I spent $420 on a Survival Knife - Lionsteel M7 vs TRC Apocalypse
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- Опубликовано: 27 апр 2021
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Intentional or not, I love the irony on the hatchet in the background of the chopping scene
Hard to see surviving the apocalypse with only two premium sport knives, you should definitely get more.
Yeah it’s just not feasible
I'm only 40 seconds in, and already Uncle Lynn would be so proud…
Holy bejesus, 420$ for the lionsteel😳
Like others already mentioned, the TRC is about twice as expensive as the M7 here in EU. Thats the main reason I have chosen the M7 over the Apo.
I've bought my M7 for less than 200€. A great knife for the money.
I have a TRC speed demon Apo, and the finish is out of this world. Almost a pity to use the crap out of it. But I do😎
Great vid Pete, keep it up👍
It's now like 219, good deal now..
This man's dedication is at S Tier level while also making me laugh my ass off. Legend.
The most comprehensive, honest, and humorous knife reviews on RUclips! Thank you for all your efforts to produce such enjoyable material!
Loved the intro, very Advanced Knife Bro - ish .Which I feel is on point for a knife specifically designed for protecting yourself from trees.
Here in Europe the trc costs about two times the lionsteel, you can find the m7 for about 210€. Thank you for the test, and... complimenti per l'italiano!!😂
Yep, just bought one for that much.
Yeah same in UK. The m7 is about £180 the trc closer to £400.
Seeing that mirror edge reminds me how much of a mad lad you are
Haha the italian part was actually pretty good🙈!! I understood all of it without subtitles haha
Lol, all I got out of that was a recommendation to buy the Becker.
BK9 chops like a 12 inch machete, without the reach. Very good for it's size. Of course you can have 5 or so OKC 12 inch machete's for the price of a BK9 here in the US.
Sleipner is tougher then the elmax.
I bought the M7. In America, the M7 is around $230, while the TRC is around $500. Big difference in $$. The only big positive the trc has over the lionsteel is that it's stainless.
Elmax also has better edge retention and trc does a better heat treat than Lion steel but I agree the M7 is a much, much better value in the states.
In Canada it's a choice between the Apocalypse and the Ford truck.
I've had my apocalypse for about 4 years now and it's in my top 3 favorites.
Finally decided to buy one and I can’t find one anywhere. Not even overseas. 🤦🏻♂️ I do know where there’s a South Pole model so I think I’ll grab it. 👍🏻
Fantastic video as always Pete. Great info, entertaining and honest. Thank you ❗😊👍
4:17 The Molletta is quite a better choice IMHO, the 3D micarta handle is looking way more comfortable, the drop point blade shape is beautiful AF and the other one is kinda looking like a mall ninja dream with the radioactive logo and also the handle cannot be taking apart.
PS: 10:05 Put a good lanyard on it and it's done.
PS2: And me like a a good sheath.
Fun video, love the beats per usual! LOOOL at the paper discussing scratches from kydex sheath and the sparky joke 🤣👍
If you notice most knives out of Italy have very nice sheaths , like Fox and Extrema Ratio .
Got a lot of laughs from this video and I needed them all today. Thank you sincerely!
I have a TRC Apo Knife. The knife is premium in every aspect. Elmax steel. It is Full Tang (the lyon steel is not). It is partially made by hand. Its edge is handmade. Comes with certificate of authenticity sign by the creator and owner of TRC. It has the serial number láser included on the Blade, mine is like the 300 and something knife made. The Tip is improved. It was chosen the Knife of the Year in All Europe. So its a hole thing.
A watch for the clever jokes. You're so funny that watched a 20 minute video about two pieces of sharpened steel.
You are the Garand Thumb of knife videos!
I wish I had a sparky! Love my t5, bought it after watching your review. Probably the best handle of any knife I've owned.
Recently caught the EDC and camping knife bug. Found your edge retention testing a very useful reference point. I'm a chemical and materials engineer working for a steel company. We aren't tool or blade steel specialists. However, I understand steel chemistry, microstructure, testing, properties, statistics etc. Looking through your spreadsheet I had some thoughts that might be of interest. I'll try send through at some stage. No worries if not. Have fun.
Channelling Lynn Thompson in this one. Pete, hope you enjoyed making this one a fraction as much as I enjoyed watching ! Pretty sporty looking baton you're wielding. That extra inch always comes at a high price my friend. Used to do all my de-limbing with a modified Western W-49 before it was stolen (grip & guard cut down a lot).
"and a inadequate lover" 😂
"I feel silly" is exactly why we're here, Pete. Cheers! :)
All the Lionsteel fixe blades have a scrapper for firesteel or other usages at the pommel of the knives. Good video as always.
Imagine how much more expensive LionSteel could be if they had fancy magnetic display boxes.
Thanks very much for the fine Video. The prices are interesting: In germany you get the M7 for 206 Euros and the TRC Apocalypse for 445 Euros. With these prices I go for the Lionsteel! Your video was very helpfull!
continue make your informative vids and take care
greetings from germany
Ralf
Awesome review! Thanks a lot!
your aim on the chop cuts are impeccable!
Dude your channel always seems to have the freshest music
MagnaCut is about to revolutionize the Bush Knife world.
Gˋday Pete, again a really good video. 👍 I really like your style making them. „Sparky“... Bloody hilarious 😂😂😂 Keep up the great work! Greetings from Germany. ✌️
I feel you bro, its cause its spring time. Yesterday i bought the spartan difensa for camping.
Great review! I wish you included Fallkniven A1X.
Hey Pete! Love the channel and you sir are a comedic genius!! If you like both of those knives, they seem very similar and within the same league as the Chris Reeve Pacific. It might be hard/expensive to get your hands on in Australia, but it seems like you might enjoy it alongside these knives for comparison; especially compared to the TRC
Superb musical opening again!!!
I Customized My Becker BK9 and My BK 7 over 10 years ago and they are Still Going Strong 💪. Those Knives are Still flat out Tough to Beat , especially for the Price ....👍🖖
The Lionsteel T5 has become my EDC, absolutely love the blade and ergos and is always with me! Thanks for the recommendation👍
I will say this has shoved me over the decision making edge and I'll be ordering one within next few days!
This was a great episode. Still miss Uncle Randy tough😌
Love the videos learn a lot about the different steels get u a William colins knife love to see u test one out
food colouring makes the water look neat when you cut the bottles. TRC is making the DBK knife.
I find the T7 a great all rounder; I paid £214 sterling and chose uncoated satin blade. As you say the sheath is functionally superb. No knife is perfect at everything, but this is right up there with the Fallkniven A1 Pro as a general purpose knife. I also like the Fallkniven A2 which is an older model in VG10 but ergonomically nice imho. The T7 feels solid and reliable and I’d be happy to recommend it. If you primarily want a chopper the Terava Skrama 240 is a great budget option, I’ve found, and no need to mollycoddle it!!
Awesome review. I never use spine to get a fire going. .I use a Striker. And I actually love the rounded spine.
I can do anything with my 60 dollar survival knife that one can do with a 420 dollar one.
Not likely. 3v with the right heat treat can be hammered thru bolts and chain without rolling or chipping. No $60 edge does that. Plenty of $60 blades can do regular knife stuff just as well.
@J T I can do anything with my 60 dollar survival knife that someone can practically and realistically do with a 400 dollar plus knife. Things you can cut, stab, chop.
@@jtallday31yeah right, I'd like a demo on utube please😅
Love this video! Thanks.
More comparison videos please. They are worthwhile to make decisions about comparable knives.
Great review Peter!
Wow you’re knives look razor sharp polished 😱🔪 I needed 200 stitches just looking at them 👍🏻🇦🇺
Pretty sure "sporting knife" means it is for use while golfing.
Thanks for the video. Any way to get your thoughts or perhaps a video on the mid size or larger survive GSO knives? In comparison to the these two and maybe even an a1 pro?
It's only about $230 here in the US whereas a Becker bk7 is $150 with the micarta handles and a nylon sheath. At that price it's a decent deal. $420 is a bit rough, especially for sleipner steel, even though lionsteel seems to have a really good heat treat on their sleipner.
Sleipner it's a high performance steel... it's not cheap
😂😂😂😂 laughed so hard! I really love my Apocalypse for what it is. Thanks for the nice review as usual! Keep on the good work!
My apocalypse is my favorite knife but I'm also too nervous to take it out and maybe lose it 😂
@@Cz82 i must be crazy because i use this knife litteraly every camping trip since i got it😂 and i beat it hahaha
@@gtrul3s387 I'm sure it can take a beating but I'm afraid of some Ranger making up a reason to confiscate it 😂
doesn't matter which steel has the best edge retention, 'cause with these kinds of videos you have the best viewer retention!
Great review! ✨
Well "Sparky" has just sent me down a " i need to go watch Blackadder then some Monty python " mindset 🤣
Thank you sir.. entertaining as ever 🍻
I love the video. Thank you.
You are the king of knife nerds.
I keep watching all your videos.
What does this say about me?
Thank you for always being informative and entertaining.
Live long and prosper.
Always respect your videos
Give it year and Pete's new property will only have stumps on it🤣
Brilliant review, love both knives. Can you tell me the make and model of the sharpening tool you used in the video,many thanks
Best handle I've found for chopping is a Hickory ax or hatchet handle although Ash or Maple are good too :)
All kidding aside I am pretty old school and if I were headed into the back country my survival backpack would have a small 2 lb. Hudson Bay axe as I've used one helping a friend build a small cabin about 5-6 miles from the nearest road in Idaho. It is a great little ax that you can use two or one handed. Even so a hatchet would work better than just about any knife out there. There are exceptions of course, always are, but a 4-5 inch fixed blade, no thicker than 5/32 or 4mm with 1/8 being best for all around use. Add in a folder plus a hatchet and you're all set for wood crafting.
The leather sheath option from TRC is an amazing sheath.
That opening sequence was truly fucking funny. Thanks Pete.
If you use the back of the tip where it gets wider the spine is sharp enough for the fire steel on the TRC
Absolutely awesome review I've been eyeballing these for a while and love the looks of them and they just look very capable but the price was always just out of my reach and I'd spend a little less and get a bit smaller knife lol partly because I already own half dozen 7in + blade choppers including a badass Gavko custom knifechette and it doesn't get any better than that sucker! You what actually disappointed me for the money? The Bark river jx5 it is just too thick and chunky and unnecessarily heavy so it doesn't really bite into material like some of my thinner more high performance choppers do! I mean you'd never break it but then again when would you ever really carry it lol
Does this handle hurt on the m7 when chopping with hammer grip and not choked back? Or is it hurting no matter what?
Great vid. Now I like my BK-7 even more.
have you tryed the pommel in the lionsteel with the ferro rod? Some models have it sharp on purpose for it
Enjoyed every minute...
Btw the m7 is available in the UK for £180 or thereabouts. The cheapest we can get the trc for is about £400 and then theres the new 'brexit' charge for goods from europe which puts another chunk on it. In all the lionsteel is less than half the price of the trc here at least. I think they are ripping ppl off in oz.
You should give ballistol a try mate it's a decent lube, good rust preventative and it's food safe. Works well for cleaning too, it's basically a better WD-40 in my eyes.
I've heard you mentioning how much you like the Lionsteel t5 compared to most of its competitors. I was just wondering,now that you've had the chance to try others, would you still buy a t5 nowadays, or if not which fixed blade would you replace it with? Cheers Pete- keep up the content👍✌️!
Great stuff…
I know it’s an old vid but I got to ask..
You mentioned the Becker BK7 to be on par with this two, right.
What about Becker 72 cpm S35VN with micarda handles…
Would you prefer this one over those two…
It’s goes for 285€ with custom kydex sheet.
And thanks for the videos!!
Question regarding the sharpening tool used circa 8 minutes in: are there any tricks how to sharpen small blades on a traditional folder. I have a similar system and find it tricky to get an edge on a trad folder down to sub 20 degree on it?
yeah those little tiny blades are the devil! there are often extended jaws made for these kinds of systems that pinch the knife further away allowing for a higher angle. KME does have small knife jaws you can buy, and i reckon the vipers, tsprofs etc would also have variants
I appreciate your vids, thanks. You've helped me avoid more than few knives that look good on paper, but how would I have ever known about leaving blade coating on my food with you showing us? That right there was enough to turn me off the m7
That was the best batoning I've ever seen you do. Did you fly in some wood from Canada to replace your usual grarled Austrailian hardwood?
Professional stunt logs
A$420! Even when not on sale, that would have been like A$295 from Lamnia (free shipping too).
If you had gotten it last week, it was 12% off.
As my friend Dr Wako would say...."This is...a Batoning knife!"
Don’t get me wrong the TRC is a beautiful, capable and meticulous looking knife. I just can’t see how this knife is almost 2.5x the price of the comparable M7. The diminishing returns is strong in the comparison.
Appreciated your form when ending the deadly rope snake early on. Form was just right for the size of snake, Not exerting the extra motion which might have been required for a larger rope snake. Your practice is working padawan. 🌝
Only 2 minutes in and you have made me legitimately laugh out loud 3 times. Impressive work, sir.
So happy that I only paid 70 bucks for my large piece of Sleipner. Great review as usual!
Which knife?
The Kyzliar Bastardo is a big cheaper knife with sleipner steel
@@snowman7161 cheaper yes, but in Australia it would cost around 200 American dollars or more
What is the normal relative humidity in your part of the world? I've never seen wood that dry since I lived in New Mexico...
If you do that treelimb chopping here in Holland you must be prepared to kill some forrest wardens too afterwards if you don't want a gigantic fine.
Even on your own property?
Here in Australia, it depends on what the tree is and where you live. Pete's out in the country and that looked like a decorative tree in his yard rather than a native out in the bush.
yes, one of my personal trees. Supposed to only chop deadfall here too, when in parks etc
@1k horsepwr, above a certain height tree, yes.
@@klaassiersma4892 wow... Im assuming then that no one purchases wooded land with the intent to use the timber to build their dwelling, or shops...
That a very steep price for that steel. This knife with its great design should have been made from 3V. Just my humble opinion. Thank you for the video.
Great video
I don't know how much these would be in Australia, but The Knife Connection has their Architect knives, and their 6.5 inch blade in 3V runs for about 165 usd. It's great heat treat and quality, with custom options for handles. Maybe the best deal for 3V, and comparable size to the TRC knife, only less than half the price.
Nice comparison. Is the coating oil the M7 DLC?
Cool knife! Whats that really big knife in comparison?
The AR -15 is of course referred to as MSR=Modern Sporting Rifle here in the states. Sporting Knife” works!
Your music choice is awesome haha. Rewatching bleach now lol. But yeah man LionSteel has just gotten on my radar lately but not sure about pulling then trigger haha. I do have a Spyderco shaman in M4 that was around 200$ mark so I can’t be too picky but still.
I'm going with the hatchet or maybe a machete, or my BK9. What I'm seeing suggests they are just high priced toys anyway which is fine if that's what you want to do.
Pete, is the M7 a more expensive knife for you in Australia? Here in the USA the TRC is significantly more expensive
Dude you have to review the t6 in k490 I'm dying to see the k490 limits and coating
good knifing!
Oii Pete ya spud, with the LionSteel it has a crisp edge for the fire steel down at the base of the handle hence the gap in the handle.