The biggest issue with cyborg being a founding member of the Justice League is it removes his personality. Part of the main thing about cyborg is that he has a lot of personality and he's supposed to really love life and be loud. Anytime he's a Justice League member he's usually just dark and brooding just like everyone else.
I love Cyborg because he’s such a great big brother character. If he’s a founding member of the Justice League he’s straying away from that. I agree. He can be a great Justice League-er but he’s not a founder. He needs to forge his own path first.
Making him the last human standing and having him decide to leave the planet or die with it could be an amazing Elseworld story. Maybe you could work with the feeling of nostalgia while he literally "replays" his memories as flashbacks, and come into the decision to not die with the planet, but to maintain it and let life flourish again on his watch, now not struggling to know if he's man or machine, but knowing he's a god (Deus Ex Machina) who chooses to be human still. He definitely could do it, since he merged with Technis (a planet-size technological hivemind), and you could even fit in your Plastic-Planet idea you had in the Plastic Man video Also, his tech could start as being made by Silas, and during his time with the Titans it keeps evolving, until there's a New Gods centered crisis where he ends up merging with a Mother Box. Then, his powers could skyrocket enough for him to go to the League, until he decides to come back to the Titans as the mentor figure he was during the Geoff Johns' run
I don't like the mother box origin, it turns his more tech based powers into essentially magic and it really doesn't add anything to his character besides making him more powerful or tying him into the Darkseid, the latter only really being important when he's a Justice League member. I think a better idea would be to have him constantly upgrading himself, he starts with the bio-prosthetics that cause him to struggle with the loss of his humanity and after his time with the Titans is able to accept what has happened to him and try to improve upon his cybernetic body which can eventually lead into him incorporating a Mother Box into his cybernetics when he joins the Justice League with some of his friends.
I really didn't enjoy his design in Justice League as much. I've always liked the more robotic look. In the movie he looks more like an alien. I had the same problem with Iron Man's nanotech suit, it sort of undermines the segmentation and plate look of his armor.
I love Cyborg being a co-member of both the Justice League and the Teen Titans someone as someone who adds a lot of youth to the Justice League which is mostly adults while still being a big member of the Titans when need be
One hot take I have is that Cyborg’s only good design is his Teen Titans ‘03 design, at least in outside media from the comics (The Comics definitely have a design issue with him imo, but I haven’t seen every single Cyborg design). I think all that Blue just makes him pop out and stand out more, rather than just being half gray and slight blots of red circles. The clearer design of the Blue transparent “glass” conveys that he is broken, more than him just being “covered” by the metal. So many of his designs also make him too lean, when he should be a buffer looking character, no pun intended. He was a Quarterback and should already be a beefy dude.
I think Cyborg joining the JL is fine, but the way DC did it was not. I think there should be a comic where he actually is asked to join by the Trinity, instead of just being there from the start like what the New52 did. People have no problem with Wally West or Roy Harper joining the League and they’re FOUNDING MEMBERS of the Titans. Cyborg shouldn’t just be limited to the Titans either.
I don't think most people have a problem with Cyborg as a member of the Justice League, they just have a problem with him being a founding member of the League as it basically removed all of his history with the Titans. The New 52 just did the Teen Titans so dirty in general, this is just one of the many problems.
Awesome video, please keep up the great work! And speaking of Cyborgs, maybe u could talk about Cyborg Superman, or another Superman villain, like Doomsday.
I'll be honest, Cyborg is cool, I do like him, but he is by no means my favorite. I would actually like for them to kill off Cyborg permanently to give drama and actual consequences in the world of DC, and it would actually be a great loss for everyone, not only from losing a friend, but also from losing a valuable asset because Cyborg does a lot, he hacks in everything, even Apokolips and New Genesis technology and Motherboxes, he makes Boom Tubes, he creates and analyzes a bunch of things like suits and contingency plans and gadgets for other heroes and villains, and other things, so Cyborg is very powerful and important and useful and versatile that would make losing him a great pushback for the heroes, at least for a while because with characters like Raven who can make portals and do crazy things like that. Imagine this plot: In Beast World it established that Cyborg is missing half of his brain, so the build upon that where a villain infects Cyborg with Motherbox or Fatherbox or something like that which will progress his technological transformation to where he is fully a machine or most of his brain is converted to where he doesn't have any emotion anymore and he then progresses his conversion. Then he will be a fully robotic being and it will be a story where "The man died, and only the machine is left." So it is a thing where he dies, but not really, because he is still physically there, but Victor Stone is completely gone, replaced with the machines and all of that. The the machine goes on those A.I. eradication of life where the machine that used to be Cyborg thinks about life and things like that and he comes to the conclusion that every creator make their creations perfect and better than them, so God created mankind, so mankind is better than God, and mankind created robots and things like him, and so he is better than mankind and therefore better than God, just that kind of way of thinking. And he believes that he should irradiated all life. Then this machine captures and uses City Boy and his powers to set up a bunch factories everywhere around the world, hundreds of them and more and more constantly being developed with City Boy's powers and the factories make robots for a robot army that he develops, and he not only had those factories, but he also has underground factories and even if a factory or a number of factories get taken out he can just rebuild it instantly with City Boy's powers so that it isbjust like nothing happened and, again, there are more factories always being made. As for the robots that he builds, they are not dead weight or fodder, this machine actually hacks into all of the important things like the Batcave, the federal governments around the world, especially with Waller's servers and places like that, and the bases and operating places of the heroes like Titans Tower and the WatchTower and other places like that and Lex Corp and S.T.A.R. Labs, and the machine just gets a ton of information from those things, data on the heroes and villains, and everyone's strengths and weaknesses, contingency plans on how to defeat them, locations of things, data on weapons and other things, just a whole bunch of data on everything and everyone, and it uses this data to aquire resources like Nth Metal and other things to create the robots, because with all of that data he inputs this stuff into the robots where the robots are not just robots that Superman can casually go through, they are specifically designed to take on everyone with built in contingencies and weakness of the heroes and villains, like sonics, emitting red sun Nth Metal incorporated into their designs to be anti-magic and the ability to travel places like underwater and in space and other dimensions and universes and incorporating lex suits in there and things like that. Then you have the machine analyzing and taking and countering lantern rings and the time travel sphere from the Legion of Super Heroes, and the Phanthom Zone Projector, where he and his army can time travel and come in and out of the Phanthom Zone if anyone sends them there and he goes around time and space to other universes and doing crazy things like that irradicating other universes and taking resources and bolstering his forces with other advanced and dangerous technology and things like that. So it is not only a threat to Earth, it is a threat to all of existence where he is attaching other planets and other universes and other realms and just everywhere even Apokolips and New Genesis and it is on some X-Men Days of Future's Past type of stuff where the heroes and villains and people are all being overwhelmed and defeated by this machine and it's forces and it is just some end times thing. Even if the heroes win they loose Cyborg, Cyborg would be gone for all intensive purposes because he was replaced with the machine from converting him and taking him over, and so they lose Cyborg and an asset because he can't make Boom Tubes and hack and analyze things anymore so they loose a very value asset and that would really affect the heroes. Tell me what you all think.
Yeah i think honestly the only problem i have here is that cyborgs whole death seems to silent and doesn't seem like its impactful enough for such a major member of the TT. I feel like if you want a good death for anyone that big is to make it feel major or like a big event and then have someone like lex or darksied use his body in order to create something and then have the bits of his spirit take over bits of his new robotic form creating grid
Were you writer for DC during the mid to late 2000s? Because this is really starting to sound like that. (DC had a tendency to just do horrible things to their characters in that time period for the sake of drama or to kill of characters and literally no one liked it) Jokes aside, I think just killing characters for the sake of drama or just to have characters die is just lazy writing. But if you're going to kill off characters, can it not be a Titan? I swear, whenever DC needs a character to die they always look at the Titans, give these a break, geez.
@@abiodunsulaiman2297 If I remember correctly, Doom Patrol was supposed to take place in the same universe as Titans, so Beast Boy not being included in the show was because, at the same time, he was a member of the Titans. After it became its own separate universe, I guess they decided since there was already a Beast Boy on one live action DC Universe show they didn't want to cast another Beast Boy for Doom Patrol as I imagine they'd have to do as I doubt Beast Boy's actor in titans likely wouldn't be able to do both shows at the same exact time. I guess they still wanted a popular Titans character in the Doom Patrol so they picked Cyborg who, while I probably wouldn't have put him on that team, still fits very well. The Doom Patrol is a team of misfits whose powers or physical appearances cause them to be alienated by the rest of the world. Overtime, the team becomes a family and starts to accept themselves for who they are and not what they were or what they perceive as normal. That is basically Cyborg's story, someone who lost his humanity after an accident that leads to him being alienated by society only to be accepted by a group featuring other misfits who become a close family as Cyborg learns to accept himself for who he is now instead of dwelling on the past. He fits flawlessly.
damn this is actually such a great comparison. as an avid Wendigoon watcher, i completely agree with this statement ☝️ TMM giving the comic community what they need, one video at a time
Thank you so much! Its a huge compliment to be compared to someone like that and I really do appreciate it. Hopefully one day I can grow to his numbers and keep this community as a great place to be!
You brought up an excellent point about the Titans members having a serious lack of identifiable arch nemesis. Have you considered doing a video where you re-appropriate some lesser used/lesser known DC villains for the various members of the Titans, like your Marvel/DC villain swap videos?
I like him as a Titan and maybe he should get his own side gig, where he can help from a distance and possibly come to the aid of the Justice League when a global threat appears.
To me, his 2003 design is the definition Cyborg. The white, sliver, blue and black go so well together. Even his personality and attitude were a good balance of energetic, outgoing, humor, seriousness, compassion and intelligence.
can you make a video about who would you include in your own personal DC team? wether it'd be a Justice League team like the JSA, Justice League International or your own original team. for me my dream team would Include Tim Drake, Beast Boy, Impulse, Hawk-girl (Kendra Saunders), Animal-Man, Black Canary, Ice, Elongated-Man, Jessica Cruz and Blue Beetle.
You forgot about my comments on your community tab….oh well ya snooze ya lose I guess!! Anyhow in my unpopular opinion, Cyborg can have Platinum from the Metal Men, as his love interest, even if it’s a one time thing, but I think it sounds like a good idea!!
Cyborg should be and stay were they finally put him back with The Titans not the Justice League or Teen Titans but The Titans with characters like Nightwing, Starfire, Raven, Beast Boy, Donna Troy and The Flash (Wally West). He belongs with this generation of heroes who have fully come into their own but not quite figured out their full potential.
@@gangofheroes I mean, even in-universe, these characters have been heroes for at least a decade and a half, they definitely have reached their full potential by this point, I mean Dick having been Batman and Wally being the Flash is still DC Canon, and if they have reached their potential, truly the others in their generation should've as well
If you watched Captain America civil war or read the civil war comics which justice league or/and teen titans members would be on iron man side or captain America side?
Most characters would likely be on Cap's side. A large amount of them have secret identities and know the dangers of that information getting out, but also Ironman recruits villains and that would instantly turn off any hero that might have agreed with him
The first version of cyborg is stuck with the way he looks but mother box cyborg (the goat) could actually make himself look completely human if he really thought about it with nano tech or holograms, zack snyder probably knows that and probably would have done that at the in of the 5 movie are. Mother box cyborg made me like the character cuz he's why more than a handicapped cry baby with a few gun, now if writing stretch there imagination & stop being lazy, he's basically a mechanical green lantern. Btw i hate him as loud mouth mr catch phrase on teen titans back then it made me mentally throw him in the trash till 2011.
The biggest issue with cyborg being a founding member of the Justice League is it removes his personality. Part of the main thing about cyborg is that he has a lot of personality and he's supposed to really love life and be loud. Anytime he's a Justice League member he's usually just dark and brooding just like everyone else.
I know its like they they wanted to make him different from his titans variant but ended up making him just so much worse
I love Cyborg because he’s such a great big brother character. If he’s a founding member of the Justice League he’s straying away from that.
I agree. He can be a great Justice League-er but he’s not a founder. He needs to forge his own path first.
Making him the last human standing and having him decide to leave the planet or die with it could be an amazing Elseworld story. Maybe you could work with the feeling of nostalgia while he literally "replays" his memories as flashbacks, and come into the decision to not die with the planet, but to maintain it and let life flourish again on his watch, now not struggling to know if he's man or machine, but knowing he's a god (Deus Ex Machina) who chooses to be human still. He definitely could do it, since he merged with Technis (a planet-size technological hivemind), and you could even fit in your Plastic-Planet idea you had in the Plastic Man video
Also, his tech could start as being made by Silas, and during his time with the Titans it keeps evolving, until there's a New Gods centered crisis where he ends up merging with a Mother Box. Then, his powers could skyrocket enough for him to go to the League, until he decides to come back to the Titans as the mentor figure he was during the Geoff Johns' run
YES to everything you just said. I literally thought about this months ago.
I don't like the mother box origin, it turns his more tech based powers into essentially magic and it really doesn't add anything to his character besides making him more powerful or tying him into the Darkseid, the latter only really being important when he's a Justice League member. I think a better idea would be to have him constantly upgrading himself, he starts with the bio-prosthetics that cause him to struggle with the loss of his humanity and after his time with the Titans is able to accept what has happened to him and try to improve upon his cybernetic body which can eventually lead into him incorporating a Mother Box into his cybernetics when he joins the Justice League with some of his friends.
I agree. When he's got mother box stuff he's so insanely op and almost alien. I think his origin should be 100% earth based tech
I really didn't enjoy his design in Justice League as much. I've always liked the more robotic look. In the movie he looks more like an alien. I had the same problem with Iron Man's nanotech suit, it sort of undermines the segmentation and plate look of his armor.
Nailed it
Same, marvel would have made it more grounded
I love Cyborg being a co-member of both the Justice League and the Teen Titans someone as someone who adds a lot of youth to the Justice League which is mostly adults while still being a big member of the Titans when need be
Not Teen Titans but The Titans.
One hot take I have is that Cyborg’s only good design is his Teen Titans ‘03 design, at least in outside media from the comics (The Comics definitely have a design issue with him imo, but I haven’t seen every single Cyborg design). I think all that Blue just makes him pop out and stand out more, rather than just being half gray and slight blots of red circles. The clearer design of the Blue transparent “glass” conveys that he is broken, more than him just being “covered” by the metal. So many of his designs also make him too lean, when he should be a buffer looking character, no pun intended. He was a Quarterback and should already be a beefy dude.
I think Cyborg joining the JL is fine, but the way DC did it was not. I think there should be a comic where he actually is asked to join by the Trinity, instead of just being there from the start like what the New52 did.
People have no problem with Wally West or Roy Harper joining the League and they’re FOUNDING MEMBERS of the Titans. Cyborg shouldn’t just be limited to the Titans either.
Cyborg actually joined the justice league one year before the N52 reboot when it was led by dickbats and Donna troy.
I don't think most people have a problem with Cyborg as a member of the Justice League, they just have a problem with him being a founding member of the League as it basically removed all of his history with the Titans. The New 52 just did the Teen Titans so dirty in general, this is just one of the many problems.
Awesome video, please keep up the great work! And speaking of Cyborgs, maybe u could talk about Cyborg Superman, or another Superman villain, like Doomsday.
I'm really grateful for your response to my comment!!! You took my thoughts straight out of my head!
Thanks for commenting and giving me a great talking point!
I don’t understand why someone wouldn’t like cyborg? He’s pretty cool
He don't have important body parts
cyborg is dope as heck and he should have been had his own shows and movies
YO BRO SHOUTED ME OUT!!!!
Glad you liked the mentor idea for Cyborg. I think it's the best role for him out of the original members.
I'll be honest, Cyborg is cool, I do like him, but he is by no means my favorite. I would actually like for them to kill off Cyborg permanently to give drama and actual consequences in the world of DC, and it would actually be a great loss for everyone, not only from losing a friend, but also from losing a valuable asset because Cyborg does a lot, he hacks in everything, even Apokolips and New Genesis technology and Motherboxes, he makes Boom Tubes, he creates and analyzes a bunch of things like suits and contingency plans and gadgets for other heroes and villains, and other things, so Cyborg is very powerful and important and useful and versatile that would make losing him a great pushback for the heroes, at least for a while because with characters like Raven who can make portals and do crazy things like that.
Imagine this plot: In Beast World it established that Cyborg is missing half of his brain, so the build upon that where a villain infects Cyborg with Motherbox or Fatherbox or something like that which will progress his technological transformation to where he is fully a machine or most of his brain is converted to where he doesn't have any emotion anymore and he then progresses his conversion. Then he will be a fully robotic being and it will be a story where "The man died, and only the machine is left." So it is a thing where he dies, but not really, because he is still physically there, but Victor Stone is completely gone, replaced with the machines and all of that. The the machine goes on those A.I. eradication of life where the machine that used to be Cyborg thinks about life and things like that and he comes to the conclusion that every creator make their creations perfect and better than them, so God created mankind, so mankind is better than God, and mankind created robots and things like him, and so he is better than mankind and therefore better than God, just that kind of way of thinking. And he believes that he should irradiated all life. Then this machine captures and uses City Boy and his powers to set up a bunch factories everywhere around the world, hundreds of them and more and more constantly being developed with City Boy's powers and the factories make robots for a robot army that he develops, and he not only had those factories, but he also has underground factories and even if a factory or a number of factories get taken out he can just rebuild it instantly with City Boy's powers so that it isbjust like nothing happened and, again, there are more factories always being made. As for the robots that he builds, they are not dead weight or fodder, this machine actually hacks into all of the important things like the Batcave, the federal governments around the world, especially with Waller's servers and places like that, and the bases and operating places of the heroes like Titans Tower and the WatchTower and other places like that and Lex Corp and S.T.A.R. Labs, and the machine just gets a ton of information from those things, data on the heroes and villains, and everyone's strengths and weaknesses, contingency plans on how to defeat them, locations of things, data on weapons and other things, just a whole bunch of data on everything and everyone, and it uses this data to aquire resources like Nth Metal and other things to create the robots, because with all of that data he inputs this stuff into the robots where the robots are not just robots that Superman can casually go through, they are specifically designed to take on everyone with built in contingencies and weakness of the heroes and villains, like sonics, emitting red sun Nth Metal incorporated into their designs to be anti-magic and the ability to travel places like underwater and in space and other dimensions and universes and incorporating lex suits in there and things like that. Then you have the machine analyzing and taking and countering lantern rings and the time travel sphere from the Legion of Super Heroes, and the Phanthom Zone Projector, where he and his army can time travel and come in and out of the Phanthom Zone if anyone sends them there and he goes around time and space to other universes and doing crazy things like that irradicating other universes and taking resources and bolstering his forces with other advanced and dangerous technology and things like that. So it is not only a threat to Earth, it is a threat to all of existence where he is attaching other planets and other universes and other realms and just everywhere even Apokolips and New Genesis and it is on some X-Men Days of Future's Past type of stuff where the heroes and villains and people are all being overwhelmed and defeated by this machine and it's forces and it is just some end times thing. Even if the heroes win they loose Cyborg, Cyborg would be gone for all intensive purposes because he was replaced with the machine from converting him and taking him over, and so they lose Cyborg and an asset because he can't make Boom Tubes and hack and analyze things anymore so they loose a very value asset and that would really affect the heroes.
Tell me what you all think.
Yeah i think honestly the only problem i have here is that cyborgs whole death seems to silent and doesn't seem like its impactful enough for such a major member of the TT. I feel like if you want a good death for anyone that big is to make it feel major or like a big event and then have someone like lex or darksied use his body in order to create something and then have the bits of his spirit take over bits of his new robotic form creating grid
Were you writer for DC during the mid to late 2000s? Because this is really starting to sound like that. (DC had a tendency to just do horrible things to their characters in that time period for the sake of drama or to kill of characters and literally no one liked it)
Jokes aside, I think just killing characters for the sake of drama or just to have characters die is just lazy writing. But if you're going to kill off characters, can it not be a Titan? I swear, whenever DC needs a character to die they always look at the Titans, give these a break, geez.
DC will never kill off a character permanently in the main continuity.
Damn I really thought my take about him being portrayed better in the 2019 doom patrol than the 2003 teen titans was wild enough to be featured
Doom patrol was peak but I still don't get why they added cyborg to the team and not beast boy.
@@abiodunsulaiman2297 If I remember correctly, Doom Patrol was supposed to take place in the same universe as Titans, so Beast Boy not being included in the show was because, at the same time, he was a member of the Titans. After it became its own separate universe, I guess they decided since there was already a Beast Boy on one live action DC Universe show they didn't want to cast another Beast Boy for Doom Patrol as I imagine they'd have to do as I doubt Beast Boy's actor in titans likely wouldn't be able to do both shows at the same exact time. I guess they still wanted a popular Titans character in the Doom Patrol so they picked Cyborg who, while I probably wouldn't have put him on that team, still fits very well.
The Doom Patrol is a team of misfits whose powers or physical appearances cause them to be alienated by the rest of the world. Overtime, the team becomes a family and starts to accept themselves for who they are and not what they were or what they perceive as normal. That is basically Cyborg's story, someone who lost his humanity after an accident that leads to him being alienated by society only to be accepted by a group featuring other misfits who become a close family as Cyborg learns to accept himself for who he is now instead of dwelling on the past. He fits flawlessly.
Static aka Static Shock
Thanks, you explained my opinion completely correctly
I lied these videos! Keep it up man ❤
Can you do one for Black Lightning! I wish he was more popular
Ya I can add him to the list!
Awesome. Another video. This channel is quickly becoming to the comic community what Wendigoon is to the Horror/true crime community.
damn this is actually such a great comparison. as an avid Wendigoon watcher, i completely agree with this statement ☝️ TMM giving the comic community what they need, one video at a time
Thank you so much! Its a huge compliment to be compared to someone like that and I really do appreciate it. Hopefully one day I can grow to his numbers and keep this community as a great place to be!
You brought up an excellent point about the Titans members having a serious lack of identifiable arch nemesis.
Have you considered doing a video where you re-appropriate some lesser used/lesser known DC villains for the various members of the Titans, like your Marvel/DC villain swap videos?
I like him as a Titan and maybe he should get his own side gig, where he can help from a distance and possibly come to the aid of the Justice League when a global threat appears.
To me, his 2003 design is the definition Cyborg. The white, sliver, blue and black go so well together. Even his personality and attitude were a good balance of energetic, outgoing, humor, seriousness, compassion and intelligence.
PEAK HAS DROPPED!
can you make a video about who would you include in your own personal DC team? wether it'd be a Justice League team like the JSA, Justice League International or your own original team. for me my dream team would Include Tim Drake, Beast Boy, Impulse, Hawk-girl (Kendra Saunders), Animal-Man, Black Canary, Ice, Elongated-Man, Jessica Cruz and Blue Beetle.
In my head canon, Cyborg goes from being a Teen Titan and as adult he joins the Justice League
Cyborg in Justice League doom was a dope version of cyborg
they must revive the teen titans 2003
You forgot about my comments on your community tab….oh well ya snooze ya lose I guess!!
Anyhow in my unpopular opinion, Cyborg can have Platinum from the Metal Men, as his love interest, even if it’s a one time thing, but I think it sounds like a good idea!!
Cyborg should be and stay were they finally put him back with The Titans not the Justice League or Teen Titans but The Titans with characters like Nightwing, Starfire, Raven, Beast Boy, Donna Troy and The Flash (Wally West). He belongs with this generation of heroes who have fully come into their own but not quite figured out their full potential.
they've been around for DECADES they should be way past their full potential by now.
@@UniverseChronology not when you reboot every five years (note I'm talking about their in-universe potential not real world potential)
@@gangofheroes I mean, even in-universe, these characters have been heroes for at least a decade and a half, they definitely have reached their full potential by this point, I mean Dick having been Batman and Wally being the Flash is still DC Canon, and if they have reached their potential, truly the others in their generation should've as well
The Snydercut made me love Cyborg
Cyborg is better as a support character rather than a lead
I think he is great in the Justice league, but making him an alternate is a great start!!!!
Unpopular opinions on Icon or milestone in general
@tyrellmultimedia have you considered playlists for some of these types of videos?~
I have a playlist already!
Here's the link with 30 videos in this series: ruclips.net/p/PLgezJZWv2lbuxC6g7wydg6K1Vz0WL29NG&si=ArSu_lMiu99OGM2h
If you watched Captain America civil war or read the civil war comics which justice league or/and teen titans members would be on iron man side or captain America side?
Most characters would likely be on Cap's side. A large amount of them have secret identities and know the dangers of that information getting out, but also Ironman recruits villains and that would instantly turn off any hero that might have agreed with him
This is actually a video I wanted to me a long time ago so maybe this is the right time to do it.
Hopefully we get to Icon and Static
Hot Take: Red Hood & Cyborg should team up. I feel like they contrast each other.
So many popular characters unpopular opinions, how about change it up and do Scarecrow? :)
I'll add him to the list!
Brainiac should be a cyborg villian
The first version of cyborg is stuck with the way he looks but mother box cyborg (the goat) could actually make himself look completely human if he really thought about it with nano tech or holograms, zack snyder probably knows that and probably would have done that at the in of the 5 movie are. Mother box cyborg made me like the character cuz he's why more than a handicapped cry baby with a few gun, now if writing stretch there imagination & stop being lazy, he's basically a mechanical green lantern. Btw i hate him as loud mouth mr catch phrase on teen titans back then it made me mentally throw him in the trash till 2011.
Black Canary Next?🖤💛
She's on the list!
Old Man Cyborg 😅
Nah man of steel bvs are kinda mid
To you. Not to me.