Alec Baldwin's culpability in 'Rust' shooting disputed in opening statements
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- Prosecutors argued Alec Baldwin behaved recklessly and "violated the cardinal rules of firearm safety" during the filming of "Rust," while the defense said the actor "committed no crime."
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First rule of gun safety is to always treat it as loaded, point in a safe direction and check, check and check again.
wasn't his fault. the gun malfunctioned as he never pulled the trigger. he said that in an interview.
@@pydiboy it’s irrelevant whether he pulled the trigger or not. If indeed he handled it, it was within his personal power and control to ensure it was made safe with the necessary training he must have had.
@@pydiboy- The FBI said someone had to pull the trigger. They conducted a test on the firearm.
@@phillipnickerson And all firearm experts concurred.
Not an actor's job at all.
Her child has to live through this foolishness. Its disgusting
Not his fault...
In a dream you had
@@firstlast8258Trump won in that dream, too. L.
He was smart to lie from the start. He told two lies and is sticking with them. He said he didn't pull the trigger. He said he would never point a gun at anyone. In order for her to be shot, the gun had to be pointed at her.
Precisely, non culpa
TDS is strong in this one
Not guilty !!! Trial over !!!
He pointed the gun, he fired the gun, he was guilty of manslaughter someone died as a result of his actions. Your comrades ensured far left criminal Alex got away with his crimes but when trump gets back in we will make sure justice comrs
Omg Alan Baldwin didn't do anything it's not his fault at all.
@@imatimetraveler5760 He shot a woman. Let's start with that fact
@@TheLastDeadCathow about the right person is behind bars. The person who failed in their job.
@@melgrant7404 Alec committed manslaughter too
Stupid trial, he is an actor not a prop or safety guy. He has been given and used guns on other movies and no one was killed in those films.
No one was killed in those films because the actor handling the gun is suppose to do ONE last check with the people involved in the scene. The last safety check was missed by the actor in this instance that's why he's negligent, ask any gun safety experts. When someone hands you a gun your suppose to check it, redundancy is not overkill it's part of proper gun handling procedure.
@@powerupboston Yeah, this whole "the actor has no responsibility" thing is lazy.
Baldwin only had to have it loaded, pull the hammer all the way back cause if not that revolver wouldn't fire, then he had to point a firearm at someone, then pull the trigger. If you're going to use something that dangerous it's on you to learn how to be safe while doing so.
There's probably directions from either actors lawyers or safety coordinators given to actors....
For example, once an actor checks all ammo in a prop gun, they are held responsible for any accidentally lethal or non-lethal injury....
On the other hand, if they don't check it, then all responsibility falls on the prop/safety coordinator.
So he is an actor and an armer ?
Would be pretty strange if actors didn’t point the gun at people when acting.
Yeah because someone handling something that dangerous like he has in several films should have no responsibility to learn and use the rules of safety that is there to prevent things like this. Guntubers will pass theirs from one person to another so everyone checks it. If I was told a firearm is clear when making a video then accidentally shoot someone I am responsible. Would you handle say dangerous machinery if you didn't know how to do so safely. Both the armorer and Baldwin is guilty.
@@stevinharper3551 The whole point is to point it at someone. It's a film ffs.
@@ryanmalone2681 you don't say? I couldve swore they would point at the sky than goodness your hear to point that obvious fact. Here's another one if you handle firearms like he has in other movies you should be responsible and learn the rules of firearm safety instead of being lazy and reckless when using firearms. All he has to do when he was handed the gun was open the cylinder and remove the ammo to check if it's blanks or live. Takes no time at all but he isn't paid for those seconds of crucial safety checks so why would he. Guntubers that are so hated cause guns bad pass each one around so each individual person can check and guarantee it's clear. If he isn't going to bother and learn how to be safe with firearms he shouldn't be aloud to touch them. It's crazy law abiding firearm owners are told its too dangerous to have an AR or AK even though we are very thorough and careful because when we started shooting we realized we need to be as safe as possible and take no risks but a celebrity doesn't bother trying to learn what he needs to safely check his own props not trying to shift blame soley on the armorer. She should've have checked and honestly to the level of paranoia then when he was handed the firearm he should have checked the ammo. It's messed up all of you that know nothing about firearms immediately start defending him. When it comes to guns don't just take anyone's word it's clear.
@@ryanmalone2681 That's why they're told to check the gun as soon as their hands are on it. But Baldwin skipped the safety meetings, so woopsy
Actually, they're not supposed to point the gun directly at people when making a movie. This was a rule that was put into effect, after an accidental shooting like this happened, I think in the 30's or 40's on some movie that I don't remember the name of. They have a special technique where they hold the gun at an angle, pointing away from the person, but the camera somehow makes it look like it's pointing directly at the person. I remember this from a field trip I went on as a kid, many years ago to a film studio/museum in Texas. The person giving the tour explained all about this and showed us how they actually hold the gun and how it creates the optical illusion that it's pointing at the person, when it's really not. I don't remember the name of the studio, but it's the place where the Problem Child movies were shot, and where Glen Beck later bought it to use for his network. It was a really cool museum back in the early 90's.
This whole thing is stupid. It was an accident. Why is he being taken a trial all over something that wasn't his fault it's the prop master's fault whoever handled that prop weapon.
I forgot this happen. This whole story is kind of bizarre
The defence of this murderer is bizzare
He looks exhausted. I feel bad for him but 1000 times worse for the victim's family. 😢
If Alec is guilty as a producer wouldnt the other producers be guilty as well✌️
None of them have name recognition. It's a sad commentary but likely the only reason this has gotten this far.
They took plea deals. He admitted guilt through narcissism.
That's for the court to decide assuming the prosecutor can open a case against them. This is Alec's trial, not theirs.
@@WolfHeathen just sayin they are just as guilty for safety on the set of he is. Also whats the point of an armorer if you have to do their job right after they do it. Another thing i heard was he was told to point the gun at her by her and shoot so that she could test how real it looked.i wasnt here and i am not a fan of Alex but im also not a fan of a prosecuter tryin to make a name for themselfs. It seems like this is happening a lot lately✌️
No, because Alex pointed the gun and fired it
What a bogus case, trying to put Alec at fault is crazy
It was a real gun. You always check even if an amorer tells you it's not loaded. It's basic gun safety
@@Ginx-pe4siwhat I recall is that all actors once they are going to be in any film or play or anything where there are guns that they are taught what you just said and that yes irrespective of the armor saying I just checked the gun it's fine the person who has the gun in their hand in the end is still supposed to double-check it themselves and always act as if the gun is loaded and there's no way Alec Baldwin did not know this he had already been in other films using guns .
Also the odd thing is the fact that back when this all first happened some people were saying that poor woman the one who was shot and lost her life had complained about the directors and producers violating basic safety rules and she was not the only one who complained about this and in fact on the day of her demise a number of the crew were not there and had walked away and I also heard that other members of the crew were planning to not show up the next day because of long hours and just the way they were breaking too many rules
@@Ginx-pe4si That's not his job. Actors have to rely on all the professionals around them. Just like it's not their responsibility to check safety harnesses or check that explosives were properly set up during a stunt.
@@IvanNano-p3oonly he's also the producer and responsible for hiring an incompetent armorer. There were several complaints that went ignored before this happened. Crew members even quit because of how unsafe they felt. So while he didn't purposely kill her, he does play a part in what happened.
Also not taking any responsibility and acting like a victim in his interview after this happened speaks volumes. Of course he would have had to pull the trigger for it to go off. You can't just lie about that and think you can get away with it. No one thinks he meant to kill her or for that to happen but he is a piece of the puzzle to how Helena unfortunately lost her life.
This was an accident, how crazy he is on trial!
Uhh he killed someone on set.
Uhhh, he k!lled someone on set.
@@hunterjackman17uhhhh it was an accident
Judy: Do you NOT know that accidents can also be criminal negligence?
If you killed someone in a car accident, would you not be charged?
This is weird, when Branden Lee fell to this no one was arrested. Now actors need to do extra to protect themselves on set #simple
It's because after that, the SAG instituted all these rules and none of them were followed. Baldwin was required to attend safety meetings and keep up with firearm safety training and people are saying he didn't. And unlike Baldwin, Masse actually felt terrible and guilty that he stopped acting for a year.
The two accidents are similar but there's a significant difference. It should also be noted that the gun that killed Brandon Lee was loaded with the proper ammunition both times it was fired.
The first time, a projectile was dislodged from one of the blank rounds, getting stuck in the barrel. Two weeks later, the gun was used again and loaded with another set of blanks. The first shot had enough energy to push the blockage out of the barrel, killing Brandon.
The difference here is that Halyna Hutchins was killed by a real live round that had no place being on a movie set to begin with.
Guilty! He was more or less the Boss on the film set. And gun safety is your responsibility. That gun is in your hands you are responsible.
The prosecutor needs to have her ego checked. Tf is she thinking going forward with this?
You and BaldWuins Pro murder defenders need to be held accountable for this, manslaughter is a valid charge in any historical case, Baldwin stormed out of the court, lied about not firing the gun, lied about not aiming the gun, you the judges and the jury needs arrested for treason and contempt of court. Baldwin is going to kill someone else in a far left rage
It's the person who loaded the guns fault! Not his! I dont understand this.
Absolutely.
Alec Baldwin is not a professional Armorer. The ARMORER is responsible for making sure no live ammunition is on set; Not the actor!
Lol,Stephen Baldwin in the background 🤣‼️
I thought that was william
@disastermaster1413 no it was Stephen, look closely, lol 🤣⁉️
@@GODLETMEWINAMEN william has more sense not to be involved
Refreshing to hear about different news other then politics
As a producer Baldwin helped create an unsafe set by hiring an inexperienced armorer and then piled on extra prop responsibilities to the ONE crew member who must NOT be distracted from doing their job correctly.
If weapons safety is handled correctly on a set, then even an actor with absolutely NO experience with guns would never be given a weapon that could hurt someone accidentally.
That judge who says Baldwins status as a producer cannot be taken into account as to his guilt was paid off. its that simple.
As an actor why would he suspect a loaded gun to be handed to him? I wouldn't ! This is a ridiculous proceeding and accusation.
If he really didn't know, then let the guy go. He had no intention to shoot anyone right. Where did the bullet come from?
He shouldn't be liable for someone else mistake.
What I don't get is why he was pointing the gun directly at her. I thought there was supposed to be a law against that. When I was a kid in the early 90's I went on a girl scout field trip to the studios at Las Colinas in Irving TX. It was such a cool place. They filmed lots of different famous movies and TV shows there, like the movie Problem Child, for one. They had a museum that we toured and it was a lot of fun. At one point, the tour guide showed us prop guns and she explained that they have a special technique for shooting guns in movies, where they don't point the gun directly at the other person, and instead point it at a diagonal angle, slightly to the side of them, in a way where the camera creates an optical illusion that makes it look like it's pointed at them. She said that there's some kind of rule, or maybe an actual law, (I don't remember,) that was put into place about this, after a guy had been shot on a movie set, I think, in the 20's or 30's. But I can't find anything about that shooting, when I try to look it up, so I'm wondering if the law is actually what I thought it was, (that they have to point the gun away from the person,) or if the tour guide actually said that that shooting is what brought about the law that they have to have dedicated prop guns on set, instead of real ones. And I think they also said that no one is allowed to point any kind of gun at anyone on a set, even if it is a prop gun with blanks. I thought they had this whole issue of using guns in movies figured out decades ago. I always remembered that field trip from so many years ago because it was so much fun and I learned so much. Naturally, it was the first thing that jumped to mind when I found out about this movie set shooting.
The one guilty in in prison. Let him go.
He’s an actor. He should trust the people around him when it comes to a gun…..BS I cant imagine being in a John wick movie and having Keanu reeves checking every gun. Seriously!
Agree.
Sounds like a pissed off woman, gonna show them.
I am under the impression that the person in charge of this firearm MIXED live bullets with inert bullets. Even I know that that is grossly irresponsible. So why is Baldwin responsible for this tragedy. Am I right or wrong ?
The unionr rules say that live ammunition CAN'T be on set. The armorer has already been convicted. As for Baldwin being charged, think of it like this. You kill someone with a car and that was a tragic accident, would you still be charged or not? Plus the union rules (and common sense firearm safety) also state to always treat guns like they're loaded,
The Armor and the person who gave the gun to Alec changed the bullets in the gun it was reported that one of them had multiple magazines with real bullets and another magazine with fake bullets and someone took multiple real bullets and mixed them with fake bullets
Revolvers do not have magazines.
@@bargeman100 I think they mean the containers they took the ammo from
Why weren’t detectives on scene or other police by now?
Guilty and Period.
How? How was he supposed to know the gun was loaded?
But But he’s a Hollywood Actor. There’s no way the jury is going to convict him. 😖
And who are you?
He isn't
@philliphenickerson He is innocent
A similar thing happened before on a movie set where live rounds were used accidentally, which resulted in the death of actor Brandon Lee. I don't believe any criminal charges were filed against the movie makers.
zero convictions over that one. this time they really want to punish someone for it even though it obviously wasn't on purpose.
Again I thought this was over 😢
Leave the man alone !!! This whole trial is crazy !!!! 😮😮😮😮
Wow it's a shame you haven't done the research as a number of us did in the past and while I don't remember everything yes believe it or not he is guilty because well just do the research and read other comments this is just too exhausting explaining it repeatedly to people
As a child I was taught never to point a gun at someone unless you intend to shoot
This trial demonstrates how incredibly dumb the New Mexico prosecutors are determined to be. Actors point guns at people all the time. Actors have been accidentally shot on film productions, with no one being charged for what clearly was an accident, The armorer handed Baldwin a "prop" gun, that she, herself, loaded improperly. She was responsible. This trial is the height of stupidity. Baldwin is neither negligent nor guilty. Period. And when his lawyers bring in production people from Hollywood to educate the jury, but particularly the prosecutors, on how prop guns are used on set ... this sham trial will be over. The reckless guilty party is now in prison. End of story.
Sorry. No expert testimony allowed. Just like in trumps trial.
I agree with the person who said: “I thought this was over.” I heard that Baldwin was NOT going to be charged with this, as well.
His crime is negligent and not checking his weapon after it was handed over rule 1
It’s a movie
Negligence doesn’t rely on such terms.
Not his job to.
@@melgrant7404 gun safety is everyone’s job that handles a firearm. But seeing as cringe lords don’t care, feel free to play in traffic.
@@YooperICE the person loading that gun was ultimately responsible.
When the armorer was begging to the judge at trial before sentencing she said something really weird…..the conditions she had to work under and the ???….??? Sounded like she was blaming the producer, director?? Must be a story there
yeah guns dont go off unless triger pulled..
Maybe the prosecutor didn’t appreciate Baldwin’s performances on SNL. Ridiculous criminal charge
Didn't he hire and pay what he refers as having "nothing to do with"?....
A weapon that can fire a live cartridge isn't a "prop" gun. It's a gun, just like the ones cops carry, capable of killing another human being, and the last person who could have saved her life failed to check the firearm before pointing it at her and deliberately pulled the trigger.
Guilty. 5 yrs for manslaughter
Of course, Alec Baldwin is exempt from gun safety rules that apply to everyone else.
Anti-gun clowns should not become rich and famous co-splaying a competent adult.
This case is ridiculous.
Alec didn't go there to shoot a person; he went to shoot a movie.
That's his job.
It was an 'on the job' accident and he should have no charges against him.
If anything this should be an OSHA thing.
He should wear his Trump costume and give himself a pardon
Just how did a live round get inside that gun? And just how does a gun fire when the trigger was not pulled? Makes me think somebody is lying. These are important questions that need answers. I think this entire trial will unfold, and these questions will never be answered.
World gone insane !!! Alec Baldwin does NOT deserve this !!! Its crazy ...
34 felonies because his accountant labeled a payment to a lawyer as a legal fee.
As an extra on major movies for 25 years, this isn’t Alecs fault. However some of the crew had quit over safety concerns and as Alec is a producer on this project he has some responsibility.
There's probably directions from either actors lawyers or safety coordinators given to actors....
For example, once an actor checks all ammo in a prop gun, they are held responsible for any accidentally lethal or non-lethal injury....
On the other hand, if they don't check it, then all responsibility falls on the prop/safety coordinator.
Until now nobody knows who is responsible of handling that gun.
That’s the job of his lawyer- just got to blow enough smoke to confuse one juror and job done. Mr. Baldwin fired the gun that killed one person and wounded a second. He was negligent, and needs to be held accountable.
I think the issue is that he was one of the producers so that his culpability is broader than just being an actor. So in other words he was not just an actor, but he was also technically the armorer and first assistant directors boss. So the fact that they were using the guns to shoot live rounds on there off days would be an issue as well. If he was just an actor then it would be much easier to say he was innocent.
All he needed to do is admit that the accident was partially his fault and this would have all bin over but he never wanted to take responsibility for his actions. He needs to take responsibility for what he did.
why are people acting so dumb about a revolver cant go off without pulling the trigger? Its a revolver that you can pull the hammer back and the gun can go off. you dont need to pull the trigger at all especially on a revolver.
As I have said many many times. Alec Baldwins father was a law enforcement firearms training officer. He himself has admitted that he knew the rules of firearms safety.
Not the same on a movie set! Safety precautions are taken on different levels below the actors and actresses so the movie can be made safely!
He’s an actor, it’s his JOB to be unsafe!
The rules of firearm safety are simple. 1. Treat every firearm as if it is loaded. 2. Every person who handles the firearm should inspect it and clear it. 3. In all cases revert to rules 1 and 2.
You know what sucks about being a Baldwin...?
Actors are actors not gun specialists. Armored is credentialed and trained re guns ; actors are not. Not guilty.
My fire arms training, I was taught that you ALWAYs treat EVERY fire arm as loaded. I am no expert, but IMO, Mr. Baldwin, should have cleared the pistol’s action when he received the firearm immediately from the armorer, even though the armorer just cleared I. It’s just like a military drill: You do it the same exact way irregardless whether it is live or just practice! That way it becomes a habit! Once a (good) habit is established, gun safety is improved immensely!
I dont think Alec Bladwin is a very likable guy, but I also think this case is nonsense, should have never been brought and the DA and prosecutors should be removed from their jobs for pursuing such nonsense.
It was the job of the person whose job it was to ensure the safety of forearms on set to ensure safety and check all those things.
Well let's hope this movie isn't a flop!
I am alive.
We're lucky he didn't shoot Sean Connery or Scott Glenn in that sub movie.
THE RESPONSIBILITY FALLS ON THE WEAPON MASTER FOR THE SAFETY OF THE FIREARMS
ALEC BALDWIN AS A PRODUCER FAILED TO KEEP THE CREW SAFE ON LOCATION
APPARENTLY HE WAS JOKING AROUND WHICH WASN'T PROFESSIONAL HE SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE MANSLAUGHTER IS JUSTIFIED
what about the lady that got rid of the pullets while the incident happen. What about the man that had a messy home and he claimed to clean the bullets. What ever happen to them. Why are they all being easy on them as well.
When is rust coming out?
Why is Baldwin wearing Buddy Holly type glasses?? Trying to look smarter than he is??
not too particular of him, but I don't think it's negligence, negligence would be like taking the gun beforehand before any of them saying anything to him assuming that it was fake/cold and used it as he pleased ... if he had done that then he should've practiced caution and checked but he didn't do that so I don't think it's negligence
Video behind the film seemed like a mess, makes me think it's result one death, was likely, and the overall set was part of negligence.
Should have been in jail 2 years ago.....
Send him to jail
Amen
Stop
Lock up fake trump
Right now lol
Bowling should’ve been wearing his glasses maybe then he wouldn’t have shot her
Was drug and alcohol test done
On script, as much as I disagree with Alec Baldwin politically, he's not guilty
85% of commenters have never held a gun let alone been in One’s presence 😂gun spooky bad
Hey Alec, might wanna give Troma a call after this trial!
BALDWIN IS A DAM GOOD ACTOR !!!!!!!!!!!!! DOES HE HAVE TO LOOK AFTER PROPS AS WELL, DOES ANY ACTOR HAVE TO......AT ALL?????????????????????????????????????????????
Free our brother Alex.
Yes he did he violated every rule of firearm training.
With in a reasonable doubts GUILTY
Not his fault and he is truly remorseful
GUILTY!!!!!!!!
03:33 lol I think he knows how to do that after all he has like 12 kids.
Lock him up
It's starting to sounds like he's been setup for a this crime, Does someone hate him, in the film industry ?
Handing him a loaded prop gun, why was there a real bullet in the prop gun, and why wasn't the gun checked and re-checked for safety.
I fell someone failed but pointing
Not sure what you're saying here , but he never should have pointed the gun since they weren't filming and he was supposed to check it beforehand anyway -- which he did not do -- and HE KNEW THAT even if an armorer gives you a gun , the actor who has the gun in their hand in the end and is going to use it for a scene , must check it .
Also , he did not do this and there was no reason for him to point his gun at that poor woman .
It is a FACT that she had COMPLAINED to the authorities that the directors and producers were violating a number of safety rules .... Alec Baldwin was both a producer and a director for that film . 😮
Also a number of people have written and said that there were a number of crew members who walked off the set earlier in the day of that poor woman's demise and that more we're going to walk off the next day because of violating safety rules and also trying to make them work longer hours than they were supposed to .
I spent a lot of time researching all this at one point but that was a while back and I don't remember everything but once you really start researching everything you can understand that safety was not important and there just seemed to be a disregard for treating people properly
DOES ALAC HAVE REMORSE.
I'm in law enforcement I've seen cases like this when ppl are handling guns and he's 100% guilty on shooting the cinematographer he shot her and he needs to be held accountable for his actions...he keeps saying he didn't pull the trigger well how did it go off because he PULLED the trigger... he's in denial he doesn't want to come to terms with he actually killed someone... rather accident or not he needs to own up to his mistake...plain and simple
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Dont feel sorry for democrats. Send him to jail
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The guy is a flake
He nevers takes responsibility for anything
For someone else's job.
Democrat logic:
Alec Baldwin shoots woman in face: its an accident
President Trump's accountant marks down legal expense: throw him in jail for 100 years 🤣🤣
THE ÇROW BRANDON LEE
He's totally responsible