I used to take my little Honda CB125F (10.8 bhp) on dual carriageways. She managed 60 for the most part, though that brought the buzz out of the engine. 50 was definitely preferable for that reason alone. On a couple of downhills I managed to get more speed. Turns out the rev limiter cuts off fuel at 70mph :P
my 2021 cb125f wont go past 63mpg downhill wind behind lol, but yeah, 50 is comfy, and i'm in no rush anyway, i enjoy tootling in the twisty lanes when you usually cant do more than 40 (safely) anyway. GL
@@233kosta aye, it's easy to do, and i too have to always conciously make an effort to slow right down especially on steep hills with sharp bends, as while the brakes are 'adequate', combined with the gradient, gravel, thinner tyres and lack of talent it can be a deadly combination !! GL
@@Bob-ts2tu I mostly did it to avoid the lengthy process of getting back up to speed. Ironically I'm technically a lot safer in this regard now that I ride a 650 :P In fact the process of speeding back up is really rather enjoyable now. But yeh, those skinny tyres do little to help the matter.
@@Catweasle3982 I believe you, i actually opened mine up downhill last week, wind behind and tucked my ample un-aerodynamic frame in the best i could and it showed 66mph lol, so someone lighter, skinner & more flexible wouldnt have a problem getting to 70 io think, however the question is do you really want to?, and also to sustain that speed for long, i think not lol, im happy enough at 50-55 which it'll do all day. GL
I did feel my front wheel lift off on numerous occasions while I rode a 125, but that was with a 25kg tail bag strapped on and only pulling away from traffic lights. I used to do pretty decent stoppies though ;)
@@JustinLT212 Nope, on purpose. As long as you're smooth you're fine. Progressively add brake effort until the forks go all the way down, then a bit more to lift the back wheel A BIT. If you feel like it's going too high up you can always ease off, just don't dump it. It takes a little while to develop the finesse, but once you're smooth enough this stuff gets real easy to control. Being dead smooth affords you the time to feel exactly what's going on and even think about what to do next, but you've got to edge your way to the limits, can't just jump in. That then also teaches you how the bike responds near said limits and how to correct if you overstep. Smooth, progressive inputs are your best friend. Sharp, abrupt inputs are your worst enemy. "Slow is smooth and smooth is fast" applies here just as much as it does to martial arts.
My wee daughter has just bought one of these and just turned 19 and I know naff all about bikes. It is a 2021 with 0358 on the clock yes 358. After I watched your video I have taken your advice and fitted an Oxford anchor in my driveway for her with alarmed disc lock and ring doorbell. So the security is sorted and thanks very much for the theft advice. I was terrified of her riding it when I saw how mean it looked sitting on it in the showroom picture. But.....After watching you handle this little bike with professional ease and seeing how small and light it is in the video and its lack of power, you have made me feel more relaxed now about riding it. I do watch the TT and the Irish skerries and I follow Michael Dunlop and know the history of his family, but that is the extent of my bike knowledge. I was terrified the bike was going to be like Clark Kent on the driveway and superman on the road, my wife watched your video too and feels more relaxed now. TYVM for a superb video and all the best to you and your wife.
Yeh, lots of bikes look like absolute speed machines, but as a general rule, if you see an L-plate and no instructor it's bound to be slower than your car. The A1 limit is 15bhp, which... ain't much. How did she do on her CBT, by the way?
Yeah, it's insane. I test rode a Triumph Tiger sport 660 recently and no way would that be suitable for a beginner. I mean, I'm sure a beginner could probably figure it out but it's definitely jumping in the deep end. I reckon if I was given an opportunity to ride one of those in my first week of riding, I probably would've instantly launched myself into a wall 😅.
I’m a month into my 125 riding experience, loving every second, Iv got a 55 mile commute, luckily 50mph is the fastest I need to go, looks like you live near me, see you on the road, il be the one with L plates and a hi viz helmet,
I used to love tuning the old 2 strokes. Imo that's worth it. Plenty you can do to squeeze a bit more out of them although your reliability goes as fast as your rev counter and your hearing 😄
the reason why I stopped at 1.30 when he said no mod for performance (laughter) just shows his ignorance. 125 2t restricted 14hp, derestricted and tuned 21hp
@@mrburn6119that's cool, but there hasn't been a road legal 2 stroke 125cc motorbike in the UK since 2008. so for the massive majority of people that will be using a 4 stroke, it is sound advice.
@@friendlysnoworb6091 ktm exc 125 production years? It does not really matter when they were produced, plenty of old skool 2 strokes registered on the road. And yes while you may be correct that the vast majority have 4 strokes, a group of several thousand (2strokes) is to be ignored? which some might see as ignorance on the subject.
i was going up a 1:3 hill in 2nd, and had to really slow almost to a stop for a bend with broken surface. as the bike started chugging i dropped it into first and scared myself shitless when i pulled an unexpected wheelie lol, but no damage done and a lesson learned. GL
Totally agree with your comments. Just got my A license and traded in the 125 duke for a 790. If anything the 125 was better around town but for the open road there's no comparison. Any headwind or gradient and the 125 really struggled to keep up.
What did it for me is duel carriageways with a strong headwind I could hardly hold 45mph. Most other time it was OK for 60mph. Hills were also a pain In the ass. Sometimes it wouldn't even pull 3rd. Just had to red line in 2nd all the way up.
@@chrishart8548wtf kind of 125 did u have. Iv never seen or ridden a 125 4 storke that struggles to hit 60 mph. I coud to 60+ mph on the freeway with my instructor on the back ( he weights around 80kg) and with the wind against me. So idk why kind of bike u have
I get my 2024 Duke 125 this Friday. I plan on staying well away from boring dual carriage ways. I'll be going in the peak district, countryside, cornerly heaven 🙌🏼
Wheelies are possible just very difficult 😂 have to go to many different lengths to bring the front wheel up - a lot easier to wheelie a 125 moped only due to the weight difference
You just have to be brave with your clutch dumping and suspension loading. Not really something I'd think most CBT level riders would be safe to attempt, even on a closed private course, but it certainly helps to have a lower final drive ratio and a more upright style to take advantage of weight distribution.
@@S7AINLESS 100% for sure took me a good few months to get consistent on my duke 125 takes a lot of work haha really compressing the forks down and u gotta be quite brave to shift ur weight way over the back took a lot of little 1 foot wheel pops before i really got the hang of it 😂😂 way i see it if u can wheelie a 125 u can wheelie anything for sure
I've taken my 125cc yamaha yzf-r from Reading to Oxford. It's doable, not pleasant. You can (somewhat) comfortable sit at 70+ (and by plus I mean 75 top speed on flat ground) all the way on dual carriageways. I bought mine with an aftermarket exhaust on, and it sounds like a pop pop boat. That being said, I would not want to take it any further than maybe a 300km roundtrip
Biking for the last 40 years i often wonder about the purpose of a 125cc and 250cc more than learning to ride a bike when they are sloooow beyond inagination. I once started on a 12 hp Honda CB125 K5 and i couldnt overtake anything normal on the road with that bike. These days i try to stay behind them on my Hayabusa from time to time just to make them feeling happy. They are often new bikers and need some uplifting feeling while reaching their redmark rpm while still going sloooow. 👍
the reason is that here in Europe 16 year olds are only allowed to drive up to 125cc's. When you are 18 you can drive 300cc's and when you are 21 you can drive anything. So yeah as a 16 year old that lives in Italy and is getting his A1 (the license to drive 125cc's) driving license I'm extremely excited to the fact that I will be able to drive a 125 very soon. It surely is better than the 50cc scooter (which you can drive at 14yo) that I have now anyways.
In Asia like Thailand and many other south east Asian countries, they have a very rich culture on modifying small 125-150cc motorcycles. They managed to tune and take it up to a much higher topspeed than stocks, some of them notably can push a madly tuned 150cc to run up to 210+km/hr ( over 130mph ) while the stock can only run at 120-140km/hr ( 74-80mph ). Some of them also add in turbo or do a big bore kits and new gearing with additional turbo which makes it even more more powerful. You’d be surprised of how much they can juice out of that tiny engine. The cost is about an additional 2 150cc motorcycle worth. So the usual price of a 150cc new around 2.2k usd and with 4-5k usd high performance mods and tunes. Some would say why not just use that money and buy a 2nd hand bigger bike instead but they don’t, it’s just what they like to do, is make small thing powerful.
it's utterly baffling why we were relegated to 50cc and 125cc as learners. I'm a big boy and heavy set with the added weight of being a bit over weight and 125 are barely tolerable. I actively have to take routs that cut more steeper hills out of my journey. the learner legal limit should have been 250 restricted to 80 to 90mph at like 20 to 25bhp. Yes, there are idiots out there but for the most part, 125's are just not fit for purpose when we're talking non urban travel and most riders, no matter disposition, tend to be pretty road savvy. I also think it plant seeds of fear of the bigger bikes in some way too. and fear leads to hesitation and on motorcycles, that can be a detriment more times than it isn't.
Totally agree. I've mentioned in previous videos 125s are too small, and the jump between a 125 and a 300 - 400 for A2 motorcycle is huge! Should be 250 imo
It was that way back in the seventies,at 17 you could ride a 250 on on L plates with a provisional licence,some of the bikes were 28 HP,and with some allspeeds and k&n filters,most could do 100 mph.probably the best one i had was the suzuki GT250 X7,A road rocket.and considering you did not have to pass any test,only writing in for a provisional license,and off you go!It was very unfair when the uk reduced learner bikes with max 12 hp because that applied to everybody.no grandfather rights.the only compensation we got was if we were to take a motorcycle test now,we only have to take 1 test,for unlimited cc.
if you are talking about the UK!? flashback to the 70s and 80s the 50cc you could ride at aged 16 with a provisional license and L plates. thats a moped with pedals that flip over like foot pegs,but not restricted to 30mph so our fs1e ap50s did 50 mph easy some a bit more even 60mph.But aged 17 and with that same provisional license was learner legal with l plates 250cc of course most two strokes and a few(slower) were 4 strokes yamaha rds suzuki gts right around 28 hp probably the fastest of the 250s we were still allowed was the GT250X7, i had 105 mph out of mine.It was normal in the uk a thing called grandfather rights if you had a license for something and was already legal to drive that,then even if they changed the law they could not take it away from the older people.grandfather rights.But they did just that when they made mopeds max speed 30mph with fixed foot pegs and the new learner legal 125cc with max power restricted to 12hp.So yes back in my day we had fast 250s and with a few mods like expansion pipes k&N filters a little more power most of our bikes could do 100 mph.
I remember when I was in my early 20`s I had a Yamaha Rd125lc and had problems keeping the front wheel down. My friend who had a DTR125 was always pulling wheelies. What happened to the 125 2 stroke wheelie machines of yesteryear?
@@insertnamehere3007 I know what you mean about hitting differently. My last 2 stroke was the Suzuki GT380 triple (the one with the square bore) it was supposed to have only 38bhp but seemed to have way more than that. That little rocket ship never liked the centre spark plug, it was always spitting it out. that was also stolen from outside the Redbeck motel/diner at Wakefield. :/
I just finished restoring a 1982 example a week ago, it's a surprisingly fun little beast considering it makes all of 21 bhp or something. You do pretty much have to ride it like an absolute hooligan (like 7-10k rpm at all times) to get any power out, it's good to be back on a 2-stroke :D
At 47, all I'm going to do to my 125cc (when I work out which one I'm getting lol) is crash protection. Maybe a screen, too. I don't see the point for myself as I intend to have the bike less than a year before I move on. For people who plan on keeping their 125cc for a few years, though, maybe... Also, have you seen the 2023 Yamaha YZF-R125? £5.5k, and comes with traction control, colour tft screen, and is pre-wired to accept Yamaha's quickshifter system. Looks like a baby R7, unsure if I'd be willing to pay that much, but if you've got the money, and really like it...
@Insert Name Here I can see what Yamaha is trying to do with bike branding. But, I agree. £5.5k is too much for a 125cc. It's a lot of money if you're a younger person to find. And if you're older and going for your DAC, like I am, you might only have it for 6 months. Which kind of makes it a bit pointless. For £5.5k I can get all sorts of bigger bikes...
Johns right completely different things Simon your over thinking is dangerous learn from a professional don’t be bitter your thinking smart but not clever
@@Sidowse Hi Simon, it's kind of obvious from what you're saying you don't really know much about motorcycles. But that's alright, you can learn. There are plenty of youtubers out there with training videos such as Motorcycle Lessons UK and Motojitsu. As well as a plethora of books. I'd recommend Motorcycle Roadcraft, I know many colleges swear by it.
Hey Simon to be honest i couldn’t tell you sorry if I’ve angered you in anyway I just think you shouldn’t compare bike to moterbike ,the braking is completely different you would be using the engine to slow down also , I don’t own a motercycle so couldn’t give u actual advice
Looks like a fun bike. I rode 250Rs from Kawasaki that were a ton of fun and could easily handle most freeway situations, with the exception of passing while going up hills, which they weren't good at as their main weakness. But everything else, they were good at. They could do a wheelie from a stop, pulling in the clutch, revving to 7500+ RPMs and then completely letting the clutch go instantly, which was not fun at all and highly not recommended due to the sudden jolt from 0 to fast and the bike's front end going far up. I wonder if the 125cc could do that, but not really worth trying IMO. I avoid wheelies on my '21 Ninja 650 too.
I used to take my 125 on the motorway. It shaved 5 miles off my journey. It was ok tbh. Only did 60 on one stretch but lorries can only do 56 so i was fine in the inside lane. Mostly though it would hold 70-75.
So glad that here in Canada we don't have any laws of what you can get. You pass your learners then you can get anything you want. As long as when you take your road test you can handle the bike (or use one smaller when you take the test) you are good to go. My first bike was a 1987 Yamaha FZ600. Road for many years. After I sold it, then it was over 20 years since riding again. And yes I jumped to the great ZX14. Couldn't imagine having to ride a "moped".
That's pretty stupid imho, your first bike is what you learn all the basic skills on. It should be light, precise and not powerful enough to get you into much trouble. I agree that the age thing is dumb too, but the classes (A1/A2/unrestricted) make sense and so does the requirement that you pass on whatever class you want the license for. The last thing you want on your first day is to snatch the throttle open on an old MT-10 and watch it fuck off into the distance while you fall on your arse
@@233kosta idk i don’t think it’s bad to start on a 600cc anything bigger i don’t think it’s safe to start on but if you keep a 600 under 8000 rpm you’ll be fine to learn on. The bottom line is i don’t want my government telling me what kind of bike i can’t ride. if i want my first bike to be a r1 (personally i think that’s a terrible idea) but i don’t think my license should be able to dictate that.
true that, a fresh 125 with the full compression its meant to have can definitely haul ass and you can really feel the difference when you rebuild the top end on a used 125
I started on a ex650, never felt that it is too powerful. In my opinion it's a sweet spot. Next season I would get 600cc sportbike I think, I want a little bit more power
My Brother has done a small wheelie on His 125 city fly - He said it was about the height of a yellow pages stood on its end, and that there was'nt enough kick to get more without sending it fully. Cheers for the ride around and the reveiw 👍
I have a Bajaj Pulsar NS 125. I used to push that little thing to its limits, riding at 5th gear at 9k rpm just below its redline, and for 4500km as well. I even did 120 km/h on it, even though it was rev limiting. Blew a spark plug a few weeks ago, got it repaired, turns out the MAP sensor is also fucked, just an electrical issue though. So glad to be back on the road, I ride it a little more calmly now though, at about 80-90 km/h.
I've opened my exhaust so it's louder purely because I'm a new rider and it was quiet, traffic couldn't hear me and I feel safer knowing other cars can hear me coming
this isn't really accurate, since exhaust sound comes out the rear it only really makes a difference to cars behind you who have of course already seen you
Sound travels, waves from exhausts get pelted backwards, in essense it throws sound behind you. At speed, By the time the loud enough decibels reach cars in front to notice you. You’ll already be in their blind spots while they change lanes into you. Slow speeds louder exhausts may help but more to annoy people rather than let people know where you are. Stocks do a good enough job. Same is often observed in higher cc bikes.
@@yuyutheredbriar2705 So you do not hear a bike travelling towards you? I think Boots do hearing tests 🤣🤣 Oh how you have to admire the armchair theorists that have no practical experience. You obviously do not drive a lorry or a bus
@@mrburn6119 better part if a decade riding, more so riding quiet af 125cc bikes. Why mention colossal size engined vehicles such ad trucks when we are talking about some of the tiniest engines on the road? While ill agree that there are exceptions to the rule such as 50cc moped hair dryers which have an obnoxious hard to miss sound. Your standard 125cc bikes have a much more mellow, weak, sound to them. I also said that while stationery these engines can be picked out of a crowd because the sound waves have all the time in the world to catch up with your ears. At speed, a 125cc basically becomes silent to other drivers, the sound needs more time to catch up to the driver at speed. Point being, loud exhausts wont help much, good positioning and personal spacial awareness gets you noticed and keeps you safe. Also.. no need to be a dick. Grow up.
One of my friends can do wheelies on a 125, he's got a Honda Grom. He also got his license taken away for a couple months for doing a wheelie while the police were close lmao
On my training days on the runup to my big test one of the guys i was out on a road ride with accidentally pulled off a wheelie and got a bollocking. Its more than possible lol
I have been driving for 7 years now and thinking of doing my CBT and getting a 125, is it hard at first? I’m not worried about the road stuff more about actually learning how to ride it as I’ve never even rode a moped or a bike off-road. Is it difficult to pick up? (Clutch etc)
125cc 4-stroke "sportsbike" are something that I really can't imagine doing much of a fun. If I'll get a new one for free selling would be fun. Those are kids bikes. Had a 125cc 2-stroke kx when I was 12ish..
My first road bike was a yamaha dt 125 trailie. It would do 60mph(head tucked in behind the clocks, down hill, and with the wind behind You). I then bought a 1991 yamaha tzr 125 YPVS. That little bike got me to 110mph. It was a little rocket. Handled like a dream. However. It fused the ring onto the piston. TWICE!!!!!. I wonder how that happened .I always regret selling that little beauty.
fully pin it and dump the clutch while shifting weight to the back when it's like 70% to rev limiter it will wheelie , can do it on a 10hp YBR :D anyone reading this be careful, only try and push it in small increments. Get used to using the back brake as soon as you get the front up even if it's like 1ft because that's what's going to stop you crashing if you over do it. Going slightly downhill makes it easier too. also from what i've been told it's a good way to fuck up your fork seals & clutch so keep that in mind
I currently ride a 50cc Reiju, and in it i find it best to sit in the position 3 to the left. Towards the middle, but to the left, because i can do 30 flat out in 5th gear. She struggles to go up the hill to my house at speeds above 20, and never in higher than 2nd or 3rd gear.
Here in Brasil, 125's and 150's are by far the most common motorcycles you'll see on the road, and you'll see guys wheeling this little bikes in any gear you want up to 60-70 mph, if you are cuirous, search for Honda cg 125, cg 150, cg 160, and if you want to see them weelieing them, serach for "Honda cg grau".
Almost all 125 cruisers end up with panniers on. I'm sure you could find an aftermarket seat that replaces the pillion with a top box mount, if wanted. Would look pretty ugly and cramped though.
My first motorcycle was a CZ125. It was built very well but very little power i progressed to Yamaha RD 250, which was like a rocket when I passed my motorcycle driving test I bought myself triumph Bonneville 750 which is great for handling very good on fuel but very unreliable. I had a couple of minor accidents on the bike was getting worse so I sold it and put it towards the deposit in My Home, which was back in 1976 to Home still live in bikes I no longer ride last time road to wheels and hot in holiday in Cuba I hired a mopped
I rode this bike around for a year. Most fun I had on a bike. Got to 70mph with an exhaust and air filter 😂. A bafoon can corner it like motoGP hero and that’s why I loved it
My Honda CB125R i put a new can and got some pretty decent performance increase out of it. Was able to top out at 79-80 mph going downhill on a good day ;) whereas before i would never get that.
Engine swap? Not really in the spirit I could do wheelies on my 50cc moped I rode an nsr125 at 17 that had 25bhp apparently. It was a friend's and could do over 90mph. Being back two strokes. They were great although the new electric bikes although legal create max power all the time so are blisteringly quick compared to a four stroke 125
The problem is they switched from 2 Strokes to 4 strokes but the 2 strokes are way faster and the good thing about them is you could mod them and make them seriously quick for a little 125 CC. It broke my heart when they did because the 4 strokes can not compete with the power of a derestricted 2 stroke. When they switched to 4 stroke the fun and joy of riding these rapid little 125s was gone, they became lawn mower engines basically over night. Not responsive, totally wet in terms of power bands and no power valves that put a smile in your face when they opened it was like a turbo in how they went just crazy. The 4s are just flat as a fart and they killed the 125 power bike market over night just look at the data it says it all. The 90s were a wonderful time for small bikes. It actually forced me to go get my full licence instead of riding in a CBT provisional licence when the stopped the fun. I still own 3, 2 stroke 125s from the 90s and I’m never getting rid of them because they leave the modern 4 strokes standing there and it shows what we lost.
old 2T Aprilia RS 125 can do 99 mph ...an other point of view ...125cc at the islands in Greece (Corfu, Rodes etc) are popular & so many, even older people here getting them, because are cheaper, economic (4T) & can do anything up/down hills, corners, city traffics, any roads (at islands are small any way) and even with 2nd person on it...enduro or on/off 125cc bike can go even at crappy road farms, easiest than normal cars many people use here to rich their olive trees or summer plants... also when was younger no one will go get new exhaust to have better noise or speed, they just was cutting them in half ... thanks for the video
You say about exhaust but i have a yamaha xsr 125 ane just fitted a scorpion full system just for sound change and to me sounds 100 times better and now will be heard when filtering etc. And if others dont like the sounds who cares i enjoy riding even more now and will even more when i eventually move to a bigger bike
Wheelies are hard on 125 sport bikes yeah, but not all 125s. For example duke 125s are pretty easy and supermotos are even easier. Once I even got a duke to go 60mph on one wheel :D
Hi bro, how do you cope with driving on icey roads or when its extremely cold? I dont have a car and I just got a bike so I can go to work. I just wanted your opinion.
My cagiva mito 125cc is stunt built, daytime mot, no lights at all, motorcross handlebars, original 3spoke wheels, fibreglass fuel tank and more, cool vid 🔥🔥
The part about not being able to keep up with traffic isnt really true as the speed limit on a dualie is 50 and even if its a national speed limit my yzfr125 easliy reaches 85 and i know my mates ninja 125 gets like 75 so not holding up traffic at all
I run a 230cc dual sport as my daily, she will wheelie now, but I'm not sure if she will still do it once I swap out the rear sprocket for more top end and less torque 😅 Edit: i mean without rocking her up or redistributing my weight to the rear. Just referring to popping up through sheer torque without repositioning 😆✌️
Back in the 2stroke days a 125cc would be a viable option, but the modern gutless 4strokes are not theyre only for getting yourself ready for a licence. Get an a2 at least so you can ride a sensible 500cc.
i dont get the keeping up with trafic part. my Kawasaki z125 with blackwidow exhaust does 118kmh or 73mph. So i dont know what slow bikes you got but i dont se a problem with keeping up with trafic with a 125cc
ive just modified my gn125, its for kinda different reasons than the usual though. the original CV carb was just giving me nothing but jip so i decided "f**k it" and got a high performance carb and stuck a k&n air filter directly on the intake lol. starts up perfic every time but deffo got a bit louder. honestly found cars notice me a bit more now lol
You can tune 125cc bikes if they are 2stroke bikes. I had a Husqvarna sm 125 which was allowed to have 11ps ,by only removing the limiters and installing a sport exhaust i got it to around 27 ps. I r
I used to take my little Honda CB125F (10.8 bhp) on dual carriageways. She managed 60 for the most part, though that brought the buzz out of the engine. 50 was definitely preferable for that reason alone.
On a couple of downhills I managed to get more speed. Turns out the rev limiter cuts off fuel at 70mph :P
my 2021 cb125f wont go past 63mpg downhill wind behind lol, but yeah, 50 is comfy, and i'm in no rush anyway, i enjoy tootling in the twisty lanes when you usually cant do more than 40 (safely) anyway. GL
@@Bob-ts2tu I'm definitely guilty of carrying way too much speed into some corners while on that 125, glad I don't have to do that any more.
@@233kosta aye, it's easy to do, and i too have to always conciously make an effort to slow right down especially on steep hills with sharp bends, as while the brakes are 'adequate', combined with the gradient, gravel, thinner tyres and lack of talent it can be a deadly combination !! GL
@@Bob-ts2tu I mostly did it to avoid the lengthy process of getting back up to speed. Ironically I'm technically a lot safer in this regard now that I ride a 650 :P
In fact the process of speeding back up is really rather enjoyable now.
But yeh, those skinny tyres do little to help the matter.
@@Catweasle3982 I believe you, i actually opened mine up downhill last week, wind behind and tucked my ample un-aerodynamic frame in the best i could and it showed 66mph lol, so someone lighter, skinner & more flexible wouldnt have a problem getting to 70 io think, however the question is do you really want to?, and also to sustain that speed for long, i think not lol, im happy enough at 50-55 which it'll do all day. GL
exhaust and intake on my Grom has made a huge improvement. I got plenty out of it
IS IT CARB?
@@bencollins6252I think all the groms are FI
Try bigger throttle body and injector then map it, you get 1-2 more hp than stock
@@tumo07 get a RD 125 power valve old skool soz am 54 yrs 125cc motorcrosers defo wheelies
@@tumo07 Yamaha RD125 YPVS Valve
I did feel my front wheel lift off on numerous occasions while I rode a 125, but that was with a 25kg tail bag strapped on and only pulling away from traffic lights.
I used to do pretty decent stoppies though ;)
We’re the stoppies happy accidents by any chance? 😅 I’m getting a 125 ktm rc soon I think and kinda scared to break too hard and eat dirt 😂
@@JustinLT212 Nope, on purpose. As long as you're smooth you're fine. Progressively add brake effort until the forks go all the way down, then a bit more to lift the back wheel A BIT. If you feel like it's going too high up you can always ease off, just don't dump it.
It takes a little while to develop the finesse, but once you're smooth enough this stuff gets real easy to control. Being dead smooth affords you the time to feel exactly what's going on and even think about what to do next, but you've got to edge your way to the limits, can't just jump in. That then also teaches you how the bike responds near said limits and how to correct if you overstep.
Smooth, progressive inputs are your best friend. Sharp, abrupt inputs are your worst enemy. "Slow is smooth and smooth is fast" applies here just as much as it does to martial arts.
@@JustinLT212 i did tons of stoppies while emergency breaking on my rc 125. how is yours treating you?
@@mavr6384 I didn’t end up getting one, got my drivers license and started driving a car like a boring fucker 🙃🙃😢😂😂
@@JustinLT212better decision but boring lol 😂
My wee daughter has just bought one of these and just turned 19 and I know naff all about bikes.
It is a 2021 with 0358 on the clock yes 358.
After I watched your video I have taken your advice and fitted an Oxford anchor in my driveway for her with alarmed disc lock and ring doorbell.
So the security is sorted and thanks very much for the theft advice.
I was terrified of her riding it when I saw how mean it looked sitting on it in the showroom picture.
But.....After watching you handle this little bike with professional ease and seeing how small and light it is in the video and its lack of power, you have made me feel more relaxed now about riding it.
I do watch the TT and the Irish skerries and I follow Michael Dunlop and know the history of his family, but that is the extent of my bike knowledge.
I was terrified the bike was going to be like Clark Kent on the driveway and superman on the road, my wife watched your video too and feels more relaxed now.
TYVM for a superb video and all the best to you and your wife.
PS she takes her CBT on the 29th so I won't see the bike until April but at least now I am looking forward to it.
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Yeh, lots of bikes look like absolute speed machines, but as a general rule, if you see an L-plate and no instructor it's bound to be slower than your car. The A1 limit is 15bhp, which... ain't much.
How did she do on her CBT, by the way?
You poor sap LOL you need a son
depending on where you live consider a tracker. Personally I have been using monimoto
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Weridly enough, in Australia (NSW), you can ride upto a 660cc bike on a Learners license, which i gotta admit is pretty wild
Yeah, it's insane. I test rode a Triumph Tiger sport 660 recently and no way would that be suitable for a beginner.
I mean, I'm sure a beginner could probably figure it out but it's definitely jumping in the deep end. I reckon if I was given an opportunity to ride one of those in my first week of riding, I probably would've instantly launched myself into a wall 😅.
I’m a month into my 125 riding experience, loving every second, Iv got a 55 mile commute, luckily 50mph is the fastest I need to go, looks like you live near me, see you on the road, il be the one with L plates and a hi viz helmet,
What bike did you get I got the new mt does 120 mpg and gets 70 plus
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Bro come on I'd wheelie any 125cc out there.
@Yuka I’ve got the 2023 version of this bike and it’s easy asf too wheelie 😂 I could wheelie my old Honda Pcx too
You can wheelie a tiny ass honda wave 😅 it's big bikes that are difficult
Yeah you can 100% wheelie any 125😂 I’ve so my mate wheelie 50cc mopeds
I have a friend that wheelies a 50cc and I’m not even jk
Not my sinnis terrain you wouldn’t I’ve tried too much 🤣🤣
I used to love tuning the old 2 strokes. Imo that's worth it. Plenty you can do to squeeze a bit more out of them although your reliability goes as fast as your rev counter and your hearing 😄
the reason why I stopped at 1.30 when he said no mod for performance (laughter) just shows his ignorance. 125 2t restricted 14hp, derestricted and tuned 21hp
@@mrburn6119that's cool, but there hasn't been a road legal 2 stroke 125cc motorbike in the UK since 2008. so for the massive majority of people that will be using a 4 stroke, it is sound advice.
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Over 30 capable
@@friendlysnoworb6091Nope, 2011
@@friendlysnoworb6091 ktm exc 125 production years? It does not really matter when they were produced, plenty of old skool 2 strokes registered on the road.
And yes while you may be correct that the vast majority have 4 strokes, a group of several thousand (2strokes) is to be ignored? which some might see as ignorance on the subject.
i was going up a 1:3 hill in 2nd, and had to really slow almost to a stop for a bend with broken surface. as the bike started chugging i dropped it into first and scared myself shitless when i pulled an unexpected wheelie lol, but no damage done and a lesson learned. GL
Totally agree with your comments. Just got my A license and traded in the 125 duke for a 790. If anything the 125 was better around town but for the open road there's no comparison. Any headwind or gradient and the 125 really struggled to keep up.
What did it for me is duel carriageways with a strong headwind I could hardly hold 45mph. Most other time it was OK for 60mph. Hills were also a pain In the ass. Sometimes it wouldn't even pull 3rd. Just had to red line in 2nd all the way up.
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@@chrishart8548wtf kind of 125 did u have. Iv never seen or ridden a 125 4 storke that struggles to hit 60 mph. I coud to 60+ mph on the freeway with my instructor on the back ( he weights around 80kg) and with the wind against me. So idk why kind of bike u have
@@nisufisu cb125rs cb125T xr125l wr125r r-125 cg125's are definitely slower again.
I get my 2024 Duke 125 this Friday. I plan on staying well away from boring dual carriage ways. I'll be going in the peak district, countryside, cornerly heaven 🙌🏼
Wheelies are possible just very difficult 😂 have to go to many different lengths to bring the front wheel up - a lot easier to wheelie a 125 moped only due to the weight difference
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You just have to be brave with your clutch dumping and suspension loading. Not really something I'd think most CBT level riders would be safe to attempt, even on a closed private course, but it certainly helps to have a lower final drive ratio and a more upright style to take advantage of weight distribution.
@@S7AINLESS 100% for sure took me a good few months to get consistent on my duke 125 takes a lot of work haha really compressing the forks down and u gotta be quite brave to shift ur weight way over the back took a lot of little 1 foot wheel pops before i really got the hang of it 😂😂 way i see it if u can wheelie a 125 u can wheelie anything for sure
I've taken my 125cc yamaha yzf-r from Reading to Oxford. It's doable, not pleasant. You can (somewhat) comfortable sit at 70+ (and by plus I mean 75 top speed on flat ground) all the way on dual carriageways. I bought mine with an aftermarket exhaust on, and it sounds like a pop pop boat.
That being said, I would not want to take it any further than maybe a 300km roundtrip
Biking for the last 40 years i often wonder about the purpose of a 125cc and 250cc more than learning to ride a bike when they are sloooow beyond inagination. I once started on a 12 hp Honda CB125 K5 and i couldnt overtake anything normal on the road with that bike. These days i try to stay behind them on my Hayabusa from time to time just to make them feeling happy. They are often new bikers and need some uplifting feeling while reaching their redmark rpm while still going sloooow. 👍
Thanks brother . Maybe you need to rediscover the joy of full throttle fun at low speeds . Let us hear that turbo as you hyperspeed past.
It's a mode of transport when you are poor.
Yeah, I like to greet the kids on the 50cc dirt bikes. Makes them really happy.
the reason is that here in Europe 16 year olds are only allowed to drive up to 125cc's. When you are 18 you can drive 300cc's and when you are 21 you can drive anything. So yeah as a 16 year old that lives in Italy and is getting his A1 (the license to drive 125cc's) driving license I'm extremely excited to the fact that I will be able to drive a 125 very soon. It surely is better than the 50cc scooter (which you can drive at 14yo) that I have now anyways.
125cc was and is first bike. 80kmh is enough for anything. I've got absolutely good mpg and didn't rev above 7k for the last year.
Bro what mic are you using? That's so crisp with the helmet open 😳
@T0PG 😂
In Asia like Thailand and many other south east Asian countries, they have a very rich culture on modifying small 125-150cc motorcycles. They managed to tune and take it up to a much higher topspeed than stocks, some of them notably can push a madly tuned 150cc to run up to 210+km/hr ( over 130mph ) while the stock can only run at 120-140km/hr ( 74-80mph ). Some of them also add in turbo or do a big bore kits and new gearing with additional turbo which makes it even more more powerful. You’d be surprised of how much they can juice out of that tiny engine. The cost is about an additional 2 150cc motorcycle worth. So the usual price of a 150cc new around 2.2k usd and with 4-5k usd high performance mods and tunes. Some would say why not just use that money and buy a 2nd hand bigger bike instead but they don’t, it’s just what they like to do, is make small thing powerful.
Bro talking about not being able to wheelie under 250cc. Me doing wheelies on my 65cc tomos moped.
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Omg Tomos comes from my ex country Yugoslavia. Everyone used to have them. I'm so glad to hear that they are still going 😊
it's utterly baffling why we were relegated to 50cc and 125cc as learners. I'm a big boy and heavy set with the added weight of being a bit over weight and 125 are barely tolerable. I actively have to take routs that cut more steeper hills out of my journey. the learner legal limit should have been 250 restricted to 80 to 90mph at like 20 to 25bhp. Yes, there are idiots out there but for the most part, 125's are just not fit for purpose when we're talking non urban travel and most riders, no matter disposition, tend to be pretty road savvy. I also think it plant seeds of fear of the bigger bikes in some way too. and fear leads to hesitation and on motorcycles, that can be a detriment more times than it isn't.
Totally agree. I've mentioned in previous videos 125s are too small, and the jump between a 125 and a 300 - 400 for A2 motorcycle is huge! Should be 250 imo
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It was that way back in the seventies,at 17 you could ride a 250 on on L plates with a provisional licence,some of the bikes were 28 HP,and with some allspeeds and k&n filters,most could do 100 mph.probably the best one i had was the suzuki GT250 X7,A road rocket.and considering you did not have to pass any test,only writing in for a provisional license,and off you go!It was very unfair when the uk reduced learner bikes with max 12 hp because that applied to everybody.no grandfather rights.the only compensation we got was if we were to take a motorcycle test now,we only have to take 1 test,for unlimited cc.
Nanny state. Anyone could comfortably start on a 650, and anyone with maturity could start on anything.
if you are talking about the UK!? flashback to the 70s and 80s the 50cc you could ride at aged 16 with a provisional license and L plates. thats a moped with pedals that flip over like foot pegs,but not restricted to 30mph so our fs1e ap50s did 50 mph easy some a bit more even 60mph.But aged 17 and with that same provisional license was learner legal with l plates 250cc of course most two strokes and a few(slower) were 4 strokes yamaha rds suzuki gts right around 28 hp probably the fastest of the 250s we were still allowed was the GT250X7, i had 105 mph out of mine.It was normal in the uk a thing called grandfather rights if you had a license for something and was already legal to drive that,then even if they changed the law they could not take it away from the older people.grandfather rights.But they did just that when they made mopeds max speed 30mph with fixed foot pegs and the new learner legal 125cc with max power restricted to 12hp.So yes back in my day we had fast 250s and with a few mods like expansion pipes k&N filters a little more power most of our bikes could do 100 mph.
I think u can actually do a whellie on a 125cc, cuz i do whellies on my 50cc bike, but it is true that u cant hold them for very long
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I remember when I was in my early 20`s I had a Yamaha Rd125lc and had problems keeping the front wheel down. My friend who had a DTR125 was always pulling wheelies. What happened to the 125 2 stroke wheelie machines of yesteryear?
@@insertnamehere3007 I know what you mean about hitting differently. My last 2 stroke was the Suzuki GT380 triple (the one with the square bore) it was supposed to have only 38bhp but seemed to have way more than that. That little rocket ship never liked the centre spark plug, it was always spitting it out. that was also stolen from outside the Redbeck motel/diner at Wakefield. :/
Environmental Laws. They killed it all.
@@winteronice Honestly for the better. I'm always reminded whenever I start up my snowmobile of how much better it is nowadays.
I just finished restoring a 1982 example a week ago, it's a surprisingly fun little beast considering it makes all of 21 bhp or something. You do pretty much have to ride it like an absolute hooligan (like 7-10k rpm at all times) to get any power out, it's good to be back on a 2-stroke :D
Riding one now as my daily commute for 5 years - kmx 125, dts and even less rds are about
At 47, all I'm going to do to my 125cc (when I work out which one I'm getting lol) is crash protection. Maybe a screen, too.
I don't see the point for myself as I intend to have the bike less than a year before I move on.
For people who plan on keeping their 125cc for a few years, though, maybe...
Also, have you seen the 2023 Yamaha YZF-R125?
£5.5k, and comes with traction control, colour tft screen, and is pre-wired to accept Yamaha's quickshifter system.
Looks like a baby R7, unsure if I'd be willing to pay that much, but if you've got the money, and really like it...
@Insert Name Here I can see what Yamaha is trying to do with bike branding. But, I agree. £5.5k is too much for a 125cc. It's a lot of money if you're a younger person to find. And if you're older and going for your DAC, like I am, you might only have it for 6 months. Which kind of makes it a bit pointless.
For £5.5k I can get all sorts of bigger bikes...
@@Sidowse I seriously think you should stay away from Motorbikes.
Johns right completely different things Simon your over thinking is dangerous learn from a professional don’t be bitter your thinking smart but not clever
@@Sidowse Hi Simon, it's kind of obvious from what you're saying you don't really know much about motorcycles. But that's alright, you can learn.
There are plenty of youtubers out there with training videos such as Motorcycle Lessons UK and Motojitsu.
As well as a plethora of books. I'd recommend Motorcycle Roadcraft, I know many colleges swear by it.
Hey Simon to be honest i couldn’t tell you sorry if I’ve angered you in anyway I just think you shouldn’t compare bike to moterbike ,the braking is completely different you would be using the engine to slow down also , I don’t own a motercycle so couldn’t give u actual advice
Very stylish little bike that ninja, had a youngster pull up next to me at the lights on a green one, and complimented him on it.
idk man, I loved my cb125f, did wheelies, did stoppies, I even had it up to 70mph with a little downhill. Such a good starting 125
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Looks like a fun bike. I rode 250Rs from Kawasaki that were a ton of fun and could easily handle most freeway situations, with the exception of passing while going up hills, which they weren't good at as their main weakness. But everything else, they were good at. They could do a wheelie from a stop, pulling in the clutch, revving to 7500+ RPMs and then completely letting the clutch go instantly, which was not fun at all and highly not recommended due to the sudden jolt from 0 to fast and the bike's front end going far up. I wonder if the 125cc could do that, but not really worth trying IMO. I avoid wheelies on my '21 Ninja 650 too.
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I used to take my 125 on the motorway.
It shaved 5 miles off my journey.
It was ok tbh.
Only did 60 on one stretch but lorries can only do 56 so i was fine in the inside lane.
Mostly though it would hold 70-75.
"you can't wheelie a 125cc motorcycle"
Jamaicans: are you challenging me?
So glad that here in Canada we don't have any laws of what you can get. You pass your learners then you can get anything you want. As long as when you take your road test you can handle the bike (or use one smaller when you take the test) you are good to go. My first bike was a 1987 Yamaha FZ600. Road for many years. After I sold it, then it was over 20 years since riding again. And yes I jumped to the great ZX14. Couldn't imagine having to ride a "moped".
Yeah my first bike was a zx6r. These days they have different power modes which is cool. Helps keep from outgrowing the bike so fast
You missed the point that you can ride a "moped" without taking any test, just with your car license.
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That's pretty stupid imho, your first bike is what you learn all the basic skills on. It should be light, precise and not powerful enough to get you into much trouble.
I agree that the age thing is dumb too, but the classes (A1/A2/unrestricted) make sense and so does the requirement that you pass on whatever class you want the license for.
The last thing you want on your first day is to snatch the throttle open on an old MT-10 and watch it fuck off into the distance while you fall on your arse
@@233kosta idk i don’t think it’s bad to start on a 600cc anything bigger i don’t think it’s safe to start on but if you keep a 600 under 8000 rpm you’ll be fine to learn on. The bottom line is i don’t want my government telling me what kind of bike i can’t ride. if i want my first bike to be a r1 (personally i think that’s a terrible idea) but i don’t think my license should be able to dictate that.
ive been zipping aorund on a yzf r125 for a few years now. love it. you can use 100% of the bike almost all the time lol
Can i ask how old are you? I wonder what is the average age of 125 riders.
@@strangerwe9776 pretty sure the main average is between 17 and 19 and thats the rough age of the cbt and A1
Can I hit highway speeds on a 125? I really want a 125 but wouldn’t get it only for that reason.
@@nathanielreeves_dev you will not be able to hit any high speeds on a 125cc engine motorcycle, yzf 125 like 80 mph max
@@nathanielreeves_devyeah it can sit at 70mph at about 9000 rpm but not very healthy for long ranges
for a 125 maintinence means alot you can get more speed from just taking care of the bike and also get a yammy yzf 125 will happily sit at 70
true that, a fresh 125 with the full compression its meant to have can definitely haul ass and you can really feel the difference when you rebuild the top end on a used 125
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@@sonix7119 UNTIL YOU HAVE TO REBUILD THE ENGINE FOR THE 3RD TIME THIS MONTH
I started on a ex650, never felt that it is too powerful. In my opinion it's a sweet spot.
Next season I would get 600cc sportbike I think, I want a little bit more power
Ain't nobody gonna talk about the 15 minute detour?😂
My Brother has done a small wheelie on His 125 city fly - He said it was about the height of a yellow pages stood on its end, and that there was'nt enough kick to get more without sending it fully. Cheers for the ride around and the reveiw 👍
Are you in a cult . The yellow pages was phased out in the late 90s.
I cant disscuss matters of the page with a non-believer. You need faith in the pages of yellow My freind
@@louisimission2153 lol fair dos
I have a Bajaj Pulsar NS 125. I used to push that little thing to its limits, riding at 5th gear at 9k rpm just below its redline, and for 4500km as well. I even did 120 km/h on it, even though it was rev limiting. Blew a spark plug a few weeks ago, got it repaired, turns out the MAP sensor is also fucked, just an electrical issue though. So glad to be back on the road, I ride it a little more calmly now though, at about 80-90 km/h.
Still riding the cagiva mito mk2 Lawson bike I bought in 1992, still the most fun bike I've ever owned,
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My dad took me down this road a few years back on his mt10, we hit a pothole and almost flew off the handle bars lol
Nice to see someone local pop up on RUclips
I just got my cbt today I’m riding a lexmoto vixen and it is quite a fun first bike does what it needs to
I've opened my exhaust so it's louder purely because I'm a new rider and it was quiet, traffic couldn't hear me and I feel safer knowing other cars can hear me coming
this isn't really accurate, since exhaust sound comes out the rear it only really makes a difference to cars behind you who have of course already seen you
@@BlackMesaEmployee 🤣🤣🤣🤣 so on that principle someone stood behind me would not hear what I say??
You obviously do not drive a lorry or bus
Sound travels, waves from exhausts get pelted backwards, in essense it throws sound behind you. At speed, By the time the loud enough decibels reach cars in front to notice you. You’ll already be in their blind spots while they change lanes into you.
Slow speeds louder exhausts may help but more to annoy people rather than let people know where you are. Stocks do a good enough job. Same is often observed in higher cc bikes.
@@yuyutheredbriar2705 So you do not hear a bike travelling towards you? I think Boots do hearing tests 🤣🤣
Oh how you have to admire the armchair theorists that have no practical experience. You obviously do not drive a lorry or a bus
@@mrburn6119 better part if a decade riding, more so riding quiet af 125cc bikes.
Why mention colossal size engined vehicles such ad trucks when we are talking about some of the tiniest engines on the road?
While ill agree that there are exceptions to the rule such as 50cc moped hair dryers which have an obnoxious hard to miss sound. Your standard 125cc bikes have a much more mellow, weak, sound to them.
I also said that while stationery these engines can be picked out of a crowd because the sound waves have all the time in the world to catch up with your ears. At speed, a 125cc basically becomes silent to other drivers, the sound needs more time to catch up to the driver at speed.
Point being, loud exhausts wont help much, good positioning and personal spacial awareness gets you noticed and keeps you safe.
Also.. no need to be a dick. Grow up.
i have accidentaly wheelied my cbr 125 so it is possible to wheelie a 125
I had a 73 Yamaha DT125 that was rated at 8hp. What a little screamer. 😊
That was a nice R8! Good video, really informative!
The point of mapping is to eliminate flat spots that were engineered-in by 'Construction and Use' regs for emissions and noise restrictions.
One of my friends can do wheelies on a 125, he's got a Honda Grom. He also got his license taken away for a couple months for doing a wheelie while the police were close lmao
it was fun watching this review.
I don’t know what kind of 125s you have been riding but there’s endless mods you can do to a 125…
I’m starting with the ZX6R as my first motorcycle 😊
Lucky you I have to buy 125cc and they are expensive but ninja would be like even under 1k
On my training days on the runup to my big test one of the guys i was out on a road ride with accidentally pulled off a wheelie and got a bollocking. Its more than possible lol
I had a full power Kawasaki AR125 in 1987... 22bhp and more speed than I needed as a youngster.
I have been driving for 7 years now and thinking of doing my CBT and getting a 125, is it hard at first? I’m not worried about the road stuff more about actually learning how to ride it as I’ve never even rode a moped or a bike off-road. Is it difficult to pick up? (Clutch etc)
125 Honda Grom is a great bike for wheelies and stunts 🤣
125cc 4-stroke "sportsbike" are something that I really can't imagine doing much of a fun. If I'll get a new one for free selling would be fun. Those are kids bikes. Had a 125cc 2-stroke kx when I was 12ish..
My first road bike was a yamaha dt 125 trailie. It would do 60mph(head tucked in behind the clocks, down hill, and with the wind behind You). I then bought a 1991 yamaha tzr 125 YPVS. That little bike got me to 110mph. It was a little rocket. Handled like a dream. However. It fused the ring onto the piston. TWICE!!!!!. I wonder how that happened .I always regret selling that little beauty.
fully pin it and dump the clutch while shifting weight to the back when it's like 70% to rev limiter it will wheelie , can do it on a 10hp YBR :D anyone reading this be careful, only try and push it in small increments. Get used to using the back brake as soon as you get the front up even if it's like 1ft because that's what's going to stop you crashing if you over do it. Going slightly downhill makes it easier too.
also from what i've been told it's a good way to fuck up your fork seals & clutch so keep that in mind
I currently ride a 50cc Reiju, and in it i find it best to sit in the position 3 to the left. Towards the middle, but to the left, because i can do 30 flat out in 5th gear. She struggles to go up the hill to my house at speeds above 20, and never in higher than 2nd or 3rd gear.
Get the restrictors out, I’m assuming it’s a 2 stroke?
125cc = Top Speed Mission 👌
My first bike was a 1984 AR 125 , I was 17, I'm soon 57 & still riding Kawasaki ✊️
I rode a 125cc at 17 that had 27 ish BHP. Good old two strokes.
You could do wellies on that , and more than 90mph
Here in Brasil, 125's and 150's are by far the most common motorcycles you'll see on the road, and you'll see guys wheeling this little bikes in any gear you want up to 60-70 mph, if you are cuirous, search for Honda cg 125, cg 150, cg 160, and if you want to see them weelieing them, serach for "Honda cg grau".
1:54 NO! Only on 4 strokes !
Almost all 125 cruisers end up with panniers on. I'm sure you could find an aftermarket seat that replaces the pillion with a top box mount, if wanted. Would look pretty ugly and cramped though.
They can do some things quickly, like very tight roads and down hills especially twisty ones.
I use my xsr125 daily for 25 miles on the A30 and M5 lol, just gotta plan for overtakes and lane changing
You are right,but still it sounds rather arrogant
We all started on these or even less
I would definitely modify your moped to do 72 mph, mine does, its two stroke and makes all current 4T 125s seem boring.
2-stroke 125s for the win 🙂
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my honda cbf125 from 2011 traveled 500km NO STOP, along 12 hours + 30kg of sidebags and STILL MANAGED over 50KM/L
My first motorcycle was a CZ125. It was built very well but very little power i progressed to Yamaha RD 250, which was like a rocket when I passed my motorcycle driving test I bought myself triumph Bonneville 750 which is great for handling very good on fuel but very unreliable. I had a couple of minor accidents on the bike was getting worse so I sold it and put it towards the deposit in My Home, which was back in 1976 to Home still live in bikes I no longer ride last time road to wheels and hot in holiday in Cuba I hired a mopped
The mk1 full power Yamaha RD125LC (21bhp) would lift the front wheel off the throttle no problem even when you were not trying!
Use your gears for the hils my bike it's 60mph up any hill
KTM EXC 125 will wheelie in every gear once you hit the powerbands.
I drive a Mt125 and have gone on a straight 137km/h in good weather
I rode this bike around for a year. Most fun I had on a bike. Got to 70mph with an exhaust and air filter 😂. A bafoon can corner it like motoGP hero and that’s why I loved it
My Honda CB125R i put a new can and got some pretty decent performance increase out of it.
Was able to top out at 79-80 mph going downhill on a good day ;) whereas before i would never get that.
Hey wdym by a new can and that made it faster? I want to buy a 125 but have been worried that it won’t take me on the highway
When 15 min zones and cities come.. 125 is tha thing
Im going to get a kawazaki 125rr ninja special addition for my bday
Engine swap? Not really in the spirit
I could do wheelies on my 50cc moped
I rode an nsr125 at 17 that had 25bhp apparently. It was a friend's and could do over 90mph.
Being back two strokes. They were great although the new electric bikes although legal create max power all the time so are blisteringly quick compared to a four stroke 125
Dump the clutch at 6k rpm and that front wheel will be up😁
What if what I want to do is go 120 mph down highway?
The problem is they switched from 2 Strokes to 4 strokes but the 2 strokes are way faster and the good thing about them is you could mod them and make them seriously quick for a little 125 CC. It broke my heart when they did because the 4 strokes can not compete with the power of a derestricted 2 stroke. When they switched to 4 stroke the fun and joy of riding these rapid little 125s was gone, they became lawn mower engines basically over night. Not responsive, totally wet in terms of power bands and no power valves that put a smile in your face when they opened it was like a turbo in how they went just crazy. The 4s are just flat as a fart and they killed the 125 power bike market over night just look at the data it says it all. The 90s were a wonderful time for small bikes. It actually forced me to go get my full licence instead of riding in a CBT provisional licence when the stopped the fun. I still own 3, 2 stroke 125s from the 90s and I’m never getting rid of them because they leave the modern 4 strokes standing there and it shows what we lost.
dude haven't seen a modded 125cc bike in southeast asia reaching 200kmh
You can get a malossi upgrade kit up to a 180cc.
old 2T Aprilia RS 125 can do 99 mph ...an other point of view ...125cc at the islands in Greece (Corfu, Rodes etc) are popular & so many, even older people here getting them, because are cheaper, economic (4T) & can do anything up/down hills, corners, city traffics, any roads (at islands are small any way) and even with 2nd person on it...enduro or on/off 125cc bike can go even at crappy road farms, easiest than normal cars many people use here to rich their olive trees or summer plants... also when was younger no one will go get new exhaust to have better noise or speed, they just was cutting them in half ... thanks for the video
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I did a wheelie on a 50cc Mokik (russian made compact moped)
You say about exhaust but i have a yamaha xsr 125 ane just fitted a scorpion full system just for sound change and to me sounds 100 times better and now will be heard when filtering etc. And if others dont like the sounds who cares i enjoy riding even more now and will even more when i eventually move to a bigger bike
Wheelies are hard on 125 sport bikes yeah, but not all 125s. For example duke 125s are pretty easy and supermotos are even easier. Once I even got a duke to go 60mph on one wheel :D
4:00 look at the German community, we do wheelies on 125ccms 😂
Clutch, (1st gear) go to the rev limiter and just let the clutch out as fast as possible
Hi bro, how do you cope with driving on icey roads or when its extremely cold? I dont have a car and I just got a bike so I can go to work. I just wanted your opinion.
When you go to take a corner on a 125 do you lean and turn the handle bars??
if you know how to properly wheelie at balance point then you can wheelie pretty much any bike 125cc included
Hills? im 120kg, and i got a honda 125 up a steep hill in hudderfield, but you have to use 2nd or third gear if you have the momentum.
My cagiva mito 125cc is stunt built, daytime mot, no lights at all, motorcross handlebars, original 3spoke wheels, fibreglass fuel tank and more, cool vid 🔥🔥
4-STROKE P-O-S !!!
2-STROKE RULES !!! :)
The part about not being able to keep up with traffic isnt really true as the speed limit on a dualie is 50 and even if its a national speed limit my yzfr125 easliy reaches 85 and i know my mates ninja 125 gets like 75 so not holding up traffic at all
my Hoodlum loves A-roads.
I run a 230cc dual sport as my daily, she will wheelie now, but I'm not sure if she will still do it once I swap out the rear sprocket for more top end and less torque 😅
Edit: i mean without rocking her up or redistributing my weight to the rear. Just referring to popping up through sheer torque without repositioning 😆✌️
Back in the 2stroke days a 125cc would be a viable option, but the modern gutless 4strokes are not theyre only for getting yourself ready for a licence. Get an a2 at least so you can ride a sensible 500cc.
Well about the top speed i disagree with you because i have 125cc keeway 2019 and i do 70mph with it so...
They are worth tuning you can double your horse power 12 to 23 hp that not worth it ?
i dont get the keeping up with trafic part. my Kawasaki z125 with blackwidow exhaust does 118kmh or 73mph. So i dont know what slow bikes you got but i dont se a problem with keeping up with trafic with a 125cc
ive just modified my gn125, its for kinda different reasons than the usual though. the original CV carb was just giving me nothing but jip so i decided "f**k it" and got a high performance carb and stuck a k&n air filter directly on the intake lol. starts up perfic every time but deffo got a bit louder. honestly found cars notice me a bit more now lol
Aftermarket echasuts deffo sound better than stock hairdryer sound
You can tune 125cc bikes if they are 2stroke bikes. I had a Husqvarna sm 125 which was allowed to have 11ps ,by only removing the limiters and installing a sport exhaust i got it to around 27 ps. I r