Lighting SwitchGear - First EV Raptor
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- Опубликовано: 22 янв 2024
- This week we take a look at what most raptors owners consider the worst thing ever. The new Lightning Switchgear demo vehicle. I dig it, check out the video for details why.
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Given the current success of the F150 lightning, this truck will likely be nothing more than a novelty.
Lightning is technically the best selling EV truck 🤷♂️. I personally wanted a lightning, but not with the SEA combo port. The public charging network is awful and unreliable and EV owners know it so most are waiting for Ford and the other OEMs to adopt the Tesla charge port. That’s coming later this year. When that happens and you have native access to the Tesla surcharges network, it will change EV sales again and they will trend up again. Reason I say this is because no one wants a car with outdated tech. And the SEA combo charger in them now is obsolete now when most of the manufacturers announced they will be adopting Tesla charge ports last year
Technically the best selling EV truck?? That’s really a BS statement. Technically you’re correct but at the same time the market is all but nonexistent when compared to internal combustion powered trucks. I have lightnings at work, the company put a few in place to try out. They have diesel webasto heaters to keep the cabs warm to try to save on mileage. The trucks are junk, as a truck. If you put anything in them, pull a trailer, anything a truck is made to do, they are junk. If you want to daily drive it back ad forth from work with just you in it, great. Seems like a high price point for what you get. You sound like a nerd fan boy to me. Fords loss on ev’s is around 3 billion right now isn’t it? How much of that is subsidized by your and my federal tax dollar? Disappointing.
90% of trucks don’t get used as a trucks 🤷♂️. They don’t tow, they don’t carry heavy loads, they get used as daily’s. EVs batteries don’t have the range to tow today and won’t be able to replace tow rigs until there is major advancements in battery tech.
Now as for the Ford Loss argument, that’s total BS. Ford has been cutting production of all its vehicles. Not just EVs, because no one is buying. Car prices and interest rates are too high. Only EV production cuts make the news and you’re falling for it. If Ford was not making money they would immediately stop production all together. I wonder why they haven’t ?
Ford trucks are also too expensive and don’t qualify for any incentives so what government is funding them?
Now you already restored to insults so I know what’s next here. A insult latent tantrum is coming. 🤣
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Where I live, trucks are used as trucks, currently they all have snow plows hanging off the front of them. Heck my raptor is hooked to a trailer as I type. People can’t afford to operate a truck and not use it as a truck in my neck of the woods.
Regarding the losses, this is a direct snip from one of many articles that pop up when I search Ford EV losses. “This means that Ford lost around $36,000 for every electric vehicle it sold in the quarter, surpassing its estimated $32,350 loss per EV in the second quarter. For the entire year, the carmaker expects a full-year loss of $4.5 billion for its EV unit. Why is that, though?
Ford said the Q3 loss is "attributable to continued investment in next-generation EVs and challenging market dynamics." Regarding the latter, the carmaker noted that "many North American customers interested in buying EVs are unwilling to pay premiums for them over gas or hybrid vehicles." This puts pressure on EV prices and profitability, according to Ford.” I still think you’re a nerd fan boy of evs. It’s not a good or bad thing, if you are, why not embrace it? Typical talk, oh those batteries, boy are they going to be something, someday.
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Awesome looking rig and happy to see that fun won't stop with the electrification. Saying this owning the legendary SVT, like you! Great vid, love the music!
Thanks 🙏
Enlightened video. I like the new format a lot. Thanks, man! Btw, all stupid questions answered 😂
🤣🤣 thanks.
Great content keep it coming 🤘🏼
Thanks
Glad you covered this Helio.
Thanks 🙏
Great video and perfect perspective on current EV situation. I have a Rivian R1S on 35" R/T's and took it offroad in the remote CO mountains and it was great. Own V8, diesel, and long travel UTV too. One thing I noticed immediately that was not really thinking about is the regenerative braking on steep downhill with loose wet rock of all sizes is a game changer in terms of how well it controls the vehicle from slipping and sliding around. Would be nice to see something with more true off road long travel suspension so all for the SwitchGear.
Did not even think about regenerative braking being a much better hill decent control type of system. But totally makes sense and would be far more controlled than using the brakes.
Great video would be interesting to see how this truck would do side by side with the other gen raptors. Not a big EV fan but it looks really cool.
Me too. The reduced suspension travel and weight will put it closer to a gen1, but it still a good start
I love this SwitchGear. I think it looks amazing and will out perform everything except for the Raptor R. I agree with you on most things in your “hater section”. I personally think that EVs are a virtue signal that don’t do nearly as much good as people think, if you read the studies. That being said EVs will and are far out performing gas vehicles. Like most things in life I think the future lays in the middle and is more of a hybrid of gas and EVs, pun intended. Hybrid trucks like the power boost F150 show that you can bring EV performance and gas mileage and gas station convenience together. Smaller/Bigger cylinder with bigger batteries and motors will most likely be our future. Oh and everything will have a turbo. Like they already do. What do you think?
I like the idea of hybrid and I think it’s a necessary step that most people will accept. A hybrid raptor would be awesome for example. Specially for camping and extended off grid trips.
But I’m also for a quicker change to EVs. And my reason is a different that you may think. I want more EVs so that the V8 don’t die. EVs means bigger credits for the manufacturers. Tax penalties is what’s killing V8 engine development right now. Companies loose money on every v8 car they make because of them. it would suck for the R and Mustang or the corvette to not have a V8. And if EVs take off, that means more credits so the v8 can still be made. Ford has already announced that they will keep making the v8 Mustang. And only reason they can do that is because of the EVs and hybrids they are making. I don’t want everything hybridized or turbo charged. Nothing like a good v8 and hope EV adoption helps keep them around longer.
I can agree with that
Even though an electric vehicle wouldn’t work for me right now I would make that truck work for me. The more I look at it the more I like it. It’s giving me the same feelings I had when the gen 1 raptor first came out.
Me too!! This was my same though as well when I first saw it.
RIGHT?!?!?!? I agree that this is EXACTLY what the Gen 3 should have looked like. The current Gen 3 looks like a Chinese knock off Gen 1 LOLOL
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The best part is Ford is making demo EV’s and showing possibilities. They know vehicle enthusiasts drive vehicle sales, and if EV are going to be welcomed it they need to be fun too. The switchgear videos at king of hammers looked awesome fun.
Totally agree.
This would be awesome and thank you so much for covering this and addressing the typical concerns. I kind of want to get a salvaged lightning xlt and build it with f150 carbon fiber fenders and long travel kit with 37s 😁. If it got 200 mi range I'd be plenty happy for a toy (ev hatchback for daily)
Mee too. Specially now that they can charge at Tesla superchargers. Only challenge is the rear. Front would be easy enough. I bet most raptor kits would work. Rear end I think sits low so it would be nice to raise the motor a bit and then figure out a matching suspension setup.
@KeepItDirtyOffRoad exactly, the Tesla supercharger network is near all the places I want to camp and explore. For the rear, who do you think in SoCal or NV would be willing to take on that project? 🤔 Asking for a friend ☺️
I think any of the big shops may do it. Challenge is budget. That back end is not going to be cheap to develop.
Looks cool but heat is a killer for EVs. I think the raptor Gen 3 should have been a hybrid. I think people would be more on board
Actually no, EVs do good in the heat. Even at over 100 degrees. Cold is what gets EVs. Its saps more power and range than anything else. But I agree too, a hybrid raptor would be awesome.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad hmm I would think running in the desert would produce lots of heat, sapping range and efficiency from EVs
Yeah it does, so does running an engine. My v8 gets heat soaked in anything over 110 degrees and can’t run as hard. EVs have cooling systems for the batteries and can handle high heat better than engines can. So will they generate heat? Yes. Will we need better cooling? Of course, but so does our engine counterparts when it gets hot.
I love the style of that truck but the only problem for my of the ev is that here in the Midwest in winter you see the tesla with a frozen battery and then the superchargers get frozen
I remember seeing the articles and news about the frozen cars that could not charge in Chicago and it honestly pissed me off. What happened was a few drivers stranded themselves due to poor planning on their part. Superchargers literally only have 2 moving parts, the release mechanism for the cord and a fan with the power module. If those froze then so would a gas station pump and it would not take much to get them loose. And a EV battery has no moving parts. It’s solid batteries and a cooling system. The cooling system uses radiator fluid that can’t freeze under normal conditions. Door latches and all that can freeze, but again does not take much to unfreeze them and a regular car would be impacted in the same way.
So the whole story was BS and now people think EVs can’t handle the cold. 🤦♂️. EVs don’t even need an engine block heater to run in the cold. It’s the number one car in Norway and they are farther north than you guys and get worse cold spells than you guys. But you don’t hear about them being stranded up there. So annoying man. Don’t fall for the BS.
There’s no gas station out in the dessert either or has that change
🤣🤣 nope it has not. But people seem to forget that.
Does the lightening have steer by wire or mechanical. I’ve heard the cyber truck has issues when a computer is turning your wheels as opposed to you and a mechanical linkage. Could be an issue off road?
Ford uses the eletronic steering rack from all f150s mechanically connected and electronically assisted.
And yes, I think the cyber truck steer by wire will be an issue offroad. Not being able to control the input directly and relying on software won’t work offroad
Dddddduuuude! I RACED OVER HERE! Had to finally get to tell you I bought my 3rd Gen raptor! 2023 azure gray 37 package F150 Raptor. I was considering the 2024, and I saw the reveal and felt the same as you about the lights. The only thing I was interested in was the rear suspension update which didn't pull me in over the look of it. Hope to see you or join you in a run!
Congrats man. You’re going to love it. Hope to see you out there on the trails!!
Im personally all for it. Id more than likely never buy one but its definitely cool to see. Especially if it comes into production.
Right on man. Glad to see more are onboard. I so want one.
Sup Helio. Awesome video once again. As far as the Switchblade I think it’s bad ass truck. I’m a big Chevy, V8 power, offroad dude. But like I told you before man, game recognize game and I can appreciate a good looking rig with all the right specs. EV are coming like or not and I was looking forward to that Badger that turned out to be a hoax, lol. But this is the next best rig and wouldn’t mind having one. Keep it up.
Thanks man. Same boat here. I think this rig would be a lot of fun.
Tow a diesel generator for a power bailout on the trail with an EV
🤣🤣 there are enough superchargers in and around the Mojave that it should be fine without.
Never been an ev fan but this thing.. im kinda digging it. Not that ill ever be able to afford it, id also miss my v8 rumble.
Great review and video like always 🙌🏻
I would too. That V8 noise is so awesome. This is quiet as hell and why I started the video with no music. Sounds weird with just the tires making noise.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad was thinking about how the lightning would sound with more wear on the at tires, would it be nothing but tire hum or is the cab fairly quiet still. 🤔 i know the radio can drown it out but i sometimes drive without it on. Lol.
Sound treatment only goes so far. Tire noise usually cuts through most sound treatment so going down the road with MT tires would be a nighmare of noise. The trail series tires here is a good choice. Nice middle ground or an AT tire would be better
Good video man, really liked the reaction clips from the other off-road dudes.
I just think ford needs to put the switchgear in the baja1000 before we can call it the gen1 ev raptor🤘
That would be cool as hell. But charging is the issue for EVs in the middle of nowhere. There is already offroad e racing that is super fun to watch so EV offroad racing with a manufacturer class would be fun
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad side note, can’t wait for that HM truck video🙏 that teaser from your ig was 🔥 🔥🔥
Thanks. We got a ton of good clips. Now we need to finish shooting the video this week and I’ll have it up in a few weeks
Just woke up this morning and saw a post on insta saying that this truck is gonna be 6” wider than a Normal Raptor 😮 , I was scratching my head thinking how will DOT regulations allow this ? Or could they ? Idk but thanks for the confirmation within your channel Helio
Yeah I thought that was odd too at 80 inches. Raptor track is wider than 80 depending on what source you reference. My SVC truck is at 94in so the lighting would need to be that wide to be wider.
At 80in it means there is room to grow on suspension travel. Axles will still limit it, but there are options
All brands to me I critique equally. Ford isn’t my favorite. But man do I like this. I hope Ram, GM, Toyo, Nissan follow suit with an EV off road. I’m curious is this something you would consider getting?
I talked about it in the video, if it has decent range and price is reasonable, I would so get one and test it to its limits. Challenge will be prices. Trucks are just way too expensive these days and this thing would follow suit
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad I saw that after I wrote the comment. Lol. Didn’t feel like changing the comment. I liked when you got the reactions of the off roader at the end. That quick release battery exchanger would be a game changer and super interesting. I am right there with you. If range and price is on point than I would love to have one in the driveway.
Yeah. Quick change batteries for racing would be a must. But for us on the trails we need better batteries and faster charging. Tesla tried quick battery swaps. People did not bite because they had no clue what kind of battery they would get. You don’t want someone else’s bad battery. But advancement in batteries and chargers is coming. We heard about a battery breakthrough this week so it’s just a matter of time now.
good video. i like it
Thanks 🙏
Instead of dual spare tires like raptor bros they are gonna bring dual generators in the back🤣🤣
🤦♂️🤦♂️ what’s the video man. Specially the haters section.
I'm feeling a lighting Raptor. That's gonna change the game.
I hope so. It’s a cool start and hope they bring it into production
Totally agree gen 3 Raptors are eh. And 2024's isn't any better. The regular Lighting EV and this concept get a pass from me. It looks like an EV, but still keeps an attractive styling.
Totally agree. This looks so much better than the current styling of the raptor.
Cool concept but EV trucks aren’t ready for weekend warriors. Range will be terrible. Heard your argument above for it but I think you’ll find that it will be much worse than anticipated.
Also, I think there will be overheating issues with the motors. Rivian has had small issues with it. Maybe half day trips but how many of those before one of the motors shits the bed. Not like pulling over and waiting for your gas truck to cool down and adding coolant. Then being able to limp it home. Battery takes off and you’re toast.
Great for the man who wants to show it off but I don’t think it will be good for hard use.
You may be right on the range front. Bigger tires and more weight have a huge impact on range. But that can also be fixed with time. New battery tech is coming with more power density for less cost.
But the cooling is not as much of a worry for me. I’ve never had any of my EVs overheat. Even in pretty hot temps. Offroad that could change but it depends on what you’re doing. I could see rock crawling on a hot day being a problem due to airflow on the EV radiators. But that’s a problem for gas engines too.
But the off-roading that I do, I don’t think it will be as much of a problem. But we don’t really know. No one doing extended high speed offroad runs with them yet. Only ones I know of are hitting Glamis in short bursts. Everyone is just “overlanding” EVs right now. Going slow. Need someone to beat them up and test to the extreme
Off roading an EV truck is like drinking Bud Light while at a rodeo in Texas.
I didn’t lose my mind because I don’t really care. I love my Raptor R and plan on keeping her for life.
Nice!! Many did. Glad we are wearing from those that did not.
I think the Ford F150 lightning switch back should be in production Ford go figure for the future thanks to Ford love it to be able to buy at dealers in years to come thanks for loving it as much I do😊
F150 Lightning switch gear sorry I got it wrong the first time I’m A Ford lover thanks again for all your content loves all RUclips videos 😊
Totally agree man. Ford has always been ahead of the curve and this is a great step forward.
Love your take on this. It’s so cool to see the possibilities of electrification. Things will only get better with time
Thanks and yeah man. I’m excited for what’s coming
I’d rock one if they made a scab
Nice!! But why a scab?
The rear suspension will limit this design for true desert work. An independent rear is not ideal and will be hard to match the performance of the link gen3.
Totally agree. The motor mounted in the center makes more travel very difficult. Would be easier to center mount the motor and run it through a conventional axle. BUT, UTVs out there getting big suspension travel numbers with a similar configuration. I think it is possible to get big numbers. BUT it’s not going to be cheap.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad yes travel can be achieved but design flaws of an independent rear is the key. The best minds and money have tried independent rear suspension but in an Off-road “truck” design for high speed work you can’t beat a satchell link.
Very true. That’s why I think a raptor with a Tesla performance motor center mounted would be so wild. No need for a transfer case or anything. Simplify the design and load the truck up with batteries but limit it to about 7500 lbs evenly spread and you have a really fun truck.
Everyone will critisize the exhaust note and the 2 spots it will take up at the charging station!
🤣🤣 that they would. It will barely fit next to the teslas. It would be hilarious to show up at a supercharged covered in mud and see the Tesla boys freak out a bit
Tesla Cyber truck came down to south Texas and ended up getting stuck in the fields of south Texas lol I believe an F250 pulled it out that day.
Tons of video clips of cybertruck getting stuck on easy trails, snow, and mud. The traction control system and the new steering is the big issue here. And that’s before we even talk about how ugly it is.
This is where I would be okay with an ev. Full scale Traxxis.
🤣🤣 hell yeah. RC cars are fun and this thing is as close as you can get to actually drive one.
Not the biggest fan of ev but damn this thing is cool, and if they want to force ev on us then I’m all for a ev raptor
Hell yeah. Make compelling vehicles and people will buy them. This one really caught my eye.
Electric motors are amazing! The batteries not so much. Automobile manufacturers need to create more hybrids. I think an electric power train with a built in gas or diesel generator would be perfect. Like the Chevy Volt.
The BMW i3 had the same setup and why it was my first EV. But yeah man. Battery tech still needs a big leap to improve energy density and hybrids would be a great way to fill the gap while battery tech catches up. A hybrid raptor would be so much fun!!
Oh wow I didn’t know that about the BMW. I’ll have to check that out. I have an F-150 Powerboost and am impressed with it. I’m thinking of modding it to be Raptor-like. Cool channel ✌🏼
That would be a cool build for sure man. Would be the first hybrid raptor.
I miss the days when you weren't so cynical toward your followers :). All the same, I cant wait for more electric to hit the offroad world. That instant power opens sooo many doors, much like when brushless took over the nitro world in R/C off-road.
I know man but my attitude is justified on this subject. Most raptors owners did loose their mind about this truck. I had one specifically loose his cool and said some pretty racist and vile things because he could not hold a conversation with me on the subject after I posted I liked the truck.
So to me this is an opportunity to dispel some myths. I’m glad you’re on the side of more EVs. I’m a big fan of them. But just give this video some time and you’ll see all the stupid comments come on the subject. Already have 1 ignorant comment already on the video and many more will come
Yes ford should put it production. There will be demand for electric trucks. That said, I think Mark was spot not on the rear suspension, if someone can figure out to put a solid axle at the back and figure out ways for that to tuck in and achieve the long travel numbers. Then there is no stopping this….. it will tear everything apart!!!
Totally agree. Maybe moving the motor to the center of the truck and running it through a traditional axles would work.
Now the switchgear is out there. Let's see if any of the workshops will work on the lighting platform to fit a traditional axle and move the motor to the center. It only takes one trophy truck for others to jump on the wagon@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad
That’s my hope as well. I wish I had the funds to do it myself honestly.
One day you will get there@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad
I like Von Gittin Jr's trucks. He worked with Kibbetech on the Ultimate Fun Haver F-150 and the Fun Runner Ranger. So if Kibbetech was involved in designing the suspension of Switchgear then it will work great and give the batteries a gentle ride. Even if this truck is only a concept or limited production it is a important transition vehicle. You can't force people to give up internal combustion vehicles, but if they build performance electric vehicles like this then some people will want to drive or own it. Extreme E electric off-road racing is already testing electric vehicles (ODYSSEY 21 550bhp) in harsh conditions, charging with portable hydrogen stations, tires made from dandelions, and building the body from natural flax fibre which is a renewable resource. ruclips.net/video/np200gFbCfs/видео.htmlsi=XBrX8ZZJf1QnYCMf
I’d definitely buy one
Hell yeah man. Me too
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad great video btw. People will complain about everything but then end up buying one lol
Once EV cars or trucks get really efficient and we have the infrastructure then yeah a possibility of getting one but at this moment. They are not there yet. Like people say let it cook let it cook 😂
I think motors are there but yeah, battery and charging tech needs improvement and infrastructure has a ways to go. But we are moving in the right direction.
If a gas truck uses more energy in the dirt, so, would the electric truck use more energy in the dirt too? Your ranges don't seem to be apples to apples. I believe you used the same on-road range for the electric truck. I think real world energy usage for the electric would have to be tested. Cool looking truck with all the graphics. I woulder what it would look like with a retail paint job.
No, energy usage is very different between EVs and gas engines. For example generation heat for the cabin takes a ton of energy away from EVs while gas engines heat is a byproduct. EVs also don’t waste power at idle like gas engines do. And they generate power on all downhill sections or when ever you let off the gas pedal. EV off-roading would be very different. It would be more like driving a manual transmission. So it would be constantly regenerating power but also the motors would always be engaged providing better control offroad. No one has offroaded an EV like a raptor so we don’t know what kind of range impact it can have. No EV could take the speeds and abuse until this truck. So we will see what’s possible once this starts to hit the trails
Two important things you’re missing about EV’s. The first thing is insurance. EV’s are more expensive to insure. Insurance companies will total an EV out rather than repair an EV with suspected battery cell damage. In essence EV’s are essentially throw away vehicles.
The second thing is lithium batteries are extremely toxic the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) has done extensive research on the dangers of Lithium Ion Batteries from toxic gases emitted to sudden explosions that have occurred with battery failure. I have gone to dozens of fires caused by Lithium Ion battery failure. Everything from house fires, vehicle fires on the street. to fires in garbage trucks caused by people throwing away batteries that explode due to compression.
Trust me, you do not want to be in that vehicle if a battery cell fails that was caused by hard trail driving. It will be like sitting in a grenade
The insurance market is still catching up on EVe and since there is limited experienced repair shops and options right now, everything is going to be expensive. Insurance will eventually come down.
As for the batteries that’s a BS argument and you know it. If the same happened to gas it would be just as bad if not worse. There are more gas car fires everyday than battery fires. Just as toxic, happens way more often, but none make the news. Why? Because we know how to deal with car fires. Still catching up with how to deal with EV fires.
If we follow your logic then we should not use cell phones, laptops, tablets. Anything with a modern battery. Come on man. You going to put down your phone because of the lithium battery argument? It may catch fire!
No oil changes, No Trans fluid changes, no x-fer case oil changes, no front or rear diff oil changes... js...
Wouldn’t mind it at all
Exactly. Far less maintenance and less things to go wrong offroad.
Lightnings are sitting on dealer lots. No one is buying them now. I don't think this truck will push people to buy EV Trucks. Range is too limiting. My 2019 Raptor gets better range than the Lighting does all day.
Lighting is still the best selling truck right now. But there are 3 factors limiting it sales. 1st is price. It’s too expensive. 90k trucks don’t make sense to most people. 2. Public charging network is crap and people waiting for Ford to switch over to the Tesla charger. 3. Dumb misconceptions. The lighting is better for 90% of truck owners use cases than their gas counterparts. But there is a lot of misconceptions on EVs that are propagated out there that stops most buyers. Same thing happened when we switched from carbureted to fuel injection, when electricity was first intruded in peoples homes. People are resistant to change 🤷♂️
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad as far as the Lightning being the best selling truck, I don't find that accurate at all. Maybe it might be true out where you are, but here in St Louis, there are very few on the roads here. I see more Rivian R1T's on the roads than Lightnings. When Lightnings first hit the market I would see a couple quite consistently. I still stand that as far as the on road use, my Gen 2 will get better range than the Switchgear. Off road you may be right about that case, but we really won't know unless they take it out on a run like you guys do.
Yeah, ford released the numbers and they basically can produce trucks by a big factor over what rivian can do. Ford has put more on the road in 1 year than rivian has been able to in the same period. I don’t notice them much either, but that’s because they blend in so well. If you don’t look closely, it’s just another f-150.
But yeah, we need to test these in the real world to see how they hold up and confirm the range. Cybertruck is a great example. Tesla “leaked” so many videos of the trucks running the trails and boasted its capabilities. But in the real world, the few out there have shown some major issues with the Tesla traction control being too slow to find traction and the trucks keep getting stuck on minor stuff. I’m not convinced the cybertruck will be as good offroad as the Rivian or what even the Lighting can do. To me it feels like a minivan with big tires.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad the one thing that sticks out about Lightning to me is the rear drive train/suspension on the truck. It’s bulky and a very noticeable difference between a normal F150 and the Lightning. That’s the one part about the truck I could see being an issue off road over a normal F150/Raptor. But it does look like they might have addressed that issue from the pictures and video we have seen so far. Getting a close look at the Switchgear in person would definitely answer that question of how they did it.
As far as Rivian goes, it’s a nice truck. I like the pass through port on it and could see how it can be used for different things. I got to sit in one last year and after that I felt like it was very similar to the GMC Canyon I had at that time. If I didn’t need and love how the F150 is on the interior, I would be more ok with a Rivian or a mid size truck. If I get to talk to one of the guys that owns one around here I will ask the, how they like it etc. I do still feel like the EV market for some reason is a niche at this point.
Yeah. That rear motor is definitely low still. The 37s help a bit I think here. Maybe mounting it higher is switching to a center mounted motor under the cab with a traditional axle may work better for off-roading.
I feel the same about the Rivian. I like the looks and functionality. Just hate the price.
Changes are hard and electric vehicles are here to stay, I personally like gasoline vehicles but I moved along with the times.
Yeah. Agree. And people resist change. We had a similar conversation when engines switched from carburetors to fuel injection. Everyone questioned reliability and power and everything. And they took over. EV is the next evolution. Won’t eliminate the old gas cars. They will still be around.
Hybrids are the best of both worlds.
They can be when build right. Toyota has it figured out. I think Ford needs some work on their hybrid powertrain though.
Es un maldito jugete el video eta editado con un demonio. Por poco me la creo 🤯
Not sure if you meant this as a compliment or criticism. So I guess thanks ?
This truck but with a hydrogen motor..
Odd comment. No such thing is a hydrogen motor. There are EVs power by a hydrogen fuel cell. Is that what you meant?
If so, that’s worse than an EV right now. Even heavier and no infrastructure for them.
lol everyone telling you that they are junk… and you keep praising it…… buy one and then remember all those whom tried to save you from making this huge mistake. Soo go ahead buy one in 6 months you’ll be on board with us…. It has all this hp and tq and torque is king bla bla bla it’s junk once that torque gets used it uses all that battery 🪫.
Spoken like someone that has never owned an EV.
Watch the video again. This video is MY opinions based on my experience. Not someone else’s regurgitated BS. I even talk about WHY i don’t have an EV right now. 🤦♂️. Seriously man. Watch it all the way through before you comment. Your comment looks silly in context of the full video.
It’s got Gen 1 type suspension. Dumbest statement ever. Buy 2024 vehicle technology but 2010 suspension. 😂
I love how you encourage two-way dialogue but mock guys with legitimate concerns. 🤡
🤣🤣 clown like you will always get mocked.
You don’t seem to understand that this is a completely different drive train. What works for a combustion engine with a transfer case, is not going to work for electric power train where the motors at the center of the axles 🤷♂️. So for this power train, this is a good step forward. It’s starting out much like the gen1 did.
But I have a feeling you’re the type that will dismiss this truck just because it’s electric. Yet forgetting some of the biggest well known gear heads helped commission this truck. Both Von and Ken block are big fans of electrification. Before his passing Ken block had already done 2 big releases of EV vehicles. One with ford and one with Audi.