The only person I really feel sorry for is poor Dead. What the poor kid needed was help and instead he's infamous because of the spectacle made of his death.
@@nyakiamo476 It was the '60s and the stigma against depression was *heavy* - not to mention the dude almost got killed due to a bully fracturing his spleen and that sent him over the edge (as well as in a pharmacological coma for a while). He was SURE he was already dead but the dude never actually hurt a fly.
im sorry but that guy abused animals and from what ive read, wasn’t a very pleasant person to be around at all. yes he was mentally ill but mental illness isn’t really an excuse for that, he also most likely influenced Euronymous into having that same kind of mentality given that he was described as being a fairly normal person prior to living with Dead
Horrible but it was also horrible of him to let his (what he probably thought was his friend) to walk into that horrific scene. I guess it uno reversed on him and ended up giving this gruesome scene to a psycho.
no for real ... after being in the scene for a while im finally taking the time to learn about this and when he said about the album cover i felt SO disgusted and disturbed. like theres no justifying it. extremely sad what happened to him
I had a couple of guys renting out my basement for years. They were heavy into black metal. I lovingly referred to them as my basement trolls. Best housemates I've ever had. They decided one day that they were going to teach me about black metal (It failed horribly) so it became a running joke in the house that they would just pop into whatever room I was in and yell "Who killed Mayhem??" and I would immediately reply with "Burzum killed Mayhem" because that is the only thing I could remember from that one day. I miss those guys. Nothing like walking into your kitchen at 9am to find a guy in corpse paint, wearing the usual metal attire but with the addition of a cute flower covered apron doing your dishes lol
Im same age as them and deep in this culture musically and never had violent friends, actually more respectful and helpful compared to disco or glam rock guys.
I feel bad for Dead, Hellhammer, and Necrobutcher. Sounds like they just wanted to have fun, be different, & make music, even if they were angsty/edgy kids. Poor Dead…he needed real help & suffered in silence. The 80s-90s were a rough time to have mental health struggles.
I’d argue that the current time is fairly rough to have mental health problems. These kids are being abused by big pharma. 80’s and 90’s they were at least ignored.
@@norabora624no need to feel bad about any of them except maybe Dead. The others did this shit to themselves but Dead actually was going through shit. I don’t think he was depressed or anything I think he just genuinely felt like he was supposed to be dead
"...Varg argued--he 'Vargued'--that he was acting in self-defense" these kinds of quiet, under the radar, varguably inappropriate inserts always crack me up, I appreciate them
this case is so ignorantly covered in general and rife with incorrect information,and I love coffee house crime but I figured he'd incorrectly cover it as well but i was somewhat pleasantly surprised that he did include some usually uncovered information,but varg did not burn down churches because of Satanism,satanic beliefs had absolutely nothing to do with it,varg felt Christianity blatantly destroyed Norwegian pagan cultures and the original religions of Norway so he burned down the churches because the churches and early Christians desecrated early Norwegian holy sites and burial sites...absolutely nothing to do with Satan and varg was not a Satanist,on top of that I think people should watch re-uploads of vargs channels upload about the early black metal scene and his relationship with euronymous theres alot more to it than what people say,varg is not a fucking neo nazi I think people really ignorantly portray him,he's opinionated as hell and has very old fashioned traditional values but he's not a nazi and euronymous was an absolute piece of garbage and this is not me being a fan boy because I like burzum and mayhem equally they were both incredible bands,but anyone who takes pictures of his dead friends suicide for kicks is a grotesque human being,also to correct one point you made...euronymous didnt make those pictures his album cover,dawn of the black hearts was a Brazilian mayhem bootleg album and people in the scene got ahold of the photographs and used it as the album cover it was directly euronymous himself
@@dEAthlikEstAtic If someone is having suicidal thoughts you wouldn't encourage them, you absolute psycho. Wtf is wrong with you? You're a terrible person if this is how you'd approach someone with suicidal thoughts.
overcoming adversity is the very reason why we do what we do. and helping eachother overcome eachother's struggle should be the default. fck the defeatist mindset. life can always get better@@dEAthlikEstAtic
The photo of Dead’s body was not used by Euronymous, it was used by someone else to make the bootleg live album “The Dawn of the Black Hearts” and that Bootleg would eventually get an official release with higher quality audio and unreleased live footage dvd under the name “Live In Sarpsborg” with Necrobutcher on the cover. The band has already said that they REALLY hate that photo(s) and Necrobutcher said in an interview that he was planning to kill Euronymous himself because of it.
used or not, he took that photo, and obviously shared it around. How did this random bootlegger get it? This was mostly before internet. Euronymous probably printed it off like he would flyers for shows..
The murder in Lillehammer mentioned here was actually committed by Faust who was another member in the scene from the band Emperor. He admitted to it and served time in prison as well for the murder.
More "fun" details about said murder: the man killed was homosexual and it's widely thought that Faust committed the murder as an act of hatred towards him (I believe his side of the story is that the man came onto him and he killed him out of revulsion, but who knows). Second wave black metal was an absolute mess of hatred and bigotry, and some of that seedy underbelly still persists to this day.
If you have any doubts that Euronymous was a jerk, check what his bandmates, Hellhammer and Necrobutcher have to say about his murder. Those are the people who arguably knew his real self best, and both of them don't hold Varg guilty. Says quite a lot.
@@PoisonAngelGirl I think it's because euronymous killed Dead. Everyone loved him. Euronymous tortured him psychologically. His attempt at suicide was his doing already, but I am sure he shot him. Who can pull of a shotgun to the face with cut wrists and..neck? After losing all that blood..
Varg saved black metal by killing euronymous, it would’ve never evolved. Dead is still one of the best vocalists in the genre and arseth pushed him to kill himself while already suffering for cotard delusion.
I got the album Deathcrush when it was first released and together with the record was a coupon that said a photo book was initially planned to be included. However, as the photo book was not at the time completed, the coupon could be sent to the band and they would send the book out once it was completed. So I sent the coupon to the address with a letter commenting what I thought of the album. After a while I got a written letter back from Euronymous. This exchange of letters continued for a few more times when it suddenly stopped. I didn't really know what was happening with the band as this was a time before the internet and it wasn't until a number of years later when I finally had internet access that I found out he was killed. In the letters that I received from Euronymous, he actually came across as a nice person and to this day I still have the album, the letters and a photo that he sent me with one of the letters.
@@alexsutton2271 It was largely about music and I remember him saying that he was starting a record label. Since I live in Hong Kong, he was also interested in knowing if there was a possibility of performing here. I basically wrote back saying it wouldn't be worth it as there wasn't much of a metal scene here back then.
@@MsTinkerbelle87 It’s interesting🤷🏻♂️ just like how literally everyone LOVES true crime stories these days. Those actions being told are illegal too, dude😂😂
@@MsTinkerbelle87 yea but very rarely do anyone dare tackle this because theres a metric fuckton of misinfo. you cant trust varg, you cant trust any of the information 100%. Count Dankula for example refuse to cover any of this due to the heavy dispute in whats fact and fiction.
I would have never expected you to go for this case. But you've covered it pretty well for a time frame of just 20 minutes. I've seen this Story covered dozens of times, some even more extensive and in depth. But never quite this well narrated I must say! Well done, Adrian.
A couple things you got wrong: The Dawn of the Black Hearts is not only NOT a Mayhem album, but it also came out in '95, 2 years after Euronymous' death. The Dawn of the Black Hearts is a bootleg tape from the colombian scene. Now you might be wondering, how did they get Dead's photo to use as a cover? Euronymous had sent copies (not known if all of the same or different photos) to many of his penpals around the world, one of which in Colombia. That might also mean that despite Euronymous' father having burned Dead's photos after Euronymous death, there might still be more copies of the set out there. Euronymous didn't open the front door and followed some blood trail. Instead he had climbed through a window because he had no spare key, window which was of Dead's room so he immediately came across the scene. Varg is heavily suspected of having set fire to Fantoft, yes, but he technically was never proven to have been the perpetrator which is why that burning wasn't accounted in his sentence. The church burnings also weren't in the name of satanism, but rather as a retaliation to christianity. The satanism part came as a mix of lies of their own for shock purposes and widespread media misinformation. Ironically you could say that the lie became the truth, because after all that misinformation some copycats started doing the same in name of satanism thinking that's what the movement was all about. Varg didn't claim he killed a man in Lillehammer, but rather that one of them did which was true. I'm not sure where you got the "it's yet to be proven" part from, it's easily verifiable that Faust has been sentenced for it and the details of the events are also known. Varg didn't snatch Euronymous' knife, Euronymous never even got to get one even though he did try. Varg had a swiss army knife in his boot which was what he used. This one is a bit of a nitpick, but the guy who stayed at Varg's apartment was simply a friend that was already there when Varg and Blackthorn decided to drive to Oslo. He wasn't a roommate. They supposedly let him stay because he wanted to finish a movie they were watching. Some of your pronunciations were off, but that I think it's perfectly understandable.
So fucking boring! When people can't even stand for something and keep playing in the shades. That makes everything sound as boring and nerdish as a fucking harry potter book.
I can’t imagine anyone, with or without a ring on her frickin’ thumb, giving anything but a sigh of relief upon finding out that Vikernes was not interested.
He is better than most males in this era, I am a brown woman and just because he did stupid sh... as a youngster and have some colorful views doesn't mean he is not a better man than most WOKE soy males...
@@BikingVikingHH There's a substantial number of women who are into serial killers. So I have no problem believing that the Burzum Nazi would have a harem lol
YES YES YESSSSSS I CAN’T BELIEVE YOU’RE COVERING THIS I’ve been a metal fan for much of my life and this case has disturbed me for a long time. I’ve hoped that my favorite true crime channels would cover it for awhile, but I didn’t think it would happen. Thank you for bringing it to light. Edit: lol @ Varg acting like he’s such a gift to women that he thinks they’d be devastated if he didn’t like their thumb ring (????). Sir, you burned down ancient churches, stabbed your friend to death, and left him in a stairwell. Women don’t _want_ you to like them. I also feel so bad for Dead. He needed help so badly, but he met Euronymous instead. I often wonder what he would have gone on to do if he’d gotten the support he needed before it was too late. I’ve seen “that” album cover and it haunts me, even more so knowing that Euronymous delighted in it. Dead didn’t deserve to be defiled like that. Even so, Euronymous didn’t deserve what happened to him either. It’s a terrible case. btw I've also had roommates who were so obnoxious that they made me want to sleep outside lol
What about Euronymous convincing his band mate Dead to kill himself? The story behind this seems to be that Euronymous thought he was a real satanist and said he wanted to murder varg, so much it got around the entire town. Using the photos of there band mate after he committed suicide was fucking gross too.
It's hard to know whether it was plain murder or self defense in the exact moment it happened. But as you said, there's smoke but no fire with Euronymous - and I personally believe Varg killed him before there was any need to defend himself. Euronymous fleed to grab a knife to defend HIMSELF, not the other way around.
Nah, it was murder clear and simple. ¨Count" Varg had and still has a massive superiority complex and he repeatedly demonstrated a tendency towards violence and destructive behavior with his serial church burning. Varg is one of those smug arrogant bastards who's too smart for his own good so he ends up believing his own superiority BS (and acts on it too).
I agree, nobody would go to someone's place after hours for contract stuff knowing y'all loathe each other n you've been told he was gonna kill u. He went there to kill him💯 Edit: and he set up an alibi already
Driving hours to meet a guy you're supposedly scared of at early hours of the morning, and then stabbing him twenty something times in the back (and through the skull) is not self defense. He didn't call emergency services either, it was a homicide, how more obvious does it have to get?
Varg's church burning is also said, by the man himself, to be in relation to anti-christianity, as opposed to Satanism. That Christianity had ruined the native religions of pre-Christian norway. Christianity was an occupying force where it didn't belong and must be eradicated. Something like that.
@@janm7163 he's always maintained that he didn't light the fires (which we know is bullshit). But then he gives insight on why the people who did it decided to do it. It's why I can't even hate Varg, he's just so bonkers.
Deciding to straight-up destroy history, rather than occupy and reclaim the church as a pagan temple, signifies smoothbrained subhuman mentality. I told him this myself but his mouth-breathing groupies jumped on and accused me of being a christian. Lol
One of my “favourite” cases. Varg and Euronymous are/were both idiots. Especially Varg. I grew up with metal heads and they are literally the sweetest people to be around. They’re not like these d-bags.
He is an active neonazi now. I accidentally engaged in a twitter discourse with him. I did not know it was THE metal meme himself at the time. Long story short, he blocked me because I said homophobia isn't cool and he didn't know what friendship meant. But before i was blocked i saw his page and it's bad. Lock him up again I say, black metal has better things to offer than racism, homophobia and straight up arson and murder.
Vargue was a murderer and Euronymous was really the biggest idiot. He single handedly created some of the worst perceptions about black metal including satanism and white supremacy.
Hellhammer didn't give a shit about Dead. It was Necrobutcher who was furious at what Euronymous did and left the band, even claiming to planning on killing him.
As a metalhead who is familiar with this story I didn't expect it to be covered on your channel! It's pretty cool now that I can learn more about it in depth because I never really thought to before.
Also, I enjoyed the movie Lord's of Chaos. Especially cuz I found out just before watching it, they chose to cast a Jewish actor to portray white aryan supremacist & "race-mixing" opponent, Varg Virkernes lol. Whether it was intentionally done to offend his beliefs or not, a person who is so offended by the mere existence of so many people / places / things is bound to be triggered quite a bit. But this one was particularly frustrating to him, because that casting decision was made on top of the very anti-varg and pro-euronymus composure of the film.
Some corrections: While Euronymous did take the picture of Dead's dead body, he wasn't the one to use it for album art. The picture was sent to a pen pal he had in Brazil and that pen pal used it to release a bootleg live album. The album wasn't even released until two years after Euronymous had died. Also you mention that Varg found it suspicious that Euronymous wasn't dealing with the contracts in the shop because it was outside of shop hours, but the record store had already closed by then. Euronymous closed the record store a few months before he died.
"If u r a girl that has a heartbeat, sorry not interested"," if ur a girl that enjoys breathing, sorry not interested" jeez what a delusional narcissist. Interesting story though, thanx Adrian
Great episode! Just a note, Dawn of the Black Hearts was actually a bootleg that exploded in popularity. It wasn't actually released by Mayhem or Euronymous
You never mentioned how obsessed dead was with death. He would collect dead birds and huff them before putting them under his bed because he liked the smell of death. He even tried killing cats to do the same thing but he could never catch them. He would also bury his clothes in dirt before a show so he could look more dead.
@@CoffeehouseCrime there is another equally as disturbing, case about the german black metal Band Absurd. It is obscure, but worth checking out as it gets pretty depraved, where they mock the murder victim in one of their songs. There are allegations that one of the murderous teens, had a sexual relationship with the parishioners wife. Those are people that shouldn't roam around among the general public.
The one thing you mentioned about "Varg killing a man in Lillehammer but it was never proven" actually refers to another murder, by Bård Faust of the band Thorns (Blackthorn's band), who got convicted to a prison sentence for that. Faust actually lived in the Helvete shop for a while and worked there, when all of the early Norwegian BM inner circle stuff was happening.
I'm pretty sure Faust killed that man for being gay and coming on to him randomly, at least that's what some documentary said which included Faust. Fucking tragic if so, just killing a man because he makes you feel insecure about your masculinity
Good evening Adrian, I came to realise that I am never too old to learn. As I am Afrkaans (my partner is English), and although I worked for an organisation that was predominantly English, I didn't know what Euronymous meant until now. He explained it to me. I call him my walking thesaurus. Thank you for one of the best channels on RUclips. Wishing you all the best. Regards from South Africa
1) What you didn't mention about Euronymous discovering Dead's body was that he had to climb through an open window. The doors were locked and there were no other keys in the house. 2) Euronymous didn't deserve to die but it's hard to feel sorry for him. He let his obsessions with image and hatred lead him down a dark path of no return. 3) The part where you said that Varg "vargued" nearly had me dying! 😂 4) The only thing that I'll get Varg credit for is that kept his neo-Nazi views out of his Burzum music.
@@keuwlcat1319 Are you people that STUPID? Reflect on the guy's life. Vikernes claims to be a neo-pagan (LOL!). OLD NORDIC VALUES! LOL! His entire life is based on benefiting from Christian forgiveness and redemption, and humanitarian european social-democracy. NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS. These are OBJECTIVE FACTS. All the rest, is just typical human bullshit. He is a coward and a parasite who doesn't work, never did - except for recording a few music albums - hiding in a farm, and living at the expenses of the French State and his wife. Like any Christian Priest, he is an hipocrite boring preacher. A total fake, and only imbeciles fail to see the facts.
As a law student, I saw Varg at the High Court here in Paris. (We've had a task to describe a court procedure and by coincidence, he was there sitting just near. And he had this huge bodyguard.). His stare was ice cold. And when he was asked questions, he pretended he didn't even understand anything, and replied to the judge "Varg? Who's Varg. I'm Louis Cachet". He changed his name now and lives with his wife, Marie Cachet. They have a lot of kids.
Well, murderous Black Circle incident aside, It actually was gross over-reach and gestapo like tactics to haul Varg and his family in, the way the french feds did. That said, Varg is undoubtably a sociopath, but this time, he was treated unjustly.
Found a tweet of hers which is rather telling on why she married him: "Addressed to young women: Always keep your hair long Hair is the reflection of years gone by. It shows a lot about your health in past years but also your behavior. Long hair is a sign of a stable & faithful personality. Long hair will attract people who are suitable for you." And "lot of kids" - you weren't lying!! That's an army is what it is lol
I'm showing my age now, but I remember when all of this was going down. The reputation of the black metal scene in Norway even became somewhat of a meme - to the extent that I remember getting a copy of a magazine about metal and it came with a sticker that said "Don't panic, I'm not a Norwegian satanic terrorist". Both did horrific things, but I have no doubt that Euronymous was murdered in cold blood, not self-defence.
@@ch0c0furi0us Well Euro did torment their friend into killing himself and was well known for being a twat and gatekeeping the community. Probably had something to do with why it ended up being so savage
John 10:10 10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. Jesus
@@HarshTruth711 Nope. Take your preaching elsewhere. This is not a place or time to be spouting off about your religious beliefs (especially considering the number of people killed in the name of your deity) and if you continue, I'm more than happy to point out the hypocrisy, double standards and immoral bullshit done by Christians in the name of their beliefs.
I really appreciate the none sensationalised coverage of this case from you. As a member of the Norwegian black metal scene since the early 2000s I can say that anyone I've ever met says that Varg is crazy. He is a talented musician, and Burzum is among the best BM bands I've known. As long as you can separate the art from the person. I listen to the music, but loathe the person behind it. Most people in the BM are good and level-headed people, and those few people do not represent us as a whole. When I joined the scene in my teens, I did not experience any judgement from people outside of the scene. Many of my friends worked IT jobs at big companies, showing up in Mayhem or Burzum t-shirts without any issue. I am sure that Varg murdered Eronymous with malice. So many things point to that. He claimed self defense, but common sense debunks that. Not only did he drive from Bergen to Oslo to meet the person he was "afraid of" alone, but he hid his tracks. Also, when acting in self defence you do not run after the person down a stairwell, continuing to stab them instead of running for your life.
It's honestly really frustrating how deeply Varg's influence permeated into the genre too. Black metal, more than any other metal subgenre, has a gigantic problem with Nazis and bigots, to the point where "national socialist black metal" is a subcategory of it that gets brought up a lot. You have projects like Nokturnal Mortem, Absurd, Peste Noire, and of course Varg's own work in Burzum that very explicitly promote hate, and even bands that seem like they would otherwise be safe end up being incredibly sketchy. It's hard to argue that without Varg being such a large presence, we might never have seen a rise in that type of lyrical matter. And it's doubly sad because black metal can go to a wide variety of different places. I'd even argue the Satanic aspects are some of the least interesting: within the same genre you can find the whimsical shoegaze influence of Alcest, the cosmic meanderings of Blut Aus Nord, and even explicitly leftist groups like Panopticon and Dawn Ray'd that stand in explicit opposition to NSBM.
@@jamesklingensmith7529 random thought but I didn't even know Alcest was black metal (I don't listen to them but I shot some photos of a performance they had for the venue)
Vargue was just a student of Euronymous regarding these aspects. Also i really doubt they are pushed in today's black metal though i am not the biggest fan of black metal as a genre but I can't bring to mind a specific band that does it anymore at least a mainstream one. Point is the white supremacy and Satanism prejudices regarding black metal were created and promoted entirely by Euronymous in the genre. He even wrote a book with his views about it saying he didn't consider any non Satanist to be black metal artist. The notion that these things are general problems of the genre is completely false.
I love the fact that you mentioned the Doomsday vault... that too has a tragic story behind it and the scientists that gave their lives for the seeds to be preserved. Hopefully you can cover it sometime :) Love and support this channel greatly
I'm a huge metal fan. I love the music, I love the fact that not everyone gets it. The deaths were huge back in the 90s and scared alot of people.. I feel absolutely dreadful for deads family though, imagine having to see that!
Dawn of the BlackHearts is a bootleg album, not an actual Mayhem release, and Varg brought his own knife with him that he ended up using in the murder. Other than those, pretty spot-on. Also, the phrase "Vargued" was hilarious. Well done. :)
I find it so heart breaking that The Dawn of The Black Hearts cover still exists.. I can't make sense of how someone could see their friend (or anyone really) in such a state after knowing they were dealing with depression and just think, "Hey! This would make a great album cover!". Takes a special kind of sickness..
As a Norwegian from Oslo, a fan of black metal and a fan of Coffee House Crime since the beginning, thank you for covering this case, Adrian! Exciting to see you cover a case from Norway, and I hope to see more Norwegian cases on the channel in the future!
Samme. Lite norske saker på nett på utenlandske true crime sider. Finner for det meste bare Belle Gunness om vi skal strekke litt på utrykket "norske" saker 🤣
@@MaidenViking_ hahah så sant! Det er synd egentlig, det er jo nok å ta av. Baneheia for eksempel, Breivik og Manshaus, Arnfinn Nesset og andre. Håper Adrian ser kommentaren min og dekker noen flere norske saker i fremtiden. Og sant, Belle Gunness er litt på grensen av norsk og amerikansk 😅
I truly don't mean as offensive, but I'm so curious as to why/how death metal has become so associated with Scandinavian countries. I get that to survive in years past, hardiness to survive the long cold months was needed, but how has the darkest of music become associated with the safest and most peaceable countries on planet? I hope my question doesn't sound ignorant-- though I know it must be. Is it related to other European ideology forced upon other cultures? What are your thoughts?
@@azurecielo52479 i think you meant black metal. Imo the scene is coming from northern europe, because of a few things: really depressive climate, where you have really long nights and harsh winters. And you have norse mitology, wich was overcome by christianity, and thats why there is anti-christian element
Well. One thing is the video. But in the comments here, a lot of people state a lot of things that isnt true/assumptions and guessing. I also remember this, tho . I assume you are from Norway,like me .
6:55 I know this is horrible to say as a general rule but while i have yet to see what happened to him, the fact that he could do all this to his "friend" and bandmate (including the pathetic joke of getting away with it and giving away necklaces of the poor guys skull) makes me feel zero sympathy for him as an individual and hope he gets his just rewards. That is a truly sick and twisted mind that could do those things and get excited about his friends suicide......
It seems immensely selfish of him. There's many ways to grieve, and Ask a Mortician has talked about the importance of rituals surrounding the corpse to help people grieve, but he didn't seem to care what his dead friend or his living friends wanted done to the body in memoriam, he just did it.
Trauma can cause very strange reactions. But I agree, he was the oldest one in the scene and should have reacted differently if he cared about Per at all.
@Huwhite Devil this is fundamentally untrue. Blackthorne of Mayhem is alive (the one who was present at Euronymous' apartment the night of the murder) Ihsahn, Samoth and Faust from Emperor are alive. Atilla, Hellhammer and Necrobutcher (the remaining {contemporary to that time period} members of Mayhem not yet referenced in this post) are all alive, the duo from Darkthrone are both alive (Nocturno Culto and Fenriz) Demonaz and Abbath from Immortal are alive, Satyr and Frost from Satyricon are alive... This list is just the guys who hung out at Helvete and it's still not even close to all of them, it's just to prove the point that the only two who died are Dead and Euronymous. It's far quicker to list those who are no longer with us than it is all of the Black Metal Inner Circle who are still here. Several did prison time aside from the two murderers (Varg and Faust) but otherwise they've managed to avoid loss of life.
Thank you for making this. As a metal fan, the amount of people who don’t know about the story behind mayhem is shocking and you bringing it to light is awesome.
I literally just brewed up, got back and this popped up just as I sat down. Great timing! ☕ I am familiar with this, this is going to be a good one (not that it's possible to be a bad one on Coffeehouse Crime!)
Varg claims in the court documents and police reports that Euronymous had physical plans to murder/torture him... who knows what REALLY went down. So many conflicting reports/opinions... been watching your channel for ages now, could not believe my eyes when you uploaded this, trve kvlt channel 😂💀EDIT: P.S. Dead was the real victim here.
It's more of the cowardly approach Varg took and the fact he still tries to play the victim to this day....bruh....killing a dude in his own home while he's in his pajamas makes you look like a bitch. And seriously.....you served your sentence and the Case is closed....nut up and just admit you killed the guy because he pissed you off. Doesn't matter what kind of threats he made, you became the coward when you attacked him in a vulnerable state so he couldn't win. Thats something predators do when they hunt for their next meal.
i mean from what has come out euonymus told multiple people that he was going to kill him and even asked for help doing it. so i mean... Varg was like fuck that .
Varg is questionable interms of honesty...BUT I think he is telling the truth here. From what I have read and heard about Euronymous over the years, it fits with how that guy seemed to be.
@@Drexus76 Except for, you know, his ISIS-tier church burning and idea that we should abandon our technological birthright to live in huts and be conquered. Other than that, cool enough I suppose.
Alright so as someone who has spent way too much time fixated on the early norwegian black metal scene, let me give a few quick corrections. 1: The idea that Mayhem used a picture of Dead's body as an album cover is a common misconception. That album, Dawn of the Black Hearts, was actually a bootleg live album, not an official release. The fact that the picture made it onto that album is still a mark against Euronymous though, as it goes to show just how much he was passing those pictures around. 2: Varg wasn't a Satanist, and didn't burn down those churches for Satan. Varg's is an Odinist neo-nazi, as later mentioned in the video, and the church burnings were according to him revenge for the Christianization of Norway. 3: We don't actually know what happened in that apartment, or who started the fight. That's all Varg's testimony, and Varg is a notoriously unreliable narrator who was trying to spin the killing as self-defense. That does get touched on later in the video, but the framing of the actual section on the murder felt a bit off. Also, the knife that was used wasn't one from Euronymous' apartment. It was Varg's pocket knife, which he pulled out and attacked Euronymous with, as Euronymous was supposedly running to the kitchen.
A true pioneer of the brutally beautiful art that is Black Metal. It’s the dedication to the craft, to the *LIFE* of Black Metal & his musical prowess; THAT’S what he’ should be remembered for… it’s a shame Dead & Euronymous took it too far, Dead, if alive today, would be the best Metal vocalist around. & Varg? Varg, though a brilliant songwriter/ musician himself (Burzum *was* amazing- before it just became synth-goth),killing him was a truly a power move in an idiotic attempt to “take the crown” from Euronymous… Black Metal is not easily understood & not for everyone - but those who do understand it see it for the true art it is- it’s about the music, the imagery & the atmosphere - not about “worshipping Satan”!
For those that want a deeper dive into this, I would recommend the film Until The Light Takes Us which details the black metal scene in Norway including the Euronymous case.
I wasn't expecting you to cover Mayhem story but it's so well presented with all the additional info and explanation that I don't think anyone else could do it better. Black metal is an interesting genre, there's a lot to it but not in a crime way. You're a legend Adrian, keep up the good work!
For my fellow Norwegians, or anyone else with access to NRK's streaming service, I highly recommend the four part documentary series they published two years ago. It dives even deeper into the beginnings of Mayhem and the Norwegian black metal scene, the events leading up to the murder, and the aftermath going into today. Slight pronounciation correction on the word "helvete": in Norwegian (and the other Scandinavian languages), words ending with -ete (or similarly with other consonants and vowels, including double consonants (e.g. -ette) pronounce *both* of the Es. Not the worst mistake ever, but one I commonly see
Hard to tell with people like this, both of them don't seem like the most stable guys. Especially when your essentially playing a character 90% of the time, I think eventually for them both it became hard to differentiate the thoughts of their character from their own thoughts. I lean more towards Varg being the full instigator though, those youtube videos were very telling not to mention him saying "Euronymous kicked him and went for a knife when Varg when to hand the papers" doesnt make a whole lot of sense. According to Varg Euronymous was the one trying to kill him so why would Euronymous be jumpy?
I love how consistent you are! Thank you so much Adrian. I have been watching videos like this for years and some how you almost always find stories I have never heard of. Keep it up! Love you❤️❤️
I remember someone set fire to the old wooden door of our church 20 or so years ago. It was replaced and within a month it was set ablaze again. The priest wasn't fucking around so he had the new door fireproofed and installed cameras. The culprits came back and tried again. The community couldn't figure who would do such a thing as the church was a cornerstone of the community. Everyone was confused when it turned out the black metal group that hung out at the defunct record shop was behind the arson. They also admitted to setting fires at other churches as well. Needless to say, after they were caught, black metal was viewed VERY negatively for years in the area. It doesn't help that, a few years later, a member of that same community murdered his girlfriend.
Catholics are not Christian John 10:10 10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. -Jesus
It’s really kind of amazing how much the production has improved since like 20k subs. It wasn’t exactly rough back then but the amount of work you’ve put into today’s content is really obvious. Great work.
Love your non-3-hour deep dives. I love love love Mr. Ballen, but sometimes his quick pace is hard for my brain to comfortably process. Your voice and accent are soothing and easy to absorb.
As a life long metal head I've heard this story many times but I enjoyed this video. You reached back a little further and shined light on some aspects that are often left out
Thank you Adrian for these videos, you are were the main reason why i got into researching true crime cases and expanding on my understanding of the world and the horible crimes that are unfortunately being commited. Thank you for working hard on getting videos ready for us to watch. This channels future looks very promising
Ty 4 this video, as a metalhead ive heard lots of untrue things about this case and no one believed me when i said there was more 2 it. Love your channellllll😁
Great video! I was 16 in 1993 and remember reading about this in Kerrang! It seemed so scary the way it was sensationalised back then. There’s so much more detail here and seems even scarier lol
Dead Olin’s case always interested me. I was living in Finland when this happened, and the general affect of the youth was not unlike the scene in Norway at the time-only I think Finland’s deep foray into Black Metal evolved a bit after this (at least where I lived it did). I truly feel that Varg is one of those people who don’t take personal responsibility for anything-there will always be some excuse: look at his “reason” for stealing the rifle at 12, for example. He can keep spewing his “personal world views”, but it doesn’t detract from the fact that he stabbed a man in the head, neck, and back over 20 times.
@@narnia139 in reality his mother and father worked for the western secret services in the oil industry to collect information and sabotage dictators, there are obscure voices that say that his parents were married at the command of the services and he was raised in a military style... the cold war he left many scars about which you will not find many details
Adrian is a great host and he covers a very wide variety of true crime stories. This channel is very entertaining and Adrian never fails to bring us all such great content. TYVM for hard work you put in to continually bring us top notch videos!
He knows that but he clearly doesn’t care. That’s leftists for you; they will lie as long as it advances their political agendas. He chose to use it anyway in order to mock Vikernes and to get other brainwashed leftist lemmings to think it was the real Vikernes. This is the mark of a real coward. The first thing I noticed that was unusual about that bizarre footage was the obvious American landscape in the background; Vikernes lives in the French countryside. And for the record, I am no Varg fan in any way. I agree with probably 70% of his politics, but I am an Orthodox Christian and I find his mindless rants about Christian theology laughably inaccurate as well as absurd. Like pretty much all neo-pagans he unknowingly repeats Protestant concepts and more modern-day reformist heresies, and then claims that is what Christianity as a whole is; I have always said that neo-pagans and Protestants, ironically, seem have an awful lot in common in that regard. But that is a different subject altogether. What is equally ironic is that is the exact same thing that this channel did to him when it mocked him by using false footage of someone else and claimed it was Varg. There is no doubt that Vikernes is a rather intelligent fellow, but he is embarrassingly one-dimensional, with the stunted maturity level of a perpetual adolescent. I have actually met and spoken with people who knew him in his youth and some people who interacted with him online and he is an extremely stubborn man. If you even slightly disagree with him on just one thing, he immediately reacts with all-out anger and then blocks you. He is essentially 50 going on 17. Look up his treatment of Tom “Survive the Jive” and Marcus “Golden One”. I’m no fan of neo-paganism, but you couldn’t ask for nicer, more pleasantly even-keeled fellows. Varg carried out a childish attack on Tom and even encouraged his fans to attack the guy on his wedding day - all because he got married in a historic Anglican cathedral. They even went so far as to belittle his wife and make fun of their traditional wedding attire (I guess LARPy costumes and wolf skins would have been more appropriate for Vikernes’ tastes). Again, that is the sheer mark of a coward, not to mention it is also effeminate as all hell. What grown, adult fifty-year-old man does that?
Lord, in the last 3 days a couple rappers got killed; but these days anyone can go on Uribe or "cringe" tictard" and say they are rappers aka Sideshow bobs two bastard twins the "Island Boys"! Two be bonifide rapper you should at least have received like minimum of views or renown to be considered professional. Funny I kept trying to type bonifide spell checker would change it to homicide! The list of murdered rappers would prolly be 6 videos at minimum
Has there ever been a comprehensive in depth video series about all the Rappers who met their demise via the gun? Like the old wedge live by the sword ; die by the sword!
John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. -Jesus
That’s not insane at all. In fact violent crime is extremely common to African Americans. 1/3 African American men are convicted felons of violent crimes. 60 percent of the violent crime and basically 12 percent of the population
I was a fifteen year old hard core metal head when this happened and I remember it vividly. I was too young to understand back then. But watching it now has had quite an effect.
These guys Varg and Euronymousis are disturbing. Even more disturbing is the fact that there are people who produce films featuring the killing of people. A big enough following to warrant a category for that type of film - snuff films. Just creepy and horrible.
Doubtful. I’ve met several of these “metal” types irl. Most of them are just angry nerds that hate their dads, not the type to actually throw hands, yet alone knifes.
A slightly off topic but considering this case from Norway, will you consider covering the case of "Isdal Woman", one on the longest & unsolved cases (in Norway) till date.
Yeah cause that case hasn't been covered enough or anything 🙄 there's plenty of videos about it here on RUclips, and there are podcasts too. So please Adrian, DON'T cover it. It's been done to pieces already
Since this video was about metal artists, Adrian should do other metal cases instead (maybe the murder of Dimebag Darrell). The Isdal Woman has been done to death, even by phenomenal crime channels that no longer exist (Cayleigh Elise, for example).
"If you're a girl who got drunk/If you're a girl with tattoos/..." as a girl with tattoos who sometimes drinks, I will speak on behalf of other girls like me: we're glad you're not interested in us, thank you very much
I've seen the album cover (by accident) a while back. Literally almost made me vomit. I've never seen something so disturbing in my life. At first I thought it had to be fake, and then I read the disturbing story behind the album cover and it pretty much scarred me.
YES! I thank you so much, Adrian, for covering something with the band Mayhem. That band has issues. In the incident where Euronymous took the photo of Dead, made necklaces of his skull, and used it as an album cover, Necrobutcher was SOOO upset, he cussed out and left Mayhem. Strangely, when Euronymous was later murdered by Varg Vikernes, Necrobutcher returned to Mayhem. The sad part of all of this is I liked Mayhem and I LOVED Varg's project Burzum. I don't condone ANYTHING these people have done, past, present, or ever; I just like the music.
I am not into mountains/nature at all, but went to Norway a few years ago, and I feel like its museums are often overlooked. Especially if you're a musician you'll love the museums in Norway.
I'm a huge Black Metal Fan and a CoffeeHouse Crime Fan. This episode hits the spot like a strong black coffee while listening to De Myteriis Dom Sathanas. Superb. P.S. This episode came into my feed just as I finished watching the 3 hour Helvete. It's going to be a long night indeed. I would love an episode done on Dissection and Jon Nodtveidt next please.
This case is so famous in the metal scene, I would say it is iconic. But usually we metalheads are kind hearted people, don't let the grim appearance fool you.
I have never actually met a mean metalhead or a mean punk. I'm not a HUGE fan of metal. I like some. But that's always been more than enough to make friends.
So true. Unfortunately the place where I'm from, the younger (14-18y/o) and newer generation in the scene has turned it around.. particularly the punks. They brought knives to gigs, smashed beer bottles onto people's heads - these people were not even moshing they were chilling by the side - with the reason "this person is a nazi sympathiser" when the poor guy wasn't even part of anything except that he was the organiser's assistant and also a father. These kids moshed while holding on to knives. They also tried to burn the hang out venues of other older punks, sometimes boasting about it on social media.
@@mnz9214 It's so sad to hear. I have been thinking about it for a while, but unfortunately as time goes on it seems that all aspects of reality are getting worse. Maybe it's just me who is getting old and I look badly at the new generations, but these young guys leave me little chance of being wrong in judgment.
Thanks for bringing up a very important detail that very seldomly comes picked up - the five year age difference between Varg and Euronymous. At this age, it is massive and imo contributes a very important patricidal explanation to fatherless Varg’s blind rage.
Euronymous was from the next town over from where im from. This was all before my time however. But its cool to listen about something that happened locally (sort of)
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The only person I really feel sorry for is poor Dead. What the poor kid needed was help and instead he's infamous because of the spectacle made of his death.
nothing poor about him. You need help you seek help. Period
Not the crowd to be around if you need help.
@@nyakiamo476 It was the '60s and the stigma against depression was *heavy* - not to mention the dude almost got killed due to a bully fracturing his spleen and that sent him over the edge (as well as in a pharmacological coma for a while). He was SURE he was already dead but the dude never actually hurt a fly.
im sorry but that guy abused animals and from what ive read, wasn’t a very pleasant person to be around at all. yes he was mentally ill but mental illness isn’t really an excuse for that, he also most likely influenced Euronymous into having that same kind of mentality given that he was described as being a fairly normal person prior to living with Dead
yes....
I always felt so sorry for Dead. I think he's the saddest part of the whole story of Mayhem.
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Yeah, his near-death experience as a kid shaped his whole worldview.
Horrible but it was also horrible of him to let his (what he probably thought was his friend) to walk into that horrific scene. I guess it uno reversed on him and ended up giving this gruesome scene to a psycho.
no for real ... after being in the scene for a while im finally taking the time to learn about this and when he said about the album cover i felt SO disgusted and disturbed. like theres no justifying it. extremely sad what happened to him
I had a couple of guys renting out my basement for years. They were heavy into black metal. I lovingly referred to them as my basement trolls. Best housemates I've ever had. They decided one day that they were going to teach me about black metal (It failed horribly) so it became a running joke in the house that they would just pop into whatever room I was in and yell "Who killed Mayhem??" and I would immediately reply with "Burzum killed Mayhem" because that is the only thing I could remember from that one day.
I miss those guys. Nothing like walking into your kitchen at 9am to find a guy in corpse paint, wearing the usual metal attire but with the addition of a cute flower covered apron doing your dishes lol
An accurate description of most metal heads hahaha, gentlest people ever!
XD I love this
This made my day. 🌸
Thank you for sharing. 🤘
Im same age as them and deep in this culture musically and never had violent friends, actually more respectful and helpful compared to disco or glam rock guys.
I feel bad for Dead, Hellhammer, and Necrobutcher. Sounds like they just wanted to have fun, be different, & make music, even if they were angsty/edgy kids. Poor Dead…he needed real help & suffered in silence. The 80s-90s were a rough time to have mental health struggles.
Necrobutcher is nothing but an attention seeking nobody
I’d argue that the current time is fairly rough to have mental health problems. These kids are being abused by big pharma. 80’s and 90’s they were at least ignored.
necrobutcher admitted he was going to try and kill euronymous
no need to feel bad for hellhammer or necrobutcher
@@norabora624no need to feel bad about any of them except maybe Dead. The others did this shit to themselves but Dead actually was going through shit. I don’t think he was depressed or anything I think he just genuinely felt like he was supposed to be dead
"...Varg argued--he 'Vargued'--that he was acting in self-defense"
these kinds of quiet, under the radar, varguably inappropriate inserts always crack me up, I appreciate them
How’s it inappropriate?
@@charliemike13 some would say making a joke during something so serious could be inappropriate 🤷♀️
I Vagree
@@samanthar1214 yeah-people are way too offended by everything.
I had to rewind the video! I thought it was an accident lol, That was clever
This is the most bizarre murder I've ever heard of. Imagine both being so paranoid and they flinched and tried killing each other. One succeeded.
They lacked the brain cells to not show up to the meeting.
this case is so ignorantly covered in general and rife with incorrect information,and I love coffee house crime but I figured he'd incorrectly cover it as well but i was somewhat pleasantly surprised that he did include some usually uncovered information,but varg did not burn down churches because of Satanism,satanic beliefs had absolutely nothing to do with it,varg felt Christianity blatantly destroyed Norwegian pagan cultures and the original religions of Norway so he burned down the churches because the churches and early Christians desecrated early Norwegian holy sites and burial sites...absolutely nothing to do with Satan and varg was not a Satanist,on top of that I think people should watch re-uploads of vargs channels upload about the early black metal scene and his relationship with euronymous theres alot more to it than what people say,varg is not a fucking neo nazi I think people really ignorantly portray him,he's opinionated as hell and has very old fashioned traditional values but he's not a nazi and euronymous was an absolute piece of garbage and this is not me being a fan boy because I like burzum and mayhem equally they were both incredible bands,but anyone who takes pictures of his dead friends suicide for kicks is a grotesque human being,also to correct one point you made...euronymous didnt make those pictures his album cover,dawn of the black hearts was a Brazilian mayhem bootleg album and people in the scene got ahold of the photographs and used it as the album cover it was directly euronymous himself
Just pure Stupidity...sheesh
Lol
@@samanthacarrington487 nothing funny...
Euronymous knew about Dead's struggle with depression & suicidal thoughts... And encouraged him to do it
Dude was a literal Satanist that worshipped Satan, what were you expecting?
Yeah, to be honest, he was a real arsehole, to be honest. He did a lot to promote Black Metal, but that doesn't make him less of a piece of shit.
This is why I don’t feel bad for his demise
@@dEAthlikEstAtic If someone is having suicidal thoughts you wouldn't encourage them, you absolute psycho. Wtf is wrong with you? You're a terrible person if this is how you'd approach someone with suicidal thoughts.
overcoming adversity is the very reason why we do what we do. and helping eachother overcome eachother's struggle should be the default. fck the defeatist mindset. life can always get better@@dEAthlikEstAtic
The photo of Dead’s body was not used by Euronymous, it was used by someone else to make the bootleg live album “The Dawn of the Black Hearts” and that Bootleg would eventually get an official release with higher quality audio and unreleased live footage dvd under the name “Live In Sarpsborg” with Necrobutcher on the cover. The band has already said that they REALLY hate that photo(s) and Necrobutcher said in an interview that he was planning to kill Euronymous himself because of it.
used or not, he took that photo, and obviously shared it around. How did this random bootlegger get it? This was mostly before internet. Euronymous probably printed it off like he would flyers for shows..
He did want to use the photo btw
@oynlengeymerhe2434 he sent it to penpald ect.
It's true.. I am euronymous
@@oynlengeymer2434Euronymous himself sent it to a Colombian pen pal who released this bootleg in 1995.
The murder in Lillehammer mentioned here was actually committed by Faust who was another member in the scene from the band Emperor. He admitted to it and served time in prison as well for the murder.
Yep you beat me to it 🤣🤣
this video is full of shit surface level crap. vargs channel was great he was not a nazi or white supremacist
More "fun" details about said murder: the man killed was homosexual and it's widely thought that Faust committed the murder as an act of hatred towards him (I believe his side of the story is that the man came onto him and he killed him out of revulsion, but who knows). Second wave black metal was an absolute mess of hatred and bigotry, and some of that seedy underbelly still persists to this day.
Fuuuuneral Fog
Aww you already put it here. Nice one.
If you have any doubts that Euronymous was a jerk, check what his bandmates, Hellhammer and Necrobutcher have to say about his murder. Those are the people who arguably knew his real self best, and both of them don't hold Varg guilty. Says quite a lot.
Varg is still crazy though
If Varg didn't kill him, there were quite a few people who were at their limit with 'Euronymous'.
Necrobutcher has gone on record saying he was planning on killing him himself even 👀
@@PoisonAngelGirl I think it's because euronymous killed Dead. Everyone loved him. Euronymous tortured him psychologically. His attempt at suicide was his doing already, but I am sure he shot him. Who can pull of a shotgun to the face with cut wrists and..neck? After losing all that blood..
Varg saved black metal by killing euronymous, it would’ve never evolved. Dead is still one of the best vocalists in the genre and arseth pushed him to kill himself while already suffering for cotard delusion.
I got the album Deathcrush when it was first released and together with the record was a coupon that said a photo book was initially planned to be included. However, as the photo book was not at the time completed, the coupon could be sent to the band and they would send the book out once it was completed. So I sent the coupon to the address with a letter commenting what I thought of the album. After a while I got a written letter back from Euronymous. This exchange of letters continued for a few more times when it suddenly stopped. I didn't really know what was happening with the band as this was a time before the internet and it wasn't until a number of years later when I finally had internet access that I found out he was killed. In the letters that I received from Euronymous, he actually came across as a nice person and to this day I still have the album, the letters and a photo that he sent me with one of the letters.
Out of curiosity how much of Euronymus personal life did he share in the letters (if at all) or was it largely related to the band or music?
@@alexsutton2271 It was largely about music and I remember him saying that he was starting a record label. Since I live in Hong Kong, he was also interested in knowing if there was a possibility of performing here. I basically wrote back saying it wouldn't be worth it as there wasn't much of a metal scene here back then.
Would you ever share what he said in the letters?
Wow dude! That's pretty wild. I bet you have something working on being priceless. That's really too bad it ended that way for you guys.🤘💔
A nice person, that wants pain and suffering in this world (paraphrasing)... yeshh..
As a Norwegian metal fan, I did not expect this being covered by you but it's very appreciated and super interesting!! Thank you!!
@Hudson Hamman Someone's pressed! It's fine, I'm laughing over ur stupidity🤭🤭
@@MsTinkerbelle87 It’s interesting🤷🏻♂️ just like how literally everyone LOVES true crime stories these days. Those actions being told are illegal too, dude😂😂
@@MsTinkerbelle87 yea but very rarely do anyone dare tackle this because theres a metric fuckton of misinfo. you cant trust varg, you cant trust any of the information 100%. Count Dankula for example refuse to cover any of this due to the heavy dispute in whats fact and fiction.
@Hudson Hamman u can like this music without being a satanist
@@miles6524 Nah. It's satanic stuff. Let's not kid ourselves.
I would have never expected you to go for this case. But you've covered it pretty well for a time frame of just 20 minutes.
I've seen this Story covered dozens of times, some even more extensive and in depth. But never quite this well narrated I must say! Well done, Adrian.
Thank you!
@Hermann[best channel] you have 23 subs botimus prime. Shut up.
@Hermann[best channel] ???
@@CoffeehouseCrime this has been also the most well crafted narration I've seen so far on this story. I remain thoroughly impressed.
@Hermann[best channel] no you don't
"it's never cool to be a douche" - solid advice from Coffeehouse Crime
A douche killed another douch ....
Damn straight
Agreed 💯
Prison in Norway…you mean, Club Med?
Except it’s not true anymore! Almost everyone is a douche in some way or another!
A couple things you got wrong:
The Dawn of the Black Hearts is not only NOT a Mayhem album, but it also came out in '95, 2 years after Euronymous' death. The Dawn of the Black Hearts is a bootleg tape from the colombian scene. Now you might be wondering, how did they get Dead's photo to use as a cover? Euronymous had sent copies (not known if all of the same or different photos) to many of his penpals around the world, one of which in Colombia. That might also mean that despite Euronymous' father having burned Dead's photos after Euronymous death, there might still be more copies of the set out there.
Euronymous didn't open the front door and followed some blood trail. Instead he had climbed through a window because he had no spare key, window which was of Dead's room so he immediately came across the scene.
Varg is heavily suspected of having set fire to Fantoft, yes, but he technically was never proven to have been the perpetrator which is why that burning wasn't accounted in his sentence.
The church burnings also weren't in the name of satanism, but rather as a retaliation to christianity. The satanism part came as a mix of lies of their own for shock purposes and widespread media misinformation.
Ironically you could say that the lie became the truth, because after all that misinformation some copycats started doing the same in name of satanism thinking that's what the movement was all about.
Varg didn't claim he killed a man in Lillehammer, but rather that one of them did which was true.
I'm not sure where you got the "it's yet to be proven" part from, it's easily verifiable that Faust has been sentenced for it and the details of the events are also known.
Varg didn't snatch Euronymous' knife, Euronymous never even got to get one even though he did try.
Varg had a swiss army knife in his boot which was what he used.
This one is a bit of a nitpick, but the guy who stayed at Varg's apartment was simply a friend that was already there when Varg and Blackthorn decided to drive to Oslo. He wasn't a roommate. They supposedly let him stay because he wanted to finish a movie they were watching.
Some of your pronunciations were off, but that I think it's perfectly understandable.
So fucking boring! When people can't even stand for something and keep playing in the shades. That makes everything sound as boring and nerdish as a fucking harry potter book.
😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
There’s always so much misinformation around this band.
Thank you!
Some of his pronunciations are off in English.
I can’t imagine anyone, with or without a ring on her frickin’ thumb, giving anything but a sigh of relief upon finding out that Vikernes was not interested.
He is better than most males in this era, I am a brown woman and just because he did stupid sh... as a youngster and have some colorful views doesn't mean he is not a better man than most WOKE soy males...
Right!?
Lol 😂
No doubt 💯
His wife and children don't seem to care.
Imagine all the broken hearts in Norway because Varg "lost all interest in you".
The thumb ring enthusiast community must have been inconsolable 😭
Say what you will, but he’s an old man and has a harem LOL
@@BikingVikingHH There's a substantial number of women who are into serial killers. So I have no problem believing that the Burzum Nazi would have a harem lol
@@KhukuriGod lol the burzum nazi, Scandinavians are all racist. Be black and go to any of the Scandinavian countries.
@@KhukuriGod you say Nazi like it’s a bad thing 😂
YES YES YESSSSSS I CAN’T BELIEVE YOU’RE COVERING THIS
I’ve been a metal fan for much of my life and this case has disturbed me for a long time. I’ve hoped that my favorite true crime channels would cover it for awhile, but I didn’t think it would happen. Thank you for bringing it to light.
Edit: lol @ Varg acting like he’s such a gift to women that he thinks they’d be devastated if he didn’t like their thumb ring (????). Sir, you burned down ancient churches, stabbed your friend to death, and left him in a stairwell. Women don’t _want_ you to like them.
I also feel so bad for Dead. He needed help so badly, but he met Euronymous instead. I often wonder what he would have gone on to do if he’d gotten the support he needed before it was too late. I’ve seen “that” album cover and it haunts me, even more so knowing that Euronymous delighted in it. Dead didn’t deserve to be defiled like that. Even so, Euronymous didn’t deserve what happened to him either. It’s a terrible case.
btw I've also had roommates who were so obnoxious that they made me want to sleep outside lol
What about Euronymous convincing his band mate Dead to kill himself? The story behind this seems to be that Euronymous thought he was a real satanist and said he wanted to murder varg, so much it got around the entire town.
Using the photos of there band mate after he committed suicide was fucking gross too.
Nobody had to convince Dead to kill himself…
@@rottingravensblood9106 No it’s true💀He turned them into a necklace and also gifted some to friends through letters
Reading about Euronymous made me think "man... maybe he deserved it".
Yeah idk how you can tell the story without pointing any of this info out it's pretty damning...
He took the photos but didn't use them for anything
It's hard to know whether it was plain murder or self defense in the exact moment it happened. But as you said, there's smoke but no fire with Euronymous - and I personally believe Varg killed him before there was any need to defend himself. Euronymous fleed to grab a knife to defend HIMSELF, not the other way around.
Nah, it was murder clear and simple. ¨Count" Varg had and still has a massive superiority complex and he repeatedly demonstrated a tendency towards violence and destructive behavior with his serial church burning. Varg is one of those smug arrogant bastards who's too smart for his own good so he ends up believing his own superiority BS (and acts on it too).
Considering the number of stab wounds on his back and neck, I think you're right.
Varg is the good guy.
I agree, nobody would go to someone's place after hours for contract stuff knowing y'all loathe each other n you've been told he was gonna kill u. He went there to kill him💯
Edit: and he set up an alibi already
Driving hours to meet a guy you're supposedly scared of at early hours of the morning, and then stabbing him twenty something times in the back (and through the skull) is not self defense. He didn't call emergency services either, it was a homicide, how more obvious does it have to get?
Varg's church burning is also said, by the man himself, to be in relation to anti-christianity, as opposed to Satanism. That Christianity had ruined the native religions of pre-Christian norway. Christianity was an occupying force where it didn't belong and must be eradicated. Something like that.
You're kinda spot on. But he changed his story like 50 times, in some of them he didn't even do that.
That's pretty much it. Nothing to do with a devil.
@@janm7163 he's always maintained that he didn't light the fires (which we know is bullshit). But then he gives insight on why the people who did it decided to do it. It's why I can't even hate Varg, he's just so bonkers.
Thats black metal as fuck...
For real
Deciding to straight-up destroy history, rather than occupy and reclaim the church as a pagan temple, signifies smoothbrained subhuman mentality.
I told him this myself but his mouth-breathing groupies jumped on and accused me of being a christian. Lol
"I was my way to kill Euronymous myself"
- Necrobutcher
It was self-defence.
Necrobutcher really liked Euronymus
@@churcharsonistextraordinai5682 it wasn't
@@fvckngslayerr5782 you're funny
@@fvckngslayerr5782yes. Necrobutcher lies about some facts for a reason
One of my “favourite” cases. Varg and Euronymous are/were both idiots. Especially Varg. I grew up with metal heads and they are literally the sweetest people to be around. They’re not like these d-bags.
He is an active neonazi now. I accidentally engaged in a twitter discourse with him. I did not know it was THE metal meme himself at the time. Long story short, he blocked me because I said homophobia isn't cool and he didn't know what friendship meant. But before i was blocked i saw his page and it's bad. Lock him up again I say, black metal has better things to offer than racism, homophobia and straight up arson and murder.
Aa
I totally agree. I tried out quite a few different scenes when I was younger and metal heads were definitely the nicest people I’ve met 🤟
Vargue was a murderer and Euronymous was really the biggest idiot. He single handedly created some of the worst perceptions about black metal including satanism and white supremacy.
Preach. Metalheads fucking rule
Hellhammer didn't give a shit about Dead. It was Necrobutcher who was furious at what Euronymous did and left the band, even claiming to planning on killing him.
"Dead was dead."
"He... Vargued"
Sir. *Sir*. I love you. These tiny bits of levity in a very dark tale make the whole thing so much more tolerable.
As a metalhead who is familiar with this story I didn't expect it to be covered on your channel! It's pretty cool now that I can learn more about it in depth because I never really thought to before.
@XcoloradokyleX Lords of Chaos is dope too. Check it out 🤘🏼
@@lyfe_of_lyndsey I was thinking the same thing, it's a crazy story
@XcoloradokyleX great documentary! Even for non metal-obsessed ppl like myself.
Also, I enjoyed the movie Lord's of Chaos. Especially cuz I found out just before watching it, they chose to cast a Jewish actor to portray white aryan supremacist & "race-mixing" opponent, Varg Virkernes lol. Whether it was intentionally done to offend his beliefs or not, a person who is so offended by the mere existence of so many people / places / things is bound to be triggered quite a bit. But this one was particularly frustrating to him, because that casting decision was made on top of the very anti-varg and pro-euronymus composure of the film.
Fuck yeah me too as soon as I saw varg and the Channel I just had to click on it
Some corrections:
While Euronymous did take the picture of Dead's dead body, he wasn't the one to use it for album art. The picture was sent to a pen pal he had in Brazil and that pen pal used it to release a bootleg live album. The album wasn't even released until two years after Euronymous had died.
Also you mention that Varg found it suspicious that Euronymous wasn't dealing with the contracts in the shop because it was outside of shop hours, but the record store had already closed by then. Euronymous closed the record store a few months before he died.
The pen pal was actually from Colombia
@@surferdude420 Yeah you're right thats my bad
He could have saved us all a lot of time and gone: "I'm not interested in girls."
this is the best comment
🤣
No kidding! He finds any excuse he can to dismiss girls that show interest in him!
A ring on her thumb! I mean! THE AUDACITY! 😂😂😂
As a girl, speaking for all other girls, we're not sad about his lack of interest!
"If u r a girl that has a heartbeat, sorry not interested"," if ur a girl that enjoys breathing, sorry not interested" jeez what a delusional narcissist. Interesting story though, thanx Adrian
If you're a girl with a penis - now we're talking.
That reminds me of the songs Dead Af and Not My Type by MIW
Sounds like those girls had a lucky escape.
Im relieved hes not interested in me 🤣
“If you’re a girl that uses both eyes to look, sorry not interested”
Great episode! Just a note, Dawn of the Black Hearts was actually a bootleg that exploded in popularity. It wasn't actually released by Mayhem or Euronymous
You never mentioned how obsessed dead was with death. He would collect dead birds and huff them before putting them under his bed because he liked the smell of death. He even tried killing cats to do the same thing but he could never catch them. He would also bury his clothes in dirt before a show so he could look more dead.
I was not expecting this specific case but it's cool to see you cover it!
Thank you! I love to cover abstract cases every once in a while!
@@CoffeehouseCrime there is another equally as disturbing, case about the german black metal Band Absurd. It is obscure, but worth checking out as it gets pretty depraved, where they mock the murder victim in one of their songs. There are allegations that one of the murderous teens, had a sexual relationship with the parishioners wife.
Those are people that shouldn't roam around among the general public.
I could not wrap my head around your username! Once I worked it out I was very embarrassed at how easy an cool it is 😅
@@bexxycat2890 don't worry, it's not just you who've told me that my username is tricky! I appreciate that you think it's cool though haha
Why would you not expect it..?
The one thing you mentioned about "Varg killing a man in Lillehammer but it was never proven" actually refers to another murder, by Bård Faust of the band Thorns (Blackthorn's band), who got convicted to a prison sentence for that. Faust actually lived in the Helvete shop for a while and worked there, when all of the early Norwegian BM inner circle stuff was happening.
At the time of the murder Faust was in Emperor
I heard the story but I didn't realise that it happened in Lillehammer where I have visited
I'm pretty sure Faust killed that man for being gay and coming on to him randomly, at least that's what some documentary said which included Faust. Fucking tragic if so, just killing a man because he makes you feel insecure about your masculinity
Exactly, this dude needs to get his story straight, there are actually loads of good documentaries about this case.
he lured him pretending to be gay iirc?
Good evening Adrian, I came to realise that I am never too old to learn. As I am Afrkaans (my partner is English), and although I worked for an organisation that was predominantly English, I didn't know what Euronymous meant until now. He explained it to me. I call him my walking thesaurus. Thank you for one of the best channels on RUclips. Wishing you all the best. Regards from South Africa
1) What you didn't mention about Euronymous discovering Dead's body was that he had to climb through an open window. The doors were locked and there were no other keys in the house.
2) Euronymous didn't deserve to die but it's hard to feel sorry for him. He let his obsessions with image and hatred lead him down a dark path of no return.
3) The part where you said that Varg "vargued" nearly had me dying! 😂
4) The only thing that I'll get Varg credit for is that kept his neo-Nazi views out of his Burzum music.
Varg's real name is KRISTIAN. The Gods themselves knew who and what he really is.
@@HeathenDance did god tell you this?
So from my research varg says most of the things including natzi was BS, he also Denys it so if he is he’s not a proud one lol
But would you feel the same if he was a dirty commie?
@@keuwlcat1319 Are you people that STUPID? Reflect on the guy's life. Vikernes claims to be a neo-pagan (LOL!). OLD NORDIC VALUES! LOL! His entire life is based on benefiting from Christian forgiveness and redemption, and humanitarian european social-democracy. NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS. These are OBJECTIVE FACTS. All the rest, is just typical human bullshit. He is a coward and a parasite who doesn't work, never did - except for recording a few music albums - hiding in a farm, and living at the expenses of the French State and his wife. Like any Christian Priest, he is an hipocrite boring preacher. A total fake, and only imbeciles fail to see the facts.
As a law student, I saw Varg at the High Court here in Paris. (We've had a task to describe a court procedure and by coincidence, he was there sitting just near. And he had this huge bodyguard.). His stare was ice cold. And when he was asked questions, he pretended he didn't even understand anything, and replied to the judge "Varg? Who's Varg. I'm Louis Cachet". He changed his name now and lives with his wife, Marie Cachet. They have a lot of kids.
Well, murderous Black Circle incident aside, It actually was gross over-reach and gestapo like tactics to haul Varg and his family in, the way the french feds did. That said, Varg is undoubtably a sociopath, but this time, he was treated unjustly.
Yuck
Found a tweet of hers which is rather telling on why she married him: "Addressed to young women:
Always keep your hair long Hair is the
reflection of years gone by. It shows a
lot about your health in past years but
also your behavior.
Long hair is a sign of a stable &
faithful personality.
Long hair will attract people who are
suitable for you."
And "lot of kids" - you weren't lying!! That's an army is what it is lol
@@karolineleos , im bald, so I guess I don't have a opinion, lol.
@@anthonylabeau6159 lol
I'm showing my age now, but I remember when all of this was going down. The reputation of the black metal scene in Norway even became somewhat of a meme - to the extent that I remember getting a copy of a magazine about metal and it came with a sticker that said "Don't panic, I'm not a Norwegian satanic terrorist". Both did horrific things, but I have no doubt that Euronymous was murdered in cold blood, not self-defence.
Dead was the same age as my younger brother. My son was just about a year old when he committed suicide. So there's my age!
I agree. I think after the first couple of stabs it stops being self-defence. Varg wanted Euro dead for one reason or another
@@ch0c0furi0us Well Euro did torment their friend into killing himself and was well known for being a twat and gatekeeping the community. Probably had something to do with why it ended up being so savage
John 10:10
10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
Jesus
@@HarshTruth711 Nope. Take your preaching elsewhere. This is not a place or time to be spouting off about your religious beliefs (especially considering the number of people killed in the name of your deity) and if you continue, I'm more than happy to point out the hypocrisy, double standards and immoral bullshit done by Christians in the name of their beliefs.
I really appreciate the none sensationalised coverage of this case from you.
As a member of the Norwegian black metal scene since the early 2000s I can say that anyone I've ever met says that Varg is crazy. He is a talented musician, and Burzum is among the best BM bands I've known. As long as you can separate the art from the person. I listen to the music, but loathe the person behind it.
Most people in the BM are good and level-headed people, and those few people do not represent us as a whole. When I joined the scene in my teens, I did not experience any judgement from people outside of the scene. Many of my friends worked IT jobs at big companies, showing up in Mayhem or Burzum t-shirts without any issue.
I am sure that Varg murdered Eronymous with malice. So many things point to that. He claimed self defense, but common sense debunks that. Not only did he drive from Bergen to Oslo to meet the person he was "afraid of" alone, but he hid his tracks. Also, when acting in self defence you do not run after the person down a stairwell, continuing to stab them instead of running for your life.
It's honestly really frustrating how deeply Varg's influence permeated into the genre too. Black metal, more than any other metal subgenre, has a gigantic problem with Nazis and bigots, to the point where "national socialist black metal" is a subcategory of it that gets brought up a lot. You have projects like Nokturnal Mortem, Absurd, Peste Noire, and of course Varg's own work in Burzum that very explicitly promote hate, and even bands that seem like they would otherwise be safe end up being incredibly sketchy. It's hard to argue that without Varg being such a large presence, we might never have seen a rise in that type of lyrical matter.
And it's doubly sad because black metal can go to a wide variety of different places. I'd even argue the Satanic aspects are some of the least interesting: within the same genre you can find the whimsical shoegaze influence of Alcest, the cosmic meanderings of Blut Aus Nord, and even explicitly leftist groups like Panopticon and Dawn Ray'd that stand in explicit opposition to NSBM.
Yeah really. Getting stabbed a crapload of times in the back is usually NOT a sign that YOU are the aggressor.🙄🤘
@@jamesklingensmith7529 random thought but I didn't even know Alcest was black metal (I don't listen to them but I shot some photos of a performance they had for the venue)
@@jamesklingensmith7529 Not getting to the merit of the person or anything, my only question is, where does Burzum promotes hate? Any specific song?
Vargue was just a student of Euronymous regarding these aspects. Also i really doubt they are pushed in today's black metal though i am not the biggest fan of black metal as a genre but I can't bring to mind a specific band that does it anymore at least a mainstream one.
Point is the white supremacy and Satanism prejudices regarding black metal were created and promoted entirely by Euronymous in the genre. He even wrote a book with his views about it saying he didn't consider any non Satanist to be black metal artist. The notion that these things are general problems of the genre is completely false.
I love the fact that you mentioned the Doomsday vault... that too has a tragic story behind it and the scientists that gave their lives for the seeds to be preserved. Hopefully you can cover it sometime :) Love and support this channel greatly
Wow i didn't know the story was that dark imma check it out Tnx :)
I'm a huge metal fan. I love the music, I love the fact that not everyone gets it. The deaths were huge back in the 90s and scared alot of people.. I feel absolutely dreadful for deads family though, imagine having to see that!
Rap be like, damn 5 murders this week is it Tuesday allready?
\m/
@@deeznutz8320 kangz
@@tonyelgoatferguson809 muh pyramids
@@deeznutz8320that is now. Not 30 years ago.... in Norway. Black people shooting each other isn't news anywhere. Sorry. But it's true.
Dawn of the BlackHearts is a bootleg album, not an actual Mayhem release, and Varg brought his own knife with him that he ended up using in the murder. Other than those, pretty spot-on. Also, the phrase "Vargued" was hilarious. Well done. :)
I find it so heart breaking that The Dawn of The Black Hearts cover still exists.. I can't make sense of how someone could see their friend (or anyone really) in such a state after knowing they were dealing with depression and just think, "Hey! This would make a great album cover!". Takes a special kind of sickness..
Lol I have a tattoo of it XD
@@Fireglo I mean.. whatever floats your goat (satanic or otherwise normal) I guess 🤷♀️ lol
*disgusting*
Dawn of The Black Hearts is a Rip-off album, was sold by a latin American label, not by Euronymous, but he did send them the photo.
Fr
As a Norwegian from Oslo, a fan of black metal and a fan of Coffee House Crime since the beginning, thank you for covering this case, Adrian!
Exciting to see you cover a case from Norway, and I hope to see more Norwegian cases on the channel in the future!
Yes. Video about Bard hopefully
Samme. Lite norske saker på nett på utenlandske true crime sider. Finner for det meste bare Belle Gunness om vi skal strekke litt på utrykket "norske" saker 🤣
@@MaidenViking_ hahah så sant! Det er synd egentlig, det er jo nok å ta av. Baneheia for eksempel, Breivik og Manshaus, Arnfinn Nesset og andre.
Håper Adrian ser kommentaren min og dekker noen flere norske saker i fremtiden.
Og sant, Belle Gunness er litt på grensen av norsk og amerikansk 😅
I truly don't mean as offensive, but I'm so curious as to why/how death metal has become so associated with Scandinavian countries. I get that to survive in years past, hardiness to survive the long cold months was needed, but how has the darkest of music become associated with the safest and most peaceable countries on planet?
I hope my question doesn't sound ignorant-- though I know it must be.
Is it related to other European ideology forced upon other cultures?
What are your thoughts?
@@azurecielo52479 i think you meant black metal. Imo the scene is coming from northern europe, because of a few things: really depressive climate, where you have really long nights and harsh winters. And you have norse mitology, wich was overcome by christianity, and thats why there is anti-christian element
I was a black metal fan in the mid and late 2000s when I was a teen. It's interesting to hear this story from a RUclips video in 2022.
same :D
Well. One thing is the video.
But in the comments here, a lot of people state a lot of things that isnt true/assumptions and guessing.
I also remember this, tho .
I assume you are from Norway,like me .
5:50 Euronymous actually discovered Dead's body after having to climb through Dead's bedroom window because he was locked out of the house
6:55 I know this is horrible to say as a general rule but while i have yet to see what happened to him, the fact that he could do all this to his "friend" and bandmate (including the pathetic joke of getting away with it and giving away necklaces of the poor guys skull) makes me feel zero sympathy for him as an individual and hope he gets his just rewards. That is a truly sick and twisted mind that could do those things and get excited about his friends suicide......
It seems immensely selfish of him. There's many ways to grieve, and Ask a Mortician has talked about the importance of rituals surrounding the corpse to help people grieve, but he didn't seem to care what his dead friend or his living friends wanted done to the body in memoriam, he just did it.
You "hope he gets his just rewards."? Well, 23 stabwounds and death, is that suitable for your taste?
Trauma can cause very strange reactions. But I agree, he was the oldest one in the scene and should have reacted differently if he cared about Per at all.
@@sarcasm-83 kinda mid but better than nothing, should've suffered more
@Huwhite Devil this is fundamentally untrue. Blackthorne of Mayhem is alive (the one who was present at Euronymous' apartment the night of the murder) Ihsahn, Samoth and Faust from Emperor are alive. Atilla, Hellhammer and Necrobutcher (the remaining {contemporary to that time period} members of Mayhem not yet referenced in this post) are all alive, the duo from Darkthrone are both alive (Nocturno Culto and Fenriz) Demonaz and Abbath from Immortal are alive, Satyr and Frost from Satyricon are alive...
This list is just the guys who hung out at Helvete and it's still not even close to all of them, it's just to prove the point that the only two who died are Dead and Euronymous. It's far quicker to list those who are no longer with us than it is all of the Black Metal Inner Circle who are still here. Several did prison time aside from the two murderers (Varg and Faust) but otherwise they've managed to avoid loss of life.
If you've seen the movie "Lord of Chaos" (based on Mayhem and this story), it's crazy how much editorial liberties they took with the movie.
They got a Jew to play varg 🤣 he wasn't happy to say the least
That movie was absolute trash.
That movie was horrible. 80% lies.
@@fantasyboxing71 that must have been s setup for sure hahahahhaha but hilarrious! Heil Varg! Heil Burzum! Heil Mayhem
The movie was planned by a Hollywood studio, and the movie, in fact, was a lie most of the time. It's the Twilight of music movies, in my opinion.
Adrian this was awesome. I knew nothing about metal and the community. Love that you cover ALL KINDS of cases, please keep the unique content coming 🎉
Thank you for making this. As a metal fan, the amount of people who don’t know about the story behind mayhem is shocking and you bringing it to light is awesome.
I don’t usually respond to comments, but what are your thoughts of Lords of Chaos?
Bro where did you get that information from? Everyone knows this shit lmao
@@Toxus8 honestly, I’m a metal fan and I didn’t know about it until very recently. You’d be surprised.
@@lessthanz3r000 You =/ every metal fan bud
@@Toxus8 I am also a metal fan and didn’t know about this case
I literally just brewed up, got back and this popped up just as I sat down. Great timing! ☕ I am familiar with this, this is going to be a good one (not that it's possible to be a bad one on Coffeehouse Crime!)
I love your comment. Nice brew and crime. Enjoy like me! 😁
You might be interested watch “ til the light takes us” doc. It speaks of this and a lot more. Loved it
@@janew3260 I have seen it, I agree it was very interesting (even though I have never been a fan of this genre)
Same here! Sittin back with my vape and my coffee ☕️
Varg claims in the court documents and police reports that Euronymous had physical plans to murder/torture him... who knows what REALLY went down. So many conflicting reports/opinions... been watching your channel for ages now, could not believe my eyes when you uploaded this, trve kvlt channel 😂💀EDIT: P.S. Dead was the real victim here.
Necrobutcher actually had plans to kill Euronymous himself. Clearly there was something off about the guy
He was so young. I wish the kids that beat Dead to near death as a kid would have been properly punished. Makes me so sad.
It's more of the cowardly approach Varg took and the fact he still tries to play the victim to this day....bruh....killing a dude in his own home while he's in his pajamas makes you look like a bitch. And seriously.....you served your sentence and the Case is closed....nut up and just admit you killed the guy because he pissed you off. Doesn't matter what kind of threats he made, you became the coward when you attacked him in a vulnerable state so he couldn't win. Thats something predators do when they hunt for their next meal.
i mean from what has come out euonymus told multiple people that he was going to kill him and even asked for help doing it. so i mean... Varg was like fuck that .
Varg is questionable interms of honesty...BUT I think he is telling the truth here. From what I have read and heard about Euronymous over the years, it fits with how that guy seemed to be.
The stories yet tragic and horrifying are so very interesting and I am addicted to watching them. Please continue to make more. I’m a huge fan.💛💛💛
My guy how are you gonna drop 'Vargued' on us like that and not act like that's funny as all heck. Your professionalism and humor are awe inspiring
This case has always interested me because everyone involved is a complete disaster mentally and morally in one way or another.
everyone wanted to merk Euronymous
@@neosis8476 *merc* and yes, you're right.
Nah, Varg is cool.
Um... Fenriz?
@@Drexus76 Except for, you know, his ISIS-tier church burning and idea that we should abandon our technological birthright to live in huts and be conquered.
Other than that, cool enough I suppose.
Alright so as someone who has spent way too much time fixated on the early norwegian black metal scene, let me give a few quick corrections.
1: The idea that Mayhem used a picture of Dead's body as an album cover is a common misconception. That album, Dawn of the Black Hearts, was actually a bootleg live album, not an official release. The fact that the picture made it onto that album is still a mark against Euronymous though, as it goes to show just how much he was passing those pictures around.
2: Varg wasn't a Satanist, and didn't burn down those churches for Satan. Varg's is an Odinist neo-nazi, as later mentioned in the video, and the church burnings were according to him revenge for the Christianization of Norway.
3: We don't actually know what happened in that apartment, or who started the fight. That's all Varg's testimony, and Varg is a notoriously unreliable narrator who was trying to spin the killing as self-defense. That does get touched on later in the video, but the framing of the actual section on the murder felt a bit off. Also, the knife that was used wasn't one from Euronymous' apartment. It was Varg's pocket knife, which he pulled out and attacked Euronymous with, as Euronymous was supposedly running to the kitchen.
I came here just to comment this.
yup, he is not satanist, he even against them
Odinist lmao
Hitler wouldn’t take these clowns in.
He mentioned all of this stuff by the end of the video.... did you not finish it?
A true pioneer of the brutally beautiful art that is Black Metal. It’s the dedication to the craft, to the *LIFE* of Black Metal & his musical prowess; THAT’S what he’ should be remembered for… it’s a shame Dead & Euronymous took it too far, Dead, if alive today, would be the best Metal vocalist around. & Varg? Varg, though a brilliant songwriter/ musician himself (Burzum *was* amazing- before it just became synth-goth),killing him was a truly a power move in an idiotic attempt to “take the crown” from Euronymous… Black Metal is not easily understood & not for everyone - but those who do understand it see it for the true art it is- it’s about the music, the imagery & the atmosphere - not about “worshipping Satan”!
I appreciate that he made it clear that this is not a true representation of the entire black metal community.
It basically is
@@oisac3223 Nah
@@oisac3223 No it is not, clearly you don't know anything about it.
@@KevinT2553 you clearly don’t know anything about a joke “Kevin666” such a trve kvlt username 🤓🤓
@@GraveyardKing just say you’re a poser….. if you’re not burning churches and stabbing your friends you’re not kvlt bro sorry
For those that want a deeper dive into this, I would recommend the film Until The Light Takes Us which details the black metal scene in Norway including the Euronymous case.
Where can we watch this?
@@simoneward4217 it's available on yt
Not the one with Gaahl..? Because that's insane. 😝
So did the light take them in the end?
@MARQUIS de QUEENSBURY 5.0 Possibly. I will re visit.
I wasn't expecting you to cover Mayhem story but it's so well presented with all the additional info and explanation that I don't think anyone else could do it better.
Black metal is an interesting genre, there's a lot to it but not in a crime way.
You're a legend Adrian, keep up the good work!
Burzum is actually the first music my son heard about half an hour after he was born. He's 2.5 and still loves the band as well as Rotting Christ.
Weird flex but ok
@@esotericempyre4572not a flex at all, just a fact.
Per Ohlin's backstory was so sad. He really wanted to be dead.
The guy was a sick piece of shit who tortured and killed animals.
It is wrong to ambush and slice up your bandmates. These goofs were deranged and dangerous. Interesting story.
I generally agree with this comment
I can't argue with this logic. No slicing or ambushing.
It’s kinda like the East Coast West Coast gangster rap stuff they start believing their own lyrics and then bad shit happened
Love seeing this story covered. Mayhem as a whole, and just Black Metal in general is a really interesting subgenre
Okay 3
was....
Eh…
Yeah filled with white supremacists even outside of the NSBM genre
Not at all but ok
For my fellow Norwegians, or anyone else with access to NRK's streaming service, I highly recommend the four part documentary series they published two years ago. It dives even deeper into the beginnings of Mayhem and the Norwegian black metal scene, the events leading up to the murder, and the aftermath going into today.
Slight pronounciation correction on the word "helvete": in Norwegian (and the other Scandinavian languages), words ending with -ete (or similarly with other consonants and vowels, including double consonants (e.g. -ette) pronounce *both* of the Es. Not the worst mistake ever, but one I commonly see
entire thing is on youtube already
@@Norwegiannnwhat’s it called?
hva heter dokumentaren?
Hard to tell with people like this, both of them don't seem like the most stable guys. Especially when your essentially playing a character 90% of the time, I think eventually for them both it became hard to differentiate the thoughts of their character from their own thoughts.
I lean more towards Varg being the full instigator though, those youtube videos were very telling not to mention him saying "Euronymous kicked him and went for a knife when Varg when to hand the papers" doesnt make a whole lot of sense. According to Varg Euronymous was the one trying to kill him so why would Euronymous be jumpy?
I love how consistent you are! Thank you so much Adrian. I have been watching videos like this for years and some how you almost always find stories I have never heard of. Keep it up! Love you❤️❤️
I remember someone set fire to the old wooden door of our church 20 or so years ago. It was replaced and within a month it was set ablaze again. The priest wasn't fucking around so he had the new door fireproofed and installed cameras. The culprits came back and tried again.
The community couldn't figure who would do such a thing as the church was a cornerstone of the community. Everyone was confused when it turned out the black metal group that hung out at the defunct record shop was behind the arson. They also admitted to setting fires at other churches as well. Needless to say, after they were caught, black metal was viewed VERY negatively for years in the area. It doesn't help that, a few years later, a member of that same community murdered his girlfriend.
Catholics are not Christian
John 10:10
10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
-Jesus
@@HarshTruth711 No one cares, go back to your little cult playhouse, buddy.
I been watching yr cases for 4 years Adrian and still can't stand how crazy humanity is.
It’s really kind of amazing how much the production has improved since like 20k subs. It wasn’t exactly rough back then but the amount of work you’ve put into today’s content is really obvious. Great work.
This case is pretty well known here in Scandinavia, thank you for covering a case from my part of the world.
You look like the brother of necrobutcher
Love your non-3-hour deep dives. I love love love Mr. Ballen, but sometimes his quick pace is hard for my brain to comfortably process. Your voice and accent are soothing and easy to absorb.
Thiiiiis
Ballen is overrated. People think that they have to like him for some reason.
@@thekidcomn5938 Nah, Ballen is the best story teller.
@@hraesvelgML ❤Hell Yes, I absolutely love his little bows in the beginning of every video.
@@lilbitchbaby , triggered!!
The fact that they are playing together on the Mayhem album, Varg bass and Euronymous guitar, is in itself a piece of tragic and beautiful art.
As a life long metal head I've heard this story many times but I enjoyed this video. You reached back a little further and shined light on some aspects that are often left out
Have you done or thought about doing the one on Sophie Lancaster? The girl who was attacked just for being goth?
Thank you Adrian for these videos, you are were the main reason why i got into researching true crime cases and expanding on my understanding of the world and the horible crimes that are unfortunately being commited. Thank you for working hard on getting videos ready for us to watch. This channels future looks very promising
Ty 4 this video, as a metalhead ive heard lots of untrue things about this case and no one believed me when i said there was more 2 it. Love your channellllll😁
Great video! I was 16 in 1993 and remember reading about this in Kerrang! It seemed so scary the way it was sensationalised back then. There’s so much more detail here and seems even scarier lol
I was literally born in '93, haha! I've heard of this case before, and haven't come across videos or podcasts talking about it.
Dead Olin’s case always interested me. I was living in Finland when this happened, and the general affect of the youth was not unlike the scene in Norway at the time-only I think Finland’s deep foray into Black Metal evolved a bit after this (at least where I lived it did). I truly feel that Varg is one of those people who don’t take personal responsibility for anything-there will always be some excuse: look at his “reason” for stealing the rifle at 12, for example. He can keep spewing his “personal world views”, but it doesn’t detract from the fact that he stabbed a man in the head, neck, and back over 20 times.
If you know the stories about his mum, it starts to make sense
well put.
@@whateverisavailabley would you care to elaborate? I ve been researching this story since the early 2000s but never came upon any info on that..
@@narnia139 she was arrested for having explosives
@@narnia139 in reality his mother and father worked for the western secret services in the oil industry to collect information and sabotage dictators, there are obscure voices that say that his parents were married at the command of the services and he was raised in a military style... the cold war he left many scars about which you will not find many details
Adrian is a great host and he covers a very wide variety of true crime stories. This channel is very entertaining and Adrian never fails to bring us all such great content. TYVM for hard work you put in to continually bring us top notch videos!
The footage you included of Varg riding that Pink moped isn't varg at all. That's the old dude from the Iraqveteran8888 gun review channel.
He knows that but he clearly doesn’t care. That’s leftists for you; they will lie as long as it advances their political agendas. He chose to use it anyway in order to mock Vikernes and to get other brainwashed leftist lemmings to think it was the real Vikernes. This is the mark of a real coward.
The first thing I noticed that was unusual about that bizarre footage was the obvious American landscape in the background; Vikernes lives in the French countryside. And for the record, I am no Varg fan in any way. I agree with probably 70% of his politics, but I am an Orthodox Christian and I find his mindless rants about Christian theology laughably inaccurate as well as absurd. Like pretty much all neo-pagans he unknowingly repeats Protestant concepts and more modern-day reformist heresies, and then claims that is what Christianity as a whole is; I have always said that neo-pagans and Protestants, ironically, seem have an awful lot in common in that regard. But that is a different subject altogether. What is equally ironic is that is the exact same thing that this channel did to him when it mocked him by using false footage of someone else and claimed it was Varg.
There is no doubt that Vikernes is a rather intelligent fellow, but he is embarrassingly one-dimensional, with the stunted maturity level of a perpetual adolescent. I have actually met and spoken with people who knew him in his youth and some people who interacted with him online and he is an extremely stubborn man. If you even slightly disagree with him on just one thing, he immediately reacts with all-out anger and then blocks you.
He is essentially 50 going on 17. Look up his treatment of Tom “Survive the Jive” and Marcus “Golden One”. I’m no fan of neo-paganism, but you couldn’t ask for nicer, more pleasantly even-keeled fellows. Varg carried out a childish attack on Tom and even encouraged his fans to attack the guy on his wedding day - all because he got married in a historic Anglican cathedral. They even went so far as to belittle his wife and make fun of their traditional wedding attire (I guess LARPy costumes and wolf skins would have been more appropriate for Vikernes’ tastes). Again, that is the sheer mark of a coward, not to mention it is also effeminate as all hell. What grown, adult fifty-year-old man does that?
Yeah, that definitely isn't Varg, and you are right - the video is on the Iraqveteran8888 channel.
Holy crap. Great detective work!
It’s insane how many times I’ve listened to this case in the last 12 hours alone. Love you coffee house crime!😊
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It's insane to think of how many in the rap industry have been killed going back decades as we glimpse into this metal band with this crazy murder.
Lord, in the last 3 days a couple rappers got killed; but these days anyone can go on Uribe or "cringe" tictard" and say they are rappers aka Sideshow bobs two bastard twins the "Island Boys"! Two be bonifide rapper you should at least have received like minimum of views or renown to be considered professional. Funny I kept trying to type bonifide spell checker would change it to homicide! The list of murdered rappers would prolly be 6 videos at minimum
Has there ever been a comprehensive in depth video series about all the Rappers who met their demise via the gun? Like the old wedge live by the sword ; die by the sword!
John 10:10
The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
-Jesus
That’s not insane at all.
In fact violent crime is extremely common to African Americans. 1/3 African American men are convicted felons of violent crimes.
60 percent of the violent crime and basically 12 percent of the population
@@juradoignamorte9121no one cares about dead rappers
One of my favorite true crime stories, but “vargued” actually made me laugh out loud!
agreed.
Yes I thought I was the only one who caught that 🤣
I was a fifteen year old hard core metal head when this happened and I remember it vividly. I was too young to understand back then. But watching it now has had quite an effect.
These guys Varg and Euronymousis are disturbing. Even more disturbing is the fact that there are people who produce films featuring the killing of people. A big enough following to warrant a category for that type of film - snuff films. Just creepy and horrible.
I believe they both went into this meeting knowing it would be the final showdown, that only 1 was walking out of that apartment alive.
Would’ve probably been better if they killed each other. Just my opinion though 🤷♂️
Doubtful. I’ve met several of these “metal” types irl. Most of them are just angry nerds that hate their dads, not the type to actually throw hands, yet alone knifes.
@@davemccage7918 nice opinion pedo, take it to someone who cares
Varg was a brown belt in BJJ and had 11 ameteur boxing fights winning 9 of them. He knew how to throw hands @@davemccage7918
A slightly off topic but considering this case from Norway, will you consider covering the case of "Isdal Woman", one on the longest & unsolved cases (in Norway) till date.
Yeah cause that case hasn't been covered enough or anything 🙄 there's plenty of videos about it here on RUclips, and there are podcasts too. So please Adrian, DON'T cover it. It's been done to pieces already
@@user-mm4dk3kq4r Which is the best video on it please?
Since this video was about metal artists, Adrian should do other metal cases instead (maybe the murder of Dimebag Darrell). The Isdal Woman has been done to death, even by phenomenal crime channels that no longer exist (Cayleigh Elise, for example).
@@user-mm4dk3kq4r As if the death of Euronymous hasn't been covered alot?
@@vergil8833 I've never heard of it before and I both watch and listen to true crime all the time
Thank you for covering this. This is amazing.
Oh boy. A case I'm rather familiar with having been a listener of both Mayhem and Burzum during my early 20s.
"If you're a girl who got drunk/If you're a girl with tattoos/..." as a girl with tattoos who sometimes drinks, I will speak on behalf of other girls like me: we're glad you're not interested in us, thank you very much
pat yourself on the back no one else will
Same. That dude was just a whole bushel of 'NOPE'
Amen to that!!
As a girl that doesn't have tattoos I may get one just to be on the safe side
As a tattooed slutty sailor criminal who wears thumb rings ...
What a shame to lose those beautiful ancient churches. After he photographed his dead friend, I can't say Eironymous was just playing.
Some of the churches were beautiful Norwegian architectural history that can never be replaced.
@@cns6 that’s horrible
@@cns6 you don't have to be christian to mourn the loss of beautiful architecture.
@@cns6 don't cut yourself on that edge.
@@cns6 teen edgelord detected LAMO your parents give you too much screen time
I've seen the album cover (by accident) a while back. Literally almost made me vomit. I've never seen something so disturbing in my life. At first I thought it had to be fake, and then I read the disturbing story behind the album cover and it pretty much scarred me.
Its not that bad
It's quite tame for shotgun suicides. I guess the context behind why it exists is what really makes it bad. It's still pretty tame though.
They censor cannibal corpse, but that mayhem one, that's fine
What an incredibly weird story! Thanks for another great video Adrian!
YES! I thank you so much, Adrian, for covering something with the band Mayhem. That band has issues. In the incident where Euronymous took the photo of Dead, made necklaces of his skull, and used it as an album cover, Necrobutcher was SOOO upset, he cussed out and left Mayhem. Strangely, when Euronymous was later murdered by Varg Vikernes, Necrobutcher returned to Mayhem.
The sad part of all of this is I liked Mayhem and I LOVED Varg's project Burzum. I don't condone ANYTHING these people have done, past, present, or ever; I just like the music.
He didn't use it as an album cover.
@@megas13proto I think he did It was the original cover of "Dawn of the Black Heart" album
@@megas13proto It was a lesser known live album called "The Dawn of the Black Hearts". It still exists now, but under a different name
@@DukeHulud yeah it was lesser known because it was a bootleg. And it's not under a different name it's still the same name lol.
@@megas13proto still exists and is still the reason Necrobutcher left the band at the time
I am not into mountains/nature at all, but went to Norway a few years ago, and I feel like its museums are often overlooked. Especially if you're a musician you'll love the museums in Norway.
I'm a huge Black Metal Fan and a CoffeeHouse Crime Fan. This episode hits the spot like a strong black coffee while listening to De Myteriis Dom Sathanas. Superb. P.S. This episode came into my feed just as I finished watching the 3 hour Helvete. It's going to be a long night indeed. I would love an episode done on Dissection and Jon Nodtveidt next please.
Vinyl or cassette? Streaming is shit.
Omg I wasn't expecting you to be covering this case! I've been reading about it for a long time so thank you for covering this!
This case is so famous in the metal scene, I would say it is iconic. But usually we metalheads are kind hearted people, don't let the grim appearance fool you.
I have never actually met a mean metalhead or a mean punk. I'm not a HUGE fan of metal. I like some. But that's always been more than enough to make friends.
You are so beautiful 😍😍👍😉
I love you ❤️
So true. Unfortunately the place where I'm from, the younger (14-18y/o) and newer generation in the scene has turned it around.. particularly the punks. They brought knives to gigs, smashed beer bottles onto people's heads - these people were not even moshing they were chilling by the side - with the reason "this person is a nazi sympathiser" when the poor guy wasn't even part of anything except that he was the organiser's assistant and also a father. These kids moshed while holding on to knives. They also tried to burn the hang out venues of other older punks, sometimes boasting about it on social media.
@@mnz9214 It's so sad to hear. I have been thinking about it for a while, but unfortunately as time goes on it seems that all aspects of reality are getting worse. Maybe it's just me who is getting old and I look badly at the new generations, but these young guys leave me little chance of being wrong in judgment.
Thanks for bringing up a very important detail that very seldomly comes picked up - the five year age difference between Varg and Euronymous. At this age, it is massive and imo contributes a very important patricidal explanation to fatherless Varg’s blind rage.
Euronymous was from the next town over from where im from. This was all before my time however. But its cool to listen about something that happened locally (sort of)