Teaching An Old Dog New SHOOTING BENCH Tricks

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  • Опубликовано: 6 авг 2024
  • Welcome to Ron Spomer Outdoors! In today's episode, I try out advice from all of you to see if I can shoot more consistently from the bench. I tried several different approaches, but do any of them work? We'll find out on this episode of Ron Spomer Outdoors.
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    Who is Ron Spomer
    For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion - the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me - from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.
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  • @shawnhartman7374
    @shawnhartman7374 8 месяцев назад +90

    Huge respect for you trying others suggestions rather than just taking offense!

    • @USAACbrat
      @USAACbrat 8 месяцев назад +5

      even when they are contradictory or keyboard warriors.

    • @joshsinglefooter
      @joshsinglefooter 8 месяцев назад +4

      Except this is a good way to get the comments turned off. Folks should stop complaining.

    • @muleybuckco
      @muleybuckco 8 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@joshsinglefooterbingo... Hell half of them commenting couldn't hold a moa group if paid to do so

    • @joshsinglefooter
      @joshsinglefooter 8 месяцев назад +1

      @muleybuckco exactly.
      I thinks it free to set up a youtube channel

    • @js7127
      @js7127 8 месяцев назад

      @@joshsinglefooter Well said!!!

  • @TradinTigerJohn
    @TradinTigerJohn 8 месяцев назад +54

    Ron, your accomplishments over the years make you a master outdoorsman and hunter. Your receptiveness to new techniques and willingness to test them make you a national treasure. I learn useful new things from all of your videos. As a senior hunter myself, I am inspired to test and evaluate techniques I wouldn't have thought of on my own. As a teacher, you've certainly found your calling. Thank you.

    • @RonSpomerOutdoors
      @RonSpomerOutdoors  8 месяцев назад +8

      Thank you for this kind compliment, John. Wishing you all the best with your shooting.

    • @kentuckywindage222
      @kentuckywindage222 8 месяцев назад +3

      Best comment!
      Agree 💯.
      A humble man with lot's of real world hunting knowledge. Willing to accept criticism and try new techniques. This is why Ron Spomer has been and is the iconic personality he is today.
      Excellent video.
      Keep'em coming!

    • @JW...-oj5iw
      @JW...-oj5iw 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@RonSpomerOutdoors ... Hey Ron, I've discovered a problem with optical sights for me. As I've aged, I wear cheap reading glasses in various magnification. 2 power for all around vision and I add a second pair to get enough to read small print. I happened to try a shot from my break barrel pneumatic with my scope at 7x. Shot missed the mark and I happened to examine the impact point through the scope with my GP readers on as I looked through the tube, my face moved a bit and the image shifted. Holy crap, my readers have lots of effect on the crosshairs. Took the specs off and viewed again with nothing between my eye and scope. The image is perfectly natural and pellets go where they're supposed to. I know you are obligated to show eye protection in your videos, but it might have a detrimental effect on targeting.

    • @willanslow5719
      @willanslow5719 8 месяцев назад +2

      That first group is 2 moa, not sub moa. First shot was in the bullseye, second shot was 2" higher, and third shot between the first 2

    • @willanslow5719
      @willanslow5719 8 месяцев назад +1

      That first group is 2 moa, not sub moa. First shot was in the bullseye, second shot was 2" higher, and third shot between the first 2

  • @dominicteresi3835
    @dominicteresi3835 8 месяцев назад +84

    Don't let these guys bully you, Ron. If it works, don't change your style. If your really throwing flyers all the time then try something else. That goes for everyone

    • @PJ_Perry
      @PJ_Perry 8 месяцев назад +5

      Thank God someone else sees what I see ..smh ron Clearly been shooting for years and clearly shoots just fine

    • @MarkyTree-hs5kw
      @MarkyTree-hs5kw 8 месяцев назад +2

      I would listen to Ron before any of these talkers on the internet. These seasoned guys like Ron have learned techniques in the school of hard knocks

    • @michaelmontoya2437
      @michaelmontoya2437 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@MarkyTree-hs5kw 100%. I’ll trust a verified expert than anyone of these guys. They don’t see their comments are embarrassing.

    • @rvrski1
      @rvrski1 6 месяцев назад

      Opinions and criticism aren’t bullying, guntubers by providing their opinions in content invite conflicting discourse, at least Ron’s more secure in himself than many of you are with or without any faults behind a rifle….😂

    • @rvrski1
      @rvrski1 6 месяцев назад

      I like listening to Ron, he’s easy listening but those that defend him against any negative feedback are insufferable fud 🤡’s.
      Ron handles alternative opinions and advice like it should be, respectfully.

  • @muzzleblast88
    @muzzleblast88 8 месяцев назад +25

    Mr Ron has taken more game and shot more in his life than all us watching combined. People crack me up can't watch and enjoy great videos without acting like they are experts telling the real expert how to do something

    • @easttexan2933
      @easttexan2933 8 месяцев назад

      Hilarious.

    • @muzzleblast88
      @muzzleblast88 8 месяцев назад

      @@easttexan2933 sometimes the truth is funny .

    • @easttexan2933
      @easttexan2933 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@muzzleblast88 do the math. I personally have killed probably 60 deer in my 77 years. You still think Ron has taken more game than all of us combined? Hilarious.

  • @hillbillync655
    @hillbillync655 8 месяцев назад +25

    Gracious and humble attitude, such a rarity today. Thank you for being an example to us all.

  • @KugoVolarus
    @KugoVolarus 8 месяцев назад +12

    What a legend. Ron uses haters to teach us more about how to shoot. Ultimate play. Class act.

  • @davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009
    @davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 8 месяцев назад +12

    You're a very kind man Ron. It's like My old Football coach said to us players back in the day! "Stick with what works well, until it Doesn't work well. The people in the bleachers can never win the game for you."

  • @williamgoldston5803
    @williamgoldston5803 8 месяцев назад +16

    Ron you are a saint to listen to these self proclaimed snipers. It is doubtful that many of us are as proficient as hunters and none of us as good a RUclips host as you. It seems to be nature within different communities people become self proclaimed experts and feel the need to share their wisdom. Thanks for playing along.

    • @RonSpomerOutdoors
      @RonSpomerOutdoors  8 месяцев назад +10

      Thanks for the support, William. You are right. It's just human nature to want to criticize and correct as well as share their knowledge. And sometimes that shared knowledge can be put to good use!

  • @grumpygrumpgrump136
    @grumpygrumpgrump136 8 месяцев назад +1

    Mr. Spomer, you sir are the gentleman .I looked in the dictionary for the definition of the word gentleman, and there was a photo of Ron Spomer. God bless you Sir.

  • @derekbootle8316
    @derekbootle8316 8 месяцев назад +2

    Ron is one of the finest, most humble men on the planet. Im going to assume he knows more than I do, if not only from education but experience. Wisdom is better than knowledge.

  • @patrickrobare
    @patrickrobare 8 месяцев назад +5

    I love how you've probably taken more game professionally than most people have taken in their lives, and people still feel the need to tell you you're doing everything wrong. I especially love how knowing all this, you still are humble enough to adress the comments and try suggestions.

    • @gusloader123
      @gusloader123 8 месяцев назад +2

      Taking game animals standing or kneeling in the woods/plains/mountains/outdoors is one thing. Shooting from a bench with rests for the buttstock and fore-end in a different thing. Several of the suggestions which he read aloud were correct, especially the one about holding onto the fore-end instead of letting it hop around loosely. When he followed the advice about holding onto the fore-end, then his shots/groups were better.

  • @bobkat1663
    @bobkat1663 8 месяцев назад +2

    Ron, you do you sir. Great Show. I shoot as I hunt. When your arm is torqued in the rifle strap, it pulls the stock ( those cheaper non-wood stocks can really move around), in that direction which can make a difference in the impact zone, if the non-wood stock touches the barrel as a result of the torque, then the sin wave could be altered...etc. Yes, have something stable to bore sight it, but after that, you should be shooting the gun , in the positions and angles you will use in the field, as a hunter. Targets? then the bags and sled and all that busy business. I saw you stand and hit that 400 yard target on the hill there , back in one of your shows, all I needed to see, you can shoot just fine.

  • @bruceyoung6112
    @bruceyoung6112 8 месяцев назад +19

    What works for some may not work for another. My dad taught me and my brother how to shoot at an early age. Everyone that grew up with my dad said that he was the best shot they had seen with handgun rifle and shotgun. He was an Army veteran who qualified expert. He always stressed to be comfortable while shooting. So my two cents worth is do what's comfortable for you. Keep up the good work.

  • @vincethewoodlander
    @vincethewoodlander 8 месяцев назад

    The best natural technique you have is the way you openly and quietly listen and respond to people who may not deserve the grace. We all need to copy that technique first. Thanks

  • @doylethorn9251
    @doylethorn9251 8 месяцев назад +1

    For me, the bench is for the initial site in and load development. I always do a final site in from the field positions. Sometimes the POI is several inches different.

  • @jeramiewalker8947
    @jeramiewalker8947 6 месяцев назад

    I really have to give you props for trying different things. Always being open to new ideas, keeps us, the shooters always open to new ideas. Everyone's body is different. It's all about consistency. Ron shoots a certain way from a bench because he shoots a certain way while hunting.

  • @rpmorrisjr
    @rpmorrisjr 8 месяцев назад +2

    Left hand resting on top of the scope right at the turrets. Changes everything.

  • @billhendon1017
    @billhendon1017 8 месяцев назад +13

    I think you done a great job ! I’ve never shot an animal from a bench! A lot of bs to me ! Everyone is different!

  • @josephpeterson7109
    @josephpeterson7109 8 месяцев назад +3

    You are correct, bench shooting does not transfer to field shooting very well. Not only are the positions vastly different, but ones emotions can cause havoc with a pretty good stable shooting position. Load testing is needed but once a load is established, practice how you will shoot in the field. Growing up in Minnesota had me hunting grey squirrels, cottontails and snowshoe hares with a quality .22. If indeed practicing field shooting is what makes a better field shot, small game hunting is the ticket. Thank you Sir.

    • @RonSpomerOutdoors
      @RonSpomerOutdoors  8 месяцев назад +1

      Yes sir, Joseph. Bench shooting for a hunter is used to determine how accurate and trustworthy the rifle/ammo is. That gives you confidence so you can relax and concentrate on your field shooting technique. That, in turn, makes cross canyon shots like our 400-yard N. ID whitetail many years ago, right? Cheers.

  • @bearmeat898
    @bearmeat898 8 месяцев назад

    Ron, your willingness to take criticism is admirable, even if given by people who have successfully taken 1/50th of the animals you have.

  • @Bamdoggs
    @Bamdoggs 8 месяцев назад +7

    Ron, you are a far more patient man than most for entertaining these criticisms. I like many, have long considered you a subject matter expert on nearly all of what you do with rifle shooting. Shooting and more importantly accurate shooting is very personal technique driven. Carry on with your own ways sir! Bravo! 👏🏻

  • @coolifadventures608
    @coolifadventures608 8 месяцев назад

    Exceptionally classy way to handle construction criticism. Bravo.

  • @fruitfarmfords8243
    @fruitfarmfords8243 8 месяцев назад

    Id like to see all the trophy rooms of these guys knocking your style, vs. your trophy room Mr. Spomer.
    Id bet you have em all beat!

  • @davidheath2427
    @davidheath2427 8 месяцев назад +6

    There is always room to improve . And learning should never cease. Love your work Ron .

  • @DavMuscy
    @DavMuscy 8 месяцев назад +2

    Hey, love your videos.
    One thing I do, that might be crazy, when bench shooting is rest my support hand gently on the scope to keep the gun steady as I shoot. I have seen others do this and it seems natural to me when I do it.

  • @jasonsimone3523
    @jasonsimone3523 8 месяцев назад +1

    I always hold the forearm down to the bag on lighter weight rifles and heavy recoiling rifles. Always tightens up my groups to an half inch if the rifle is capable. And I've been shooting rifles for 42 years and even won three centerfire rifle competitions.

  • @davefromfresno
    @davefromfresno 8 месяцев назад +3

    I have enjoyed your videos for a while but have never commented before.
    I enjoyed your .308 series and did not notice too many problems with your shooting position or style of letting the gun free recoil when shooting from the bench.
    I have been shooting for a long time... competitively for much of that. I have had people say similar things... so I put them behind my gun so they can show me. Not one has done better.
    There are a lot of people out there ready to criticize... but my question has always been... show me what you mean.
    I haven't had anybody show me yet. Lol
    Thanks for your videos.

  • @donnymicalizzi8267
    @donnymicalizzi8267 8 месяцев назад

    I think Ron is going with recoil rather than fighting it therefore, it is not hurting him. He’s a smart man and he knows what he’s doing.

  • @bryanohalloran9001
    @bryanohalloran9001 8 месяцев назад

    Gotta love the Keyboard Warriors, Ron.
    I'm amazed with some experts, that are so shortsighted they cant see anything good in what you do

  • @McHenryKelsey
    @McHenryKelsey 8 месяцев назад +1

    It's impressive how you don't take the RUclips comments too personally, and you are actually willing to try out what they say. So many RUclipsrs get their panties in a knot and take it out on their whole audience (most of whom never comment).

  • @tonydevich7937
    @tonydevich7937 8 месяцев назад

    Ron do what you do , dont change it will mess you up!

  • @ajloll9127
    @ajloll9127 8 месяцев назад

    Ron I’ve leaned so much watching your videos. Your presentation is so interesting and entertaining to watch. Don’t change a thing.

  • @rosshill2565
    @rosshill2565 8 месяцев назад +1

    I am somewhat older (52) and I learned a few new things on holding the front end down a little with light rifle has helped seeing hits and some accuracy increases (MOA or a little better to 3/4-1/2 inch groups). Though once sighted in, I shoot targets or 8" steel plate in different hunting positions, and I live where you can go to the mountains to practice such shots at different angles and unlimited yards.

  • @keithwilliams9467
    @keithwilliams9467 8 месяцев назад +2

    I don't think I'll ever see another person so humble! Ron, I really appreciate your channel and all the information you share. Some people just can't handle others not doing things their way!

  • @kennyd2134
    @kennyd2134 8 месяцев назад

    Rons experience and knowledge speaks VOLUMES above and beyond these complaints/suggestions from these youtube experts. I bet they have comments about Jordan or Bird shooting basketballs wrong. IGNORE THESE TROLLS RON, your too polite, tell them all to go get bent!

  • @bobcole9274
    @bobcole9274 8 месяцев назад +1

    Would like to see video's from the critiques. You have helped me in my own shooting and my children and grandchildren. The one thing I would like to see added to your video occasionally
    is your off hand or shooting stick style as in hunting.
    And then you mentioned field technique. I will watch for it. Thanks.

  • @edwardabrams4972
    @edwardabrams4972 8 месяцев назад +1

    I once back in the 70’s had a customer who was the world champion shotgun shooter and I ask him was there any one thing besides practice a lot and owning good quality guns! He said don’t let anyone try and change your style of shooting! He tried it and was terrible trying to copy others style. He said his to biggest competitors had totally different styles but both were great shooters!

  • @mrcommonsense1529
    @mrcommonsense1529 8 месяцев назад +6

    Ron, your shooting is perfect, you are covering all the fundamentals, your groups are awesome, I appreciate all your knowledge and advise..keep up the videos and don’t listen to the RUclips trolls..

  • @user-fj7vm9fz2h
    @user-fj7vm9fz2h 8 месяцев назад

    Ron With a Ruger scout I one holed three rounds at 100 yds. And still adjusted my scope. It was an inch high and a 1/2 inch left. My trick was good ammunition and a great gunsmith. He reworked almost everything he learned for me to make that one excellent deer rifle. I had asked him to do everything he could to make sure if I missed it would always be me and never the rifle. He succeeded. Afterwards I pulled the bullet and measured what powder and exactly how much.

  • @joshfrey9336
    @joshfrey9336 8 месяцев назад

    Man its a good thing the arm chair expert army is always there to tell you what your doing wrong according to them! Lol good grief, keep doing what you've done longer than most these guys been alive Ron. Enjoy your videos

  • @drk1952
    @drk1952 8 месяцев назад

    Ron, You are a BIG BIG man in a world of internet experts. Keep up the great videos and keep doing what works for you. It's worked for you for 50 years?

  • @aaronwilcox6417
    @aaronwilcox6417 8 месяцев назад

    Hey Ron. I hang out a few miles north of you (St. Joe, Clearwater, Selway). That field positional practice has changed up my capabilities and opportunities as well. Some really brag about sub-moa (that gets thrown around a lot) groups and tight patterns off a bench or some form of rest. The reality is your right, shooting from an fixed bench at a flat range only confirms a zero, maybe a load consistentcy, and mechanical capabilities in the rifle. Take that into real world locations like high angle shooting across canyons and without shooting aids, without going prone with a bipod and without sandbags and lots of paraphernalia and those who insist about accuracy under an inch are most likely getting 3 ft patterns. The ultimate test an person can do is to actually go into the terrain like youd hunt in and practice. Taking an walk or hike and grab a real shooting sling and go apply fundamentals. Also its a great way to apply bolt manipulation and reloads too. Anyway i enjoyed the video and hope you do more about field shooting, sling technique, and how to's in real field locations.

  • @11kinghc
    @11kinghc 8 месяцев назад

    I’ve always figured I want to practice how I hunt and I hunt prone off a bipod so that’s how I sight rifles in and how I target shoot. I know vortex optics says the worst thing you can do to a scope is use a lead sled and tons of people do that to sight in. The main thing to me is consistency and comfort… if you always do the same thing and you’re comfortable you’re probably going to shoot better. I always enjoy your videos and the way you take criticism Ron!

  • @bcallahan3806
    @bcallahan3806 8 месяцев назад +1

    What's comfortable for you and it works good for you.
    Just a couple tips, bench shooting is nothing like hunting in the field.
    I use it to know if my rifle accurate using whatever ammunition I'm using.
    As far as "squaring up" goes
    Nothing personal but you like me could be off trained.
    Right handed, but left eye dominant.
    I shoot left hand rifles.
    Way better, less creep.
    Holding down especially when it comes to higher calibers or magnum loads is a must, unless you don't mind black eyes or horseshoe scars in your forehead 😂.
    "Free floating" is okay on lightweight calibers. You bump it up, whether it be to 3.5 inch magnum 12 gauge or 7mm mag or 300 win mag..
    Expect a face full of scope. Or worse.
    Recoil is a fact. In some people causes fear.
    Mostly because of mishandling of firearm.
    I'm not a big guy.
    But I can run 5 rounds rapid fire through a 3.5 inch magnum 12 gauge shotgun or a 300 win mag with no problem when people twice my size are showing me bruises two. Days later.
    Work smarter not harder.
    Love your channel
    We're all getting older, glad you teamed up to carry on what's more than a tradition.
    👍👍👍👍👍

  • @michaelmartino5100
    @michaelmartino5100 8 месяцев назад +1

    No doubt that there is no shortage of critics watching your videos. Your success in the field speaks for itself! Not all hunters are bench rest shooters, for sure.

  • @mimicocto8
    @mimicocto8 8 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you Ron for the video(s). You've got a better attitude towards your viewers comments than I would. Some people are just too harsh these days. Truly valid points on how to improve your shots though. I would say this, your accomplishments, as other accomplished hunters, still puts game on the ground. When you're a benchrest shooter, millimeters can "win the cup" and can make a difference in the field if properly applied. I've learned something here and see the benefits of checking how you shoot. So, are we comparing apples to apples here? To a degree, yes. Practice and muscle memory will only be the way anyone can truly successfully apply these technics. If you don't reload, that means more money spent on "boxed ammo". Not everyone is in just such a position to do that. Some hunt for food and do so without the benefit of a "decent" gun. I'm sure you've seen this in your travels abroad. Still think and agree, we can all apply some of these basics though to make that ethical shot on game. Not all of us are snipers, some of us just hunt snipe.
    You're humble attitude and years of knowledge is always a joy to see. I wish happy and healthy years for you and yours. Thank you again, regards from Mississippi.

  • @sgianach5940
    @sgianach5940 8 месяцев назад +1

    There are a few comments on here about harsh criticism. Whilst i love this channel the criticism was largely fair. On the .308 reviews the shooting technique was actually quite stressful to watch. I am in my fourth decade of shooting professionally for deer management and for light rifles holding the foreend generally works best for groups, keeping control over the rifle for follow through and faster target acquisition and for moving from one animal to another more quickly when culling multiples. Each to their own and good of Ron to give another technique a try.

  • @anthonygendron9737
    @anthonygendron9737 7 месяцев назад

    Ron, you really are a nice fella. I don’t think I would be open to criticism if I had your success hunting and years of experience.

  • @JEbert-ez2wb
    @JEbert-ez2wb 8 месяцев назад

    I am in the “hold the rifle as close as you can to how you would hold it in the field” camp when it comes to bench shooting. This means always having a hold of the forearm, and that’s how I shoot the best, but if anyone’s different technique works for them, or if they have different goals and different types of equipment, then that’s fine. I’m not going to criticize. This was an interesting video. I’ve tried similar tests with my rifles. My results always favor having a hold of the forearm with any rifle that kicks more than a .22 rimfire. Anyway, thanks for your efforts. Always good info and nicely presented.

  • @Hondayo77
    @Hondayo77 8 месяцев назад

    keep doing your thing ron and the rest of you key board warriors kick rocks

  • @keeferross8503
    @keeferross8503 8 месяцев назад

    Lots of critics out there. I learned to shoot in the exact fashion you have demonstrated, letting the rifle float and recoil, worked well for me. Thank you for the videos cheers.

  • @terrycalvert7812
    @terrycalvert7812 8 месяцев назад +1

    Left hand on the bell of the scope is much more comfortable and easier to manage when shooting from the bench!! But guess what you will always shoot the best when your comfortable so do what feels the most comfortable to you and the heck with what anyone else thinks!! I’m sure the pros could find some kinks in these guys want to point out how great they are and do it all the right way!! What is the right way?? Whatever way you feel is right for you that’s the right way!!

  • @lmbear
    @lmbear 8 месяцев назад +1

    You shoot just fine Ron. I appreciate your videos!

  • @kentuckywindage222
    @kentuckywindage222 8 месяцев назад +2

    Ron firstly you're a humble man who has taken a lot of game over the year's. Accuracy testing from a table top is great to find a load and see the accuracy potential for a particular weapon and that load. I think time spent practicing from real world hunting positions is more valuable after. Unless bench shooting is all you do. I too was taught to shoot with Ron's first example. Squaring up and holding a lighter rifle target shooting does improve things. With a heavy lower recoiling rifle I square but don't hold the front. Just load the bipod.

  • @one_pang
    @one_pang 8 месяцев назад +1

    Ron flexing with that Blaser R8 lol

  • @dw5523
    @dw5523 8 месяцев назад

    Definitely the best hunting content on RUclips, and quite possibly the best firearms content as well. No drama, no hissy fits, no preaching, just good times and cool heads. Hunt honest and shoot straight indeed.

  • @ethanhernandez86
    @ethanhernandez86 8 месяцев назад +1

    The animal won’t know the difference still gonna be dead with those first 3 shots 😂keep up the good work Ron!

  • @troy9477
    @troy9477 15 дней назад

    Great for being willing ro try new techniques and learn from them. It dies not oay to be dogmatic and close your mind to new information. I have taught various people to shoot handgun, and i used to help teach a ccw prep class. As long as your stance is balanced and safe, and you have reasonable control over the gun, it is fine. Since i am no longer on the street wearing body armor, i try to hse modified Weaver, but i often find myself reverting to isoceles. Old habits die hard. The Blaser has a fine reputation, but i doubt i will ever be able to afford one. Nice to see how they shoot

  • @leenevins8719
    @leenevins8719 8 месяцев назад +2

    I want to say thanks not only to Ron but also the whole community. The information from the videos and really are helpful. I grew up using shotguns. The info here is very helpful

  • @danielemerson5790
    @danielemerson5790 8 месяцев назад

    An excellent video! I built a 20" M16 A4 clone, AR15 with Palmetto State Armory parts. I'm limited to 100 yrds at my range. I use a 3 x 9 x 40 fairly cheap Nikon scope at 9x. I found with Hornady 68 gr match ammo, I can shoot 1 1/8 groups all day long, with three shots in the 3/4" bullseye at 3/8". I'm looking forward to trying some different methods to see if I can tighten up my groups! Once again, a 62 year old dog looking for new tricks lol...

  • @getoffmylawn8986
    @getoffmylawn8986 8 месяцев назад

    You don't need any advice, Ron. You're a long time established pro, which is why I watch you.

  • @simonetofani6357
    @simonetofani6357 4 месяца назад

    Very usefull thanks Ron

  • @muleybuckco
    @muleybuckco 8 месяцев назад +1

    Great job as always Ron thank you

  • @TMFShooting
    @TMFShooting 8 месяцев назад +1

    Great Video Ron 💯 Thank you 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

  • @heinrichstoltz1356
    @heinrichstoltz1356 8 месяцев назад

    Ron, I cannot belief how much airtime that you give all the keyboard warriors. 😂😂 You are just too nice and too kind. 😉

  • @drummer0864
    @drummer0864 8 месяцев назад

    Most excellent. We all learn from these.

  • @rubenrodriguez7266
    @rubenrodriguez7266 8 месяцев назад

    Kudos for taking the critiques and testing! Good stuff.

  • @robertmartin8184
    @robertmartin8184 8 месяцев назад

    Ron, Hats off to you. You're a gem. Keep up the good work. I enjoy your videos. It must be challenging. Thank you.

  • @rodneyhanbaum697
    @rodneyhanbaum697 8 месяцев назад +1

    Good stuff, Thank you Sir

  • @chiliboom6140
    @chiliboom6140 8 месяцев назад +1

    I appreciate that you are willing to try a new way. Even if you don’t end up using it. At least you can see how it Could be useful. Thank you for another great lesson!

  • @mr.mr.3301
    @mr.mr.3301 8 месяцев назад

    Amazed how humbled Ron is and to post these criticisms.

  • @americansafarico
    @americansafarico 8 месяцев назад

    Ron, you are a true gentleman and a good human. Absolutely my favorite hunting personality, you are a mentor to this late-onset hunter.

  • @murphymmc
    @murphymmc 8 месяцев назад

    I've witnessed many excellent shooters using the same techniques you use, others using techniques suited for semi-auto combat style in AR platforms, they tend to be different. I shoot pistol more than rifle, therefore it's more natural for me to apply the techniques of pistolcraft to rifle shooting, right or wrong, the goal is to have no movement in the final trigger press with sight alignment. I manage 1-1/4 and less with two different AR rifles at 200yd. One of those is consistently under an inch, the other opens up to still being sub MOA. I'm fully open to improving that grouping, other than my grip, I pretty much use the same technique as you. Sure, mine have bull barrels and bi-pods so they should group well. Keep doing what you do, Ron, you always offer good information.

  • @Scottbayer
    @Scottbayer 8 месяцев назад +1

    Great to see you trying different techniques. It must be extremely hard to have everybody nitpicking everything you do but to actually try and go above and beyond to please your viewers is fantastic. I love all the information you shared with us and just want to say thank you great work.

  • @Lae722
    @Lae722 8 месяцев назад +1

    love your kindness Ron. it's your channel, gun, bullets and money... shoot however you want. Those others probably never posted anything for you to bock at 😉 keep it up buddy!!

  • @davybarr5919
    @davybarr5919 8 месяцев назад

    Ron, I deeply appreciate how gracious you are in answering some of these questions that could easily be taken wrongly. You are a far more gracious man than most and it speaks well of your character. I have a sneaking suspicion that you know far more about this stuff than most of the armchair critics.

  • @stevewalker4638
    @stevewalker4638 8 месяцев назад

    Good questions.

  • @jonathanmitchell3733
    @jonathanmitchell3733 8 месяцев назад +1

    Great video. Very interesting

  • @eskimoreloader
    @eskimoreloader 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks Ron

  • @maxmccain8950
    @maxmccain8950 8 месяцев назад +1

    I took many, many game animals with a rifle that would only print 1 1/2 inches at 100 yards. In the old days that was a pretty good shooter if it would do that. By the way, I’ve always shot groups with the forend unsupported. Ask my friends if I can shoot good benchrest groups. Keep up the good work Ron.

  • @TTT-du6oj
    @TTT-du6oj 8 месяцев назад

    Ron clearly knows how to drive a rifle yet is not too set in his ways to try modifying his technique,he is a true gentleman👍

  • @terryrauh6647
    @terryrauh6647 8 месяцев назад

    Ron I think you are a awesome man. Not everyone can take all the ( expert ) criticism as well as you do. Thanks for all you do for us in the shooting world.

  • @michaelwilson9986
    @michaelwilson9986 8 месяцев назад

    Well done

  • @daveknowles3055
    @daveknowles3055 8 месяцев назад

    Another great show. Watched the varying technique parts twice. Like you I tend to be offset to the rifle and keep a pretty loose hold on the rifle. I'll be trying the tighter grip on the forend and see how that works for me. Not having grouping issues but always open to try something new.

  • @coolguns689
    @coolguns689 8 месяцев назад

    Ron, you do great with your own techniques. Not everyone has the same shooting experience.

  • @lylehutchins916
    @lylehutchins916 8 месяцев назад

    I like the 'hold down' technique.
    Gonna try it.

  • @coreyjohnson2998
    @coreyjohnson2998 8 месяцев назад +1

    REALLY appreciate this video. I too was a commentator on you “blade” technique. It seemed odd to me. Appreciate you taking the time to help educate
    Awesome!!

  • @rickschwertner282
    @rickschwertner282 8 месяцев назад

    This is a super cool podcast gentlemen. I have been in some form or fashion of the auto industry for 41 years and you guys sound like we did for more than 25 of those years when every spare moment was spent racing. From dirt circle track, drag racing, 4x4 tractor pulling and finally open road racing. We were the wild catters per say and certainly found the benefits and weaknesses of certain platforms. I tell these young guys who work for me all the time that those blank, blank engineers took what we broke and improved on the design to see if we could break it again. Keep at it, and so will we.

  • @richards.mchardy3556
    @richards.mchardy3556 8 месяцев назад +1

    Hey, I have a lot of respect for you, and I, as a shooter and hunter, I always listen to all kinds of ways to improve myself, so like my dad told a lot of times try it out...who knows...

  • @tsufordman
    @tsufordman 8 месяцев назад

    The technique I use is whatever is comfortable when I get behind the rifle that day.
    Bench, wind, rifle, and rest are never the same with my setup, so I change with it.

  • @denisleblanc4506
    @denisleblanc4506 8 месяцев назад +1

    Many years ago I was shooting from an MTM rifle rest with straps at the back and an ajustable height rubber pad out front. With that setup I found I could shoot better groups if I settled the crosshairs about an inch high and use my front hand to pull down on the forend to lower the crosshairs just right. Letting it jump freely opened up the groups. Another thing I noticed when shooting off hand is I would sometimes squeeze the forehand in a flinch and pull the muzzle down. The free recoil method certainly seems to work really well for F-Class competitors but they have custom rifles designed for this with very light triggers. Most hunting rifles aren't designed to recoil straight back. They almost always flip the muzzle up on firing. Trying to control it with your front hand will reduce flip somewhat and probably reduce vertical stringing as you noticed however it is difficult to do consistently specially with light rifles and powerful cartridges. So my own conclusion is it works very well for short strings on the bench but could be more difficult in long shooting strings. I still prefer a strong grip on the trigger hand because I don't have rifles with one pound triggers. Just for my own interest, I'd like to see you shoot a group at 100 yards off hand with your shooting sticks and a second group using a tight sling in the shooting sticks with your front hand resting in the sticks and see if there's a difference in the group size and shape.

  • @davidmackee8575
    @davidmackee8575 8 месяцев назад

    Good video Ron interesting how different holds effect the impact point of the bullet 👍👍

  • @larrygabbard4896
    @larrygabbard4896 8 месяцев назад

    Had a Remington 700 in 25-06 that you could cover a 5 shot group with a quarter. My granddaughter and son-in-law would do the same. Ron, you do you. Good video

  • @michaelholt7889
    @michaelholt7889 8 месяцев назад

    What I enjoy most about you and your channel is that it's your opinion and nothing more. You aren't presenting your findings as absolutes. You also entertain the criticism. Watching someone "try new things" in earnest is fun. That's a man! Willing to challenge your own bias. You are showing us what you can do with a given rifle. That's a consistent data point from a proven rifleman, and I appreciate it. I come here for your opinion and you give it to us free. If viewers want absolute data points, find someone using a vice. I doubt they'll find the same insight and personality.

  • @michaelwilson9986
    @michaelwilson9986 8 месяцев назад

    Thank You for that comment on Barnes n other Monolithics needing a clean barrel n dont like being fired of gliding metal or cup n core bullets..I have found the same n tell others that.. as it true.I believe alot of people poor accuracy with them is a result of that.More of your co writers need to remind the masses.

  • @philschaefer4651
    @philschaefer4651 8 месяцев назад

    Hats off to you for trying internet suggestions. I'd love to see a video of Erik Cortina teaching you how to improve your shooting, or even just discussing some of the suggestions you got.

  • @QuincyCrawford-im4rz
    @QuincyCrawford-im4rz 8 месяцев назад +1

    Great video Ron I really enjoy your channel. 🤠

  • @clausnepperchristiansen7394
    @clausnepperchristiansen7394 8 месяцев назад

    Awesome video Ron.
    I shoot much like you do, but with the firm shooting hand grip.
    I will definitely try to hold the forend on my next range day.

  • @mmwracing975
    @mmwracing975 8 месяцев назад

    Can’t believe someone said that a 1 1/4” group isn’t good enough for hunting! That is pure insanity. Mr Spomer you are one of my favorite RUclipsrs, before I make any decisions or purchases regarding hunting or rifles I always am sure to come to your page and see what your thoughts are, and I have to say that it is amazing the amount of knowledge you have. I have never had a question that your channel hasn’t been able to answer! Thank you for giving us access to your many years of experience and wisdom sir!

  • @regsparkes6507
    @regsparkes6507 8 месяцев назад +4

    I target shoot Ron, and hold my rifle on rests similar to those you are using there, and in nearly same manner / style as you do.
    I was surprised ( as you appeared to be ) when you held the forestock tightly into the rest and you got that tight grouping as a result, I am certainly going to try to change my shooting technique
    the next time I get to the range, and see what it does for me.
    Thanks for this episode of RSO. ( and to the person who suggested you hold your rifle that way. :)

    • @davefromfresno
      @davefromfresno 8 месяцев назад +2

      I think it has a lot to do with the weight of the rifle. A bench shooting rifle is heavy and will stay down much more than a lighter rifle set up for hunting. So many factors that we have to think of.