding grooves cut into the frame to keep the barrel fixed for operation (these are simple blowback designs). Several of John Browning's early blowback pistols were designed to be disassembled in this fashion (both the FN 1906 and the Colt 1908 Pocket pistols in .32 acp/6.35 mm.....and many, many, copycat blowback pistols from various manufacturers disassemble this way too).