Could Legendary Godzilla Survive The Heisei Era
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for those who think mv would get slammed this video is them without their scaling and just their normal movie counterparts
I mean even with that he aint clearing ghidorah... The noodle is a planetary threat by the logic you LISTED, SINCE he is around the power of multiple divine moths... And MV is barely around a few continents...
So like... Even by the logic you say... It still is wrong off just... Common sense
Yet another way people get infected with stupidity
@@KrystianZieba-kc8txwithout scaling bro just on screen stats/strengths
@@SpinoAnimationsYT thats litteraly what i did moron
@@SpinoAnimationsYT this was NO SCALING, and ONLY what we got on screen. Learn to read
A few things:
Mechagodzilla wouldn't be anywhere near as much of a challenge as you think for MV Goji. In fact I'll go on record as saying it would get demolished with the quickness. MV Goji and Heisei are polar opposites in terms of how they fight, and Mechagodzilla was built to counter a beam-heavy opponent. Remember, the one time Godzilla decided to mix it up with Mechagodzilla, he dominated. Mechagodzilla was simply not built for melee combat. And that's exactly what MV Godzilla prefers.
And in my own personal opinion, Biollante wouldn't be the cakewalk you think. In fact she'd very likely win. Hell, she could realistically defeat the entire Heisei roster save Destoroyah. Her acid sap is absolutely devastating to kaiju that don't have regeneration. And speaking of regeneration, hers is second to none. Possibly even stronger than Heisei Goji himself.
tf? all other heisei kaiju one shot biollante
@@primisoda1400 Biollante can't be one shot by anything in any of the Godzilla films, except maybe a Burning Godzilla explosion, lol. He's 100% right, the regen is insane. Only Destoroyah & Biollante have that level of crazy regen. Biollante DID NOT DIE from Godzilla shooting the ray into her mouth, pretty much instantly regenerated from it. Godzilla went down from the Anti Nuclear Bacteria thanks to Biollante's acid spit raising his body temp. With Godzilla 'dead' Biollante just went back into it's spore form. We didn't get to see a full fight between Godzilla & Biollante because of the anti nuclear bacteria. MV Goji isn't winning this one without going Burning Godzilla. Even then, Biollante might be able to escape as spores.
@@zakuzeon7382 wtf?
so u saying the same nigga who got no diffed by that weak ass godzilla cant be murdered by even a normal mechagodzilla?
So..we are just forgetting about Burning Goji?
@@Randomdude28499 exactly😂
I think this is a fair assessment. MV is more of an "In your face" brawler which would work against both Biollante's forms, Ghidorah, both forms of Mothra and Battra, and maybe forms 2 and 3 of Destoroyah where as Heisei would prefer to control the fight by distance with his breath.
Given how easily they were destroyed I see him having some difficulties with Mecha-King Ghidorah and M.O.G.U.E.R.A. Super MechaGodzilla, Destoroyah final form, and SpaceGodzilla would overwhelm and possibly kill him especially if he can't turn 'burning' on without MV-Mothra to stabilize it, which I think would be his best chance against either one of them.
Now I mention Rodan. Yes Heisei Rodan is the weakest of them all and really wouldn’t last against MV, but as Fire-Rodan that is a while different deck of cards. For 1, we dont know what would happen if FR used his uranium beam on MV. We also don't know if FR were to die on MV if it wouldbe able to make him 'burning' or give him the ability of Nuclear Pulse and or the spiral atomic breath like Heisei.
This is all just my opinion on MV vs. HEISEI.
One last thing will Doug go back in stock? Its amazing he sold out in less then a day.
Considering the fact that uranium is a radioactive isotope I think it's safe so it would have little to no effect on MV Goji.
Moguera is more powerful than Super Mechagodzilla, its only downside is worse pilots and not being completely covered by the synthetic diamond alloy. But its weapons are more powerful, like when it accidentally hit Godzilla with a single blast of the chest beam and plasma lasers, Goji got knocked down for several minutes. Meanwhile it took SMG three or so shots from the plasma grenade to knock him down.
MOGUERA was NOT easily destroyed. Space Godzilla's Corona Beam has devastating piercing power and was able to easily floor Goji multiple times while blasting giant chunks out of him in the process. MOGUERA tanked a crap ton of those before losing a single arm. Just MOGUERA's eye beams were able to floor Heisei Godzilla. All the rest of the beam menagerie is has is just icing on the cake. Heck, even being heavily damage it was still mostly intact even after Godzilla blasted the Spiral Beams at it after it was abandoned.
@gabedoeslife471 I almost feel like if a monster were to use a Uranium based attack against MV Godzilla, he would just be amped up due to the Nuclear power of it, so ironically I feel like rather than just doing nothing, it'd just boost his power.
@@tyrannicproductionsif it's stronger than goji then he dies if it's weaker he gets a power up. Say what you want but moguera is definitely more powerful
Monsters live under Godzilla’s command.. but EVERYTHING LIVES UNDER DOUG’S COMMAND!!!
Yyyyeeeeaaaahhhh............ N O .
NAH PRAISE *_THE MIGHTY MINILLA_*
It’s been so long since doug has been seen
doug has no feats lol = weak.
@@CaelMoran-ih9jy you probably can't understand joke right?
*DESTOROYAH IN THE CORNER LAUGHING MANIACALLY: 🔥😈🔥*
*Doug
@@ppparker-sn9tp that joke is dead 💀
@@warriorpredator128 I didn’t ask you for my sense of humor dickhead.
@@warriorpredator128Nuh uh uh
@@warriorpredator128it really is
I fully understand your videos and your way of thinking about those fights because you base on what you see on the movies instead of the feats, but the feats for some kaijus are still important. For example the crystals that spacegodzilla thrown at heisei were stated to move at lightspeed or smth but during the 90's there wasnt enough budget to make a CGI moving projectiles so they made them real but really slower, this means that for some movies (i think from 50's to 90's) the feats are important to be used because they show the capabilities of a kaiju that were supposed to be in the movie but for budget problems they couldnt make
What you see from these movies are feats so you can't separate the two
@@thebigbadrascal3398 true cuz they're showed in a different way for what i said before
@@thebigbadrascal3398 and in the monsterverse every feats Is showed even in the movie
Ex: muto prime having an huge strength because it's showed in the comic
That's the definition of feats
When the heck was THAT ever stated?
I’d love to see this as a series, like “how far would g.earth last in singular point?” “How long would final wars last in the anime trilogy?” Etc.
Goji Earth Slams Entire Singular Pointverse [except goji ultima’s true form thing]
@@SpinoAnimationsYTwith the weak ones
I believe MV Godzilla would stop at Space Godzilla because as we saw in GVK, MV Godzilla’s atomic breath is more powerful than we thought, He burned a hole through the ground using his atomic breath, but since MV Godzilla needs time to charge his atomic breath, Space Godzilla would see that MV Godzilla is charging his atomic breath and would use his crystal shielding to deflect the atomic breath back at him severely injuring MV Godzilla, but if Space Godzilla’s shoulder crystals were destroyed which are the source of his power. MV Godzilla would take him out. Idk how a fight between MV Godzilla and Destoroyah would play out tho.
space godzilla has a emp wave so godzilla gets nerfed also he has telekinesis also he can fly faster than speed of light also the crystals thrown at heisei moved faster than light speed also he can manipulate gravity
Nah, heisei already got a stronger beam than mv godzilla and it barely did shit to spaceG. SpaceG is also very good at brawling lik bro. He is NOT taking out spaceG ANYTIME soon. Crystals at lightspeed is enough fr. Or just manipulate gravity to toss mvG and do the same thing monster zero did by dropping him from high altitude.
@@user-vf2rr3iq7fcan heisei fire a beam into the centre of the earth
@@user-vf2rr3iq7fhell no legendary godzillas base beam is way stronger than heiseis godzilla
@@user-vf2rr3iq7fthere is a reason heisei had too use spiral breath against heisei mechag while legendary godzilla base beam pierced all the way to the hollow earth
Great vid as always🔥💯 and that “Doug solos” at is pure facts. One thing though, u forgot destroyah.
He never made it to dest.
@@GodzillaGuyy fair enough
Destoroyah negs the whole MV with every kaiju and their power levels and abilities combined.
MZ vs Dest is not close at all.
@@MesozoicLad doug solos cry bt it
@@GodzillaGuyyI love the new thumbnail edit, bro. Original looked nice as well, but you used the same Destoroyah pic from another video and MV Goji's eyes just looked too cartoony. This new one though.....sweet perfection!
I respect your opinion about these and ig a fight in itself would be better scalling than real scalljng
an actually interesting kaiju gauntlet video,, well done my friend.
Like Heisei Godzilla in the Monsterverse, Legendary Godzilla got pretty far here. Much further than I expected
Legendary Godzilla is pretty strong, I mean he literally drilled a hole into the core of earth
And he could have taken out Mecha Godzilla in a single hit if he didn’t do the Hollow Quarry
Heisei clear monsterverse, the guy who makes these videos has a massive bias against heisei. Now on the other hand, lego zilla will struggle with even biolante. He might win if he has plot armor
He said that heisei loses to monsterverse mecha zilla (the weakest mecha godzilla) in a fight. Which just states the problem, he kills the monsterverse and barely struggles with king ghidorah
@@TheMayoIsRawHELL NO. Your overestimating his beam💀
@@user-vf2rr3iq7f bro the director of Godzilla vs Kong literally said that what are you talking about
Very interesting how the monster versus Godzilla can pretty much beat all of not most of the heisei monsters. If he can't be space Godzilla by himself then I doubt he'll be destroyah by himself. Also, I'm very curious to know how will the monster verse Godzilla will fare up against the heisei gamera monsters.
Beats any of the Gyaos, maybe wins against Legion if he can shake off her swarm and she continues to have awful aim with her microwave beam, but he will very likely take some major damage, can maybe win against Iris but she definitely has the tools to put the hurt on him.
@@tau-5794 Oh yeah absolutely. I mean I'm pretty sure he can beat all of the gyaos, but I'm more so talking about the super gyaos. I think that version has like venom claws or neurotoxins that could do something to Godzilla. Probably just make him feel drowsy for a few minutes. But I do agree that the mother legion will be the biggest threat out of the three due to her microwave beams and her red rod attack. I'm pretty sure the red rod attack would do damage. That's way worse than her microwave beam, but since Godzilla skin is heat resistant and durable, it might do major damage but not to the point where it may end up killing him.
@matiasshaw2185 The microwave beam is by far more powerful, Legion just has terrible aim while using it. The one time it did hit Gamera, it blasted a huge circular hole straight through his shell with zero resistance, no way its not going to cause some serious harm if it hits Godzilla especially given how much bigger he is than Heisei Gamera.
@@tau-5794 and how durable Godzilla's skin is.
MonsterVerse godzilla should be fine up until probably MechaGodzilla, Biollante and Destroyah.
Remember, in a prequel novel/comic for MonsterVerse, it was shown godzilla some 60 million years ago fighting the shinomura, WHILE the Chicxulub asteroid/Permian extinction/asteroid that wiped out the dinosours hit. Not to mention he was DIRECTLY hit by the asteroid. Straight to the face. And back then he wasn't nearly as evolved/powerful. So he atleast has a durability feat on par with Heisei godzilla (i.e. taking an a smaller asteroid point blank), not the blackhole part though, meaning he wouldn't get fucked over by the heisei era monsters due to lack of durability
2014 version: no.
2017 and onward: hell yes, after Mothra's sacrifice, he's doing fairly well.
Wait what came out in 2017?
I kinda figured MV Godzilla would damn near make it
Same with Heisei In the MV!
@@GodzillaGuyy That's why I say they're evenly matched in most cases
mv would get absolutely fucking shuttered and get hushed by at of the heisei kaiju, sorry to burst your bubble.
@@CaelMoran-ih9jy Nice desperate save bub
@@CaelMoran-ih9jyhell no
People really tend to underestimate legendary godzillas power he could really solo almost every heisei kaiju except for space and dest and maybe smg but in the end doug SOLOS BRO
Edit : I think the heisei fans didn’t like what I said about this
Fun fact : In the next 10 minutes a heisei fanboy is gonna threaten me by telling me to kill myself 😃
nope
@@davidalvarado4668oooo you were just 6 minutes off
you mean people people tend to OVERESTIMATE. Mv goji stops at mothra and battra literally. as both battra and mothra are equals who are said to be capable to stop a planet destroying threat that being a meteor, mv goji hasn't pulles that off.
@@dom9300I respectfully disagree with your opinion sure people overestimate mv goji at times but I’ve seen many people say that he gets clapped by zilla jr or that the weakest heisei era claps him. Also the battra and mothra thing vs mv godzilla is a 50/50 for me since he would struggle a bit
Based godzillaguy for not relying on powerscaling
you can't make a VS scenario without powerscaling, because then it's only biased. like godzilla guy, who clearly haven't a single clue about these movies, even if he watched them he watched them without sound or subtitles. he base his facts what he sees, without looking at statements or looking any deep into it.
Because heisei Ghidorah is featless
@@dom9300 why even reply to dom just stop d riding dom do that
Rodan is like the cheetah in the real world. Put all your stats in speed, forgetting everything else, and getting clobbered by some with more even stats. 😂😂
Have you ever created any of your own kaiju? If so, can you make a video about it?
And now it’s time Can fw Godzilla handle both verses(just through it the other Millennnium era Godzillas)
2:10 Said here is "As in not as agile"
It would be cool if they brought back some Showa and Heisei kaiju, like Biollante.
this is very interesting.
Honestly a double checker burger does well against a cod player but a pink cat would far better then a cactues
I actually think Monsterverse has a shot of clearing it, I agree with nearly everything until the Mechagodzilla, MG has a coating that protects him from beams, but doesn't do jack against physical, the Heisei grabbed him and tossed him into the air, MG was in serious troubles until Garuda came to help him, even against Rodan he lost an eye until he managed to land a point blank plasma grenade, the thing is, Garuda doesn't share the same beam coating since it was initially an entire different project that was discarded in favor of MG until its creator adapted it to work with MG, which means Garuda can easily be shot down (in fact it was in the movie and was down for quite a while that led to the physical confrontations with MG), so a 2v1 is the worst idea they can have since Garuda can be easily shot down and once Legendary realizes beams aren't cutting it he will go physical on MG and MG will be destroyed in seconds (the thing is nothing but an ranged weapons platform, his close combat weapons are non existent). Even against SMG the same can happen, heisei monsters are really slow that why heisei is also called the beam wars, so it was easy for SMG to kite Godzilla, but Legendary is fast as hell, no way he can kite him by hovering slowly side to side like he did.
SpaceGodzilla it really depends if Legendary can pick on his weakness, Heisei picked on it instantly, which implies that the energy flow is perceptible to Godzilla, with Legendary being connected to the planet such flow of energy, heck he could pick Mechagodzilla activations and pinpoint them, he will certainly be pick on it so he has to do the same as Heisei did with the advantage that legendary is faster and finish him with hollow earth driller. And before people come with the Supernovas and black hole argument for Spacegodzilla, it was a theory by some guy that theorized about how Godzilla cells were taken to space by Biollante with ZERO arguments to sustain that theory, later on, the Mothra fairies confirmed that the G-cells were taken to space because of Mothra, not Biollante, so if the guy can't even get the monster right, I seriously doubt he can even figure out how SpaceGodzilla was even formed in the first place. Not to mention his crystals being affected by Moguera's weaponry really puts a gigantic question mark on that supernova and black hole durability.
Destoroyah, it's simple as this, does Legendary gets access to Thermonuclear form? If yes he clears, Destoroyah was weak to high temperatures and low temperatures, just by being close to Thermonuclear Godzilla will inflict tremendous damage, he might not even survive one pulse, at the very best the 2nd pulse obliterates him completely.
If Godzilla doesn't get Thermonuclear he loses unless he manages to catch Destoroyah juvenile form and fry it with a hollow earth driller, if he faces adult he loses, he would need to spam multiple hollow earth drillers just to keep up, he might at best pull 2 in a row, Destoroyah took 3 red spirals from Burning Godzilla, so yeah, no. Agility and speed wont do much here, Destoroyah has that katana horn and that tail that can drain him and he can tank his physical damage, plus the oxygen destroyer beam that Legendary is susceptible.
Mf you high? Dest was only affected by cold. Sure the humans said he was susceptible to heat, but he proceeded to tank 8 infinite spiral heat rays, meaning he resisted 100 million degrees with no reaction. So no those pulses won’t do shit, and dest could just cut Thermo in half with the variable slicer….
@@Jpz-4-5 No reaction lmao, they engaged, Destoroyah physically wrecked Godzilla until Godzilla landed 3 spiral beams on Destoroyah and he had the "no reaction" of starting to spill his guts, being blown apart, spitting blood from his mouth followed by Godzilla going there physically and completely maul him something he was unable to do previously to the point that Destoroyah blew up and divided into his aggregate forms. Later on when facing Godzilla again the same happened, he physically wrecked him until Godzilla landed 3 beams and Destoroyah had the "no reaction" of again having blew parts of him blown off, by the 4th Destoroyah tried to escape until the JSDF blasted him with cryo guns.
So yeah, not sure who's high considering Destoroyah was spilling his guts after 3 beams both times very different from resisting with no reaction, also it was 7 beams not 8 and the last one was more aimed at the ground than to Destoroyah.
@@neonnemesis3267 because that infinite temperature beam hit him in his chest weakspot, if legendary tried that it wouldn’t affect dest, as there’s a massive decrease in Temperature.
@@neonnemesis3267 also he reacted 3 of them. The others he just tanked. That beam would one shot legendary and Thermo. Keep coping ig.
@@neonnemesis3267also dest can just bite legendary, absorb his dna and become a stronger version of him, there’d be no need to though as he already would clap him…
Once the new movie comes out, we would need to redo this, since Monsterverse Godzilla got that upgrade to his base form with the pink color power
You changed so much
You sound like a whole new person sorta
well considering the monsterverse Goji is over 252 million years old with fighting experience and he's a brawling brute
He was evidently asleep for most of that time since the radiation levels were too low, but he has been kicking around for a few thousand years at least closer to the modern day which is definitely a lot more than Heisei being around for only 11 years. Even if we just count the movies for experience, GvK takes place 10 years after 2014 so there really isn't any substantive difference.
Godzilla has no age in the MV. Godzilla awakening isn't canon anymore for 1 and 2 said comic doesn't mention his age. It ONLY mentions the time period. It's like assuming a man in a photo from the year 1941 was 41 years old at the time. Greg Keyes already stated no one at legendary believed godzilla was that old and his age is currently unknown
Here's a thing I have to say
Mv goji's beam has nucleosynthesis which is 14,000,900° and that should instantly BURN SMG's diamond coating so therefore MvG would still win but not insane diff
Nah MV goji's beam is actually 20,000°
@@Gigasoloswell that was his EMP nerfed beam
New results show his beam to be 14,000,900° due to nucleosynthesis
THAT shit gets contradicted a Ton tbh
@@Sr_V2 that's because of the age old phenomenon plot armor
@@user-tc9vy6ws1j That doesn't disprove the feats.
If he doesn't do it feats wise then he can't due it
Statements needs feats to back it up
His Atomic Breath also has different temperatures statements so it changes depending the aource you uae
gonna need to update this for GxK
There is one thing that space Goji and MV Goji don't have in common and that is brains space Goji is pretty stupid compared to MV Goji and we can see in GVK MV Goji out smarts Kong so MV Goji would find away to beat him but against destroyah he may need some help
So that’s why space Godzilla wasn’t the new monsterverse villain
MV Space would dog walk any kaiju
That's probably why Godzilla would need a lot of help.
@@GodzillaGuyy MV space is literally featless and doesn't exist lmao. For all we know he could be fodder.
@@kaijuwaiju3954You do realize, for any version of SpaceGodzilla to EVEN EXIST, he would have to be a Solar-System level threat due to him being created by a black hole.
@@UltronInfinite But the thing is, we don't know how Spacegodzilla will be created in the MV. He could have a completely different origin than the Heisei version. And that's us assuming if he'll appear in the MV at all since as of now it seems like Legendary is staying away from bringing back old Toho monsters and instead creating their own. So MV Spacegodzilla is still featless fodder.
As soon as I heard Space Godzilla I knew it was over.😂
Junior: “Hey dad- WAIT WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU-“
Btw, biollante is immortal and can’t actually die(Heisei goji wasn’t able to actually kill biollante).
I mean if she dies
She would create spacegodzilla with her cells 5 years later lol
Biollante is featless
@@user-ko8xg4nr5o “Biollante is featless”
If Bio is “featless” how was she able to severely weaken and tire out one of the most powerful incarnations of the King of the Monsters and on top of that, survive the encounter. In fact, in Bio’s movie it was stated that she is immortal since she will just transform into her spores and regenerate until she is strong enough.
She didn't weaken Godzilla .Infact Godzilla defeated her with ease I
just watched the fight even if she is immortal she couldn't do anything against mv Godzilla
@@user-ko8xg4nr5o When she was in her weaker flower phase, her tendrils pierced heisei Godzilla’s skin and heisei Godzilla was able to tank his own beam, at 1000x the power and heat, like it was nothing.
Pls do a could Fw godzilla survive the showa era
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I predicted that it was gonna be Doug 😂 3:28
I like when he said “its time to only use logic time” and then proceeded to not use any sort of power scaling and just be biased. It was so inspirational.
bc like he has explained many times, power scaling sucks.
Yea, its why everyone is stupid cuz they dont understand scaling and think its “a waste of time.”
@@pxyg0n128 Fr, powerscaling matters and there's a great video made on it explaining why creators like goji guy that thinks that powerscaling sucks are just blatantly wrong.
@@bullseye4886 Here's what power scaling is. You power scale based off what the characters does in their film, judging a character's strength without scaling them is literally impossible. The reason why we know superman can lift buildings and fly faster than sound is because of scaling, you still gauged a character's strength based on what they can do which is power scaling.
Calculations aren't needed for scaling, they just help get a better idea of how impressive a feat is.
@@rjsblanket3024Yes
Most likely.
He wouldn’t have to fight Mothra or Battra. His job as earth’s protector would convince them not to fight him.
He also has Telepathy so he would be able to tell Biollante he isn’t a threat to her.
Ghidorah is weak and stupid so he shouldn’t have much difficulty beating him.
Super MechaGodzilla is strong but its extremely slow and terrible at close combat so MV has a pretty good chance of beating it.
Rodan is a weakling so Godzilla would destroy him.
SpaceGodzilla is interesting. He is extremely powerful but MV is also really smart so he likely be able to figure out his weakness’s.
Destoroyah is 50/50. He’s super powerful but MV has a extremely hot atomic breath and could possibly defeat him before he gets to much damage.
💀,dest survived the infinite heat ray 3 times,mv doing nothing,space is smarter,but ye he claps the other guys
@@super_productions24 True
i can see all of this happening besides dest, his oxygen destroyer beam would kill mv in a couple of heats. also imo space and super mecha likely beat mv. you forgot mecha ghidorah tho
Nah, king g destroys MV... That noodle neck is around the power of multiple divine moths. He is far from "Weak and stupid" lol. He actually outranks MV ghidorah in a few cases. And this opinion is based off ONLY movies.
@@super_productions24 fr
the spiral heat ray is literally caple of killing spacegodzilla but destoroyah survived it with his durability and regeneration
At least Doug gets his proper respect
Destoroyah be crying not appearing
MV Godzilla is one of those kaijus that's stuck in a hypothetical 'middle-square' area.
Strong to slap the weak, but weak aft against the much higher ones. Sadly, SMG2 also follows this rule.
i like these types of videos , it's like abreak after a lot of debates using scaling.It's really peaceful and brings me back to the time that i just enjoy GodzillaFranchise-related vids , when whoever wins doesn't matter , i've been fun.
good to see GGuy not go into scaling anymore
I don't believe I ever was scaling 😅
@@GodzillaGuyy youre not scaling , but you was gone deep-in scaling , like debunk powerscaling , powerscaling sucks , etc...
@@GodzillaGuyyThis is a perfect time to explain something to you. Why is it...Yeah...That you say it's illogical for bgs beam,to be infinite in heat. But In your "heisei runs the MV gauntlet" you say prime can shatter tectonic plates. If your taking"logic" into an account,then that shouldn't be possible. From what I know, legendary is near 100k tons. While a tectonic plate,weighs 20-40 million tons. So if I'm not mistaken,that should send legendary flying across the horizon. It's doesn't matter how good legendarys footing is if he gets uppercuted.
And on top of this,yeah. You had one guy,just one guy,who asked why you never acknowledged the fact that heisei could with stand black wholes and supernovas. And now his notification bar is over.
I mean,what is going on with Godzilla community now a days.
@@Geezer-gj8pfI agree that scaling matters but what does the last paragraphs have anything to do with this?
@@terredactylus9603 EVEEERRRYYYYTHHHHINNNNGGG
Yo you forgot to mention Godzilla fining against Bagan & Barabori that are cancelled Kaiju in the Heisia, and Desghidorah in the Heisia Mothra movie
Monsterverse Godzilla
embarrasses everyone in the Heisei Era
Except for space Godzilla, Destoroyah
But with evolved form
Man I love being a MonsterVerse Goji geek, but can’t wait for the people to complain how the heisei kaijus scale to a “multiversal lvl”
Heisei era kaijus are damaged by missiles and attacks that do not destroy a single stadium.
@@artyomanoufriev6189 they're not? lol. let's not forget mv goji literally cries whenever hit by missiles.
@@dom9300 In reality the missiles don't do anything to him, that's just part of the plot...
Legendary Godzilla survived a meteorite and a thermonuclear bomb and they did nothing to him.
@@artyomanoufriev6189heisei in later movies
Grew larger by only one nuclear bomb.
Bro down hei sei ghidorah by himslef.
The whole multivetsal bit is kinda wierd, i won't get into it. For sake of being fair, we can use just what we see in the movies to see how well MV would do... And truth be told... He aint even getting past king ghidorah...
Considering How smart Legendary is he can pretty much figure out the only way to beat Super MG is removing his ability of flight cause Heisei MG itself cant do CC. Although as the Video said Heisei MG Durability is a problem.
I really like the way your thinking cause your using their Statistics in the Movie and not by Statement and Feat. Cause feats in the past is really unrealistic at all so I scale them by how they perform in the movie
and before that it'd probably be too late because if his attacks were able to knock heisei godzilla on his ass, it'd spell doom for mv godzilla.
Heisei MG's durability is not an issue in close combat, the synthetic diamond alloy was specifically designed to absorb and deflect atomic energy, so things like beams. But Rodan was more than capable of critically damaging the mecha and we all know he's nowhere near as physically strong as either Heisei or Monsterverse Godzillas.
@@tau-5794so physical attack damage him more which is mv specifically good at remember mv goji won against Kong while using physical attacks sure he might have used his beam but the moment Kong hit him in the head he knew he had to use mostly physical force in order to defeat kong or Kong will just use his beam against him
He won’t be able to figure anything out cause he would be dead already.
Lego zilla one of the smartest zillas, but one of the weakest
Bro, just give Legendary some Taco bell bro, he's gonna fart out that huge ass orange fart
Do Gigan Rex vs (insert any powerful kaiju here) please
I wonder who would win kiryu or Showa mg
As a diehard Kiryu fan. . . Kiryu looses horribly against Showa MG.
Not going by feats or scaling leaves us with their design characteristics, armor and arsenal, of which Showa has Kiryu beaten by a long shot.
To name a few examples:
His shield can block the beams and missiles Kiryu has in store.
Kiryu's Absolute Zero Canon can be easily dodged with Showa's flight and be either countered or stopped midway by forcing Kiryu to miss like Kiryugoji did.
Kiryu's battery wouldn't be helpful for a fight if it drags for too long, he'd have to make every hit count.
Showa's much more durable, his metal is of much higher quality and can withstand the force of a much stronger Godzilla.
@@redmartin6237 good point
@@redmartin6237it's me the annoying scaler that debunks every claim.
Ik you said without scaling.
Mothra and other showa era Kaiju are cannon to the kiryu saga, and as seen in Ghidorah the three headed monster, a singular mothra larvae is able to keep up with Ghidorah before fleeing, taking multiple gravity beams to the face. Those are the same beams that straight up annihilate Venus. Now during Tokyo s.o.s., goji takes in two mothra larvaes and a mothra in her adult stage without much struggle.
This same Godzilla is completely destroyed by kiryu. Kiryu also bends the laws of space time to fire the absolute zero cannon since absolute zero can not move. Kiryu travels at light speed to avoid gojis breath, and finally, kiryu withstand powerful kicks from Godzilla who is an upscaled showa, ap=durability and vise versa, meaning kiryu has the ability to deliver the same blows, and does, easily tossing around and carrying an extremely heavy Godzilla.
Overall kiryu would win with high-extreme dif after the absolute zero cannon is fired. If he fails to use it then he gets destroyed or stalemates until his power goes out.
@singhswings5915
I know of this, but that's kind of my point as well.
Kiryu missing the AZC is pretty much a loss for him, and with how mobile Showa MG is, it's kind of a 50/50 on that regard.
I don't know much of the Kiryugoji saga scaling but as far as I'm aware, it's only a branch of the showa Era and most of the events aren't cannon, meaning that the scaling is not really reliable as the kaiju themselves are a different iteration from their OG counterparts.
It's more of a lack of information and specifics on my end tbh.
But that's kind of the way I scale Kiryu though, everyone is free to have their own pov and arguments on this end.
Though I personally dont agree with the Universal and above scaling for Kiryu though, the only argument a lot of people used with me were ludicrous highballs of the AZC and using the Showa Branch to put Kiryu above Godzillas like Heisei without as much as a source or any solid media, you explained it better than most people and I'm thankful for that.
Apologies if I seem like a fanboy with this one.
this was 4 months ago why are people still talking about this?
Just to kill curiosity
Who would win ?
MV godzilla or destoroyah
Giant crab wins
Dest High Diff (I think Space Would dog walk dest)
dest no-low diff.
Dest no diffs this, like no trying at all here. Using just movies its pretty clear that while yes... Dest has a less than idea fighting style... Its just too overall strong to lose this. Not to mention you need some good AOE to kill it since its made of MICROSCOPIC creatures
Dest no diff, Mv almost died to the oxygen destroyer, Destroyah is the incarnation of it, so you tell me 💀
3:30 LETS GOOOO
please do Could Kong Survive in the Heisei Era
I feel that there is gonna be a lot of hate comments on this vid though im commenting before it starts I can tell just because when newer power scalers or battle analyzers. Fall into this pit of “heisie solos all universe and legendary sucks” I fell into their traps as well because it’s the only thing I knew not enough people go against popular ideas and use their own logic and reasoning thank you g guy
Just a matter of time
@genbugoji_rex why is this important to the comment
@genbugoji_rex where in my comment dose it say where I rank the two gojis
@genbugoji_rex little boy maybe if you saw the quotes you can see that that is the general theory and I am condemning it because it is a shared view and everyone uses the same evidence and reasoning unlike goji guy I never stated my opinion
Power scaling was always on the lesser popular side of things, you make it sound like most liked it.
Here's what power scaling is. You power scale based off what the characters does in their film, judging a character's strength without scaling them is literally impossible. The reason why we know superman can lift buildings and fly faster than sound is because of scaling, you still gauged a character's strength based on what they can do which is power scaling.
Calculations aren't needed for scaling, they just help get a better idea of how impressive a feat is.
biollante and destroyah would obviously be the 2 to give him the most problem, mainly because legend godzilla hasn't fought anything like it, destroyah would be the hardest, it took burning godzilla to defeat it, but since legend has proven to be probably about as atrong or stronger then burning(going by godzilla vs kong) the fight might go abit faster, also it feels like you're simping for space godzilla, HARD, and apparently so is everyone else
Realistically, MV Godzilla has no way to get past the Photon Reactive Shield so using his Atomic Breath isn't really an option and Space Godzilla's telekinetic abilities makes close combat quite difficult.
Uh. No. Legendary Godzilla doesn't come anywhere close to Burning Godzilla in terms of power.
@@orga7777now that mv godzilla has evolved well just have to wait and see his feats in the next movie
I have an idea do shows and milenium Godzilla if they switched places
Godzilla guy its having a very cute face
Heisai fans are gonna be mad about this one 😂
Oh well, if they are so upset, they can just stop watching the video!
@@GodzillaGuyy Exactly lol
@@GodzillaGuyyi mean im not upset, im a fan of heisei but instead of getting mad i decided to go your route. Looked at the movies alone, no other sources, no stupid power scaling either...
Just logic... And the movies, and well, MV aint even getting past king ghidorah... He will be able to put up a good fight, but will lose...
The vid was great, and im not mad and respect your stance... But even by your logic... MV does not even clear king ghidorah suprizeingly.
@@GodzillaGuyy i guess you only talked about logic, yeah mv beats some of heisei kaiju in logic, but feats-
yeah he's dead
@@SpaceWafflerYT Fr
Im pretty sure bio should be before Ghidorah,you said least to greatest. Bio is a bloody unit. She aint getting trumped by heisei rodan.
Also how does legendary make it past battra he was literally able to destroy a planet busting meteor in his adult form. Legendary shouldn't even mske it past bio. She was able to have her vines go straight threw heisei.
Blowing up a meteor isn't the same thing as fighting. Battra was pinned by a Ferris Wheel.
Biollante's problem is that she has serious problems with beam spammers. Rodan COULD win if he stays in the air and just blasts away. If he gets close, that is when Bio can win. I would say it could go either way.
@@orga7777 Blowing up a meteor that has the magnitude to completely obliterate a planet is basically an automatic. And battra was weakened by heisei Wich is why he couldn't get up.
Bro tf you even talking about Mv slaps heisei tbh . And now he's even stronger and more evolved in 2024 gxk .
@@Hatchetz Bio literally fought on par with heisei who can destroy earth if he wanted.
NO WAY THIS WAS MADE HALF A YEAR AGO, TIME DOES NOT GO BY THAT FAST BRO
Thermo rn: im bouta blow
I would like to point out that MV Godzilla is pretty much the same as ultimate Godzilla.. so his feats are significantly greater.. Ghidorah was actually meant to be the peak of any kaiju.. and his purpose was to feed on Godzillas.. Ghidorah was called the dominator of the universe (I can't remember) and Godzilla was called the king of destruction. And depending on how long he lives, he grows and evoles drastically. I can't say for sure, but MV Godzilla will eventually outscale any heisei kaiju
I would like to see heisei mecha g trying to destory legendary's second brain and then it not working leading to the both of them getting confused mecha would be like wtf why didn't die and legendary going ew what a weirdo
i thought monsterverse would make it to destroyah but guess not
also i really like that doug figure
2:09 I like the part where I have enough time to read the text
As in not as agile
Doug is the strongest monster from all Godzilla movie monsters
Scaling has existed the chat:
Without scaling I agree 100% but
Scaling is there for a reason
Scaling is there for the reason that neckbeards want to defend their favorite characters and will come up with any miniscule bit of irrelevant author statements or secondary, non-canon material to highball those characters.
I think now with the evolution he did in GXK it might be better for him
Looks like my prediction was correct
First of all how is biollante the first? It's literally the strongets heisei kaiju. He'd get ezzed by biollante, biollante can easily harm mv godzilla and kill him off, and heisei godzilla never even won that fight, biollante won against him at the end so idk what ur talking about. Battra is equal to mothra who took an asteroid that could destroy the earth without getting knocked out so she ezzes too.
Biolante had very little defense against the atomic blast.
@@brickosaurus2276 not true lol. She was only harmed when Godzilla hit her weak points, and she quickly healed.
@@thebigfurious-ghidorahanim5672 All it would take would be a well placed blast.
@@brickosaurus2276 and that would just make her spit some acid that will kill Godzilla, he can’t kill her with a blast. Heiseis breathe is much more powerful
很多人似乎忘了植物怪獸的觸手可是能直接貫穿平成的左爪與左肩 同時噴灑的酸液是極強的腐蝕性強酸 能輕易溶解鑽石與鋼鐵 這也是平成在第二次對戰時馬上使用熱線清除長達超過1000米長的觸手 第一次戰鬥已經有經驗到不先清楚掉這些觸手（尤其帶嘴的）會在戰鬥裡造成多大的麻煩 並且這些觸手的力量足以扯倒89的平成
我不認為傳奇的外皮能比平成的外皮強大多少 沒有清除觸手 傳奇最擅長的搏鬥沒有意義 只能用熱線 但是植物怪獸可是會動的...加上觸手的纏繞、突刺還有帶嘴並且能噴酸液的帶嘴觸手的襲擾 我不認為傳奇的戰鬥反應會比平成優秀
甚至漫畫的平成都有把這個對手連根拔起的壯舉
並且傳奇的部分技能 更多都是致敬平成這位上個世紀的年代的前輩 並且還是用CG作出來的電影 在視覺感官上當然比皮套戲服來的好 但不影響平成年代的怪獸本身設定與表現出來的實力或是牠們的壯舉
Legendary Godzilla can only really kill the low end kaiju within the Heisei Era, such as the Moth Duo, Rodan, and King Ghidorah (since he was, in all honesty, not that much of a threat compared to his Legendary counterpart.)
Biollante could beat Legendary Godzilla because of her tenedrils. You've seen what Ghidorah's heads can do--he has alot of trouble with trying to fend off three heads at once. Now imagine about four + her actual main head, and that isn't including the actual tenedrils without jaws with can restrain him. Brute strength wise, she has him beat--the only thing Legendary Godzilla might have against her is his atomic breath, but then it maybe kinda becomes moot when she could still constantly restrain him, or keep his jaws shut / strangle him. (Which I wanna mention, I disagree with G. Guys opinion, but still respect it regardless) I'd say in this regard it's a bit of an even fight, hard to decide a victor imo.
Super Mecha-Godzilla wins more times than he loses to the Big G, as he could easily just fly up and hover around him to constantly barrage him with lasers and the like, like he did with Heisei Godzilla. Unless he closes the gap REALLY fast, and since the pilots are humans and not automated--is probably unlikely (unless they're stupid), he doesn't really win given his durability and insane firepower that he doesn't really have any sort of way to counter.
Space G and Destroyah are uh, pretty self-explanatory he isn't winning against either--way too out of his league.
Overall while I disagree with some points, great video!
Plus Biollante never died, she just left. She went into orbit around Earth. Then Mothra flew into space, taking some of Biollante's cells with her... and... voila, Space Godzilla.
@@Monkeydad1969oh wow really? Damn how the hell did I not know this lol
This 🗿
Good job explaining the facts! No unnecessary bias or hate sent to the other party. This is exactly what Aristotle had in mind.
Imagin godzilla earth… bro would just do one stomp and BAM
Ok edgy
Yes and he’s hoeing Superman rn. No discussion even… Still an interesting video.
He obliterates Biollante, Mothra & Battra. MechaGodzilla is also scrapped because MV Goji doesn't waste time like Heisei does.
SpaceGodzilla vaporises Legendary Godzilla with minimal effort yet it would be the exact opposite case against Destroyah, all those weaknesses to extreme temperatures & what else not added on with overall stiffness and tendency to fool around.
No he doesn't lmao. Biollante is going to strangle the hell out of MV before he even gets to her. And Goji Guy got something wrong in this video. Biollante CANNOT die. Multiple times in her debut film it was stated that she was immortal and that she literally couldn't die. So there is no way at all that MV is winning against Biollante. Mothra and Battra have both been stated to have the power to destroy a planet busting meteor. This would mean that they have the power to destroy entire planets. MV Goji isn't gonna win against the two lmao, even if they weren't teaming. And MG is folding MV. One shot from the Plasma Grenade and MV is burnt to a toast.
@@kaijuwaiju3954 One, Biollante's tendrils are slow & weak as hell MV will see them coming from miles away.
Two, if Bio is immortal how come Godzilla beat her in the first place?
Three, the heisei era often rellies on statements to justify how weak everything looks on screen.
Four, MechaGodzilla takes too long to do anything with people having to say stuff and plan whatever in order to get something done against a Godzilla who just stands around and roars at his target a bunch before actually attacking.
@@HorrorGodzilla54Heisei has no statements, His physical strength alone threw biollante in the manga and Heisei mg on screen, Manga is heisei godzilla and there is only one heisei that is the movie version and manga version.
Im an Mv fan but i dont over hype G19 but as is it stated in the lore a Meteor Hit era th that forced Godzilla underground which means Godzilla survived a Asteroid Strike but in 1954 the Hiroshima and nagasaki bombings somehow affected him making him resurface.
@@elijahmiguel6354 Excuse me, You think I'm downplaying heisei? Let me make it understanable so that you know what I meant, I wasn't downplaying heisei and I was downplaying MV goji more than anything, the guy said heisei is weak without statements so I did say heisei has no statements, Heisei is strong as goji earth (definitely a lie)
Obviously we all know even Zilla jr claps the shit out of MV goji, Heisei does have statements but that doesn't mean he is a fodder without statements.
Basically what I meant by that is he is not weak without statements.
No.
Everything in the MV so far is weaker than 1984 Heisei (first appearance).
In that film alone, Heisei lifted a mile long island and erased it. He also wiped the entire Tokyo coastline in one sweep of his breath…140+ km in about a second.
Worse, in the next film we find out his regeneration is so strong, it can regrow an entire kaiju from one cell overnight.
So no, nothing in the MV, even whack Prime mis-scaling based on not understanding what a supershear earthquake is, is beating anything in Heisei.
Legendary might have a chance against Biollante, because of how effective heat is against plants. But if he gets grabbed, it is over, considering Biollante could restrain a Godzilla that lifted an entire island.
It only gets worse from there, considering all the later Heisei kaiju scale to Heisei, who broke through the Earth's crust and sunk down into the mantle in Godzilla vs Mothra Battle for Earth and he ignored a global altering meteor in his sleep.
Invoking SpaceGodzilla and his black hole and supernovae stuff is not even necessary.
Legendary gets consistently wrecked by building level garbage in every single film he has been in.
Showa Godzilla could arguably 1v1 solo the entire Monsterverse.
MV is still the weakest mainstream version of the series ever put to film.
Even the super X2 he might loose to. really depends if Mv goji starts the battle by beaming first or not. mv goji could prob win if he decides to go full melee.
but if he starts by beaming he's done for, since it would just mirror his breath by 1000x, which would be overkill.
@dom9300 Yes, I agree.
However, the Super X travel at the speed of sound, so they would never even be hit by Godzilla at all.
And yea, considering Legendary got floored by Mechagodzillas beam, which marginally overpowered his own, reflecting it back at 10,000x its force would casually one shot him.
*Edit:* unless he can just absorb it. His breath is mostly radiation, which he has shown he can absorb at the speed of light (radiation is light speed) when he was instantly healed from near death to beyond full health by a nuclear bomb.
So at best, it would be a stalemate, with Legendary being unable to touch the Super X and X2
The X3, however, would one-shot with a ULT ray capable of freezing Burning Godzilla solid.
@@justarandomhomosapienhere7169your downplay for legendary is insane he scales to plantery now not island
@MvGodzillaWithPrepTime There is no downplay on my end.
In his first film, he got downed by a falling building.
He got his bones shattered by getting screamed at, which cannot get any louder than 194 decibels in Earth's atmosphere. Which is around 11 decibels above what it takes to kill a human.
He almost died from a fall that "destroyed" an intersection...making it multi-block.
He got wrecked by getting *pushed into buildings* by Mechagodzilla _(which is so low that it's virtually unheard of in the entire franchise)._
Yea, there is nothing at all here above building or multi-block level.
His planet bore is high island-low country level. Him drilling through the Earth caused less damage to the planet than sticking a needle through an apple.
Planetary is completely out of the question. He is less than a millionth of the way there
Imagine the Monsterverse Destoroyah look like if he into the Showa Era so I got one Could Legendary Monsterverse Destoroyah Survive The Showa Era
I want you to do can kiryu survive in neon genesis evangelion
I kept geting blinded by the godzilla beaming the scree
can you do heisei gamera vs any godzillathat not over power him
Agree with all of this.
everyone is saying he forgot destoroyah, legendary lost to space before he could fight him so yeah
The next villan kaiju in later mv movie is most likely to be space Godzilla or destoroyah but its not confirmed so we'll wait and see
Vid idea: Can MV Godzilla survive Singular Point?
Just one question, if this isn't a power scaling vid, then what is this soposed to compare???
The way he said destroyah
Am I’m making fun of you heck nah
When did they change the thumbnail? Its even more heated 😤
What about like mothra, fire Rodan, mecha king ghidorah, Destoroyah, or is there another video?…
I can't wait to see showa godzilla survive the monsterverse
I'd say Shimo would do well in the Heisei Era, her ice breath would be pretty effective on most of the monsters, I can see her having the most difficulty with either Mechagodzilla, Fire Rodan or Space Godzilla
I think a lot of people underestimate how smart Legendary Gojira really is. With creatures like Biollante, she's not winning. Period. All it takes is for Big G to make the connection that *Biollante is a big. Fucking. Tree.* Then it's wraps and free eats for the King of the Monsters. We all know what happens in her debut movie. She got got by an exaggerated Kiss of Death. Did... did you all forget that Big G made that one of his finishing moves?
Space Godzilla can fly, he has a crystal spawn power, and a telekinetic lightning breath. Translation: Oh no, it's Zesty Kevin. Whatever will we d---Tackle him to the ground and bully him like it's middle-school after Nuke-pulsing the crystals to shrapnel.
The only. *ONLY* threat on that roster is Destroyah, and that's still gonna be a hell of a fight for one reason: Heisei Burning G and Legendary Burning G work in two completely different ways.
FUN FACT: The thumbnail is updated and is 100\10
Can you do Heisei Godzilla in the Showa Era
Here is the true question. What form is Monster versus Godzilla in when he is fighting these monsters? Is he in the 2014 form Godzilla King of the Monsters or Godzilla vs Kong or this upcoming movie GodzillaxKONG?
Man, Destroyah got skipped, I wouldn’t take that
00:51 I think it would end this way but a lil more force remember that Heiseis breath is more hot
What about godzilla vs Destroroyah
Me personally think space would only have a tough time if mv closed the gap, as he would maul every kaiju in melee.
if he has crystals he is fine
he can throw godzilla with his tail
Have a great day
fully powerd up fw mv and heisei vs mz, kizer gihdorah+monster X and dest