WOOD CANVAS CANOE RESTORATION PART 1
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- This video provides in depth detail to the restoration steps that I did not cover with the Chestnut Chum Wood Canvas Canoe Restoration. This is a restoration for a couple that requested my help and I gladly obliged. This canoe has seen better days as you will clearly see in the video and detailed work is required to bring the canoe back to its original beauty. I have employed different audio by using a new mic to help improve the audio presentation with the video. Half way through the video there is a big difference by using the mic. Perhaps you will notice. There will be two parts to this series. Part 1 disassembles the canoe, rebuilds the canoe stern and bow stems and over 40 rib tops. I detail in depth the techniques that I use to complete the task. Part 2 will be applying new planking, refurbishing the reusable planking, applying wood treatments, canvassing the canoe, building outwales to complete the gunwales and finally painting.
Thanks for the how to vid on the canvas repair, I’ve built a 16ft cedar strip canoe for myself and on a customers replaced all the wood in a fiberglass Novacraft and the same customer has a 17’ canvas canoe in about the same shape as yours except I got 2 or 3 broken ribs, never worked on a canvas before so thanks for your excellent how to :)
Happy to hear that you found the videos to be helpful. That’s what it is all about. Sounds like you have plenty of repair experience so it will be easy as pie for you! Best of luck!
Prairie Custom Woodworking here. Nice video on the restore on the canoe. I enjoyed it very much. Looking forward to the end product.
Happy to hear you enjoyed the video. I am always trying different things and I needed to change the audio a bit so I didn’t feel I was yelling at the camera. This canoe needs a lot of work and eventually the end product will be realized. Thanks for the comment and tuning in. Part 2 will be down the road a bit but I hope you’ll tune in for that as well. Have a great day!
Excellent content! I am preparing to do a restoration on an 1967 Old Town Otka. I can see where this could become a very addictive hobby. I just love seeing these old boats come back to life.
Thank you Gary. We think alike in regard to giving new life to these old boats. Best of luck with your OTCA restoration. That should be a fun one.
@@mainetripper already looking seriously at the rockler steam generator. New outwales on Otka take some serious bend in two different directions.
@garynovosel3726 highly recommend the Rockler steam generator for a practical means of generating steam without the need of using fuel in the workshop. Very handy. Worth every penny in my opinion. Those angles on OTCAs are extreme indeed and will most definitely require steam bending. Perhaps a day soak as well. Use food grade vacuum bag rolls available on Amazon and soak them within the bag….drain and then use the same bag to steam the outwales.
We gut a canoe needs a wicked bunch a work...We aint used ah since about '89 up Coburn Gore Shinin Bucks one night...the ole man put a 10 huss on ah once and flipped it right ovah...ya vids lookn mint guy!
Always good for a laugh Garv. Thanks bub!
Great video and nice work! Building one of these from scratch is on my bucket list.
Thank you Al! Yes I agree building one from scratch can only be rewarding. It is on my list as well. Someday for sure. All the best Al and I hope all is well. Thanks for watching and commenting. I have a feeling you will be ripping some major whitewater this year with your Mad River Canoe!
It looks like someone stored this canoe on the ground and allowed the moisture to degrade the wood - too bad. I’ve done some of this kind of work and there is no substitute for patience and a lot of clamps. Nice job.
Thank you Kevin. Yes, work like this does take quite a bit of patience as you know. The older I get the more patience I learn and the more clamps I purchase 😂. Appreciate you taking the time to watch and commenting. I truly enjoy the comments. Have a great day!
Fantastic effort on these rebuilds ! Much respect !
Means a lot! Appreciate it Craig! Thanks for stopping by and I hope all is well my friend! 👍
@@mainetripper You betcha, I hope someday we can share a nice campfire on the edge of a lake somewhere in Maine !
We will get that done!
Nice work, especially on the stem/inwale joinery, it’s tricky and you nailed it. Is that a Chestnut Bobs? Looking forward to the next installment.
Thank you Robin. This is a 14’ Custom Canoe. Ribbing is 1 3/4”. I mentioned in my video that there would only be two parts but I think there will be a few more to capture everything that needs to be done. You are very well aware of all the steps necessary. Enjoy this work Robin and thanks for inspiring me a while back to love this tradition.
Good work. Only one suggestion. The next time you repair rib tops I would cut the scarfs angled outward so that you leave more of the original rib material facing inward. Most of the repairs would then be hidden from view.
Thank you and yes I agree with your recommendation. Mike Elliotts book says to do exactly what you said and in a few places it may have made a difference. This is my plan moving forward. All the repairs are pretty well hidden but it required more work. With my previous restoration I only had 4 rib top repairs vice the 42 on this restoration. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Yes, some of those ribs looked rotten pretty far down so there was no hiding the repair anyway. With time the new wood and varnish will age and the repairs will disappear. The important thing is getting this canoe back on the water to be used for another couple generations. Is this canoe from a local builder? Do you know the age?
I restored this canoe for a couple that requested help. I believe it is a custom built canoe by a canoe builder in Ontario, Canada. The couple had mentioned they had a friend that had built it for them.
I’m watching your channel because I just inherited a Chestnut canoe on the condition I maintain it… turns out it may be an all out restoration. I don’t think it’s as bad as your project, but your video is invaluable, full of great reasoning and matches my skill set. Will go back and watch all your stuff. Ted from Smithers British Columbia.
Appreciate your comment and taking time to watch the videos. I hope you find them as a useful tool to help you along with your own restoration. You have inherited a classic and I am sure you will enjoy it fully after restoration. Best of luck with your project!
Great video, I’m looking forward to seeing the ongoing process. I’m guessing that because Robertson screws where used, this canoe was likely built in Canada
Hi Larry! Yes this canoe is a custom Canoe that was made for this couple while they were in Canada. I prefer the Robertson screws. It offers a nice finished look. Thank you for watching and commenting. I believe this series is going to be more parts than originally intended thought.
Maybe lead in the filler?
Im sure you know already about it .
Pressure wash the whole canoe after canvas is pulled.
Hey yeah good luck
Yes I am aware of the potential of lead in canvas canoe filler but without
knowing the exact recipe I couldn’t comment on it in the video. I am certain of the oils and the silica used. Mike Elliott provides a lead free concoction in his book “This Old Canoe”. I may make my own in the future. Disposal is another thing and I understand your sentiment on that front.
super travail méticuleux !
merci beaucoup apprécié!
Awesome.
Thank you! Appreciate you for taking the time to watch and comment. Have a great day!
Just out of curiosity, if an old strip built had canvass stripped and fiberglass clothed applied could the fiberglass be removed ?
I recently received an ancient O/T purported to be in excess of 100 years old , it has been glassed and has gunwale dry rot .
I am able to repair and was curious about the glass issue.
Of course , I do not need to remove all the glass, but thought I would ask.
Yes the fiberglass can be removed. It will require a heat gun and a putty knife or similar. Hard knowing if the fiberglass is impregnated with polyester resin or epoxy. That would depend on the year where the canvas was removed and fiberglass installed. Polyester resin comes off fairly easily with a heat gun and some elbow grease. Epoxy not so much. In regard the the gunwales with a canoe this age I am not surprised that they require replacement. Consider using ash lumber or Spruce to match the profile of the existing gunwales. I hope this helps!
I have a recent video series whereas I am removing fiberglass from a wooden ribbed canoe. I will be reinstalling canvas and filling the canvas with West System Epoxy and a a filler product also provided by West System. The project is The Flewelling Canoe Restoration if you want to check that out.
I'm working on a 1919 OT canoe. I took off the outwales to find that my rib ends are super slim. (Outboard to inboard, not bow to stern) Is this normal?
Rib ends vary and taper differently on all different types of canoe models. I am not exactly clear on what you are describing however if you could shoot me an email to mainetripper@gmail.com with a picture of the rib ends it may help. Also wcha.org forums may also have some information on your OT canoe.
I saw the photo on Facebook of which you were referring. I am not familiar with the closed gunwale system but apparently others are and have shared some info with you. Personally, I would take the time to scarf in new rib tips and transition to an open gunwale system for rot prevention. Just my opinion.