Who *REALLY* Killed Osama Bin Laden? Truth About 'Red' Explained
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- Who really killed Osama bin Laden? David Hookstead breaks down all the different stories and versions of the raid that led to bin Laden's death, and discusses the mysterious SEAL Team 6 operator known as Red.
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Clarification: The names I mention as who people think are Red isn't me saying I know they were there. They've never claimed that publicly to my knowledge. It's simply me noting what many have alleged on Reddit and online. Shipley, I believe, had just gotten to ST6 at the time of the raid.
O’Neil drew the short straw. He’s still a hero that was a badass on Seal Team 6 no matter the entire truth. Stumpf, a hero and role model. A man’s whose opinion I trust. Way to go Red and crew!! What happened to the crew of the helicopter that crashed on the raid and what did they do during the raid?
You denied shipleys involvement in the raid but never denied west and rapier and only said they weren’t the shooter 😮. I knew rapier was there! The way he acted when Andy asked about it was very telling. Crazy how he did a decent amount of podcasts but never mentioned it once. Guys legit
You shouldn’t have even said anything about rapier or west man. These videos involving bin laden/Rob always get a ton of views and even mentioning their names at all is now gonna cause controversy
Shipley got to red in 09, the raid was 2 years later
They aren't interested in disclosing "who". Keeping the water muddy keeps the bad guys guessing. Not smart to try and push forward on the subject.. Your "get Rob and Bissonett" in a room idea was not a thoughtful suggestion. If they want it to come out 20 - 30 yrs from now when they are old n gray .. That is their choice.
The killer is obviously Charlie Sheen. Did you not see the Navy SEAL movie? That dude was a bad mofo.
Nope. He was in Africa harvesting tiger's blood in May of 2011.
@@poebutcheddar Maybe there was a zoo in Afghanistan. Even think of that hot shot?
Nope.Thế killer is a Kruger super soldier CIA assassian who has used the name Charlie Sheen while working in Yemen.He has however worked as a stuntman on the Seal Team tv series twice ánd some ỏther stuff including the movie Guardian.Ironically he was an actual rescue diver on Deepwater Horizon.Super soldier security guards once had to hold him back during an altercation with Jeremy Piven on the set of Entourage as Jeremy had no idea he was talking to an actual veteran of the Battle of Mogadishu.Jeremy did however sincerely âpologize afterwards thanking him and expressing what an hỏnor it was to meet him and film Blackhawk Down in which he responded "gotcha,hey you don't have any blow do you?"He also helped locate Saddam Hussein and was the one who actually hưng him.Oh he's also the one who located and shot Muammar Gaddafi.
I am Spartacus
Lmao. That movie literally made me want to join the Navy.
Col.Musturd in the library with a candlestick……
Very underappreciated comment
Excellent comment!!
Im only sure of one thing. If my duck hunting friends were in that raid…..we would still be arguing over who made the shot……
ha ha lol ! . . . sounds like a scene from Elmer and Daffy.
Truth!!! As bad as killing a duck with jewelry.
I think Rob was chosen as the “messenger” with the approved narrative.
Your so right...I hate that guy....Judas of the worst kind.....the big secret and why most of red squadron died on extortion 17 is nobody killed bin laden,he was hiding in plain sight....Barack Obama,Osama bin laden......same guy
That’s a possibility
Chosen by who…admin? One might surmise that the whole team should have been on board that narrative
Seals don't send messengers.
@@rayl3329the government does, and seals work for the government, soooo……
Everybody within the Charlie Sheen community knows that "Red" is and will always be Chuck Norris and he went in to that raid bare hand
The helicopter crashed because of the force Chuck Norris generated jumping out.
@ChucksSEADnDEAD agreed.. and when they were leaving, he threw the downed chopper on his shoulder and towed it back to base and then it blew itself up for disappointing the Chuck..
Osama shot himself,,twice, because he thought it would only be THE NORRIS that had the balls go come for him..😂😂
You can't dismiss the Steven Seagal contribution to unarmed combat with international villains
The boogie man looks under his bed for chuck norris.
I’m 60 years old and have no direct knowledge of what happened, and I don’t really care. DEVGRU went in and conducted the mission, they accomplished the mission and they all got out safely. Rob and Matt, they tell different stories and only the 4 that were in that room know as absolute fact. I’m just glad they, along with Delta, are out there and are on America’s side. They are all heroes whether you personally like them or not, it’s easy to judge from afar, but in the heat of battle and the chaos that comes with it, 4 guys saw it from 4 perspectives and they know only what they saw. I thank them all for their valor and their service!
You can't have 4 different perspectives, especially with tier 1 operators who process information in a split second. They all know exactly who killed ubl. The Obama administration put out a narrative that ubl was going for a gun. No he wasn't. I believe Mark Owens account on how it happened. Who killed him he never revealed. I don't really care, but how it happened needed to be told.
AIRBORNE
Allegedly under 0bummer
@@MichaelEhlineI’m shocked people still believe this story. It’s as real as the Jessica lynch rescue story….
We have a lot of conflicting stories here , first long time ago in SAfrica Madeline Alwright Secretary State said related to OBL we got it , nobody asked more questions then president of Iran said OBL died yrs ago , after the OPST6 , After that the gov said 1 seal commit suicide in Afghanistan, another one died in a parachute accident , after that extortion 13 when more guys from that group died 9--10 won't remember now , other said the guy that they killed was a double fat n right handle OBL was left handle, When they landed on the ship with the body some people on the ship said they never see carrying a dead body , The sad part is that we never gonna know what the hell happened, the gov is an expert in telling lies n cover up , like Jessica linch, 911 ,GUTKVietnam , etcetc
IT WAS ME
Absolutely convincing.
🤣🤣🤣
I KNEW IT!
YEAHYEAH, ME TOO !!!
The truth never changes, so this should give you a pretty strong indication that someone is lying. Most probably O’Neil.
Between this and Logan Melgar the Seals come off like a bunch of prima donnas.
Special forces poster boys, and rock stars we know of them coz thats how they want it. I can think of two sets of spec ops that would of taken him out so quitely, we'd be speculating as to weather or not bin laden was evan dead. Be the grey man well they're not sticking to that.
@@marksanderson-md7vh
RRD, hardly anyone even knows those guy's exist much less what they do, there's so little information about them and I've only ever come across one interview with someone that was RRD.
When the Rangers went in to rescue Marcus Luttrell, an RRD team had already been there and gone, not only that they killed the insurgents that ambushed his team and set a trap and killed their reinforcements that were coming to their aid, they're like ghosts.
One of the Rangers that was on the team that picked up Luttrell was being interviewed on a channel like this, when he was ask if he knew anything about the RRD team that'd gone in there he said "Who knows about those guy's, they just come and go and you'd have no clue they were even there, I really couldn't tell you anything about that".
Yeah you don't hear this shit from Delta or Mac-V back in the day.
Former Army SF guy here. That’s funny as shit bro 😂
Diving for that movie and book deal.
As an ex military guy myself, I can tell you that the military covers up shit all the time! There are many reasons they do this. For example, if mistakes are made, they can cover that up. If they want to create a diversion, there will be a cover up. If they want to protect a person, team, or individual, they will cover shit up. Now I must say, before I go further, I am in no way attached or affiliated with an SF groups. Many years ago, I was attached to an SBU unit. I will leave it at that. What I BELIEVE to be happening here is that "red" was protected as he stayed in the teams well after the incident. There is no way he could have his name go public and stay in the teams. Next, Rob got out right after. Rob got out in '12. Next, due to the profile of this, someone had to take credit. The public would not just let it go without having "someone" to hold up high. I do NOT believe it to be stolen valor as some have suggested. Everyone on those teams know EXACTLY what happened. If Rob was actually stealing VALOR, don't you think for a moment that he would be discredited almost immediately???? The government itself gives credit to team 6 and to ROB. Why??? Wouldn't they either discredit Rob or at least say "no comment"??? Guys, in my opinion, this is not about discrediting ROB, it's about covering for someone else ,"red", who does not wish to be identified!
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DJ Shipley stated in one of his videos that "red" was not even an individual, ANY individual, though a name given to the first man in the stack. He stated that a few times in his discussion. If "red" happened to have had red hair, a red beard, the nickname "Red," etc., according to Shipley, that would have just been a coincidence, as red referred to the #1 stack position, NOT the individual.
Continued Success🍻
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Ironically Rob Oniel has red hair lol
Not exactly sure how the seals do this but tactically each person on the team either has a nickname or is given one for the op. IE, I maybe Red on this op but I may have been spanky on the last because I never got a nickname that stuck but this is typically new guys until you get a nickname that everyone agrees to that fits you. Most guys don't get a say in their name, otherwise everyone would choose Reaper or Slayer lol. The reality is Red probably is a sanctified nickname because in a lot of interviews guys have talked about Red as if it is his and has been his nickname. DJ was probably trying to obfuscate the truth of Reds name because he's still active which is what should be done. Tactically it doesn't make sense that any first man in the stack is called Red because point man can change as the evolution of entry room by room changes as the train evolves a new point man throughout this evolution as you the point man engages he follows his shots into a room where the number 4 man may now continue the train and become point man to keep moving. You don't get stopped at one room. This would create confusion on the radio "is red Dan or Mike right now?" No Red is Red, Dano is Dano, Spanky is Tommy the new guy that got caught making shower babies on his first day😂.
@@matthewravo125lol, on one deployment, to pick our call signs, we all did an online survey to determine which cartoon character we matched up with best, and because of my Italian ancestry, and bad temper, I was Pesto the pissed off pigeon from anamaniacs!
Who’s Shipley? Was he part of that crew? Shipley said…..who cares? Blowhards & insecure immature boys.
I get your point, but I don't trust anything DJ Shipley has to say. Dude has a host of issues and proven liar.
It is ridiculous how this has unfolded. All of the DEVGRU operators who participated in this raid are heroes. Why it had to get to this point is absolutely embarrassing.
There is a really good reason why it's come to this. But nobody really wants to accept that.
You have Rob O'Neill writing books going on TV giving speeches saying he was the guy.
You have Rob O'Neill writing books going on TV giving speeches saying he was the guy.
From the outside looking in, it's become super comical lol.
Rob has made MILLIONS off of this story...MILLIONS... it's fucked up..period
Shaggy - it wasn't me
he was a Marine tho lol
I've watched all his interviews, and now he's settled down to one main version of events. But before, every time he gave an interview, there were wide differences between each one. And now, O'Neil has been labeled persona non grata, not allowed to attend reunions and other team events. That says everything you need to know about O'Neil's version of events. When you get shunned and ostracized by your former teammates, that's the most damning evidence against you that can be. It's taking credit for something you didn't do, it's along the same lines but not as bad as the stolen valor douchebag.
You shouldn't disclose that you know someones real name if they don't want to be identified. You should've just only called him "Red" and never made it known you know his real name.
Yea, he probably shouldn't have.
This is well known information about " Red" . It was already out there. Been talked about several times
HE DOESN’T KNOW SHIT!!!!
@@charlescross7868
HE CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!
He never gave reds real name!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You obviously never listened to this. My god, he even said he wouldn't ever say his. You never listened. Numbnut.
He was dead long before. Nobody killed him.
Yep.
two folks still on the short bus
What do you mean
@@MarioHernandez-bn6pm what do YOU mean ?
Tora bora raid possibly
the antihero podcast has been saying the same as this for a while too, and they went into a lot of detail comparing stories...very good watch
Yup. He was 4th through the door, shot a dead body in the face.
Rob’s basically a good talker
Fast and nervous
He sticks to very basic script and doesn't like to deviate... Like, how did Amal get popped in the leg?
@@UFC_Buffalo Where is the Amal narrative that matches his statement?
It looks like he’s been seriously coached and was agreed to be picked as the main character.
Burial at sea?? What?!?!?
@@roundrock63
Swimming with the fishes🐟 🐠, or maybe he’s in a freezer in area fitty one.
Where are all your interviews ? i dont see them on this channel
Let’s get Red and Rob to have a sit down!!!
YES YES YES
If we can work out who Red is. And that’s a very big IF.
Wouldn’t mind having Rob O’Neil and Matt Bissonette sit down in a room together though.
@@matthewcoates756people know who he is he just doesn’t care.
@@Slowsilvnah
Im old enough to remember the news announcement of binladens death in 2005 or earlier it was immediately shut down literally went of air for a few seconds so i dont think any of these guys killed him
Telling me there was 3 gingers on the raid? Cmon
Why do you think they called it Red Squadron?
Right? What are the odds 😂
@@strawdawgs78Never even considered it. 😂
Red, is definitely a leader, he's wooly and bully, Rob is definitely a team guy and he's obviously Irish, but I never met Matt Bissonette, he's a legitimate DEVGRU operator, I've just personally not met him.
Best comment of all time! Thanks man.
90 percent of all seals you hear from acknowledge Rob O’Neil dirt napped him. Why do people who’ve never lived a day of combat, keep bringing this crap up.
Does Rob have conscience?
@@ronhoffman7941 would it effect you conscience if you split the face of the number 1 terrorist in the world? That’s probably a stupid question to ask you, of course YOU. Would!
Because most of the world's SF's don't gab about what they do...
Do an episode on what operators like "Red" do after leaving the teams but still being involved in that line of work.
Is it private military like dale comstock did?
A lot become consultants for various industries.
This guy is absolute full on shit !! The world needs to hear this set straight !! Stand up and tell the truth!!!!
From what I heard, Chuck Norris is actually the guy named Code Name Red and was the one who actually shot him.
The entire Red Squadron had to be disbanded after the raid, due to the issues the raid started between the Operators.
It's like "Dallas" all over again.
Wow, that reference takes me back. Kudos
Robs wakes up in the shower...
Kidney disease killed him. No outlet for dialisys in his cave.
The truth is obviously noone has any intentions of ever telling the truth.
Sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction.
@@Drop_off_on_the_right Strange beyond imagination.
Kind of hard to tell the truth when they're all complicit in a lie.
Thank God, people get it. I saw thru this farce on day one. I hadn’t even woke up to all the lies about the gwot yet, but this one just stank way too bad.
@@onewarriornation602 Bingo.If the truth came out it would cause a Domino effect unlike anything you could possibly imagine but it could possibly save the world and they're definitely not about to let anyone get in the way of their New World Order.Looks to me like ole boy is possibly being set up for the next book deal.
Thanks for clearing up all the confusion and missing timeline points. I know a guy who was with two guys, who talked to a Reporter and they all more or less agree with some, if not all, but definitely not most of the facts surrounding the initial shooter that killed Osama Bin Laden. Appreciate your efforts to provide clarity. The last person I would take as most informed is a Reporter that was neither there nor experienced with this level of Special Ops. Most important thing is it was “Red, White & Blue!”
Listen to Rob on Shawn Ray.. he said and I quote “ I know bin laden is dead, I’ve seen photos”
But for 3 hours before he said he shot him 3 times in the head .. it’s so weird
I believe the third guy in the stack he’s referring to is Keith Walawender. Matt Cubbler I think is the guy who broke that detail. Brent Tucker has confirmed that as the stack order
Tucker wasn't there. I don't believe his blowhard bullshit at all.
Keith Walawender ✔️
As far as I'm aware from stuff out there that's the truth. If you read NO EASY DAY Keith's alias is "Walt". He has a Silver Star like everyone else on the raid and apparently has a back injury from a helicopter crash. He was in the same copter as Bissonnette (Prince 51), which crashed at the compound. Like I said Matt Cubbler is the guy who threw his name in the stack order. Brent Tucker(former SFOD-D) has confirmed the stack order as RED, BISS, KEITH, O'NEILL. What's interesting about this is Keith Walawender was actually a candidate for a while of who RED might be because Keith is particularly short and RED is known to have a "Unique build". So he stood out as an obvious choice. But David's claim it has to do with the Red Beard coupled with details about the stack have completely tossed Walawender out of the running. @@KevinWood44
@@KevinWood44 Absolutely true
so keith is red?
Sick of this bullshit.
Bill was on stumpf pod and asked him if he wanted to talk about the raid ane he said no
Rapier?
Andy Stumpf, is a bad proliferator of misinformation, he's been there, I know this! He's a talking type guy, so I don't put much into his narratives of how DEVGRU exists these days, he's retired, I'm retired, I'm was in just a few years before Andy got there to Green Team, solid acceptance across the board from us! He's kinda a shit talker these days, but so am I, I suspect! Lol
@@lancecasteel4366So you are a retired Navy SEAL?
@scottlosey4978 that would be weird if a retired Seal, who was supposedly there before Stumpf a long time ago, used "lol".
@@JohnQuickWick That individual has left comments elsewhere claiming to be a SEAL. I wonder if he would pass the Don Shipley verification protocal?
It was one of those 3 guys, im guessing it wasn't Rob O'Neil but thats wild he talked to u and lied straight to ur face
It was none of those three guys. Bin Laden was long dead before that Hollywood production was put into play.
Would have been better if we didn’t know, whatever happened to silent warriors!
Question...from which branch of the Military did they use to gather their information prior for this "big mission?"
Individuals inside the CIA were part of the entity that located UBL & laid out the physical details of the compound itself.Unless you're referring to which branch actually done the planning stage of the OP?? The Armys Night Stalker group likely planned the helo portion of the OP.So the Navy- SEALs & Army- Aviation.
Do we know the names of the 23 seals that were involved? If so where do we find that information? I googled it for like 10 mins and got no where.
No.
Thankfully you didn't...
I don’t understand how the CIA intel officer knew exactly where and who the last line of defense would be. She didn’t know what the inside of building looked like or where the stairwell would be but she knew Bin Laden’s son would be last line of defense. 🤔
I mean you would kind of assume his son would probably be the last line of defense. If it was your father youd probably be the last line of defense too. Im just speculating, I understand what you mean though.
What exactly are you insinuating?
It was all fake. UBL died of kidney failure. Do your research
Lol u mean the "cleaning lady" on the CIA payroll who, according to Rob, said: "...if you can ace him, you'll have a shot at the big guy...", a cleaning lady?
I'd imagine the intel officer used intel. Just a guess though
Honestly even if he didn't shoot him, the other guy probably doesn't give a shit and told him to run the story and make some money. These guys don't get paid nearly enough for what they do
Did you use magic to discover if the guy who took out OBL told O'Neil to run with it cuz he just likes O'Neill better than the other guys?
@trugrit7210 I didn't figure anything out nor claim to have. The bottom line is it doesn't even matter, and I bet whoever shot the guy feels the same way. The real question is with what we do know, and there being holes in a story, and a body burried at sea for some odd reason, is the guy even dead.
@seansy5247 it does matter. Truth matters. A guy making millions off a lie matters.
@trugrit7210 I agree with this principle. However this doesn't affect either of us directly and it's not possible to keep everyone accountable.
Noone in Liars Team 6 "shot Bin Laden." Osama Bin Laden died in 2003 of kidney failure. This has been known, confirmed by Delta and 5th Special Forces Group and case closed until Obama and Co decided to concoct this fairytale in order to jerk themselves off.
Marcus luttrell’s story is absolutely the most uncredible account of how red wings went down. During the investigation the military report states that when they rescued him from the village days later, he had all 11 completely full mags that he left with. He never fired a single shot. In an early CBS interview, which is now virtually impossible to find, he admitted that they got hit so hard so fast that he immediately gave up and began to retreat. The list goes on
Seals aren't suppose to brag about their missions and profit from it.
Big question is " why lie "
Money and fame.
@@trugrit7210 perhaps, but I think it's something else. Like it was said, RED is on a CLASSIFIED sec detail. TRUMPS? I would bet on it.
Because of the $$$. Look at the millions made by Chris Kyle and Marcus Lutrell by making up fairytales.
muddy water for potential adversaries
Because that’s what they do…
If UBL had taken 2 to the face in the doorway, he would've dropped in the doorway. The pics show no blood anywhere near the doorway. UBL was not lying at the foot of the bed by the doorway. He was completely inside the room beside the bed, not at the foot of it.
Edit: in which matches O'Neils story
Where did you get this version ? Where does anywhere it say that red the point man shot him twice to the face? You’re getting Rob’s story and the truth confused. Sorry, Rob has been lying to you and you accepted it.
I REALLY respect Rob Oneil...... I JUST wish that when the question was ask - even by the President - 'Who killed OBL" the team would have looked at each other and said " we all did"....!!!!
Hard to completely respect a man that has made millions of dollars off of a lie.
Awesome!! The perfect video on exactly what I wanted to know on how this killing of UBL went down. Also it’s sad to me that there are different versions. I’d like the guys to hash it out. The stories RO @ MB are just too different.
Rob O'Neil obviously been told or asked to take credit
He wouldn't take creidt otherwise
Incorrect. Him taking the credit ruined his career and got him PNG’d from the SEAL community. Nobody in their right mind would ever choose that.
no… no the fuck he was not told to embellish his story or masquerade like he’s been doing…. that’s the fucking problem which is why he got PND’d from the seal community
Clearly they were all instructed to go along with this bullshit fairytale.
No one in devgru liked Rob and his attitude, dudes selfish. Remember him crying about the Navy not giving him his pension when he chose to get out at 17 years when the requirement is 20?
@zachariah97 getting PNGd by DEVGRU doesnt mean much they sre like a sewing circle of angry soccer moms. They didn't like Oneil getting paid and famous. Seem like Haters. Everything else is all hearsay
Rob O'Neill changes his story every time he repeats it
I disagree, he's been quite consistent on what he has said over the years
Ive listened to many of his podcasts and hes been very consustant
No he doesn't
Enjoyed the compilation of stories, but I wish you would have included parts of the video taken inside the house by the Pakistani army/police soon after the raid. Maybe it’s just me, but I think a visual would help a ton here. I wonder why the people interviewing ST6 don’t just pull up that video and let the SEALs narrate through it.
In a business where honesty and integrity count most it would seem both are lacking. Either that or the phrase 'moon landing' comes to mind.
You shouldn’t be putting names out on the internet unless you have personally spoken to these guys
Red did it
Finally, some truth comes out!
@@lm-usmcWgaf. Nothing about that raid was heroic it was just another kill. If he was just THE messenger that was the 2 man that didn’t kill osama WGAFFF. This was an easy raid he’s just telling us the story
"Red" gave Bin Laden end stage kidney failure in 2003? 😂😂
Newspaper: "Two officers from the Special Boat Service could be in line for American military honours for the parts they played in planning the audacious raid on the Al Qaeda leader’s compound in the heart of Pakistan.
Neither the captain nor the major had a “trigger job” in the fight that raged when US Navy Seals stormed Bin Laden’s lair last week but their top secret role has been described as crucial for the success of the mission.
Britain’s SBS officers were involved in the briefings prior to the attack.
A military insider last night said: “One of the things the SBS is renowned for is its specialist signals capabilities and these were used by US forces in the days and weeks leading up to the operation.”
The mysterious RED, the team was named red squadron. I wonder if some of those guys made red up to take the glory away from Rob O'Neil and center it back on the group as a whole.
I find it hard to believe that none of his followers retaliated against Rob
Agreed! How can Rob live so publicly?
John Holmes killed UBL… just sayin’.
Johnny wad??
@@kilakr13 Yes exactly… and the weapon he used was his 11.5”……
Nah George Santos did.
If red was swapped out that operator would be red as well if still the point - or was he now red
Anybody remember the SEAL ethos? Here is a section of it: "My loyalty to Country and Team is beyond reproach. I humbly serve as a guardian to my fellow Americans always ready to defend those who are unable to defend themselves. I do not advertise the nature of my work, nor seek recognition for my actions. I voluntarily accept the inherent hazards of my profession, placing the welfare and security of others before my own" . The SEALs need to return to this core value and stick to it. Because look at this swirling storm of bullshit around O Neil and Luttrell by these guys going public. These operations are classified and/or top secret for a reason. They all need to shut up. If you want the lime light go to Juilliard not BUDs.
So you’re say red is bill.. and bill is red?
The total truth will never be known.
It's already been well known. 😂😂 Bin Laden died of kidney failure in 2003.
Super interesting and trickles of what i had found through research... Can you explain why others in the community are now against Bis but not O'Neil? Is it just because the book wasn't given the security check first?
After the raid, there would have been a debrief, that went into the raid to the Nth degree.
So there are two explanations. One, O’Neil shot the Bin Bag and two, for whatever reason, the actual shooter didn’t want to take ownership and neither did anyone else, except O’Neil 🤷♂️.
Dominiquie Vandenberg a former member of the French foreign legion 2 Rep commando regiment posted on his RUclips channel the picture of Osama Ibn Ladin aka Tim Ossman burial in 2003. Soon after his RUclips channel was removed. And the phone he posted the picture from destroyed. He got the picture from Osama,s friend Ishman a Mujahideen that was Osama,s bodyguard and friend and fought in the Afghanistan war against the Russians. Before he served with Vandenberg in the legion.
It has been well known since 2003 that Osama Bin Laden died of kidney failure. It was confirmed by Delta and USAR 5th Special Forces Group in 2003, who were taken to his burial spot and shown evidence that he had passed. It was even reported on by Fox News in 2003 that Bin Laden was deceased and it was confirmed.
Yet here we are, a group.of Sailors who are not only going along with some bullshit story fabricated by the CIA, they're arguing on who should get the most glory from the lie.
I remember that
there is one s in osman
It’s crazy to me that some people hear the truth, that it’s not Rob, and they don’t think it matters….its called stolen valor!!! Taking credit for something you didn’t do and then making millions of dollars off of that lie! That’s a huge problem and people should care! The truth always matters.
The layout of the compound fit's Rob's story.
I just wanted to see the pictures
I found it odd from the get go that the version of events depicted in the movie Zero Dark Thirty, which were relayed to the writer from the CIA personnel involved, aligned closely with the version of events in Mark Owen's book, but not with the later Rob O'Neill book.
DEVGRU Red Squadron killed UBL. Individual actions are irrelevant. Any Tier 1, 2 or 3 Force could've handled this mission.
No drama like SEAL drama...
That's the difference between seals and the SAS. The SAS wouldn't even be talking about this.
that’s because they are tied by the Official Secrets Act, and you will go to prison for a long time if you break it.
The actions of the SAS would also be secret for 100 years under that act, the US has much short and lenient secrecy laws.
As proved by all of these SEAL podcasters.
Why use Mark Bisonette image with the eyes blackout...when the image is publicly available
I believe that was a Andy stumpf video where he was still anonymous in a way his name was out but his face wasn’t
I'm only at 3:48, and maybe you'll correct this later but you've omitted it at this point: Rob's version is that he was behind the point man, the point man fired 2-3 shots, then they approached and entered the room. Rob has never been able or willing to explain who the point man fired those shots at.
i dont get how he went from man 8 to 2....in a few steps
@@RocksNRuts4did I miss something? Where'd you get 8th from. Even this guy said he was no 4. Supposedly Red got mad at him canoeing his head remember?
@@JohnQuickWick yea he said he was like 8 just watchin....
@RocksNRuts4 he was number 4, that guy claims. Rob said he was 2nd. Only God and those guys know the truth.
@@JohnQuickWick ill hav to rewatch, thought he said last guy 8 n sat back n watched cool sht....
I heard that they call him "red" because that's what you call the point man on a stack. Its now his identifier because he wants to remain anonymous so it's the easiest way to describe his exploits to others.
I learned the hard way but he was called red because of the tobacco he liked
I also heard similar that it was related to a REDs tobacco patch he would have on his carrier. But I've seen Shipley with that patch so who knows@@josesaldana5594
I don't know about that if it's like how we operate in the u.k usually colours are used to identify sides of a building like say for example the front of the building would be blue and the back could be black etc
The point man is just called point man or #1 man. Knowing the military like I do, the nickname probably comes from something totally stupid and insignificant.
The only thing is, that during the clearing of a structure the point man changes multiple times. They stack up and enter and once that room is cleared they stack up again and it just depends on where you was at on how the order of the stack goes. It’s not always the same order every time
I just ain’t get past Rob’s account being born for a movie. Down to the cheesy lines and everything. “Your life just changed forever, now get back to work.”
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I really really dislike it that the code for operations like this is that you don’t take credit for anything personally even if your rifle fired the fatal shot. And if any credit is to be given at all to an individual then it is given by that persons team leader. At the very least by another team member.
Humans have a very common characteristic of being arrrogant, prideful, and just full of ourselves in general. We’ve all heard people in our lives who tell us just how great they are and all the great things they have done. And it is all we can do to not turn around and walk away from them. Since the tendency is to talk about ourselves it is really rare to hear someone talk about someone else in a way that gives credit. Especially if not prompted to do so. By a superior of some kind.
So we have the fact that people have worked through situations with their own mind, and they judge themselves based upon their intentions and find favor for themself anywhere they can get it. You subsequently just never put a great degree of weight when someone tells you a story about themself. If you add the fact that a person has an interest in telling this story like financial gain, then you are looking at something that is most usually just untrue and making it much more likely to be untrue.
It is disappointing to hear that a member of Seal Team Six decided to dust his buddies and put out a narrative that he himself pulled the trigger that brought down the most notorious target in the world. It is further much more disappointing that there’s more than one trying to take credit for it.
I listened intently to the first guys story with the idea that it was manufactured and I wasn’t let down. In one part of the story he mentioned that he had taken the shot and it was all done and he sat there almost losing touch with reality for some reason. He claimed he had to ask another guy a question regarding the mission because he just forgot or something. And his buddy made some ridiculous comment about him just killing the #1 most wanted and then some generic phrase like “drive on” or “just another day at the office,” or some crap like that.
I’ve been in combat as an infantryman and spent 27 month in Iraq in active. Combat on the West side of Baghdad. In fact, I was on my second tour of duty at MND-B headquarters when Saddam was executed. Never seen an infantryman lose it in a daydream or whatever like you see in the movies and that was just a regular line unit. This dude claimed he just didn’t remember the mission the moment after he shot Bin Laden.
It’s just so highly unlikely and stupid that Nobody has any business believing him at all. He should know better than to come on the news doing this. Then to not only have none of his team members corroborate his version of events, they actually tell conflicting versions of the same story. O’Neill turns out to just be the first guy of several to break the unwritten rule of taking credit for stuff that was accomplished as a team. It’s actually disgraceful. I have no idea why people have allowed him to go so far down this road. It drags the whole reputation of Seal Team Six through the mud. Might be Delta 6 though I don’t remember. I am commenting as I am watching the video and I haven’t thought of this case in several years now.
Brother you basically just said dudes working for the CIA as a ground branch operator but I’m honestly just speculating lol.
Your actually pretty close. You're on the right trail if you want to do your own speculation and digging
First thing I thought.
@@laughattack1204stop pretending to be in DEV.
@@laughattack1204 you can tell he realllly wanted to give it away 😂😂😂 I hope i find out im right one day
My sentiments exactly. Ground Branch SAC in ME
I see Rob getting sued by all these speaking gigs he got paid buckets of money for pitching a false narrative. 😮
I read the books by O’Neill, Bissonnette, and Mark Bowden. Combined with the Seymour Hersh story AND the Extortion 17 rumors which is mentioned in Adam Brown’s book. It almost feels like we’re all being put together, look over here type shit.
Seymour Hersh is not even remotely credible
@@lukeamato423bullshit he's not lmao need a list of the stuff he's been right about or you think you can manage finding it on your own?
What's Adam Brown's book called? I'd like to know about extortion 17. There were known SA7s in the area and those men were set up by the US government.
@@natesmith2408 The title of the book is “Fearless” and it will cut you deep. I cannot remember crying that hard in my life. Regardless of where a person lands politically here, the American soldier is held in a holy place in each one of us. They are lions and deserve honest people in Washington to have their back for eternity and that’s not what we have now.
Why have the photos never been released? Why did they supposedly dump his body in the ocean?
Rob was not the shooter...the community knows.
"the community knows" the community: larpers
There was no shooter, Obama had already been dead for 8 years before this fake mission was put out by the CIA and Obama Administration.
Trump told me he was the point man in the Bin Laden raid
I thought B. Hussein oBama parachuted in by himself, he and his buddy Osama shouted aloha snackbar back and forth until Barry yelled "this is Sparta!" and tore off his head with his bare hands.
@@MarkJ1776that was dumb considering Obama was watching it live at the WH you twit.😅😅😅
Respect to all service members, Rob always spoke like he was telling a "story" rather than the truth. Something always felt off about him, in my BS opinion.
So you don't want someone to take this out of context and cherry pick snippets to paint you in a bad light ? And you uploaded it to the internet ? I like it already lol
It could be Jeff Nichols!
He died 2001 in a cave. So who they pretending to kill I don't know.
I believe it was 2003, and was confirmed by Special Forces but you are correct, Bin Laden was already long dead before this entire CIA fairytale was concocted.
I believe it was 2003, but you are correct, Bin Laden died of kidney failure YEARS before this CIA production was dreamt up. He was confirmed as deceased by Delta Operators as well as 5th SFG and their assets.
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I truly believe that
From tuberculosis.
I find this whole thing ridiculous, they where a team going in and one going out . They all needed each other, who picked up and got the last shot doesn’t matter at all .
This reminds me of the book 22 of the Iliad. “The death of hector” after Achilles slays him by driving his spear through the fleshy part of the neck inside the collarbone. Hector doesn’t immediately die but tries to negotiate with Achilles to send his body home and not let the dogs eat him at the ships of the acheans. Achilles wasn’t having it and when he passed away, all of the acheans came up to hector and gave him a fresh wound, saying “it is much easier to handle hector now than when he was flinging fire on our ships!”
It was Rob Zombie
If Rob didn't do it, then what is perplexing to me is the number of other prominent SEALs who accommodate his story, while outcasting other members who even slightly embellished their resume.
If he went out of line and split the wig afterwards, then why is he NOT png in the community, period?
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Make up your mind after watching Brent break it down on his pod
Rob is png in his community
@@imLeyt0n this is correct
You've made an incredibley important and valid point.You will now be placed on a watchlist for making sênse.
@@imLeyt0ncopy. Is he the one that had book sale profits confiscated for not having it reviewed?
They will never tell you the truth. The only ones who know are the 6 that were storming the house itself. Then they tore the house itself down. You never shoot someone of that stature in the face to begin with. No one has been told the full, true story. Ever. And obviously that’s by design.
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Now, who the f%$# is red!??
Einige wissen es und freuen sich, dass es andere nicht wissen.
@he6916 Red himself is happy, he's not really the podcast bulsh*tter type anyways.
Red is Sam Hyde
😅this comment was more entertaining than the actual video
He’s telling people to comment on who people think is the shooter whilst telling people to stop spreading rumors🙄
I thought I was the only one who noticed that.
What part of WA i you live? I’m outside oly.
It was Jocko 🤯
What if it was somehow Goggins, brings a whole new meaning to "YOU DON'T KNOW ME SON!"
When you see them green eyes, its already way too late👹🇺🇸
Those
@@AllShallBeRevealed1776 thank you sir
That's if you even see them lol
Question: If multiple people shoot a single target, at what point would the target be considered as "dead"? Is there a battlefield-quantifiable measure such as heart beat, breathing, or anything of that nature?