it was pure luck, he didn't try to put the car sideways, use the e-brake, downshift... nothing! worst reaction, he panicked and blocked. stop praising him. yeah, kudos on the cage but horrible skill.
Felipe Mtz. Ojeda all the things you suggested would have absolutely turned this 1 car crash into several. Credit to the driver for minimizing damage that was caused.
I was two cars behind the mr2 in this video..... so I can say wow, he did thread the needle, good job. What I can also say that none of you can contradict is how this was pure luck. I saw this Integra practicly airborne as it crossed turn one. HE WAS NOT IN CONTROL, YOU CANNOT STEER IF YOU ARE NOT IN CONTACT WITH THE GROUND. There, you're welcome.
Love the armchair racers commenting about what he should have done. IT'S A ROOM FULL OF CATS, PEOPLE! Glad you made it out and I hope you guys get back out soon!
Wow. So happy you were able to thread the needle there and make it a single car incident! I've gone into Turn One there and had to use the e-brake and DoRifTo to haul it down; that was some scary stuff.
A). You soil your drivers suit. B). You shorten your race weekend in horrific fashion C). All of the time/money working on the car is flushed down the toilet D). You get a bill from the track for repairs. All things that do not outweigh the fact that you are seemingly okay. I don't care what anyone says, that is one hell of a job. I hope the other cars that you DID NOT collect are appreciative.
Glad your ok man, that was some excellent heads up driving, with probably a bit of luck missing those cars. Do you know what failed on the car yet? Check those seatbelts I don’t think they’re supposed to be used again after a crash like that. Hope you guys make it to NH with something #199
I say good driving and luck. He realize he lost his brakes in the braking zone intentionally swerved right into the grass to avoid the other cars, that is good reaction and his only option other than rear ending the pack. once you hit the grass there is no steering you can see him try to to give small steering input when he hits the grass but nothing so he rides it out and luckily misses the pack.
that;s why its important to tap the brakes before all major braking zones. lucky he survived. good decision to take it to the grass and lucky he avoided all the cars.
LOL at "intentionally". Wheel was turned 90* to the right from the time he went off track, with zero change in direction from "straight ahead". Great outcome overall... but it was pure luck. Glad everyone was OK.
Holy hell! Way to shoot the gap! Glad you're alright. How bad did you hurt your hands? I've always been taught if your going to hit and no avoiding it just let go of the wheel and crass your arms across your chest.
Yes, lucky you did not break your wrist or arm. But glad you were fine. Was the guardrail supposed to break like that though? I am thinking no because while they need to have a lot of flexibility, they should not break either.
What I want to see, though, is the footage from the car you passed directly in front of at about 12 seconds in. That guy/gal had to be scared shitless.
This is Tom, fellow Lemons racer, very interested in the type of cage, as in general shape. Maybe some pics post crash? Wondering about anything I can do to make my Pinto safer since it doesn't exactly have the crush zones your newer car does...
I was at the 2015 NJ race. We had problems with the carb flooding on braking. I was coming into the hairpin and lost the motor. So I let out the clutch while still in 3rd, got the engine back but immediately swung sideways into the turn. I ended up t-boning a busted up beamer which I didn't feel too bad about because it didn't leave a dent on him. My 87 foxbody was a different story though. I was sooooo pissed. What surprised me the most was it was a hard hit and I didn't even feel it.
So what happens after the crash since the guardrail is damaged? Do they put in another one or just continue on? Does the drive team have to pay for a new rail?
Originally I thought you should have let the clutch out when you had no breaks but the timing between those two cars was so perfect it might have been a best case scenario you didn’t
Glad he's o.k., but......1) Why did it take so long for a safety worker to get to him and 2) that loose guard rail beam could have caused some serious injury. Both points need addressing, very quickly!
So...the drill down is what caused the failure?...brake pads overheated, hot fluid, not enough meat on the pads, leak? Not the sort of shit u want to happen again. We bleed and change fluid regularly, check pads n rotors and any possible hose leaks...trying to minimize the possibilities. No one wants a brake failure at 200kph.
Turned the wheel anyway and pumped the brakes to try and get pressure back. Couldn't do anymore than that. Good thing the front didn't bite and turn while he was on the grass. Could have easily killed that corner worker.
Way too many people shooting their mouths off here... But hey it's RUclips not a more mature platform. He had very little time in a situation that he has most likely never been in before, like most drivers, thankfully. All of 2 seconds after the first few pumps to realize he was screwed and do something. One thing that a lot of drivers are taught is both feet in and keep it straight. Engine braking in a Honda is marginal in my experience. No ebrake because stripped race car. His instinct was to either point to the longer runoff or avoid the closest car. I feel like I would have ridden it out straight ahead to avoid collecting other cars, but I don't think any of us are very well prepared for this kind of dynamic and unexpected situation to know for sure. Spinning intentionally there means you hit the grass sideways at highway speeds, assuming he was close to 90 to start since he did let off a bit. Our car is slower and hit 89 there IIRC. I would rather use the largest crumple zone available, the front. Imagine if he had hit the guard rail sideways... That rail end might have come in the window. Or you might roll. Both scary bad.
Nice job sucking up all that energy . After impact i can see you taking a large breath and tilting your chin down in relief . Glad your good. Sorry about the car.
@@jamiewolak hans are mandatory. there is a safey official at the end of the pit lane that stops the driver and checks the equipment before they are allowed to exit pit lane onto the track.
The worst thing you can do is try to make a turn that is un-makeable. Trying to do a turn you can't make usually just gets you into a roll , or sideways into a wall, neither of which is preferable. Remember that all the crush zones are in the front of the car. It's the strongest part of the frame, use it. On every track, I know where I am going to steer to if the brakes are gone. There may be runnoffs or tires where you need but didn't expect them. Be mentally prepared. One last comment, I understand that you tried to cut the turn in order to avoid creaming somebody in the rear. And it worked out. However, had this been a left turn and you t-boned someone, you would have probably killed them. Glad it worked out.
Not trying to be negative but why did he push the clutch in and then kept it in i would have used the engine to help slow the car down!!! i have been in my own share of wrecks and you cant panic but you need to try everything to slow the car down He would have been better off leaving the clutch alone and turn to the left more room and could have slowed down more and possibly just spun it instead he headed straight across the track for the wall.He had time to react differently.... Just my opinion as a DRIVER not just a fan
yeah. no skill at all. I do not understand why everyone praises at him, he didn't try to flick the car, use handbrake, kill the engine and downshift... nothing! all he did was get lucky the other drivers saw him and slowed down so he could hit the barrier. he did not do anything, was pure luck. We want our 2.5 hrs back! and also, I hope any of the other spin-outs were caused by his brake fluid. seriously people, check your damn cars!
And the last time you lost your brakes at the end of the straight was....? Driver had presence of mind to pump em for what he could get and miss as much stuff as possible. Glad the driver is OK. It's the worst place on that track for that to happen.
@@cartryahoo First, he could use the handbrake to slow down the car (unskilled), second, he could go to the left side instead of going through the other cars (stupid). You understand..?
I think its easier said then done. I bet the car has no hand brake and who knows what the left side would have resulted in. Maybe his call wasn't textbook perfect but everyone is alive so it was right
Fantastic driving or shit luck makes no difference, best possible outcome. Glad you're ok.
Best out come would be to turn left into guard rail and let it slow you down so you don't do a head on to the rail or another car!
@@bretmuldner Ok, run into a corner doing about 100 with no brakes and no knowledge that they failed and lets see how you reacted
@@DGAF_AK87 probably would try to put it off to the left rather than cross the track but 🤷
@@Hole_MotorsportsDo those cars have kill switches?
@@easyenetwork2023 yes
Excellent build on the cage in that car. Fantastic driver threading the needle.
it was pure luck, he didn't try to put the car sideways, use the e-brake, downshift... nothing! worst reaction, he panicked and blocked. stop praising him. yeah, kudos on the cage but horrible skill.
Felipe Mtz. Ojeda all the things you suggested would have absolutely turned this 1 car crash into several. Credit to the driver for minimizing damage that was caused.
seriously go away
I was two cars behind the mr2 in this video..... so I can say wow, he did thread the needle, good job. What I can also say that none of you can contradict is how this was pure luck. I saw this Integra practicly airborne as it crossed turn one. HE WAS NOT IN CONTROL, YOU CANNOT STEER IF YOU ARE NOT IN CONTACT WITH THE GROUND. There, you're welcome.
Good job not hitting the other cars! Easy for the armchair racers to be critical.
Love the armchair racers commenting about what he should have done. IT'S A ROOM FULL OF CATS, PEOPLE!
Glad you made it out and I hope you guys get back out soon!
Wow. So happy you were able to thread the needle there and make it a single car incident! I've gone into Turn One there and had to use the e-brake and DoRifTo to haul it down; that was some scary stuff.
Unreal he missed those other cars. Awesome work, that gap was tiny, way to keep your head!
WOW WOW WOW. Good attempts at gaining brake pressure with pumps and I cannot believe you didn't touch a single car. Glad you're alright.
Fantastic situational awarness and even better driving!!! hats off to you!!!
Some say he is still pumping the brakes
A). You soil your drivers suit. B). You shorten your race weekend in horrific fashion C). All of the time/money working on the car is flushed down the toilet D). You get a bill from the track for repairs. All things that do not outweigh the fact that you are seemingly okay. I don't care what anyone says, that is one hell of a job. I hope the other cars that you DID NOT collect are appreciative.
And the HANS device saves another life. Every racer's worst nightmare. Glad you got out ok
As a fellow endurance driver, that is my worst nightmare right there....that and fire.
I was expecting it to go into those tyres you clipped but FUCK man, smashing into that armco is terrifying. Glad you're ok and really good cage build.
So happy to see you're ok!
Skilled work by the driver, easily could have been much much worse.
wow.... nice driving to avoid a much worse situation ...
Glad your ok man, that was some excellent heads up driving, with probably a bit of luck missing those cars. Do you know what failed on the car yet? Check those seatbelts I don’t think they’re supposed to be used again after a crash like that. Hope you guys make it to NH with something #199
Glad driver is OK. Worst part of the track to deal with a failure
Great job by the driver to avoid other cars and scrub off as much speed as possible before hitting the barrier.
I say good driving and luck. He realize he lost his brakes in the braking zone intentionally swerved right into the grass to avoid the other cars, that is good reaction and his only option other than rear ending the pack. once you hit the grass there is no steering you can see him try to to give small steering input when he hits the grass but nothing so he rides it out and luckily misses the pack.
Great cage and safety gear! Glad you are okay
Glad you are alright and no one else was hit!!
WOW, glad you are OK!!
that;s why its important to tap the brakes before all major braking zones. lucky he survived. good decision to take it to the grass and lucky he avoided all the cars.
Wow..so glad he's OK!
Props to the driver avoiding contact.
count your blessings for sure. nice work avoiding everyone else. glad your ok
Glad he's okay. Nice safety cage.
I love that you intentionally clipped the tire barrier to bleed off some speed. That could have been much, much worse. Excellent driving.
LOL at "intentionally". Wheel was turned 90* to the right from the time he went off track, with zero change in direction from "straight ahead". Great outcome overall... but it was pure luck. Glad everyone was OK.
Kinda looked like he meant to do that lol
After the other comments - very exciting to re-watch and see the wheel turned for the pure luck & skill combined outcome!
Yea, I had to go back and watch again, he's right, that wheel never turned lol. I guess it was pure luck.
Holy hell! Way to shoot the gap! Glad you're alright. How bad did you hurt your hands? I've always been taught if your going to hit and no avoiding it just let go of the wheel and crass your arms across your chest.
I was very lucky, and I know I should have let go of the wheel but that is easier said then done!
Yes, lucky you did not break your wrist or arm. But glad you were fine. Was the guardrail supposed to break like that though? I am thinking no because while they need to have a lot of flexibility, they should not break either.
What I want to see, though, is the footage from the car you passed directly in front of at about 12 seconds in. That guy/gal had to be scared shitless.
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Careful what you wish for
Threaded the needle there god damn.
You made those other drivers shit their pants 😂
This is Tom, fellow Lemons racer, very interested in the type of cage, as in general shape. Maybe some pics post crash? Wondering about anything I can do to make my Pinto safer since it doesn't exactly have the crush zones your newer car does...
HOLY HECK! GLAD THE DRIVER WAS OK!
hanz FTW! epic crash, glad driver is ok, sorry about your car. :P
I was at the 2015 NJ race. We had problems with the carb flooding on braking. I was coming into the hairpin and lost the motor. So I let out the clutch while still in 3rd, got the engine back but immediately swung sideways into the turn. I ended up t-boning a busted up beamer which I didn't feel too bad about because it didn't leave a dent on him. My 87 foxbody was a different story though. I was sooooo pissed. What surprised me the most was it was a hard hit and I didn't even feel it.
So what happens after the crash since the guardrail is damaged? Do they put in another one or just continue on? Does the drive team have to pay for a new rail?
This is why a cage and Hans are so important!
Good job missing the other cars, how much did the track damage cost you? Took out some serious armco there.
Originally I thought you should have let the clutch out when you had no breaks but the timing between those two cars was so perfect it might have been a best case scenario you didn’t
Did you guys find out what failed? Brakes boiled or line ruptured or ???
Glad you're ok!
I’m shocked at his maneuvering skills
It pays to have safe reliable parts. I was expecting worse
Man he managed that fucking great considering.
Thank god he did, and thank god it was lemons, so even the financial loss is manageable.
Wow that was a serious head on collision....so was it a ruptured brake line? I saw you slamming the brakes..and nothing 😢
Thanks Bob Hubbaŕd and Jim Downing for the Hans!
glad you made it out ok!
Damn, I’m assuming the brakes went out based on his pumping the pedal. He handled the brake failure better that I could have.
Glad he's o.k., but......1) Why did it take so long for a safety worker to get to him and 2) that loose guard rail beam could have caused some serious injury. Both points need addressing, very quickly!
M3 BMW had an identical crash at an SCCA event in Thompson today.
Damn, thank God for that cage and HANS. :o
What exactly failed on the braking system?
Could have geared down to help minimise speed? Gears are for slowing, not just going?
That could have been so much worse for so many. Good job, but why no E-Brake?
"Jesus Christ, The fuck is this"
- Driver
So...the drill down is what caused the failure?...brake pads overheated, hot fluid, not enough meat on the pads, leak?
Not the sort of shit u want to happen again. We bleed and change fluid regularly, check pads n rotors and any possible hose leaks...trying to minimize the possibilities. No one wants a brake failure at 200kph.
Good to see ya alright, looked nasty
That was insane handling on that crash. Bravo lol
holy hell good threading there
THREADING THE NEEDLE LIKE A FUCKING GOD
NOT the 24hrs of Lemons at Thompson.
good job missing the other cars coming across grass-- srry about car
Brakes are considered safety equipment right? So aren’t you allowed to spend as much as you want on them?
Holy crap!
Turned the wheel anyway and pumped the brakes to try and get pressure back. Couldn't do anymore than that. Good thing the front didn't bite and turn while he was on the grass. Could have easily killed that corner worker.
Got really lucky there that you didn't hit anyone. Why not take the car to the inside, where you could have avoided the risk of spearing another car?
Godmason watch again. He would have hit two or more cars. That line was gone.
That was epic....
Way too many people shooting their mouths off here... But hey it's RUclips not a more mature platform. He had very little time in a situation that he has most likely never been in before, like most drivers, thankfully. All of 2 seconds after the first few pumps to realize he was screwed and do something. One thing that a lot of drivers are taught is both feet in and keep it straight. Engine braking in a Honda is marginal in my experience. No ebrake because stripped race car. His instinct was to either point to the longer runoff or avoid the closest car. I feel like I would have ridden it out straight ahead to avoid collecting other cars, but I don't think any of us are very well prepared for this kind of dynamic and unexpected situation to know for sure. Spinning intentionally there means you hit the grass sideways at highway speeds, assuming he was close to 90 to start since he did let off a bit. Our car is slower and hit 89 there IIRC. I would rather use the largest crumple zone available, the front. Imagine if he had hit the guard rail sideways... That rail end might have come in the window. Or you might roll. Both scary bad.
Like you say, it's not like he had a lot of time to formulate a plan.
Nice job sucking up all that energy . After impact i can see you taking a large breath and tilting your chin down in relief . Glad your good. Sorry about the car.
i call that a win WOW
No downshifting or ebrake? Coulda done more. Very lucky he didnt spike someone coming through the next corner
No Hans?
Oh maybe there was one.
@@jamiewolak hans are mandatory. there is a safey official at the end of the pit lane that stops the driver and checks the equipment before they are allowed to exit pit lane onto the track.
vicious
Once he hits the grass he is just along for the ride. my self I would have aimed for the other cars or the tires.
That makes you stupid and selfish.
Perhaps a better solution is to drag it along the outside barrier. As soon as he went for the inside I thought this was going to be a lot worse.
The worst thing you can do is try to make a turn that is un-makeable. Trying to do a turn you can't make usually just gets you into a roll , or sideways into a wall, neither of which is preferable. Remember that all the crush zones are in the front of the car. It's the strongest part of the frame, use it.
On every track, I know where I am going to steer to if the brakes are gone. There may be runnoffs or tires where you need but didn't expect them. Be mentally prepared.
One last comment, I understand that you tried to cut the turn in order to avoid creaming somebody in the rear. And it worked out. However, had this been a left turn and you t-boned someone, you would have probably killed them. Glad it worked out.
When you try to cut the corner in forza but end up crashing.
Honestly should I aimed for the MR2 they don't deserve to live lol on a serious note that was a hard crash probly gonna be sore glad you're OK
Not trying to be negative but why did he push the clutch in and then kept it in i would have used the engine to help slow the car down!!! i have been in my own share of wrecks and you cant panic but you need to try everything to slow the car down He would have been better off leaving the clutch alone and turn to the left more room and could have slowed down more and possibly just spun it instead he headed straight across the track for the wall.He had time to react differently.... Just my opinion as a DRIVER not just a fan
yeah. no skill at all. I do not understand why everyone praises at him, he didn't try to flick the car, use handbrake, kill the engine and downshift... nothing! all he did was get lucky the other drivers saw him and slowed down so he could hit the barrier. he did not do anything, was pure luck. We want our 2.5 hrs back! and also, I hope any of the other spin-outs were caused by his brake fluid. seriously people, check your damn cars!
way to be a d*ck
D and J Racing he's not wrong
Unskilled and stupid driver.
And the last time you lost your brakes at the end of the straight was....? Driver had presence of mind to pump em for what he could get and miss as much stuff as possible. Glad the driver is OK. It's the worst place on that track for that to happen.
@@cartryahoo First, he could use the handbrake to slow down the car (unskilled), second, he could go to the left side instead of going through the other cars (stupid).
You understand..?
I think its easier said then done. I bet the car has no hand brake and who knows what the left side would have resulted in. Maybe his call wasn't textbook perfect but everyone is alive so it was right
@@Stickman-be9pz where are your driving videos showing how skilled you are in an emergency situation?
What's he waiting for, the valet?