My 'Oil: The Vegan Killer' Video Was Debunked?
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- An unofficial part 2 to my video 'Oil: The Vegan Killer' addressing concerns, questions, and outright challenges to the original video as well as more studies on oil.
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My Oil-Free Cookbook: micthevegan.co...
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TIY Tiny House Channel: / @tiytinyityourself7733
Original Oil Video: • Oil: The Vegan Killer
History of Oil Paper:
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Study on Omega Ratios:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Mechanism of Bad Omega Ratio Harm Study:
journal.org/articles/ocl/full_html/2010/05/ocl2010175p267/ocl2010175p267.html
Old Greger Omega Video: • 40 Year Vegan Dies of ...
Daily dozen: nutritionfacts...
Trans Fat Raises LDL:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Trans fat clogging arteries is considered a causal relationship.
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Harvard Paper on Canola:
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WHO Paper on Trans Fat:
www.euro.who.in...
Original Olive Oil Artery Paralysis Study by Vogel:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Antioxidants of Foods Study:
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Antioxidants in Olive Oil Not Enough:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Olive Oil Good for SAD Dieters Meta-analysis:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Coconut oil raises LDL:
www.researchga...
Vegans 25% lower heart disease mortality:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
UC Davis Expert Rosane Oliveira Quotes:
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FDA Qualified Claim on Olive Oil:
www.fda.gov/Fo...
Postprandial Lipemia and heart disease:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Postprandial Triglycerides Deposit in Artery Walls:
www.researchga...
Olive and Canola Oil Raise Triglycerides:
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Nutritionfacts.org video on angina and fatty meals:
nutritionfacts...
Hyperlipidemia lowers oxygen content by up to 10%:
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Triglycerides make up a large portion of sebum:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Acne Sufferers excrete more Triglycerides:
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Dr. Esselstyn Study Stopping Heart Attacks and Stroke:
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CDC Obesity Cancers:
www.cdc.gov/me...
I’m went vegan last year because of your videos. I was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis in 2015. Since going vegan I have been able to stop my UC meds and have continued to be symptom free... yay!! Also my grocery budget is about half the cost now. Keep making these videos, your reach and influence are helping so many people.
I'm envious. I have IBS and lymphocytic colitis and unfortunately I continue to have problems. Still the best diet, though. No looking back.
Check out Andrew Perlot, he cured his UC with a raw vegan diet :)
EllaM1207 u can still cure it ;) go into the people who talk about detox and healing and protocols.
Dr.Morse
EllaM1207 - Check out IBSVegan.com for some good info on a low FODMAP vegan dietary approach.
I put this video off for a really long time (like a year?!) because this is something that vegans CLEARLY don't want to hear. But at the end of the day, as someone who is studying public health, it is clear that it is more ethical to share the information and let people decide. Also I am sorry that it because so long, I just had to address every point.
Mic. the Vegan great video, I feel WAY better off all oils
Mic! Great work as usual. Can you clear up the nightshade drama out there? And Grundy and his anti-chia crusade.
Great video. I would love to see you do your daily dozen one too. Please and thank you. :)
Really enjoy your content Mic!
What about Sacha Inchi oil? Omega profile: omega 3 (over 48%), omega 6 (36%) and omega 9 (8%)
I love that it is so much easier to clean my kitchen and dishes when you stop using oil! =)
And, having removed oil from my diet years ago, I steam most everything, I have not ruined a shirt in years with an oily stain from dropped food. And, as you point out, kitchen clean up is so easy when oil is not used in cooking, no greasy gunky build up in your body or your kitchen :)
Totally agree, cleaning is so much quicker now, I've been thinking lately if it was that much of a pain to clean on a pan can you imagen what it did inside your body ?
Cleaning might be better, but I hate the fact that even when I use a non stick pan stuff sticks to it and it takes such a long time to get nicely browned onions, etc. when I use water... I avoid oils, but cooking was easier when I didn’t.
I'm sure the same happens inside our bodies!
The Whole Food Plant Based Cooking Show I love frying with water and veggie stock. And yes I've noticed very much how easy it is to clean pots and pans when not using oil to cook. And then as I'm cleaning off the pan, I start wondering how that oil must be treating my veins if it's harder to clean off of cookware lol.
"Oil is to fat what sugar is to carbs. You're literally removing one macronutrient, and leaving all the good stuff behind." © Brenda Davis R.D.
Totally agree. Oil is a processed food, AVOID it like the plague.
Thats what i tell everyone when they say oil is healthy. Same with soy protein isolate. Just leaving the fat, carbs or protein is not good for you.
Olive oil and coconut oils are the least processed and are fine, as long as you do not eat it with refined or high glycemic foods (mostly Sugars and flour based foods, and well as starchy vegetables). For instance, the Greeks have been using olive oils for what, like thousands of year, and had relatively little problems with health related disease. Only recently that has changed there, due to poor eating and smoking. Look at the links I posted in a thread above. Its eating it with the wrong foods that promotes disease.
Sonja V
Brilliantly put.
What if I eat flax oil in the salad and eat the rest of the flax as well?
I use an air fryer every day so I don't have to use oil. Probably one of my best electrical purchases.
Me too!! Love my Air Fryer!!
I use a Phillips HD9220 air fryer. It's worked flawlessly since I bought it.
I want to get an air fryer! Are they expensive??
air fryers are supreme
I agree. I have a GoWise 3.7 and it's great for 1 or 2 people!
Daily dozen what I eat in a day video please! :))
Amiska5v5 yas
I appreciate your videos. I went vegan, I went gluten free, and finally I have gone oil free. As you know, the oil free transition was and still is the most difficult. Eating out is very difficult. Even vegan restaurants rely on oil too much.
Mike,
You are an honest man. That means you are a good man. If people are critical, please remember that for every nasty troll there are a hundred other people that are grateful for you. I survive as a vegan because of your generous help on providing real science and nutritional information. I thank you. As a brother vegan I am grateful for you.
Respectfully,
DH
2 things vegans DO NOT want to hear: No oil is good for you; No alcohol consumption is good for you.
Thanks for the video 🙏🏼
Who cares. Veganism has nothing to do with health. Dunno why it has been co-opted by a health movement.
@@Quincycle FR.
I'm vegan but drink smoke and other naughty things.
Just cos I don't want to kill sentient beings to have a tasty meal doesn't mean I give a shit about longevity, I like having fun too much (bad outlook to have I know, but i'm working on it haha)
@@alexhale8514 Grain production kills many more animals than meat production.
@@unclejack46 Wrong. That's a BS myth. And even if it were true, most grain we grow is fed to the animals YOU eat. Hundreds of billions of them, every year. You think hundreds of billions of animals are killed by grain harvests?? Unlike pigs and cows, rabbits and mice can run away, and tests show they do.
2nd biggest consumer of grains: omnivorous humans... 99% of people.
Stop spreading misinformation!
@@alexhale8514 Sometimes, rum is the only vegan thing on the menu. So....
Man. People REALLY don’t want to give up oil.
Peter Rabitt exactly lol
I don't even want to give up meat!
Cam you don´t have to give up meat!
Just choose the meats without dead animals!
It's easier said than done. Especially if you are a frequent procrastinator.
Cam agreed it was hard to give up oil. But admitting something is difficult to do at first is much different than just defending the bad behavior.
I think everyone KNOWS oil is not a "health food", just like how sugar isn't either. I do avoid oil wherever possible, but I'm not anti oil. Life happens. Sometimes I eat out and it has oil in it. I would rather my friend seeing how "easy" vegan can be when I order a vegan burrito at Chipotle than seeing me sneak my contraband tupperware into Chipotle lol. Yes, health is wealth, but having oil on occasion can't be that bad. Sometimes you just gotta live, you know?
Sachin Motiram shhhhh....don't tell anyone here ... but no one gets out alive...
Refined sugar doesn't have fiber or micronutrients, but it's not nearly as unhealthful as oil. People have reversed heart disease, diabetes, and life threatening hypertension (before medications for it existed) while eating all the sugar they wanted to on the rice diet. I doubt the same results would have occurred if they ate all the oil they wanted.
Ex Life "Live a little" in a culture that makes access to unhealthy foods easier than access to healthy foods, and disincentivizes regular physical activity has caused 2/3 of Americans to be overweight or obese. "Live a little" in a culture where healthy plant-based eating and regular physical activity is the norm would not lead to the same results.
@@abbreviatedalex2418 I don't think they mean that kind of live a little lol. I agree that you should strive to be as healthy as possible 90+% of the time but damn some things are just nice to have once in a while and if you can keep it at once in a while then you're good
Abi, I was responding to Ex Life above me. Ex Life said that the attitude of "live a little" is what has caused the obesity epidemic in the USA. My point was that our unhealthy cultural norms set a very low baseline for health, and "live a little" always expresses a choice in relation to cultural norms. If your normal choices are unhealthy, "live a little" piles on very unhealthy choices into an already unhealthy lifestyle that's reinforced by cultural norms. But if your normal choices are relatively healthy, "live a little" may mean a slightly unhealthy choice in the moment but won't affect your health in the long term. If our culture incentivized healthy choices, "live a little" would not have nearly the same effect on health demographics that it currently does.
I was resistant to this idea when I first heard it in a John McDougall video, but I did some experiments anyway: mashed potato without butter or olive oil, then tomato sauce for pasta the same way. I didn't miss the fats and in fact I actively preferred the pasta sauce without. Contrary to the myth that fat's a flavour-enhancer, without it, I could really taste the tomato and garlic. Much nicer.
So the upshot is, this was actually the first thing I gave up, while still figuring it would be OK to have a bit of meat and cheese, while being mainly plant-based. I'm so glad I did. The oil had been coming up on my nose and forehead as what looked like psoriasis and that unpleasant condition went away. My heart feels better. Other benefits too personal to go into. It's sort of the dangling thread that's unravelled my eating habits to the point where all I really want now is plant whole foods. The rest doesn't really feel like food at all anymore.
Thanks for the vids, Mic. Very helpful in this process.
I have been oil free for a few months now and finally went vegan about a month ago. Its been great so far.
Status update!!!
@@atrioxfulminare2945 still vegan and still oil free:)
@@Aura-py8qc
Notice any benefits? Any cons?
Have you lost or gained weight or at least find both easier?
Skin complexion?
Brain function?
Mood?
Share a bit.
@@atrioxfulminare2945 not really any cons but I noticed that my sinus infections have gone away. Most things otherwise have stayed the same. I find that the diet change has made me feel better overall. Not uncomfortably full after I eat. That may have been due to me eating too much fat previously. I think high carb is the way to go.
@@Aura-py8qc
Hmm, interesting information indeed. Thank you very much.
I myself was vegetarian from 2019 to 2020 and just 2 weeks ago I turned vegan. (Oil free as of yesterday).
The 2 weeks I have been vegan, I feel like I have noticed an amount of improvement associated with learning, i.e concentration, absorption of information and speed of recalling certain memories and information.
I've had no visual skin change, but my skin has always been fine. (If not at little dry here and there).
I'm a bodybuilder and have noticed no difference in terms of muscle mass or fat gain last 2 weeks, but I FEEL stronger. I put on my most amount of muscle in the year I was vegetarian and expect the same great results from the vegan diet.
Only issue is that I'm really, really hungry. I've always eaten for 3, which was a problem on my meat diet over a year ago in terms of fat gain, but not on the vegetarian diet and especially not on my oil free vegan diet. I compensate by eating the most filling thing I know, which is Oatmeal.
Do you have any tips on sating my hunger?
Cutting out oil is my favorite change I made to my diet! I didn't realize how gross it made me feel until I cut it out. I feel so light and have energy after I eat now! Anytime I eat a dish with oil it sits much heavier in my stomach and I just want to nap afterwards. No more empty calories for me!
Same
Cutting out oil has stabilized my energy levels (no post-lunch crash). Whole foods plant based diet for animals, the environment, and health!
Same. Bought a air fryer for my fries addiction lol
Whenever I eat fried food I crave super sweet stuff like Coca Cola for energy. Since cooking without oil fruit salad desert has my sweet tooth covered. :)
TheAltruismActivist AWESOME
Whole food plant based, no oil,no salt, no sugar(added to food) goes the next step from veganism.
"Have you tried, like, the less-gunshot-diet?"
*d e a d*
YES another vid explaining why oils are not that great for us, not just as vegans but as health seekers. So informative and an eye-opening vid. I quit oils of all kinds when i decided to turn plant based. It's been 8 months and the results are here; no acne, no painful joints and other results. Mike you really rock
Yes please do the Daily Dozen Video what you eat in a day!! I am always short one or two everyday.
Dr. Gregor just did a video on the Daily Dozen!
Christina Mikulski yes!!!!!
It's a lot of food, I don't blame you! Just wondering if the same holds true for females who weigh 60 lbs less than an adult male. I guess it all comes down to portion size.
I go by the GBOMS list: Greens, Beans, Onions, Mushrooms and Seeds - I can get all that in easily. I'm 5'2" and 110 lbs at 66 years - it's doable.
VoteGreen I like your GBOMS list. My portions have to be small if I'm to get in the daily dozen list variety though.
This is the best vegan video ever! ive been mostly 98% oil free for 3 years, and people thought i was crazy. I didnt know all the science but to me it made sense from a processed stand point and high calorie view. Thank you!
It's been like 4-5 months now that I've not been using any oil to cook my food. I cook on water in my non stick pan. Honestly the food tastes the same and I'm so happy I made the switch (thanks Mic!). Plus I can save money, good quality olive oil is damn expensive
Reading this in 2023 when the price of OO has skyrocketed. So happy to having stopped using it last year
I’ve been so bad with oil lately in my vegan diet, and I’m breaking out and feeling so bad. Gotta get back on the whole food, plant based, oil free diet.
Sam V make fries without oil. Yeah it wont be just as good but still delicious
Ugh me too, my face looks like a battlefield :(
YESS!! Thank you! It’s a shame so many people are in denial. Sorry, but we are NOT cars, we do NOT need oil 😅
Jessica Hawkins 😄 now that's gonna follow me all day.
So proud you are doing this. Vegans and vegetarians push back on oil and it’s sad to see. I have been whole plant based for five years and zero heart disease now.
David de Hilster if you don’t mind me asking, how did you learn you had heart disease originally?
Thank you! My father was saying a few weeks ago how his "nutritional idol" Dr. Gundry says to MAKE SURE you put oil in everything you can, smoothies too, 12 TBS a day! I'm like NOO! Why would anyone say that....
Gundry is a fraud.
Ewwww!
Before the studies of oil as bad for your health had been out there I already noticed the bad effect on me; the lack of oxygen in my organism and the heaviness. Then when I heard the studies it made sense to my experience. Still cultural indoctrination is hard to reverse even when proven wrong.
Me too. I have a genetic form of anemia (kind of like sickle cell) which means my tissues are always slightly hypoxic. When I eat oily foods I feel weak and have this feeling of air hunger where I can't get enough air no matter how hard I try.
God damnit... well okay.
zoorrken lol
All those studies with oils showing that it impacts your arteries is nice, but did anyone actually test this with nuts/ seeds/ avocado's as well? Maybe those foods have the same effect? Would be nice to know so we can have an honest comparison.
Anyone knows studies that tested this? (I would really like to know)
--> Triglycerides in the blood after eating a meal with an avocado or after eating nuts or something similar.
--> Artery function after eating a meal with an avocado or after eating nuts or something similar.
Asking the right questions
Not 100%, but there are various nutrients and high fiber in nuts/seeds/avocados that aren't in oils. It's confusing because they have high fat, high omega 6 often times. Maybe it's like a mango -- lots of sugar, but it doesn't matter because of the various good qualities in it vastly outweighing the negative.
I was watching a video by Michael Greger where he describes how high calories trigger immune responses in us, but the fiber present feeds bacteria which produces something to turn off our immune response. It could be similar mechanics with nuts/seeds/avocados, where we see positive results because of the fiber and other phytochemicals.
Hard to find specific studies like you mention. Everyone just wants to compare unhealthy diets against unhealthy diets to see what's the lesser of evils it seems.
When I gave up oil, about a 1 1/2 years ago, my hot flashes went away, my already low A1C of 5 went down to 4.7 and my cholesterol went from 198 to 184. I was eating olive oil everyday. I am going in for an annual in a couple of weeks. We'll see if my cholesterol is even lower. I've accidentally had a little oil here and there when eating out, I'm extra careful now. I think an accidental tiny amount eating out once a month won't hurt. I do a lot of cooking. Finding a chocolate without cocoa butter has been the hardest. Cocoa butter is just the extracted oil of the cocoa bean.
I eat avocado everyday and a small amount of nuts.
I would also like to know !!!!!
Dr Esselstyn has proven that most nuts and nut oils are pro inflammatory and are likely to cause vascular/arterial damage. There's still a jury out on walnuts as they are loaded with omega3's as I understand it.
I haven't had a single drop of oil in almost 10 years. My LDL cholesterol is bellow 70 mg/dL ever since I stopped using it.
Still off the stuff? I am now just off it for 3 months... I wonder how sustainable it is. But so far so good. I just have to cook at home more. But, hey saves money on eating out.
@@omnimatty I started consuming extra virgin olive oil last year after seeing Bryan Johnson taking it. It's hard to get enough calories if you're not consuming any oil, so take that into consideration when your BMI gets down to 20 or less. For me, that was the only reason why I keep on taking it. My LDL is still still under 70, but if I notice it going up, I'm gonna cut down on the olive oil.
I'm now in the 4th week of my veganism experiment - no milk, meat, eggs, or oil. I bend a little on bread, cuz I live in a country where it's extra difficult to live a vegan lifestyle (despite all the Buddhists here...). The result so far is : I have energy! I haven't had so much energy since I was a kid. And it feels like I learn things faster now....
Fusion what's the matter with bread?
its usually made with eggs. Not a big deal, imo, but if you wanna really claim veganism as some sort of achievement, you should be careful about bread. Or so I've heard. i can't read the labels where I am, so I just let that one pass.
Bread is flour, water and yeast, nothing more, sometimes salt but that's all ^^
Some bread recipes include eggs, or butter, or milk, but the vast majority do not include eggs.
Specialty breads do an egg wash on top, and I have seen butter as well. I say all in or nothing..but normally breads have been ok if they are whole grain. Jmho
I nearly cried when you said "Side effects may include paper cuts" omg. I love you just a little.
Thank you! I stopped eating oil, salt and sugar after discovering Dr. Greger a few months ago. Previously, I ate whatever, including beef, chicken and fish with oil and butter. After reading the health benefits of going vegan and SOS, I opted for that lifestyle immediately. I'm feeling so much better now! I'm glad there are channels such as yours that take the time to point out the scientific research (including who's paying for the study), and getting the information out to us.
Thank you Mic for not being afraid to share this information! Going vegan was great but going oil free whole food plant based is like night and day and just completely changes your life. Anyone that doubts this I dare you to give it 90 days to see what you're missing.
Lol I AM that person that eats whole food vegan, slips some processed food in there & *loses memory about it*
glad to see u follow the daily dozen
I have been herbivore for quite a few years now and my cholesterol is stupid low. LDL is 52, HDL is 48, triglycerides are 73, and I have about a tablespoon of walnut oil in a stir fry or salad every few days. It's good and inexpensive and easy to find these days and I also use it in baking once and a while, buckwheat pancakes, etc... but I always make sure I measure it so I'm not getting too much. I also add purslane to my smoothies with flax seed and hemp seed and pumpkin seed for iron, protein, fiber, and healthy fats. I guess if my cholesterol was to change I would cut back but since it's so good I figure I can afford a little once and a while. Also put some dark chocolate chips on my steel cut oats in the morning every couple of days, about 1 tablespoon. Nothing wrong with a little fun once and a while if your numbers are good, but if they start to take a turn then change things up and cut back. All my other bios are rediculous too and I never have any inflammation so I feel like being bad once and a while as long as it's not too much is okay. Great video though Mic, I think it helps people to know that even if they are plant based they can still screw things up if they aren't careful. Keep up the good work. And, if you haven't seen Eating You Alive yet, check it out. It's very helpful, especially to someone starting out on this venture of health and truth.
For all those fried-food lover, there is an alternative to fried foods: the air fryer. No oil necessary...but, ALL the CRUNCH!
And also all the carcinogens.
@@veniqer Why do you say that? Do you have a source?
I think we all know that oil isn’t good for us. (I do eat it lol) HOWEVER I know there’s no arguing that we shouldn’t be eating it. 🌱
Oil isn't bad for you.
cubs0110 yes it is. Like he said in the video, oil is just marketed as a healthier alternative buts its not a good for you.
cubs0110 Oh my god how fucking stubborn are you? Did you even watch the video?
The argument is health ,you have one life,so try to live it as healthy as possible so that you could enjoy your life as long as possible.
Why would you use oil,when there are videos showing how to cook food without using oil.You wont damage your health and you will also save a lot of money.It's a win win.
Ando B Okay let's be real here, a lot of food can't be cooked without oil or it just tastes like shit. Not saying it's healthy.
Once I cut down oil my cholesterol level went down. Am a heart attack survivor. I do eat less oil when eat out but when I cook I won't put a single drop of oil.
Thye Aun Ngo lovely seeing people taking care of their health keep up the good work!
Pls be careful eating out. Those seemingly healthy veg dishes are loaded with hidden PUFAs a lot to enhance the taste-bud stimulating quality. Virtually impossible to escape from the ubiquitous veg oils in restaurants.
Just learned again about the oils. Thank you very much. In the Netherlands we do not have these kind of video's to support us. Your explanation helps me to not prossesed oils to my food and be creative. Today I added homemade oilfree pesto (with sunflower seeds) to my salad and it tasted great. AND I lost 11 kg in 2.5 month. My BMI is below 25 now❤
Keep up the good work brother! Plantbased, no added oil sugar salt and zero flour for about 3 years now feel great and athletic performance went through the roof :)
What about when I smash a whole bag of sweet chili Doritos.... that’s still ok right??
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Mike....?
i eat plants seven of the top eight ingredients are salt, sugar and FAT. Yes, they are vegan, but they are worse for you than a bacon cheeseburger. But as long as you're chowing down on these, be sure to wash them down with a 2 liter bottle of Mountain Dew.
Peter Rabitt I do that once a week on my cheat day. It motivates me for the rest of the following week. Helps to keep me on track
Peter Rabitt I also shove carrot sticks up my ass. But not without dipping them in vegan ranch... I’m not a heretic after all...
Those doritos contains so much flavoring everything you touch start smelliing like sweet chili doritos after you eat them lol
yes on the what i eat video! youtube should give us an option to
I LOVE your videos! I'm almost 60 and unfortunately have only been vegan for 9 months and your videos have really helped me understand a lot of information about being WFPB. Thank you Mic!
SAD is striking out, vegetarian is a single, vegan is a double, whole food, plant-based is a triple and that little extra of removing oil is a home run. We step up to the plate every meal, snack and drink that we consume. Put those points on the board!
Woah, people were actually saying we _need_ oil, like it's a necessary nutrient? I mean, it's one thing to argue that it's necessary to make marinara[it isn't] but for life? Those people might have a blind spot that needs remedying. Good debunking of your debunking, Mic.
I'm not even sure what I mean--the controversy will likely persist--but TFP : )
tamcon72 I think the people may have meant that there are many nutrients that are oil soluble. However when you just eat whole food sources then there's no problem.
Boogieforme Yes there were people saying that we need oil in our diet to be healthy. The mistake they were making is the same one you're making in your reply here. They were substituting the word oil for the word fat.
We do need fat in our diet for a number of reasons including the one you mention here. There are certain nutrients that are known as fat soluble (not oil-soluble) nutrients. Even though oil is 100% fat it's not exactly the same thing. Fat is a nutrient that exists within food. Oil is a refined PRODUCT where the fat in that food has been mechanically separated from it. And that is what makes it so dangerous. Our bodies would never be able to separate the fat in this way through simple mastication of fatty food.
So yes we all benefit from adding some fat to our salads for example. However studies have shown that you get the same benefit of nutrient uptake from adding some nuts or seeds just as much as you would from adding oil. The difference is the nuts and seeds will not have the same negative effect on our arterial function.
From reading the comments under Mic's videos as well as others on this subject, it's obvious there are a lot of people that don't understand this distinction.
HeavyInstinct Ah yeah, that's what I meant, I'll just watch my wording next time :)
I'm realizing that many have some serious cognitive dissonance around this oil thing. Sometimes it's like talking to triggered meat eaters.
Peter Rabitt I've heard that before. No disrespect to your aunt, but where tf are people getting this information?! I'm always like "where do you think *oil* comes from??"
You are very informative, thank you
I agree with keeping oil to a minimum..but regarding the artery paralysis, I heard that exercise also temporarily causes paralysis...so maybe the paralysis part isn't the mechanism for aterial destruction? Maybe more research needs to be done...
My husband's grandfather is 88, has a pace maker that kicks in 30% - 35% of the time, as well as angina. He eats a traditional Filipino diet with lots of oil, fried foods, but in recent years a bit less meat than before. Still. Always frying everything in loads of oil and then saving the oil to be used to fry more stuff later. D:
Hubbie's mother says that maybe his daily dog walks are causing the heart issues, and I'm like wtf!? That's the best thing he's doing for his heart at this point.. it's the animal products and loafs of oil. :-/ Oh, and he deals with bouts of gout several times throughout the year, so yeah.
I eat mostly Whole Foods and don’t cook with oil (let me just say I don’t cook often). I don’t even own any oil. When I was a carnivore I ate a crap ton of it.
Yes on the what I eat in a day videos. I enjoy those!
Lisa Bowerman you were never a carnivore
Can we all agree that this makes sense and that if we want to occasionally treat ourselves to fries or ice cream, just do it (sparingly or often) without denial?
ChannelRichard Its up to you however often you want yo eat treats. Some people are healing chronic illness and can't get away with junk food, but if it doesn't make you feel like crap for a week after then go ahead! It's all individual.
You can have Vegan Ice-cream..and Air-Fried Potatoes....you dont need any oil or milk.
My problem is that I haven't eaten refined oil in so long that if I eat deep fried french fries they taste so greasy that I feel like I am just taking swigs off of the bottle of oil. But that is OK, oven roasted fries with rosemary and zero oil taste so much better. Now if we could just convince restaurants to try this the world would be a healthier place.
I also used to enjoy coconut milk ice cream, but it now tastes too fatty, and so I have switched to almond milk ice cream for the rare times that I eat "ice cream". And even that is likely on the way out. We just got a machine called a Yonana that turns a frozen banana into soft serve ice cream. No other ingredients. And if you add some other frozen fruit as it grinds up the banana you can and blueberry, strawberry, mango ice cream that is 100% whole fruit. A food processor will work to make the type of "nice cream", but I find the results are little more gummy than the Yonana produces.
I disagree. No way will I just do a little of anything that is not vegan. Why bother even trying to be a vegan if u want to indulge in crap that you know dang good and well is contributing to not only life long cruelty, pain and death of baby animals, and the major cause of pollution from factory farms on earth? Why do you need a treat from those that suffer so much? Why are u celebrating while they are suffering? Your "just a little when no one is looking" attitude is so hypocritical. The cows must be stolen from their momma's after getting a quick swig of the colostrum and the milk intended for the use of their bodies is the highlight of your happiness? Also, french vanilla has eggs, so u must enjoy seeing the male baby chicks getting ground up, alive-just for your little sneaky treat? Go ahead and turn your blind eye to the suffering animals, but as for me...no thank u!
I don't think the original comment meant that we ought to be free to treat ourselves to ice cream made with cow's milk:)
so true! every time I eat tiny amounts of oil my allergies act up big time. i start wheezing like crazy.
LALALALALALA *drizzle oil into my ears*
oil is nasty
I feel that oil is added to things out of habit more than necessity. I cook for a living and there are ton of applications that don’t require oil but is used in the cooking process for utility reasons rather than health reasons (food sticking). The awesome thing about being human is you can eat whatever you want. Posting a video about oil being bad just means that now you don’t get to eat fries and be ignorant at the same time. Good video as always man.
Most Medical people are now agreeing with you. People realize that Olive Oil & other "good oils" are not good for us!
Hey Mike, I'd love for you to look into the whole LDL as "bad" myth. There are studies showing that it actually is correlated to heart problems and some studies correlate it to better heart health.
5:54 i think dr.greger recommends 1 tablespoon of flaxseeds per day, not 2 tablespoons
Eat 4 just to be sure
"...sounds like an Australian guy saying Nihilism" hahahaha!
Hey Mic, well done. Oils, even raw oils, according to those studied you show are not good for us, the problem is that they are tasty and is difficult for us to give up. Keep the good work and greetings from Spain!
I think of veganism like a role playing game. Vegetarian is level one, cutting out dairy and eggs level two, then you get to honey and gelatin at level 3, etc. Going no oil is like hitting level three on the health consciousness branch of the skill tree.
I am 44 seconds into the video and I can already tell you, you are right! I have experienced it myself!👍🏻👍🏻💚
We already consume oil when we eat avocados, beans, coconut milk (it's commom and cheap in average stores here in Brazil), olives, etc. We don't need to put extracted oils in our food. And nowadays is perfectly possible to get french fries without oil, using these fry machines we see on tv.
I am a power lifter I am 66 years old. I am completely healthy; I have no blood pressure, no cholesterol, no diabetes, no heart problems and healthy kidneys and liver. I have been eating 1 tablespoon of olive oil per day for 40 years. I don't use olive oil from the supermarket. I don't eat fried food or sugar and I only eat fresh vegetables and fruit, fish and chicken. For my age I lift heavy weights and I am stronger than 18 year old boys in the gym, and I'm 66 and I look 40 years old. Olive oil is healthy but the problem is people eat too much olive oil and fried food.
Nice that olive oil epithelial study had a whopping 10 participants.
I eat mostly oil free and don't cook with oil... but last night for my sister-in-law's birthday party we had vegan tourtières and vegan gravy and vegan cupcakes... I woke up with a splitting headache and literally felt hungover! (I haven't drank in over a year haha, it was such a shitty feeling I'd forgotten how bad it is!) Green smoothie this a.m. helped but man... when I listen to my body I feel the what oil does... so bad, bleurgh
Similar story. I can tell when I've eaten anything with a fair bit of oil by how my brain feels.
The reason that I would imagine people have for objecting to removing oil from their diet would most likely be because they cannot imagine how to enjoy the foods that they love without oil. They need new salad dressing habits, new recipes for mayo, ways to make fries....Especially, they have to cook their own food! This is hard for some because they have not made cooking for themselves a priority. It takes time and effort and new skills as well as dedication. I agree that oil is bad for you. There are recipes and techniques to learn that will make the transition possible as well as delicious.
Mike, I can't believe you're trying to get me to stop shooting up with motor oil! Not a single study has shown that motor oil is bad for my blood lipid levels
Thank you... after 28 years of being a lacto ovo pescatarian, then removing dairy, fish and eggs, oil was the last thing to go. It’s made a huge difference. I can’t wait for the health fair in May!
yes, i'd like you to do a "what i eat in a day" daily dozen type of video )
I do little to no oil.
I can without it actually.
Before I went vegan, I got employed at a local oriental thai restauraunt. Their foods are heavy in animal products, oil, refined sugar and salt- which never bothered me at first. My coworkers there would cook me lots of vegetarian food for free after each shift.
So I started off eating there day in day out.
But through 2017 I took on veganism and even largely reduced my oil intake. The more research I did, the more I was certain it was the most ethical, sustainable and healthy thing I could do for my body, the animals & planet Earth.
But it wasn't easy, since my body changed completely & talking about it was difficult. I gradually started eating less at work, weaned off products with eggs and dairy & they indirectly got the clue I was going vegan (which they then promptly began worrying i'd be protein deficient from... sigh). Instead of eating their cooked food (which was really oily tasting), I'd often just eat raw there instead if I was hungry, which they teased me about.
Given I was vegan, and ate lots more raw foods- if I talked about my oil free diet they'd think I was just extreme. And since they consider me to be deficient in so many essential nutrients, I feel like they'd just get the wrong idea about veganism from me.
I'm a naturally skinny guy, so I can't say I can impress them with muscle but I'm by no means without muscle. Still, because of that I get labeled for being scrawny & even though I do most of the heavy lifting they think I must be unhealthy.
Many nutrients and antioxidants are much more bio-available when consumed with oil. (Tomatoes , Garlic , Broccoli etc.) When persons were first feed via IV they didn't use oil...Didn't work; we need fat. Best oil /Fat ... Flax seed.
You need fat, but it doesn't have to be oil (which is a processed food and thus less healthY) and you don't need much. A few walnuts halves is enough fat to get the nutrients from a salad.
hey mic. I buy organic "100%peanuts" peanut butter and sometimes tahini and there is a layer of oil before I open it because it separates. do you think that what you talked about in this video applies to these oils as well? do you think it is better to avoid nut butters, tahini etc. ?
also, what is your opinion on algae oil capsules? It has DHA and EPA omega 3 which are known to be very healthy. I know you can produce them by eating flax seeds(ALA) for example but it is limited due to the limited amount of enzymes that is required to convert the ALA into EPA and DHA . do you think the EPA and DHA would even out the negative side effects of the algae oil?
I know my questions are special.
have a nice day. thanks for this amazing video btw :)
momo's mojo I also have this doubt
momo's mojo the layer of oil is just because peanuts are high in fat just stir it back in don't worry
I can't speak for peanut butter (hate the stuff), but tahini is roasted sesame seed paste. Roasting damages the oils. I make raw tahini in my spice grinder. It's not as tasty in hummus as the roasted, but the omega-3's don't get damaged (and you have to use a lot more of it to get the sesame seed flavor).
I believe they add oil to those jars. Because NEVER has the peanut butter I make at home separated. Never. So that shit is gross.
i was going to ask these exact same questions! I really wish he would answer.
I'm here for an ethical time, not a long one *clings to vegan cheese and olive oil*
Al Pal lmao 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
You can make oil free cheese!!! I just made oil free hummus too :)
TwoSnakes OneSword but I like violife and so delicious. Kite hill is oil free but it doesn't melt
T T are you doing yoga because that was a stretch
lmao, the original is usually chanted at me when I mention i’ve gone vegan but i think i’ll respond w this from now on!
I can only agree with you when presented with scientific evidence like this, but the problem with fats that are not oil is that they are way more expensive, so as a student it's almost impossible to be oil-free
Knowledge is knowing so you can make better choices when you need to and I like that he is putting the information out for those who are circling around the truth but need to remove oil to restore their health
I am 47 and used oil every day. Last year I did my annual check up and got the worst results like high glucose, high blood pressure, high triglycerides, obesity and so on . In order to find the solution I started watching RUclips videos and decided to change my life style. I removed wheat flour, refined sugar and oil from my diet and I continued this for 10 months. I got good results. All the above mentioned high and abnormal figures came back to normal and I lost 59 lbs. I have good health now but I am not going back to carbs , oil and bread. For me , oil is like poison and won’t consume it anymore.
"Oh some shade!" Lmao I died awesome video man!
No Oil! Love your vlogs-thank you so much for getting the information out there(no matter how much people aren't ready/able to hear it)
So charismatic Mic. I am throwing away my oil. Heart disease runs in my family and I feel a difference when I eat cleaner.
Why eat anything? Why have a long life if you can’t enjoy it, you have one life, enjoy it! That does not mean you are irresponsible with your diet but eat food that you enjoy! You must be miserable, you look miserable! Hardly ever see you smile! Smile dude, enjoy your life!
I'm actually on the one gunshot a day diet. Instead of taking 3 gunshots a day, I have 1 very large gunshot
You know one of best indicator of how long you will live is knowing who makes your food. Is it someone you know or you don't know. Asian stir fry at least 5 to 7 table spoon of oil per serving. All we can do for starting is to reduce oil to half of what we typically do.
No desire for any oil at all. I wouldn`t drink them in a pure state.
So why do I want to put them in my tomatoe sauce?
probably the best and comprehensive material on oils i have ever seen!
I am working at removing oil from my diet. This was very inspiring. Thank you
I did my midterm presentation on “fat” pointing out how PUFAs ( most vegetable oil) actually have really high omega 6 which causes inflammation and what not and my instructor, though liked my presentation and gave me 95%, gave me a piece of “advice”: you need to be very careful when talking to the public something like that ( meaning: everybody knows that unsaturated oil is good for you, don’t reveal the dark side of it ) 😳😳😳😳😳😳
BRAVO for this video Mic!!!! I was brainwashed for the longest time on this topic. I am so happy I woke up to realize that we don't need this processed food at all. Grateful for Esselstyn, Campbell and others in this WFPB camp that helped guide me to this new way of living... dam it feels good! I really hope that more and more people wake up to realize that oil is killing them and that WFPB is the way to go. Keep up the good work Mic :)
Hey Mic, I just wanted to add a little info for women. I was under the impression that we women need healthy fats to produce hormones, so please ladies don’t give up all fats. Avocado, nuts, and seeds. Like Mic said.
Just wanted to say I'm a big fan of both yourself AND Unnatural Vegan. I think it's amazing how both of you are willing to talk about facts over fads, even if you firmly disagree on a lot of topics. I think the problem is that modern day science has given us a false sense of grip on life and sometimes facts just aren't as simple, so it's important to be willing to bounce ideas around to establish where the firmest, safest presumption lies.
I really appreciate the hard work Mike does for us. And I appreciate that he sites he sources. Thank you Mike. I've been hearing a lot of conflicting evidence about extra virgin olive oil. My confusion is probably stemming from listening to Dr. Valter Longo who is a large proponent of extra virgin olive oil and sites studies whereby people consuming over a liter of extra virgin olive oil a week are much healthier than non olive oil-consuming counterparts, essentially concluding the more extra virgin olive oil you consume the healthier you'll be. So I'm confused but likely best to play it safe and cut out all oils except your omega 3's, I take a plant-based omega 369 3 heavy blend everyday
I can see your frustration (in this video and your other "my video was debunked" responses), and I really feel for you Mic. Despite your thorough and rigorous research, you have to keep reiterating obvious logic because people just keep missing the point -_- keep doing what you're doing, because it's great! You're a solid reference point for me when I get in debates with carnists, because I know your science is rigorous and accurate.
(P.S. hope to support you on Patreon one day!)
I eat natural nut butters that have the oil floating on top. Does that still count as oil consumption? Or does it not because I am eating it with the nut butter (and probably an apple too)?
Karamoonsage I was curious if full fat coconut milk counts too?
Alysia Wilson not as oil but it is high in saturated fat!
TwoSnakes OneSword thank you!
What I still don't get - how can a handful of walnuts be healthy, but a tablespoon of (unprocessed) walnut oil is dangerous? Or flax seed? Or pumpkin seeds?
All oil is processed.vWhen fiber is stripped from a whole food, most beneficial compounds are also removed. Dr Greger has a video on this very subject.
And vegetable oils are almost always processed with high heat, to extract the most oil possible. That heat converts some of the healthy oils to trans-fats. That's the big problem with commercial canola oils, and why they contain trans-fats. Trans fats are not detectable in the canola seeds, but are in the oil after pressing under high heat.
Brad Hansen yeah, that' s something I aware of. I meant cold and mechanical pressed oils. Still can't really wrap my head around the "only good in the whole nut, but damaging when isolated" thing. I was always told that fat gets seperated from fiber and everything during digestion anyway and is absorbed isolated. I have to do more research until I understand this matter.
Entertain this thought:
How many oranges it takes to create 1 glass of juice, and then ask yourself how many oranges you can comfortably eat in 1 sitting vs how many glasses of OJ.
In the same way that juice becomes such a concentrated and freakishly easily digestible form of concentrated sugar, it's the same for oil.
Relatively small amounts of oil are painstakingly extracted from food and concentrated. The human body is not designed to consume fats in this form!
I remember I went to a doctor that had a 7 foot tall stack of coconut cream that he pushed to his patients. I followed his advice and began dowsing my food with copious amounts of olive oil or coconut fat to the point where my plate looked like an oil soup. Needless to say I was very miserable for that short span of time. BAD DECISIONS
so glad i found this channel. i loves some science and sass and each one keeps me more and more motivated.
Lmao." have you tried the less gunshot deit"
FINE!!! OK i'll stop eating oil then :((((
Just the odd bit here, when I cook Indian foods with no oil, they seem kinda dry and sawdust-y (probably due to the amount of dried spices). However, the addition of fresh or frozen chopped okra, not much, just a quarter cup or so in an entire pan, will give the feel of oil. Cooked okra is kind of slimy, and I don't like it much by itself, but it adds a nice mouth feel if you're trying to give up oil. I always keep some that has been lightly steamed frozen in my freezer, just to give foods that taste too dry a more palatable consistency.
Stewed prunes with cooked oatmeal will add moistness to desserts. I use that instead of oil in my baked goods. Texture wise, they aren't quite the same as oil, but at least your desserts won't resemble baked sawdust. They're a nice addition to black bean brownies, for example. I find the brownies way too dry without them.
I'll still use coconut oil for a skin cream because it makes my skin feel so good.