People always talk about the Khan’s “strange things” roast, but *this* has my favorite Jaghatai burn. How he completely dismantles Mortarion and his hypocrisy.
@@allunt8170 the khan in the early days of the heresy was the one no one knew would side with whom, and his first action after getting calls from both sides was 'hang on, hold up. I need time to assess this and figure out what the fuck you're all doing.' Common sense really is a primarch power
"They played you well. You have done their work for them, and soon you will be dragged into it yourself, just as warp-sick as they are." After reading "The Buried Dagger", I realized that this was some mad foreshadowing from the Khan.
A key difference between Mortarion and Dorn is that the former is rigid and the latter is sturdy. Both are stubborn, but Mortarion never learned how to be adaptable and he paid for it.
I think the difference is that Mortarion is consumed by bitterness due to his upbringing on a toxic world and then never getting catharsis by the Emperor taking the kill. Fundamentally Mortarion's entire psychology is shaped by living under the thumb of a tyrant who treats him like a tool to be used. Essentially the great crusade and entire galaxy became a giant Barbarus to him mentally while Horus offered him a path towards "liberation". Fundamentally the difference between them all is that Mortarion is envious of some of his brothers who are free in mind compared to him. Again to reiterate Mortarian is a slave who doesnt understand how to be free because hes a slave to his bitterness which is expressed in his legion's form of metaphysical corruption and his own hypocrisy in engaging in psychic powers and witchcraft. Could have been solved if the Emperor literally took one day to do some psychotherapy with him or give him some form of agency of catharsis. I think at one level Mortarian is just Angron without the butchers nails but his mental slavery and torment is born out of losing his chance to become his own man, in his eyes that event was defeating his tyrant alien father with his own hands and with the Emperor doing it for him, forever stunted his growth and left him to stew in a vicious circle of brooding negativity. I think what it comes down to is all the traitor primarchs essentially have some past unresolved trauma that they never dealt with and in my cases the Emperor made it worse with his callous detachment from humanity and hoping his sons would just be happy to fulfill their roles.
@@krel3358 That's the crux of it though. The Primarchs were supposed to fulfil their role. That was the entire point of their creation. The human aspects of the Primarchs, their emotions, ideals, etc overruled in every way against their intelligence and Emperor given gifts. He didn't plan for those human attributes to rule the Primarchs the way they did.
@maltheri9833 So adaptable that 10k years later he couldn't resist going after Guilliman in a temper tantrum while Typhus runs circles around him as Nurgles real champion. Now he's getting tortured in the House of Nurgle because daddy Emps isn't ready to forgive him yet.
This is delightful. I love your take on their voices - none of the forced thick Asian accent but a subtle gentle one that hides in the background. Thank you! Ordu Gamana Jaghatai!
A good reading can highlight details in the text you never noticed before. I'd never noticed before just how desperate mortarion is in this scene and how smoothly the khan plays it until mortarion tips his hand.
@@WynterLegend I've never actually heard someone say Horus was their favourite primarch. Ever. I've seen people simp for Lorgar, or even Angron, but out of the hundreds of odd unpopular legion enjoyers, I've never found someone with the same level of larp-fuelled devotion towards the Sons of Horus and Horus himself than any other legion. Which is a shame, honestly. I love the Sons of Horus, even after the betrayal. They have a weird aura about them post-istvaan that they're the personal harbingers of THE Warmaster, the Chosen of the Four, the Arch-Traitor, that no other legion (for me) matches. They're like the Iron Warriors in that they've mostly retained their wits about them, but unlike the Iron Warriors haven't completely shunned the gifts of the four either. They really were a force to be reckoned with. Their end is also great.
I do wish to get to some more xenos content soon, too, indeed. Not sure when I'll have time to get around to it but, soon, I hope. My thanks for watching!
to me the Khan is one of the smartest primarch, when you have to chose between a "tyrant" (he wasn't if you take chaos into account) and literal evil gods that sht on your soul, he's just like "damn"
People always talk about the Khan’s “strange things” roast, but *this* has my favorite Jaghatai burn. How he completely dismantles Mortarion and his hypocrisy.
'And there is the difference between you and me,' said the Khan, moving his dao into guard. 'By the time I make my kills, I am always laughing.'
A fine job as always. Yet, i miss this last sentence. It feels unfinished. But, Daniel is too good for such a mistake. I guess it was done one purpose
The more I hear/read about Khan the more I realise that he taps not only into the speed force but also common sense!
Yeah, imagine actually thinking before acting in WH universe.
@@Sawarynk nah! That sounds like HERESY!
@@allunt8170 the khan in the early days of the heresy was the one no one knew would side with whom, and his first action after getting calls from both sides was 'hang on, hold up. I need time to assess this and figure out what the fuck you're all doing.'
Common sense really is a primarch power
"They played you well. You have done their work for them, and soon you will be dragged into it yourself, just as warp-sick as they are."
After reading "The Buried Dagger", I realized that this was some mad foreshadowing from the Khan.
A key difference between Mortarion and Dorn is that the former is rigid and the latter is sturdy. Both are stubborn, but Mortarion never learned how to be adaptable and he paid for it.
He is actually more adaptable than you think
I think the difference is that Mortarion is consumed by bitterness due to his upbringing on a toxic world and then never getting catharsis by the Emperor taking the kill. Fundamentally Mortarion's entire psychology is shaped by living under the thumb of a tyrant who treats him like a tool to be used. Essentially the great crusade and entire galaxy became a giant Barbarus to him mentally while Horus offered him a path towards "liberation". Fundamentally the difference between them all is that Mortarion is envious of some of his brothers who are free in mind compared to him. Again to reiterate Mortarian is a slave who doesnt understand how to be free because hes a slave to his bitterness which is expressed in his legion's form of metaphysical corruption and his own hypocrisy in engaging in psychic powers and witchcraft. Could have been solved if the Emperor literally took one day to do some psychotherapy with him or give him some form of agency of catharsis. I think at one level Mortarian is just Angron without the butchers nails but his mental slavery and torment is born out of losing his chance to become his own man, in his eyes that event was defeating his tyrant alien father with his own hands and with the Emperor doing it for him, forever stunted his growth and left him to stew in a vicious circle of brooding negativity.
I think what it comes down to is all the traitor primarchs essentially have some past unresolved trauma that they never dealt with and in my cases the Emperor made it worse with his callous detachment from humanity and hoping his sons would just be happy to fulfill their roles.
@@btg7760he has had to be....being bottled like a fly by Papa N 😂
@@krel3358 That's the crux of it though. The Primarchs were supposed to fulfil their role. That was the entire point of their creation. The human aspects of the Primarchs, their emotions, ideals, etc overruled in every way against their intelligence and Emperor given gifts. He didn't plan for those human attributes to rule the Primarchs the way they did.
@maltheri9833 So adaptable that 10k years later he couldn't resist going after Guilliman in a temper tantrum while Typhus runs circles around him as Nurgles real champion.
Now he's getting tortured in the House of Nurgle because daddy Emps isn't ready to forgive him yet.
FOR THE KHAGAN!
This is delightful. I love your take on their voices - none of the forced thick Asian accent but a subtle gentle one that hides in the background.
Thank you! Ordu Gamana Jaghatai!
I am glad! I was uncertain about the voices, with both being the first time I've recorded them for the channel.
My thanks!
A good reading can highlight details in the text you never noticed before. I'd never noticed before just how desperate mortarion is in this scene and how smoothly the khan plays it until mortarion tips his hand.
I'm glad I could impart something new to this for you, my thanks!
The Khan, not a single primmarch is more universally liked by the fandom
Jagathai Motherfucking Khan, 10010% Solid Badass
Err,,, Sanguinius?
@@weediestbroom The Weediest has a point. Tied for top.
So... most hated Primarch? I'll start. Lorgar.
@@WynterLegenderebus, not a primarch but fuck erebus
@@WynterLegend I've never actually heard someone say Horus was their favourite primarch. Ever. I've seen people simp for Lorgar, or even Angron, but out of the hundreds of odd unpopular legion enjoyers, I've never found someone with the same level of larp-fuelled devotion towards the Sons of Horus and Horus himself than any other legion.
Which is a shame, honestly. I love the Sons of Horus, even after the betrayal. They have a weird aura about them post-istvaan that they're the personal harbingers of THE Warmaster, the Chosen of the Four, the Arch-Traitor, that no other legion (for me) matches.
They're like the Iron Warriors in that they've mostly retained their wits about them, but unlike the Iron Warriors haven't completely shunned the gifts of the four either. They really were a force to be reckoned with. Their end is also great.
This makes the end of Warhawk even more satisfying.
Always have Warhawk on my night stand
THROAT SINGING INTENSIFIES ⚡️⚡️⚡️🏍🏍🏍
“Curze…? Good luck…”
Cracks me up…
Just finished "Scars" novel. KHAGAN is a freaking G. The way he dissed everyone and send a big "F U" troll message to Russ xD
"Send a message to Russ. Say, 'We can't-' wait, no lies... Say, 'We could, but we won't help.'"
‘Until next winter?’ Russ asked. ‘He really said that?’
What a massively underrated channel. This was brilliant dude
My many thanks!
My man Jaghatai!!!We need more lore for him.The Warhawk is simply awesome.
THE KHAGAN YES! Thank you 💙
Hopefully more of it soon, too!
My thanks for watching!
Love your vids
My thanks!
For the Emperor!!!!!
Mortarion calling anyone else a hypocrite......Irony served on a platter
Of iron
Khans words struck deeper then any cold blade ever cold.
Very well acted. Bravo, Sir!
My many thanks!
Love Jaghatai Khan.
BTW, more Xenos content pls
I do wish to get to some more xenos content soon, too, indeed.
Not sure when I'll have time to get around to it but, soon, I hope.
My thanks for watching!
Oh hell yea been waiting for this recreation for u as a reminberancecr is incredible
Love anything with the Warhawk in it
Amazing reading as always!
Yup, the Khan is definitely one of my favorites.
to me the Khan is one of the smartest primarch, when you have to chose between a "tyrant" (he wasn't if you take chaos into account) and literal evil gods that sht on your soul, he's just like "damn"
a comment to feed the men of iron
I am Alpharius
Any man who must say i am Alpharius is no true Alpharius
@negativezero8174 This is a lie
*racks Bolter
And I am inevitability
*empties magazine in blaze of righteousness
No You are Omegon
Mortarion: Come join us brother.....
Jaghatai Khan: No you filthy hypocrite.
Awesome chad moment🗿🗿🗿🗿
I found the accent of the Khan a little frenchy but i am not an expert neither objective, for I love the Khan and I'm French.
"Lol" The Khan said to his fallen brother. "Lmao"