It's insane how much passion and creativity was put into Legion From artifacts weapons, class halls, class-specific quests to even raid bosses mechanics
I liked the bridge boss in nighthold Only because the bossroom itself was the enrage timer where the boss would just slowly break more and more of the bridge.
On Kil'Jaeden mythic the singularities also spawn in the dark phase, causing wipes in transmog groups to this day as people continue to refuse to learn the pattern.
I think Argus is also a realy interesting raid boss. Where at one point, we will be killed and revived over and over again. Probably that's not super unique, but still it was a reaaaly enjoyable fight for me =)
Technically his mortal eyes were burned out by Sargaras and replaced with his own. He effectively has the eyes of a titan…. But yeah it is a nice bit of irony. Lol
@@DavidPachón8591 You should read the war of the ancients trilogy which is cannon, it outright states that Sargeras granted Illidan his own sight so that it might aid the Legion and Illidan himself. Most of the lore also alludes to the fact that Illidans vision is extra ordinary.
@@BigHeadClan I know what that means but we simply don't know what the eyes of a titan are capable of, as i said saying "the eyes of a titan" like if that means something is bullshit, so yeah, improved eyes after all...
@@DavidPachón8591 ???? The lore in the books and games actually go into a fair bit of detail with what the vision is capable of. He can see the essence of magic itself, how it flows and interacts with the world and castings. Be it arcane, druidic or demonic, it also allows him to see the energy inherit in all things living, inanimate or spectral. The ability to see in perfect darkness, through spells and illusions and a near perfect field of view. Hell Illidan used it to see across the universe granted it required a bunch of rituals so he knew what and where to look for but there really isn't a limit to what the eye's can observe under the right circumstances. Improved eye's make it sound like he just has 20/10 vision or some shit. lol
I loved the elisande fight. i always love bosses with really cool phrases even more. "time skips again.... and your doom draws near!". i actually modeled a DND boss after her time shift ability. it was wild!
I loved how all the time bubbles was used for COMPLETELY DIFFERENT reasons depending on the phase and difficulty. Easily one of the most creative fights in the game!
I find it very weird that Cenarius made the list with his brambles, while Argus didn't even made it to the list. I mean, the whole raid dying midfight and having resurrections at the tree is one thing. Being able to actively aid the raid even while you were dead was on a whole other level. It's probably the only raidfight out there where you'll always have something to do, even when dead.
I don't remember helping while dead, but also the adds that took more damage from specific types, so you'd have to find your type and kill that first. One of the best fights ever imo.
@@bart10050 Once the whole raid gets killed you get teleported to a 'death realm' of the arena where the portal was to resurrect and orbs were flying around that you could grab and they'd buff the people who are still alive. After a certain amount of resurrections the portal would disappear, but dead people could still collect the orbs and buff their team. If I'm not mistaken it was even a legitimate tactic to have a few members NOT resurrect but stay in the realm and just collect orbs. It was an interesting mechanic and I really liked it.
i loved the argus fight as the whole complete different phases from the pizza phase add phase and finally the death rush phase where you were ment to die over and over. it really made it feel like your fighting a titan
Coven of Shivarra was also an interesting fight, a painful, awful, interesting fight 🤣 But boy do I miss Legion raids, even KJ which had me in a chokehold for so long. Lets not forget Eonar!
Was Coven the first boss fight to ever use the "line of adds sweep across room" mechanic? I know its been reused since (most notable on Painsmith in SoD), but to my recollection that was the first time we ever saw it
We need more abilites like the Nightmare Brambles. Just something nobody can track, that no addon can help you with, which shouldn't be too harsh to deal with but which has players keep their eyes open for the danger.
This video really drives home one point for me: Antorus is the most underappreciated raid of all time. This video is comparing the end boss or 2nd-to-last boss from 3 previous raids to mid-raid bosses (not even "wing end" bosses) from Antorus. Its crazy to me that Antorus is full of unique and well-executed fights, but is discussed significantly less than ToS or NH. I'll admit that maybe Mythic Argus isn't as interesting as Mythic Guldan or as hard as Mythic KJ. However, if you look at the raid as a whole and at every difficulty I think Antorus might be the best raid ever created for the majority of the playerbase. LFR, Normal, and Heroic were exceptional and absolutely some of the best designed fights we have ever seen. Heroic Coven of Shivarra is probably one of the most mechanically unique and challenging bosses at the time (but is still well-regarded by the player base despite its challenges).
When you edit your breaths, you make the video sound like it is on 2x speed. It is a bit hard to focus on what you are saying. ( i am one of the guys falling asleep on your videos, and at this speed is hard to fall asleep) lol
Not a mechanic but I enjoyed the strategy on tichondrius mythic mode where you suicide the guy with the debuff. I remember taking the cr totem on my heal shaman back then.
the knockup from archimonde was kinda fun because all the noobs died from falldmg 🤣🤣 I mean I played as a tree back in the day so I didn't even have to use the tear. I just switched to cat form and hotted me afterwards 🤷🏿♂🤷🏿♂😁😁 and it only took us like 70 tries to kill him. it's my favourite boss. Killing him was soo rewarding. I also got my first T6 piece
i know this is about Legion expansion, but for some reason when I read "interesting raid mechanics" on your title the first thing that popped into my head is Shadowland's "among us" boss. like I said, first thing popped into my head.
I definitely agree. It would be even better if Blizzard went back to Legion with Classic on the 7.3 patch with all of the quality of life improvements.
Kin'garoth was a cool fight, but I don't know that any of the mechanics were new or unique. Just a unique mix of abilities that had already existed in the game. But still a great boss fight.
Bro im playing assassins creed valhalla and they just copied the fight agains blackhand where the ground allways breaks down, or was this also copied from another game aswell?😂 also they just redid the dying arthas dialogue at one point but i cant tell rn where exactly
"It's raid content is still highly regarded as some of the best in the game" Uhh, no? lmao. You of all people should know this Hiru. Most of your videos are ABOUT wow history. When legion was current, it was regarded as one of the worst xpacks the game had ever seen, even being worse than WoD. And the raiding community hated the raids in legion, with ToS being seen as one of the WORST raid tiers in the game's entire HISTORY when it was current content. People HATED legion raiding. This isn't even bringing up stuff like having to reroll the same class because your 4 legos you got were not any good, so you lvled a new alt, of the same class, just to try and get 4 good ones in order to actually competitively raid. Or the whole garbage AP system, being forced to play one single spec because you had to put all your AP into 'a' weapon, so you couldn't just swap to a tank or healer spec mid raid if you needed to, because you had to have your one, main spec be as powerful as possible. Where in the hell did you even get the claim that LEGION of all xpacks had GOOD raiding? It certainly was not from posts from when it was current content, I know that much.
Interesting, I guess. For me these contribute to the cluster f*ck problem in the game where you cant see anything but epileptic inducing colors and blizz should never ever make another fight like the shitshow that was KJ fight
It's insane how much passion and creativity was put into Legion
From artifacts weapons, class halls, class-specific quests to even raid bosses mechanics
for finding illidan you could also use demon hunter, spectral sight shows where he is.
I liked the bridge boss in nighthold
Only because the bossroom itself was the enrage timer where the boss would just slowly break more and more of the bridge.
Or how no one remembered to move from the cracks in the bridge 🤣
Casting misery on WoW players sounds redundant.
Hahahahaha, that was really good
I see what you did there
"OH the misery"
It stacks
Same with alone in the dark tbh
On Kil'Jaeden mythic the singularities also spawn in the dark phase, causing wipes in transmog groups to this day as people continue to refuse to learn the pattern.
Some people don't even know how to solo mythic Kil'Jaeden.
I think Argus is also a realy interesting raid boss.
Where at one point, we will be killed and revived over and over again.
Probably that's not super unique, but still it was a reaaaly enjoyable fight for me =)
Argus was awesome, one of my favorite WoW bosses of all time
Having someone stay dead for almost 70% of the fight in order to keep that tree alive was a really cool mechanic
I really did enjoy the Argus fight, I think it really was the favorite of mine in that raid.
for me its worth mentioning that in the kil'jaeden fight, illidan, who is blind, is responsible for granting you sight in order to do the mechanic
Technically his mortal eyes were burned out by Sargaras and replaced with his own. He effectively has the eyes of a titan….
But yeah it is a nice bit of irony. Lol
@@BigHeadClan "the eyes of a titan" is pure bs but yeah he received his improved eyes from Sargeras itself
@@DavidPachón8591 You should read the war of the ancients trilogy which is cannon, it outright states that Sargeras granted Illidan his own sight so that it might aid the Legion and Illidan himself.
Most of the lore also alludes to the fact that Illidans vision is extra ordinary.
@@BigHeadClan I know what that means but we simply don't know what the eyes of a titan are capable of, as i said saying "the eyes of a titan" like if that means something is bullshit, so yeah, improved eyes after all...
@@DavidPachón8591 ???? The lore in the books and games actually go into a fair bit of detail with what the vision is capable of.
He can see the essence of magic itself, how it flows and interacts with the world and castings. Be it arcane, druidic or demonic, it also allows him to see the energy inherit in all things living, inanimate or spectral.
The ability to see in perfect darkness, through spells and illusions and a near perfect field of view. Hell Illidan used it to see across the universe granted it required a bunch of rituals so he knew what and where to look for but there really isn't a limit to what the eye's can observe under the right circumstances.
Improved eye's make it sound like he just has 20/10 vision or some shit. lol
I loved the elisande fight. i always love bosses with really cool phrases even more. "time skips again.... and your doom draws near!". i actually modeled a DND boss after her time shift ability. it was wild!
I loved how all the time bubbles was used for COMPLETELY DIFFERENT reasons depending on the phase and difficulty. Easily one of the most creative fights in the game!
I find it very weird that Cenarius made the list with his brambles, while Argus didn't even made it to the list. I mean, the whole raid dying midfight and having resurrections at the tree is one thing. Being able to actively aid the raid even while you were dead was on a whole other level. It's probably the only raidfight out there where you'll always have something to do, even when dead.
I don't remember helping while dead, but also the adds that took more damage from specific types, so you'd have to find your type and kill that first. One of the best fights ever imo.
@@bart10050 Once the whole raid gets killed you get teleported to a 'death realm' of the arena where the portal was to resurrect and orbs were flying around that you could grab and they'd buff the people who are still alive. After a certain amount of resurrections the portal would disappear, but dead people could still collect the orbs and buff their team. If I'm not mistaken it was even a legitimate tactic to have a few members NOT resurrect but stay in the realm and just collect orbs.
It was an interesting mechanic and I really liked it.
@@WaterbuffelNL Lol I have done the raid many times but never seen that hahaha. Sounds so cool, thanks for explaining :)
i loved the argus fight as the whole complete different phases from the pizza phase add phase and finally the death rush phase where you were ment to die over and over. it really made it feel like your fighting a titan
"And at number one we have Withered Jim"
the Moon Priestesses in ToS was also a fun fight, especially if you're a SPriest and listened to Xal'atath lol.
A Legion video in 2023? This takes me back man.
Varimathras and his Alone in the Dark is amazing, unless you play tank where you and your tank buddy are fighting to stay awake.
As a tank I can say I 100% agree
I remember tanking him. My worst fear was to fall asleep and do not taunt when the other tank's got debuff
Are you talking about not falling asleep in-game or IRL?
@@robertlupa8273Yes
@@robertlupa8273 irl :) From tank perspective It was extremely boring fight (at least on hc)
Best expansion
Wrong
Facts
Content wise, Legion was the best expansion. It just had a pretty mediocre opening patch with 7.0 and the early AP grind was brutal.
I miss Legion :( Antorus was soooo good
Coven of Shivarra was also an interesting fight, a painful, awful, interesting fight 🤣 But boy do I miss Legion raids, even KJ which had me in a chokehold for so long. Lets not forget Eonar!
Was Coven the first boss fight to ever use the "line of adds sweep across room" mechanic? I know its been reused since (most notable on Painsmith in SoD), but to my recollection that was the first time we ever saw it
I personally loved the desolate host from ToS, such a cool idea and really hard on top
Series idea: Most interesting Raid Trash mobs. Or another take on that could be - Most interesting trash that "trained you for the boss."
Legion was a great expansion, and I enjoyed all the raid tiers. I loved and hated the legendary system at the same time though.
The Xavius Corruption mechanic is incredibly similar to Cho'galls corrupted blood.
We need more abilites like the Nightmare Brambles.
Just something nobody can track, that no addon can help you with, which shouldn't be too harsh to deal with but which has players keep their eyes open for the danger.
This video really drives home one point for me: Antorus is the most underappreciated raid of all time. This video is comparing the end boss or 2nd-to-last boss from 3 previous raids to mid-raid bosses (not even "wing end" bosses) from Antorus. Its crazy to me that Antorus is full of unique and well-executed fights, but is discussed significantly less than ToS or NH.
I'll admit that maybe Mythic Argus isn't as interesting as Mythic Guldan or as hard as Mythic KJ. However, if you look at the raid as a whole and at every difficulty I think Antorus might be the best raid ever created for the majority of the playerbase. LFR, Normal, and Heroic were exceptional and absolutely some of the best designed fights we have ever seen. Heroic Coven of Shivarra is probably one of the most mechanically unique and challenging bosses at the time (but is still well-regarded by the player base despite its challenges).
Although not a raid Murazond encounter was the first time based mechanic that we saw. Way before elisande.
Oh the high command fight, such warm memories from mythic dif
Okay yeah I agree with #1 XD That fight was always lovely to do
On Kil'Jaedan intermission phase, Demon hunters could also use Spectral Sight to see illidan
When you edit your breaths, you make the video sound like it is on 2x speed. It is a bit hard to focus on what you are saying. ( i am one of the guys falling asleep on your videos, and at this speed is hard to fall asleep) lol
Excellent video!
Yes! New inspiration for dnd boss mechanics
I can already hear your evil laughter.
Legion was the best ever
Varimathras only revolving around misery and alone in the dark hit a little close to home :(
i really liked the moon floor boss in ToS
Not a mechanic but I enjoyed the strategy on tichondrius mythic mode where you suicide the guy with the debuff. I remember taking the cr totem on my heal shaman back then.
I think maiden having the hole you jump down into to have your bomb get absorbed and then blow you back out is the most unique mechanic
Definitely wish I could've raided in Legion.
As someone who already struggles to focus on one thing due to ADHD, Legion raid bosses were a nightmare
the knockup from archimonde was kinda fun because all the noobs died from falldmg 🤣🤣
I mean I played as a tree back in the day so I didn't even have to use the tear. I just switched to cat form and hotted me afterwards 🤷🏿♂🤷🏿♂😁😁
and it only took us like 70 tries to kill him. it's my favourite boss. Killing him was soo rewarding. I also got my first T6 piece
An idea for a video could be top Class/Race combos? As in lore, marketing and meta?
i know this is about Legion expansion, but for some reason when I read "interesting raid mechanics" on your title the first thing that popped into my head is Shadowland's "among us" boss. like I said, first thing popped into my head.
Best expansion thus far.
I definitely agree. It would be even better if Blizzard went back to Legion with Classic on the 7.3 patch with all of the quality of life improvements.
I liked making pizza out of slices Argus made with scythe, Aggramar taunt-friesta was also intresting
I miss tomb of soakgeras.
Legion raids were the goat.
And I was pretty sure Eonar would be #1... I'm disappointed that Eonar fight not on the list at all! :(
I thought for sure Eonar the balloons tower defense boss would be on there.
Memories~~~
Legion raiding is the goat
dream state with pre nerfed surrender to maddness was so busted.i would top meters every time
No. 8: Soak.
Nighthold is my favorite raid in all of legion
Love the cake boss
Nice video Idea
I feel like I need a PhD to understand WoW raids after like 2010
it hurts me.. kin garoth is not there..
Kin'garoth was a cool fight, but I don't know that any of the mechanics were new or unique. Just a unique mix of abilities that had already existed in the game. But still a great boss fight.
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Please make a video every day :l
No Star Augur ...
12:32 I mean...they did that for Dawn of the Infinite too, 2nd boss, areas of fast and slow time to do the mechanics
Bruh, did you leave this comment before he literally mentioned that 20 seconds later? That's silly
@@VividVoid I mentioned that second for a reason, he talked about time mechanics, not exactly the field that slows/speeds up things inside
2:23 Split used the wrong "border", unwatchable.
the video is 13:37 long
Bro im playing assassins creed valhalla and they just copied the fight agains blackhand where the ground allways breaks down, or was this also copied from another game aswell?😂 also they just redid the dying arthas dialogue at one point but i cant tell rn where exactly
"It's raid content is still highly regarded as some of the best in the game" Uhh, no? lmao. You of all people should know this Hiru. Most of your videos are ABOUT wow history. When legion was current, it was regarded as one of the worst xpacks the game had ever seen, even being worse than WoD. And the raiding community hated the raids in legion, with ToS being seen as one of the WORST raid tiers in the game's entire HISTORY when it was current content. People HATED legion raiding. This isn't even bringing up stuff like having to reroll the same class because your 4 legos you got were not any good, so you lvled a new alt, of the same class, just to try and get 4 good ones in order to actually competitively raid. Or the whole garbage AP system, being forced to play one single spec because you had to put all your AP into 'a' weapon, so you couldn't just swap to a tank or healer spec mid raid if you needed to, because you had to have your one, main spec be as powerful as possible. Where in the hell did you even get the claim that LEGION of all xpacks had GOOD raiding? It certainly was not from posts from when it was current content, I know that much.
Interesting, I guess. For me these contribute to the cluster f*ck problem in the game where you cant see anything but epileptic inducing colors and blizz should never ever make another fight like the shitshow that was KJ fight
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Top 10 Worst Raid Mechanics
Number 7 is already a negative imo
Completely random mechanics with no indicator ? Bad
There is an indicator. Your own eyes. It forces players to stay alert rather than rely on WeakAuras to tell them what to do.
@@TheNeiven Using your eyes and paying attention is hard for people as it turns out.
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I am surprised that Eonars Life Tree in the Argus Encounter is not on the list!