That's going to depend on the pickup and the boat. Boat: there is a 12' version (the '365') and a 14' version (the '430'). I've seen both in pickups with long beds, sometimes angled up, sometimes flat hanging somewhat over the end of the tailgate. One guy put the nose thru the back window, rolled down. So there isn't a simple yes/no answer to your question. I don't have a pickup, so I can't give you much more info. A good place to ask this question is on the Scout Inflatables Owners Group on facebook - that reaches Scout owners all over the country. facebook.com/groups/1643186979136221 If you end up buying a Scout, use discount code 'bix' at checkout for a 10% discount on the boat, and if you use that code I'll give you a 10% discount on any bixfish products except batteries ordered within a month of buying the boat. See bixfish.com
i got a 365 scout with a 1hp trolling motor.. also got a saturn kaboat 12 foot with a 9.9hp, the problem is 9.9 out boat 100 pounds is not fun to move and carry around lol not broken in yet and im going to sell it and geta 6hp that way i can use it both boats.... i was wondering if 6HP was too big for a scout 365.. says max 3.5hp
I checked with Scout first, and they said the motor I picked would be fine. That motor is this Tohatsu 6hp. It's on a 5hp block, and only weighs 57 lb for the version with external fuel tank only. I put the fuel tank up in the bow to move weight forward - the tank full with 3 gallons weighs almost 20 lb. The only issue I've run into is at full throttle the boat is a bit squirrely due to the slick bottom on the 365 - no fins, no keel. That's at speeds from about 13mph up to wide open which is about 16.5mph. I'm experimenting with a pipe or pool noodle under the floor to create a bit of a keel (the pipe definitely helps, more experiementing to do for more improvements), or maybe adding fins (which are surprisingly inexpensive) to the boat. One friend just went to a lower pitch prop, which slowed the boat down, but I don't want to go slower, I want to be more stable going fast. Anyway, I'm totally happy with this motor on the boat. I love the way it gets up on plane easily, at 10-ish mph.
@@ljbix I see.. I also do my transducer strap to the back bottom.. maybe do that with fins add 2 on each end 🤔 I think having a 3D printer would be nice to have now 😁 or maybe make something out of plexiglass plastic acrylic.. I'm almost playing with Keel on mine.. I just rolled up a towel and zip tie it down together, instead of using a pool noodle.. my max psi on my floor is 5psi and I'm going to try 6psi like you.
@@thatonebeone I make a transducer bracket that clamps onto the transom, and have just created a strap for a Garmin transducer to go on the pontoon just behind the transom. See bixfish.com for info on the transom mount, and ruclips.net/video/gcfXxbY_E4o/видео.html for a video on both the under-floor pipe and the pontoon mounted transducer.
@@thatonebeone Fins: You want something that can be glued to the pvc on the boat with a very strong bond - plexi or other plastics (eg, HDPE) can't do that. You would need pvc fins, and a good pvc adhesive (vinyl cement) like HH-66 or others. Here are fins that I think are close to the fins on the 460 boat, which has 4 fins total - this set is $10 for two of them (www.amazon.com/dp/B08XK7HKQZ). You can find them for less on AliExpress, like $15 for 4 fins (www.aliexpress.com/item/2255800920574581.html). The PVC cement will cost nearly as much as the fins ($18-19 for 8 oz can).
Hey Jim. I recently got a scout 365 and i was wondering how well the 6hp motor worked out long haul and more in depth? I’m looking to buy a new motor and im trying to figure out how high I can go. I’d really enjoy any insight
I'm not sure how much of an in depth review I can provide - the Tohatsu 6 has been flawless. Starts on the first or second pull after sitting cold for weeks, runs fine at all throttle settings, and transitions between throttle settings well. When I bought my Scout 430 I kept the Tohatsu instead of selling it with the boat, to put on the 430, and it has been great on that boat as well, with about the same top speed. There are a number of Scout owners here in Southern Califronia with this same motor, and I have not heard one negative comment.
So I'm wondering how you get away with putting on a motor almost twice the rated size that Scout calls for. I know when talking about motors this size, the physical weight is very important, so 3.5 hp to 6 hp isn't as big a difference as you might think, but if Scout thought the boat would run better with more power, wouldn't they say so. Why not just rate it for 6 and be done with it. Could this void your warranty? Just curious because I'm thinking about purchasing this boat and I like the smaller size compared to the 430.
I asked Scout if this motor was ok. Answer: yes. The motor weighs 57 lb, a 3.5hp Mercury weighs 43 lb wet, a mere 14 lb difference. When I was running my Yamaha 2.5hp, I carried 2 1-gallon gas cans in the back, near the transom - that's another 12lb. So in the end, the Tohatsu with it's external tank up in the bow presents essentially the same stern weight as a Merc 3.5 with some extra gas back there. To be safe on the weight front, I also started a diet and took off 20 lb, to compensate. So I'm pretty sure I"m ok on the weight front. The other issue of course is the power. The transom construction on the 365 is identical to that on the 430, as nearly as I can tell, and lots of poeple run 6hp on the 430, and some run as much as 8. Now we are left with speed. And there where there is an issue I think. At about 13-14mph the 365 behaves itself and handles well. Above tht it gets a bit skittish, and at 16mph I was worried about stability if I hit an unusual riffle. The 430 has 4 fins while the bottom of the 365 is slick. I'm playing with adding a pipe under the floor, and might add fins to the bottom. A friend just reduced his prop pitch so his 6hp motor couldn't push the boat past 14 mph or so.
@@ljbix Thanks for the reply. Instead of a pipe, I found one person out there who was using a pool noodle under the drop stitch floor to form a sort of keel. Boats to go sells the KaBoat which is most like the scout. Most of their models have the 4 skegs mounted under the floats fore and aft which is a good idea. Sea Eagle has the paddle ski 437, but it has no skegs. Both the Boats to go KaBoat and the Sea Eagle have wider floats by quite a bit from what I can see. There is a guy with a RUclips channel out of San Diego with a Scout 365 running the rated 3.5 hp motor and it seems to move pretty well from what I can tell. I'll be using mine on slow moving rivers in most cases. I like the Scout because of the smaller diameter floats. It's easier to paddle like a kayak that way. I'm still doing research at this time, but the Scout is still on my short list. Maybe I'll just go with the larger 430, as it is not that much larger and has the skegs plus the smaller tubes for easier paddling. Scout charges a premium for their boats compared to all the others. Is their quality all that much better? Thanks again for the reply. I'll be making my mind up pretty soon. Happy boating! Mike
@@savagemako17 Nice collection of info - thanks. I've assembled a pool noodle to try, but haven't had time to get out on the water to give it a go. But if you are going with the 3.5hp motor, I don't think stability is an issue at all - you will get maybe 10-ish mph out of the 365 with that motor I think. As for picking a Scout over other similar craft, I liked the boat and the construction, and I really liked the very active Scout community we have here in San Diego and Southern California. I was very surprised and pleased with it's stability - I'm 75 and I sometimes fly fish. I feel no qualms at all about standing in the boat and casting. I do have the stabilizer bar which is nice ot have when standing. As for 365 v 430, I found my 365 a bit tight as far as space is concered for the motor tiller, if a bass seat is put on the rear seat, and that was with the Yamaha 2.5hp motor,. (The swivel bass seat is a really nice thing to have.) WIth my 6hp it's way too cramped, and for that reason I'll probably move to a 430 soon. Also, the slick bottom on the 365 is actually an advantage when dragging the boat over sand.
The Yamaha 2.5 could only do 6-7 mph, and could not get the boat up on plane, so the Tohatsu at only 1/3rd throttle was a very nice surprise. You could probably get speeds from people with the motor you are considering on the Facebook Scout Inflatables Owners Group.
@@chasem8491 I had forgotten that. I did have the impression that things slowed down after that first run very quicky. Maybe I was reading a brief peak on the GPS in this video. But I know that later, on subsequent outings, about 7 was the fastest I could go with that motor, and that's consistent with what I've heard from others.
great setup master
Can you transport this boat fully inflated in the back of a pickup
That's going to depend on the pickup and the boat. Boat: there is a 12' version (the '365') and a 14' version (the '430'). I've seen both in pickups with long beds, sometimes angled up, sometimes flat hanging somewhat over the end of the tailgate. One guy put the nose thru the back window, rolled down. So there isn't a simple yes/no answer to your question. I don't have a pickup, so I can't give you much more info. A good place to ask this question is on the Scout Inflatables Owners Group on facebook - that reaches Scout owners all over the country. facebook.com/groups/1643186979136221
If you end up buying a Scout, use discount code 'bix' at checkout for a 10% discount on the boat, and if you use that code I'll give you a 10% discount on any bixfish products except batteries ordered within a month of buying the boat. See bixfish.com
Ok, will do !
i got a 365 scout with a 1hp trolling motor.. also got a saturn kaboat 12 foot with a 9.9hp, the problem is 9.9 out boat 100 pounds is not fun to move and carry around lol not broken in yet and im going to sell it and geta 6hp that way i can use it both boats.... i was wondering if 6HP was too big for a scout 365.. says max 3.5hp
I checked with Scout first, and they said the motor I picked would be fine. That motor is this Tohatsu 6hp. It's on a 5hp block, and only weighs 57 lb for the version with external fuel tank only. I put the fuel tank up in the bow to move weight forward - the tank full with 3 gallons weighs almost 20 lb. The only issue I've run into is at full throttle the boat is a bit squirrely due to the slick bottom on the 365 - no fins, no keel. That's at speeds from about 13mph up to wide open which is about 16.5mph. I'm experimenting with a pipe or pool noodle under the floor to create a bit of a keel (the pipe definitely helps, more experiementing to do for more improvements), or maybe adding fins (which are surprisingly inexpensive) to the boat. One friend just went to a lower pitch prop, which slowed the boat down, but I don't want to go slower, I want to be more stable going fast. Anyway, I'm totally happy with this motor on the boat. I love the way it gets up on plane easily, at 10-ish mph.
@@ljbix I see.. I also do my transducer strap to the back bottom.. maybe do that with fins add 2 on each end 🤔 I think having a 3D printer would be nice to have now 😁 or maybe make something out of plexiglass plastic acrylic.. I'm almost playing with Keel on mine.. I just rolled up a towel and zip tie it down together, instead of using a pool noodle.. my max psi on my floor is 5psi and I'm going to try 6psi like you.
@@thatonebeone I make a transducer bracket that clamps onto the transom, and have just created a strap for a Garmin transducer to go on the pontoon just behind the transom. See bixfish.com for info on the transom mount, and ruclips.net/video/gcfXxbY_E4o/видео.html for a video on both the under-floor pipe and the pontoon mounted transducer.
@@thatonebeone Fins: You want something that can be glued to the pvc on the boat with a very strong bond - plexi or other plastics (eg, HDPE) can't do that. You would need pvc fins, and a good pvc adhesive (vinyl cement) like HH-66 or others. Here are fins that I think are close to the fins on the 460 boat, which has 4 fins total - this set is $10 for two of them (www.amazon.com/dp/B08XK7HKQZ). You can find them for less on AliExpress, like $15 for 4 fins (www.aliexpress.com/item/2255800920574581.html). The PVC cement will cost nearly as much as the fins ($18-19 for 8 oz can).
Hey Jim. I recently got a scout 365 and i was wondering how well the 6hp motor worked out long haul and more in depth?
I’m looking to buy a new motor and im trying to figure out how high I can go.
I’d really enjoy any insight
I'm not sure how much of an in depth review I can provide - the Tohatsu 6 has been flawless. Starts on the first or second pull after sitting cold for weeks, runs fine at all throttle settings, and transitions between throttle settings well. When I bought my Scout 430 I kept the Tohatsu instead of selling it with the boat, to put on the 430, and it has been great on that boat as well, with about the same top speed. There are a number of Scout owners here in Southern Califronia with this same motor, and I have not heard one negative comment.
Thats right Jim but maybe put some weight on front your boat to keep nose down and get more speed thats what i ended up doing
I'll often have my bait tank up there, adding about 70 lb near the front seat. And 3 gal of fuel is another 20 lb.
So I'm wondering how you get away with putting on a motor almost twice the rated size that Scout calls for. I know when talking about motors this size, the physical weight is very important, so 3.5 hp to 6 hp isn't as big a difference as you might think, but if Scout thought the boat would run better with more power, wouldn't they say so. Why not just rate it for 6 and be done with it. Could this void your warranty? Just curious because I'm thinking about purchasing this boat and I like the smaller size compared to the 430.
I asked Scout if this motor was ok. Answer: yes. The motor weighs 57 lb, a 3.5hp Mercury weighs 43 lb wet, a mere 14 lb difference. When I was running my Yamaha 2.5hp, I carried 2 1-gallon gas cans in the back, near the transom - that's another 12lb. So in the end, the Tohatsu with it's external tank up in the bow presents essentially the same stern weight as a Merc 3.5 with some extra gas back there. To be safe on the weight front, I also started a diet and took off 20 lb, to compensate. So I'm pretty sure I"m ok on the weight front. The other issue of course is the power. The transom construction on the 365 is identical to that on the 430, as nearly as I can tell, and lots of poeple run 6hp on the 430, and some run as much as 8. Now we are left with speed. And there where there is an issue I think. At about 13-14mph the 365 behaves itself and handles well. Above tht it gets a bit skittish, and at 16mph I was worried about stability if I hit an unusual riffle. The 430 has 4 fins while the bottom of the 365 is slick. I'm playing with adding a pipe under the floor, and might add fins to the bottom. A friend just reduced his prop pitch so his 6hp motor couldn't push the boat past 14 mph or so.
Email me at jim@bixfish.com so I can reply with info about getting a discount on Scout boats.
@@ljbix Thanks for the reply. Instead of a pipe, I found one person out there who was using a pool noodle under the drop stitch floor to form a sort of keel. Boats to go sells the KaBoat which is most like the scout. Most of their models have the 4 skegs mounted under the floats fore and aft which is a good idea. Sea Eagle has the paddle ski 437, but it has no skegs. Both the Boats to go KaBoat and the Sea Eagle have wider floats by quite a bit from what I can see. There is a guy with a RUclips channel out of San Diego with a Scout 365 running the rated 3.5 hp motor and it seems to move pretty well from what I can tell. I'll be using mine on slow moving rivers in most cases. I like the Scout because of the smaller diameter floats. It's easier to paddle like a kayak that way. I'm still doing research at this time, but the Scout is still on my short list. Maybe I'll just go with the larger 430, as it is not that much larger and has the skegs plus the smaller tubes for easier paddling. Scout charges a premium for their boats compared to all the others. Is their quality all that much better? Thanks again for the reply. I'll be making my mind up pretty soon. Happy boating! Mike
@@savagemako17 Nice collection of info - thanks. I've assembled a pool noodle to try, but haven't had time to get out on the water to give it a go. But if you are going with the 3.5hp motor, I don't think stability is an issue at all - you will get maybe 10-ish mph out of the 365 with that motor I think. As for picking a Scout over other similar craft, I liked the boat and the construction, and I really liked the very active Scout community we have here in San Diego and Southern California. I was very surprised and pleased with it's stability - I'm 75 and I sometimes fly fish. I feel no qualms at all about standing in the boat and casting. I do have the stabilizer bar which is nice ot have when standing. As for 365 v 430, I found my 365 a bit tight as far as space is concered for the motor tiller, if a bass seat is put on the rear seat, and that was with the Yamaha 2.5hp motor,. (The swivel bass seat is a really nice thing to have.) WIth my 6hp it's way too cramped, and for that reason I'll probably move to a 430 soon. Also, the slick bottom on the 365 is actually an advantage when dragging the boat over sand.
Can you tell me how to install your fish finder in this 365?
I have the same Scout 365! What was your 2.5hp top speed per chance? I am considering getting a 4 - 5 hp Merc.
The Yamaha 2.5 could only do 6-7 mph, and could not get the boat up on plane, so the Tohatsu at only 1/3rd throttle was a very nice surprise. You could probably get speeds from people with the motor you are considering on the Facebook Scout Inflatables Owners Group.
@@ljbix Oh.. your video says you got past 9.3mph with the little Yamaha motor @ 80% throttle… confused lol
@@chasem8491 I had forgotten that. I did have the impression that things slowed down after that first run very quicky. Maybe I was reading a brief peak on the GPS in this video. But I know that later, on subsequent outings, about 7 was the fastest I could go with that motor, and that's consistent with what I've heard from others.
@@ljbix No worries sir thank you!