@@Toodle.Pipp001 I watched it happen here in San Francisco. Then the students get radicalized. But not all of them some of the best sidewalk graffiti is way cool for the good guys.
We used to play this song at our college dorm dances in 1982. It was also a staple on KROQ, a Southern California alternative radio station. The 80's were prolific for some of the most innovative and unique music. I miss those days.....
I had KROQ, KLOS and KMET stickers on my Bumper cruising down Beach Blvd on Friday/Saturday nights in the 80s blasting this and everything else coming outta those radio stations.. Even Pirate Radio that came out of Catalina Island
Highly underrated band (and singer). Just fucking amazing, to be blunt. I loved them decades ago, and today at 60, I make my neighbors nervous as I crank up the old Bose speakers and play some Romeo Void and a handful of other 70s-80s bands. 'It makes my garden happy,' I tell them, as my wife rolls her eyes.
Sadly we are now living with the devastating repercussions of the 80s, the worst decade politically and in terms of mainstream music but the lesser known and alternative bands are a gift that keeps on giving.
@@MattPurvis-gt3ww He sucked a lot less then Carter. You weren't there. Carter tried to price control gas companies( just like Kamala wanted to do to everything). And caused a shortage.
Caryn D Prescott I'm gonna assume that's a yes Caryn ! The 80's had the best music! I'm so Greatful to have been there for it all ! Duran Duran, The Fixx, Talk Talk, Psycadelic Furs, New Order, Joy Division, Depeche Mode, The Cure, Berlin, Simple Minds, Tears For Fears, were just some of the bands I listened too ! I worked in a Club in Cocnut Grove Miami, I listened too great music made great money, forgive me for saying this but I went home with a different girl every night all you needed was an eight ball of Coke and the ladies were there lol....
@@kenbray5682 I remember all of those bands. I taped their songs off of the radio, (WLIR in Long Island, NY) and me and my friends bought the records and made mixtapes for each other. No sex or drugs though. Just rock 'n' roll 🤣😁
I am absolutely confounded as to why this song is not up in the mega millions of views. It's one of the coolest songs the 80's ever produced. And it was cool without trying to be cool. Really shocked this hasn't been rediscovered by a new generation.
When I ask people in my click ever heard of Romeo void, nobody even knows who they are ? I'm like what ? I play the song then most remember the song , at 1st I play a woman in trouble is a temporary thing, no male recognize it, woman tho all of them remember that song
Happy 70th Birthday Debora Kay Iyall 29 April 1954 Romeo Void "Never say never" Love that song.. Yes, that girl with the baby face is now 70. Many, many more Debora
Back in the 1980's I listened to WNUR 89.3 from Northwestern University and they would play this song without bleeping the F word. Excellent tune. BTW, I'm 75, I was born Feb 1946.
Romeo Void was playing a show in Boston. They ran out of songs so they just jammed. They started with that intro then the rest of the song. Rick Ocasek from the cars heard that intro and recorded this song in his studio. The rest is history.
@@BobBurnsOB Oh duh. Yes, Iconic! it sucks though, I saw a little documentary about a reunion they did idk how many years back and the original guy who played sax on this has tinnitus, so he can't play anymore. ;(
Straight up bad ass punk jazz and rock. That chick I remember when this came out when I was in Jr high and I was like that chick is bad ass. It's a m t.v classic
I did all I could to support them. I purchased multiple copies of their albums. Made my own Romeo Void t shirts at Kinkos and other t shirt making shops when others wore Van Halen , Queen , Dio etc. I didn't care .I liked Romeo Void and that's who i promoted all the time for years and still doing so right now.
@@vincesmith2499 You’re partly right. I think it was a mistake for the record label to not promote the lead singer and embrace her largess. There have been a few fat big women rock stars including mama Cass who was loved by the public. I think her fatness coupled with her tough East LA personality should have been more emphasized. Kinda like the anti Madonna.
They were in the rotation on 106.7 (The World Famous) KROQ all the time... Rodney Bingenheimer (one of The Roq's DJs) interviewed the band on his show.
Absolutely right. I can only imagine what great songs this magnificent band would have created, so talented and special. and it seems they were also victims of marketing, taking away support for their image, ignoring their artistic potential. as you say it is a crime. well I thank their members for their work that they left us.
@@JudgeHill I could not agree with you more!!! We absolutely DID know we had it good, but couldn't have imagined the drastic changes ahead. Personally speaking, I feel as though 9/11 was "the paradigm shifter". I was 30 going on 31 when it happened and it almost feels like 2 time lines now.
Does anyone know how good they have it? When they'd rather complain than find what's good in the world? Did older people beat the "your generations music sucks" line over your heads til you couldn't tell anymore? Maybe don't do that to the next generation...too fucking late.
Nah. There were a lot of media products, but the bad ones were just erased by the flow of time, and now we only remember the good ones. The same thing with every decade.
It would have been nice to see where they would have gone if Columbia hadn't been fucking tools and pulled support. They were unique and had a great sound, Romeo Void deserved so much better
@@ROOKTABULA …maybe there was even “more legal” cocaine in the 20’s. If I remember correctly, cocaine was in all types of remedies, snake oils and prescription tonics! Maybe that’s why it was socially acceptable!!??!!?? However, the 80’s brought us great music and oodles of coke for almost everyone!! I’m glad I stopped 20 years later. It’s not safe for anyone these days…unless you’ve got really serious ties with someone-but the Fentanyl is everywhere now & my son just lost a childhood friend from an overdose. Three years ago my neighbor died from an overdose. Yep, the 80’s were great☮️
I was 25 when this song came out and it was always played at the clubs. Everybody got up to dance including my wife (my girlfriend at the time). We are both 66 now and to hear this, brings back those great days of clubbing at NUTS AND BOLTS in Toronto.
I first heard this song in that badass 🎬 movie I think it was called Reckless I'm guessing with the Adrian Quinn and Daryl Hannah and then it came out in that other movie that's a great movie too with DiCaprio The Wolf of Wall Street good stuff !!
I cannot BELIEVE in 2015 people are dissing this song because the singer weighed more than the average 20-something female pop singer. You don't have to like the song - it wasn't written to make one feel comfortable, and punk/new wave was not/is not for everybody, but making derogatory comments about this work, just because the singer had extra pounds, is IGNORANT. Criticizing her weight has NOTHING, nothing at all to do with the great and ORIGINAL music this band created, for a very brief time, during a rare time in pop music history. Now go listen to your old Back Street Boys' CD's - they kept the weight off, so I guess to weak tastes, that music sounds better.
Lyndra Ski Unfortunately, American minds have regressed a lot since the time this video was made. I think ideas about gender appearance for women are much narrower than they were back then - not that Deborah was considered conventionally attractive then, but there didn't seem to be as much of an insistence on all women looking like Barbie dolls as there is now. In the seventies and eighties, even female models were much more muscular, and thus less skinny, than models now, let alone the cookie-cutter female pop singers around these days.
colibri1 Even in the Modeling industry, when they hire what they call plus "size models", thinking they are being innovative and risky, their idea of "plus size" is what we normal people would call an average body type. I personally, find chubby women very attractive and skinny women.... not so much. It is sick, that the media cannot seem to look past a woman's body and see a talented singer, actress, or a beautiful woman who would be a great model.
Jeffrey P Is this about the music or your war with models and the size and look of the lead female singer...its very insulting to the singer ..who cares what you prefer .
I was lucky to actually meet Deborah one night in a club in San Francisco. It was my pleasure to tell her that this song was one of the songs that inspired me to pick up an instrument and start playing in bands!!
Yes this is an all-around excellent song. Beyond that, as a young girl, I was fascinated by this band-especially the singer. That a bigger girl could be so confident, so brazen, and sexual in a sea of beautiful female singers blew me away. She was the original body positivity poster child. Bringing it!
Absolutely im a 80s metal guy who grew up in the 80s on the lower east side cbgbs mud club maxes And this song is the epitome of 80s bad ass shit ..Just great memories my 68 Dodge Charger my German Shepherd and My Beautiful hot 5ft9 Irish gf you know who you are the sex the youth Romeo Void and this record just brings me back..I hope everyone in this band understands the great feelings listening to NEVER say NEVER, God bless just amazing music til its to late, mucho respect!
@@jamestolson2526 Listening to it I discover more and more I like. The guitar in the background has an edge of hurried intensity to it. Back when this was hot I was hitting the new wave clubs listening to the likes of Flock of Seagulls, etc. with my now ex-wife. Sadly those good times didn't lead to a good marriage. :-/
The lead singer in Question name is Deborah Iyall and she is 62 now and she is Native American. very sharp and intelligent woman for some of you that only see size. Romeo void had Been together for for a couple of years in late 70s. she is also an activist with her native people.
Deb, you got the last name wrong. It's Eye-ALL...and lemme tell ya, her family will let you know it! I know a lot of her family, and her Uncle Ray. Her cousin Mike was a friend of mine, killed by a drunk driver after dropping off Uncle Ray after a Dawgs game at UW.
At the San Francisco Punk Reunion she watched my piece Purging the O in Other and she commented, "She's Naked". Proud moment hearing my idol praise my work
Ahead of its time? Sounds like it came out in 1978, not 1981. Good song, but definitly not ahead of its time. I mean punk had moved on. To put this song in perspective, Remain in Light came out in 1980.
Yeah but does Once In A Lifetime have a saxophone solo!? I don't think so! Who looks dumb now!? Still me probably for being petty! But whatever, I totally feel better now!
abcdefh1992............... The two most over used words on your youtube are "Ahead of it's time" and "underrated" when almost always the song was exactly OF it's time and most of the time the band or song was greatly acknowledged.
Matthew Wilson..............So a saxophone solo puts the song "ahead of it's time? Lot's of songs have sax solos in them, Who Could It Be Now by Men At Work comes to mind and that song came out around the same time. Were they ahead of their time too?
Deborah became an Art Teacher in my high school (Desert Hot Springs High School) around 2013/2014, I'm not sure if she's till there. Around the same time Wolf of Wall street was released and featured her song. Pretty dope fact.
Nadia Valdovinos Way dope fact, Nadia ! I’ve wondered whatever happened to her for years. Gotta be around somewhere. She was nutso talented, and very charming and intelligent when I met her. Glad to know that she gathered herself after the band. Thank you for the update!
I think she wasn’t as big-maybe on the West Coast but not on the East Coast. Underrated! Her voice was better than Debbie’s ... & you are talking to someone who is picky and old school!
Fall of '84 I was working at a downtown SF hardware store and Ben Bossi was a regular. He'd come in for his bulk packs of Norton ear plugs and we'd have a word or two about the band and the club scene. Really nice guy. Was saddened to hear of his death last December.
Artful Dodger More like the effing suits didn't find her attractive enough to front a band and recommended getting a sexier singer to take her place. The music was more important than making money for the greedy bastards upstairs so a deal was never struck. That's what I heard, anyway.
Handy Man hear, hear--they and Iyall were great, anyway they say that living well is the best revenge, I'm faceback friends with Debora and she has had a good life as a teacher and artist, and she is happily married.r
Back in the day all it took was to hear the opening chords of this and people would literally be fighting to get on the dance floor. 40 years later this still slaps.
@Hippy Gumbo You clearly have neither heard or seen Orson Welles from back in the day. Since your attack reference is about Deborah not being a stick-figure, interchangeable parts Barbie doll, it is entirely unsurprising that you are unaware that Orson Welles was actually pretty fit in his earlier roles.
I’m glad she’s not a fake person like the most current crop of singers. She’s talented and has moxie, and like the real intent of the punk movement, it’s to upset the establishment. Her not being a size zero, and the reaction from the “but she’s not skinny” whiners commenting here, it’s mission accomplished from the OG punk movement.
Such a tragic band. Love them. Lead singer was an alcoholic for a long time. Bassist is still extremely embittered by how the record company handled the band. Sax player went deaf, can't even hear his own music anymore. It's frocked. This was such a good band. And not just this song. Go listen to both their albums. They're both really good from start to finish. I try to crank on Never Say Never at every juke box I come across.
I was surprised and instantly saddened to come across this comment. I can't believe this is the first I've heard of Ric's passing away - that was almost 6 months ago. Another amazing icon of the 80s who was a huge part of my 'coming of age' with music as a child. I also wasn't aware of his producing career - not surprising at all.
It was featured in a prom (?) scene in the movie RECKLESS (1984, Aidan Quinn, Daryl Hannah). The poor boy from the wrong side of the tracks seems to be letting out some very destructive feelings. ruclips.net/video/RzvCUyv59OA/видео.html
Wow I haven't heard this in years!!
This song is and always will be epic
Better believe it.
This song kicks azz
Awesome song! The best.
I always liked this song- still do!
The singer was my art teacher freshman year of high school! Best art teacher I had! ✨💜
They say that's what went wrong in politics, all the punks went into arts education instead.
@@Toodle.Pipp001 I watched it happen here in San Francisco. Then the students get radicalized. But not all of them some of the best sidewalk graffiti is way cool for the good guys.
@@Toodle.Pipp001 it's true. Lol. Look how all the hippies turned out from the 60s and 70s... Politically. They really changed
@@SpiritGirlSF keep sniffing wood glue.
Sick.
We used to play this song at our college dorm dances in 1982. It was also a staple on KROQ, a Southern California alternative radio station. The 80's were prolific for some of the most innovative and unique music. I miss those days.....
❤yes!!!
I born 1982 !! 😛😅
I had KROQ, KLOS and KMET stickers on my Bumper cruising down Beach Blvd on Friday/Saturday nights in the 80s blasting this and everything else coming outta those radio stations.. Even Pirate Radio that came out of Catalina Island
KTYD radio station in the 80’s, UCSB
Samezies
Highly underrated band (and singer). Just fucking amazing, to be blunt. I loved them decades ago, and today at 60, I make my neighbors nervous as I crank up the old Bose speakers and play some Romeo Void and a handful of other 70s-80s bands. 'It makes my garden happy,' I tell them, as my wife rolls her eyes.
😂😂👍
😂😂❤️❤️
Awesome comment! We all want happy gardens 🎉
I love it! 👏👏👏💋
Someone take wifey by the hand and get her dancing!!!
This is one of those songs, "Once you hear it, you never forget it".
@@riptheripper9060”… Never say never…” 🤣. I’m 64 but I still love this song!!!☮️
Turns out years later...the girl just wanted to get Laid. Song passed the test😂 she didn't. No... creativity 😮
This was in a movie soundtrack , cant remember the movie but never forgot the song
@ 1984, was in the film Reckless…used during dance footage. Love it!!!
I’m 62 and still listening to this great Romeo Void tune
Same!! Cheers 🍻🥯🍻🥯🍻🌊🏄♂️🇺🇸🌞🤙🏻
61 here.
65 here listening in August 2024!!!
63 here. A great fan from day one on :- )
I’m 60 and right with you!
The 80's were a very innovative period.
Sadly we are now living with the devastating repercussions of the 80s, the worst decade politically and in terms of mainstream music but the lesser known and alternative bands are a gift that keeps on giving.
@finebetty7446 - 80s music kicked ass....I don't know what you're talkin about. Reagan sucked tho.
@@finebetty7446 We are now living with the repercussions of the 60's I think.
@@MattPurvis-gt3ww He sucked a lot less then Carter. You weren't there. Carter tried to price control gas companies( just like Kamala wanted to do to everything). And caused a shortage.
This was a good group.
NEVER SAY NEVER...IT'S 2024 WHO OUT THERE IS STILL LISTENING TO THIS GREAT MUSIC?
I will never forget this song😊
1981 vintage great year for music much better than today than the noise they call music now.@@mattreneau-fs1hm
Indeed
@@teecutie3471
Me of course.
I don't listen to Romeo Void often, but when I do,....SO DO THE NEIGHBORS!
Right on. 🤣 This one's a fuckin' banger!
For the win!
Oh yes me too. You have to crank this song up or it's no good to listen to and dance and sing too...party!
That's absolutely brilliant.
LOL, great comment, I just shared it.
Who fuckin loved this song back in the 80's and still does ? 😜
🙋🏿♀️
Caryn D Prescott I'm gonna assume that's a yes Caryn ! The 80's had the best music! I'm so Greatful to have been there for it all ! Duran Duran, The Fixx, Talk Talk, Psycadelic Furs, New Order, Joy Division, Depeche Mode, The Cure, Berlin, Simple Minds, Tears For Fears, were just some of the bands I listened too ! I worked in a Club in Cocnut Grove Miami, I listened too great music made great money, forgive me for saying this but I went home with a different girl every night all you needed was an eight ball of Coke and the ladies were there lol....
@@kenbray5682 I remember all of those bands. I taped their songs off of the radio, (WLIR in Long Island, NY) and me and my friends bought the records and made mixtapes for each other. No sex or drugs though. Just rock 'n' roll 🤣😁
Caryn D Prescott Those were the good ole days ! But I do have the memories....
Your sister!
Great song then and now
The energy from this song could power a small town. Incredible.
It actually powered the whole country thru the 80’s 😎
You got that right!!!!!!
Dude this song is a trip. I remember when it came out. Totally original. Love it.
I always preferred Mexican Radio.. 😄
@@kelf114 I’m on a Mexican whoa-o radio
New Wave was my JAM in the 80's
So good. Thank you
Who is watching this and STILL loving it in 2024?
Never been a fan of punk but, it has a catchy melody
@@jameswhalen4507 64 and still can’t stay still when I hear this song!
It's timeless 👍
Hell yeah!
I saw Romeo Void play this song in a small club in Seattle around 1982
I am absolutely confounded as to why this song is not up in the mega millions of views. It's one of the coolest songs the 80's ever produced. And it was cool without trying to be cool. Really shocked this hasn't been rediscovered by a new generation.
When I ask people in my click ever heard of Romeo void, nobody even knows who they are ? I'm like what ? I play the song then most remember the song , at 1st I play a woman in trouble is a temporary thing, no male recognize it, woman tho all of them remember that song
Hey - been listening to this for decades. Some of us don't forget... 🙂
I love the song always have. We're they one hit? Boston locals? That venue looks like the rat
@@danniflood812 had another hit , a girl in trouble (is a temporary thing) .
Play it more driving down the freeway, with the windows down ;)
in a hundred years... this will still be a killer song.
It’s always been great since it first came out back in the day
It already is.
i"m bout to give it a listen for the first time.
Oh.
Agreed..........
She rocks.
Happy 70th Birthday Debora Kay Iyall 29 April 1954
Romeo Void "Never say never" Love that song..
Yes, that girl with the baby face is now 70.
Many, many more Debora
I love that song. I remember when it came out.
Hay all I have t👀Say is they Rock 🎶. 👈. 😉
The only thing I don't like about this song, is every time I play it my volume mysteriously goes way up!
She definitely had the right voice for that time.
This is such a strange song. I love it.
A real original band. We need them NOW!!!!!!!
This song is so underrated, it should be freaking ICONIC
Takes me right back to the 80’s great f-ing song!
it is
It is to those who know better.
Underrated yes. iconic yes.
It’s freaking ICONIC to me! Debra Iyall is da bomb, so is the whole band!!
God... the intro, the bass line, and her voice. This song is just amazing.
Back in the 1980's I listened to WNUR 89.3 from Northwestern University and they would play this song without bleeping the F word. Excellent tune. BTW, I'm 75, I was born Feb 1946.
Romeo Void was playing a show in Boston. They ran out of songs so they just jammed. They started with that intro then the rest of the song. Rick Ocasek from the cars heard that intro and recorded this song in his studio. The rest is history.
And the sax too!
And an absolutely killer line: "I might like you better...."
@@BobBurnsOB Oh duh. Yes, Iconic! it sucks though, I saw a little documentary about a reunion they did idk how many years back and the original guy who played sax on this has tinnitus, so he can't play anymore. ;(
Straight up bad ass punk jazz and rock. That chick I remember when this came out when I was in Jr high and I was like that chick is bad ass. It's a m t.v classic
I did all I could to support them. I purchased multiple copies of their albums. Made my own Romeo Void t shirts at Kinkos and other t shirt making shops when others wore Van Halen , Queen , Dio etc. I didn't care .I liked Romeo Void and that's who i promoted all the time for years and still doing so right now.
Never understood why Romeo Void wasn’t a bigger band in the 80s. They should have been huge.
It's because their vocalist was obese.
@@vincesmith2499 You’re partly right. I think it was a mistake for the record label to not promote the lead singer and embrace her largess. There have been a few fat big women rock stars including mama Cass who was loved by the public. I think her fatness coupled with her tough East LA personality should have been more emphasized. Kinda like the anti Madonna.
They were in the rotation on 106.7 (The World Famous) KROQ all the time... Rodney Bingenheimer (one of The Roq's DJs) interviewed the band on his show.
the public might've liked them better if they slept together with their fans.
@@srujan00 Who would have slept with her?
This song was the embodiment of L.A. New Wave. Criminally underrated band.
San Francisco Bay area band.
Fuck yeah
Vice city embodiment hahaha
Absolutely right. I can only imagine what great songs this magnificent band would have created, so talented and special. and it seems they were also victims of marketing, taking away support for their image, ignoring their artistic potential. as you say it is a crime. well I thank their members for their work that they left us.
nah…this not underrated
Damn miss those days!!!!
Masterpiece! No doubt. Underrated song and band.
Debora Iyall is a multi-talented artist who has set a fine example for other Native American artists. A unique and original talent! 😊
That bass playing is rock solid.
Love this!❤
The sound of 80s college radio. Long live U92 the Moose!
WE TEENAGERS FROM THE 80s DIDNT KNOW HOW GOOD WE HAD IT WITH MTV AND ALL THE GREAT BANDS LIKE ROMEO VOID
Joseph Jucutan We knew we had it good - we just didn’t realize it was all soon to go to shit.
#truth
@@JudgeHill I could not agree with you more!!! We absolutely DID know we had it good, but couldn't have imagined the drastic changes ahead. Personally speaking, I feel as though 9/11 was "the paradigm shifter". I was 30 going on 31 when it happened and it almost feels like 2 time lines now.
Danielle Marin It’s true - the 90s ended in 2001 and it’s been socially and culturally “challenging” ever since.
Does anyone know how good they have it? When they'd rather complain than find what's good in the world? Did older people beat the "your generations music sucks" line over your heads til you couldn't tell anymore? Maybe don't do that to the next generation...too fucking late.
I loved this band. A punk/new wave band fronted by a Native American woman with great songs. Aweseome.
Koolbeans❗ What tribe is she from??? ❤😀
@allen iverson kool thanks...
@Mr. Derp I think that went over everyone's heads good one!
She just received a " Life Time Achievement Award" by the Native American Music Awards this month! How awesome is that!!!!
Thanks for the quick fact info, I never knew that one!
Awesome song
This is what made the 80's great.
People with talent being talented and not being media product's.
You got it
Keith Smith Well-stated, sir.
Nah. There were a lot of media products, but the bad ones were just erased by the flow of time, and now we only remember the good ones. The same thing with every decade.
Insidious One Good point, and not even remotely insidious.
Keith Smith what about milli vanilla and black box
This band deserves a Rock n Roll hall of Fame
It would have been nice to see where they would have gone if Columbia hadn't been fucking tools and pulled support. They were unique and had a great sound, Romeo Void deserved so much better
I LOVE ROMEO VOID, with the REAL SINGER!
Remarkable song
The 80s were America's roaring 20s. What a blast that decade was.
Especially in San Francisco
FACTS
"Roaring 20s" localized entirely within Thessaloniki (??)
The Roaring 20s were the Roaring 20s.
Way more cocaine in the 80s.
@@ROOKTABULA …maybe there was even “more legal” cocaine in the 20’s. If I remember correctly, cocaine was in all types of remedies, snake oils and prescription tonics! Maybe that’s why it was socially acceptable!!??!!?? However, the 80’s brought us great music and oodles of coke for almost everyone!!
I’m glad I stopped 20 years later. It’s not safe for anyone these days…unless you’ve got really serious ties with someone-but the Fentanyl is everywhere now & my son just lost a childhood friend from an overdose. Three years ago my neighbor died from an overdose.
Yep, the 80’s were great☮️
I was 25 when this song came out and it was always played at the clubs. Everybody got up to dance including my wife (my girlfriend at the time). We are both 66 now and to hear this, brings back those great days of clubbing at NUTS AND BOLTS in Toronto.
💃 66yrs young 💃 ☠ 🎼
I first heard this song in that badass 🎬 movie I think it was called Reckless I'm guessing with the Adrian Quinn and Daryl Hannah and then it came out in that other movie that's a great movie too with DiCaprio The Wolf of Wall Street good stuff !!
My husband and I are also in our sixties, dancing like teenagers to this song.
Poseurs in Georgetown in D.C.
My future husband and I very much did the same in Providence RI...We're the same age as you two,
And she clearly has the killer voice❤
I like the singer. ❤❤ she is hot
Love talented BBWs
The singer is a show stopping force you won’t see again. And you don’t deserve her she’s from a higher place. Baby bet your ass!
So ahead of its time......
I cannot BELIEVE in 2015 people are dissing this song because the singer weighed more than the average 20-something female pop singer. You don't have to like the song - it wasn't written to make one feel comfortable, and punk/new wave was not/is not for everybody, but making derogatory comments about this work, just because the singer had extra pounds, is IGNORANT. Criticizing her weight has NOTHING, nothing at all to do with the great and ORIGINAL music this band created, for a very brief time, during a rare time in pop music history. Now go listen to your old Back Street Boys' CD's - they kept the weight off, so I guess to weak tastes, that music sounds better.
but that was the 80's, how were people fat in the 80's?
Lyndra Ski Debora was awesome! That was a really provocative and sexy song, Lyndra.
Lyndra Ski Unfortunately, American minds have regressed a lot since the time this video was made. I think ideas about gender appearance for women are much narrower than they were back then - not that Deborah was considered conventionally attractive then, but there didn't seem to be as much of an insistence on all women looking like Barbie dolls as there is now. In the seventies and eighties, even female models were much more muscular, and thus less skinny, than models now, let alone the cookie-cutter female pop singers around these days.
colibri1 Even in the Modeling industry, when they hire what they call plus "size models", thinking they are being innovative and risky, their idea of "plus size" is what we normal people would call an average body type. I personally, find chubby women very attractive and skinny women.... not so much. It is sick, that the media cannot seem to look past a woman's body and see a talented singer, actress, or a beautiful woman who would be a great model.
Jeffrey P Is this about the music or your war with models and the size and look of the lead female singer...its very insulting to the singer ..who cares what you prefer .
Great song. Still.
I was lucky to actually meet Deborah one night in a club in San Francisco. It was my pleasure to tell her that this song was one of the songs that inspired me to pick up an instrument and start playing in bands!!
Weren't they an S.F. band?? The 80's were awesome for music !
I danced with her in a gay club in Seattle. We danced to this song!!
Yes this is an all-around excellent song. Beyond that, as a young girl, I was fascinated by this band-especially the singer. That a bigger girl could be so confident, so brazen, and sexual in a sea of beautiful female singers blew me away. She was the original body positivity poster child. Bringing it!
Yes. Agreed
"Original Body Positivity Poster Child"?
No disrespect, but I have an earlier candidate:
"Mama" Cass Elliott.
agreed! Moms took me to see her in 1985 and moms loved her vibe. She was so amazing! Love her
Check out The Gossip. They also rock 😁
Awesome fun tune!
The opening guitar riff... the drummer going off... that sick bass line... this HAS to be one of the best lead-ins to a song ever.
Absolutely im a 80s metal guy who grew up in the 80s on the lower east side cbgbs mud club maxes And this song is the epitome of 80s bad ass shit ..Just great memories my 68 Dodge Charger my German Shepherd and My Beautiful hot 5ft9 Irish gf you know who you are the sex the youth Romeo Void and this record just brings me back..I hope everyone in this band understands the great feelings listening to NEVER say NEVER, God bless just amazing music til its to late, mucho respect!
@@jamestolson2526 Listening to it I discover more and more I like. The guitar in the background has an edge of hurried intensity to it. Back when this was hot I was hitting the new wave clubs listening to the likes of Flock of Seagulls, etc. with my now ex-wife. Sadly those good times didn't lead to a good marriage. :-/
Good wild song, it will last forever
Oh yeah
I know, right. I was thinking the same 3xact thing
Great song, great band!
I had forgotten this song. It's great!
The lead singer in Question name is Deborah Iyall and she is 62 now and she is Native American. very sharp and intelligent woman for some of you that only see size. Romeo void had Been together for for a couple of years in late 70s. she is also an activist with her native people.
Maxx JAX she is my Dad's 2nd cousin
and pronounced "DebORah isle".
Maxx JAX she is 64.
Deb, you got the last name wrong. It's Eye-ALL...and lemme tell ya, her family will let you know it! I know a lot of her family, and her Uncle Ray. Her cousin Mike was a friend of mine, killed by a drunk driver after dropping off Uncle Ray after a Dawgs game at UW.
Aniyunwiya Ageya she's a friend of mine, and this is how she says to say it.
Im 66 and i loved this song then and i love it now!!!
I'm 66 and I Loved it then and now too!!!!
Same 👍
I'm 78 and still.digging on it!
I love this song and band, she is beautiful in her way, piss off haters, we Gen x got each other.
At the San Francisco Punk Reunion she watched my piece Purging the O in Other and she commented,
"She's Naked". Proud moment hearing my idol praise my work
This song kicked ass back in the day!!
Forget looks, she brings it along with the rest of the band. Completely real, with heart
This song was a cut!!! 🔥🔥🔥
This song is so influential and ahead of it's time. A shame it's not given the credit it deserves.
Ahead of its time? Sounds like it came out in 1978, not 1981. Good song, but definitly not ahead of its time. I mean punk had moved on. To put this song in perspective, Remain in Light came out in 1980.
Yeah but does Once In A Lifetime have a saxophone solo!? I don't think so! Who looks dumb now!? Still me probably for being petty! But whatever, I totally feel better now!
abcdefh1992............... The two most over used words on your youtube are "Ahead of it's time" and "underrated" when almost always the song was exactly OF it's time and most of the time the band or song was greatly acknowledged.
I never noticed it before, but Kim Gordon of Sonic Youth must have been influenced by this singer. Very similar vocal style.
Matthew Wilson..............So a saxophone solo puts the song "ahead of it's time? Lot's of songs have sax solos in them, Who Could It Be Now by Men At Work comes to mind and that song came out around the same time. Were they ahead of their time too?
I can't believe that it's been 40 years since songs like this were the rave. Where has the time gone?
Oi, vey! Probably jumpin in to quell the other, bettr stuff!
To the hips, thighs and belly for me
"Things were good when we were young!!" The Von Bondies!!
Deborah became an Art Teacher in my high school (Desert Hot Springs High School) around 2013/2014, I'm not sure if she's till there. Around the same time Wolf of Wall street was released and featured her song. Pretty dope fact.
That's awesome.
Nadia Valdovinos Way dope fact, Nadia ! I’ve wondered whatever happened to her for years. Gotta be around somewhere. She was nutso talented, and very charming and intelligent when I met her. Glad to know that she gathered herself after the band. Thank you for the update!
Desert Springs as in Las Vegas?
@@michaelthebike8246 10 miles north of Palm Springs.
@@michaelthebike8246 Desert Hot Springs.
Love this song. Great band!!
When you hear that opening guitar riff..you know this song is going to rock,and don't get me started on that bass...
*Really* well said!
I personally think that the bass-work makes this song, but then I'm a bass fanatic, Soooo!!! 😉
@Mike Gee: "Reckless" - love that scene.
In my memory this chick will always have one of the coolest voices in rock. The first time I heard "A Girl in Trouble" I was like, WOW.
Checkout Concrete Blonde - Johnette Napolitano
I can't think of anything like this, which is a huge compliment, Berlin Up North. It's everything, but what a fantastic singer.
Girl in Trouble was my theme song. 1982
Deborah and I were early Internet penpals... She's awesome.
One of the many great female lead new wave rock bands that came in the wake of Blondie, and never got to be big like they should have.
She got plenty big
She was huge!
She never said never to seconds!
I think she wasn’t as big-maybe on the West Coast but not on the East Coast. Underrated! Her voice was better than Debbie’s ... & you are talking to someone who is picky and old school!
Great song.
RIP to Benjamin Bossi and those sax licks he killed it on...
Bummer
I never loved sax as much as when listening to this band. They incorporated it like no one else.
Deafness to death..diesnt seem fair..
Fall of '84 I was working at a downtown SF hardware store and Ben Bossi was a regular. He'd come in for his bulk packs of Norton ear plugs and we'd have a word or two about the band and the club scene. Really nice guy. Was saddened to hear of his death last December.
Oh NO! Sad to hear, but thanks for letting us know. One of the greats.
I loved this group and Debora’s amazing poetry.
A band that was way ahead of their time.
yes,,sadly why they didnt get any futher w/ the music they made....
becky m Because Debora Iyall couldn't push away from the table.
Artful Dodger
More like the effing suits didn't find her attractive enough to front a band and recommended getting a sexier singer to take her place. The music was more important than making money for the greedy bastards upstairs so a deal was never struck. That's what I heard, anyway.
Handy Man hear, hear--they and Iyall were great, anyway they say that living well is the best revenge, I'm faceback friends with Debora and she has had a good life as a teacher and artist, and she is happily married.r
FIRE.
I have always thought her voice is stunning
А сама чот не оч :С
Oh hell yeah! One of the most underrated ones!😀
She's my art teacher
+Jackaboi900 you can tell her i have gray respect for her talent, all the way from New Zealand.
+Geoffrey Aldwinckle ok I will
Back in the day all it took was to hear the opening chords of this and people would literally be fighting to get on the dance floor. 40 years later this still slaps.
You should have seen it in the punk and psychobilly clubs in Germany! It was fuckin mayhem LMFA
why y'all hating the singer. I love her! that voice is mesmerising!
Strong women tend to scare weak men, who seem to be the only ones hating on her :)
i'm sure the shitty obnoxious song doesn't have anything to do with it.
Oh FUK off no is hating in the comments you ducking liberal
@@plasticweapon The song is neither. You, on the other hand, ...
@Hippy Gumbo You clearly have neither heard or seen Orson Welles from back in the day. Since your attack reference is about Deborah not being a stick-figure, interchangeable parts Barbie doll, it is entirely unsurprising that you are unaware that Orson Welles was actually pretty fit in his earlier roles.
Hell yes.
I miss the 80’s 😊❤
I’m glad she’s not a fake person like the most current crop of singers. She’s talented and has moxie, and like the real intent of the punk movement, it’s to upset the establishment. Her not being a size zero, and the reaction from the “but she’s not skinny” whiners commenting here, it’s mission accomplished from the OG punk movement.
The most 80s song to have ever 80s'ed!
This is the original poetry slam. Never Say Never!
NEVER JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER!!! THE SONG FU*KIN ROCKS...NUFF SAID !
Jon Santos Dont you Judge a book by its cover...
Unless you cover just another....
Such a tragic band. Love them. Lead singer was an alcoholic for a long time. Bassist is still extremely embittered by how the record company handled the band. Sax player went deaf, can't even hear his own music anymore. It's frocked. This was such a good band. And not just this song. Go listen to both their albums. They're both really good from start to finish. I try to crank on Never Say Never at every juke box I come across.
Damn. Sounds like they need to make a biopic of this band.
Thanks. I’ll check them out.
How horrible. I heard she passed from breast cancer a few years ago.
@@lyndraski4152 Debora is alive and well and living in New Mexico with her husband.
I am very glad to hear that!@@i_am_talin
she has THE BEST punk voice- ever
You've never heard of Poly Styrene and The X-Ray Spex then
Wow, your right.
Nope.
@@ElLay she must be an English thing so fair enough in context but otherwise just…no.
she is more post-punk. Punk is usually screaming
That song is effing great
Another amazing band (and song) produced by the late Ric Ocasek (RIP 9/15/19)
@Tyler Ducharme Good Bad Brains trivia knowledge dude! They all thought they were selling out... Rock For Light!
I was surprised and instantly saddened to come across this comment. I can't believe this is the first I've heard of Ric's passing away - that was almost 6 months ago. Another amazing icon of the 80s who was a huge part of my 'coming of age' with music as a child. I also wasn't aware of his producing career - not surprising at all.
Awe man I didn’t know :(
sorry kids but the 80's will always be the greatest decade in the history of music.
Wrong
Dead wrong lmao
The late 60's thru 70's were best especially the early 70's.
@@harryberry474wrong
@@scooter6582not wrong
Debora was way ahead of her time and RV was a great band
Exactly!! Loved them. All I ever noticed about Deborah was her supreme talent and sex appeal.
Still an awesome song
Can not deny the electricity in this killer song
That's cool
Don't be glib
Mannnn, that opening guitar riff is brutal! Fell in love with this video and the lead singer way back in 80s. The raw energy of both are incredible!
that opening guitar riff is bangin
Whenever this song came on, everyone hit the dance floor.
It was featured in a prom (?) scene in the movie RECKLESS (1984, Aidan Quinn, Daryl Hannah). The poor boy from the wrong side of the tracks seems to be letting out some very destructive feelings.
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never say two king buttole
Yes, we did ;-}
Yes! Best line ever in a song. "I might like you better if we slept together."
That’s true
Man, this got a lot of airplay in the SF Bay Area! Incredibly memorable.