I'm rather certain this boss and a few others have input reading. The way she perfectly dodges some attacks often during the slight fire delay. Try fighting her where you simply don't attack and she will noticeably move around differently and a lot less. Once you understand that you can't just fire on her at any time but have to wait for an attack or right after she dodges another she is a lot easier to beat.
Lol please. There are regular enemies that read inputs. This game is rife with input reads just like Elden Ring. But we can boost catch them in a similar way that people roll catch in Elden Ring pvp so it kinda balances itself out.
It's more likely that instead of input reading, it's more about reflexes The bosses, even bad ones, in ER don't actually have input reading They just respond to your actions faster than any hueyman could which is what makes it seem as if there's input reading, not that it makes it any better
You can litteraly find videos of people attacking walls and lion guardians would jump left and right perfectly dodging an attack thrown at WALLS. @@it6647
Out of all the videos I've searched for Ayre, this is the BEST, by far. Because you don't use the Needle Stuns on your back (which almost cheese the fight - I have also used them with success). You have taken the time to analyze her attacks, and you actually KNOW what you are doing - if that makes sense. Also you have an empty weapon slot which you don't bother to use, which is insane tbh. I am going to beat her without the needle stuns- your video is great help. Well done!
Thx for the help- got her first try after this, I only got a bit after halfway before this. The only similarity in builds is the Zimmermans, otherwise all different parts.
Strange as it sounds, I won by treating her like pixy and missle jousted her and it's surprisingly effective. She only strikes once if you dodge into her sword rather than away. If her arm is out you qb once. If her arm is across her chest qb twice under her arm instead.
I used this strat with the sticking to the edge of the map strat and dual zimms and I beat her in 2 minutes got S rank on my replay with the same strat aswell lol
one thing I'd add, fighting her right at the ends of the map limits her mobility and makes it much easier to land shots. otherwise, great guides. thanks for making these
This should be pinned as it was a game changer for me, thanks for the tip. Once you have your back to the wall its much easier to land you shots knowing where she will be.
Excellent advice. I spent about an hour, came close, but could never close the deal. I just read your comment and tried it. Worked like a charm, first try! "Thanks buddy."
I used a very similar build but I switched to a shield because I didn’t feel like learning her sporadic sword timing and it saved me a lot of lost AP. I was able to beat her with just a few hundred AP left.
So in my play: 1) she every 5sec do a 720 degree spin around the arena and firing from every buthole she has (like 320 of them) 2) does 2 to 6 melee attacks per second after whatever.... 3) if I dodge her im aproximately 3km to far to do an DMG with my shotguns 4) if I stun her she is knocked 10km away and I cant close the distance in time and if I do she recover in 0,0003sec after stunned and procede to 1) 5) dodge all attacks but only if im firing.....even if shes stunned and Im backstabing her -.-""" 6) has some stupid 90% resistance to grenade cannon -.-""" 7) is always behind a "buildng" whenever Im firing 8) tracks her MEGA attacks even if Im in the different universe and hits me... but after 8h I just fire some STUN NEEDLES to her face!!!! and I can finaly go to sleep..... Soulsborne bosses are fine....AC bosses are FULLSTOP BS ON STEROINDS -.-"""""
my main issue is that i never use hard lock so i always lose track of her when she starts teleporting around the map. ive had bad experience with hard lock constantly losing lock or switching targets, probably because im constantly moving my mouse cuz im always using soft lock, idk
Hard lock and Stop touching the right stick.. seen this in another video the cam will keep up with her to the best of its ability, some cases its not meant for you to keep your eyes on them so I don't think it's possible to track them perfectly.. wish the Assault Boost was another button moving has a random chance of turning into a boost guaranteeing the @uckining.
You can also dodge under the blade attack if you dash toward her on the side she’s swiping from. That leaves you right next to her for shotgun blasts or melee. I also ended up going with the Nach legs for the extra jump distance.
Thank you for the "Boss Moves Breakdown" section. Knowing to fly over some of the attacks is what I needed. I used hands: double kinetic shotguns, and shoulders: double giant laser shotguns
I finally did it using this build. I used the same weapons but had a needle gun on me. I got lucky in the 2nd wave and stunned her and was able to hit with the pile bunker. Took me a while though lol.
2 hrs beating her. I did both drones release which you get 3 on 1 so total of six. I used the new armor before this mission. Super fast. My arms was dagger and hand gun. But it’s the dagger that does soo much damage. My drones stagger her. The gun is a distraction.
I also used 2 Zimmerman but songbird stun needle and reverse joints. For her first phase swords i actually dodge forward diagonal and we pass by each other instead.
I dont know why but, i copied your build exactly and im just not doing the same damage. The only difference is that i have an s rank (arena rank) so i got more upgrades like melee damage and repair kits. Any idea why?
*shoots ayre wit ha fully charge plasma canon* ah, it scratched her shield...yeah i really cant think of any reason to not abuse zimmermanns also, she has a hard time landing her sword if you dodge towards it
Boost is key. If it is high you could easily dodge those sword attacks. Also the vertical missile launcher does come in handy as does moderate damage and help you track Ayre
is every one playing some modded game how come he's still homing on her while she behind him ???????? camera follow enemy perfect whih is impossible in game !!
It's auto-lock and it is absolutely possible in-game. If you're playing on Xbox then just click down on the aiming stick to engage auto-lock. It lives up to it's name, but sacrifices some accuracy with your weaponry so if you're good at tracking targets then there's no need for it.
Final boss of the Fires of Raven route. If you wanna go that route then when presented with the choice to "Kill Carla" or "Fight V.I Freud" fight Freud. Do *not* Kill Carla as that leads to the LoR route instead.
This advice is bullshit because when I dodge back from her melee attacks she still reaches me.I have the boosters with the highest QB thrust rating. When she wants to hit you she will and when you attack she moves away at light speed. It’s an utterly unfair battle.
This boss is an example of why From is just one of the most overrated game developers of all times Most of their games are just tons of enemis with stupid IA and exaggerated powers and damage which no life nerds love cause makes feel them good in something
👀👀 "no life nerds love cause makes feel them good in something." Your comment applies to any one who play video games. This means your one of us, you should not be some hateful to your self.
You're Ayre looks really passive in comparison
RIGHT
Yea no shit I try this build then she’s running circles around me
It's because the more you attack her the more she attacks back. Just like CEL 240
Lol. Bruh I ran out of ammo trying this lol. That shield broke like twice.
Ibris again.
He’s just good , don’t let your mind deceive you
I'm rather certain this boss and a few others have input reading. The way she perfectly dodges some attacks often during the slight fire delay. Try fighting her where you simply don't attack and she will noticeably move around differently and a lot less. Once you understand that you can't just fire on her at any time but have to wait for an attack or right after she dodges another she is a lot easier to beat.
Thank you so much for that tip!!!!
Lol please. There are regular enemies that read inputs. This game is rife with input reads just like Elden Ring. But we can boost catch them in a similar way that people roll catch in Elden Ring pvp so it kinda balances itself out.
Shes afin BS on steroids -.-"""" but after 8h she got two STUN NEEDLES IN DA FACE and died at last....
It's more likely that instead of input reading, it's more about reflexes
The bosses, even bad ones, in ER don't actually have input reading
They just respond to your actions faster than any hueyman could which is what makes it seem as if there's input reading, not that it makes it any better
You can litteraly find videos of people attacking walls and lion guardians would jump left and right perfectly dodging an attack thrown at WALLS. @@it6647
Ayre: I know what you are....the fires that haunt Rubicon!
Me running double bad cook: Well, I'm glad someone noticed.
Yo, just crushed this boss thanks to your guide. Used a very similar build and loadout and got her first (re)try. Cheers!
Out of all the videos I've searched for Ayre, this is the BEST, by far. Because you don't use the Needle Stuns on your back (which almost cheese the fight - I have also used them with success). You have taken the time to analyze her attacks, and you actually KNOW what you are doing - if that makes sense. Also you have an empty weapon slot which you don't bother to use, which is insane tbh. I am going to beat her without the needle stuns- your video is great help. Well done!
Good advice, but this game, the worst of the worst when she sneak attacks right behind you all the time
Typical FS you see nothing trash Designers
I dunno about you but she was all over the board, new update
Thx for the help- got her first try after this, I only got a bit after halfway before this. The only similarity in builds is the Zimmermans, otherwise all different parts.
Strange as it sounds, I won by treating her like pixy and missle jousted her and it's surprisingly effective. She only strikes once if you dodge into her sword rather than away. If her arm is out you qb once. If her arm is across her chest qb twice under her arm instead.
OMFG TY!!! Don't dodge backwards, may be my build, but the boost doesn't carry you out of it's range. Backshots eat her up
I used this strat with the sticking to the edge of the map strat and dual zimms and I beat her in 2 minutes
got S rank on my replay with the same strat aswell lol
one thing I'd add, fighting her right at the ends of the map limits her mobility and makes it much easier to land shots.
otherwise, great guides. thanks for making these
This should be pinned as it was a game changer for me, thanks for the tip. Once you have your back to the wall its much easier to land you shots knowing where she will be.
Yeah, unfortunately, I learned this the hard way. Smh
Ffs beat Ayre the first retry with this
You have no idea how much this helped, I defeated her with one repair kit still available.
Excellent advice. I spent about an hour, came close, but could never close the deal. I just read your comment and tried it. Worked like a charm, first try! "Thanks buddy."
I used a very similar build but I switched to a shield because I didn’t feel like learning her sporadic sword timing and it saved me a lot of lost AP. I was able to beat her with just a few hundred AP left.
What shield did you use?
So in my play:
1) she every 5sec do a 720 degree spin around the arena and firing from every buthole she has (like 320 of them)
2) does 2 to 6 melee attacks per second after whatever....
3) if I dodge her im aproximately 3km to far to do an DMG with my shotguns
4) if I stun her she is knocked 10km away and I cant close the distance in time and if I do she recover in 0,0003sec after stunned and procede to 1)
5) dodge all attacks but only if im firing.....even if shes stunned and Im backstabing her -.-"""
6) has some stupid 90% resistance to grenade cannon -.-"""
7) is always behind a "buildng" whenever Im firing
8) tracks her MEGA attacks even if Im in the different universe and hits me...
but after 8h I just fire some STUN NEEDLES to her face!!!! and I can finaly go to sleep.....
Soulsborne bosses are fine....AC bosses are FULLSTOP BS ON STEROINDS -.-"""""
my main issue is that i never use hard lock so i always lose track of her when she starts teleporting around the map. ive had bad experience with hard lock constantly losing lock or switching targets, probably because im constantly moving my mouse cuz im always using soft lock, idk
Bro I use nothing but hard lock and I can’t keep track of the teleporting. Second phase is such bullshit.
I can confirm, if you're hard locked and move the camera the hard lock breaks
Hard lock and Stop touching the right stick.. seen this in another video the cam will keep up with her to the best of its ability, some cases its not meant for you to keep your eyes on them so I don't think it's possible to track them perfectly.. wish the Assault Boost was another button moving has a random chance of turning into a boost guaranteeing the @uckining.
You can also dodge under the blade attack if you dash toward her on the side she’s swiping from. That leaves you right next to her for shotgun blasts or melee. I also ended up going with the Nach legs for the extra jump distance.
watched this video and immediately beat her right after, thanks
Thank you for the "Boss Moves Breakdown" section. Knowing to fly over some of the attacks is what I needed.
I used hands: double kinetic shotguns, and shoulders: double giant laser shotguns
When my character is in slow motion from an attack she’s at regular speed and just moves out of the way 🤷♂️
This helps me a ton! Suddenly Ayre becomes so easy. Thanks mate!
Bro, this vid helped soo much. Ur acc a legend for this 😁😁😁
I finally did it using this build. I used the same weapons but had a needle gun on me. I got lucky in the 2nd wave and stunned her and was able to hit with the pile bunker. Took me a while though lol.
The second phase should be named "Ayre, Valkyrie of Coral"
Finally beat the boss thanks to this build!
2 hrs beating her. I did both drones release which you get 3 on 1 so total of six. I used the new armor before this mission. Super fast. My arms was dagger and hand gun. But it’s the dagger that does soo much damage. My drones stagger her. The gun is a distraction.
yeah the shield isnt a problem its the insane mobility so u keep losing her from ur sight
I also used 2 Zimmerman but songbird stun needle and reverse joints. For her first phase swords i actually dodge forward diagonal and we pass by each other instead.
Beat her after 3 tries with this build thanks! Never used the weapon switch ever this shits op haha
I dont know why but, i copied your build exactly and im just not doing the same damage. The only difference is that i have an s rank (arena rank) so i got more upgrades like melee damage and repair kits. Any idea why?
There was a nerf on the Zimmermanns and Stun-needles a while back, but after this vid was posted.
*shoots ayre wit ha fully charge plasma canon*
ah, it scratched her shield...yeah i really cant think of any reason to not abuse zimmermanns
also, she has a hard time landing her sword if you dodge towards it
That literally came at me and launch me in the air LOL this game literally said fuck you
Just beat on my third attempt with all shotguns, Dual Zimmerman and sweet sixteens.
Boost is key. If it is high you could easily dodge those sword attacks. Also the vertical missile launcher does come in handy as does moderate damage and help you track Ayre
0:57 uh…… I’ve learned one thing when trying to beat her is that she walks like ***** JoJo
nice tips
do u get her armor set after the fight?
bro I can't doge that sword attack, do you press back A to jump or back X to doge that, I always get hit...@@StrelokSarchenkov9405
@@StrelokSarchenkov9405 that’s sad and unfair
I heard you can get her armor from finding all the data logs. But idk if it's true
The ashmede isn’t available on first run through.
I’m on my first play through and I have it. Pretty sure you find it.
Double Fasan, Zimms worked for me… eventually
Your Ayre it’s not my ayre
How the hell is she behaving like yours, mine it’s literally combo after combo and I didn’t even attack her
What did you do to her to piss her off that much?
@@xHolmesWalkthroughsx7 I don’t know man 😭😭😭😭
is every one playing some modded game how come he's still homing on her while she behind him ???????? camera follow enemy perfect whih is impossible in game !!
It's auto-lock and it is absolutely possible in-game. If you're playing on Xbox then just click down on the aiming stick to engage auto-lock. It lives up to it's name, but sacrifices some accuracy with your weaponry so if you're good at tracking targets then there's no need for it.
Only thing making this boss hard in anyway is those stanky ass shields, same goes for any biss in the game
Idk. Every time I dodge she just auto tracks me.
I tried over 50 times i give up
I see you overboost straight at her and she doesn’t move. She never stays still like that when I fight her.
So since the zimmers and needlers got nerfed.any ideaon how to beat her ? The shield wont go down
Man, this whole time I didn't realize that you had your auto lock on. I always figured that it was on but nope. Learn something new.
When I first seen her I said not again😑
Zimmermans? I gotta get gud😩
how do you fight her? in what chapter?
Final boss of the Fires of Raven route. If you wanna go that route then when presented with the choice to "Kill Carla" or "Fight V.I Freud" fight Freud. Do *not* Kill Carla as that leads to the LoR route instead.
Zimmerman is overrated
Ok nevermind I heavily take back what i just said
Just dodge the missiles bro!
This advice is bullshit because when I dodge back from her melee attacks she still reaches me.I have the boosters with the highest QB thrust rating. When she wants to hit you she will and when you attack she moves away at light speed. It’s an utterly unfair battle.
Nope. Not one bit of this works as shown...seriously.
Yeah cause the Zimmermanns and Stun-needles got nerfed between then and now.
@@thebastard890 nerf of a single player game?! how petty are the developers
@@Mr360attack there is a multiplayer mode
Wow so annoying the background music !
This boss is an example of why From is just one of the most overrated game developers of all times
Most of their games are just tons of enemis with stupid IA and exaggerated powers and damage which no life nerds love cause makes feel them good in something
👀👀 "no life nerds love cause makes feel them good in something." Your comment applies to any one who play video games.
This means your one of us, you should not be some hateful to your self.
wow thanks youtube spoilors.
Then don't watch dumbass.
People need a guide for this? I 2 tried her with dual zimmerman's, right shoudder SOUP launcher and spare moonlight blade on left shoulder...
Wow your so good at the game!
Damn you're so good bro
I don’t blame people for struggling but to look up a guide for it is ruining a big part of the game. Experimentation is a massive part of this game
@@sy7hyes but also we all know some of our experiment will literally make us drive mad and not enjoy and everyone build gone down to simple
Then why did you pull this guide up just like us? 😂