The myriad copy of the Knight Paladin would enter as a tapped, non-creature, non-attacking copy because the fact that the original one is crewed is not a copiable value.
Don’t think I’ve seen moth man win a single game on one of these vids 😭 But in all seriousness I do really appreciate this format. It’s nice when you’re just trying to see how a deck plays.
The vehicle myriad rules have already been discussed, but the Foreboding Steamboat triggers on attack. Since the myriad copy enters attacking, the attack trigger doesn’t happen so the second copy that exiled Danitha on etb would not be able to put it into the graveyard.
Yay, another great vid. Although have to admit, Marie leaving Thought Vessel untapped instead of a Plains on her turn 7 gave me some really hard time lol.
I always hound my casual tables for leaving up colors/lands up instead colorless or just artifacts. Everytime i hear "Its fine im going for game." i have to prepare for a 10min math check, wiff, and them dying because they closed off their own interaction
Im pretty sure Squad counts as a triggered ability so Delney would double up on the trigger as well. So Marie should have gotten 2 copies of Gary Clone and gained 6. Yes Gary Clone is really busted in delney.
I really think players who are running the mothman really need to lean more into the blue side of the color spectrum and really load the deck up with counterspells or other sources of interrupts/protection for mothman so he can stay on the board. When I run this deck, I often find myself keep mothman in the command zone until I feel as though I'm in the position to either comfortably sit on the board and not draw attention or I have ways to keep him from being targetted.
actually one of my pet creature-types, spellshapers, fits pretty well. Bog Witch lets you Dark Ritual while discarding Parhelion, Devout Witness lets you Disenchant, etc. :)
This game and the others convinced me to not build/buy Mothman... I really like this commander, but it clearly shows that you just either get completly shutdown because he is so scarry on his own and constantly removed or you actually get to build up something and THEN get shutdown. Like Mothman feels like a real "trap" commander. Strong in theory, but in practice the entire table just keeps you down because everything you do is slow, strong and PREDICTABLE, just like Chishiro.
Unfortunately I have to agree with you. I wanted to build him initially because he’s unique and different from my usual builds but people really want him dead, so I feel like every game would be an uphill battle.
"Find these decks on moxfield"...no sign of the Greasefang deck on moxfield :(. Jokes aside, I would love to see what your Greasefang list looks like once you have it uploaded!
The myriad copy of the Knight Paladin would enter as a tapped, non-creature, non-attacking copy because the fact that the original one is crewed is not a copiable value.
Oh no! Shoot. That's way less good than I had anticipated.
@@MTGMuddstah Yeah, myriad is a nombo with vehicles, or any animated noncreature permanents, unless you're focusing on the ETBs.
Well there goes my Rex Nebula deck
@@MTGMuddstah yeah. I had to go through the same realization when building my own Greasefang deck
Don’t think I’ve seen moth man win a single game on one of these vids 😭
But in all seriousness I do really appreciate this format. It’s nice when you’re just trying to see how a deck plays.
The vehicle myriad rules have already been discussed, but the Foreboding Steamboat triggers on attack. Since the myriad copy enters attacking, the attack trigger doesn’t happen so the second copy that exiled Danitha on etb would not be able to put it into the graveyard.
Me: oh cool I get to watch a game with mothman, as I'M building the deck
Maxime: Nah I dont think so
Lmao, that
"Scoop it up... BUT WAIT" is a mood. Good stuff
most fair and fun commander game ive seen in awhile
and ive always been impressed with Mothman
Yay, another great vid. Although have to admit, Marie leaving Thought Vessel untapped instead of a Plains on her turn 7 gave me some really hard time lol.
I always hound my casual tables for leaving up colors/lands up instead colorless or just artifacts. Everytime i hear
"Its fine im going for game." i have to prepare for a 10min math check, wiff, and them dying because they closed off their own interaction
@@ColorfulHelices Even the bluff of a potential Swords to Plowshares is good enough to sway others from doing xyz.
4:12 since Squad makes the tokens on ETB, Marie should have made a third Gary Clone and gained two more life
Power Fist doesn't double counters it's based on the total damage dealt so it's even better!
Keep the mothman vids coming 🔥🔥
Im pretty sure Squad counts as a triggered ability so Delney would double up on the trigger as well. So Marie should have gotten 2 copies of Gary Clone and gained 6. Yes Gary Clone is really busted in delney.
Yeah the Squad 2 part is an additional cost on the stack but the etb part is the triggered ability due to it saying "when" as opposed to "as"
I really think players who are running the mothman really need to lean more into the blue side of the color spectrum and really load the deck up with counterspells or other sources of interrupts/protection for mothman so he can stay on the board. When I run this deck, I often find myself keep mothman in the command zone until I feel as though I'm in the position to either comfortably sit on the board and not draw attention or I have ways to keep him from being targetted.
Congrats Muddstah i don't think that you missed a single esper sentinel trigger.
Everyone kept paying for it =(
Unlike Rhystic, Sentinel's draw is mandatory, so he can always remember and draw on the spot.
Always love to see Greasefang back on the table!
Anyone know what the music in the background is? 😊
Greasefang deck list ? Would love to check out your build.
Do you have a link for the greasefang deck?
Where is the greasefang deck list?
**sees patreon name** No, people, it's not Evil Adam and his Derevi deck...
Am I wrong in thinking that Felix should have been putting counters on the Mothman every time the rad counters were milling non-lands?
Dont vehicles have summoning sickness? I thought even if they are crewed, if they come in this turn they need haste to attack.
Greasefang gives them haste.
Good morning! Nice seeing Mothman here, looking to rework mine a bit.
Marie should have two gary clone copies since the squad cost gives the card an etb effect.
Love Greasefang - discard outlets can be money in the deck too
actually one of my pet creature-types, spellshapers, fits pretty well. Bog Witch lets you Dark Ritual while discarding Parhelion, Devout Witness lets you Disenchant, etc. :)
This game and the others convinced me to not build/buy Mothman... I really like this commander, but it clearly shows that you just either get completly shutdown because he is so scarry on his own and constantly removed or you actually get to build up something and THEN get shutdown. Like Mothman feels like a real "trap" commander. Strong in theory, but in practice the entire table just keeps you down because everything you do is slow, strong and PREDICTABLE, just like Chishiro.
Unfortunately I have to agree with you. I wanted to build him initially because he’s unique and different from my usual builds but people really want him dead, so I feel like every game would be an uphill battle.
Which basics are you running in Greasefang? I like that art.
Man, I want to like the mothman but I just have never seen it do anything.
Too threatening for it's own good, always gets focused down and doesn't defend well.
Eric the spoiler wall 2 w 3 c
Creature - legenday Wall God
Flying
Indestructable
Eric the spoiler wall may block
any number of spoiler creatures
0/9
9:13 Marie should gain 4 life. And another 2 at 11:10
Bruh that Duskana deck was 🔥
If you like Shorikai and/or Greasefang I would also recommend trying an Alela Artful Provacateur vehicle deck
First! Excited to see some Mothman!
Y’all are going for higher power, I see. Seemed like a balanced game. Everyone had threats.
Radiation that could
"Find these decks on moxfield"...no sign of the Greasefang deck on moxfield :(. Jokes aside, I would love to see what your Greasefang list looks like once you have it uploaded!
I need that Greasefang decklist 😔