@@siriuslyepic308 A holster?? I prefer to keep mine tucked reliably in my waistband, so I can keep perfect eye contact with the officer as i reach for it.
I mag dumped the first person I saw doing this. When I got marked down and was so confused. The second time I waited, and was like you gotta be kidding.
Haha yea, had my first one the other day, they do move really slow though so kind of gave away they werent going for a gun, I'll be carrying a taser or tear gas just for them I think 🤔🤣
I don't know what to say, but on the first mission (gas statio) one with face mask first surrenders with no gun, then comes with a gun while I was close by and have shoot on another one, he gets shoot, surrenders then comes with another weapon, gets shoot, surrenders and gets cuffed He has scared me, now I use a shootgun and who doesn't give up on first chance eats metal. Has worked great also on longer distance, the guy got his leg shoot of
It took me 30 seconds to realize the full gravity of what they just dropped. So many players are going to map-dump civs because of this Edit: Oh no they added it to the game
@@bennyboygames4195 there are heaps of stuff that the devs don't "simulate" Like why the hell are there explosive traps on doors? Real SWAT do not bother lockpicking doors. If a door is locked, it's going to be smashed open. Also, why is there only 5 SWAT members going into a raid/situation? This isn't some black op special force operation
Man, I oughta start carrying non-lethals after I saw this. Raiding a CP studio and she has the audacity to use flash on me lmao. That deserves a bean bag.
Never understand the irl mentality of "oh you're an anxious cop with a carbine pointed at my chest? Lemme just whip out something small and flashy in a split second" at some point you win a darwin award when dealing with cops
Maybe because the cops are supposedly professionals who deal with it every day, instead of being dumb gamers who have no consequences for actual real murder?
I wanna know an actual occurrence of this because I swear it makes no sense that in a situation with active gunmen - why the hell would anyone take a photo of a cop????? Almost feels like more annoying fluff and bull to piss off the player.
just comply (only in the US or other free countries in the west where federal or state agents have the least amount of rights over you as possible while still maintaining their power...) and fight them in a battle you have a chance at winning: trial.
I hate that, one time I had a civilian literally do a light jog right into the middle of my gun fight one time. He got a buckshot shell to the dome and needless to say didn’t make it😂
This is a big Thing in Germany rn, Kids in Schools with Terror Threats are just filming the GSG9 Units, pulling out phones, reaching in their Bags etc. The Policemen are obviously replying aggressively to that and some People just absolutely fail to see the Gravity of these Actions, it's insane how closeminded some People are.
@@PunchingCacti Cop training in the US is only a couple of months. That's why so many of them A.) Don't know the laws B.) Have power trips/panic attacks C.) shoot at acorns
I like how they get into a shooting stance and start reaching in the most suspicious way possible just to grab their phone or badge in an active shooter situation lol
They should have a secret Easter egg super rare animation where there's a chance people pull it out stupidly fast like those memes lol. Civi would definitely die but it'd make for a silly moment.
I'm happy that allot of the elements they're adding to this game show off just how shades of grey police work actually is, and it doesn't even begin to scratch the surface.
@@yourfriend8052 In case armed SWAT members with flashlights, rifles, and a big "fuck off" ballistic shield all simultaneously screaming "hands up!" at you wasn't incentive enough to NOT reach for your pockets. I gotta ask though - wouldn't a police officer have training to... not do exactly that when confronted in this scenario? Even the animation for pulling out a badge looks particularlly rough in this video.
Please add screaming NPCs “stay away from my girl/boyfriend! I want your badge number!” While grabbing your shirt or harass you when the suspect gets shot by pushing you or staying in front of you no matter where you go, they are accurate on how Civs use their body to shield the armed suspects. Just to piss players off.
@@walterclements_ there actually is. In the Voll house. (Valley of the Dolls) Daniela Voll, although a civilian, will actually actively resist and argue with officers. She starts as a civilian, but if she becomes combative, then the game could consider her a suspect.
I think this is a good addition. This will make situations so much trickier to deal with but this def happens irl. I just hope there's no score penalty if players do end up shooting the civis in these cases. (Maybe a higher than usual score bonus if players correctly identifies/reacts to these being civi pulling harmless objects?)
@@c130fan irl, such sudden and drastic movement will warrant use of lethal force. Even if it turned out to be a harmless object because, during the moment, it would have been impossible to identify. It COULD have been a weapon, and that possibility combined with the individual's failure to comply would warrant use of lethal force.
@@fishswat1 irl, there wouldn't be a 5 man squad taking out a terrorist group barricaded in a hospital. The whole point of the squad in the lore is, they're basically SOF who operate as a SWAT unit and hold themselves accountable accordingly
@@c130fan Yes, hence it still makes sense to use lethal force where it is warranted, and in a situation like this, police will not be taking any chances. Hesitation of less than half a sec can result in tragedy had it actually turn out to be a weapon being pulled
I remember we shot a woman because of this. She was about to be cuffed and we thought she was reaching for a knife. She quickly learned you do not move your hands when you have a scared guy with an submachinegun on you.
@John Smith haha OK hero. You keep thinking that. But at least at the same time if a swat team is in your home then they are clearly there for a damn good reason. So it would make since for you to not want to go quietly. Do you boo boo. I'm talking about a video game you in here taking shit personally.
In order to help the officer on the traffic stop, be sure to get out of your car and sprint towards them so they have less travel time. As well, reach quickly for your identification so as to not waste the officer’s time. He will appreciate your cooperation.
That actually happens in RoN already. Sometimes a suspect dressed as a civ “surrenders” and quick-draws a pistol as soon as you move closer. Happened a lot to me on the mission Relapse especially
And then you have the ladies who forgot their purses while crossing a gunfight between suspects and SWAT, because their purses are like a guy's browser history.
Sucks for the guy who's already trained his unconscious mind to double-tap any npc that moves their hand so much as a millimeter with the reaction speed of Goku's ultra-instinct while he's on stardust ultra-adderall.
I see folks saying “oh now people are going to mag dump civvies” I’ve found most the playerbase already were. They treat the game more like a police brutality simulator or a standard shooter like insurgency. Most of em wouldn’t last a mission in SWAT4 which punishes you WAY harder for breaking the rules.
@@BoomerChris shoot a guy with a gun who hasn’t shot at you yet? Penalty. Guy with a gun is running away from you and you pop him in the back? Penalty. Single civilian gets hit and killed during a crossfire? Instant mission failure. Shoot a guy through a window who hasn’t seen you yet? Penalty. Shoot a guy through a door? Penalty. And that’s with the game making a huge difference between unauthorized use of force and unauthorized use of DEADLY force. SWAT4 made it so you approached each room super carefully but had plenty of options for going in and incentivized using non lethal methods. Primary and secondary non lethal grenade launchers offering sting, flash, gas or baton rounds. Pepperball guns that did a damn. Beanbag shotguns. Two different types of tazers. Pepperspray. Like I get it. I like ready or not as well but trying to do non lethal or careful play goes out the window when it’s a bunch of hooting dickholes who’d much rather just shoot up a room. Also the maps have a issue of always being too damn big for their own good. I’ll be going through a mission and get to what I think is the end and then there’s another full map left to search. Looking at you, vineyard map, the new hospital map, and the post office map.
@@thegreatgoatking.kingofall4001 a lot of that stuff is in ready or not now right? In barricaded suspects you have to identify yourself by shouting or get a penalty etc. I'm with you on the maps, I love the tunnel system in farm and that's about it 🤣 I would love to see a hardcore mode where you can only make say 3 mistakes then the mission ends in a fail
@@BoomerChris RoN has looser ROE as the penalties for unauthorized use of force are very minimal. You could get away with a passing grade even if you go full psycho on the suspects.
This isn’t actually that hard to avoid. After 380 hours you start to notice the character models that are civis and which ones aren’t so honestly this isn’t a real problem till they make it were there are so many different models
Nice hours 👌🏻 yea but in the hospital map I s*** myself when someone in a Dr/nurse outfit shot at me 🤣 if one of those were to reach for a phone now they might not survive 🤣
@@BoomerChris omg sorry sorry I wasn’t trying to flex my hours my bad, I was just trying to say that with hours comes the ability to anticipate what a character model will do, that’s all, omg yeah those scrub fuckers definitely made me a little more sus to all other scrubs lol I prolly would shoot them too if they reached for a phone haha
i remember i was doing one of the missions, pretty sure it was neon tomb or something. Some lady stood there for 5 seconds without surrendering while i was shouting and she reached for her phone. 1 tapped her straight in the face, thought i did the right thing until I heard “Check your ROE, don’t kill civilians”
@@BoomerChris Void has this need to add in new animations while the previous animations are buggy as hell. New mechanics or stuff like the coffee machine that really dont fix the core issues.
For a super realistic game focused on actually showing off what the police and SWAT have to go through in some cases, this is an amazing showcase of making people realize the split second reactions and thoughts you need to have as a officer to make a call between hostile and civilian.
this cop life , watch body cam of Real life police, they deal with so much stress and unpreditable situations, you cant go shootout mode in this game , this is not a cs go or overwatch.
Absolutely, the only problem with the game pre update is the suspect AI would draw a gun and shoot you dead in milliseconds so you'd have to act fast, may well be fixed in the update 🤞
I am imagining myself as a hostage in a situation like that. I can't think of a SINGLE FUCKING REASON to pull put my phone and take pictures of the swat team pointing their guns at me with the flash of camera on ayylmao
@@BoomerChris yeah maybe have a system for if theyre able to have it out in clear view before you can put them down deduct points for shooting them after but like if you get em as soon as they reach dont deduct but i think that could be a finnicky system to get right
@@BoomerChris Irl swat officers are trained to have fast reactiont timnes, especially for things like this. So I guess just implement that into how you play too.
I swear the police officer especially... Who in his right mind with proper training and experience with such situations is like yeah reaching for my ID unasked is the best way
Thou what happened is very unfortunate as he lost his life, what civis need to understand is that being in that situation is also very stressful for the police. If the Police tell u to put ur hands up and get down you must follow right away or risk getting shot. The police will automatically search for ur identification, and you can communicate with them while doing so.
This makes me realize that, hypothetically, it would be safer to reach for your identification with the side that you have it turned towards the officer. Like, both animations shown have their items on their right side and have their left side towards the officer. Meaning it would probably be more likely for an officer to think they are reaching for a weapon.
I’m sorry but I’ve been almost killed by people grabbing knives and pistols as I try to cuff them. That I’m just gonna instinctively put half a mag in their chest to forego that risk. I mean now we kinda don’t have to do that anymore because Adam update helps with the instant aimbot. Still a 50/50 for me on if I wait for the “phone”.
"TOC this is entry team, one in custody." TOC: In sheer terror after seeing 5 camera angels of the whole team magdumping a civ with every caliber after pulling out a funny little rectangle.
From what I've heard it will be an undercover cop in one of the maps, chances are they'd still detain them until the scene is clear and can verify who they are 🤷🏼♂️
Last night I was in a mission, and a civilian started taking pictures of me. But mid flash a hostile opened a door and nearly killed me. Luckily I killed him and closed the door. After I restrained the civilian me and my team beat him up by muzzle ramming him. I don't care if we got points taken away for unauthorized force
No its because you might have to neutralize the person because they could be reaching for a gun, in which case they will get shot. If you were being held at gunpoint being ordered, and you reach for your phone, they _CAN_ assume that you are reaching for a gun and they _WILL_ fire at you.
honestly its easy to tell when theyre grabbing id than a gun, civilians will fish around for it, hostiles will draw quick, as long as youre trained on them you can tell
She just had to make an update, that yes shes still in the building that's currently being held up, but also that she is ok specifically to her family at this exact moment in time! While being currently given instructions or should be waiting for them by the extra, nice, super, strong, swat guys; She also 600% hopes the flash dose not distract the good guys or attract bad guys in any way! Because she 100% cares about everyone and her current situation ITSTHEPERFECTPLAN
Lmao that camera flash is going to cost someone a mag.
🤣🤣🤣
A nightmare situation.
The first time I ran into this (a week ago maybe?) A lady took about four slugs to the chest
no evidence shall be leaked
:insert demonstration how a gun works with free bird music:
its literally the meme of those guys who suggest pulling out your ID as fast as you can to not hold up the officer and make a car stop proceed faster
LMFAO that video is hilarious
FRR IM LITERALLY LAUGHING ABT THAT THE WHOLE TIME 🤣
ID holster
“Life hack of how to not get a ticket when you get pulled over”
@@cartercummiskey9995death hack
"Don't shoot me!"
-Angrily reaches for pocket
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Black people be like:
@@angelvargas127naw
@@angelvargas127 woke 😅
@@angelvargas127non-racist people be like:
(Same)
Me pulling my identification out as fast as possible so i don’t waste the officer’s time
🎶 Can't believe we've fallen out of line, out of line 🎶
While saying "Im not going back to jail!" to inform the officer you are a law abiding citizen
I'm glad this and the other near top comment are right next to each other lmao
Also keep it in a holster! Let's you pull it out even faster and waste even less time!
@@siriuslyepic308 A holster?? I prefer to keep mine tucked reliably in my waistband, so I can keep perfect eye contact with the officer as i reach for it.
I mag dumped the first person I saw doing this. When I got marked down and was so confused. The second time I waited, and was like you gotta be kidding.
Haha yea, had my first one the other day, they do move really slow though so kind of gave away they werent going for a gun, I'll be carrying a taser or tear gas just for them I think 🤔🤣
@@BoomerChris Carry some Pepper Spray and bring them into a World of Orange :)
i get it's just a game but holy shit, implications of that is insane.
I don't know what to say, but on the first mission (gas statio) one with face mask first surrenders with no gun, then comes with a gun while I was close by and have shoot on another one, he gets shoot, surrenders then comes with another weapon, gets shoot, surrenders and gets cuffed
He has scared me, now I use a shootgun and who doesn't give up on first chance eats metal. Has worked great also on longer distance, the guy got his leg shoot of
Now everyone knows why police are so twitchy
"It's my legal right to record yo-"
the 30 bullets flying towards them:
facts 😂
31* bullets a second lol
missisipi queen
*the 22 caliber bullets' honest reaction:*
@@monke4844*guitar riff*
It took me 30 seconds to realize the full gravity of what they just dropped.
So many players are going to map-dump civs because of this
Edit: Oh no they added it to the game
I can't wait to play it later
yeah combined that with suspects being jerry miculek in terms of the quick draw
No that means they’ll need to process the situation before firing. There is no indicator in real life. And this game is supposed to simulate that.
@@bennyboygames4195 there are heaps of stuff that the devs don't "simulate"
Like why the hell are there explosive traps on doors? Real SWAT do not bother lockpicking doors. If a door is locked, it's going to be smashed open.
Also, why is there only 5 SWAT members going into a raid/situation? This isn't some black op special force operation
@@bennyboygames4195 people in that situation would say,"I'm a cop! here's my ID!" not," look *quick draws ID*"
Civilian...i in danger, but first 'Let me get a selfie'!
Oooo let's take a picture of the officers with guns shouting at me 😜
@@BoomerChris 'real life immersion gameplay '😂
People are totally dumb enough to do this.
Man, I oughta start carrying non-lethals after I saw this. Raiding a CP studio and she has the audacity to use flash on me lmao. That deserves a bean bag.
I'm carrying either a taser or pepper spray just for these now
A WHAT studio??? Jesus Christ that’s fucked
That shit deserves a AP
And more reasons that I won't be reaccepted into police academy
4-month comment but..
Why the PFP?
@@user-wv1wz7oo9f It's my favorite character tragedy in literature.
Never understand the irl mentality of "oh you're an anxious cop with a carbine pointed at my chest? Lemme just whip out something small and flashy in a split second" at some point you win a darwin award when dealing with cops
Maybe because the cops are supposedly professionals who deal with it every day, instead of being dumb gamers who have no consequences for actual real murder?
I wanna know an actual occurrence of this because I swear it makes no sense that in a situation with active gunmen - why the hell would anyone take a photo of a cop?????
Almost feels like more annoying fluff and bull to piss off the player.
just comply (only in the US or other free countries in the west where federal or state agents have the least amount of rights over you as possible while still maintaining their power...) and fight them in a battle you have a chance at winning: trial.
Tells you something about cops lmao
@@homiepat5469 what do you do if you do comply and get shot lmao
“I’m flexing my rights I can record” the suspect directly behind with a gun 😎edit: I’m still very disappointed in the release state if Ron
🤣🤣
I hate that, one time I had a civilian literally do a light jog right into the middle of my gun fight one time. He got a buckshot shell to the dome and needless to say didn’t make it😂
@@Litfilmz certainly simulates the struggles of police/swat 🤣
@@Litfilmz cool, but what about the in-game situations?
They dont have to reach for their phone or identification.
Ill spray them anyway
This is a big Thing in Germany rn, Kids in Schools with Terror Threats are just filming the GSG9 Units, pulling out phones, reaching in their Bags etc. The Policemen are obviously replying aggressively to that and some People just absolutely fail to see the Gravity of these Actions, it's insane how closeminded some People are.
If gsg9 is in the area, people should probably move away from the scene.
they should give the ability for NPCs to shout "fentanyl" which will immediately crash the game to desktop
This made me chuckle.
"FENNY"
"waltuuhh, im a cop now waltuh. I got a badge and everything waltuh."
“DO NOT REACH! DO NOT REACH! STOP REACHING! DO NOT R-“
*BLAM BLAM BLAM*
“998 shots fired”
They should add "I don't have to listen to you, I know my rights!"
Well to be fair a lot of cops in america don't know wat RAS or probable cause actually are
@@PunchingCacti Cop training in the US is only a couple of months. That's why so many of them A.) Don't know the laws B.) Have power trips/panic attacks C.) shoot at acorns
"I hope Twitter likes the new hole in your head"
😂😂
*shoots*
I like how they get into a shooting stance and start reaching in the most suspicious way possible just to grab their phone or badge in an active shooter situation lol
They should have a secret Easter egg super rare animation where there's a chance people pull it out stupidly fast like those memes lol. Civi would definitely die but it'd make for a silly moment.
Nexus users withing 2 minute of this update releasing
I'm happy that allot of the elements they're adding to this game show off just how shades of grey police work actually is, and it doesn't even begin to scratch the surface.
The game is set to become the best police simulator ever
Right? I'd like to have people who hate cops for silly reasons play this game, and see how they react.
@@FalonGrey force them to run the equivelent to an irl situation, then after ask them to write a report and answer all the questions that get asked.
@@deezboyeed6764 they’d report that more education is required for these kinds of positions lmfaooooo
@@FalonGreyI don't know anyone who's a cop hater for silly reasons.
I feel like the critiques I know are very fair.
“HERES MY ID-“
famous last words
My memelord brain:
"Look at this photograph"
"Yes.. She's dead.. Yup.. Wait a sec... Yes... Twitter user... Aha.. So no problems right?.. right?"
🙈🙈🙈
Right.
What an insanely weird thing and terminally online thing to say
Yep
@@xXEGPXx ok then..
I love the woman’s first reaction is to take a picture of the swat officer pointing a gun at her
With flash at that.
Now introducing: The Wallet Holster
“Oh sh*t, that’s a gun” *proceeds to reach for phone like drawing a gun*
dude is basically an american cop "they're asking to get shot reaching like that" 💀
I mean they are, do not reach if an officer is aiming a gun at you, that is your fault.
@@yourfriend8052 In case armed SWAT members with flashlights, rifles, and a big "fuck off" ballistic shield all simultaneously screaming "hands up!" at you wasn't incentive enough to NOT reach for your pockets. I gotta ask though - wouldn't a police officer have training to... not do exactly that when confronted in this scenario? Even the animation for pulling out a badge looks particularlly rough in this video.
@@x007hunterx4 Yes, they would. Typically they’d ask to show them if the uniform wasn’t enough proof that they’re on the same side.
Please add screaming NPCs “stay away from my girl/boyfriend! I want your badge number!” While grabbing your shirt or harass you when the suspect gets shot by pushing you or staying in front of you no matter where you go, they are accurate on how Civs use their body to shield the armed suspects. Just to piss players off.
we need a screaming woman to be just onsite whenever something happens
Maybe have it happen with every single civvie if you've pirated the game
Someone also has to be yelling sidewalk 24/7 whenever the player is doing something
@@walterclements_ there actually is. In the Voll house. (Valley of the Dolls)
Daniela Voll, although a civilian, will actually actively resist and argue with officers. She starts as a civilian, but if she becomes combative, then the game could consider her a suspect.
You charge a SWAT team trying to grab his shirt they're gonna drop you, dude. 😂😂
"It's legal for me to reco-!"
* The 9mm bullet careening straight towards their glabella. *
Reaching for anything behind your back when the guy is pointing a ak 47 at you is a good way of going to meet your maker
I think this is a good addition.
This will make situations so much trickier to deal with but this def happens irl.
I just hope there's no score penalty if players do end up shooting the civis in these cases. (Maybe a higher than usual score bonus if players correctly identifies/reacts to these being civi pulling harmless objects?)
Might be hard to tell the difference in the dark maps too
Of course there should be a score penalty -- you shot an unarmed civvie
@@c130fan irl, such sudden and drastic movement will warrant use of lethal force. Even if it turned out to be a harmless object because, during the moment, it would have been impossible to identify. It COULD have been a weapon, and that possibility combined with the individual's failure to comply would warrant use of lethal force.
@@fishswat1 irl, there wouldn't be a 5 man squad taking out a terrorist group barricaded in a hospital. The whole point of the squad in the lore is, they're basically SOF who operate as a SWAT unit and hold themselves accountable accordingly
@@c130fan Yes, hence it still makes sense to use lethal force where it is warranted, and in a situation like this, police will not be taking any chances. Hesitation of less than half a sec can result in tragedy had it actually turn out to be a weapon being pulled
This in addition of the disguise occurrence that suspects do every so often, will be super dangerous, like he said, they are asking to be shot
I s*** myself when running the hospital map and a doctor/nurse pulled a gun on me 🤣
I remember we shot a woman because of this. She was about to be cuffed and we thought she was reaching for a knife. She quickly learned you do not move your hands when you have a scared guy with an submachinegun on you.
This has happened to me once already, poor guy died over a phone. The stress is real in this game and I love it.
You're not supposed to fire unless you "see" a gun
@John Smith yeah cause everyone is so calm to wait to be someone else target. No it's you don't reach and you live.
@@KYROkills I'll reach for whatever the fuck I feel like in my own home.
@John Smith haha OK hero. You keep thinking that. But at least at the same time if a swat team is in your home then they are clearly there for a damn good reason. So it would make since for you to not want to go quietly. Do you boo boo. I'm talking about a video game you in here taking shit personally.
@@JohnSmith-fq3rgif a officer says "Hands up." DO.NOT.FUCKING.REACH
First time this happened to me I was lucky cuz "Bring order to chaos" was already crossed out so I knew they couldn't harm me
This gives me the same vibe of this meme about a wallet holster being very bad design for this exact reason, and I love it.
In order to help the officer on the traffic stop, be sure to get out of your car and sprint towards them so they have less travel time. As well, reach quickly for your identification so as to not waste the officer’s time. He will appreciate your cooperation.
It's okay, officer. I always hold my ID in a convenient hip holster, just gimme a sec!
“Merrily we fall out of line, out of line. I’d fall anywhere with you, I’m by your side” 💀💀
I had someone do this and was just sitting their watching her do it like:
“Ma’am, we are a swat team. We have a very good reason to be here.”
Just wait until they add acorns💀
Cool idea, makes suspects that look like civilians but have a gun holstered with the same pull out animation though to actually make it a threat
That actually happens in RoN already. Sometimes a suspect dressed as a civ “surrenders” and quick-draws a pistol as soon as you move closer.
Happened a lot to me on the mission Relapse especially
@@conripolar yeah most enemies in Relapse are disguised as civilians and doctors
A girl in valley of dolls literally pulled out phone clicked photos and then surrendered 😂😂
And then you have the ladies who forgot their purses while crossing a gunfight between suspects and SWAT, because their purses are like a guy's browser history.
Sucks for the guy who's already trained his unconscious mind to double-tap any npc that moves their hand so much as a millimeter with the reaction speed of Goku's ultra-instinct while he's on stardust ultra-adderall.
This is a really good feature, shows people why cops don't want people pulling shit out like phones during incidents
playing ready or not made me understand cops a lot more than I did previously
"Their reaching!" 💥💥💥
I would’ve dumped an entire mag the moment their hands moved to their backs, that’s actually very dangerous and clever detail to be very careful about
Especially if it happens I'm the dark
I see folks saying “oh now people are going to mag dump civvies”
I’ve found most the playerbase already were. They treat the game more like a police brutality simulator or a standard shooter like insurgency.
Most of em wouldn’t last a mission in SWAT4 which punishes you WAY harder for breaking the rules.
What happens in swat 4?
@@BoomerChris shoot a guy with a gun who hasn’t shot at you yet? Penalty.
Guy with a gun is running away from you and you pop him in the back? Penalty.
Single civilian gets hit and killed during a crossfire? Instant mission failure.
Shoot a guy through a window who hasn’t seen you yet? Penalty.
Shoot a guy through a door? Penalty.
And that’s with the game making a huge difference between unauthorized use of force and unauthorized use of DEADLY force.
SWAT4 made it so you approached each room super carefully but had plenty of options for going in and incentivized using non lethal methods.
Primary and secondary non lethal grenade launchers offering sting, flash, gas or baton rounds. Pepperball guns that did a damn. Beanbag shotguns. Two different types of tazers. Pepperspray.
Like I get it. I like ready or not as well but trying to do non lethal or careful play goes out the window when it’s a bunch of hooting dickholes who’d much rather just shoot up a room.
Also the maps have a issue of always being too damn big for their own good. I’ll be going through a mission and get to what I think is the end and then there’s another full map left to search.
Looking at you, vineyard map, the new hospital map, and the post office map.
@@thegreatgoatking.kingofall4001 a lot of that stuff is in ready or not now right? In barricaded suspects you have to identify yourself by shouting or get a penalty etc.
I'm with you on the maps, I love the tunnel system in farm and that's about it 🤣
I would love to see a hardcore mode where you can only make say 3 mistakes then the mission ends in a fail
@@BoomerChris RoN has looser ROE as the penalties for unauthorized use of force are very minimal. You could get away with a passing grade even if you go full psycho on the suspects.
@@CantoniaCustoms Yea the penalties should be higher
“Holy crap he’s gonna shoot me! I better take a photo real quick”
The girl: I'm blind, please
Also the girl: *pulls out her phone for pictures*
Smi7y and the gang won’t even wait for them to reach for anything
Never reach for your phone like that 💀
An operator with PTSD will have a fun time with the flash of that camera
Realistic situation: they would get shot for that shit
This isn’t actually that hard to avoid. After 380 hours you start to notice the character models that are civis and which ones aren’t so honestly this isn’t a real problem till they make it were there are so many different models
Nice hours 👌🏻 yea but in the hospital map I s*** myself when someone in a Dr/nurse outfit shot at me 🤣 if one of those were to reach for a phone now they might not survive 🤣
@@BoomerChris omg sorry sorry I wasn’t trying to flex my hours my bad, I was just trying to say that with hours comes the ability to anticipate what a character model will do, that’s all, omg yeah those scrub fuckers definitely made me a little more sus to all other scrubs lol I prolly would shoot them too if they reached for a phone haha
@@summergamers3070 haha I didn't mean to make it sound like I thought you were flexing either 🤣 genuinely nice hours 😁👍
Honestly if anything we need to have more suspects disguised as civs or outright hostile civs
"I'm fine please" *reaches for phone* me: bad move lady
“Never may we fall out of line” 💀
i remember i was doing one of the missions, pretty sure it was neon tomb or something. Some lady stood there for 5 seconds without surrendering while i was shouting and she reached for her phone. 1 tapped her straight in the face, thought i did the right thing until I heard “Check your ROE, don’t kill civilians”
They really be doing that meme
Cop: Don't move put your hands up
Civilians: 🕺 🕺
"Hey chill mate im just a ci-" _No full auto in building!_
Npc: 🤳
Me: "FLASHBANG"
The mag: 0
Why Void?
Why.......
Every mini update they give just makes me want to hit my head against the wall violently
Because it's not an update? Or making our lives harder? 🤣
@@BoomerChris it hasn’t came out yet has it?
@@dr.bigguy9292 no and no idea when 😥
@@BoomerChris Void has this need to add in new animations while the previous animations are buggy as hell.
New mechanics or stuff like the coffee machine that really dont fix the core issues.
@@kissaninja9700 a lot of fixes should be in this update too
Also Ready or Not players: Kills every npc on the map.
"Pulling out my ID as fast as I can because the officer is busy 😊"
For a super realistic game focused on actually showing off what the police and SWAT have to go through in some cases, this is an amazing showcase of making people realize the split second reactions and thoughts you need to have as a officer to make a call between hostile and civilian.
this cop life , watch body cam of Real life police, they deal with so much stress and unpreditable situations, you cant go shootout mode in this game , this is not a cs go or overwatch.
Absolutely, the only problem with the game pre update is the suspect AI would draw a gun and shoot you dead in milliseconds so you'd have to act fast, may well be fixed in the update 🤞
I dropped a civvie cuz I saw the flash of their phone today. First time I've seen that mechanic and ill tell ya, it WORKS.
The person: I am gonna give you a 1 time deal! *reaches for a trip to Disney land*
The person holding the gun: HES REACHING FOR SOMETHING
Me yelling “IM STRAPPED” and showing my seatbelt really fast to the officer that pulled me over so he can know I’m safe
:Maam what are you doing?
;Oh just recording a video for my tikt-
:This is fox, suspect killed.
This isn't rare. Shit happens every mission I play
Reaching for the id gives me. *me telling the police*meme vibes 😂
I am imagining myself as a hostage in a situation like that. I can't think of a SINGLE FUCKING REASON to pull put my phone and take pictures of the swat team pointing their guns at me with the flash of camera on ayylmao
I know it's hard to imagine but they're stupid people like that but more likely they're just going to get confrontational
makes me wonder if youd get negative points for killing them cuz irl youd be justified in doing so i think
you lose points if you kill a civi or kill a sunndering suspect or just kill all of the suspects. these are all the ways you can loose points in RON
I hope they don't deduct points cause that'll be stupid
@@BoomerChris yeah maybe have a system for if theyre able to have it out in clear view before you can put them down deduct points for shooting them after but like if you get em as soon as they reach dont deduct but i think that could be a finnicky system to get right
Yea I feel like we're going to have to hold our fire until we see a gun which could be deadly xD
@@BoomerChris Irl swat officers are trained to have fast reactiont timnes, especially for things like this. So I guess just implement that into how you play too.
I swear the police officer especially... Who in his right mind with proper training and experience with such situations is like yeah reaching for my ID unasked is the best way
Reminds me of those traffic stop memes lmao. "Let me help you officer by pulling my wallet as fast as I can."
I've seen civis getting shot because of pulling out their phones... 😅
In a game like ready or not where it's dark and you can't see what's in there hand, and an AI will one tap you in 0.5 sec, it's gunna happen
Thou what happened is very unfortunate as he lost his life, what civis need to understand is that being in that situation is also very stressful for the police. If the Police tell u to put ur hands up and get down you must follow right away or risk getting shot. The police will automatically search for ur identification, and you can communicate with them while doing so.
If I saw an civi with their phones out recording me I won't warn or tell them to get down on the ground but give them a hot warm touch of god.
Make sure to tell them that the help is here so they can relax
Officer: "I'm a friendly! I- I have my ID ri-"
*My .44 flying towards their prefrontal cortex:*
This makes me realize that, hypothetically, it would be safer to reach for your identification with the side that you have it turned towards the officer. Like, both animations shown have their items on their right side and have their left side towards the officer. Meaning it would probably be more likely for an officer to think they are reaching for a weapon.
I’m sorry but I’ve been almost killed by people grabbing knives and pistols as I try to cuff them. That I’m just gonna instinctively put half a mag in their chest to forego that risk.
I mean now we kinda don’t have to do that anymore because Adam update helps with the instant aimbot. Still a 50/50 for me on if I wait for the “phone”.
Had my first one lastnight, they do move very slow as they reach for the phone so helps identify what they're reaching for
2. so is there going to be police officers in some levels of the game?
Looks that way, or some kind of security?
Paul Blart Mall Cop xD
@@BoomerChris Paul Blart 3: Paul gets turned into a fine red mist while reaching for his badge
@@nickkonkle541 🤣🤣🤣
No, that guy is supposed to be a undercover cop, the model is likely to be a placeholder
"TOC this is entry team, one in custody."
TOC: In sheer terror after seeing 5 camera angels of the whole team magdumping a civ with every caliber after pulling out a funny little rectangle.
Bro got shell-shocked by an attic ☠️
Wait, do SWAT Teams really have to cuff police officers that were already on the scene and present them with their ID?
From what I've heard it will be an undercover cop in one of the maps, chances are they'd still detain them until the scene is clear and can verify who they are 🤷🏼♂️
They want 50 bucks for a game that should be like 20 bucks and it barely works. Also is making paid dlc before a massive q.o.l. update? Cash grab
It is a lot of game for the money, sure I agree it still needs some work but not poor value for money
Ok, but like shooting would hold up so well on court, theyre actuvely quickly pulling out something hidden from view
The way they hold em is the best part
Last night I was in a mission, and a civilian started taking pictures of me. But mid flash a hostile opened a door and nearly killed me. Luckily I killed him and closed the door. After I restrained the civilian me and my team beat him up by muzzle ramming him. I don't care if we got points taken away for unauthorized force
If you can’t handle the idea of a citizen recording you don’t be a cop😂
No its because you might have to neutralize the person because they could be reaching for a gun, in which case they will get shot. If you were being held at gunpoint being ordered, and you reach for your phone, they _CAN_ assume that you are reaching for a gun and they _WILL_ fire at you.
If I see a flash I'm pulling out the flashbang
honestly its easy to tell when theyre grabbing id than a gun, civilians will fish around for it, hostiles will draw quick, as long as youre trained on them you can tell
She just had to make an update, that yes shes still in the building that's currently being held up, but also that she is ok specifically to her family at this exact moment in time!
While being currently given instructions or should be waiting for them by the extra, nice, super, strong, swat guys; She also 600% hopes the flash dose not distract the good guys or attract bad guys in any way! Because she 100% cares about everyone and her current situation
ITSTHEPERFECTPLAN
🤣🤣
1. why there is going to be animation where a civi will pull out there phone and start takeing photes of us.
Yea I guess some people are dumb enough to reach for their phone when a swat team are pointing guns at them 🤣
@@BoomerChris yep 😂🤣😂🤣
You'd honestly be surprised on the dumb stuff people would do in crazy situations.
Girl: Please don't shoot! "Grabs phone to takes pictures and have the flash on"
it happened to me once, luckily i knew about it and didnt fire. my tip is just see what theyre grabbing before firing, you can never be too sure
this will get political haha
Funny things
If she pulls that phone in the dark I'm not responsible for my actions 🤣