Yes they are! But they are limited to 750w and can't ride on some major trails (PCT) and can't ride in the Wilderness. I use mine to put in cameras, tree stands, and haul the meet out.
@@BranDon-zt7bmI live in South Carolina and it depends on where you are and what rules apply to a given county . It would be nice if everyone was on the same page . As we all know , most e-bikes are easily programmed for class 1 with a push of the button . However , because they are capable of class three they are not considered legal .
No, everywhere motorized vehicles are not allowed, ebikes are not either...around me. This makes sense to me because the goal of the closure is for habitat. They are trying to limit access to these areas. I'm glad they do. I want to hunt without a bunch of people ruining it. If you want to go, hike in or bicycle in like we do.
Finishing off my hunt for 23. I have the Apex Pro and here are my tips. I bought it mainly for hunting Elk in the Big Horn Mts. I will say without a doubt that it tripled my hunting area. Where I used to spend hours stalking in on dirt track to reach hunting areas, I was able to all but minimize that time and maximizes actual hunting hours. I am a semi fit 64 year old with bad feet. I don't like giving Elk the advantage of hearing me come a mile away in a vehicle / side x side / atv. The bike is very quiet but not silent. Save your spine and invest in some sort of shock for the seat. if you don't have a solar option. buy the portable kit and a spare battery. BAR mitts are a very good add as well. Oh yeah, darkness in the mts is a reality. Better get a light or suffer the pain. I also used it for extending my whitetail range in the Wisconsin homestead and plan on using it for spring Turkey. In the end, well worth it and I love the fact I actually am getting that slight leg workout on the bike. yes, you do have to pedal.
Fantastic summary and great tips! Thanks for sharing. That aligns quite well with my experience in areas where I've been able to use a bike. You can cover a lot more ground than without it and you don't make all the racket of an OHV.
What’s Wyoming laws to drive a e bike down closed oFS roads that say no motorized vehicles? There are a lot in the bighorns I always hike them but was wondering a bout a bike
As for rule one, we hunt government land, not national forest. I asked the game warden about using my ebike. After me answering where I'll be at and stuff, he said it'll be ok. Got smart and made a slide for hauling deer out, it's all down hill from my deer stand so it'll do 18 mph with a deer. Kinda funny how ppl talked smack at the start of season, now they all talking about getting on.
@@theoutdoorempire just a triangle piece, 2 short pieces of pipe as big wide as a deer, and two longer pipes, just hang it off befind the seat pole. I go up hill to my hunting grounds so it's mostly down hill when I leave. Fat tire bike pulls it nicely since not but one or two small mud puddles there.
you can charge your ebike anywhere ,with a power pack often wrongly call " power generator" 12 volts 1000 ah with a converter 110 volts you can charge easily in camping where there is no power
It's so much better to do your own build the new cyc x1 pro gen four will rip around just like a motorcycle. It's 5000w Mid-Drive I have the gen 3 and it's will get up to 57mph and go from zero to 40 in about 4 seconds. And that's the 3000w the 5000w will be way faster off the line and tip speed. When you buld your own You can put it on a much nicer frame then most of these ready made ebikes. And it will be lighter with a bigger better battery And you get much more power if you go with the cyc. Just something to always consider when buying an ebike.
1.) In Nevada the BLM permits ATVs and EMTBs 2.) my 1UP bike rack easily holds my E-CELLS Super Monarch Crown e-bike (75 lbs. W/O batteries, 95 lbs with both batteries. 3.) I have a BLUETTI AC200 MAX lithium iron-phosphate battery CHARGED by an Off Grid TREL 220 watt electric blanket 4.) my bike has a 60 mile pavement range and 30 mile on trail range by my experience W/ mild pedaling) 5.) Of COURSE it isn't an e-motorcycle!
Nice! Great info, thanks for sharing the specifics. And that's pretty great range. That is one area that I was a bit disappointed on the fat tire ebikes I've tried so far, the real world range was significantly less than advertised. Cheers.
Missed one huge point, loaded down with gear: will you survive in the terrain you hunt. Answer for us: NO. We access our terrain via a super steep trail and dirt bikes also use that trail, only the craziest dirt bikers use it and they wear full body armor and light packs with essentially water only. If the area is old logging trails clean of deadfall this bike would be awesome
Very good point! I mainly day hunted turkey with it so I was relatively light on gear, but if you have a lot of gear or are in some gnarly terrain, it's not going to be as smooth of a ride as you might imagine.
I'm from Pennsylvania and my camp is in north Central Pa. surrounded by thousands of acres of game lands. I'm 70 now and will be 71by this archery season. I have neuropathy and plantars fasciitis keeps me from walking as I did several years ago in my younger days. You see that my mind is like I'm 30 but my body 70 going on 80. Lol . But because of the E bikes I can ride to most if not all the areas that I hunted as a young lad. So I applied for a special permit through the Pennsylvania game commission that alarm me on specified roads that I picked and was okayed by The game commission.
I have a QuietKat Ranger. In the ECO mode using the PAS I get 15-20 miles when trail riding and not getting too crazy. Every now and then I’ll switch to BOOST or TRAIL mode when going up steeper hills. I bought an extra battery for just in case scenarios. I have yet to use it on any of my fishing excursions. I am 6’ 2” and weigh 200. I usually carry another 40 lbs of fishing, camping gear, and food. Would I use it for hunting? Not sure.
I look at an e-bike with a number of different purposes ! For hunting or utility on a farm requires a different setup ! Mountain biking or recreational biking requires other needs . You need a followup to this video !
The grizzly by arielrider goes up the steepest hills you can ride thought deep sand in the snow its 2-wheel drive it has 2 1000w motors 2 52v batteries I'm 170lbs and I'm towing over 100lbs for 20 miles at a speed of 20 miles a hour and the batteries are still 65% when I get home I'm sure it can probably tow more weight this bike is solid its 105lbs I'm going to test it and see if it can pull 160lbs thats the total weight of 2 trailers + all the camping gear
Good info here. Thinking of getting electric bikes for the grankdids... They're teenagers, so peddling will not bother them a bit... Was thinking Hunting Bike because, you know... Bigger, Badder, Better... But when I was young, and even into my 50's 100 miles at a time was a common weekend. So that question about range knocked some sense into me... Glad I stopped by to watch your video. Have you done one on electric assist dirt bikes?
No electric dirt bikes yet, but I'd love to. And ya, 100 miles in a day is not a thing with these fat tire hunting ebikes to my knowledge. I think we might be a ways out from that still. Even with multiple batteries that's unlikely. But for getting to and from a stand, setting cameras, scouting, hauling meat out, they're pretty handy.
@@theoutdoorempire Maybe a mini turbine generator... They're making them so small nowaday's... The RC Model Airplane crowd are flying jets around with them now... A gallon of something, and get that extra mileage... What a time to be alive.
Red flag on your range analysis is you said you kept it in mid gear. That's going to stress the drive train and run the battery which is probably why you weren't getting the range you wanted. Treat bicycles (electric or not) like anything with a gearbox. Start in 1st or 2nd and run up the gears as you pick up speed. Shift smart and you can leave assist in low and be fine for hours of riding, sipping power and calories.
Ya I tried that too quite a bit on those QuietKat bikes and when it was me and my gear weighing it down, 1st gear (mechanical or electric) didn't provide enough momentum to even maintain balance. Up hills where I was hunting, the lowest assist level had no effect whatsoever. The second assist level did a tiny bit, but barely enough to keep upright. The third assist level was the sweet spot where it didn't consume battery as fast as fourth or fifth, but it certainly helped when I needed it. I'm sure I could have ridden it more efficiently, but after trying it so many ways in so many environments, I'm not convinced that I could get to the middle of the advertised range even if I'm sweating my butt off the whole time with minimal assist. And if I do that, it sorta defeats the purpose of having an e-bike and I may as well ride my regular bike.
Here says no tires bigger than 21" on public hunting areas. Gane warden that knows me laughed when I should up with my normal 29 inch bike body and had 20"tires on it, fat tires. Like I told him, 10 mph shouldn't be to fast, he laughed and said ok, but don't come out with bigger tires.
My question to you, if you can afford Ebike why didn't you buy an extra battery ? Or at least have a solar charger ... Harbor Fright has solar chargers
I hear what you're saying, but an extra battery from some of these companies can cost an extra $1000, then you've got extra weight to cart around if you want it with you when you need it. Honestly, I don't find that a very enticing proposition. It would be nice to have one at base camp though.
Couldn't you just buy a dual bike rack that is made to hold 2 50lb bikes but just use it to carry 1 ebike? Then you could still use it for the family's regular bikes when not hunting.
Thanks for the comment! I actually looked into that but the racks I looked at specified something around 60 pounds max PER bike, so I figured each rack may not be solid enough to tote 75 pounds around, especially bouncing down logging roads. But, if you removed the battery and crossed your fingers it may be just fine.
I've never heard of something so ridiculous If you have a 750 w e-bike it's equal to 1hp I have one I can't even rip out with the bike And by the way what state was this
I'm in Idaho, but these same rules (absence of specific rules) apply to federal U.S. Forest Service lands. I wasn't really bothered by it though, there are still plenty of places to ride.
So! I got in a fight with the Forest Service over my ebike. Boiled down to brass tacks? The Park Service considers 750 watt or below non motorized. The Forest Service does not. So I could go to Yellowstone and ride my bike on a bike path no problem. But if I ride behind a forest service gate into a logging job with dozers and skidders? I am breaking the law….🙄
Indeed, all the different rules and regs from different jurisdictions is convoluted and frustrating at times. On the one hand it'd be nice if there was a federal rule that made it clear when and where you can use what type of ebikes anywhere. On the other hand, having individual agencies (plus states, cities, etc.) decide what to do on their own makes it more likely to have access to some places. But then it's super confusing and even conflicting at times. Not sure what the solution is. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Yea these things migjt work for flat-landers. I live in western nc and the mountains are only avout 5500ft but theyre straight up and down...this would be $6000+ waste of money
I hear ya, they aren't as effective in steep terrain. It isn't exactly flat out here in Idaho either and I've found that even a 750W motor can help up a steep logging road, but not without effort.
You can buy a trailer for that from some ebike companies. And at SHOT Show I actually saw a unicycle e-bike wheel barrow thing that you walk behind but it can carry a ton of gear or a harvested deer. It's called the Pack Wheel.
Hub drive bikes have NOTHING to do with sprockets and chains. Therefore gears have NO affect on torque unless pedaling. take chain off hub motor and it still goes! Mid drive have everything to do with chains and sprockets aka gears. Put the correct front and rear sprocket on the bike and you can get one to climb a tree! with ANY watt motor!
@@jasonhong2512 not sure about other places but Arkansas just says they follow Federal guidelines. Game warden here told me my bike is legal on all public land in the state.
Will your electric forest service is wrong because federal law states that if it is a 750 watt motor or less it is not classified as a motorized vehicle It is classified as a bicycle
True, if they're classified (class 1 or 2). But many of the hunting e-bikes from QuietKat, Rambo, or Bakcou, for example, are not classified or governed, particularly if they have a 1000W motor or better.
Rather, I could and did, but was surprised to encounter so many restrictions and limitations. I wanted others to have that information because ebike companies don't like to talk about those not-so-fun facts.
Far too many rules nowadays I live in England and are government wants to control every aspect of are life's its gotten to the point where its ridiculous I always use my ebike to go hunting I have heart disease and wouldn't be able to go hunting if it wasn't for the ebike ✌️👍👊
@@lesteryarbrough2403 Sure, I maybe should have worded my comment differently. I apologize for that. My reasons for not mounting the gun horizontally are 1) my primary use for my bike/gun combo is on shooting ranges where it is not allowed by course rules for safety. And 2) I also don't like it horizontally in hunting situations for the same reason (but all situations are different and if it works for you then don't listen to me). Also I personally just don't like the gun horizontally across the handlebars because I feel like it it not very well protected from branches, etc... And it can also make the bike wider than it needs to be with regards to going down narrow trails and near obstacles etc... At the end of the day I really can only speak to my experience with my shotguns mounted vertically on the front of the bike on the sporting clays course and I like how it works. To each his own though...
I hear ya on the classified part, but even that depends on the jurisdiction. In my town any ebike is regarded differently than a bicycle and therefore can't use all the same trails, class 1 or not.
Those things look horrible! Put some tassels on the handlebars and slap on a rainbow sticker on the side why don't you! What the heck? Get yourself an actual Electric bike like the Sur Ron Ultra or Storm Bee.
Just depends on where. There are places you can, but often they're the same places you can drive cars or motorcycles. But yes, we have a weird country. I like it all the same!
lol you can’t have all the fun ! the more research then I think I’m going to buy an electric dirt bike style seem more comfortable seat wise , plus I’ll be sticking to 2 tracks / FS roads . Gets me in to shed / turkey country when roads are drifted in with snow .
There's usually around my house. I even had one run into my house for the door was open. Some people are having to go find them and I have them running into my house 🤣
Sounds like ignorant officers for number 1. There is no law that make an ebike a motorcycle. If it’s not explicitly listed as illegal, it’s legal. Don’t ask permission from people who don’t know better
@@yo9758 not true. Every motorcycle law has a displacement stipulation. It dictates what license is needed. They’ve had to go back and add watt output limits of electric bikes.
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Are electric bikes allowed for hunting in your neck of the woods?
Yes they are! But they are limited to 750w and can't ride on some major trails (PCT) and can't ride in the Wilderness. I use mine to put in cameras, tree stands, and haul the meet out.
@@FATBIKEHUNTER Good to know! Those uses seem to be a great fit IMO.
You can in South Carolina on a class 1
@@BranDon-zt7bmI live in South Carolina and it depends on where you are and what rules apply to a given county . It would be nice if everyone was on the same page . As we all know , most e-bikes are easily programmed for class 1 with a push of the button . However , because they are capable of class three they are not considered legal .
No, everywhere motorized vehicles are not allowed, ebikes are not either...around me. This makes sense to me because the goal of the closure is for habitat. They are trying to limit access to these areas. I'm glad they do. I want to hunt without a bunch of people ruining it. If you want to go, hike in or bicycle in like we do.
Finishing off my hunt for 23. I have the Apex Pro and here are my tips. I bought it mainly for hunting Elk in the Big Horn Mts. I will say without a doubt that it tripled my hunting area. Where I used to spend hours stalking in on dirt track to reach hunting areas, I was able to all but minimize that time and maximizes actual hunting hours. I am a semi fit 64 year old with bad feet. I don't like giving Elk the advantage of hearing me come a mile away in a vehicle / side x side / atv. The bike is very quiet but not silent. Save your spine and invest in some sort of shock for the seat. if you don't have a solar option. buy the portable kit and a spare battery. BAR mitts are a very good add as well. Oh yeah, darkness in the mts is a reality. Better get a light or suffer the pain. I also used it for extending my whitetail range in the Wisconsin homestead and plan on using it for spring Turkey. In the end, well worth it and I love the fact I actually am getting that slight leg workout on the bike. yes, you do have to pedal.
Fantastic summary and great tips! Thanks for sharing. That aligns quite well with my experience in areas where I've been able to use a bike. You can cover a lot more ground than without it and you don't make all the racket of an OHV.
What’s Wyoming laws to drive a e bike down closed oFS roads that say no motorized vehicles?
There are a lot in the bighorns I always hike them but was wondering a bout a bike
As for rule one, we hunt government land, not national forest. I asked the game warden about using my ebike. After me answering where I'll be at and stuff, he said it'll be ok. Got smart and made a slide for hauling deer out, it's all down hill from my deer stand so it'll do 18 mph with a deer. Kinda funny how ppl talked smack at the start of season, now they all talking about getting on.
Nice! I'd love to see how you rigged that up.
@@theoutdoorempire just a triangle piece, 2 short pieces of pipe as big wide as a deer, and two longer pipes, just hang it off befind the seat pole. I go up hill to my hunting grounds so it's mostly down hill when I leave. Fat tire bike pulls it nicely since not but one or two small mud puddles there.
E-bikes are allowed everywhere if they’re 750 watts or under. If it’s over, just put a 750 watt sticker on it. Your welcome
And then the ranger busted out a volt meter. 😳
Watts equal volts x amps. A voltmeter won't tell you watts.
Not in SC they are not in lot of state land and others only class 1
Not in NC if you're on gameland. NO MOTORIZED VEHICLES WHAT SO EVER
If I ever see one who's educated and savy enaugh to test electric motors.@@theoutdoorempire
you can charge your ebike anywhere ,with a power pack often wrongly call " power generator" 12 volts 1000 ah with a converter 110 volts you can charge easily in camping where there is no power
Good to know.
It's so much better to do your own build the new cyc x1 pro gen four will rip around just like a motorcycle. It's 5000w Mid-Drive I have the gen 3 and it's will get up to 57mph and go from zero to 40 in about 4 seconds. And that's the 3000w the 5000w will be way faster off the line and tip speed. When you buld your own
You can put it on a much nicer frame then most of these ready made ebikes. And it will be lighter with a bigger better battery And you get much more power if you go with the cyc. Just something to always consider when buying an ebike.
I like the sound of that very much! But then, I already have a dirt bike.
Would you share the configuration? I’m thinking about a build . Trying to estimate the difference. Thanks!
I’m looking at the CYC for my Borealis Flume, as an amputee this looks to be the ticket for me being able to get out there and hunt.
1.) In Nevada the BLM permits ATVs and EMTBs 2.) my 1UP bike rack easily holds my E-CELLS Super Monarch Crown e-bike (75 lbs. W/O batteries, 95 lbs with both batteries.
3.) I have a BLUETTI AC200 MAX lithium iron-phosphate battery CHARGED by an Off Grid TREL 220 watt electric blanket 4.) my bike has a 60 mile pavement range and 30 mile on trail range by my experience W/ mild pedaling) 5.) Of COURSE it isn't an e-motorcycle!
Nice! Great info, thanks for sharing the specifics. And that's pretty great range. That is one area that I was a bit disappointed on the fat tire ebikes I've tried so far, the real world range was significantly less than advertised. Cheers.
Missed one huge point, loaded down with gear: will you survive in the terrain you hunt. Answer for us: NO. We access our terrain via a super steep trail and dirt bikes also use that trail, only the craziest dirt bikers use it and they wear full body armor and light packs with essentially water only. If the area is old logging trails clean of deadfall this bike would be awesome
Very good point! I mainly day hunted turkey with it so I was relatively light on gear, but if you have a lot of gear or are in some gnarly terrain, it's not going to be as smooth of a ride as you might imagine.
Haha, learned this exact thing the hard way, miles in on a sketchy trail with an elk down, damn 5th trip back to get the stupid bike 😂
I'm from Pennsylvania and my camp is in north Central Pa. surrounded by thousands of acres of game lands. I'm 70 now and will be 71by this archery season. I have neuropathy and plantars fasciitis keeps me from walking as I did several years ago in my younger days. You see that my mind is like I'm 30 but my body 70 going on 80. Lol . But because of the E bikes I can ride to most if not all the areas that I hunted as a young lad. So I applied for a special permit through the Pennsylvania game commission that alarm me on specified roads that I picked and was okayed by The game commission.
That is excellent! What a great reason to use an e-bike. And I'm encouraged to hear the Game Commission made an allowance for you. Carry on partner!
Thanks for the good info ! I just ordered a young e scout pro 750 can’t wait for it to arrive.
Awesome congratulations! What led you to pick that ebike?
I have a QuietKat Ranger. In the ECO mode using the PAS I get 15-20 miles when trail riding and not getting too crazy. Every now and then I’ll switch to BOOST or TRAIL mode when going up steeper hills. I bought an extra battery for just in case scenarios. I have yet to use it on any of my fishing excursions. I am 6’ 2” and weigh 200. I usually carry another 40 lbs of fishing, camping gear, and food. Would I use it for hunting? Not sure.
Good intel, thanks for sharing. I wonder if they've improved the battery since I tested one.
Well damn, I answered yes to all these questions and I still don't have one. Time to get one then.
Guess so!
I look at an e-bike with a number of different purposes !
For hunting or utility on a farm requires a different setup ! Mountain biking or recreational biking requires other needs .
You need a followup to this video !
Great points, I agree!
Their currently classifying E bikes as assault bikes 😂
With the way some people rode them through town, I can understand why. 🤣
The grizzly by arielrider goes up the steepest hills you can ride thought deep sand in the snow its 2-wheel drive it has 2 1000w motors 2 52v batteries I'm 170lbs and I'm towing over 100lbs for 20 miles at a speed of 20 miles a hour and the batteries are still 65% when I get home I'm sure it can probably tow more weight this bike is solid its 105lbs I'm going to test it and see if it can pull 160lbs thats the total weight of 2 trailers + all the camping gear
Dang, sounds like a beast!
Good info here. Thinking of getting electric bikes for the grankdids... They're teenagers, so peddling will not bother them a bit... Was thinking Hunting Bike because, you know... Bigger, Badder, Better... But when I was young, and even into my 50's 100 miles at a time was a common weekend. So that question about range knocked some sense into me... Glad I stopped by to watch your video. Have you done one on electric assist dirt bikes?
No electric dirt bikes yet, but I'd love to. And ya, 100 miles in a day is not a thing with these fat tire hunting ebikes to my knowledge. I think we might be a ways out from that still. Even with multiple batteries that's unlikely. But for getting to and from a stand, setting cameras, scouting, hauling meat out, they're pretty handy.
@@theoutdoorempire Maybe a mini turbine generator... They're making them so small nowaday's... The RC Model Airplane crowd are flying jets around with them now... A gallon of something, and get that extra mileage... What a time to be alive.
@@bosatsu76 Oh man I like the sound of that!
Good review, and yes if in doubt ask the peoplevwho might write your ticket before going and hoping you're okay
That's how I feel about it.
Red flag on your range analysis is you said you kept it in mid gear. That's going to stress the drive train and run the battery which is probably why you weren't getting the range you wanted.
Treat bicycles (electric or not) like anything with a gearbox. Start in 1st or 2nd and run up the gears as you pick up speed. Shift smart and you can leave assist in low and be fine for hours of riding, sipping power and calories.
Ya I tried that too quite a bit on those QuietKat bikes and when it was me and my gear weighing it down, 1st gear (mechanical or electric) didn't provide enough momentum to even maintain balance. Up hills where I was hunting, the lowest assist level had no effect whatsoever. The second assist level did a tiny bit, but barely enough to keep upright. The third assist level was the sweet spot where it didn't consume battery as fast as fourth or fifth, but it certainly helped when I needed it. I'm sure I could have ridden it more efficiently, but after trying it so many ways in so many environments, I'm not convinced that I could get to the middle of the advertised range even if I'm sweating my butt off the whole time with minimal assist. And if I do that, it sorta defeats the purpose of having an e-bike and I may as well ride my regular bike.
Here says no tires bigger than 21" on public hunting areas. Gane warden that knows me laughed when I should up with my normal 29 inch bike body and had 20"tires on it, fat tires. Like I told him, 10 mph shouldn't be to fast, he laughed and said ok, but don't come out with bigger tires.
My question to you, if you can afford Ebike why didn't you buy an extra battery ? Or at least have a solar charger ... Harbor Fright has solar chargers
I hear what you're saying, but an extra battery from some of these companies can cost an extra $1000, then you've got extra weight to cart around if you want it with you when you need it. Honestly, I don't find that a very enticing proposition. It would be nice to have one at base camp though.
Couldn't you just buy a dual bike rack that is made to hold 2 50lb bikes but just use it to carry 1 ebike? Then you could still use it for the family's regular bikes when not hunting.
Thanks for the comment! I actually looked into that but the racks I looked at specified something around 60 pounds max PER bike, so I figured each rack may not be solid enough to tote 75 pounds around, especially bouncing down logging roads. But, if you removed the battery and crossed your fingers it may be just fine.
I've done it a lot of the e bike have a bend in the top tube that makes the back tire stick up in the air but it worked fine.
I've never heard of something so ridiculous
If you have a 750 w e-bike it's equal to 1hp
I have one I can't even rip out with the bike
And by the way what state was this
I'm in Idaho, but these same rules (absence of specific rules) apply to federal U.S. Forest Service lands. I wasn't really bothered by it though, there are still plenty of places to ride.
The Idaho Big Game Rules have motorized restrictions only in some units. You must be in one of those. In the Panhandle there are no restrictions.
So! I got in a fight with the Forest Service over my ebike. Boiled down to brass tacks? The Park Service considers 750 watt or below non motorized. The Forest Service does not. So I could go to Yellowstone and ride my bike on a bike path no problem. But if I ride behind a forest service gate into a logging job with dozers and skidders? I am breaking the law….🙄
Indeed, all the different rules and regs from different jurisdictions is convoluted and frustrating at times. On the one hand it'd be nice if there was a federal rule that made it clear when and where you can use what type of ebikes anywhere. On the other hand, having individual agencies (plus states, cities, etc.) decide what to do on their own makes it more likely to have access to some places. But then it's super confusing and even conflicting at times. Not sure what the solution is. Thanks for sharing your experience!
That ain't stopping me bra it's stealth technology so quite and if it isn't snowing there know way day they catch me
Yea these things migjt work for flat-landers. I live in western nc and the mountains are only avout 5500ft but theyre straight up and down...this would be $6000+ waste of money
I hear ya, they aren't as effective in steep terrain. It isn't exactly flat out here in Idaho either and I've found that even a 750W motor can help up a steep logging road, but not without effort.
You just recited 5 reasons why I have stayed with my Cogburn CB4 fat-bike. #bikefishing USFS public lands and waters.
Good call!
I'm still looking for a review from somebody that lives in the state of Texas
I throw my ranger on the roof, I just take off the front wheel and take out the battery. It's not too bad.
Good to know. I just thought it was sort of a pain to take off the front wheel.
@@theoutdoorempire30 secs or less.
If the SHTF, you can hunt what you want, when you want ,the way you want to.
In my state as long you’re pedaling your legal
Thanks for the info
No problem 👍
great tips I wouldn’t have thought of 👌🏿
Glad you enjoyed!
I sure could use an E deer cart
You can buy a trailer for that from some ebike companies. And at SHOT Show I actually saw a unicycle e-bike wheel barrow thing that you walk behind but it can carry a ton of gear or a harvested deer. It's called the Pack Wheel.
What about e bikes unpowered ?
If there's a motor on em and you get checked, I don't think they'll care if your using the motor or not. But who knows.
Great quality fat bike and lighter than expected.
Right on!
Get a motorcycle hauler. 75lbs is light if you're coming from dirtbikes and motorcycles
Not here in minnesota
Hub drive bikes have NOTHING to do with sprockets and chains. Therefore gears have NO affect on torque unless pedaling. take chain off hub motor and it still goes!
Mid drive have everything to do with chains and sprockets aka gears. Put the correct front and rear sprocket on the bike and you can get one to climb a tree! with ANY watt motor!
Amen to that!
Yes but really slow
Allowed everywhere here on national public land. 750 watt
Good to know! Whereabouts are you referring to?
@@theoutdoorempire Arkansas
Under federal law you are allowed to hunt with a ebike 750 watt and under on all federal land not state lands
@@jasonhong2512 not sure about other places but Arkansas just says they follow Federal guidelines. Game warden here told me my bike is legal on all public land in the state.
@@Futurase1also Illinois & Georgia
Ebikes fold
Deer do too when their bones snap.
The bike rack will support it. My bike is 112
100 without battery.
Some ebikes fold, many don't
Will your electric forest service is wrong because federal law states that if it is a 750 watt motor or less it is not classified as a motorized vehicle It is classified as a bicycle
The rules and regs are certainly confusing still. I'm gonna dig deeper and see what I can find out.
Md says all good if the bike is 750 watts or less....and pedal assist
Awesome!
Most E-bikes only go 20 miles an hour tops & they are governed!
True, if they're classified (class 1 or 2). But many of the hunting e-bikes from QuietKat, Rambo, or Bakcou, for example, are not classified or governed, particularly if they have a 1000W motor or better.
Wait you don’t have a truck?
*Didn't have a truck. I do now. 😁
So basically YOU couldn't so nobody else should
Rather, I could and did, but was surprised to encounter so many restrictions and limitations. I wanted others to have that information because ebike companies don't like to talk about those not-so-fun facts.
Far too many rules nowadays I live in England and are government wants to control every aspect of are life's its gotten to the point where its ridiculous I always use my ebike to go hunting I have heart disease and wouldn't be able to go hunting if it wasn't for the ebike ✌️👍👊
Keep on trucking! I mean, keep on e-biking!
@@theoutdoorempire cheers mate 👍
You should definitely NOT mount your gun across the handlebars like that.
From a guy called ebikescabbards, I'm guessing you have a better solution?! Pray tell.
Why mine works fine.i made an accessory rail to hold a gun rack.
@@lesteryarbrough2403 Sure, I maybe should have worded my comment differently. I apologize for that. My reasons for not mounting the gun horizontally are 1) my primary use for my bike/gun combo is on shooting ranges where it is not allowed by course rules for safety. And 2) I also don't like it horizontally in hunting situations for the same reason (but all situations are different and if it works for you then don't listen to me). Also I personally just don't like the gun horizontally across the handlebars because I feel like it it not very well protected from branches, etc... And it can also make the bike wider than it needs to be with regards to going down narrow trails and near obstacles etc... At the end of the day I really can only speak to my experience with my shotguns mounted vertically on the front of the bike on the sporting clays course and I like how it works. To each his own though...
Question to #2. Who the hell hunts and not have a truck. Maybe you should not hunt at all hahaha
I think you'd be surprised!
class 1 ebikes are considered bikes, not motorcycles, so just get a class 1 ebike...
I hear ya on the classified part, but even that depends on the jurisdiction. In my town any ebike is regarded differently than a bicycle and therefore can't use all the same trails, class 1 or not.
Check out M-81 ULTV
Lol just take the battery out then you got a regular pedal bike
That's one way to do it! 😂
Question #6 what kind of man doesn’t have a truck?
Many, many types of men, as it turns out.
Those things look horrible! Put some tassels on the handlebars and slap on a rainbow sticker on the side why don't you! What the heck? Get yourself an actual Electric bike like the Sur Ron Ultra or Storm Bee.
Dude, I'm gonna put tassels on the bars haha! But those other kinda bikes look pretty sweet.
@@theoutdoorempire The Sur Ron Ultra is a better value. $6,500 and it can be yours
Carry an extra battery
Not a bad option.
I'm protected by the ADA :)
Nice!
They should be great looking for Bigfoot
It's perfect for that.
good idea for quail hunt no noise lol
For sure!
Lol you think government employees will tell you the truth?
Yes. Just regular ole good people at work. I have no rational reason not to believe what they say.
@@theoutdoorempirebe careful when drinking that Kool-Aid
@@theoutdoorempire Diversity hires aren't to be trusted.
if your not allowed to use them then why the hell are they pushing them. Weird country you have.
Just depends on where. There are places you can, but often they're the same places you can drive cars or motorcycles. But yes, we have a weird country. I like it all the same!
Much better to ask forgiveness than permission…
You also become lion bait while riding 😂
Ah yes, reason #6.
This guy doesn’t even have a truck how can you trust this advice?😂
With a grain of salt 😜
So you are always riding e bikes but made a video to talk ppl out of buying one?
Pretty much. Or at least so you know the cons and not just the pros. 😂
lol you can’t have all the fun ! the more research then I think I’m going to buy an electric dirt bike style seem more comfortable seat wise , plus I’ll be sticking to 2 tracks / FS roads . Gets me in to shed / turkey country when roads are drifted in with snow .
There's usually around my house. I even had one run into my house for the door was open. Some people are having to go find them and I have them running into my house 🤣
Ya they all seem to be hanging out at your house or on other private property 😂. Harder to find on public land for a newbie like me.
Sounds like ignorant officers for number 1. There is no law that make an ebike a motorcycle. If it’s not explicitly listed as illegal, it’s legal. Don’t ask permission from people who don’t know better
Thanks for commenting!
If it’s got a motor it’s a motorized vehicle that the law lol don’t have to specify anything
@@yo9758 not true. Every motorcycle law has a displacement stipulation. It dictates what license is needed. They’ve had to go back and add watt output limits of electric bikes.
Have u ever hunted wolf before
Nope