Hybrid is amazing I just sold my 2023 Honda score hybrid sport and after selling my Porsche cayenne turbo s and I loved it, I sold it and now I own a 2025 Honda hr-v as my daily of course, I can’t complain but the hybrid accord was and is awesome
@@GomezMotorSport does your hybrid Accord rev to redline when going 85mph up a mountain? I'm worried about those new hybrids that tend to do that a lot. If it does then i think a hybrid needs to have a lot more power just to be on par with a regular gas car for out of state travel.
@@waterloo123100 Literally the only similarities are that the headlights are nice and they're the only nice looking non-crossovers on the market. Otherwise it doesn't look like a Prius at all. You're simply wrong.
@@Parker--They literally had to change the original concept vehicle because it looked too much much like a Prius. It doesn’t look good at all your opinion just doesn’t make sense.
It's a horrible looking car. Freaking Honda don't listen.... Not a great idea if it's competing with itself. Think about what made the last prelude fail... Well as long as it's fast.
@@Jeremy_Hill_2020 My Integra type s is a full 1000lbs lighter than a tlx and has 35 less hp. Not the same thing bud. Do you have any idea how large the tlx really is??
Bro, that’s what I’ve been saying. Everyone keeps talking about. This is just like the CRX bro I haven’t seen a single CRX on the fucking road in my entire life. The CRX was not a good fucking achievement. It was an even achievement at all.
This is much different than before. It’s not based on the Accord. It’s a Civic coupe, basically. This is an affordable entry coupe. I don’t think an aspirational vehicle is what Honda needs atm, particularly a car.
@@Michael-ur5qb That's a mute point, the Accord and Civic have been on the same platform for the last two generations. This is meant to be a sporty GT car.
@@waterloo123100 Honda has implied that the Prelude will be built on a new lightweight platform and have an optional 67hp rear motor, so that might still be true
High end technology has a different meaning nowadays compared to the 90s. I'm happy to take any 90s high tech feature any day of the week but not necessarily all modern high tech features on a new car.
Without a manual option at this kind of power level, just not interested. Seems like a missed opportunity to offer a two door, manual, 2 liter turbo, affordable enthusiast option.
I'm interested precisely *because* they're not saddling it with a slow, thirsty, and polluting manual. Some "missed opportunity" to sell to the 7% of buyers stuck in the past.
@@logwind as much as you disagree, there is truth to it. They are not making money catering to a vocal minority who does not make the overall buyer base for their cars, i mean ya'll even say anything just above 10k-20k is "overpriced"
@@slimslimee4411 I agree that manuals are a niche market. I disagree that they're "slow, thirsty, and polluting". that just sounds like leftist green propaganda.
Wonder if this will be a comments section of “enthusiasts” who will find any reason not to buy this so they can complain about automakers not making cars like this once it’s been cancelled for poor sales. We’re getting a new small coupe with 200hp and 50 mpg. What is there to complain about?
No enthusiast ever asked for a Hybrid coupe with simulated gearbox. A coupe? Yes. Manual? Yes. But not an auto hybrid coupe. Look, as good as Ionic's simulated gearbox is, that's a solution for an EV that doesn't even have a gearbox. The 86 is selling pretty well. Managers always expect sales growth as if people change cars every year, so maybe it's a disappointment from that perspective; but in real world, the sales are fine.
As a CR-Z owner and lover, I'm very hyped about the Prelude. I can picture myself driving one in 2036 and getting asked "wow what car is that? I've never seen thad Honda" every day.
@@AdrianHernandez-ok6mzThey were based on accord platforms but their styling was actually after the mustang and Camaro. Short rear deck, long hood, low cowl. That has always been the prelude design language. This new one looks....weird.
Hybrids are very very reliable, it’s honestly the way to go. Hybrids can add more power, save on gas, and tend to be more reliable than gas cars. It’s not an “EV” no need to charge hybrid vehicles
The written out logo change is for the Chinese market where consumers are unlikely to recognize the regular logo since they haven’t had these brands in large numbers til relatively recently
tf are you talking about? Honda entered Chinese market back in the 80s, start with motorcycles production, then built cars in the 90s. Honda is a household name in China todays. Honda used their logo in China just like everywhere else, they put the Chinese name on the side with the logo at the center in China. The reason Honda uses "letter logo" on the back is .... copying Porsche?? I dunno ┐( ˘ ､ ˘ )┌
Hot take: The push to EVs is NOT to save the planet. It is to prevent you from having the freedom to drive. Hence the lack of a steering wheel in the EV concept you called out. 😬
Pushing the driver out of the car is a simultaneous but unrelated development to the rise of EVs. ICE cars can be made boring and autonomous, too. They've been heading that way for a while. Major advancements in autonomous driving (machine vision, LIDAR, massively parallel processing) just happened to occur at the same time as major advancements in EV tech (new battery chemistries, large-scale cell manufacturing, regenerative speed controllers & control systems).
And the car only functions when it's allowed, can be remotely disabled, and can't be recharged during a blackout. Safe plebs are preferable to free risk takers.
The Prius is expensive and comes in 4 doors, if anything it has competition in the Civic Hatchback and already loses based on the sales and quite frankly is an easier car to live with.
This is not a mistake. The Prelude is a car for going on dates with the girls and cruising with one hand on the wheel. It's not like the Type R crowds.
I had a full drag race 4th gen that made 800 hp 23 years ago. Favorite car ever. It started as a 4 wheel steering daily driver and I converted it to a 2.2 Vtec and eventually made it fill tube chassis. I miss it soooo much.
Hybrid makes a lot of sense. From a consumer and a car company perspective. Plus unfortunately barring niche markets non hybrid isn’t an attractive proposal for most buyers.
The problem is that people who drive hybrids do so because a car is A-to-B for them and they want to save money. They're not looking to buy an unpractical 2-door coup. This just shows how out of touch Honda is -- they haven't learned anything from the failure of the NSX reboot.
The vast majority of the public will buy this BECAUSE it's a hybrid and sporty looking. Most people in the market for a brand new daily and want a prius, dont really have any asthetic options and are not car people in the first place. This thing will sell like HOTCAKES. Sidenote, it's just a civic hybrid coupe. This is why it came to market so quick. Its just a different body on the same platform.
Exactly! Not currently in the market for a new car, but this will be at the top of my list the next time I am bc I will never buy a full gas car & want something with some sporty character
The Honda Prelude was always a platform for bleeding edge tech. The 5th gen had an early FWD version of the SH-AWD system that later debuted on the 2005 Acura RL. So seeing this 6th gen Prelude with a performance gas electric hybrid system for a vehicle many can afford makes sense. And having a sporty coupe in Honda’s current lineup is great to see.
I still like the look of the 4th gen Prelude the best, but this one looks damn good in my opinion. Way better than their awful new Integra and Civic designs.
I think it would be interesting to see Honda do a little experiment and sell it with a non hybrid option for a year. If the non hybrid option sells better, then thatll show them that a hybrid/electric car aint what people want. If hybrid sells better, then sure, they can double down on it and get rid of the non hybrid option. It certainly feels like these companies are just going all in on electric and hybrid on these sports cars without even seeing what the target audience actually wants.
I think this is gonna be a fun dynamic car. The new Civic Hybrid is great, the same powertrain is in the Accord & CR-V. The CR-V is AWD, so this is possible for the Prelude. I think the S+ Shift feature will be exactly like the Ioniq 5 N's simulated gearbox. Honda's hybrid system already has NO transmission. SavageGeese on RUclips goes pretty in depth, including a track test of the Civic Hybrid.
This is the car people really want. Looks good. Rides nice. Sporty 'enough'. Great gas mileage. Honda reliability. AWD, for people who lives where it snows. Makes it a fantastic daily car. So glad Honda didn't focus on 0-60 times, or track capabilities, etc. 99.9% of people don't care about that. Now, all Honda has to do to make this a success, is NAIL THE PRICING. If this is some $60k luxury pos, it won't sell. But I'll be first in line if it's close to $30k.....
i was holding out hope that it would have a manual option. as my first car was an 86 Prelude Si, they have a place in my heart. not completely sure how i feel about it, but at least it is a hybrid, not an EV...
Prelude, vtec, manual, and easy to install stuff for tuners… that would be ideal. Maybe hybrid vtec for low end torque and fuel efficiency but looks are great, no need for lower case letters tho, that’s not ok in any circumstance. I’d like one but I’m so hooked on the FL5 Type R look, I’m gonna see what my buddy thinks and if it’s possible to get one off his dealership for msrp
@@Katchalata I have a blue 5th gen in the garage as well but I daily the 4th gen because it’s just more fun to drive with the all wheel steering and digital dash. 5th gen interior is pretty basic like a civic
Japanese brands made the best cars in the 90s… Now they just make uninspiring SUVs & sedans with CVTs n 4 cylinders, PHEVs, & EVS. This could have been a perfect Accord coupe predecessor - But no…
I love all of the Honda Prelude generations especially the 2001 model I had a silver 01 SH H22 with a AEM intake , HP header back straight pipe to HP exhaust , carbon fiber head and taillights , on 19' inch HP rims with some slight head work and other carbon goodies I ABSOLUTELY LOVED THAT CAR !
David if you’re ever in the Philly or NJ area I will have both second gen Camaro and k swapped insight for you to try! Should be finishing the insight this spring/summer!
@hungryalien Ahead of which time. Sport compact and hybrid is the wrong combination. Sport compact should be light weight, and hybrid battery add a lot of weight. Plus it's much harder to modify a hybrid if it's possible.
@@JuanRodriguez-wx9sq crz was a proof of concept and not a replacement for the likes of EG/EK hatchbacks. as with mods, mugen and hpd both made a supercharger kits with ecu tune for it.
Fun fact, the 3rd gen prelude was available in a Si 4WS trim that came with mechanical 4 wheel steering as opposed to the electrical found on the 4th gen. I have a family member that had one
I wish they would simulate the classic Honda "weecheechee" starter sound for startup and the classic straight cut reverse gear "waaaaaa" sound. Something subtle that if someone wasn't really paying attention, they wouldn't notice, but those who are more familiar with old Honda might. I'll love Preludes and I'm a little excited to see the name return. One of the first cars I really clicked with was my mother's 1986 Prelude 2.0 Si.
This generation of Honda's sporty cars are terrible. Over priced, under powered, and the dealer markups just make it insulting. "Pay 40k for a 4-door Integra A-Spec that will get smoked by a stock GR86." Why?
@@Indacouch-li8jp”Dedicated” is a strong word especially since they’re blowing themselves up…and Honda has also made sport cars he’s not talking about a civic.
@@Indacouch-li8jp if we're strictly speaking apples to apples, A-Spec integra is very comparable to a GTI Autobahn, and a WRX Limited. All practical, 4 door, compact sports cars. Price wise, all around 40k, power wise, GTI has 40 more, WRX has 70 more, and AWD. What's the appeal of the Integra at that point, other that personal preference? You can't even stage 1 an Integra/Civic without upgrading the clutch. Just a lot less bang for your buck, hell, you can get an Elantra N with a great DCT, and 76 more hp for 5k less. I'm not a Honda hater, I just don't understand their current direction.
I admit a longing for the "old" days. Late 80's and early 90's Hondas still have a special place in my heart. Facelifted gen 3, and the gen 4 Preludes are my fave. While a far cry from modern hybrids for mileage and acceleration, the oldies got it done with light weight.
I daily a manual Honda cr-z which is an electric assisted motor which basically the new prelude would be doing something similar to and I love driving my cr-z and as David said yes,it is quite peppy and fun to drive. As far as the S+ as crazy as it sounds, my CRZ also has this right at the corner of the steering wheel and you push it to get a five second boost from the electric motor and it is quite exhilarating when it kicks in 😂.. I will be k swapping it though in the future that was the whole reason for me buying the car in the first place.
The new Honda hybrid system has no transmission, the engine is only directly connected to the wheels during a very limited range of speeds. I expect the S+ Shift to be similar to the fake shifts on the Ioniq6N
It will be awesome. It's a good type of hybrid. Logical, efficient, adds power, adds torque, and hopefully has Honda reliability. Everything that makes owning a Honda special. But what will it cost? And when will they have a type s? How much will that cost? Should be playing similar to the new civic hybrid 200+HP. Under 2900lbs?
@@andycalifornia426 If they were gonna use that front end... I mean, what would they have done with the original S2000? Put the headlights and grill of a '98 Civic on it? It's an S2000, not a RWD Civic!
I can't help but wonder if Honda will use the Integra or the Prelude chassis when it makes its way into the arena of NASCAR. As a Prelude BB6 owner, I'm stoked for it. My dad had a first gen Prius so that may help, too. My mom has the 2018 HRV and I enjoy the sport mode with CVT. Having paddle shifts for engine braking is nice, too; yet, nothing is quite like a smooth rev match. I just hope the service manual isn't too bonkers and it can still be worked on. ⛩
When I saw the concept I was stoked, I like two door coupes, and my wife has a 2023 Accord hybrid that we love. When it was rumored to have a manual I even went to the dealership to see if they had any information…I’ll buy a manual version, but I don’t think this transmission sounds like it’ll actually make for a sporty car
I hope the hybrid becomes-as you mentioned about torque-part of the excitement of driving rather than a sacrifice for economy. The NSX had, from what I hear, a fantastic hybrid system. It looks fantastic, especially for a $35k sports coupé with Honda quality.
10:40 - ngl I had a Prius as my rental recently and it's honestly a great daily. I mean, I was getting 60MPG and it has all of the driver assists you'd want. It wasn't a dog either. It'd be a great car if you have a two car setup so you can have the practical daily and a not practical fun car.
This powertrain will just be the same hybrid setup that's in all their other current vehicles, I will be shocked if they will be able to tune it to give a "sporty" shifting response since I doubt the initial design ever considered any type of conventional sporting feel.
my dad had a 90s prelude the transmission in those are insane lasted him about 500k miles and he had to do a motor swap cuz his old one blew up and he put a 1j in it this seems sick and its a super good car
@@Ty420 If it has a clutch pedal, like mentioned in the comment you replied to, then it'd be a manual. No clutch pedal = automatic. If by paddle shifter equivalent of a clutch, you mean like how F1 uses hand operated clutches, well that's not coming to the street.
@@usefulidiot21 No, i meant more like electronic. You’re not actually moving the clutch, you’re just telling the car you want to shift and then it shifts when it feels appropriate. Hence the “isn’t really manual”. I didn’t mean anything to do with paddle shifters that’s just what I felt was the quickest way to describe it.
@@Ty420 So would that have a clutch pedal like the original comment stated? Because only manual transmissions have a clutch pedal and everything thing else is just some variation of an automatic (which is what it sounds like you're describing).
@@usefulidiot21 A simulated clutch pedal, hence being electronic and not mechanical. Because I just can’t imagine honda putting a real manual in a hybrid in 2025.
So Honda stopped selling the Civic Coupe because "low sales volumes" but this new Civic Coupe Hybrid with a Prelude sticker is completely fine.... Sorry Honda but this combined with your piss poor 1.5 oil leaking disaster is why i dumped you all a long time ago.
If Honda can get this to be genuinely fun to drive, even with an automatic, it will be one of the best coupes available today. All they need to do is make the "S+ Shift" even half as enjoyable to use as something like the GTI's DSG -- which, looking at their track record of making amazing shifters and transmissions, really shouldn't be difficult.
Love how Honda and Toyota switch between one making hits and one taking Ls. Toyota is making hit after hit, so it looks like Honda is starting their Ls
So, did the press release mention where the two Motors will be located? You can assist an engine with a single motor. A whole lot cheaper, lighter and just as effective. Which is typically Honda's route. So are they going to be on the front wheels, or the rear. People have been screaming for AWD in a performance Honda for a long time. If they go on the rear, then doesn't that give us a backward NSX? With a bit less ICE. I haven't noticed the other manufacturers logo. I worked for Honda for almost three decades, and the new logo reminded me of the original from the 60s. Minus the slight cursive curve. The unframed short H appears to be throw back style as well. They named it the Prelude with the intention of it being the test mule. VTech, 4ws.. We were disappointed four wheel steering didn't stick😂 The Subaru svx was an "odd car experience" in itself. That's a steering wheel you'll never forget
I'm happy to see more companies bringing back older models. With the Honda/Nissan venture and with Mitsubishi probably following, both of those companies could have the ability to bring others back. A new 240sx and a new proper Eclipse or Evo. Either way it's nice to still have something exciting to look forward to.
Civic Type R: sedan Integra Type R: sedan Prelude: Hybrid and CVT Honda has lost touch completely. Need a high revving gas engine with 6 speed transmission. Something the people want, not what the EPA wants.
Years ago I had a black ‘87 Si in my 20’s. I always told myself I’d buy the Prelude if they brought it back. I’m hesitant initially, but I suppose I can be convinced if it’s fun to drive
The prelude i think was most famous for beating ferrari and other high end sports cars in the 700 yrd slalom. The hood was so low, it was lowers than an mr2's hood. It could handle transitions really well, making it a great touge car. Even the 4th gen could beat an S2000 on touge, look at JUN racings prelude. Keep the bells and whistles off the car, make it do something amazing for drivers. Make it a small light nimble performer. Make history memorable for honda.
Well having owned a 5th gen SH Prelude for over 20 years, I'm excited for its return, but sad that you can't row the gears and it looks so sleek and not an angular long hood cab-back design like almost all previous Preludes.
If Honda had any sense in their heads, the new prelude would have a high output 4 no turbo standard and a turbo upgrade. All the hybrid does is add cost and puts this car over 30 grand.
There might be some sort of Si version down the line. The hybrid system is shared with the Civic, CR-V, & Accord which brings costs down. I'm just glad it's gonna be for sale. It's a damn good looking car, & if it comes down to Prius or Prelude, I know what I'm taking.
Yeah, except there is almost zero market for that. 90% of car buyers don't care about hp ratings. They care about size, mileage, and cost. You can whine and cry for years, but v8s are dying out for a reason.
@shikamaru281281 I think the Honda civic SI was a very good package when it was under 25 grand, most dealers couldn't get enough to sell. As far as V8s go, if an automaker can build a coupe under 30 grand with a V8 I think it would sell like crazy.
@@phantomflame0658 I mean... what torque converter or DCT automatic hybrids exist? The slim minority of Hyundai/Kia HEV-AT vehicles and (?) The ZF 8/9-speed Hybrid Plus transmission was dropped before seeing any kind of large-scale production. I don't believe any DCT hybrid powertrains exist. The first-gen Honda insight had a MaNuAl (one of the largest of the many reasons for its downfall.)
@@tim3172 Honda NSX, BMW M5, many many others. By hybrid I mean the use of electrical assistance by extra motors and often times the starter. In FWD applications like this new prelude it can be a standard engine, with the rear motors being electric. I think we are confusing terms here because obviously I did not mean a hybrid like a Prius. Either way I hope it's that and not just a CVT with fake shifting as that is quite frankly gay
@@larryc1616speak for yourself, people don’t buy Honda’s sports cars for straight line speed. The target demographic for a car like this does not want a hybrid powertrain. However, i can concur that it’ll probably make it sell better with the normal daily-driver non car enthusiast market.
Always loved the prelude. I just wish instead of doing a hybrid with this thing they'd do a souped up, rejuvenated version of they're 3.5 litre V6 and slap in it. I miss old honda
The Prelude is just a friendly reminder to me to hurry up and buy a Type R while I still can. The CTR/ITS won't be around for too much longer, and basically the Prelude is going to become the only "sporty" Honda on sale.
I had a 1998 Prelude SiR and it was the first rolling burnout machine I ever owned... I could just drop the clutch and it would roll through 1st - 3rd gear just shredding the tires. Sadly it was short lived solely because I needed a pickup and ended up trading it in on a 1998 Ford F150.
As a previous Acura/Honda fan I don't care for it; not even interested in it. Honda at this point has little to no cars to offer in coupe format so it's another reason not to buy a Honda/Acura. 4 door family sedans and SUVs are the common norm nowadays and I'd be surprised if it even sells. All the cool 2 door coupe cars are extinct in Honda’s lineup and I think this will become the next on that list, again. I think this is another “nostalgic” car for the old millennials/Xers from back in those days. 99% of them are married w/children now and I’d be surprised if any of them bought this car. Furthermore, they’re running out of ideas so they’re bringing back a car from the dead only for it to die again.
There's nothing that car manufacturers to do to make me interested in a new car. Even the GR86 has issues with oil pan gaskets that the manufacturer wont even recall and fix. I will find the old cars, and continue to restore them until my body gives out.
3:08 even if it's *not meant for performance.* I have a 2002 Prius - 258 lb-ft of torque straight from 0 RPM. It's pure joy surprising people at stoplights with my 0-30 performance. Just a few days ago, I was in front of one of those massive diesel pickups at a stop sign. Floored it and left him in the dust up to about 20.
I owned and loved my 5th gen for more than 7 years. It had its ups and downs but in the end one of my favorite Hondas I’ve had. I’ve had a lot. I don’t think they will be able to capture that love and feeling that people had for those cars including myself but to be fair it’s difficult for automotive companies right now. Look at the Integra, Civic, Integra I mean lol. That’s how far we’ve come from the GSR B18C1 days ladies and gentlemen and you can’t go back to that due to the Governments foot I mean mandates on their necks. I find the 4th and 5th gen purest to be the most controversial between which one was a better car but this I know to be true we would all sit down together at a camp fire and agree either one is better than what’s coming. I wish they would have reserved the Prelude with the same respect they have for the Type R, S2000, and so on. You can’t input cheat code “Prelude” and then be like all is well now 👏🏻👏🏻. No sir, the new one better be half the car the old “ones” were. I see you 4th geners! About to jump on me. Anyways, thanks for the coverage but I’ll pass. I’m enjoying my ILX right now. Not the car I wanted but 10 times better than what I expected. Long story short I didn’t even know they existed how far I’m removed from the game but some cool guy texting rear ended my last car. Rip….🪦 and my mother in law informed me they had this come in as a trade in. 17 43k miles fkn immaculate one hour, and I got them to come off five grand, I’ll take it. Hated the car for weeks literally. Then it grew on me.
I’ve been at Honda (mother plant)for 19yrs. We are on a down spiral I feel we just can’t get right. I feel like we are too scared to be aggressive like we used to be back in the day.
I currently have a stock 10th Gen Civic Si, and I've been wanting to get myself into a RWD car like the BRZ/GR86 or Miata, but as I'm getting older I'm starting to think I need to look in a different direction. Like I've had my car for nearly 5 years and haven't had the chance to go to an autocross or track, my daily commute 26 miles, so for me, as much as I like going through gears myself I realistically just need something that handles well with good fuel economy. So this new Prelude kinda fits the bill, essentially if it shares the rumored suspension components with the Type R, and the simulated gear shifting could be fun. Still do need to wait and see how good it is first though, I am still a little optimistic!
At least they didn't pull a Jag 🫠
I'm glad for that.👍
It’s not far off
Honda is a superior Japanese company that doesn't mess around with inferior Western culture
Jag off
The ultimate pull out technique.
Faguar is the funniest thing I’ve ever heard
At least it's a 2 door. But when sales are down because its a hybrid, they'll blame it on being a coupe.
^This^
If it's 30-40k will it sales. I think the only thing they can blame is the price.
Hybrid is amazing I just sold my 2023 Honda score hybrid sport and after selling my Porsche cayenne turbo s and I loved it, I sold it and now I own a 2025 Honda hr-v as my daily of course, I can’t complain but the hybrid accord was and is awesome
@@GF-mf7mlyes and no, I was getting 50mpg in my 2023 accord, you can’t complain either anything else around that price range gets 20mpg
@@GomezMotorSport does your hybrid Accord rev to redline when going 85mph up a mountain? I'm worried about those new hybrids that tend to do that a lot. If it does then i think a hybrid needs to have a lot more power just to be on par with a regular gas car for out of state travel.
I love that Honda is adding more coupe/sedan options when the rest of the car world is pushing SUVs and crossovers.
Toyota is the main one pushing coupes
Honda without hatchback just like Ferrari without coupe.
It looks like a 2 door Prius no creativity at all
@@waterloo123100 Literally the only similarities are that the headlights are nice and they're the only nice looking non-crossovers on the market. Otherwise it doesn't look like a Prius at all. You're simply wrong.
@@Parker--They literally had to change the original concept vehicle because it looked too much much like a Prius. It doesn’t look good at all your opinion just doesn’t make sense.
“Hey we would love to have a two door Integra”
“Here’s a prelude”
You should drive drive the HAS-SPORT Insight, that's swapped. Plus yous your lighting isn't great. It washes ot the the cool background. IMHO
It's a horrible looking car. Freaking Honda don't listen.... Not a great idea if it's competing with itself. Think about what made the last prelude fail... Well as long as it's fast.
Oh just wait, the Acura version of the prelude is going to be the RSX.
@@Jeremy_Hill_2020 My Integra type s is a full 1000lbs lighter than a tlx and has 35 less hp. Not the same thing bud. Do you have any idea how large the tlx really is??
@@josemontes9105 It's going to have 200 hp.
Because the CRZ was such a raging success.......
Glad someone's on the same wavelength as I am.
Bro, that’s what I’ve been saying. Everyone keeps talking about. This is just like the CRX bro I haven’t seen a single CRX on the fucking road in my entire life. The CRX was not a good fucking achievement. It was an even achievement at all.
Literally thought the same thing. I just see red flags with this one...
I love my CRZ though, I'm so happy I'll have a comparable replacement for it in a few years
Fun fact CRZ is slower than Fit. That's why.....
A lot of people forgot what a Prelude was for Honda. Prelude was the car all the high end technology went into first.
This is much different than before. It’s not based on the Accord. It’s a Civic coupe, basically. This is an affordable entry coupe. I don’t think an aspirational vehicle is what Honda needs atm, particularly a car.
@@Michael-ur5qb That's a mute point, the Accord and Civic have been on the same platform for the last two generations. This is meant to be a sporty GT car.
That high end technology went to driving experience not fuel consumption. They already had the insight for that.
@@waterloo123100 Honda has implied that the Prelude will be built on a new lightweight platform and have an optional 67hp rear motor, so that might still be true
High end technology has a different meaning nowadays compared to the 90s. I'm happy to take any 90s high tech feature any day of the week but not necessarily all modern high tech features on a new car.
Without a manual option at this kind of power level, just not interested. Seems like a missed opportunity to offer a two door, manual, 2 liter turbo, affordable enthusiast option.
Problem is they don't sell. This is why the Civic Coupe died in 2020.
I'm interested precisely *because* they're not saddling it with a slow, thirsty, and polluting manual.
Some "missed opportunity" to sell to the 7% of buyers stuck in the past.
@@tim3172 this can't be a serious comment.
@@logwind as much as you disagree, there is truth to it. They are not making money catering to a vocal minority who does not make the overall buyer base for their cars, i mean ya'll even say anything just above 10k-20k is "overpriced"
@@slimslimee4411 I agree that manuals are a niche market. I disagree that they're "slow, thirsty, and polluting". that just sounds like leftist green propaganda.
I suspect this car will be too expensive for most of us anyway. Hybrid and sports car equals $$$
I wouldn't expect it to be much more expensive than the existing Civic Hybrid which is $28k to $33k.
It will easily be 35K with 7% per loan that lude costing you about 65K enjoy your useless electric 2 seater civic
Pretty sure they confirmed it will be $30k starting. It’s basically a Civic coupe. I see it being priced around the hatchback and topping out at $40k.
@ nope add 5K markups tax title and totals she’ll be running 40K all day for those “enthusiasts “
@@MicroCaletus 35k to 40k isnt horrible when most modern sedans are around 25k
The Hondas that were "Heavy" back in the day, are pretty damn light today!
my 4th gen prelude is "heavy" but only 200 pounds more than a mini cooper lol.
Heavy means comfy now
I have a base model, manual transmission 2017 Honda Fit and it weighs 2513lbs. Kinda of heavy back in the 1990s, featherlight today.
@@Dreamweaver94My smart car is 1800 lbs. They turn into hockey pucks in the event of an accident.
Wonder if this will be a comments section of “enthusiasts” who will find any reason not to buy this so they can complain about automakers not making cars like this once it’s been cancelled for poor sales. We’re getting a new small coupe with 200hp and 50 mpg. What is there to complain about?
Enthusiasts don't buy cars brand new anyway.
most enthusiasts don't like hybirds, myself included. esp when it comes to honda, all their current cars are lame.
We told them what we want and we didn't get it. That's there not to understand?
No enthusiast ever asked for a Hybrid coupe with simulated gearbox. A coupe? Yes. Manual? Yes. But not an auto hybrid coupe. Look, as good as Ionic's simulated gearbox is, that's a solution for an EV that doesn't even have a gearbox. The 86 is selling pretty well. Managers always expect sales growth as if people change cars every year, so maybe it's a disappointment from that perspective; but in real world, the sales are fine.
@@badboy-gn8fu FL5 is lame?
still running a 01 lude, i bet it will outlast the new one.
I shouldn't have laughed at that. But probably accurate
You never know! We all dunked on the Prius for being complex but the 2nd gens are everywhere like cockroaches that refuse to die
Hopefully, that's up to you lol
No it wont h22 not reliable at all
Sadly I feel like all cars in the last years are intended to be driven for 6 years and disintegrate immediately afterwards.
cant wait to buy a shell in 35 years and type r swap it
2 doors and an ICE engine in 2025?! I'll take it. Thanks Honda!
okay, what about instead of ICE cars, we make ECE cars! lmao
Electric Combustion Engines
@@siinxkj Gasoline powered cars do use electrically initiated combustion. Spark plugs go zappy zap and vapor goes boom.
What are you talking about? Last I checked, pretty much all two-door cars in 2025 are ICE (maybe like 2 models are electric total!).
Not to mention that you can still buy NA 2-door car in the form of the 86 in 2025
@@andycalifornia426 new affordable coupes are not common.
As a CR-Z owner and lover, I'm very hyped about the Prelude. I can picture myself driving one in 2036 and getting asked "wow what car is that? I've never seen thad Honda" every day.
Crz was a fun little car
I was going to import a CRZ but actually this temps me 😅
I heard Honda sold Supercharger or turbo kit for the Crz did you get that?
@@CKPHH Yes, there is a HPD kit for supercharging the car, but no, I have the CRZ EX version with the stock engine.
@CKPHH I work at Honda, the supercharger kit is actually still available! It's also still extremely expensive, lol.
I loved the 4th gens. I've owned 3, a F22, an H23a1, and my last one had a built H22A from Japan. I wish I still had that car....
The new Prelude resembles the previous 8th & 9th gen Honda Accord coupe more than the actual Prelude.
I see where you’re coming from but the preludes of the past always took after the accord platform.
@@AdrianHernandez-ok6mzThey were based on accord platforms but their styling was actually after the mustang and Camaro. Short rear deck, long hood, low cowl. That has always been the prelude design language. This new one looks....weird.
Hybrids are very very reliable, it’s honestly the way to go. Hybrids can add more power, save on gas, and tend to be more reliable than gas cars. It’s not an “EV” no need to charge hybrid vehicles
The written out logo change is for the Chinese market where consumers are unlikely to recognize the regular logo since they haven’t had these brands in large numbers til relatively recently
And the old logo is somehow not suitable for the Chinese market?
tf are you talking about? Honda entered Chinese market back in the 80s, start with motorcycles production, then built cars in the 90s.
Honda is a household name in China todays. Honda used their logo in China just like everywhere else, they put the Chinese name on the side with the logo at the center in China.
The reason Honda uses "letter logo" on the back is .... copying Porsche?? I dunno ┐( ˘ ､ ˘ )┌
Hot take: The push to EVs is NOT to save the planet. It is to prevent you from having the freedom to drive. Hence the lack of a steering wheel in the EV concept you called out. 😬
Pushing the driver out of the car is a simultaneous but unrelated development to the rise of EVs. ICE cars can be made boring and autonomous, too. They've been heading that way for a while. Major advancements in autonomous driving (machine vision, LIDAR, massively parallel processing) just happened to occur at the same time as major advancements in EV tech (new battery chemistries, large-scale cell manufacturing, regenerative speed controllers & control systems).
And the car only functions when it's allowed, can be remotely disabled, and can't be recharged during a blackout. Safe plebs are preferable to free risk takers.
It’s politics
And the point of doing that is... ?
Trump won so its all good now. Woke globalist movement is dead
Now Toyota needs to make a GR Prius to blow this away
Maybe that's what the new Celica will be, Prelude's main competitor.
Make Prius AWD fast as h and name it Celica.
Just don't drive it over 80mph or on track.
The Prius is expensive and comes in 4 doors, if anything it has competition in the Civic Hatchback and already loses based on the sales and quite frankly is an easier car to live with.
R bring back the Celica
This is not a mistake. The Prelude is a car for going on dates with the girls and cruising with one hand on the wheel. It's not like the Type R crowds.
I had a full drag race 4th gen that made 800 hp 23 years ago. Favorite car ever. It started as a 4 wheel steering daily driver and I converted it to a 2.2 Vtec and eventually made it fill tube chassis. I miss it soooo much.
Hybrid makes a lot of sense. From a consumer and a car company perspective. Plus unfortunately barring niche markets non hybrid isn’t an attractive proposal for most buyers.
Nobody buys hybrids in the Midwest 😂
The problem is that people who drive hybrids do so because a car is A-to-B for them and they want to save money. They're not looking to buy an unpractical 2-door coup. This just shows how out of touch Honda is -- they haven't learned anything from the failure of the NSX reboot.
@@waterloo123100yea in the midwest ppl just buy oxycontin and burger king
EV? I’m out…
2nd that I'm definitely out. I owned 94 si , 01 SH put over 200k on both in high-school 😅. Then discovered nbs silverados 😅 ls rcsb now 5spd lol 😅
Hybrid, not FULL EV
Buh bye
It's a hybrid 🤦
@@VaunShizstill finna be trash
The vast majority of the public will buy this BECAUSE it's a hybrid and sporty looking. Most people in the market for a brand new daily and want a prius, dont really have any asthetic options and are not car people in the first place. This thing will sell like HOTCAKES. Sidenote, it's just a civic hybrid coupe. This is why it came to market so quick. Its just a different body on the same platform.
Exactly! Not currently in the market for a new car, but this will be at the top of my list the next time I am bc I will never buy a full gas car & want something with some sporty character
The Honda Prelude was always a platform for bleeding edge tech. The 5th gen had an early FWD version of the SH-AWD system that later debuted on the 2005 Acura RL. So seeing this 6th gen Prelude with a performance gas electric hybrid system for a vehicle many can afford makes sense. And having a sporty coupe in Honda’s current lineup is great to see.
I still like the look of the 4th gen Prelude the best, but this one looks damn good in my opinion. Way better than their awful new Integra and Civic designs.
It looks like a 2 door Prius 😣
I actually like the new Integra design, it's an attractive car.
@@e1bo It looks more luxury like. Just not what the enthusiasts wanted is all. Im sure they are wonderful cars.
new civic is a looker though... love em... at first i thought like u but that design grew on me like nothin before
@@waterloo123100 What's wrong with it looking like the latest get Prius when that car looks very decent?
I think it would be interesting to see Honda do a little experiment and sell it with a non hybrid option for a year. If the non hybrid option sells better, then thatll show them that a hybrid/electric car aint what people want. If hybrid sells better, then sure, they can double down on it and get rid of the non hybrid option. It certainly feels like these companies are just going all in on electric and hybrid on these sports cars without even seeing what the target audience actually wants.
I think this is gonna be a fun dynamic car. The new Civic Hybrid is great, the same powertrain is in the Accord & CR-V. The CR-V is AWD, so this is possible for the Prelude. I think the S+ Shift feature will be exactly like the Ioniq 5 N's simulated gearbox. Honda's hybrid system already has NO transmission. SavageGeese on RUclips goes pretty in depth, including a track test of the Civic Hybrid.
This is the car people really want. Looks good. Rides nice. Sporty 'enough'. Great gas mileage. Honda reliability. AWD, for people who lives where it snows. Makes it a fantastic daily car.
So glad Honda didn't focus on 0-60 times, or track capabilities, etc. 99.9% of people don't care about that.
Now, all Honda has to do to make this a success, is NAIL THE PRICING. If this is some $60k luxury pos, it won't sell. But I'll be first in line if it's close to $30k.....
i was holding out hope that it would have a manual option. as my first car was an 86 Prelude Si, they have a place in my heart. not completely sure how i feel about it, but at least it is a hybrid, not an EV...
Get a 4th or 5th gen. They do not disappoint in if the motor is stock.
Prelude, vtec, manual, and easy to install stuff for tuners… that would be ideal. Maybe hybrid vtec for low end torque and fuel efficiency but looks are great, no need for lower case letters tho, that’s not ok in any circumstance. I’d like one but I’m so hooked on the FL5 Type R look, I’m gonna see what my buddy thinks and if it’s possible to get one off his dealership for msrp
My 4th gen still gets 32-35 mpg and I be hitting that vtec in my h22 every day lol
My 5th gen impresses me with its mpg. All stock and itll last forever and still be fun hitting 8200rpms.
@@Katchalata I have a blue 5th gen in the garage as well but I daily the 4th gen because it’s just more fun to drive with the all wheel steering and digital dash. 5th gen interior is pretty basic like a civic
Still driving my 2007 S2000. Get asked at least once a week if I want to sell it lol.
Japanese brands made the best cars in the 90s… Now they just make uninspiring SUVs & sedans with CVTs n 4 cylinders, PHEVs, & EVS. This could have been a perfect Accord coupe predecessor - But no…
you do know these decisions are based on the current market trend and future predictions based on what people want and buy right now?
Mazda still makes great cars btw
I love all of the Honda Prelude generations especially the 2001 model I had a silver 01 SH H22 with a AEM intake , HP header back straight pipe to HP exhaust , carbon fiber head and taillights , on 19' inch HP rims with some slight head work and other carbon goodies I ABSOLUTELY LOVED THAT CAR !
I’ll just keep driving my 4th gen every day. H22 with a manual not much makes me happier.
8200 rpm bliss and 35-40mpg
@@Katchalata what 35mpg ? 20-28 max
David if you’re ever in the Philly or NJ area I will have both second gen Camaro and k swapped insight for you to try! Should be finishing the insight this spring/summer!
Honda sporty hybrid has already been released and failed; anyone remember the CR-Z. Hybrid version of an iconic sporty Honda is a recipe for failure.
it was just ahead of its time.
@hungryalien Ahead of which time. Sport compact and hybrid is the wrong combination. Sport compact should be light weight, and hybrid battery add a lot of weight. Plus it's much harder to modify a hybrid if it's possible.
@@JuanRodriguez-wx9sq crz was a proof of concept and not a replacement for the likes of EG/EK hatchbacks. as with mods, mugen and hpd both made a supercharger kits with ecu tune for it.
Even if it is a hybrid, it’s great to see Honda want to try & recapture their 90’s sporty vibe. Great vid man!
Fun fact, the 3rd gen prelude was available in a Si 4WS trim that came with mechanical 4 wheel steering as opposed to the electrical found on the 4th gen. I have a family member that had one
Yep
I was a Honda fan once, but these days I can't tell them from the rest...
And we’re back 😎
I wish they would simulate the classic Honda "weecheechee" starter sound for startup and the classic straight cut reverse gear "waaaaaa" sound. Something subtle that if someone wasn't really paying attention, they wouldn't notice, but those who are more familiar with old Honda might. I'll love Preludes and I'm a little excited to see the name return. One of the first cars I really clicked with was my mother's 1986 Prelude 2.0 Si.
This generation of Honda's sporty cars are terrible. Over priced, under powered, and the dealer markups just make it insulting. "Pay 40k for a 4-door Integra A-Spec that will get smoked by a stock GR86." Why?
whats not "over priced" these days? we are just simply poorer these days.
47k M3P does 2.8/10.8 ⚡️🇺🇲
To be fair, gr86 is a dedicated sports car where as the Hondas have to wear many different hats to be an everyday commuter car
@@Indacouch-li8jp”Dedicated” is a strong word especially since they’re blowing themselves up…and Honda has also made sport cars he’s not talking about a civic.
@@Indacouch-li8jp if we're strictly speaking apples to apples, A-Spec integra is very comparable to a GTI Autobahn, and a WRX Limited. All practical, 4 door, compact sports cars. Price wise, all around 40k, power wise, GTI has 40 more, WRX has 70 more, and AWD. What's the appeal of the Integra at that point, other that personal preference? You can't even stage 1 an Integra/Civic without upgrading the clutch. Just a lot less bang for your buck, hell, you can get an Elantra N with a great DCT, and 76 more hp for 5k less. I'm not a Honda hater, I just don't understand their current direction.
I admit a longing for the "old" days. Late 80's and early 90's Hondas still have a special place in my heart. Facelifted gen 3, and the gen 4 Preludes are my fave. While a far cry from modern hybrids for mileage and acceleration, the oldies got it done with light weight.
No manual, bruh. I never thought Honda would ever be this down bad. I hate buyers and wish more people would learn manual.
If I was president. I would make cars with manual transmission tax free for both the company building/selling it, and customers buying.
@@fortheloveofnoisewell thats dumb.. glad u arent the president. 😂😊
On the plus, and it's a big plus, manual makes your car much less likely to be stolen
Go drive a manual in gridlock traffic in the states then you understand why manuals are unpopular.
You are so right about driving hybrids. Even my 2024 RAV4 feels really good. And I can easily accelerate as quickly or quicker than most other cars.
I daily a manual Honda cr-z which is an electric assisted motor which basically the new prelude would be doing something similar to and I love driving my cr-z and as David said yes,it is quite peppy and fun to drive. As far as the S+ as crazy as it sounds, my CRZ also has this right at the corner of the steering wheel and you push it to get a five second boost from the electric motor and it is quite exhilarating when it kicks in 😂.. I will be k swapping it though in the future that was the whole reason for me buying the car in the first place.
The new Honda hybrid system has no transmission, the engine is only directly connected to the wheels during a very limited range of speeds. I expect the S+ Shift to be similar to the fake shifts on the Ioniq6N
It will be awesome. It's a good type of hybrid. Logical, efficient, adds power, adds torque, and hopefully has Honda reliability. Everything that makes owning a Honda special. But what will it cost? And when will they have a type s? How much will that cost? Should be playing similar to the new civic hybrid 200+HP. Under 2900lbs?
a type s will cost past $50k.
If it’s not manual, rwd or awd, and ICE or hybrid ICE, you’ve lost 99% of anyone interested in a Prelude successor.
I was just telling a buddy of mine, the other day that they needed to re-introduce a modern version of the prelude. Crazy.
1:07 Ugh, 🤮 the blandness makes me gag.
Amen. What's the point of doing a "rendering" if it's not even good...
@@andycalifornia426 If they were gonna use that front end... I mean, what would they have done with the original S2000? Put the headlights and grill of a '98 Civic on it? It's an S2000, not a RWD Civic!
That front overhang is ridiculous
FWD and hybrid? This aint sellin 🥲
I can't help but wonder if Honda will use the Integra or the Prelude chassis when it makes its way into the arena of NASCAR.
As a Prelude BB6 owner, I'm stoked for it. My dad had a first gen Prius so that may help, too. My mom has the 2018 HRV and I enjoy the sport mode with CVT. Having paddle shifts for engine braking is nice, too; yet, nothing is quite like a smooth rev match. I just hope the service manual isn't too bonkers and it can still be worked on.
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@6:24 when you realize why they call it the prelude
When I saw the concept I was stoked, I like two door coupes, and my wife has a 2023 Accord hybrid that we love. When it was rumored to have a manual I even went to the dealership to see if they had any information…I’ll buy a manual version, but I don’t think this transmission sounds like it’ll actually make for a sporty car
Fake gears is like fake exhaust or fake vents - stupid.
I hope the hybrid becomes-as you mentioned about torque-part of the excitement of driving rather than a sacrifice for economy. The NSX had, from what I hear, a fantastic hybrid system. It looks fantastic, especially for a $35k sports coupé with Honda quality.
I’m so tired of hybrids and EV’s
10:40 - ngl I had a Prius as my rental recently and it's honestly a great daily. I mean, I was getting 60MPG and it has all of the driver assists you'd want. It wasn't a dog either.
It'd be a great car if you have a two car setup so you can have the practical daily and a not practical fun car.
And you can easily have that NOW without this pointless Prelude: Miata.
This powertrain will just be the same hybrid setup that's in all their other current vehicles, I will be shocked if they will be able to tune it to give a "sporty" shifting response since I doubt the initial design ever considered any type of conventional sporting feel.
Exactly.
Wish it wasn't hybrid but I don't mind the design
Glad to see companies are actually making an effort with ev front designs instead of just slapping some cladding over the grill and calling it a day
The Tokyo mobility expo isn’t just wheelchairs?
No, they have mobility scooters too
The lack of manual and only 180-200hp isnt great. Unless its cheap like really cheap, I cant see it doing well. A type R powered one would rock
In my opinion the body styling looks much the same as every other sporty 2 door car around right now.
Always solid to see BoostedBoiz Kyle make a cameo
no way they can keep the weight down with EV motor and battery. that alone makes it look less appetising comparing to 86/brz/mx5.
Ya think it will ever be anywhere near the MX5?
my dad had a 90s prelude the transmission in those are insane lasted him about 500k miles and he had to do a motor swap cuz his old one blew up and he put a 1j in it this seems sick and its a super good car
If this S+ shift feature has a clutch pedal my 2020 civic si is getting traded in
What if it isn’t really a manual? What if it’s just the paddle shifter equivalent of a clutch?
@@Ty420 If it has a clutch pedal, like mentioned in the comment you replied to, then it'd be a manual. No clutch pedal = automatic. If by paddle shifter equivalent of a clutch, you mean like how F1 uses hand operated clutches, well that's not coming to the street.
@@usefulidiot21 No, i meant more like electronic. You’re not actually moving the clutch, you’re just telling the car you want to shift and then it shifts when it feels appropriate. Hence the “isn’t really manual”. I didn’t mean anything to do with paddle shifters that’s just what I felt was the quickest way to describe it.
@@Ty420 So would that have a clutch pedal like the original comment stated? Because only manual transmissions have a clutch pedal and everything thing else is just some variation of an automatic (which is what it sounds like you're describing).
@@usefulidiot21 A simulated clutch pedal, hence being electronic and not mechanical. Because I just can’t imagine honda putting a real manual in a hybrid in 2025.
So Honda stopped selling the Civic Coupe because "low sales volumes" but this new Civic Coupe Hybrid with a Prelude sticker is completely fine.... Sorry Honda but this combined with your piss poor 1.5 oil leaking disaster is why i dumped you all a long time ago.
If Honda can get this to be genuinely fun to drive, even with an automatic, it will be one of the best coupes available today. All they need to do is make the "S+ Shift" even half as enjoyable to use as something like the GTI's DSG -- which, looking at their track record of making amazing shifters and transmissions, really shouldn't be difficult.
Love how Honda and Toyota switch between one making hits and one taking Ls. Toyota is making hit after hit, so it looks like Honda is starting their Ls
be glad that they are still trying. looking at you Nissan and Subaru!
So, did the press release mention where the two Motors will be located? You can assist an engine with a single motor. A whole lot cheaper, lighter and just as effective. Which is typically Honda's route. So are they going to be on the front wheels, or the rear. People have been screaming for AWD in a performance Honda for a long time. If they go on the rear, then doesn't that give us a backward NSX? With a bit less ICE. I haven't noticed the other manufacturers logo. I worked for Honda for almost three decades, and the new logo reminded me of the original from the 60s. Minus the slight cursive curve. The unframed short H appears to be throw back style as well.
They named it the Prelude with the intention of it being the test mule. VTech, 4ws..
We were disappointed four wheel steering didn't stick😂
The Subaru svx was an "odd car experience" in itself. That's a steering wheel you'll never forget
No enthusiast will buy a hybrid, they will just get hated on, it will be just another NPC transporter. Enthusiast will just buy another brand..
No one is getting hated on because they're not 12. Enthusiasts can like different cars than each other, not everyone has to like the same thing.
@@aliabdi6094 This is the tier list.
Diesel + God tier
Gas = Mortal man
Hybrid = transx
EV = Gay af
I'm happy to see more companies bringing back older models. With the Honda/Nissan venture and with Mitsubishi probably following, both of those companies could have the ability to bring others back. A new 240sx and a new proper Eclipse or Evo. Either way it's nice to still have something exciting to look forward to.
Civic Type R: sedan
Integra Type R: sedan
Prelude: Hybrid and CVT
Honda has lost touch completely. Need a high revving gas engine with 6 speed transmission. Something the people want, not what the EPA wants.
Most people want CUV/SUV. To them a car is an appliance like a fridge. Cheap sports cars don't sell.
LOL bet if honda does come out with one, you still wont buy and will just complain for something else. 😆
The Honda i-MMD drive is not a CVT.
Years ago I had a black ‘87 Si in my 20’s. I always told myself I’d buy the Prelude if they brought it back. I’m hesitant initially, but I suppose I can be convinced if it’s fun to drive
The prelude i think was most famous for beating ferrari and other high end sports cars in the 700 yrd slalom. The hood was so low, it was lowers than an mr2's hood. It could handle transitions really well, making it a great touge car.
Even the 4th gen could beat an S2000 on touge, look at JUN racings prelude.
Keep the bells and whistles off the car, make it do something amazing for drivers. Make it a small light nimble performer. Make history memorable for honda.
They have to make a car that sells. Not cater to people that are stuck in the 90s.
@@eptdy i doubt this new prelude will sell.
It's a hybrid.
Well having owned a 5th gen SH Prelude for over 20 years, I'm excited for its return, but sad that you can't row the gears and it looks so sleek and not an angular long hood cab-back design like almost all previous Preludes.
If Honda had any sense in their heads, the new prelude would have a high output 4 no turbo standard and a turbo upgrade. All the hybrid does is add cost and puts this car over 30 grand.
There might be some sort of Si version down the line. The hybrid system is shared with the Civic, CR-V, & Accord which brings costs down. I'm just glad it's gonna be for sale. It's a damn good looking car, & if it comes down to Prius or Prelude, I know what I'm taking.
If Honda/Acura was smart they would bring back the Legend name and use the turbo and manual.
Yeah, except there is almost zero market for that. 90% of car buyers don't care about hp ratings. They care about size, mileage, and cost. You can whine and cry for years, but v8s are dying out for a reason.
@@shikamaru281281the hellcat is coming back if you kept up with the times 😂
@shikamaru281281 I think the Honda civic SI was a very good package when it was under 25 grand, most dealers couldn't get enough to sell. As far as V8s go, if an automaker can build a coupe under 30 grand with a V8 I think it would sell like crazy.
Dude im all in if they make it so it has "shifting" like that other ev you checked out. I think it looks alot better than the current Integra.
Hybrids still shift gears unless it's a CVT
@@phantomflame0658 I mean... what torque converter or DCT automatic hybrids exist?
The slim minority of Hyundai/Kia HEV-AT vehicles and (?)
The ZF 8/9-speed Hybrid Plus transmission was dropped before seeing any kind of large-scale production.
I don't believe any DCT hybrid powertrains exist.
The first-gen Honda insight had a MaNuAl (one of the largest of the many reasons for its downfall.)
@@tim3172 Honda NSX, BMW M5, many many others. By hybrid I mean the use of electrical assistance by extra motors and often times the starter. In FWD applications like this new prelude it can be a standard engine, with the rear motors being electric. I think we are confusing terms here because obviously I did not mean a hybrid like a Prius. Either way I hope it's that and not just a CVT with fake shifting as that is quite frankly gay
No real manual? Hybrid? No thanks
Get with the 21st century. No one wants slow ice and manual.
@@larryc1616everyone wants a manual get with the program and quite being lazy
@@larryc1616speak for yourself, people don’t buy Honda’s sports cars for straight line speed. The target demographic for a car like this does not want a hybrid powertrain. However, i can concur that it’ll probably make it sell better with the normal daily-driver non car enthusiast market.
@@larryc1616my stock fiesta st would run circles around this thing 😂😂😂
Always loved the prelude. I just wish instead of doing a hybrid with this thing they'd do a souped up, rejuvenated version of they're 3.5 litre V6 and slap in it. I miss old honda
The Prelude is just a friendly reminder to me to hurry up and buy a Type R while I still can. The CTR/ITS won't be around for too much longer, and basically the Prelude is going to become the only "sporty" Honda on sale.
I had a 1998 Prelude SiR and it was the first rolling burnout machine I ever owned... I could just drop the clutch and it would roll through 1st - 3rd gear just shredding the tires. Sadly it was short lived solely because I needed a pickup and ended up trading it in on a 1998 Ford F150.
As a previous Acura/Honda fan I don't care for it; not even interested in it. Honda at this point has little to no cars to offer in coupe format so it's another reason not to buy a Honda/Acura. 4 door family sedans and SUVs are the common norm nowadays and I'd be surprised if it even sells. All the cool 2 door coupe cars are extinct in Honda’s lineup and I think this will become the next on that list, again. I think this is another “nostalgic” car for the old millennials/Xers from back in those days. 99% of them are married w/children now and I’d be surprised if any of them bought this car. Furthermore, they’re running out of ideas so they’re bringing back a car from the dead only for it to die again.
“I’m not hating, I’m just stating” needs to be a graphic t right away. If I don’t see it by next week I’m making my own.
There's nothing that car manufacturers to do to make me interested in a new car. Even the GR86 has issues with oil pan gaskets that the manufacturer wont even recall and fix. I will find the old cars, and continue to restore them until my body gives out.
86 problems can be fixed in the aftermarket. Sure, it's unfair and sucks, but the car is good and fixable.
@@andycalifornia426and the problem is so overblown lol
3:08 even if it's *not meant for performance.* I have a 2002 Prius - 258 lb-ft of torque straight from 0 RPM. It's pure joy surprising people at stoplights with my 0-30 performance. Just a few days ago, I was in front of one of those massive diesel pickups at a stop sign. Floored it and left him in the dust up to about 20.
"Needs of the Customers?" No one wants a 2 door Pruis
I do
I owned and loved my 5th gen for more than 7 years. It had its ups and downs but in the end one of my favorite Hondas I’ve had. I’ve had a lot. I don’t think they will be able to capture that love and feeling that people had for those cars including myself but to be fair it’s difficult for automotive companies right now. Look at the Integra, Civic, Integra I mean lol. That’s how far we’ve come from the GSR B18C1 days ladies and gentlemen and you can’t go back to that due to the Governments foot I mean mandates on their necks. I find the 4th and 5th gen purest to be the most controversial between which one was a better car but this I know to be true we would all sit down together at a camp fire and agree either one is better than what’s coming. I wish they would have reserved the Prelude with the same respect they have for the Type R, S2000, and so on. You can’t input cheat code “Prelude” and then be like all is well now 👏🏻👏🏻. No sir, the new one better be half the car the old “ones” were. I see you 4th geners! About to jump on me. Anyways, thanks for the coverage but I’ll pass. I’m enjoying my ILX right now. Not the car I wanted but 10 times better than what I expected. Long story short I didn’t even know they existed how far I’m removed from the game but some cool guy texting rear ended my last car. Rip….🪦 and my mother in law informed me they had this come in as a trade in. 17 43k miles fkn immaculate one hour, and I got them to come off five grand, I’ll take it. Hated the car for weeks literally. Then it grew on me.
I think the concept looks good, and I'm glad to see the Prelude return
Nice review David! 5th gen had an analog dash. I had a 97 sh …it was fun
This car will be invisible to buyers
Can’t please everyone
I’ve been at Honda (mother plant)for 19yrs. We are on a down spiral I feel we just can’t get right. I feel like we are too scared to be aggressive like we used to be back in the day.
This thing's gonna faceplant. Hard.
Without a Manual transmission Yes, It's actually a JOKE
I currently have a stock 10th Gen Civic Si, and I've been wanting to get myself into a RWD car like the BRZ/GR86 or Miata, but as I'm getting older I'm starting to think I need to look in a different direction. Like I've had my car for nearly 5 years and haven't had the chance to go to an autocross or track, my daily commute 26 miles, so for me, as much as I like going through gears myself I realistically just need something that handles well with good fuel economy.
So this new Prelude kinda fits the bill, essentially if it shares the rumored suspension components with the Type R, and the simulated gear shifting could be fun. Still do need to wait and see how good it is first though, I am still a little optimistic!