Collateral (2004) | Movie Reaction | First Time Watching | Tom Cruise as a Bad Guy?!?
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- Tom Cruise isn't getting a five-star rating for this cab trip with Jamie Foxx. Mrs. Movies checks out Michael Mann's Collateral (2014). Here's her reaction to her first time watching.
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fun fact: the coyote "scene" was an accident, they were filming around LA and it just happened and Mann kept it in the movie cause it really fit with the feel of the movie.
This film, Tropic Thunder, and Interview with the Vampire are all definitive evidence that Tom Cruise plays a fantastic villain. He should do it more often. He’s sort of the villain in The Color of Money also.
You could probably attribute that to his hyper charisma and slick surface level charm that seems to mask more chilling depths.
Always wished he did tbh
I think his best roll was in South Park, when he played a Fudge Packer.
Vincent missed in the subway because he's so disciplined and programmed, he executed his standard "Mozambique"/failure to stop drill (two in the chest, one in the head) and all three shots caught the metal door. You can see the indentation left by the shots.
This movie is incredible. The true heart and climax of the film is the last argument in the taxi and Max deciding to truly take control of his life.
Brilliant from Michael Mann. The themes of destiny, chance and unwavering commitment to the cause feature prominently in his work and here they intertwine and permeate the entire movie. Especially chance. From Max and Vincent's first meeting at the airport(Vincent initially walks by Max's cab as Max is distracted)to their last on the train(random shooting defeating professional shooting), chance plays a vital role throughout the whole film. And Cruise is great here as a sociopathic nihilistic hitman. Should play bad guys more often Just superb stuff all round.
Let me guess: you're either a writer or an academic.
@@tutorialslave Ha ha. No sir. But thank you. I think😂
Michael Mann and Tom Cruise were both very interested in Tom playing Vincent, but the studio was unconvinced (no pun intended). They thought that Tom was "too recognizable" to play a hitman that was described in the script as "someone people wouldn't notice." So, Mann dressed up Tom as a UPS deliveryman, had him make deliveries to businesses all day and followed him around with a hidden camera, to show that people wouldn't recognize him. No one noticed Tom. He even had lunch in a cafe and had a conversation with another man for 30 minutes without being recognized. They showed the tape to the studio execs, and they agreed to let Tom play Vincent.
Love this movie. Saw it in the theater when I was in high school. Was cool to see Tom Cruise play this part. Would like to see him play a villain again. That alleyway shooting never gets old. According the pros, he did it perfectly.
Big shout out to the sound editing of this movie. It is so visceral because it is edited to be so real. The subtle echoes when surrounded by concrete up to the full volume reports of the .45 usp when he murders the thieves. It draws you in and makes you feel like you are there. The hollywood supressor is the only downside
Yeah, I never understood why Michael Mann decided to use the ridiculous sound that you always hear from Hollywood cans. He's usually trying to be as realistic as possible. Still, great movie.
@jeffgray7922 my guess is he doesn't really understand supressors same as most non shooters. You hear 22lr with subsonic and you think no noise. In reality it would have been about 100db to 110db so the same as a hand drill to a chainsaw
@@matwetton Maybe realism simply wouldnt have made the scene possible. If the shot was loud enough it wouldve made people noticed in the jazz club, or at least the staff that was still in the back after it closed down. Mann couldve decided to make them flee the scene, but that wouldnt have had the same feeling to it. The scene was what it is because it was just in silence and unnoticed, people dying like that seems to be theme here (aside from the action flashy times).
Fun fact: the beginning of collateral at the airport is the same where the movie heat ends, and the train station that ends collateral is the same that begins with heat.
Wow! That's super cool. I never noticed that. Two phenomenal films...
@@TruthWiz yea, its some Michael Mann thing, i guess.
@@steff1395Heat and Collateral go hand in hand. Make for a phenomenal double feature, especially for people who've never seen them
Hopefully someone mentioned this in the comments section but here's an amazing fact about the end and how Vincent died... It was BECAUSE he was a TRAINED killer that he died. Throughout the whole movie he was telling Max to be unpredictable and roll with the punches, E-ching, etc. If you look at the shootout scene Vincent lost because his bullets (double tap to the chest and one in the head) HIT THE METAL DOORS while Max shot wildly and unpredictably. That's an awesome touch. You can see the Vincent's bullet holes in the doorway
Dang never thought about this!
This is Tom Cruise’s best performance. Truly played against type and should have been up for an Academy Award. Such an amazing film overall too. Cool to see you guys watch this film, take care!
Magnolia?
@@roganjosh7298 Bingo. He was amazing in Magnolia.
As far as Cruise's best performances go, I would rate Magnolia and Born on the Fourth of July above this.
@@roganjosh7298 Yes. Magnolia for the win.
I think Cruise's first out and out villain role was Lestat in Interview With the Vampire, but his role in Magnolia is very close to being an antagonist. This is Cruise's third bad guy role I think.
He was amazing as Lestat even Anne Rice the author of the book doubted him but thought he was great in the role.
As always, Michael Mann succeeds in making the City itself one of the major supporting characters.
Tom Cruise should play villains more often, he definitely nailed it in this, especially with the white hair
Ha. That’s not what I said
The closest he's gotten to villainous roles was in Tropic Thunder and MAYBE Magnolia (but that's more of a redemptive arc than anything).
He is a real life villain. This is the closest to real he's ever been. Literal slave owner.
@@Gnossiene369not talking about his personal life this is a movie reaction page go elsewhere
😆@@Gnossiene369
Tom Cruise trained for weeks to perfect that Mozambique drill in the alley. He felt that as trained as Vincent was supposed to be, it had to look perfect and it did. Very good gun handle.
I watched that that as well, I can’t remember if it was part of the video or a documentary. All I remember is how I kept rewinding the video to see how he did it. Very impressive.
Larry Vickers even did a video on the scene, too, and praised it as one of the best handgun scenes ever put to film.
To get that kind of praise from a former Green Beret and Delta operator means that that scene was legit as heck.
Super underrated flick. One of the first feature films to be shot in digital
One of my favorite Cruise movies. I wish he played more bad guys like this, he does it so well.
When Vincent was her building it wasn't a miss chance to kill. The security in that building was the highest of all his targets. He was casing the place out in case he had to kill her there. She was last on the list. Guy falling from the window was chance.
I've always felt this movie doesn't get enough attention. One of my favorites for moods.
This movie caught me off guard with how good it is
This was a very fun one to see in theaters, the gunshots especially are just way up in the sound mix and you could feel them in your chest. For another Michael Mann classic, I would recommend checking out Thief sometime, it was his first feature length film and it's got all of his trademark visual flair right out the gate. Plus a great soundtrack courtesy of Tangerine Dream
Tangerine Dream are phenomenal
Vincent didnt hit his shots cause he aimed for chest double tap, like he always does. Look at the bullet holes. Max hit his shots cause he shot chaotically. Its a metaphor, this movie is full of em.
Mann directed "Manhunter" back in the 80's, which is based on Thomas Harris's novel "Red Dragon", where Hannibal Lecter was introduced. It's fantastic and this one reminds me of that one.
These two actually watched that feature several months back.
Great movie with a nice cameo by Frank Martin, The Transporter.
OG Jason Statham 💯🫡
Born on the Fourth of July truly shows the acting talent of Tom Cruise.
I have a spinal cord injury and I only know what it is to be paralyzed but his portrayal of Ron Kovic shows what it’s like to be paralyzed-everything from the pressure ulcers to the little sideways looks from people in public. I highly recommend Born on the Fourth of July
The answer to the jazz question didn't matter, Vincent was just giving him a sense of hope that there was a way out so that the kill was easier. Does the same thing to Max by suggesting he will survive the night, so that Max doesn't resist him.
Michael Mann is a master filmmaker, and one you should look into the work of way more.
The Insider (2000) and Thief (1981) are my favorite films of his, for sure.
Love the insider
"Public Enemies" and "Blackhat" too.
@@pablom-f8762I don't care for those ones as much, but they're not bad films in the slightest!
@@reservoirdude92Thief is his best work
I also would add 1983 The Keep
I guess it’s all subjective, but this is Tom Cruise’s best performance, imo. So I agree with the husband that he completely immersed himself in the role and it never feels like Cruise playing a bad guy. Cruise WAS Vincent in this film.
What about Edge of tommorow?
@@itzbp9949What about it?
Definately not his same old, same old dashing, handsome hero role.
And he nailed it. Scary, scary, psychopathic part. I was so happy to see him in this role. And that stumble through the window did not look like a stunt to me - i loved that they kept that in. A film full of firsts. I think this is my favorite TC movie. This and BORN ON THE FOURTH OF JULY.
Great reaction - 'really glad you watched this one. 'So much better than all that Marvel/ DC comic-book tripe. Good job.
Jason Stratham cameo at the air port while credited as "man in airport" in the credits was his character Frank Martin in the Transporter movies.
This was comfirmed by both Michael Mann and the director of the 2nd Transporter movie
I have two early Michael Mann movies that you have to put on your must-watch list. THIEF from 1981, and The KEEP from 1983. Both are great on their own and have great music, plus they also have a grade actor in them to boot.
The reason why Vincent didn't hit Max was because he was using his chest/head shot routine and the door was blocking his chest and head while Max was just spraying
I say this all the time. I would have loved to see more Tom cruise play the villain in more movies. He got that right edge and intensity. Great performance here!
Vincent missed because he instinctively went for centre mass on his shots, he hit the middle of the door between them while Max firing aimlessly shot around and through the windows.
This movie is so good. So happy you watched it.
Jamie Foxx really impressed me. (Mellverse just watched Horrible Bosses a few weeks ago and I forgot how funny he was in that. Both of those movies are hilarious if you haven't seen them yet.) It keeps surprising me how good comedians can be at drama. He was so nasty in Baby Driver.
Tom Cruise should definitely do more villain roles.
Mellverse is a moron but even a blind chicken sometimes finds the corn.
@@tutorialslave yeah. He will say something insightful and be emotional or funny and then he will say something that pisses me off and makes me wonder why I ever watch his channel 🙄
@@lkf8799this is why Billy clowns him lol
My mom's the exact same way. She never ever wants anyone to buy her flowers. For any person you care about find out what they like and do that for them. Be creative and thoughtful, it's not always perfect but it's very generous to care for others.
Detective Fanning is definitely dead. Vincent performed his signature Mozambique drill on him. Two in the chest and one in the head though we only see Vincent shooting the head shot. We don't see the impact. The drill is what caused Vincent's downfall on the train. His shots went into the train door because because he was reflex shooting at Max. Max was shooting wildly and hit Vincent by pure luck.
It was Vincent's own fault for been a perfectionist that got himself killed at the end.
The 2 bullets to the chest and 1 to the head is called the "mozambique drill" its to make sure 100% the target is dead.
The final shoot out in the train you see vicent shooting the same technique but the bullets don't go through the metal train door. You clearly see this in a split second. But max just shot randomly and was lucky to land the shots on vicent.
I'd say Tom Cruise is probably the best actor of our generation. There's nothing this bloke can't do.
Michael Bay actually played a thug on an episode of "Miami Vice" before getting into the director's chair.
Such a great villain.
One of the greatest films. I rate this michael mann's third best film after Heat and The Last of The Mohicans.
What a great birthday present, I love this movie and your reactions!
Happy Birthday!
Happy Birthday! I hope you're having a great one.
Jamie Foxx won the Oscar for best actor for Ray and was nominated for best supporting actor for this,
7:43 the way Cruise fans the $600 is just so cool, dude should play more villains
13:49 the theatre where i lived let out a really loud cheer at this part
Not sure if mentioned, Vincent shots were straight and true in the end but when you see Max’s point of view all three shots are in the door, whereas Max shot thru the window
Actually it goes deeper than that. Vincent shots are in the door because he shot like he trained; mozambique style; 2 to the chest and one to the head. His training kicked in but because of the door the shots couldnt get through.
@@happzy I was referring to his training, but kept it more simplistic 😂
@@jonathanmccullouch3243 Yeah I know, but this little gem was actually mentioned by the director in some interview. They purposefully placed the bullet impacts on the door in a way that it shows that he always automatically shoots this way.
@@happzy training I’m familiar with two to the chest one to the head… 👍
Thanks for this watch, FR. A reminder that Tom Cruise is not just mission impossible He's actually a great actor that doesn't do movies like he did before.
It's definitely long and it's definitely polarizing but I would love to see y'all watch Magnolia, even if just to see Tom Cruise in another one of the most pivotal and impressive roles in his career. Not necessarily a bad guy in it but definitely not a good one, lol. Tons of great performances in it, but Tom's range really shines in such a gut-wrenchingly bleak comedy.
I never saw this movie. You made me go watch it before I finished watching your reaction video. THANK YOU for that, I might have never seen this movie and it was definitely worth watching
Favorite Michael Mann Movies:
1) HEAT
2) ALI
3) PUBLIC ENEMIES
4) MIAMI VICE the movie (Jamie Foxx, Colin Farrell)
5) COLLATERAL
What’s interesting in hindsight about this movie is that both the main actors dated Katie Holmes.
You don't get it, it's deeper than that...see once Max pretended to be Vincent, he liked how it felt so he had to become him, had to kill him and search Vincent's life to find a high school sweetheart, Katie Holmes, when Annie moved away cuz of the PTSD stress, Max tracked Katie down and courted her
Max stole Vincent's life and then his woman
Hell ion blame them Shidd Katie was fine then and now lol
Never thought about Cruise playing a BAD GUY, but he killed it in this film. Great actor.
One of my favs..... the way this movie is shot... Miami Vice of the 80's anyone? :)
Tom Cruise played a nut job in a film back before Risky Business. I cannot remember the title of the movie but it was set in a Military Academy. The movie also had Sean Penn and Timothy Hutton.
Taps
@@orlandoaugustostock4578 Thats it! Thank You
Miami Vice is pretty great as a double feature with this movie, it's even more distilled Mann-ish style than Collateral. I think Thief may be my favorite of what I've seen.
I actually love Michael Mann's Miami Vice. It's an amazing film on so many levels...
When you said this might be Tom's best performance I instantly thought of Born on the Fourth of July and Magnolia. This is good but I think Collateral is more of an Eyes Wide Shut sort of performance where the movie over all is the masterpiece and not just him specifically.
Tom Cruise's best acting role? Couldn't agree more. Really an underappreciated gem. Thanks for sharing.
While his movies are more dependable for their action these days it's unfortunate Thomas Cruise Mapother IV doesn't challenge himself as far as roles he's willing to play. His focus is all on the experience for the audience so it's hard to fault him for that. He's probably the last true star and he's passionate about bringing something that audiences can't get anywhere but the movies. I'd argue the last time he tried something different was over a decade ago in 'Rock Of Ages'. 'Collateral' was a real high point in that era of Cruise along with 'Magnolia. 'Collateral' was the last movie before the couch incident. Not sure how things would have progressed had that not happened. 'Tropic Thunder' was a bit of image rehabilitation but after couch-gate I read that he made a decision to make his work the focal point which is why he pretty much sticks to talking movies and his love of them these days. I do wonder if anything would have changed had the Oprah thing not happened. Supposedly Steven Spielberg refused to work with him after that and a lot of people wrote him off completely but now he and Chris McQuarrie are almost inseparable. I find it all fascinating. Clearly.
Man it’s been forever since I’ve seen y’all react. But this is one of my all time favorites. Excited.
Tom Cruise played Stevey Wonder?
Jeez...that dude has *range* .
When I first saw this film, I was actually a taxi driver - 16 years total. Foxx's portrayal of a cabbie is spot on and impressed me quite a bit. Always wondered what prep he did for the role. Several actors drove cab before their acting break like Danny Glover, Jimmy Smits, & Leonard Nimoy - maybe Jaime too?
JMHO .... Cruise is always better when he's playing off other A-list folk. Check him out in The Firm, Legend, Valkyrie, Color of Money, or The Last Samurai.
Brian Dennehy drove cab too.
Michael Mann introduced me to Audioslave music. I will never stop being grateful.
I saw this in theaters. It was much better on the big screen.
Vincent is not a villain. He's honest and hardworking, he's polite and respectful, he's dependable and he has a great work ethic. He doesn't cheat, lie or steal. He's doing a job. And he's probably the best friend or at least the closest thing to a friend that Max ever had. I especially liked the scene where Vincent sticks up for max and defended him from his hack boss/fleet manager.
Arguments?
So as long as you’re getting paid to kill people it’s okay?
To promote Part 2 of Dead Reckoning: Mission Impossible, Tom Cruise should do a cameo cold opening on Saturday Night Live where he plays his character of Ethan Hunt and the catch is he also plays his evil twin brother. Ethan Hunt never knew he had and he has to outwit him before he says: Live from New York it is Saturday Night.
This is the coolest Tom Cruise has ever looked 😎
I dunno if it's been mentioned but there's irony in the story Vincent tells about the guy dying on the subway and no one realizing he was dead and then ends up being the dead body on the train.
I'd be very surprised if the nightclub scene didn't inspire John Wick in some way.
Hopefully You Guys do Training Day Soon Denzel Played The Same Villain Like Tom Cruise it also has a connection
Fun fact: Jason Statham's cameo at the beginning was later confirmed as his Transporter character Frank Martin.
I want a Grand Theft Auto directed by Michael Mann, following Tommy during the Vice City.
@6:23 I know its a movie but in movie reality would he be kicking himself that he didn't just ignore vincent and let him go to another cab or be glad he did because he saved annie (a illogical but potential thing). And now has a really great story to tell.
My cat did get eaten by a coyote when I lived in Huntington Beach. Right outside my front door, crazy sound at 3 AM.
According to Legend: Though credited as Airport Man, Jason Statham's cameo was rumored to be Frank Martin of Transporter fame.
I wonder if Vincent knew John Wick. Would be interesting if there's a crossover of having Vincent cooperate with John.
1:34 Somebody clearly haven't seen Interview with the Vampire for which to this day I believe he should gotten an Oscar Nomination! Cruize was exceptional in that film!
The women Jaime foxx's character saved at end is a witness and Jamie foxx's character for her case
Another Tom cruise villain role, interview with a vampire as Lastat. Best performance (IMO) is in Born on the route of July.
And it’s a three way (giggity) between Collateral, Heat and Thief.
I'd like to see Tom play the villain in the next Expendables movie.
Let Expendables die like the corpse it is
I love that movie and the soundtrack is so fantastic.
Most people often miss his 1st piece of work ..."Thief" '81 🌟James Caan. To date one of my silent favorites. The one that got me hook'd on Mann.
For some reason or another I believe you guys will really love it. 🤨As if I could use the phrase "love it" to describe my sentiments about a Mann film.🤭
I read the script for part two where Max assumes Vincent's identity.
For an early Tom Cruise movie Mrs Movies may enjoy is Born on The Fourth of July. It's one of his only character actor movies
Is there a more terrifying sight than seeing Tom Cruise sprinting full pelt at you with that deranged look on his face? It's what you see when you try leave Scientology.
I like how you pointed out how fate screwed over Max by coming across Max.
One of my favorites, absolutely fantastic film. All of the actors were phenomenal
Love this movie. Michael Mann is the man. Love his work since Miami Vice the series. Best Mann movie is in my opinion Heat followed by Manhunter and The Last of the Mohicans.
Great Performances By Everyone In This Movie
Tom Cruise & Jamie Foxx,Do Have One Thing In Common,Katie Holmes 😂😂😂
in interview with a vampire tom cruise played a great evil villian , highley recommed it
Born on the 4th of July is maybe his best. Fun fact Ben Stiller apparently turned down the cab driver part for making Spanglish
For all the criticism that Vincent gives Max for not being spontaneous, it's what saves Max in the end while being a creature of habit got Vicent killed. Max was finally spontaneous and just fired blindly and got a lucky hit, Vincent did what he always did-- two to the chest and one to the head. Look at the middle of the doors between the train cars there are two holes chest-high and one at head height, by movie rules bullets that hit metal are stopped (even the relatively thin metal of a door like that).
You've got to see Tom Cruise in "Interview with a Vampire" and "Legend"
Damn this movie and soundtrack is so good, Tom Cruise played a very good villain
"Howdy pokes"? Well Mr., you do always wear a Western chapeau!!!
This is like a spiritual sequel to Heat.
Tom Cruise plays another villan in "interview with the vampire". In this one his white hair gives him a different look, but he stills is bad playing the hitman, i mean with the first target he makes a lot of mess, if he was a good hitman the cab didnt note this. And in the end the hitman dies in a shooting against the cab
The policeman played by Mark Ruffalo was shot dead for sure - you can hear three shots, two in the torso and then one more in the head.
I think Tom Cruise in Tropic Thunder is the most Tom Cruise he's ever been.
This is a very good film,also one of Jamie Fox's-BEST-films.The other is-RAY-his-BEST-performance to me. IMHO.Another good action film Fox starred in is-SLEEPLESS. 12 Blocks is another good action/drama with Chadwick Boseman in it.
Loved 12 Blocks
Did you mean 21 Bridges?