I'm 33 years old and I only just learned about this part of Hawaii's history last week. Not even the tiniest whiff of it in school or in the media. America's education system has failed us on so many levels
@@joelbyrnes9710 haole means foreigner...not white yes, some take it that way, but it doesn't mean white. in the old days, all who were from another place were called haole, and it was used as a normal word. after the illegal overthrow though that changed because of who specifically did what they did and who came after them.
As a youngster we visited Hawaii and I discovered one day walking to a local store, they were not fond of Americans. I wondered why Americans would want to live there. Visiting was fine but why live where you were not wanted? Later in my early 20's a couple moved there and she reported the same thing after 13 years of going to their local little store, the people there did not care for her and did not know her name. They moved soon after that back to the states. I learned how the US captured their beloved queen - not in school but through friends.
The streets in Hawaii are named after the men who locked up our Queen and stole our islands while killing our people! DILLINGHAM, DOLE, THURSTON on and on!!
My ex-husband and myself along with our son were stationed on Kaneohe Bay Marine Corps Base from 2003-2007. The islands and the people are undoubtedly the most beautiful I’ve ever encountered. Genuine, good-hearted, family oriented, proud and special people are the Hawaiians, Polynesians, and Samoans. I agree that it is wrong for us to be occupying a land and a people. Give back what is rightfully theirs and stop using them for financial and military position.
The U.S. cannot “Give Back” what is not theirs. Hawaiian Lands were and are occupied by the U.S. by force. There was NEVER a Treaty signed by ANY Hawaiians, therefore, there cannot be Annexation, therefore, Hawaii CANNOT be a State of the United States of America. It doesn’t take a Rocket Scientist to figure out the simple legality and the truth.
@@anitamendez116 not sure if you read what I said. The last sentence says to give back what is rightfully theirs…meaning it was never theirs to begin with. The fact is, it was stolen and when something is stolen, it is right to give it back. Don’t try to come here and argue when I am not here as your enemy. The rocket scientist remark shows your contempt for what you think I am saying, but you’re incorrect.
@candiceknuth-winterfeldt2922 go float in the ocean all land was taken from someone at somepoint if yiu knew about Hawaiis history you will even see it there. Facts are it woulda been japanese or English if it was japanese there wouldn't have been a Hawaiian left today.
I think that this presentation, although important, left out some very important details to increase the validity of their claims. By the late 1800's, native Hawaians were no longer in the majority. In fact, there were more Japanese living on the island than any group. Also, the channel seems to ignore the fact that Queen Liliuokalani was trying to remove the established constituion of 1887 during the Bayonet Constitution which had no US participation. Moving back from a constitutional Monarchy to an effective full Monarchy. In fact, at that time, the monarchy, which represented a minority of the population would not allow Japanese and Chinese to vote (even those born in Hawaii). No side is exactly clean.
There is something you miss entirely. At the time *of* the overthrow of the Sovereign Nation of Hawai'i , Hawai'i was not, never was, and never was going to be Japan, or, China. It was (and actually is still) The *Kingdom* of *Hawai'i*
@@SunnyIlha Nope. If Haiwaii wasnt American then it would have been conquered and the Imperial Japanese would have massacred all the native peoples just like they did in Okinawa.
@@Tribuneoftheplebs wrong, Hawaii had long time treaties with Japan and Most of Europe Already. Guess who was the only country to break treaty? That's right, America.
I truly wish them luck. I don't see the military ever leaving or the corporate leaders giving up their investments. Still if they can get their sovereignty back that would be good, I just wonder how it will support itself and its people without US aid.
I think that is somewhat the issue- They don't get much of it now! The homeless population is Out of Control! Those who do work are but ONE Paycheck away from becoming Homeless, if not already.😂 EverybodyDon'tLiveInWaikiki👀
No the US won't give it up. Too much of a risk for our military and Hawaii. Other nations wouldn't hesitate to go to war for such a powerful military position. No we cannot afford to give it up.
@@honeybee2587also think about the time period when it was being eye balled by opposing powers. Japan, Russia, China, even Germany. Being occupied by the US was really the best case scenario. I doubt any other foreign power would treat them as kindly as the US did/does. I thunk some of their more militant minds hyper fixate on certain parts of history and ignore the potential. Even blatantly so.
Native Hawaiians are a small portion of Hawaii's population, 0.2% according to the Census or at most 21% if you count people with even a small percentage of NH blood. I believe they are only in the plurality on Molokai. It would be nice to see them get some sort of sovereign recognition, at least as much as Native Americans or Alaska Natives.
So It is done !! They have destroyed the whole community by a wepanized fire. I am have a very heavy heath about all who died in fife and for all lost of very Hawaii souls!!
Its crazy how the U.S government talks about Russia taking over Ukraine, when they did the same thing to Hawaii 100 years ago "let those without sin cast the first stone"
I think its because Russia under Putin is the only country to invade and annex another nations territory in the past 55+ years (3x now). Everyone used to colonize, even the Tahitians colonized Hawaii from the Native Hawaiians back in the 12th Century. But with the development of the UN, its emphasis on national sovereignty, and the anti-colonial movement of the 1960s; its not supposed to happen anymore.
My husband and I lived on Pearl Harbor. Hawaii is gorgeous but I couldn't get use to living on a rock no where to go I'm the even of a event as the Maui fire. Prayers for Maui.
the only problem with becoming a sovereign country is other countries will again steal the islands as it is of geographical interest for many reasons, but the main reason for military and commercial transport use. I am deeply heart broken for the people being robbed of its customs, heritage, and enforced change of language.
That's why they should actually be somewhat happy. Because they are of value, they are now part of the greatest empire in the history of planet Earth. Left for themselves, surely they would not prosper as much as they do. They just need to fight back to restore their tradition, to recover the entirety of their culture. That culture should be part of a bigger project like USA without having to sacrifice.
So if someone came in your home and told you what you could and could not do in your own home you would be "somewhat happy" and just accept it eh? The "greatest empire" had NO BUSINESS coming over to a sovereign nation and forcing "THEIR WAYS" on them. None. Just look how "they" gained control, BY FORCE. You seem to have that smug sense of entitlement attitude that the world hates about Americans. They took a vote WITH THEIR OWN PEOPLE AND THE VOTE WAS THAT MOST PEOPLE DID NOT WANT TO BE ANNEXED. Underhanded people did it anyway. "F" "just need to restore tradition", Hawaii BELONGS TO THE HAWAIIAN PEOPLE. The "greatest empire" should have HELPED THEM (via trade and commerce) NOT stolen THEIR lands. If you can't see this then YOU are part of the problem.
So Russia needs Crimea because it's strategically important to it's navy. Which is why Russia conquered it centuries ago. Now the US says you can't have it. You have to give it to this new country called Ukraine, that was part of Russia for over 1000 years. Yet the US will say it needs Hawaii because it's strategically important even though the US is a land of European transplants. While Hawaii is a Polynesian nation that has existed for over 1000 years. Funny how something is good when it benefits you but it's bad when it doesn't. Hypocrisy, double dealing, double standards and deceit are the tradition of the United States of America. It doesn't care for the human factor but for the survival of the power structure that feeds itself into continuity constantly.
I see you have been reading Putin's nationalist version of history, which has been rejected by historians as fabricated and fantasy. Actual, real history is pretty easy to come across so I suggest you give that a read. The area in question changed hands so many times over the centuries. Throughout, Ukraine always had a unique culture and language that they held onto while Russia/the USSR tried to outlaw and destroy their identity. Regarding Crimea, Russians made up 2% of the population when the Czar conquered the territory. But now after a century+ of ethnic cleansing/deportations the area is around 75% ethnic Russian. Also, Russia has numerous warm water ports on the Black Sea.
The problem is that there just aren’t enough of people qualified to be native Hawaiians left anymore to be able to have an independent nation of their own
I remember a show about stolen treasures and them being returned that my mother watched. One episode was about Hawaii. The weird part? I later met and married my husband who was born on Oahu and his mom’s side was native Hawaiian. He and I had many conversations about the abuses of the Kingdom of Hawaii. I explain to our daughter about her heritage on his side at age appropriate levels too.
Japan Annexed Taiwan 1895-1945 Annexed Korea 1910-1945 Occupied Vietnam 1940-1945 As a Colonialist Empire the United States annexed the Kingdom of Hawaii by force, colonizing it and then imposing by military force the US sovereignty over an independent state. Later the US waged another war to join the colonial powers, this time against the now weak and decaying Spanish Empire. Taking Puerto Rico, Guam, Philippines. -Cristian A. Rodriguez 🤗
@@condorX2 so, the Spanish are innocent? WoW! the only reason no one says anything about the Spanish or Portugal is because they can't pay anything. It is all about money to these people who claim something that did not happen to them but to people 100's of years ago. You wronged my Great, Great, Great, Great Great Grandfather so I need $100,000 for payment and I am happy. They only thing that will happen is they will by a new car and then the are still crying when the money is gone. Follow the money...............
@@condorX2Puerto Rico is a possession of the U.S. They voted not to become a state under the U.S. is my understanding. Don't know about Guam. Please do the homework regarding how Queen Liliuokalani was held at bay, under arms to sign the rights over to the U.S. She did so to prevent bloodshed. She was a believer in Christ Jesus. Jesus said, "Vengence is MINE, I will recompense" (repay one day). Meanwhile, life goes on. Aloha!
I have a great understanding of Hawaiian culture. With the deepest appreciation and respect for all those that participated in this documentary. Music and art are the glues that hold our world together. Rip 🙏 Israel Kamakakawiwo ole'. One of my favorite singers. History is most important for all of us to understand. I have tried and have been erased from my views and education on this. May this go through this time. Ua mau ke ea aina i ka pono. (The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. ) I love the Hawaiian Islands and have visited there and its people.
I remember quite a few years ago I watched a movie about Hawaii when the Hawaiian princess was forced to turn these great islands over to the United States. Does anyone know this movie, because I have only seen it once, and that was it. Hawaii became a US state August 21, 1959. Maui attacked August 8, 2023. Pondering certain questions, and I strongly believe that , yes, a land grab, and something more sinister. Gold watch over and bless the Hawaiian people, especially in Maul. Bring the TRUTH TO THE LIGHT !
@@emperorpalpatine7557according to who? Not to Hawaiians we didn't. Lol if someone told me "you're ameriKKKan; get over it" to my face, well, let's just say I hope you can fight well 🤷♂️. Remember, patriotism is love between oneself and one's nation, and you can't FORCE ANYONE to love anything or anyone they refuse to love. It's like the domestic violence perpetrator telling the victim "love me, or else". And the victim and perpetrator CANNOT be on equal standing as the victim will always crave their freedom but the perpetrator always the control/enslavement
@sovereignhawaiian I see ignorance is strength for you your entire population voted for statehood in 59 and Amekkan my family originated from Germany and Italy in the early 1900s you were conquered and you cannot survive on your own grow up
The Kingdom of Hawai'i was overthrown by groups opposed to the unilateral rewriting of the Kingdom's Constitution, including members of the Queen's court, native Islanders. The new document would have invested more land and power in the "Royal Family" at the expense of all Hawaiians. History is never as black and white as your silly program and headline imply.
You obviously do not understand at all whatsoever what the Sovereign Polynesian Culturally grounded Monarchy was. What reveals the fallacy of your comment is the use of " ("Royal Family") " in contempt of the Monarchy, while attempting to separate the Hawaiian People from their own Monarchy; their own Native Hawaiian *formalized* *modernized* *Alii* Your attempt to frame the Native Hawaiian Culture (which means their *People* ), as being something that has parts that can be "separated" between the People and their Monarchy (which happens to BE their People one and the same), fails miserably and is laughable. Yours is a western view and cannot be applied to the topic being discussed in this documentary posted. This is an alien concept to you. You are also likely *entirely* yourself misinformed and mislead. I had to bluntly put an end to your groping wishful try at incorrectly being information to readers of this commentary thread. It is disgusting and malicious. Since everything you've written is incorrect, inaccurate, and to be furthermore blunt, disrespectful to Hawai'i and nothing more than comedy to Hawai'i, Hawaiians, and Kama'Aina Local Islanders.
They have a vendetta against America and are just about always out to paint us in a negative light when in fact, of all the colonial “empires” out there.. we were by far the most tame and certainly nothing in comparison to their own.
@@darthsilversith667 There is no vendetta. You are imagining things. They are interested making right a wrong. They are interested in correcting something that was wrongdoing. There are complex issues regarding Indigenous Native People existing in their own World on their own Land that are also at hand being corrected.
@@darthsilversith667 It was not tame. *AT* *all* The Hawaiian People nearly vanished from *genocide* (Physically). The Hawaiian Culture was nearly *extinguished* There was in fact, a *Holocaust* between the Great Mahele to the current day condition *now* There are, in physical fact, very very *few* ancestrally 100% Hawaiians left today. Approximately 99% of Ancestrally descendant (Original, *Aboriginal* Polynesian ancestry) Hawaiians today are of *mixed* *ancestry*
@@SunnyIlha I never said we were innocent.. but what we have done in comparison to all the other “imperial/colonial” powers.. is positively tame in comparison, especially the country in which Timeline comes from. Yet, they and everyone else only seems interested in talking about what we did the most. Yet, they’re always coming to us with their hats in their hands looking for handouts and to be saved like everyone else.
I'm happy to see it wasn't just the British that invaded lands that didn't belong to them My mother was taken from her land, family and she was SUPPOSED to be educated. She died NOT even being able to spell her own name so the English take over of my country Australia did her no favours They split up families, tribes and customs. My mother left school and 11 to raise her two younger brothers... My mother died never seeing her own mother and other family members ever again. Saying sorry just doesn't cut it.
@@joelbyrnes9710 well the proof is in the action. America took over Hawaii not Britain. They had plenty of opportunities. Do you even know about the Paulet Affair?
As a Puerto Rican we been struggling for independence from the United States for ma many years . Hawaii was forced to become a 50th state and was on its own before the U.S. arrived. Puerto Rico and Hawaii deserved to be an independent nation.
That isn't beneficial to anyone involved, Hawaii US relationship is symbiotic, really think about what would happen is Hawaii cut all ties with the US.
@@maxeddis1138symbolic? in what way? for Hawaiians that symbol is different to maybe Americans. for us, it's a constant reminder of their betrayal, the death of our queen and the overthrow of our home. a reminder that if American could choose to with no backlash, they would do it again. they would, with no regrets, murder our people and ban our culture that isn't used for tourists. at MOST it's just America showing their military power. that's the only possible symbolism I can think of.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but the Kingdom was established by a war of aggression. Kamehameha gathered his army on the west shore of Hawaii Island and launched across the water to invade Maui. We once sentenced Hermann Goering to death for exactly that. Before this war ended, there was the horrific battle of the cliffs on Oahu. Kauai "peacefully" chose to join the Kingdom, because, what choice did they have? This is why the Kingdom, and then the Republic, and then the Territory, and finally the State, is named after this one Island. Not the cleanest record to have when complaining about the Annexation. At least the US Armed Forces didn't shove a bunch of people off of a cliff. Here is a thought experiment. The Kingdom was overthrown at the end of the 19th Century. It's been over 120 years. We undo statehood, grant independence like we did the Philippines, and re-establish the Kingdom. Who gets to become citizens of this re-established Kingdom? Everyone presently living there? Will they continue to enjoy freedom of religion and speech? Equal protection of the laws? How about property rights? Due process rights? Jury trials? I won't even mention that one of the alternatives was to let the Japanese take over the Pacific. We know how respectful they were of the rights and independence of the territories they conquered before the US covered the ocean with steel and filled the skies with aluminum. How would Hawaii fare as a prefecture of Japan?
This story can be summed succinctly as follows: Part 1: For centuries, the individual islands in the Hawaiian island archipelago are each ruled by ambitious chiefs who seek to conquer the other islands in the chain, but are unable to do so due to their lack of sophisticated (i.e., Western) military technology. (Note: This is referred to as a state of endemic warfare, where all are constantly battling with each other). Part 2: In the closing decades of the 18th century, one Hawaiian chief -- Kamehameha -- comes into possession of not only Western style military hardware but two English castaways who know how to maintain it and strategically use it to its greatest effect. Part 3: Kamehameha then conquers all of the other islands in the Hawaiian archipelago save one -- that of Kaua'i -- through military conquest, telling other Hawaiians to either submit to his rule or die. Some chiefs die fighting and some commit suicide rather than submit to another tyrant. (Note: This is what is referred to by many as "the unification of the Hawaiian kingdom by the Great Kamehameha I"). Part 4: In an effort to modernize their country, the Hawaiian monarchy line established by Kamehameha lays the foundation for its own destruction. Part 5: In 1893, without even putting up so much as a fight, the Hawaiian kingdom is overthrown by insurrectionists who are operating without the actual backing of the US government (but using US military forces at their immediate disposal) and using the same basic technology that was used to establish the Hawaiian kingdom in the first place. Part 6: After five years of debate over whether or not to annex Hawaii, as a result of the Spanish American War and the need to annex Hawaii as a stepping stone to the Philippines, Hawaii is finally annexed by the US in the year 1898. Part 7: Starting in the 1970's, Hawaiian activists begin clamoring for sovereignty by totally ignoring and/or distorting their own historical past, making it out to be something it really wasn't (e.g., claiming that Kamehameha "unified Hawaii" but ignoring just exactly how he accomplished that feat, or claiming that the US overthrew the Hawaiian monarch when it really didn't, and only rogue elements within it were involved in that initial overthrow) and refusing to recognize the fact that Hawaii will never become and independent and sovereign nation just so they can continue in their feelings of righteous anger.
You are so right. The a U.S. has saved the Hawaiian people from a lot of problems they still aren't ready for in this sophisticated and evil designing world.
What percentage of Hawaiians voted for statehood? 93% Hawaii-a U.S. territory since 1898-became the 50th state in August, 1959, following a referendum in Hawaii in which more than 93% of the voters approved the proposition that the territory should be admitted as a state.
Your statement fails at the outset instantly. Since the Monarchy Kingdom *preceded* Statehood. The existing Monarchy Kingdom not only preceded Statehood, it *supercedes* Statehood. It has been admitted as having been wrongful, illegally committed act by the The United States (Recognized *by* the United States as illegal wrongful act *committed* by the United States).
Very true, Hawaii was not in anyway stolen. The people wanted to be free of a evil monarch and chose to become Americans of there own free will. This whole evil video is filled with nothing but outright lies.
@@robertsears8323 You are in denial. It clearly has struck a nerve. The information this documentary has accurately and correctly presented and revealed. It *hurts* Does it not.
Well by golly that puts a whole new spin on this! So President Clinton committed treason against the sovereign people of the sovereign State of Hawaii by apologizing for the relatively nonviolent overthrow of a monarch. If supreme executive power derives from a mandate of the masses, that vote in 1959 has far more authority than Kamehameha's mandate of a bunch of soldiers using guns, weapons and force. I am sick and tired of anti-American liberals apologizing for everything the United States has done since 1776! Fun fact: It was ILLEGAL to worship Madame Pele during the Kingdom. It became constitutionally protected to worship Pele when the Territory was annexed.
So am I allowed to assume that the genocide of my indigenous people of the main land had to die so the abomination of our nation could find a paradise that was stolen from the indigenous people? Sounds familiar []
Also native Americans had the iron Confederate group, which Cree, Blackfoot and a 3rd native tribe made there own coalition, also there are many more groups that but differences aside to fight french, English, I'm Acadian, my people are all but mostly gone, less then 500 of us world Wide we had an island off nova Scotia called Accadia but we were defeated and ran down to Louisiana, starting Cajun french, only handful families still live down south most in Southern Ontario now
Much Respect, I am glad I stumbled across this insert. There is a lot to learn. I am also a decedent of a lost Kingdom.I am currently in South Africa🇿🇦 west of Johannesburg in Roodepoort. Long Live Hawaii Kingdom!!! Yours has risen like a beautiful Phoenix🌈
This documentary is absolutely subjective in its presentation. First, the Hawaiin Kingdom was absolutely NOT innocent of its past either, just look up Kamehameha's record as a start. Secondly, by what margin was Statehood approved in the referendum? It was a resounding and overwhelming YEA vote. No, I as an American do not have the slightest remorse and neither will I be expected to- especially since I had nothing to do with the annexation. In fact, I'm willing to bet anyone who argues the points that Hawaii never granted free speech, religion, press, the right the trial by jury, right to keep and bear arms. They're still actively attacking the latter on a constant basis. So no, I don't think I do care about what the loud minority thinks.
As sad as this story is ,Hawaiians should consider themselves lucky that America governs them and not Japan or China or even Russia, because as you well know these peoples would have annihilated all Natives as inferiors long time ago . Damn the Military employ’s over 110,000 locals in Hawaii, most US states would bend over backwards for that privilege
This video has both incorrect and missing info concerning the Petitions against Annexation and the Annexation itself. At time 11:25, the narrator said the petition had failed. This is false! The petition had succeeded not only once, but 3 times (missing info). The US could not Annex Hawaii via a Treaty because it could not get enough votes (missing info). There is no Treaty of Annexation between the US and the Hawaiian Kingdom (missing info). Therefore, the US did not Annex Hawaii (missing info). But the narrator said at 11:48 the Hawaiian Kingdom was Annexed (incorrect info). What this video failed to explain was how did the US "Annex" the Hawaiian Kingdom if there was no Treaty of Annexation (missing info). Since the US could not get the acquired votes for annexation, they decided to pass a law, a US law to annex a foreign country (missing info). As some of you may know, US laws do not extend beyond the boundaries of the US. US laws are not effective in Japan, France, Belgium, Spain, or any other foreign country, including the Hawaiian Kingdom. This is the most important part of this video and for public awareness and knowledge and they completely left that info out. Auwe!
The problem with independence, is that no small country can survive w/out the military power of the large countries. So, do u want Russia, China, or the U.S. to be ur security? U should still be able to practice ur culture, language, etc ur state wants but u should ensure ppl r at least bilingual so that more ppl can communicate. Honestly, I think we should have chosen 1 language long ago. I don’t hold on to the past. I’m part Native American but I’m not interested in living on the reservation, speaking the language my ppl spoke long ago, or anything else. We, the ppl alive today, in my community, in my state have created a different but fine culture, language, etc. I realize there were a lot of wrongs in the past but it’s time to get over that. If we all tried to go back to some time in the past, mind u, many ppl lived in all the lands we live on today, we would cause destabilization of the entire country, what date do we stop? Do we go back to 1900, 1800, 79 ad and who gets to decide? Going back would look like Ukraine. None of us should be going back. The past is over and most ppl alive today never lived in that world. Stop wasting time, energy, and money trying to go back in time when the story sounds more beneficial for u or me. Instead, spend time on making the future great!
The flicker effect used during the scenes that show old photos is overdone. I couldn’t watch those scenes because it was like a strobe. This information could’ve (and should’ve) been presented without unnecessary editing effects.
“There’ll be no more talk of sovereignty and independence from our pacific theater naval equipment storage unit! time for a good old fashioned annexa- uh… statehood” -Murca, on one of the few times they didn’t care a place was full of brown people.
Well Japanese occupation wasn't so nice, from what I hear. The native people of Guam, Micronesia, Polynesia, New Guinea, the Philipines, China, Korea, etc, etc, etc. sure didn't like the alternative. If the Hawaii was independent the US would be no moral, legal, or international obligation to liberate native Hawaiians, or any of the 7 major islands in their archepeligo. If the US Pacific fleet is stationed in San Diego, San Francisco, or even Midway, it's possible the Japanese might invade Hawaii, & it's other major targets like Malaysia, Indonesia {for oil}, Hong Kong, maybe the Philipines, & never declare
@@kellyowens1868…Japan has not had an equip fighting Military since The U.S. dropped the Atomic Bomb that ended WWII. You may want to watch factual and legal Presentations on RUclips given by Keanu Sai who is a Doctor of Political Science. He and The Regency of The Hawaiian Kingdom have been collecting legal documents from the United States Archives and the Hawaiian Archives for the last 20 years, proving the illegal take over of Hawaii, A Sovereign Nation.
Great idea!!!The Pequot Museum Connecticut USA has a poly resin replica of a long boat that I would really love to see a working replica of one day too.
On the lighter side of humor, Gandalf would've been quite teed off about those 13 crooks and would have set things straight right away ....... Had been around then......
@@ritemolawbks8012 No; I didn't mean to be misinterpreted. I referred to the Character Gandalf. He, Gandalf the Wise, (movie character), would not have approved of those behind the overthrow of the Sovereign Nation being discussed. He surely would have turned them permanently into stone.
Not that I am particularly pro-US but this channel has played host to some very questionably anti-US documentaries. So much so that Im beginning to feel like im watching propaganda rather than documentaries.
Not saying this channel can't be propaganda, since I haven't watched it enough to know, but what I have done a lot is read history. And when you read history of the past few hundred years, the US often comes off as the main villain of the story. History being seemingly anti-US tells more about the US than it does of those that recorded the history. Also worth noting, that propaganda isn't necessarily false, and not everything that goes against one's narrative is propaganda. Sometimes the truth takes sides, whether we like it or not.
@@agnz you can go to wikipedia and very quickly find out that this documentary left out quite a few details in the annexation of hawaii. Its a shame really because it is a really interesting part of history. Leaving things out to make the US worse shows bias.
Hawaii has benefitted far more being apart of the United States than it would have trying to be its own kingdom. It lacks major exports and aside from tourism can not support itself independently.
Please Americans are no saviors we were independent before you we will be independent after you. Question is when will America be free of its dependency on the IMF and the federal reserve...what about the District of Columbia and the CORPORATION OF AMERICA? A true Patriot should be up in arms with your government.
What's worse, is that same imbecile goes on to claim that PACOM maintains ICBM silo sites on the Islands which, we all know to be a flat out lie because, as much as I hate that they've ever even done this, the DoD and U.S. Army Corps of Engineers actually declassified the locations of all hardened Minuteman III locations, and all of them are situated throughout North America. Anything outside of CONUS is the inherent responsibility of the U.S. Navy's SSBN class submarines which, may at times, port in Hawai'i for refit or resupply, but are certainly never "stationed" there either.
@@karlhenderson2289 you believe the government? Like the HSA actually demobbed the storage facility of U.S. Citizens emails & telephone conversations; Or that Hoover's "Blackmail" files were destroyed. No government does these things.
I really hope the Hawaiian government has a major ace up their sleeve because historically, "The US military can leave and go back to North America" hasn't really worked out all that well in most places.
Before United States annexed the independent country of Hawaii,it already annexed the independent country of Texas. According to history,United States annexed two independent countries.
We the knowledgeable all know that a giant chunk of Mexico was bit off. Academia writes many books about this topic and History. It is one of the aspects of American History that reveals why that specific exact region area has peculiar unique conundrums and dilemma that is actually still widely misunderstood till today. That the United States essential naturalized into Citizenry hundreds of thousands of Mexican Citizens when it violated Mexico's border by invasion and annexation of that northernmost area of Mexico. It's complicated, complex and really still a touchy subject, since the Mexicans who were already there *never* *left* !
Oh man, what a closing scene in this video- a little Hawaiian boy playing in the sand and the backdrop a nuclear submarine passing. One of my worries that I sometimes think and fret about as my grandchildren and I are living at ground zero 6 miles from Pearl Harbor and Hickman Air Force Base. In war we would be vaporized. He Hawaii makou (we are Hawaiian). Pono’ole ( this is not right) as Hawaii was once a neutral country where ships would have to disarm prior to entering Honolulu or Lahaina Harbor. GOD help us all. 🌺
Then how about the monarch? Will they reinstated the Kamehameha family as the rightful heir to Kingdom of Hawaii? There's no mention about reinstating the Kamehamehas even once in this documentary. Remember that they were overthrown and forced to abdicated. So it just make sense these people to do the right to reinstated the Kamehamehas back to their throne. Failed to do so only shows that these people are hypocrites as the US.
Interestingly, Hawai'i would have still been an Allied Nation of Friendly Nations with the United States, and, economically, directly tied with the United States. This is an absolute certainty. Again, Hawai'i Islanders would have still contributed, in exact same participation to the Allied Cause in World War Two as Soldier Allied Combatants. And throughout the Cold War, equally as well, Hawai'i would have been (obviously) a Democracy. It would have been a member Nation of Global Democracies (Itself already since Kamehameha I, a developing evolving Plural Society). This is of course stating the obvious and a bygone conclusion.
@@johnlennox-pe2nq Statehood in 1959 (much later occurring in Hawai'i' History) was not an 'extension' of the original initial wrongdoing committed against the Monarchy (Queen Liliuokalani at the time of the wrongdoing). This is a complicated complex dilemma. Ultimately, nevertheless, sooner or later, the problem of the illegal overthrow of the Hawaii Monarchy (The Sovereign Nation) was destined to be revealed and would come under scrutiny to be resolved for what it was ( *and* *is* to this very hour of this day we comment in reply to each other in this commentary thread). Essentially, the *crime* was going to face it's destiny and fate. It is an extremely complicated matter that is working itself out now.
Dear Brothers + Sisters about Maui: Pearl Harbor... We knew it was an enemy! This is so much WORSE as was & continues to be done by many insiders: Husband of the 1st Lady of Hawai'i. She knows he's stabbing her & her people in the back? Reminds us of enemies of our Queen Lili'uokalani. We're Prayerfully together in this ❤️
There is a reason why to US won't give up such a strategic place and military zone. We cannot afford to give up such a key position for our military. If the US leaves who is to say China or Russia or some other nation won't take steps to move right in. It would be all out war to take that land for their military. That would give them military power in a key position. No not happening.
This is a false opinion. Hawaiians did not vote for Statehood. Look up the voter census of Hawaii's Statehood and you would see many Americans living in Hawaii voted for Statehood. Additionally, the voting was done illegally since while under Occupation, all legislation acts of the occupied comes to halt. Additionally, the Occupier cannot force the occupied to swear oath of allegiance to the occupying force. (Field Manual FM27-10 - Law of Land Warfare, Chapter 6, section 351 - 359)
I think it's time we send the marine activist to the island of Cuba to bring his ideas of fairness and equity there. I'm all for cutting all the checks to Hawaii. Want to see what Hawaii looks like ten years after their emancipation? Go to any South Pacific island and get your peace and quiet there.
If it wasn't for the US, Hawaii would be a backwards third world country barely capable of feeding itself. Nice location, completely dependent on the outside world.
They did the same to the indigenous natives of the U S. Such entitlement and ownership of native land...North America. There are documents that states the Hawaiians could get their islands back and is in hiding. The US will never give back the islands...military hold and is seen as an advantage. The Hawaiians were so advanced that the majority if her people could speak 2 or 3 languages including Hawaiian. They also had a railway b4 the west, newspapers and electricity much sooner than the US did east of the Mississippi. I lived in Hawaii and took Hawaiian studies and was taught very many traditions and customs. How the land is respected and the sustainable actions if the Hawaiians. I have seen how sacred lands were taken illegally and misused. I worked with DNLR in accessing lands that are truely Hawaiian sacred spots that have been stolen by greedy commercialism. The Hawaiians are very much like the natives of America and actually had ocean crossings and knew the currents and the stars in navigating across the Pacific to the mainland of America centuries. The annexation was purposely to "christianize" the natives. The white man did the same to Native Americans. Attempting to assimilate by destroying cultural and spiritual ceremonies and traditions; in example the dancing of hula which is so much than dance. Its storytelling and keeping the history of Hawaiians alive. Ollelo. Mahalo nui loa. 🙏🤙
As a kid I felt the Philippines should have been kept as a state of the US due to the corruption issues that have plagued the Philippines since its independence. But I know it’s more complicated. The people of the Philippines were tired of being enslaved by Spain for 300 years.
I agree with you. We should have held on to it and developed it even if only for military purposes. I believe that had we done that Japan, China and North Korea would not be where they are now. I also believe that the Korean and Vietnam wars may not have happened and WW2 would have been limited to Europe. JMO.
The history of the status of US Phillippine relations seems confusing....is it a state? Is it a US territory? Is it a protectorate? Is is, God forbid, a colony...? Seems the archipelago needs unity, finances, and direction...time to become an Asian Tiger of a Nation and Republic....get off your knees,,arise!
Or Japan. They should thank God they are under the protection of the U.S military. People commenting on this for sentimental reasons need to study history and the geography before saying foolish things. To think secession would solve there problems is insane.
The reason the sugar interests felt threatened and even more so keen to overthrow the monarchy had more to do with tariffs placed on Hawaiian sugar by the US Hawaiis primary trading partner at the time. With the fear of a constitution that basically restored absolute status to the Monarchy these businessmen decided to act thus with minister Stevens landed a troupe of us naval officers who were anchored in Honolulu harbor at the time to “protect American lives.” The Kingdom which had already been stripped of its own military and navy asside from the Royal guard and police department, since the rule of King Lunalilo, was basically powerless against the armed US officers. Liliuokalani to avoid any blood shed stood down from her throne with the thought that the US government would recognize the treason of these men and reinstate her. For a 51 min video this largely ignores the socio-political state of Hawaii at the time a nation with ambitions to be equal to the nations of the world, a highly educated yet dwindling population due to disease being replaced by immigrants…on top of a business elite that would do anything to secure there profits backed by the powerful US, looming on her doorstep a young nation herself eager for control and expansion having its own interests in Hawaiis strategic position in the Pacific (talks for Pearl Harbor beginning as far back as the reign of King Lunalilo possibly Kamehameh V)
That was then WW2 came about and Hawaii would if been invaded by Japan. They destroyed the monarchy of China Manchuria and Korea do you think they would of been more kind to Hawaii. The US is the strongest nation in the world and it has protected Hawaii. American citizenship is very valuable.
Pearl Harbor was being used as a US military port before the monarchy was overthrown. The US would have had a military presence in Hawaiʻi either way. Hawaiʻi would not ahve just been "invaded by Japan."@@SandraHernandez-mz7um
I agree they would if been invaded and taken over fully by the Japanese. If the allies didn’t win the WW2 it would be far worse for the native Hawaiians.
I am an Anglo who lived in Hawaii for 5 years from 1968-1973. I have first hand experience with racial tension in Hawaii during that time and from subsequent visits. Whites are resented to varying degrees among the population of Native Hawaiians. Some of that antipathy is justifiable considering the record of shameless discrimination and repression directed at the indigenous population by mainly Anglo American settlers and business interests. However, it's important to know that relatively few 100% blood Hawaiians exist today (5,000?) A much larger population of mixed-race Hawaiian/Japanese, Chinese, Filipino, Anglo et al., people inhabit the state. In fact, Hawaii has one of the most ethnically diverse populations in the world. That's one of its strengths and what makes it such an interesting place to visit or live. Do the Hawaiian people (based on some nebulously quantifiable blood line) deserve land or other reparations based on their past and present treatment? Probably so. But implementing such redress will involve the unraveling of a legal and ethical gordian knot.
Then maybe mericans shouldn't hint at or request or demand that other countries do the same, if they have dirty laundry themselves?, they should keep their noses out of other nations business, it can sometimes bring the spotlight on your own toes....
It was deliberately glossed over here, but a majority of the people involved in overthrowing the Hawaiian monarchy were HAWAIIAN CITIZENS. Their ethnicity is irrelevant unless you believe that being born the "wrong ethnicity" makes you a second-class citizen.
I think there's an unfortunate problem with reinstating Hawaii's sovereignty. That being the kingdom would have to defend itself from invasion. How would they do it?
I don't think this would even be an issue. While I wish the (Native) Hawaiians good luck in finding their own culture again, and recovering property, I very much doubt that the U.S. would part with one of its states. Also, even if there was a referendum, no chance that the large Asian and Caucasian population majority would vote for independence from the U.S.
@@martinmuehlner1607 I agree it probably won't be an issue. I was looking at it hypothetically. If the US were to abandon Hawaii governmentally speaking it wouldn't be far fetched for some other nation to want to step in and gain control. It is some pretty prime real-estate. But I digress because I know too little about it
Hawaiian natives are the perfect examples of why Puerto Rico should not be fooled or forced into statehood.. USA will avoid having to apologize and we will not have more to regret.
It's not just a case of American annexation or Hawaiian Independence. It's more a question of who do you want annexing you - Japan, China, England, Russia, France or America? And if America were to leave, the fight among them for possession of Hawaii would resume. And as your eyes can not avoid the horrors of Russian annexation of their neighbor, good luck getting any kind of letter of apology or reclamation of land out of them. About the time the British landed, they were still involved in the trans Atlantic slave trade, in large part for slaves to worn their sugar plantations in the Caribbean. One wonders if they had designs to put native Hawaiians to the same task.
They're only discussing historical fact. Hawaii is officially a US state and couldn't leave the union even if 100% of the population demanded it. Everyone there was born America, and that won't change just by accurately telling the history of Hawaii.
@ Unoseth You argument is irrelevant and moot. Since the Hawaiian Kingdom (Governmentally structured as a Monarchy *politically* ; not only symbolically) was in Friendly Nations Relationship with the United States, (as strong as Great Britain was, and is as the United Kingdom). Not only this, the Hawaiian Kingdom was *equally* *tied* to the United States of America *ECONOMICALLY*
@@SunnyIlha Talk about "moot". Friendly Nations" has no legal meaning. Neither the US or UK had any obligation to defend Hawaii's independence. And the UK was too far away to matter. And economic tes are only possible with militarily backed presence. Without the US Pacific fleet, Japan would have just docked in Pearl Harbor and deported all the native and non native population to some Southeast Asian s'hole or just do as they did to Nanking.
@@samshepperrd Your nonsense is irritating. The Navy Pacific Fleet of The United States of America Navy was there. Your understanding of History is also poor.
I am really sorry for what our united states done to your home they had no right to do this and you should have your land back I think most of the Ameecian people don't know this I will share it so others will know this see they didn't teach us in school that your land was ripped from you all .I pray you get it all back completely.Bless you all.
i had no idea hawaii was its own independent nation i grew up in the mainland states ive never been to hawaii but ive always wondered why they were a part of the union. i support hawaii independence however no US presence there would invite russia or china to try to invade hawaii as well....those islands would make great missile bases.
Oh really how many other countries have Russia or China taken over and put military bases there????? Exactly! That's a stupid argument, but now on thr other hand how many U.S military bases are there around the globe? There's roughly 850 in 90 different countries! There's only one expansionist country and that's the United States 😠
They're on a different continent from North America. Can you think of any reason why China or Russia would be expanding, seizing islands, and trying to surround the US mainland with missiles? They've used border disputes as pretext to invade, but you're assuming they would use the same containment strategy as the US.
@@Justiceisforeveryone This was an alternative timeline. The Cuban Missile Crisis was connected to the Cold War, US containment policy, and NATO nuclear warheads in Turkey and Italy pointing at the Soviet Union.
So you want to give up statehood… cut ties with US…. Lose all benefits that come with being a state… So do you find a descendant of the last “king” of Hawaii and reinstate them as a monarchy? Setup some form of democracy? I’m genuinely curious how you would “rule” yourselves. How do you pay for things like roads, water treatment, electricity, airports, harbors/docks, schools, police, military? I guess there would be some form of taxation… but if you kick out all non-native Hawaiians, would the population be sufficient to pay for everything needed? How do you choose who stays and who leaves? Like how much “native blood” would someone have to have to stay? Does the newly formed Hawaiin government or reinstated monarchy reimburse anyone who owns property on the island? Or are you just going to take all those homes as some kind of compensation? Do you kick out all US owned businesses? I would assume so, so where do you get the capital to start all those new businesses ran by locals? And when some other country decides they want your land, who stops them? Do you expect the Us to step in to protect you?
Hawaii has a great culture and history. But the U.S. isn't going to give it back. And you're choice is U.S. or CHINA. And you may not have all the same rights as you do under the U.S. and the grass isn't always greener. Just look at what happened to the PHILIPPINES when the U.S. gave them Independence. Think about that.
Why would the Queen of Hawaii want to keep their citizens poor and in dirt floor huts ? The people of Hawaii look healthy and go to great Universities now and have self determination . Only wish the people of the middle east would understand how great their life could be !!
Because of the Americans, the land price is going up, and the native people are being priced out. If it continues, there will be no natives left. Be like the British give back there land.
Hawaiians are proud American patriots. In the unlikely event that Hawaii was allowed to secede from the union, the military bases would remain regardless. ❤ to my Hawaiian brothers and sisters from CA
@@bruhinthewild Every person in North, Central, & South America are American. So it depends on whether the Hawaiian islands are considered part of the Americas or Oceania.
@@notorioustori Nope! I think that every foreign national living in the Americas from Alaska to Chile would have a problem with your analysis.And may God help you if you call a Canadian an American.
If u look at Hawaiian traditional dress and headdress as well as its legends about ancient white gods; it’s pretty obvious that the Greeks had been in Hawaii. Even Greek legends talk about it
Oh can’t wait to visit in December I’ll be bringing my Native American Wife to show her how different her reservation is compared to how you people are treated
I don’t know why U.S wants this place! I went there for 5 days and was so ready to leave after the second day!!! When going to Puerto Rico you still feel like your in a 3rd world! But when i was in Hawaii i just didn’t feel the Hawaiian culture all around… it’s so American/ Vietnamese
I'm 33 years old and I only just learned about this part of Hawaii's history last week. Not even the tiniest whiff of it in school or in the media. America's education system has failed us on so many levels
That was the intention of the education system. To control narratives and indoctrinate society. Control. Control. Control.
No, you're just confused about the purpose of the education system. It is working as intended.
no one wants to show their dirty laundry
The rest of America is no different than the rest of the country. It's all stolen
If you went to school in HI, you would have been taught it.
"We are not homeless but houseless"
That lady is very wise and inspiring. She really loves her homeland. I hope that by now she is living in a house.
Well, she was... but then it started with the green space lasers, and now?
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@@AutitsicDysexlia shame on you haole. we already know what happened, stop with the conspiracies already
@a.healani9296 yessah. from the mountain to the ocean from the windward to the leeward side, on the island, we do it island style.....
@@808-PFH-Kanaka-Rightswas the racism necessary?
@@joelbyrnes9710 haole means foreigner...not white
yes, some take it that way, but it doesn't mean white. in the old days, all who were from another place were called haole, and it was used as a normal word. after the illegal overthrow though that changed because of who specifically did what they did and who came after them.
As a youngster we visited Hawaii and I discovered one day walking to a local store, they were not fond of Americans. I wondered why Americans would want to live there. Visiting was fine but why live where you were not wanted? Later in my early 20's a couple moved there and she reported the same thing after 13 years of going to their local little store, the people there did not care for her and did not know her name. They moved soon after that back to the states. I learned how the US captured their beloved queen - not in school but through friends.
As a Hawaiian, I don't condone those actions and I'm really sorry that happened to you and you're friend. Not all of us see things that way.
It’s not your fault.
The streets in Hawaii are named after the men who locked up our Queen and stole our islands while killing our people!
DILLINGHAM, DOLE, THURSTON on and on!!
It's still not the way to treat individuals. The government did this not the people that weren't shown aloha.
My deepest respect is for the indigenous people of Hawaii, love from outback Australia and the wirami people of new south Wales God bless and cheers .
Like the homie said they’re not indigenous they’re nationals
🙏🏽cheers bra
calling us the nationalists is kinda ironic dont you think
My ex-husband and myself along with our son were stationed on Kaneohe Bay Marine Corps Base from 2003-2007. The islands and the people are undoubtedly the most beautiful I’ve ever encountered. Genuine, good-hearted, family oriented, proud and special people are the Hawaiians, Polynesians, and Samoans. I agree that it is wrong for us to be occupying a land and a people. Give back what is rightfully theirs and stop using them for financial and military position.
The U.S. cannot “Give Back” what is not theirs. Hawaiian Lands were and are occupied by the U.S. by force. There was NEVER a Treaty signed by ANY Hawaiians, therefore, there cannot be Annexation, therefore, Hawaii CANNOT be a State of the United States of America. It doesn’t take a Rocket Scientist to figure out the simple legality and the truth.
@@anitamendez116 not sure if you read what I said. The last sentence says to give back what is rightfully theirs…meaning it was never theirs to begin with. The fact is, it was stolen and when something is stolen, it is right to give it back. Don’t try to come here and argue when I am not here as your enemy. The rocket scientist remark shows your contempt for what you think I am saying, but you’re incorrect.
@candiceknuth-winterfeldt2922 go float in the ocean all land was taken from someone at somepoint if yiu knew about Hawaiis history you will even see it there. Facts are it woulda been japanese or English if it was japanese there wouldn't have been a Hawaiian left today.
@@candiceknuth-winterfeldt2922 hawai'i belongs to the people of hawai'i, the kanaka maoli, we weere here before any of you. your claim is pointless.
I think a few things from this convo were deleted wern't they :/
Always remember people act nice to get what they want! Once they get what they want their true selves come out.
I think that this presentation, although important, left out some very important details to increase the validity of their claims. By the late 1800's, native Hawaians were no longer in the majority. In fact, there were more Japanese living on the island than any group. Also, the channel seems to ignore the fact that Queen Liliuokalani was trying to remove the established constituion of 1887 during the Bayonet Constitution which had no US participation. Moving back from a constitutional Monarchy to an effective full Monarchy. In fact, at that time, the monarchy, which represented a minority of the population would not allow Japanese and Chinese to vote (even those born in Hawaii). No side is exactly clean.
There is something you miss entirely.
At the time *of* the overthrow of the Sovereign Nation of Hawai'i ,
Hawai'i was not, never was, and never was going to be Japan, or, China.
It was (and actually is still)
The *Kingdom* of *Hawai'i*
@@SunnyIlha exactly
If Hawaiians wanted others to not b a part of d islands, then they had d full right to make it happen. Giving rights to Japanese/Chinese was on them.
@@SunnyIlha Nope. If Haiwaii wasnt American then it would have been conquered and the Imperial Japanese would have massacred all the native peoples just like they did in Okinawa.
@@Tribuneoftheplebs wrong, Hawaii had long time treaties with Japan and Most of Europe Already. Guess who was the only country to break treaty? That's right, America.
I truly wish them luck. I don't see the military ever leaving or the corporate leaders giving up their investments. Still if they can get their sovereignty back that would be good, I just wonder how it will support itself and its people without US aid.
I think that is somewhat the issue- They don't get much of it now!
The homeless population is Out of Control!
Those who do work are but ONE Paycheck away from becoming Homeless, if not already.😂
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No the US won't give it up. Too much of a risk for our military and Hawaii. Other nations wouldn't hesitate to go to war for such a powerful military position. No we cannot afford to give it up.
@@honeybee2587also think about the time period when it was being eye balled by opposing powers. Japan, Russia, China, even Germany. Being occupied by the US was really the best case scenario. I doubt any other foreign power would treat them as kindly as the US did/does.
I thunk some of their more militant minds hyper fixate on certain parts of history and ignore the potential. Even blatantly so.
Native Hawaiians are a small portion of Hawaii's population, 0.2% according to the Census or at most 21% if you count people with even a small percentage of NH blood. I believe they are only in the plurality on Molokai. It would be nice to see them get some sort of sovereign recognition, at least as much as Native Americans or Alaska Natives.
So It is done !! They have destroyed the whole community by a wepanized fire. I am have a very heavy heath about all who died in fife and for all lost of very Hawaii souls!!
Its crazy how the U.S government talks about Russia taking over Ukraine, when they did the same thing to Hawaii 100 years ago "let those without sin cast the first stone"
It's geopolitics. Everything is contradictory
Ukranians are white
And save the Jews
I think its because Russia under Putin is the only country to invade and annex another nations territory in the past 55+ years (3x now). Everyone used to colonize, even the Tahitians colonized Hawaii from the Native Hawaiians back in the 12th Century. But with the development of the UN, its emphasis on national sovereignty, and the anti-colonial movement of the 1960s; its not supposed to happen anymore.
My husband and I lived on Pearl Harbor. Hawaii is gorgeous but I couldn't get use to living on a rock no where to go I'm the even of a event as the Maui fire. Prayers for Maui.
too bad for the Native that the rest of you haoles didnt feel the same...
the only problem with becoming a sovereign country is other countries will again steal the islands as it is of geographical interest for many reasons, but the main reason for military and commercial transport use. I am deeply heart broken for the people being robbed of its customs, heritage, and enforced change of language.
True words!!!!!!!
That's why they should actually be somewhat happy. Because they are of value, they are now part of the greatest empire in the history of planet Earth. Left for themselves, surely they would not prosper as much as they do. They just need to fight back to restore their tradition, to recover the entirety of their culture. That culture should be part of a bigger project like USA without having to sacrifice.
So if someone came in your home and told you what you could and could not do in your own home you would be "somewhat happy" and just accept it eh? The "greatest empire" had NO BUSINESS coming over to a sovereign nation and forcing "THEIR WAYS" on them. None. Just look how "they" gained control, BY FORCE. You seem to have that smug sense of entitlement attitude that the world hates about Americans. They took a vote WITH THEIR OWN PEOPLE AND THE VOTE WAS THAT MOST PEOPLE DID NOT WANT TO BE ANNEXED. Underhanded people did it anyway. "F" "just need to restore tradition", Hawaii BELONGS TO THE HAWAIIAN PEOPLE. The "greatest empire" should have HELPED THEM (via trade and commerce) NOT stolen THEIR lands. If you can't see this then YOU are part of the problem.
So Russia needs Crimea because it's strategically important to it's navy. Which is why Russia conquered it centuries ago. Now the US says you can't have it. You have to give it to this new country called Ukraine, that was part of Russia for over 1000 years. Yet the US will say it needs Hawaii because it's strategically important even though the US is a land of European transplants. While Hawaii is a Polynesian nation that has existed for over 1000 years. Funny how something is good when it benefits you but it's bad when it doesn't. Hypocrisy, double dealing, double standards and deceit are the tradition of the United States of America. It doesn't care for the human factor but for the survival of the power structure that feeds itself into continuity constantly.
I concur....
I see you have been reading Putin's nationalist version of history, which has been rejected by historians as fabricated and fantasy. Actual, real history is pretty easy to come across so I suggest you give that a read. The area in question changed hands so many times over the centuries. Throughout, Ukraine always had a unique culture and language that they held onto while Russia/the USSR tried to outlaw and destroy their identity. Regarding Crimea, Russians made up 2% of the population when the Czar conquered the territory. But now after a century+ of ethnic cleansing/deportations the area is around 75% ethnic Russian. Also, Russia has numerous warm water ports on the Black Sea.
The problem is that there just aren’t enough of people qualified to be native Hawaiians left anymore to be able to have an independent nation of their own
Oh... please stop!!!!!
I remember a show about stolen treasures and them being returned that my mother watched. One episode was about Hawaii. The weird part? I later met and married my husband who was born on Oahu and his mom’s side was native Hawaiian. He and I had many conversations about the abuses of the Kingdom of Hawaii. I explain to our daughter about her heritage on his side at age appropriate levels too.
Japan
Annexed Taiwan 1895-1945
Annexed Korea 1910-1945
Occupied Vietnam 1940-1945
As a Colonialist Empire the United States annexed the Kingdom of Hawaii by force, colonizing it and then imposing by military force the US sovereignty over an independent state.
Later the US waged another war to join the colonial powers, this time against the now weak and decaying Spanish Empire. Taking Puerto Rico, Guam, Philippines.
-Cristian A. Rodriguez
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@@condorX2 Remember the Maine
@@condorX2 so, the Spanish are innocent? WoW! the only reason no one says anything about the Spanish or Portugal is because they can't pay anything. It is all about money to these people who claim something that did not happen to them but to people 100's of years ago. You wronged my Great, Great, Great, Great Great Grandfather so I need $100,000 for payment and I am happy. They only thing that will happen is they will by a new car and then the are still crying when the money is gone. Follow the money...............
@@condorX2 thank you braddah man🙏🏽
@@condorX2Puerto Rico is a possession of the U.S. They voted not to become a state under the U.S. is my understanding. Don't know about Guam. Please do the homework regarding how Queen Liliuokalani was held at bay, under arms to sign the rights over to the U.S. She did so to prevent bloodshed. She was a believer in Christ Jesus. Jesus said, "Vengence is MINE, I will recompense" (repay one day). Meanwhile, life goes on. Aloha!
I have a great understanding of Hawaiian culture. With the deepest appreciation and respect for all those that participated in this documentary.
Music and art are the glues that hold our world together. Rip 🙏 Israel Kamakakawiwo ole'. One of my favorite singers. History is most important for all of us to understand.
I have tried and have been erased from my views and education on this. May this go through this time.
Ua mau ke ea aina i ka pono.
(The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. )
I love the Hawaiian Islands and have visited there and its people.
"Ua mau ke ea o ka ʻāina i ka pono o Hawaiʻi." (The sovereignty of the land is perpetuated in righteousness.)
I remember quite a few years ago I watched a movie about Hawaii when the Hawaiian princess was forced to turn these great islands over to the United States. Does anyone know this movie, because I have only seen it once, and that was it.
Hawaii became a US state August 21, 1959. Maui attacked August 8, 2023.
Pondering certain questions, and I strongly believe that , yes, a land grab, and something more sinister.
Gold watch over and bless the Hawaiian people, especially in Maul. Bring the TRUTH TO THE LIGHT !
The only movie I can think of is Princess Ka’iulani.
Thank you! I think that was the movie's title. Will check out to make sure. Again, Thank You !
@@HiLife4EwaJust watched the trailer..the movie was released May 2010. That was the movie. Again, thank you!
@@HiLife4Ewa❤
We never became the 50th state. It’s well documented.
You did
@@emperorpalpatine7557according to who? Not to Hawaiians we didn't. Lol if someone told me "you're ameriKKKan; get over it" to my face, well, let's just say I hope you can fight well 🤷♂️. Remember, patriotism is love between oneself and one's nation, and you can't FORCE ANYONE to love anything or anyone they refuse to love. It's like the domestic violence perpetrator telling the victim "love me, or else". And the victim and perpetrator CANNOT be on equal standing as the victim will always crave their freedom but the perpetrator always the control/enslavement
Ahhh an idiot who doesn't know how the constitution works Hawaii joined the union as a state and therfore cannot leave
I’m sorry you were forced to be an American although u would like to remained Hawaiian 🌺 ❤😢
@sovereignhawaiian I see ignorance is strength for you your entire population voted for statehood in 59 and Amekkan my family originated from Germany and Italy in the early 1900s you were conquered and you cannot survive on your own grow up
Free Puerto Rico!! No Statehood!! No Hawaii 2.0!!
good luck dude, but Puerto Rico would pribably be poorer that all of africa without usa
@@tawan20082008 How so? How will Puerto Rico automatically become poor from Independence?
The Kingdom of Hawai'i was overthrown by groups opposed to the unilateral rewriting of the Kingdom's Constitution, including members of the Queen's court, native Islanders. The new document would have invested more land and power in the "Royal Family" at the expense of all Hawaiians. History is never as black and white as your silly program and headline imply.
You obviously do not understand at all whatsoever what the Sovereign Polynesian Culturally grounded Monarchy was.
What reveals the fallacy of your comment is the use of
" ("Royal Family") " in contempt of the Monarchy, while attempting to separate the Hawaiian People from their own Monarchy; their own Native Hawaiian *formalized* *modernized* *Alii*
Your attempt to frame the Native Hawaiian Culture (which means their *People* ), as being something that has parts that can be "separated" between the People and their Monarchy (which happens to BE their People one and the same), fails miserably and is laughable.
Yours is a western view and cannot be applied to the topic being discussed in this documentary posted.
This is an alien concept to you.
You are also likely *entirely* yourself misinformed and mislead.
I had to bluntly put an end to your groping wishful try at incorrectly being information to readers of this commentary thread. It is disgusting and malicious.
Since everything you've written is incorrect, inaccurate, and to be furthermore blunt, disrespectful to Hawai'i and nothing more than comedy to Hawai'i, Hawaiians, and Kama'Aina Local Islanders.
They have a vendetta against America and are just about always out to paint us in a negative light when in fact, of all the colonial “empires” out there.. we were by far the most tame and certainly nothing in comparison to their own.
@@darthsilversith667
There is no vendetta.
You are imagining things.
They are interested making right a wrong.
They are interested in correcting something that was wrongdoing.
There are complex issues regarding Indigenous Native People existing in their own World on their own Land that are also at hand being corrected.
@@darthsilversith667
It was not tame.
*AT* *all*
The Hawaiian People nearly vanished from *genocide*
(Physically).
The Hawaiian Culture was nearly *extinguished*
There was in fact, a *Holocaust*
between the Great Mahele to the current day condition *now*
There are, in physical fact, very very *few* ancestrally 100% Hawaiians left today.
Approximately 99% of Ancestrally descendant (Original, *Aboriginal* Polynesian ancestry) Hawaiians today are of *mixed* *ancestry*
@@SunnyIlha I never said we were innocent.. but what we have done in comparison to all the other “imperial/colonial” powers.. is positively tame in comparison, especially the country in which Timeline comes from. Yet, they and everyone else only seems interested in talking about what we did the most. Yet, they’re always coming to us with their hats in their hands looking for handouts and to be saved like everyone else.
I'm happy to see it wasn't just the British that invaded lands that didn't belong to them
My mother was taken from her land, family and she was SUPPOSED to be educated.
She died NOT even being able to spell her own name so the English take over of my country Australia did her no favours
They split up families, tribes and customs.
My mother left school and 11 to raise her two younger brothers...
My mother died never seeing her own mother and other family members ever again.
Saying sorry just doesn't cut it.
The US are the British as well just another branch
Side eyed by Aborigines
@@eastsidedouble736actually US is worse. British atleast recognized the monarchy of Hawaii.
@@Hittdogg17right....because the British gave Kamehameha weapons as a favor to a friend. Right?
@@joelbyrnes9710 well the proof is in the action. America took over Hawaii not Britain. They had plenty of opportunities. Do you even know about the Paulet Affair?
As a Puerto Rican we been struggling for independence from the United States for ma many years . Hawaii was forced to become a 50th state and was on its own before the U.S. arrived. Puerto Rico and Hawaii deserved to be an independent nation.
That isn't beneficial to anyone involved, Hawaii US relationship is symbiotic, really think about what would happen is Hawaii cut all ties with the US.
@@maxeddis1138symbolic? in what way? for Hawaiians that symbol is different to maybe Americans. for us, it's a constant reminder of their betrayal, the death of our queen and the overthrow of our home. a reminder that if American could choose to with no backlash, they would do it again. they would, with no regrets, murder our people and ban our culture that isn't used for tourists.
at MOST it's just America showing their military power. that's the only possible symbolism I can think of.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but the Kingdom was established by a war of aggression. Kamehameha gathered his army on the west shore of Hawaii Island and launched across the water to invade Maui.
We once sentenced Hermann Goering to death for exactly that.
Before this war ended, there was the horrific battle of the cliffs on Oahu.
Kauai "peacefully" chose to join the Kingdom, because, what choice did they have?
This is why the Kingdom, and then the Republic, and then the Territory, and finally the State, is named after this one Island.
Not the cleanest record to have when complaining about the Annexation. At least the US Armed Forces didn't shove a bunch of people off of a cliff.
Here is a thought experiment. The Kingdom was overthrown at the end of the 19th Century. It's been over 120 years. We undo statehood, grant independence like we did the Philippines, and re-establish the Kingdom.
Who gets to become citizens of this re-established Kingdom? Everyone presently living there? Will they continue to enjoy freedom of religion and speech? Equal protection of the laws? How about property rights? Due process rights? Jury trials?
I won't even mention that one of the alternatives was to let the Japanese take over the Pacific. We know how respectful they were of the rights and independence of the territories they conquered before the US covered the ocean with steel and filled the skies with aluminum. How would Hawaii fare as a prefecture of Japan?
Wtf lol
This story can be summed succinctly as follows:
Part 1: For centuries, the individual islands in the Hawaiian island archipelago are each ruled by ambitious chiefs who seek to conquer the other islands in the chain, but are unable to do so due to their lack of sophisticated (i.e., Western) military technology. (Note: This is referred to as a state of endemic warfare, where all are constantly battling with each other).
Part 2: In the closing decades of the 18th century, one Hawaiian chief -- Kamehameha -- comes into possession of not only Western style military hardware but two English castaways who know how to maintain it and strategically use it to its greatest effect.
Part 3: Kamehameha then conquers all of the other islands in the Hawaiian archipelago save one -- that of Kaua'i -- through military conquest, telling other Hawaiians to either submit to his rule or die. Some chiefs die fighting and some commit suicide rather than submit to another tyrant. (Note: This is what is referred to by many as "the unification of the Hawaiian kingdom by the Great Kamehameha I").
Part 4: In an effort to modernize their country, the Hawaiian monarchy line established by Kamehameha lays the foundation for its own destruction.
Part 5: In 1893, without even putting up so much as a fight, the Hawaiian kingdom is overthrown by insurrectionists who are operating without the actual backing of the US government (but using US military forces at their immediate disposal) and using the same basic technology that was used to establish the Hawaiian kingdom in the first place.
Part 6: After five years of debate over whether or not to annex Hawaii, as a result of the Spanish American War and the need to annex Hawaii as a stepping stone to the Philippines, Hawaii is finally annexed by the US in the year 1898.
Part 7: Starting in the 1970's, Hawaiian activists begin clamoring for sovereignty by totally ignoring and/or distorting their own historical past, making it out to be something it really wasn't (e.g., claiming that Kamehameha "unified Hawaii" but ignoring just exactly how he accomplished that feat, or claiming that the US overthrew the Hawaiian monarch when it really didn't, and only rogue elements within it were involved in that initial overthrow) and refusing to recognize the fact that Hawaii will never become and independent and sovereign nation just so they can continue in their feelings of righteous anger.
Yeah we know America is the empire of lies and doesn't follow through on its beliefs of freedom of men.
You are so right. The a U.S. has saved the Hawaiian people from a lot of problems they still aren't ready for in this sophisticated and evil designing world.
@@cheekymonkey2 The U.S. IS the evil in the world.
Very interesting perspective. Makes sense. No one really owns anything. If we all loved one and other, what a world.
@@TEM14411 Easy for foreigners to say to the indigenous people all around the world who been screwed by colonialism and racism...
I really hope that the Hawaiians proceed to secede from the Union and become once again a sovereign nation! Free peoples of the world support you!
My great great grandfather was the Postmaster General of Hawaii.
His son went on to discover the wealthiest tin mine in Australia.
Awesome
Really cool!
👍
Renison Bell?
So you're rich?
Clinton, what a man.
I feel sorry for the people who can't afford to live where they were born. Where does an Islander go when that happens.
If Uncle wants to be less American he could stop eating so much. Look at Taiwan, how many large people live in Taiwan.
What percentage of Hawaiians voted for statehood?
93%
Hawaii-a U.S. territory since 1898-became the 50th state in August, 1959, following a referendum in Hawaii in which more than 93% of the voters approved the proposition that the territory should be admitted as a state.
Your statement fails at the outset instantly.
Since the Monarchy Kingdom *preceded* Statehood.
The existing Monarchy Kingdom not only preceded Statehood, it *supercedes* Statehood.
It has been admitted as having been wrongful, illegally committed act by the The United States (Recognized *by* the United States as illegal wrongful act *committed* by the United States).
Bet they left that out though
Very true, Hawaii was not in anyway stolen. The people wanted to be free of a evil monarch and chose to become Americans of there own free will.
This whole evil video is filled with nothing but outright lies.
@@robertsears8323
You are in denial.
It clearly has struck a nerve.
The information this documentary has accurately and correctly presented and revealed.
It *hurts*
Does it not.
Well by golly that puts a whole new spin on this! So President Clinton committed treason against the sovereign people of the sovereign State of Hawaii by apologizing for the relatively nonviolent overthrow of a monarch. If supreme executive power derives from a mandate of the masses, that vote in 1959 has far more authority than Kamehameha's mandate of a bunch of soldiers using guns, weapons and force.
I am sick and tired of anti-American liberals apologizing for everything the United States has done since 1776!
Fun fact: It was ILLEGAL to worship Madame Pele during the Kingdom. It became constitutionally protected to worship Pele when the Territory was annexed.
So am I allowed to assume that the genocide of my indigenous people of the main land had to die so the abomination of our nation could find a paradise that was stolen from the indigenous people?
Sounds familiar []
Also native Americans had the iron Confederate group, which Cree, Blackfoot and a 3rd native tribe made there own coalition, also there are many more groups that but differences aside to fight french, English,
I'm Acadian, my people are all but mostly gone, less then 500 of us world
Wide we had an island off nova Scotia called Accadia but we were defeated and ran down to Louisiana, starting Cajun french, only handful families still live down south most in Southern Ontario now
ruclips.net/video/_Nh7aSgiER0/видео.html
Video on history of my people
There are millions of Acadians in Louisiana who were given sanctuary by their Catholic brothers the Spanish.
Much Respect, I am glad I stumbled across this insert. There is a lot to learn. I am also a decedent of a lost Kingdom.I am currently in South Africa🇿🇦 west of Johannesburg in Roodepoort. Long Live Hawaii Kingdom!!! Yours has risen like a beautiful Phoenix🌈
This documentary is absolutely subjective in its presentation. First, the Hawaiin Kingdom was absolutely NOT innocent of its past either, just look up Kamehameha's record as a start. Secondly, by what margin was Statehood approved in the referendum? It was a resounding and overwhelming YEA vote.
No, I as an American do not have the slightest remorse and neither will I be expected to- especially since I had nothing to do with the annexation. In fact, I'm willing to bet anyone who argues the points that Hawaii never granted free speech, religion, press, the right the trial by jury, right to keep and bear arms. They're still actively attacking the latter on a constant basis. So no, I don't think I do care about what the loud minority thinks.
As sad as this story is ,Hawaiians should consider themselves lucky that America governs them and not Japan or China or even Russia, because as you well know these peoples would have annihilated all Natives as inferiors long time ago . Damn the Military employ’s over 110,000 locals in Hawaii, most US states would bend over backwards for that privilege
Like the Philippines? You make it sound like Chine, Russia, Japan and America own the whole planet
This video has both incorrect and missing info concerning the Petitions against Annexation and the Annexation itself. At time 11:25, the narrator said the petition had failed. This is false! The petition had succeeded not only once, but 3 times (missing info). The US could not Annex Hawaii via a Treaty because it could not get enough votes (missing info). There is no Treaty of Annexation between the US and the Hawaiian Kingdom (missing info). Therefore, the US did not Annex Hawaii (missing info). But the narrator said at 11:48 the Hawaiian Kingdom was Annexed (incorrect info). What this video failed to explain was how did the US "Annex" the Hawaiian Kingdom if there was no Treaty of Annexation (missing info). Since the US could not get the acquired votes for annexation, they decided to pass a law, a US law to annex a foreign country (missing info). As some of you may know, US laws do not extend beyond the boundaries of the US. US laws are not effective in Japan, France, Belgium, Spain, or any other foreign country, including the Hawaiian Kingdom. This is the most important part of this video and for public awareness and knowledge and they completely left that info out. Auwe!
The problem with independence, is that no small country can survive w/out the military power of the large countries. So, do u want Russia, China, or the U.S. to be ur security? U should still be able to practice ur culture, language, etc ur state wants but u should ensure ppl r at least bilingual so that more ppl can communicate. Honestly, I think we should have chosen 1 language long ago. I don’t hold on to the past. I’m part Native American but I’m not interested in living on the reservation, speaking the language my ppl spoke long ago, or anything else. We, the ppl alive today, in my community, in my state have created a different but fine culture, language, etc. I realize there were a lot of wrongs in the past but it’s time to get over that. If we all tried to go back to some time in the past, mind u, many ppl lived in all the lands we live on today, we would cause destabilization of the entire country, what date do we stop? Do we go back to 1900, 1800, 79 ad and who gets to decide? Going back would look like Ukraine. None of us should be going back. The past is over and most ppl alive today never lived in that world. Stop wasting time, energy, and money trying to go back in time when the story sounds more beneficial for u or me. Instead, spend time on making the future great!
The flicker effect used during the scenes that show old photos is overdone. I couldn’t watch those scenes because it was like a strobe. This information could’ve (and should’ve) been presented without unnecessary editing effects.
my issue was also with the dentist drill sound at the beginning. I had to mute the intro
It is always sad to say, the old saying, no people's can be an island anymore.
Love from Wales. ✝️🏴
@Syd McCreath
I AM 9,000 years old, when we weren't an island, We wouldn't have done Brexit then!
No man is an island. Shakespeare. Greetings from a neighbour in Shropshire. Nos da.
Well this makes that weird fire that incinerated Hawaii natives and their homes make sense.
30 years to the date almost tooo ....very creepy
“There’ll be no more talk of sovereignty and independence from our pacific theater naval equipment storage unit! time for a good old fashioned annexa- uh… statehood”
-Murca, on one of the few times they didn’t care a place was full of brown people.
Well Japanese occupation wasn't so nice, from what I hear. The native people of Guam, Micronesia, Polynesia, New Guinea, the Philipines, China, Korea, etc, etc, etc. sure didn't like the alternative. If the Hawaii was independent the US would be no moral, legal, or international obligation to liberate native Hawaiians, or any of the 7 major islands in their archepeligo. If the US Pacific fleet is stationed in San Diego, San Francisco, or even Midway, it's possible the Japanese might invade Hawaii, & it's other major targets like Malaysia, Indonesia {for oil}, Hong Kong, maybe the Philipines, & never declare
@@kellyowens1868One indeed must choose the lesser of two weevils.
@@kellyowens1868…Japan has not had an equip fighting Military since The U.S. dropped the Atomic Bomb that ended WWII. You may want to watch factual and legal Presentations on RUclips given by Keanu Sai who is a Doctor of Political Science. He and The Regency of The Hawaiian Kingdom have been collecting legal documents from the United States Archives and the Hawaiian Archives for the last 20 years, proving the illegal take over of Hawaii, A Sovereign Nation.
In my town we have a viking ship museum, that creates functional replicas of viking ships , I would like to see a Hawaiian version of that
look up hokulea
A substantial Museum of such type would be a brilliant idea to make real.
@@sabinecarter8208 I will, you look up "Roskilde viking ships".. That's my home town
@@sabinecarter8208 oh yeah that the kinda vessel I was thinking about, an ancient ocean cruiser 🌊👌
Great idea!!!The Pequot Museum Connecticut USA has a poly resin replica of a long boat that I would really love to see a working replica of one day too.
Gandalf the White is not happy with Uncle Sam @ 12:43. He's so upset that he changed his name to "Uncle Sam Kuailani."
On the lighter side of humor,
Gandalf would've been quite teed off about those 13 crooks and would have set things straight right away .......
Had been around then......
@@SunnyIlha Are you talking about the American business men who overthrew the Queen of Hawaii?
@@ritemolawbks8012
No; I didn't mean to be misinterpreted.
I referred to the Character Gandalf.
He, Gandalf the Wise,
(movie character), would not have approved of those behind the overthrow of the Sovereign Nation being discussed.
He surely would have turned them permanently into stone.
Not that I am particularly pro-US but this channel has played host to some very questionably anti-US documentaries. So much so that Im beginning to feel like im watching propaganda rather than documentaries.
Not saying this channel can't be propaganda, since I haven't watched it enough to know, but what I have done a lot is read history. And when you read history of the past few hundred years, the US often comes off as the main villain of the story. History being seemingly anti-US tells more about the US than it does of those that recorded the history. Also worth noting, that propaganda isn't necessarily false, and not everything that goes against one's narrative is propaganda. Sometimes the truth takes sides, whether we like it or not.
Imperialist pot deflecting to blacken image of offspring kettle?
We yanks deserve some of it, but, yeah.
@@robertacomstock3655 😆
What a documentary to put that comment on 🤦
@@agnz you can go to wikipedia and very quickly find out that this documentary left out quite a few details in the annexation of hawaii. Its a shame really because it is a really interesting part of history. Leaving things out to make the US worse shows bias.
Hawaii has benefitted far more being apart of the United States than it would have trying to be its own kingdom. It lacks major exports and aside from tourism can not support itself independently.
Please Americans are no saviors we were independent before you we will be independent after you. Question is when will America be free of its dependency on the IMF and the federal reserve...what about the District of Columbia and the CORPORATION OF AMERICA? A true Patriot should be up in arms with your government.
Cute, criminal narrator? Prison tattoo [tear] indicating He killed someone?
What's worse, is that same imbecile goes on to claim that PACOM maintains ICBM silo sites on the Islands which, we all know to be a flat out lie because, as much as I hate that they've ever even done this, the DoD and U.S. Army Corps of Engineers actually declassified the locations of all hardened Minuteman III locations, and all of them are situated throughout North America. Anything outside of CONUS is the inherent responsibility of the U.S. Navy's SSBN class submarines which, may at times, port in Hawai'i for refit or resupply, but are certainly never "stationed" there either.
Try not to be distracted by it.
You'll lose sight of the importance of the topic of the documentary.
@Sunny Island which is what? "Haole evil"?
@@karlhenderson2289 you believe the government? Like the HSA actually demobbed the storage facility of U.S. Citizens emails & telephone conversations; Or that Hoover's "Blackmail" files were destroyed. No government does these things.
@Mik Mik at this point, the only federal government employee that I'll ever trust is me.
I really hope the Hawaiian government has a major ace up their sleeve because historically, "The US military can leave and go back to North America" hasn't really worked out all that well in most places.
Government made of haoles, it’s unlikely
Terima kasih perkongsian video nya 👍👍👍
This really helps me. I’m a Wikipedia historian; as opposed to an actual historian
LOL at all the contradictions in this Anti American video. Soooo woke!
dude get a life
❤❤❤ Paniolo. California Mexico The vaqueros , the taught Hawaiians how to ranch 50 years before teaching Texans.. Paniolo : Vaqueros “cowboys”
Native Americans also had treaties.
Before United States annexed the independent country of Hawaii,it already annexed the independent country of Texas. According to history,United States annexed two independent countries.
So what? Everyone, everywhere wants to be in the United States.
Neither Hawaii nor Texas was ever independent. Also both places wanted to be part of the USA without the us even asking.
@@clvrswine That is a good point. And very true.
We the knowledgeable all know that a giant chunk of Mexico was bit off.
Academia writes many books about this topic and History.
It is one of the aspects of American History that reveals why that specific exact region area has peculiar unique conundrums and dilemma that is actually still widely misunderstood till today.
That the United States essential naturalized into Citizenry hundreds of thousands of Mexican Citizens when it violated Mexico's border by invasion and annexation of that northernmost area of Mexico.
It's complicated, complex and really still a touchy subject, since the Mexicans who were already there *never* *left* !
@@clvrswine Not everyone.
Oh man, what a closing scene in this video- a little Hawaiian boy playing in the sand and the backdrop a nuclear submarine passing.
One of my worries that I sometimes think and fret about as my grandchildren and I are living at ground zero 6 miles from Pearl Harbor and Hickman Air Force Base. In war we would be vaporized. He Hawaii makou (we are Hawaiian). Pono’ole ( this is not right) as Hawaii was once a neutral country where ships would have to disarm prior to entering Honolulu or Lahaina Harbor.
GOD help us all. 🌺
As an American, the only right thing to do is give the land back. Ethics > Profits.
The Hawaiians will one day get their land back
Then how about the monarch? Will they reinstated the Kamehameha family as the rightful heir to Kingdom of Hawaii? There's no mention about reinstating the Kamehamehas even once in this documentary. Remember that they were overthrown and forced to abdicated. So it just make sense these people to do the right to reinstated the Kamehamehas back to their throne. Failed to do so only shows that these people are hypocrites as the US.
Thanks for sharing. I think this film is about 6 years old? You should present what's really going on now today?
No, read the title of the video again.
Tyranny and oppression with greater intensity!
Interestingly, Hawai'i would have still been an Allied Nation of Friendly Nations with the United States, and, economically, directly tied with the United States.
This is an absolute certainty.
Again, Hawai'i Islanders would have still contributed, in exact same participation to the Allied Cause in World War Two as Soldier Allied Combatants.
And throughout the Cold War, equally as well, Hawai'i would have been (obviously) a Democracy.
It would have been a member Nation of Global Democracies (Itself already since Kamehameha I, a developing evolving Plural Society).
This is of course stating the obvious and a bygone conclusion.
Rock On Hawaii bruda!! 👍👍💪✌️❤️🩹🇺🇸
so why no people's uprising? why do nothing - the 1959 Hawaii govt was corrupt ?
@@johnlennox-pe2nq
Statehood in 1959
(much later occurring in Hawai'i' History) was not an 'extension' of the original initial wrongdoing committed against the Monarchy (Queen Liliuokalani at the time of the wrongdoing).
This is a complicated complex dilemma.
Ultimately, nevertheless, sooner or later, the problem of the illegal overthrow of the Hawaii Monarchy
(The Sovereign Nation) was destined to be revealed and would come under scrutiny to be resolved for what it was ( *and* *is* to this very hour of this day we comment in reply to each other in this commentary thread).
Essentially, the *crime* was going to face it's destiny and fate.
It is an extremely complicated matter that is working itself out now.
Dear Brothers + Sisters about Maui:
Pearl Harbor... We knew it was an enemy! This is so much WORSE as was & continues to be done by many insiders: Husband of the 1st Lady of Hawai'i. She knows he's stabbing her & her people in the back? Reminds us of enemies of our Queen Lili'uokalani. We're Prayerfully together in this ❤️
God Bless Hawaii❤
God? Is christianity their native religion?
@@teeess9551it’s not but if he wants to pray to his own god for our sake, I have no problem with this
There is a reason why to US won't give up such a strategic place and military zone. We cannot afford to give up such a key position for our military. If the US leaves who is to say China or Russia or some other nation won't take steps to move right in. It would be all out war to take that land for their military. That would give them military power in a key position. No not happening.
Hawaiians have lived well under American statehood that's why they voted for it.
This is a false opinion. Hawaiians did not vote for Statehood. Look up the voter census of Hawaii's Statehood and you would see many Americans living in Hawaii voted for Statehood. Additionally, the voting was done illegally since while under Occupation, all legislation acts of the occupied comes to halt. Additionally, the Occupier cannot force the occupied to swear oath of allegiance to the occupying force. (Field Manual FM27-10 - Law of Land Warfare, Chapter 6, section 351 - 359)
I think it's time we send the marine activist to the island of Cuba to bring his ideas of fairness and equity there. I'm all for cutting all the checks to Hawaii. Want to see what Hawaii looks like ten years after their emancipation? Go to any South Pacific island and get your peace and quiet there.
It is the same thing the Europeans did to the Native Americans.
It's being stolen again.
If it wasn't for the US, Hawaii would be a backwards third world country barely capable of feeding itself. Nice location, completely dependent on the outside world.
yes, but that was their RIGHT.
They did the same to the indigenous natives of the U S. Such entitlement and ownership of native land...North America. There are documents that states the Hawaiians could get their islands back and is in hiding. The US will never give back the islands...military hold and is seen as an advantage.
The Hawaiians were so advanced that the majority if her people could speak 2 or 3 languages including Hawaiian. They also had a railway b4 the west, newspapers and electricity much sooner than the US did east of the Mississippi. I lived in Hawaii and took Hawaiian studies and was taught very many traditions and customs. How the land is respected and the sustainable actions if the Hawaiians. I have seen how sacred lands were taken illegally and misused. I worked with DNLR in accessing lands that are truely Hawaiian sacred spots that have been stolen by greedy commercialism. The Hawaiians are very much like the natives of America and actually had ocean crossings and knew the currents and the stars in navigating across the Pacific to the mainland of America centuries.
The annexation was purposely to "christianize" the natives. The white man did the same to Native Americans. Attempting to assimilate by destroying cultural and spiritual ceremonies and traditions; in example the dancing of hula which is so much than dance. Its storytelling and keeping the history of Hawaiians alive. Ollelo. Mahalo nui loa. 🙏🤙
As a kid I felt the Philippines should have been kept as a state of the US due to the corruption issues that have plagued the Philippines since its independence. But I know it’s more complicated. The people of the Philippines were tired of being enslaved by Spain for 300 years.
I agree with you. We should have held on to it and developed it even if only for military purposes. I believe that had we done that Japan, China and North Korea would not be where they are now. I also believe that the Korean and Vietnam wars may not have happened and WW2 would have been limited to Europe. JMO.
The history of the status of US Phillippine relations seems confusing....is it a state? Is it a US territory? Is it a protectorate? Is is, God forbid, a colony...? Seems the archipelago needs unity, finances, and direction...time to become an Asian Tiger of a Nation and Republic....get off your knees,,arise!
Enslaved? 😂😂😂😂😂 It was merely an administrative region, the Spanish merely put their feet there 😂 what a naive guilt trapped ldl0t
This is the best channel for history. thank's for sharing!!
Okay so America took over Hawaii... Better us than China! 🙈💪✌️❤️🩹🇺🇸
Or Japan. They should thank God they are under the protection of the U.S military. People commenting on this for sentimental reasons need to study history and the geography before saying foolish things. To think secession would solve there problems is insane.
hahahah, japan? China?? you guys are creative
The reason the sugar interests felt threatened and even more so keen to overthrow the monarchy had more to do with tariffs placed on Hawaiian sugar by the US Hawaiis primary trading partner at the time. With the fear of a constitution that basically restored absolute status to the Monarchy these businessmen decided to act thus with minister Stevens landed a troupe of us naval officers who were anchored in Honolulu harbor at the time to “protect American lives.” The Kingdom which had already been stripped of its own military and navy asside from the Royal guard and police department, since the rule of King Lunalilo, was basically powerless against the armed US officers. Liliuokalani to avoid any blood shed stood down from her throne with the thought that the US government would recognize the treason of these men and reinstate her. For a 51 min video this largely ignores the socio-political state of Hawaii at the time a nation with ambitions to be equal to the nations of the world, a highly educated yet dwindling population due to disease being replaced by immigrants…on top of a business elite that would do anything to secure there profits backed by the powerful US, looming on her doorstep a young nation herself eager for control and expansion having its own interests in Hawaiis strategic position in the Pacific (talks for Pearl Harbor beginning as far back as the reign of King Lunalilo possibly Kamehameh V)
That was then WW2 came about and Hawaii would if been invaded by Japan. They destroyed the monarchy of China Manchuria and Korea do you think they would of been more kind to Hawaii. The US is the strongest nation in the world and it has protected Hawaii. American citizenship is very valuable.
Pearl Harbor was being used as a US military port before the monarchy was overthrown. The US would have had a military presence in Hawaiʻi either way. Hawaiʻi would not ahve just been "invaded by Japan."@@SandraHernandez-mz7um
Hawaii would also be vulnerable without the bases. Especially now!
I agree they would if been invaded and taken over fully by the Japanese. If the allies didn’t win the WW2 it would be far worse for the native Hawaiians.
How many countries have US MILITARY BASES? WERE THOSE COUNTRIES COLONIZED??? FOH
Nope. Japan wasn’t an issue when Hawaii was taken over.. 100 years before WW2
I am an Anglo who lived in Hawaii for 5 years from 1968-1973. I have first hand experience with racial tension in Hawaii during that time and from subsequent visits. Whites are resented to varying degrees among the population of Native Hawaiians. Some of that antipathy is justifiable considering the record of shameless discrimination and repression directed at the indigenous population by mainly Anglo American settlers and business interests. However, it's important to know that relatively few 100% blood Hawaiians exist today (5,000?) A much larger population of mixed-race Hawaiian/Japanese, Chinese, Filipino, Anglo et al., people inhabit the state. In fact, Hawaii has one of the most ethnically diverse populations in the world. That's one of its strengths and what makes it such an interesting place to visit or live. Do the Hawaiian people (based on some nebulously quantifiable blood line) deserve land or other reparations based on their past and present treatment? Probably so. But implementing such redress will involve the unraveling of a legal and ethical gordian knot.
Then maybe mericans shouldn't hint at or request or demand that other countries do the same, if they have dirty laundry themselves?, they should keep their noses out of other nations business, it can sometimes bring the spotlight on your own toes....
It was deliberately glossed over here, but a majority of the people involved in overthrowing the Hawaiian monarchy were HAWAIIAN CITIZENS. Their ethnicity is irrelevant unless you believe that being born the "wrong ethnicity" makes you a second-class citizen.
I think there's an unfortunate problem with reinstating Hawaii's sovereignty. That being the kingdom would have to defend itself from invasion. How would they do it?
I don't think this would even be an issue. While I wish the (Native) Hawaiians good luck in finding their own culture again, and recovering property, I very much doubt that the U.S. would part with one of its states. Also, even if there was a referendum, no chance that the large Asian and Caucasian population majority would vote for independence from the U.S.
@@martinmuehlner1607 I agree it probably won't be an issue. I was looking at it hypothetically. If the US were to abandon Hawaii governmentally speaking it wouldn't be far fetched for some other nation to want to step in and gain control. It is some pretty prime real-estate. But I digress because I know too little about it
Hawaiian natives are the perfect examples of why Puerto Rico should not be fooled or forced into statehood.. USA will avoid having to apologize and we will not have more to regret.
As kanaka an rooted to the last king 💯 I will die for my aina
❤❤❤ you gotta get behind me tho lol 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
@@Hittdogg17 we stand side by side Hawaiian 💯🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
And sorry America we’ll never let you go
Stop your whining every country in the world has been subjugated by someone else many times over.
It's not just a case of American annexation or Hawaiian Independence. It's more a question of who do you want annexing you - Japan, China, England, Russia, France or America?
And if America were to leave, the fight among them for possession of Hawaii would resume.
And as your eyes can not avoid the horrors of Russian annexation of their neighbor, good luck getting any kind of letter of apology or reclamation of land out of them.
About the time the British landed, they were still involved in the trans Atlantic slave trade, in large part for slaves to worn their sugar plantations in the Caribbean. One wonders if they had designs to put native Hawaiians to the same task.
They're only discussing historical fact. Hawaii is officially a US state and couldn't leave the union even if 100% of the population demanded it.
Everyone there was born America, and that won't change just by accurately telling the history of Hawaii.
@ Unoseth
You argument is irrelevant and moot.
Since the Hawaiian Kingdom (Governmentally structured as a Monarchy *politically* ; not only symbolically) was in Friendly Nations Relationship with the United States, (as strong as Great Britain was, and is as the United Kingdom).
Not only this, the Hawaiian Kingdom was *equally* *tied* to the United States of America *ECONOMICALLY*
@@SunnyIlha Talk about "moot". Friendly Nations" has no legal meaning. Neither the US or UK had any obligation to defend Hawaii's independence. And the UK was too far away to matter. And economic tes are only possible with militarily backed presence. Without the US Pacific fleet, Japan would have just docked in Pearl Harbor and deported all the native and non native population to some Southeast Asian s'hole or just do as they did to Nanking.
@@samshepperrd
Your nonsense is irritating.
The Navy Pacific Fleet
of The United States of America
Navy was there.
Your understanding of History is also poor.
@@SunnyIlha And because the US Pacific Fleet and Army was in Hawaii, the Imperial Japanese Navy and Army were not.
United States Of America has no juridiction of Hawaiian subjects.2024.
I am really sorry for what our united states done to your home they had no right to do this and you should have your land back I think most of the Ameecian people don't know this I will share it so others will know this see they didn't teach us in school that your land was ripped from you all .I pray you get it all back completely.Bless you all.
How about dropping all this political whining and post a history documentary.
Yeah cus history has nothing to do with politics...
It is a history documentary and history is politics. Everything you do, say and think is your politics. You are obviously naive and uneducated.
You not liking the truth
@@xander5506 Whining doesn't.
@@kidsgrove-spider8405 Not liking the whining.
Then the United of America gets angry when Putin took Crimea peninsula from Kiev.
i had no idea hawaii was its own independent nation i grew up in the mainland states ive never been to hawaii but ive always wondered why they were a part of the union. i support hawaii independence however no US presence there would invite russia or china to try to invade hawaii as well....those islands would make great missile bases.
Oh really how many other countries have Russia or China taken over and put military bases there????? Exactly! That's a stupid argument, but now on thr other hand how many U.S military bases are there around the globe? There's roughly 850 in 90 different countries! There's only one expansionist country and that's the United States 😠
They're on a different continent from North America. Can you think of any reason why China or Russia would be expanding, seizing islands, and trying to surround the US mainland with missiles? They've used border disputes as pretext to invade, but you're assuming they would use the same containment strategy as the US.
Don't look now, but so was Texas.
@@ritemolawbks8012 Remember Cuba?
@@Justiceisforeveryone This was an alternative timeline. The Cuban Missile Crisis was connected to the Cold War, US containment policy, and NATO nuclear warheads in Turkey and Italy pointing at the Soviet Union.
#FreeHawaii
Hate to break it to them, but if the US didn't claim Hawaii, another Pacific power would've done it instead like the Spanish, Japanese, or Chinese...
but it was the usa that did it , so here we are
So you want to give up statehood… cut ties with US…. Lose all benefits that come with being a state…
So do you find a descendant of the last “king” of Hawaii and reinstate them as a monarchy? Setup some form of democracy? I’m genuinely curious how you would “rule” yourselves. How do you pay for things like roads, water treatment, electricity, airports, harbors/docks, schools, police, military? I guess there would be some form of taxation… but if you kick out all non-native Hawaiians, would the population be sufficient to pay for everything needed?
How do you choose who stays and who leaves? Like how much “native blood” would someone have to have to stay? Does the newly formed Hawaiin government or reinstated monarchy reimburse anyone who owns property on the island? Or are you just going to take all those homes as some kind of compensation? Do you kick out all US owned businesses? I would assume so, so where do you get the capital to start all those new businesses ran by locals?
And when some other country decides they want your land, who stops them? Do you expect the Us to step in to protect you?
Hawaii has a great culture and history. But the U.S. isn't going to give it back. And you're choice is U.S. or CHINA. And you may not have all the same rights as you do under the U.S. and the grass isn't always greener. Just look at what happened to the PHILIPPINES when the U.S. gave them Independence.
Think about that.
Why would the Queen of Hawaii want to keep their citizens poor and in dirt floor huts ? The people of Hawaii look healthy and go to great Universities now and have self determination . Only wish the people of the middle east would understand how great their life could be !!
Free Hawaii ❤
Imagine if Japan took control of the Hawaiian Islands during the World War. Where would we be then?
Because of the Americans, the land price is going up, and the native people are being priced out. If it continues, there will be no natives left. Be like the British give back there land.
Hawaiians are proud American patriots. In the unlikely event that Hawaii was allowed to secede from the union, the military bases would remain regardless. ❤ to my Hawaiian brothers and sisters from CA
Not Americans buddy. Sorry
@@bruhinthewild Every person in North, Central, & South America are American. So it depends on whether the Hawaiian islands are considered part of the Americas or Oceania.
@@notorioustori What does North Cal have to do with Hawaii?
The word is seceed.
@@notorioustori Nope! I think that every foreign national living in the Americas from Alaska to Chile would have a problem with your analysis.And may God help you if you call a Canadian an American.
Oh please. Hawaiian’s should also be thankful for American influence and protections.
Didn’t learn about this in school. All they did was brag about there cars and curled their eyelashes. Good ole American education system!
This is the best channel for history
The best channel for revised history. Fixed it for you.
If u look at Hawaiian traditional dress and headdress as well as its legends about ancient white gods; it’s pretty obvious that the Greeks had been in Hawaii. Even Greek legends talk about it
Wonderful place
Oh can’t wait to visit in December I’ll be bringing my Native American Wife to show her how different her reservation is compared to how you people are treated
I don’t know why U.S wants this place! I went there for 5 days and was so ready to leave after the second day!!! When going to Puerto Rico you still feel like your in a 3rd world! But when i was in Hawaii i just didn’t feel the Hawaiian culture all around… it’s so American/ Vietnamese