Father of Parkland shooting victim reacts to ex-school officer found not guilty
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2023
- Manuel Oliver, the father of Parkland shooting victim Joaquin Oliver reacts to comments made in a media interview by Scot Peterson, the former school resource officer who stayed outside during the February 2018 massacre at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida after being found not guilty on all charges. #CNN #News
The guys purpose was to stand between the school and an attacker. He didnt even try.
I don't think a cops purpose is to be a human shield.
@@marymay7150ge got a gun. Used it
@@marymay7150 To protect the kids! Yes it is!!!
Exactly. How often do we hear “the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun”? When the so-called ‘good guy with a gun’ fails to do the job he’s there to do, does that prove that the trope is a lie or that he was negligent? It has to be one or the other.
@@LiudiSL80pistol vs an assault rifle…
Well done for giving this gentleman the time to speak uninterrupted.
yeah !!! it's so important !!!
I don't agree with some of his points here, but it would have been cruel and a mockery to cut him off.
I think the point this grieving father made is very important. Just quietly leave.
Blaming someone that isn't the shooter is some real unhinged thinking
Gee how about the prosecution not drag him through a show trial on trumped up charges for things that aren't even close to a cirme in the first place. Sorry the show trial didn't go his way, you don't get to shut the defendant up because it didn't work out. Frankly the prosecutor should be brought up on prosecutorial misconduct charges for trying a case with no rational basis in law. Law being what she is supposed to be guided by as opposed to pure politics.
@@agoogleuser3808Wow! You must have a lot of time in your hands.
@@edith9268 Or (Here's another thought) maybe allow the teachers to arm and protect themselves AND the kids?!! Instead of being lead to slaughter by your "Gun Free Zones"...
It’s a free world he can do what he wants, who the hell are you to tell him how to behave control freak!
If there had just been a brave guy with a gun that day. Instead of a coward with a gun.
Now imagine if there was no guns. Oh wait that goes against that amendment...
So much for the _"good guy with a gun"_ talking point.
@@PauloRibeiro1978 "imagine if there was no guns" The armed security guard wouldn't have been needed, like in all other civilized countries.
@@PauloRibeiro1978 Have you ever heard of knives, bombs, planes or automobiles?
I'm sure his son was an amazing kid. A man filled with dignity and justice. Very heartbroken but he is one of the strongest men I've ever seen
Seriously, best man??? Literally be better dude . How did you fuck that up?
@blueanonsaredumb5156 The media use tragedy to push more and more and more and more gun control, the truth is government doesn't want us to remain a free people, if a government can disarm its people then the government will genocide its people, that's why I joined the National Rifle Association for gun rights, every human being has the human rights to protect themselves, and no government will tell me that I can't do that, that resource officer in that school did not have the proper training to deal with that situation, if I could be a armed security officer in any elementary school I would do it in a heart beat, because I have active shooter training. Infact all armed security officers must have active shooter training, that way they will be able to react the right way, and take out the mass murderers. Disarming law Biding citizens is not the correct answer to this problem, if every law Biding citizen was disarmed today the mass murdering will continue and be 100,000,000,000 times worse. An armed society is a free society, a disarmed society is an enslaved one.
@@blueanonsaredumb5156trump supporter clown 🤡
Every word he says is accurate. He's super smart; he chooses his words carefully. He's not just angry and grieving; he's also super smart.
@MazesSA-sj7rz I back the blue, but there is no excuse whatsoever what that officer did, he chose to go and hide like a coward, when you put on the uniform to protect and serve this nation well goddammit you better fucking do it, or don't serve at all.
No one should be celebrating...this is a tragedy on all accounts. I agree with the father. No celebration here
Gee then how about the prosecution not bring the trumped up completely nonsensical charges in the first place? Sorry the blatantly obvious and legally utterly absurd show trial didn't work out. You don't get to shut the defendant up anyway.
@@agoogleuser3808Hmm. May you please explain more?
@@MazesSA-sj7rz Or, just take on the responsibility to protect yourself...
I agree with you, he wasn’t the shooter, the fathers anger is misplaced, dad go make a difference for the death of your kid, bitterness will kill you! You can be bitter or be better, it’s your choice, blaming will get you nowhere!
@@debra6513look I understand where you’re coming from but he lost his child can only imagine being in his shoes
I guess I can't put myself in his shoes. As a 73 year old man, I raised 5 children, have 17 grandchildren, and 17 great grandchildren, and haven't had to suffer through the loss of any of them, thank God. But I can imagine the pain he is feeling, and can understand his anger. I can only hope that I pass before having to bury one of my own.
@MazesSA-sj7rz Back who? That coward. Real cops run towards danger while everyone runs away.
Don't worry in the GOP future utopia your children and their children's children will... All for true freedom
u got too many kids lmao
@@0shadowgrace0 Yeah, once my family learns how to do something... 😂
@@TribblepuppyThat is way too many kids man 😂 but glad you didn’t have to go through what the father did 🙏
My heart is so sad for the victims and the pain of their families.
If you really want someone to blame you really need to look at the parents of Nicholas Cruz. This all started at home with how he was raised.
Sadly there is plenty of blame to go around. Peterson deserves part of that blame. He saved his own life because he failed miserably to do his job. I hope it haunts him.
It will only haunt you!
@@debra6513are you 5?
He was adopted. He went for psychiatric assessment while at school, but estate- financed resources couldn't even follow through properly with that. The adoptive parents probably did what they could, but when first the father and then the mother passed away, there was nobody left to check on him.
@@LisaSimpsonRules his adopted mother did everything necessary according to Mr. Schater. 😊
Once coward... Always coward! Not guilty is meaningless!
No it's pretty much the main thing, but thanks for playing.
But, only a “good guy with a gun” can stop a bad guy with a gun. So, how did this happen?
The good guy with a gun was a coward.
when people realize humanity means owning up to being bad and good, it just means we’re human and we have to make solutions to avoid PEOPLE HAVING GUNS. Look at Japan.
Simple there was no good guy with a gun in the school. Police have NO DUTY TO PROTECT YOU. A "good guy with a gun" refers to an armed person ALREADY IN THE SITUATION. You think police are going to risk their lives going into a situation like this to protect you??? Dream on. They have no legal duty to and frequently do not. So, you go right ahead and depend on the Peterson's in uniform to protect you, let me know how it goes. I personally won't even distract myself calling them until I have already eliminated the threat. They can come take a report after the fact. They're good at that.
He didn’t know where Cruz was
The good guy with a gun didn't feel like doing his job
S.P. ...he stayed outside, he didn't even try to confront the shooter and draw the shooter's attention. Away from the children and teachers.
like he knew where the shooter was
@@ak9989 follow the gun shots.
@@ak9989 like he actually gave a sh*t about the students and the teachers.
Yeah legally he can do that. He has no legal duty to protect any of them. Welcome to reality.
@@RonStanekdid you watch the trial? Many witnesses testified that it was an echo chamber and it sounded like shots were coming from many directions.
Being QUIET & HUMBLE was my thoughts exactly sir!! The resource officer& lawyer display & speech was disrespectful , cowardly and tone deaf in my opinion
Right -- it was atrocious
If you felt your beliefs strongly enough, how is it wrong to be happy and relieved? He was facing life in prison. If you think it's the responsibility of police to protect you, you're wrong. No matter how many laws you pass, you will never legislate the criminals! Get real. If you outlaw all weapons, only the criminals will have weapons!!
It's tone "deaf."
AGREE 100%
Did you watch ONE SECOND of trial testimony?
I didn't think so. They just tried to wrongfully convict him, and he's supposed to stay shut forever? And ever? His lawyer did a tremendous job. One of the best trial attorneys in south Florida, he took this case pro bono. Did you know that? Of course not. Peterson called him and asked to meet and the lawyer said NO, that he doesn't wish bad but believes him guilty. Peterson reminded him, you always ask jurors to keep an open mind and base your decisions on the evidence yet you're not doing it yourself. Lawyer says, you know what? You're right. Lawyer meets and is stunned that the deputy is factually innocent. Takes the case. You really think its for notariety? He ven admitted when he gets an acquittal in this case he will attacked relentlessly by folks who don't bother to review the evidence. People like you.
If you can't handle the job don't do it. He could have stopped many children from being killed. There is an oath to protect and serve.
Yeah but that oath is worth nothing. Not saying that rhetorically, saying it legally.
You weren’t there you don’t know that he could have just been another fatality, Thou shalt not judge, let that deep into your minuscule brain!
Another CNN snowflake who failed to spend one minute watching the actual trial. After all that evidence and yet in your brain he's STILL guilty?? Did you know that his Browser radio wasn't even connected to the 911 system in that area? Calls went to Coral Springs PD. Fact. He had no clue what was even happening and that was proven. And what came over the school radio was the following:
Shots in the football field
Shots in a 500 car parking lot, 300 yards in the opposite direction
Shots in the 700 building
Shots in the 1200 building
Shots in the 1300 building.
Shots in the courtyard.
These are radio transmissions that came over yet according to YOU, he should have "gone in to save lives". Ok, where? Football field? That was put over the air by multiple deputies from Broward. Again, Broward could only talk with each other and were NOT receiving the 911 calls.
So where should he have gone?
@@debra6513what is the point of a gun then? To break up a shoving match between two kids? To walk an unruly kid to the principle office? To tell the soccer mom she can’t park in the no parking zone? Guess the gun is just a scare tactic.
Okay so why did the cops who were much closer take cover like Peterson despite having real time info about the shooters location (and never once relayed that info to Peterson)
If the kids, teachers, and administrators go through the “drills” what does the SRO do - what kind of training does he get.
It is so sad that American's think it is acceptable to have police at a school, this doesn't happen in any other developed country. Do we really love guns so much more than our children?
Scot Peterson and his family's reaction was so inappropriate. I'm so sorry for your loss Mr. Oliver.
So not only can the prosecutor engage in blatant prosecutorial misconduct by bringing a case against him she knows has no rational legal basis, but he is supposed to just STFU about it after the prosecutor gets trounced 11 to 0. Sorry you don't get to control the outcome when the showtrial, which is what this was, doesn't go your way.
@@agoogleuser3808 yes!!
Its not only the 17 families whose lives were lost,it's all those who were shot up and now have to live with the nightmare of Parkland for the rest of their days with the permanent scars mentally and physically. Who is to say how many lives this officer could have saved, the sad part he didn't even try. The only thing I see him crying for is himself, but this wasn't justice.
The only justice would be for a parent to take care of it ! No court was going to convict him!
No court in Florida!
DeSantis response; make it easier to get a gun 😢
@@johndowner2196 No, it doesn't. It had no effect on the process of buying a gun on Florida.
@@kenmahoney5255 Because he wasn't guilty of any crime.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun, is not to sell him a gun in the first place!
Tell that to the dead in Kenosha that we're run down with a SUV!
What stops a bad guy with a knife like the killer is Moscow?
How'd that work at Sandy Hook where the killer simply stole his gun or for the poor unarmed helpless fools in Idaho that died crying as they were cut up with a knife? How about the people in Kenosha run over by an assault SUV? Better get some knife and assualt vehicle control eh? Tell you what little buddy, you rely on cops like Peterson to protect YOU. You let me know how that works out.
That just stops him from using a gun. Doesn't stop him from doing harm. Dumb argument.
As a teacher, a school resource officer's job is not that of a first responder. He was not trained to, nor was he armed to diffuse an armed former student who snuck into the building and commenced opening fire on students with a high capacity weapon shooting military rounds. His greatest effectiveness and contribution would come in the way of staying safe and prviding accurate information to the officers being sent that are trained for that. I understand that that father is upset, but the actions of the shooter is not the fault of the officer. The officer should show immense remorse for the lives that were loss. He also has every right to be elated about his exoneration for the crime that he'd been indicted and tried for.
His situation is not like the inaction of the Uvalde officers, in any way.
Mr. Oliver was so right, Peterson and his atty should have kept their dawn mouths shut after verdict and walked out in silence!
It was insensitive towards the parents. But maybe they wanted to shit on the prosecutor for his stupid legal stunt? Like as an act of revenge by mocking him?
Manuel Oliver I understand. More school policing is not the solution. This country shouldn't even have to do that. Only in America. 😖 I cannot imagine what Manuel must feel.
Well wave your magic wand and click you heels three times and see if you can solve it. You're so worried about a cause of death that's not even 1% of total mortality (about 0.7% in most years) so get on fixing it.
@@agoogleuser3808 The fact that it's children and that fact that the US can't get it together is an embarrassing as your response.
@@soniagalindo7589 The fact the the criminal ignored the Gun Free Zone and the teachers (and thus the children) are defenseless is lost to you isn't it?!
I can’t imagine what the family and friends of these victims are going through and have gone through! But I also can’t imagine what it would be like to be a first responder in the situation. I would hope my training would kick in and I would do my job, but you never know what you’re going to do in a situation like that, how you’re going to react, and if you’re able to react or not. So we don’t celebrate him as a hero, but should we condemn him like a murderer? I don’t know if I have the answers. I’m not sure what I would do in that circumstance. you don’t think this guy feels guilt about his in action? He’s gonna live with that the rest of his life. I’m mad at the shooter, I’m mad at the people who claimed these shootings were fake or false flags, I am mad at the politicians, who refuse to do anything to protect children in school or any of us.
Well said
What. He did not even try to DO HIS JOB. That is precisely what he was hired to do. FFS. There must be accountability or this continues.
Then you should be mad at the democrats for staging these fake shootings just so they can push there anti second amendment agenda and their communist ideology
How are politicians suppose to protect schools if you have officers who don't do what they are suppose to? Politicians rely on law enforcement to enforce the law and stop criminals. Politicians can't actually do anything.
What are they going to do make guns illegal so civilians have to rely on law enforcement who are not required to protect them?
Peterson did precisely that... He refused to act & protect others & put protecting himself above them.
Safety is an illusion...
Manuel... You're an inspiration as always 💟
It’s unfortunate that cowardly people choose a career in law enforcement like this guy and the cops in Uvalde Texas
Sickening idk how they don’t persecute him. Now this coward made a precedent for others. Maybe Uvalde should hire him as captain
Meanwhile the video that just surfaced body cam of the recent mall shooting the cop ran right over to the shooter and blew him away. That's the type of cop we needed
and didn't get here. Instead we got a useless baby coward piece of s-===t.
Police shoot unarmed people all the time because of fear. How can you expect them to be brave just because kids involved ?
Maybe he can get a job in the Uvalde PD
Cowardly people are every where and all around us - some disguise themselves as talking brave until the shooting starts - then the coward comes out.
My condolences to the father and the other families that lost they’re kids 🙏🕊️
And my condolences to the deputy, HIS family, and for the horror CNN put him through for years. Convicting him in public stories, and now acting shocked.
@@putnamcountycrimeanalysiswandr What deputy?
What the f is prayers gonna do?
If he had done something! Just moved a little bit, hell just fire a couple shots at the damn building. He did nothing at all....
As a teacher, I receive active shooter training every year. I keep my doors locked, every day, all day, I have blinders on my doors, I arrange my classroom so that my students can have space to take cover if needed. We have two school resource officers who are in charge of that active shorter training, and, absolutely, we rely on them to help us, myself and my students, not to feel like sitting ducks. It’s shameful that so many of the comments I read online are faulting the parents for their “blood lust.” Regardless of your opinion on the verdict, most of us will never understand how the grief in a tragedy like this will affect us. A “victory” in this case is not, nor will it ever, be a reason, to forget the victims of this tragedy: 17 beautiful lives lost.
Oh, this poor father 🥺. Heartbreaking
The simple truth here is the victims and their families are owed accountability and they got it when the shooter was tried and convicted. This man is NOT responsible for the deaths of the children. Plain and simple.
In the U.K. we don’t have Police Officers in Schools
Heartbreaking for the parents who repeatedly and continue to be victimized
They just want fair justice!
Their families are torn apart & Peterson could have helped if he did his job. He failed & innocents died.
@@WendyRichards-uq3cu no disagreement .. children and their parents continue to be the canon fodder of a system that preferences access and ownership of weapons over the lives and freedom of people to live unthreatened lives.
You mean the "Gun Free Zone" didn't protect the kids?!! The lie that somehow a sign would protect their kids?!
@@WendyRichards-uq3cu He couldn't have saved anyone. He would have been killed before he ever had a chance to get to the shooter.
Gary ...So very true. Our priorities are disgraceful.
It is hard when you lose a loved one. I understand what they are going through.
“To Protect and to Serve” became the official motto of the Police Academy. Perhaps this needs to be changed to “To Protect and to Serve Themselves.”
I'm pretty sure SCOTUS ruled that law enforcement have no duty to protect you in 2005. He could've legally quit right on the spot and walk out, and he'll be protected. Even in the midst of a mass shooting. Involuntary Servitude is also illegal, forcing him to protect you is servitude. He terminate his employment at anytime and anyplace even in an emergency and it would be legal.
Every relevant case has decided that but the state thought it could do an end run around that with it's care giver and child neglect nonsense. It failed. He doesn't need to teriminate any employment. Police have no duty to protect anyone not in their custody at any time. Castle Rock V Gonzales, Warren v DC, the list goes on.
It’s time to sue for civil damages. I agree with Mr. Oliver. If Scott Peterson, or his lawyer, had any class, they would’ve walked out of there in solidarity of the victims. I don’t understand how a police officer with decades of experience, who tried to restrict law-enforcement from doing the job that he refused to do can hold his head up and talk about his life and getting his life back. Why don’t you just go piss on the graves of all of the victims because essentially that’s what you did.
That ex cop will have to live the rest of his life knowing he is a coward
At least he gets to do that from outside of a prison
Right!
I agree...that officer was a disgrace to all others who would have run toward the chaos to stop the assault....sad
Nobody wins. Its just awful all around. The accused had a human response to an unhuman situation. The parents who lost their children in school shootings are so broken and are ready to set the world on fire. Their pain is untouchable.
Peterson had no business being police if he was more interested in being a coward. He swore an oath to protect others!
Well said.
that is not a human response, it is a cowardly reaction to duty. big difference. no way should he get his pension. he should be in jail.
Are we redefining wtf the police are for ?
Very well said, no one knows how they will react to this situation unless it happens to you, Dad, blaming will get you nowhere!
This father is surprisingly reasonable in understanding the jury verdict. Unlike soldiers, the police are legally entitled to desert and run away. So, it was the legally correct decision to apply the law consistently in this case
I understand that they are legally entitled to do that, but I don't believe one who deserts like that is following the proper ethics of policing and thus ineligible for employment in that field. They're instincts aren't suited to the field.
I thought the police are there to serve and protect. Perhaps they need to change their slogan. Serve and protect themselves.
@@christinacody8653 They are not. Hence, his termination
@@luiscontreras5500 They are, to a certain extent. He decided not to do his job that day.
@@John_Smith_86only because of policies not legal laws
I thought the exact same thing. Both should have been quiet left with humility instead of talking
Thats a very insightful observation.... empowering people with hateful hearts and minds to do hateful things as a course of law. He's exactly right.
Come on, cop got fired, humiliated, but should never have been charged.
Remember: There is no duty to protect, Warren vs. District of Columbia. Not saying it is right, just that it is the law.
He did nothing wrong. The person who killed your kid is in Jail.
Then wtf is he there for!
First responders have one responsibility. END the threat. You take an oath to protect and serve at all costs. Scott Peterson is no different than any officer at Uvalde, who refused to act. I don’t know what it’s like to be a long Forssman officer. But I also am not willing to put other peoples lives before mine, so that’s why I have not chosen that profession. No one puts a gun to someone’s head and says you have to do this. Leave room for people who are qualified willing to do the job.
I think the Uvalde officers were terrible, but I no longer think Scot Peterson refused to act. I listened to the evidence in the trial and it seems he truly didn't know if the shooter was in the 1200 building, 1300 building, or outside. Multiple others in the area testified that they thought the shots were OUTSIDE. Peterson was waiting for information about where the shooter was.
THE ONLY PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU SAFETY IS YOU!
“The Supreme Court has ruled twice that government actors like police and social workers actually have no duty to protect anyone.”
Castle Rock v. Gonzales
(Her husband after he violated a restraining order and abducted and killed their three children)
The Supreme Court said:
“The Police didn’t have a duty to protect her”
“The government’s obligations to protect you is voluntary”
“You cannot hold the government accountable for not protecting you”
There is One Big Problem. That officer has a handgun. The School Shooter had a AR 15. That Officer was very OUT GUNNED. I saw a video of a office making a traffic. The officer got out his car and start shooting Hand Gun at a Man standing out of his truck with a Rifle.. Officer missed many times. Man with Rifle shoots 4 times killing Officer. Also. Two Wisconsin Cops Killed in Deadly Shootout with Man using a Rifle. The Parkland officer was not a Coward. He was just not Stupid. Give Schools Officers AR15s. There is a BIG difference in long distance Shooting between Handguns and Rifles.
Respect to Mr. Oliver.
After the Columbine school shooting I suggested every school in the country should have more protection than our banks and politicians have! But this father who lost his child and so many others keep banging the guns are the problem drum. I also said no sane person uses a semi automatic weapon, knife, bomb, car, or rope to kill another human being. The problem is society, the complete disregard for life is on display everywhere!
You can't put the failure of an entire system on one man. This country failed those kids, not this man.
You failed those kids by voting for the same people who blame you for every problem they create.
Sorry, but the man also failed…
Regardless they failed. They stood around and stopped parents from going in so they could pick their nose and let kids be murdered.
@@kacornish1 He wasn't equipped to handle that type of firefight. Asking him to sacrifice himself is also not a reasonable request.
You can't put the failure on the entire country either, he was an adult an officer of the law who wasn't fit for for the job and he failed everyone of those children.
I feel weird saying this, but I'm not entirely sure I agree with everything he is saying.
I do too. It sounds like he is pionting his finger at everyone who may or may not be somewhat responsible for what happened that day.
Mr. Oliver you are a strong heartfelt voice for your son, Joaquin, & the others.
I join you in your views of this unjust verdict & disgusting celebration of it.
Your courage in speaking out matters!
The verdict was completely in keeping with the law and complete and utter lack of any crime. The fact that Oliver and a lot of the public are completely and utterly ignorant of all relevant law and case law changes nothing. My god man he thinks jury trials set precdents. Probably not somebody you want to hitch your wagon to in discussion of a legal matter.
To googleuser...I am clear that Peterson holds partial fault for not honoring his sworn oath as a law enforcement officer to PROTECT OTHERS even if it means risking his own. Otherwise he should've had a different job with less risky consequences. He is a coward & chose to protect himself rather than those he was there to protect. Fact.
@@edith9268 Opinion yes, but claiming injustice when the court ruled is dangerous.
Of course court cases set precedent. Lawyers use previous cases to back up their current case all the time. The past cases show what's been legally accepted by the Courts.
Peterson is a coward, the system sucks!!
infuriating how these cowards take a paycheck for years and decades then run at the first sign of trouble. And then they arent held accountable.
He's right, this generation is a lost cause. But there's hope in the next generation that has grown up always knowing the fear of mass shooters in their classroom or wherever else. Hopefully they vote differently.
As much as the deputy had responsibility, and some of the arguments made by the father is somewhat consistent with the events as they unfolded the day of ten shooting, it’s difficult to set a precedent where a deputy is held criminally liable for neglecting his duties. To this end, this is very case specific, the defense was able to create reasonable doubt when it argued that the deputy did not know where the shooting was coming from in order to act. Deputy got lucky in my own opinion.
I completely agree I don’t feel he is innocent at the same time though I feel like the state turned all the blame from the shooter to scot
How did a teenager get an assault rifle? Why did he feel compelled to do what he did?
Whole heartedly agree with the father. Peterson can be shamed and labeled as a Coward for life. That is how I will remember him. 48 mins. He had 48 mins to help victims at least on the first floor. provide aid after the shots had stopped. At the very least try. He ran away like freaking coward. Watched all the swat team go in there, paramedics show up to help the victims. This guy was HIDING. period. 48 mins.
I don't see how that man can live with himself ... How can you look yourself in the mirror every morning knowing you let those innocent people die and did nothing ....
*And I've earned the right to have an opinion on these matters thank you....
Easy. Cos you don't wanna die
he is a coward to the core or he would have killed himself by now.
@@bryanmannoia8410 maybe you should do that to make this world a little better :)
@@MonkeyDLuffy-gd6se 😂😂😂
This verdict is a slap in the face to all of the victims. Inaction by those hired to protect the children at Parkland and all of the other schools are getting a free ride. Why are they even there. Their job is to protect the children and staff. Shame on this so called sham of a trial. Shame on this atrocious verdict. This father’s son, Joaquin will never get his life back, nor will the other victims. This is not JUSTICE! This is the worse judgement possible.
The verdict is completely in keeping with the law. It's nobody's fault but your own that many of you can't get the reality that police have zero duty to protect you or your kids unless you are in their custody through your heads. How many court precedents does it take? They ALL say the same thing: NO DUTY TO PROTECT YOU.
Should have raised their kids to not be bullies.
These PIGS are brave when they out number you and are armed, then they can claim they feared for their lives. Everyone else can F *** OFF. These PIGS don't give a SH#T about anyone but themselves and their power. DISGUSTING!!!
@@agoogleuser3808 Then why are they even THERE? When my school started bringing in police and putting up locking gates in my senior year after a shooting in my state, we were told it was to protect us. But clearly that's _fucking optional,_ so what the hell are they there for? I've had to justify my paycheck to employers before -- I dare you to justify _theirs._
@@SMS2884 What’s wrong with you?? It sounds like you’re trying to excuse that brutal murderer who methodically shot and killed innocent kids! The kids he brutally murdered did NOT bully him.
Everybody is saying the Florida court system failed those kids. They don't understand how the system works. It was JURORS that found him not guilty. Jurors that probably have kids in a Florida school system. I understand they side with the prosecution but in a jury trial the prosecution has to bare the burden of providing proof that the defendant did indeed violate the law. A unanimous 11-0, I would say the prosecution failed miserably. So do not get angry with Scot Peterson or "the system." Get mad at the prosecution for getting your hopes up by bringing forth charges that they could not back up with proof. The jury trial "system" worked as it should.
The trial should never have happened. Scot was a scapegoat, just another to point the finger at.
wrong. criminal cowardice and dereliction of duty.
@@bryanmannoia8410 Wrong. Long careered police officer who was sandbagged by his boss.
Normal people don't have to get involved, but if you decided to be a police officer you should be expected to protect the public. Not sure if he deserves to go to jail for not doing his job 🤔
Nothing will give comfort to these suffering parents that have and will continue to grieve for their children. Taken by a madman. They didn't get the death penalty they were seeking. I can't blame them for wanting someone to pay equally for their loss.
Tell them again Dad "Keep they're mouth shut" why are they celebrating? 17 families were affected! Wow the father is sooooo right!
Well said! This father is so strong. Can't imagine the pain and strength he and his family are going through. Bless all of the families and praying that someday their hearts will healed and find peace. Peterson is a coward and disgrace to the badge. He will live everyday of his life with this shame.
peterson has no shame at all. listen to his statement after he left court! He was celebrating!!!!!
@@mdv5845Because he was accused of a crime he didn't commit. Just because there are parents suffering doesn't mean everybody around them should suffer.
You’re the coward for passing judgement without following the case.
Oh man, watching this guy, do any of you really think he had the temperament to do what was needed? I think wrong job.
This man is still a coward and hopefully he is never allowed to "protect" anyone or anything again. The jury just didn't have the evidence to convict. It happens.
I’m beginning to think that this world is trying to make everyone traumatized by the shooting suffer as much as possible.
While I feel for Mr.Oliver and all the victims, an injustice against Mr.Peterson does not bring justice to the victims.
Well someones gotta pay damn it! If not the shooter, then the police who didnt stop him. And if not the police then the mayor, or the guy at the Home Depot paint department. SOMEONES HAS TO PAY!
The shooter is in jail til he dies.
@@cashette well at least he hit his target, while you seem to have completely missed my point.
I wonder what the parents think about all the cops who did the exact same thing Peterson did despite having heaps of more real time information that they never relayed to Peterson, including specific locations AND while knowing Peterson was still trying to determine where the shots where.
I can't even fathom this man's grief.
Local officials need to make laws stating if officers do this they will be prosecuted
Locals need to take the law into their own hands, when elected officials and politicians, make excuses for people who assist in the murder of children, like this fake cop.
Ah NO that will never fly with the courts!
Should but currently babysitters are held to a higher standard than law enforcement and get paid way less.
People say "police arent caregivers!" Really? So they can put handcuffs on you, throw you in the back of a patrol car and they don't have to feed you or make sure you are well? Are prison guards not considered care givers?
If police are not going to be held liable then people need to carry their own weapons. If I go to college I want to be able to carry my own gun. "No we have police officers!" Well those officers are not required to protect me.
Good luck with that.
1. All relevant court precedent is against you.
2. Police would quit their jobs in droves and the law would be immediately repealed.
@@edwinv196 "Should but currently babysitters are held to a higher standard than law enforcement and get paid way less. "
Yes because they are actually care givers under the relevant law and police are not even close to care givers. You of course don't have any concept of this because you've never read the statute at issue and consequnetly know nothing relevant about the matter.
"People say "police arent caregivers!" Really? So they can put handcuffs on you, throw you in the back of a patrol car and they don't have to feed you or make sure you are well? Are prison guards not considered care givers? "
Utterly irrelevant in all respects because none of the victims were in police CUSTODY. Why does this even have to be explained???
"If police are not going to be held liable then people need to carry their own weapons. If I go to college I want to be able to carry my own gun. "No we have police officers!" Well those officers are not required to protect me."
Hey, you got something right! NO THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PROTECT YOU unless you are in their physical custody which means detained, under arrest or in a detention facility under their control and in that latter case they have wide lattitude so don;t think you're going to necessarily be able to sue when you get gang raped or beaten to a pulp. You're pretty much on your own just like on the street, and on the street and in your home you would be well advised to rely on a firearm as opposed to police if you can legally do so.
this is tantamount to a qualified immunity outcome. The prosecutors didn't do their job. 😢
Jesus THERE WAS NO CRIME. What part of that can't people like you undderstand? There's no qualified immunity involved. There was no violation of law or anything close to one by this deputy. Every single relevant precedent in existence says police have zero duty to protect anyone not in their custody. So tell me, why can't people like you comprehend that they really really really don't have any duty to protect you???Go read Warren v DC and Castle Rock v Gonzales, educate yourself and get back to me when you know something about this subject.
It’s not that they didn’t do their job, they couldn’t prove Scot knew where the shooter was…because he didn’t.
this Officer was TOO SCARED to go inside, to do WHAT HE IS PAID TO DO, and stayed outside as this kid shot up the school. and this kills the Republican argument that "we need more guns. good guys with guns beat bad guys."
Nicolas Cruz is glad the victim have their life for the kill count of 17.
Many of these parents gave interviews thinking it will help taint the jury pool, how wrong they were. I feel bad for these parents and victims, but the prosecution took them on a wild ride for no valid reason
@edith9268 The prosecution obviously knew this case is unlikely to pan out, since they have legal training. So, in a way, they were screwing with the parents since they were already very familiar with the existing case law on this issue
If SROs are "caregivers" how can one SRO protect 3,000 plus students? Daycare must have one employee for every five children. You do the math.
@@susancornwall515 well said.
Of course everyone feels terrible for all the parents that lost their loved ones. However, these crooked overzealous prosecutors are dead wrong for charging this officer in the first place. All it did was cause more pain and drama to the families of the victims
I think this verdict is outrageous. It’s a technicality he got off on.
And? That is called a quality defence attorney.
@@stevestoll3124 Indeed it is. My point was that it’s not justice.
@@ryanmalone2681 It very much was justice, the system worked as it was intended.
A technicality? He was a acquitted by a jury of his peers. This is the justice system that we have because we perceive ourselves as more civil. You're not always going to get the result you want. The verdict is not guilty, not innocent.
Yeah the "technicality" of not being even close to guilty of a crime.
The fact that the deputy was a coward in his actions which is understandably not forgivable by the parents but that made a handful of thenm go against him to destroy his life- shows more about them, their vindictiveness, not the ex deputy…
Blame the government and their gun policies, yall looking a scape goat.
The jury got it right. The fact that he was even charged is incredible. As a parent, I can understand his anger, but his outrage is being focused towards the wrong person.
Totally agree, the guilt is not on Scot but shooter.. Nobody is going to just run-to the line of fire. I know he and rest are angry fathers. I lost, we all lose and the pain the grief is for life. Scot should not be held accountable .. What did you want him to do.. Get shot as well. The burden is on the shooter and Gun control.
@@CaseyKCRichardsTrue!
This guy is more famous then I can ever imagine. I don't envy him in the smallest amount.
Very well said, they should not be celebrating. These poor families lost so much that day and dealt with the pain and lost every day. These families are strong and together are fighting for change so others don't have to go through the same thing
They have every right to celebrate because if the other side had won, their family member would have been locked up for years and the families of the victims would have been celebrating too. I know it's hard for him, but blaming doesn't and won't help you move forward.
The man should have been found guilty of doing nothing to intervene to help those killed.
In a matter of speaking, all jurors stepped over these murdered students & teachers bodies... & they walked right by the many more who were wounded & traumatized;
Just so they could save an elderly man who didn't have the integrity or the guts to do his job.
The only justice left is that Peterson will be haunted by his cowardice.
What was the point of him being there, if not to try to protect the kids?
No one is supposed to walk into a school or anywhere with a death machine. Cruz created a scenario that should not have been able to take place. That is the deeper problem here.
The fact that you ask this means you havent even watched the trial.
@@nadalwilson1453 fill me in? What was the argument to that? Or is there a clip that summarizes the trial?
To protect the kids. He didn't feel like working that day though. It happens
I am 100% positive that if the children of that ex school officer had been in the same situation, their Dad would also COWARD and do nothing for them.
Disgusting. Crying for his life back. He will be a cop soon in another State. Disgusting.
The Florida court has failed to provide justice for these families not once but now twice. It's heartbreaking.
its Florida, what do you expect? justice? pfft!
@@simulationkoyo/ The Stand Your Ground state has quite a history over recent years. All negative!
@@RBS314 I call it the Immoral State.
This worked exactly how it was supposed to work. You people look in any direction to blame anyone and everyone when the person that did the killing was judged and sentenced.
How did Florida fail to provide justice in this trial? The state provided evidence, prosecutor, judge and Jury. The outcome is never a guarantee.
The officer has a life too.He doesnt have a duty to protect civilians according to SCOTUS.Guns didnt kill the kids and the officer didnt kill any kids.No military grade equipment was used.
There’s absolutely nothing positive about the officer’s cowardly failure to act. His celebration is just another indication how repulsive he is.
He had no radio comms and no instructions and no idea where the shooter was. Leave him alone
Too many people in the comments section who clearly didn’t watch the trial.
My Heart go out to the 17 victims horrible story.
We aren't promised tomorrow and the father needs to forgive. Hatred only eats you alive.
Ok when you lose a love one take your own advice.
@@mrsdraper171 Beat me to it.
I think that you are confusing anger for hate. This father has every right to be angry, and his activism is geared to help save other children from the same fate as his son.
This kind of bullshit religious advice is just "more thoughts and prayers". I'm sure everyone reading your comment hopes this happens to you. Sorry, not sorry.
@@hoopyfrood4391 nah this is hatred
I feel so bad for this man, but he was acquitted by a "jury of his peers" not by any political means.
He was acquitted because there was nothing even close to a cirme on his part. This wasn't even close. You have a bunch of, franklly, legal ignoramuses, who don't know anything about the law, have no interest in learning, and think anything they personally disapprove of is a criminal offense. He got his show trial, which was blatant prosecutorial misconduct, and it didn't work out for him because the jury did it's job and either applied the law correctly on their own or followed the judges instructions. Had the prosecutor done that, she wouldn't have ever tried the damn case because there was nothing even resembling a crime on Peterson's part.
You can't prosecute someone for being a confused coward!
It amazes me that nobody wants to hold the kids at that school accountable for bullying when they literally admitted to it. Raise your kids to be better and maybe they'd grow up.
Being mean to someone, and them killing you, is NOT the same thing. It’s not even eye for an eye. Don’t put this on the victims.
Have you seen the video of Cruz preparing for the shooting? That kind of gives you an idea of what kind of mindset this kid has.
wow, something is seriously wrong with you. get help.
@@josephk4932 that chick with the shaved head said they bullied him.
@@davidchristopher6329 well don't treat people like crap and they won't go on a shooting spree 🤣